Below is my column in the Hill on the withdrawal of President Joe Biden from the 2024 election. After weeks of Democrats and the media raising the alarm of his mental capacity, Biden finally gave up his public refusal to step aside. Harris will now be the nominee through succession by defenestration, or being tossed from a window. Yet, there remains a lingering question of Biden’s capacity to serve for another six months as president.
Here is the column:
President Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw as the Democratic Party’s nominee solved an immediate problem for his party. Biden has plummeted in the polls as the vast majority of voters concluded that he is too diminished by age to serve another term. Yet, it has now created several new problems, including the obvious problem of a president who is viewed as incapable of running for an office that he continues to hold.
The Democratic Party essentially created its own political version of the 25th Amendment in forcing Biden off the ticket. This decision was about as voluntary as leaving a building by way of a window on the 46th floor. That is particularly the case when you are thrown out of the window by your closest friends.
The unseemly image of succession by defenestration will soon be whitewashed by a media that will praise Biden after weeks of declaring him incompetent and enfeebled.
That, however, leaves the lingering question after the fall. How can Biden remain in office when he is incapable of running for the office?
Biden is notably vague about the reason for his withdrawal after maintaining for days that he will be the party’s nominee. He simply says that it is in the best interests of the country.
The Democratic establishment has two equally unappealing options.
First, it could argue that Biden was withdrawing out of recognition that he is no longer politically viable. But that makes a mockery out of the democratic process. Millions of people went through the primary elections to select him as their nominee. Now he would be set aside and replaced by a vote of the party establishment like a shift in the Russian politburo.
Second, it could admit that Biden was, as stated for weeks in the media and by figures like Special Counsel Robert Hur, greatly diminished both mentally and physically. However, that makes this withdrawal an admission that could trigger a fight under the 25th Amendment.
The development could create a new constitutional controversy. The 25th Amendment was written with largely physical disabilities in mind. If a president is comatose, the incapacity is obvious and Section 4 allows the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet to sign a declaration to Congress that a president is incapable of holding office.
However, Harris is eager to avoid the image of Brutus in the dispatching of the president. To support such a declaration would risk Biden proclaiming “Et tu, Kamala?” to the nation. The key to succession by defenestration is not to be seen as the hand that pushes the president out the window. Politics follows the same rules as the mafia for capo di tutti i capi: Kill a don, never be a don. While sometimes honored in the breach in the mob, it is hardly an auspicious path for a politician.
There is, however, another intriguing possibility.
Section 4 provides that a president’s fitness can be put before Congress when the “Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or such other body as Congress may by law provide.”
Previously Democrats have cited that language to suggest that they could create their own body to force former President Donald Trump out of office. Indeed, Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-Md.) sponsored legislation called the Oversight Commission on Presidential Capacity Act to create a commission empowered to examine a president to Congress on the president’s capacity. It would circumvent the necessity of getting Harris to be the primary hand that dispatched a president.
The question is whether Congress will now make this decision to warrant an investigation or even a Raskin-like bill.
This is different than President Lyndon Johnson’s decision on March 31, 1968, that “I shall not seek, and I will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president.”
That was before the end of the primaries. In this case, Biden won a primary in which the Democratic Party obstructed anyone who would challenge him and barred any debate.
Millions voted for him, and tens of millions of dollars were contributed to his campaign. He is now withdrawing weeks before accepting the nomination. That unprecedented decision alone would warrant a House investigation into Biden’s continuing capacity to serve in an office that he no longer believes he can run to occupy after January 2025.
Before this decision, a special counsel cited President Biden’s diminished faculties as a reason not to indict him for unlawfully retaining and handling classified material. Now, the president is effectively saying that, in addition to being allegedly too diminished to be prosecuted, he is too diminished to run for the office that he currently holds.
The question is whether Biden has ended the fight to retain his nomination only to trigger a fight to retain his office.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage” (Simon & Schuster).
“Mobile Data Reveals Someone Who Regularly Visited Thomas Crooks’ Home and Work Also Visited a Building in Washington DC Near FBI Office”
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“FBI has disclosed to Congress that the shooter used three encrypted communications apps ostensibly tied to Germany, Brussels and New Zealand and also possessed an arrest photo of an earlier Michigan school shooter, Just the News has confirmed.” JTN
Why is Gretchen Whitmer the only woman on the possible VP list?
Abrams? Hillary? I’m sure there are plenty of incompetent women they can choose from in need of a job
What makes you think Gretchen Whitmer is a woman?
You really shouldn’t spread rumors like that. It’s not PC.
What is a woman?
It’s so nice to see you giving racist misogynistic arguments. You must be taking your talking points strait from trump the felon. That may not be a winning proposition, but hey, you be you.
WTF are you even talking about?
A cowardly Anonymous Soviet Democrat: It’s so nice to see you giving racist misogynistic arguments. You must be taking your talking points strait from trump the felon.
Flexing and pimping for President Daddy-Daughter Inappropriate Sex Showers. Kluxxer Joe Biden, who started his racist career siding with his fellow Kluxxers, saying he didn’t want his children to have to attend Jungle Bunny schools.
Kluxxer Joe Biden – the one who calls his defense secretary “that black guy” and “boy”.
The one who said that in his entire 40 years in Washington DC, he never met a single black American who was clean, presentable, and well spoken – until he met a mulatto named Barack who renounced his Rich White Privilege to run for political office as a po’ black chil’.
Kluxxer Joe – who told America he would be racist and exclude women of all colors from his VP choice – except the color black.
You channel your comments from The Paroled Felon in the White House, now partnered with the First Felon Gun Criminal Crackhead Son. Biden White House Crime LLC (a limited partnership).
This is why you panty wetting Marxist Useful Idiots only use the username “Anonymous” – you want to continue hiding in Biden’s Basement.
Signed,
Old Airborne Dog
You misspelled ‘straight’.
Before the current crop of Wokesters, there was another group who practised Identity Politics – the Ku Klux Klan! They were Democrats, too!
The political history of the brown colored Birthing Person who was the racist pick of the lifelong racist Bribery Biden: a choice announced beforehand that it would be a traditional Democrat choice made on skin color – black (Mulatto brown/black is close enough) only.
All brown Latino’s were excluded, Asians were excluded, Indians and Native Americans were excluded, Filipinos were excluded. And it goes without saying that any and all white Americans (like the lily-white Biden) were excluded.
When Democrats could no longer use black American slaves on their plantations to pick their cotton, they made a business model shift: they kept black Americans on their new poverty plantations so they could use Identity Politics farming methods to harvest poor black American votes.
And now they have another racist choice of candidate about to be put forward as their nominee, Kamela Harris, now that the lifelong racist they loved, Bribery Biden, can’t keep them in power.
The one who started her journey up the Democrat political ladder by their traditional mixing of politics with sex:
Harris is the product of Northern California politics — a one-party self-perpetuating political corrupt ecosystem that is every bit the equal of any similar one-party big city system anywhere else in the country, with the added feature that the Gay/Lesbian community has always played an outsized role among the various liberal/socialist/communist components of the party. San Francisco is the “Manhattan” of the West Coast.
Harris is infamously known for having emerged from the political pack in San Francisco as married Willie Brown’s fellatio friend. In his 60s at the time, Brown was the long-time leader of the California Assembly, having been first elected in 1964 and serving as Speaker of the Assembly from 1980 to 1995. He represented an urban San Francisco Assembly District for his entire tenure.
The basic outline of Kamala Harris’ political career can be found on her Wiki page — basically accurate for the most part. She born in California but her family moved to Illinois when she was 2. Her mother brought her and her sister back to Berkeley when she was 6, but moved to Montreal, Quebec when she was 12 years old. She attended Howard University in Washington D.C., graduating in 1986.
She then enrolled at Hastings Law School (UC San Francisco), graduating in 1989. Whether she targeted Willy Brown 40 years her senior as being vulnerable to the honey trap of sexual favors in exchange for political opponents, or Willie Brown targeted her as an ambitious woman willing to trade sex with a married man for a start in politics is unknown.
In 1990 she was hired as an entry-level Deputy District Attorney in Alameda County. Four years later Willie Brown — who was still bedding Harris outside of marriage — appointed her to the Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and the California Medical Assistance Commission. The Appeals Board position paid a salary of $97,000 a year — far in excess of what she was making for the Alameda DA. She stayed in that position for only 6 months because the seat she filled had only 7 months left in its term. Her relationship with Willie must have lasted longer than six months, because with one month left in the term, Brown appointed her to the Medical Assistance Commission, a job that paid $72,000 a year, but with a full term of 4 years remaining. This came as Brown was about to be replaced as Speaker, with Republicans having captured a majority of Assembly seats for the first time in decades.
After 3 years as a newby Dep. DA, and four years as a Brown appointee on a medical commission, when her term was about to end she was hired by the San Francisco District Attorney to head up the “Career Criminal Division” of the Office — a rookie prosecutor supervising five experienced prosecutors — when Willie Brown was then the elected mayor of San Francisco. …
For the full history:
https://shipwreckedcrew.substack.com/p/a-primer-on-the-electoral-history
Laura Loomer has another indication that Biden is in very serious medical trouble.
If her instincts are correct, who really released the withdrawal letter and who really endorsed Kamala?
Could it be that the VP endorsed the VP?
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1815453064196960711
Wouldn’t forgery disqualify one from the Presidency? Even today, I mean?
Professor Turley,
You write: “The Democratic Party essentially created its own political version of the 25th Amendment in forcing Biden off the ticket.”
The 25th Amendment, however, is entirely a political process. There is no way to remove a President, who is still alive, unless the VP approves of the President’s removal.
Notably, you failed to cite the actual text of the Amendment to bolster any part of your post. Biden, as you note, did not want to step down. Harris likely agreed not to dethrone him in exchange for his endorsement. Hence, this is a political process like impeachment, not one that requires the President to have a certain standard of mental acuity.
Your fundamentally inaccurate portrayal of the 25th Amendment just spreads misinformation and fuels the Age of Rage about which you purportedly care so deeply. How could you possibly write that the Democratic party “created a political version” of the 25th Amendment?
Turley writes crap, because that’s what he gets paid for. It’s the one thing his readers will believe.
And yet, you’re still here. Sort of like the old joke. The foods terrible and the portions are small.
FishAnus tried this while still refusing to believe his lying eyes:
Turley writes crap, because that’s what he gets paid for.
Meanwhile, your anus is jealous of the amount of shyte that flows from your mouth to your fingers on your cellphone.
Give us the ol’ 2016 “Russia Dossier” election fairy tale FishAnus.
Or perhaps the 2020 “51 Intelligence experts say the Biden Bribery Laptop is merely Russian election disinformation!”
“Your fundamentally inaccurate portrayal of the 25th Amendment just spreads misinformation and fuels the Age of Rage about which you purportedly care so deeply.”
Again, truth. JT has become so hypocritical with his “care” for free speech. I have no doubt he would defend the person who yells in a crowded theater “FIRE” when there is no fire and 100 people die.
trump says give me 111,000 votes, only 11,000. no one will notice. No problem from JT, free peech.
trump hides classified documents in his bathroom as reading material for his foreign guests, JT has no problem, free speech.
trump files fraudulent business documents to hide the payment to a porn star, what crime is that asks JT, I don’t see anything wrong here.
And now, JT is sweating in his britches because Biden said thanks but no thanks and the Demos will now use Demo party rules to select a new nominee.
JT what happened? Is the Fox money that good you want to throw away your reputation just like your buddy Rudi Giulanni and John Eastman?
trump spews hatred, calls for violence and JTs response is I wouldn’t use those words. Biden says he’s is not going to be the Demo nominee and JT goes ballistic about some Constitutonal crisis. You’re better than that JT, grow up.
A cowardly Anonymous Soviet Democrat Birthing Person channeled and sucked so hard he could have compression started a Harley:
trump spews hatred, calls for violence
From the party who’s been calling Trump a nazi (like the Hamas terrorist supporters in the Anti-Semitic Genocidal Socialist Sisterhood) and Vice President Cackle Ho, who celebrated Soviet Democrat Months Of Mostly Peaceful Insurrection, Rioting, Rape, Pillaging, Looting, Arson and Murder with this:
They’re not gonna stop before election day in November, and they’re not gonna stop after election day … They’re not gonna let up, and they should not
This is why you cowardly Birthing Persons never select a username or sign your names, but hide in Biden’s Basement with the username “Anonymous”.
Signed,
Old Airborne Dog
That time CNN showed a live execution
After this debate Tulsi Gabbard forced Kamala Harris to drop out of the 2020 DNC Nomination
Facts:
Kamala Harris was chosen by Biden because of her half-Jamaican (“black”) demographic
Tulsi Gabbard is popular because people admire her character, intellect and eloquence.
I am not sure you know the difference between fact and opinion.
Tulsi considers herself a PoC and I’ve never heard anyone dispute that. Tulsi is so much more intelligent and classy that Kamala. The Dems would have done themselves a world of good to have chosen Tulsi for VP instead of Kamala. If they had done so, they’d be in far better shape today.
Tulsi has too much honor to be a Democrat.
She can think for herself. It’s a disqualifier.
oldmanfromkansas posted: Dems would have done themselves a world of good to have chosen Tulsi for VP instead of Kamala.
Three things:
First, Soviet Democrats and Kluxxer Biden agreed to a party racist choice for Vice President after one of their party’s black racists, Clyborne, saved Biden’s candidacy from Bernie The Commie Sanders in exchange for the VP pick being BLACK. Not COMPETENT.
Racism and intersectional Identity Politics over meritocracy every time.
Second, then Senator Cackle Hoe had already shown the Soviet Democrats that she would sell use of her mouth as a political whore, figuratively and literally, in exchange for another step up the political ladder. Gabbard had shown the opposite.
And third, while many others and myself don’t agree with most of Gabbard’s policies, we knew she would not allow herself to be the Soviet Democrats’ puppet – and that’s one more reason we ended up with Vice President Cackle Hoe.
That is simply not true Estovir. Kamala is very articulate, precise and excels at word salad
The “dictatorship of the proletariat” just voided the “democracy” of the democrat primary voters effectively imposing the 25th Amendment outside of due process.
The “democracy” of the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs), that was “threatened with destruction” by Trump in the restricted-vote republic given to Americans by Ben Franklin et al., has just been usurped and confiscated by the communist Presidium.
The Obama Coup D’etat in America continues unabated:
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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“People on the 7th floor to include Director are fired up about this [Trump] server.”
– Bill Priestap
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The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history. The co-conspirators are:
Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,
Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,
Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,
Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,
Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,
Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,
Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney, Lisa O. Monaco, Fani Willis, Alvin Bragg,
Matthew Colangelo, Merrick Garland, Juan Merchan et al.
Sure, it’s just a ‘faction’, not a regime. You dems keep telling yourselves that. Or get your heads out of 1960 and grow up. Stop voting for this madness, because the person representing the party is just *representing the party*, and in 2024 it is absolutely the corporate party, the ‘man’ that you claim to despise. Not a damn thing will change regarding agenda with Joe, Kamala, Hillary, Michelle, Newsom or whoever. Stop pretending that any of this is organic (it isn’t, you are very much asleep), because your reticence and compliance are quite literally destroying this country. ‘Vote blue no matter who’ sounds like a schoolyard nursery rhyme at this point. WAKE UP. Those of us that actually care about freedom have just about had it with you.
As an independent, I dislike the anti-corporate rhetoric from today’s GOP, which pushes me towards the now more corporate-friendly Democrats. Populism sucks, regardless of which party appeals to it. 10% tariffs on all imports? Yikes. Perhaps I am still stuck in the 90s, but I still support free market capitalism and a foreign policy predicated on the mutual interdependence of the world economy. But folks like me no longer have a political home. What happened?
If all other countries would enact free trade that would be one thing. I think two things are happening. First, American workers sense that the international trade system is rigged against them, and they respond favorably to a candidate that promises to protect them first and foremost over protecting an international system of free trade that they see as unfair. Second, corporations now are different than they were in the 1980s when Reagan promoted supply-side economics and its pro-corporate stance. Now many large corporations seem to care more about a cultural ideological agenda — DEI and ESG — than the bottom line, as strange as that may seem, and this perception comes through loud and clear through their advertising and public statements. The sense is that they are part of the corrupt globalist system. The larger ones also tend to capture the regulatory apparatus to impose greater regulations, which is their defense against their greatest long-term economic threat: small, dynamic, disruptive startups, who cannot absorb the cost of such regulations nearly as easily as the large behemoths can.
Oldman, I agree with you; globalism sometimes creates new problems that must be addressed. Our security depends on a measure of flexibility. Those who live with unbending ideology die by it.
Protectionism and industrial policy are two aspects of Trump/Vance that I dislike. I can understand imposing tariffs to promote fair trade and reciprocity, but a basic tariff across the board makes no sense to me, and will fuel inflation and inefficiency. Picking winners and losers through industrial policy is also a bad idea, distorting the free market, which generally tends to maximise welfare. I think there could be a fight within the Trump administration on these issues
“but a basic tariff across the board makes no sense to me, and will fuel inflation and inefficiency. “
Daniel, I don’t think Trump is looking for a basic across-the-board tariff. It is hard to say, but I believe his rhetoric attempts to change present problems while he is not president. I interpret Trump based on his actions, not his words. Things are becoming more entrenched and have the rest of Biden’s term to play out.
It’s in the Republican platform. I understand Lin’s point about the political appeal, and maybe they are not serious about it. But it really is not a good policy.
A)”STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER”
B)”1. Rebalance Trade
Our Trade deficit in goods has grown to over $1 Trillion Dollars a year. Republicans will support baseline Tariffs on Foreign-made goods, pass the Trump Reciprocal Trade Act, and respond to unfair Trading practices. As Tariffs on
Producers go up, Taxes on American Workers, Families, and Businesses can come down.”
Daniel, the first quote sounds like Trump. The second is not so much, but it isn’t clear.
“Republicans will support baseline Tariffs on Foreign-made goods,” In that same area are other statements that might explain where the taxes MIGHT be applied. Though Trump is appealing to the populist vote, I don’t think he envisions a foreign tax rate on everything. He is starting negotiations where one must give and take. He is a businessman and understands the dangers of relying too much on tariffs. The stick is seen, and the carrot moves backward on that statement.
You might feel otherwise, but if your worst interpretation were followed, it would still be better than what we have today.
Per Forbes:
“Trump’s Tariffs Were Much More Damaging Than Thought
Stuart Anderson
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Updated Apr 14, 2022, 02:05pm EDT
A trader wipes his eyes as he watches stock prices at the New York Stock Exchange on August 23, …
Donald Trump’s tariffs and the trade war his administration launched against China turned out to be far more damaging than many believed. That is the conclusion of research finding companies, consumers and the U.S. economy paid a heavy price for the Trump administration’s protectionist trade policies.
In new research, Mary Amiti, an economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and Sang Hoon Kong and David Weinstein, both economists at Columbia University, used movements in stock prices to measure the response to policy announcements on tariffs and the escalation of the U.S.-China trade war initiated by the Trump administration. “Stock prices are well suited for this purpose because firm market value equals the expected present value of future firm profits,” according to Amiti, Kong and Weinstein. “Therefore, movements in stock prices tell us about changes in the expected future value of firm-specific capital (both tangible and intangible).”
“The results suggest that markets interpreted the impact of the tariffs as much more negative than what economists initially estimated,” said David Weinstein in an interview. “Part of the reason stems from the fact that the U.S. tariffs rose significantly in 2019, and the earlier studies didn’t include these higher rates. Moreover, the new analysis suggests that the tariffs’ impact on productivity is likely to be a factor holding down U.S. growth rates. The tariffs protect the least efficient firms and reduced their incentives to innovate while hurting the most successful U.S. firms, reducing their ability to innovate.”
Yeah, Trump got us into a recession last time–let’s do it over again–only bigger.
Also from “Forbes:
Can Trump Eliminate The Income Tax? Maybe With An 85% Tariff
Andrew Leahey
Contributor
Tax and technology attorney, professor, podcaster, writer.
Jun 14, 2024,09:54am EDT
Updated Jun 14, 2024, 09:56am EDT
The idea of eliminating the income tax is an attractive one to anyone that has ever had to cut a check to Uncle Sam—but it is far from practical. Recently, former President Donald Trump suggested replacing the federal income tax with tariffs on imports. While it garnered significant attention, a closer examination quickly reveals why the policy is impractical.
The Proposal
In a private meeting with GOP lawmakers at the Capitol Hill Club in Washington, D.C., Trump floated the idea of a so-called “all-tariff policy.” A formal policy proposal has not been released by Trump or his campaign, but it appears the idea is if tariffs on imports were raised sufficiently, the federal income tax could be eliminated entirely.
Broadly, the concept aligns with Trump’s long-standing protectionist trade agenda, which he featured prominently in his first term and rhetoric since.
Tariffs can be thought of as taxes imposed on imported goods—they are ostensibly paid by importers, but the costs are typically passed down to consumers through higher prices for those goods.
When tariffs are applied broadly, as Trump appears to be suggesting, the price increase affects a similarly broad set of goods—essentially, everything that is imported. Retailers and wholesalers will pass on those added expenses to consumers, leading directly to higher prices at checkout.
Such price hikes in everyday goods disproportionately impact low and middle-income households, because they are the consumers that spend the highest percentage of their income on consumable goods. This converts a progressive income tax—higher income folks pay a higher rate—into a regressive tax, akin to a sales tax. As such, in the near term, the only groups benefiting from the elimination of a broad-based income tax and the ratcheting up of tariffs are those folks at the higher end of the socioeconomic spectrum.
Everyday necessities, like clothing, food, and household goods, as well as significant purchases like electronics, vehicles, and equipment, will immediately increase in price. Even goods entirely produced domestically, and thus not directly subject to tariffs, may see price hikes—as demand outstrips supply.
For example, if a broad 25% tariff on all imported goods is placed, the cost of every imported good will go up by at least 25%. Retailers and manufacturers will passed that added expense on to consumers, and prices will necessarily go up on any imported goods or goods that contain imported materials. This will cause consumers to choose domestically-produced lower cost goods, to the extent they are available.
As demand shifts to American made goods, in the absence of a matching level of increased production in every sector of the economy all at once, there will be more demand for domestic goods than supply. Prices will skyrocket just as they did during past supply chain crunches.
In essence, tariffs act as a regressive tax. They were broadly eliminated in favor of an income tax in the late 19th century for just that reason. Their regressive nature means that lower and middle-income consumers would bear the brunt of the cost of financing the public fisc—effectively experiencing an immediate and substantial increase in their cost of living.
Federal Income Tax
So far, in 2024, the federal government has collected $3.29 trillion. In 2023, imports totaled approximately $3.9 trillion. Some quick back of the envelope math will quickly illustrate that replacing the former with a tax on the latter is infeasible.
An average tariff rate of nearly 85% on all imports would be required to replace income tax revenue with tariffs—leading to widespread economic disruption, trade retaliation, revenue instability and the aforementioned concerns regarding economic equity.
Export countries would unquestionably retaliate with their own tariffs, potentially leading a worldwide trade wars that further increase the costs of goods and further damaging the global economy. The fluctuation in import volumes based on economic conditions would make tariff revenue unreliable compared to the comparatively more stable income tax system—potentially leaving the federal government unable to fund basic services.
While the idea of eliminating the income tax in favor of tariffs may be politically appealing to some, it is an unworkable solution for all.”
TRUMP IS IGNORANT ABOUT ECONOMICS–HE’S PROVEN IT.
“Trump’s Tariffs Were Much More Damaging Than Thought
Stuart Anderson”
That is an opinion. Trump’s goals included a strong US economy and a strong military. Many of his actions were to stop the most favored nation mentality, where America gives and others take. His policies were a two-edged sword, but he provided for a strong economy, a strong military, and no wars.
You are providing someone else’s opinion on the left, which isn’t providing facts and is twisting ideas. Take one idea at a time, including Trump’s actual statements. You refuse to do that because you can’t. You were proven ignorant before and again because you can’t separate truth from fiction.
Responding to your attack below: Trump cannot even run a casino without going bankrupt because he’s a lousy businessman. He’s had dozens of failures-because he just doesn’t understand economics. Most sensible people acknowledge the expertise of Forbes when it comes to financial matters. The economists who reported on the disastrous first round of Trump tariffs are basing their opinions on actual data.
Trump didn’t “provide “ anything other than an economic disaster. He doesn’t understand the basics and always approaches everything with the mentality of the bully that he is. China and other countries can produce goods more cheaply than we can because we pay people a living wage, so if we buy more of their goods than we sell them, according to Trump, we’re getting screwed. According to Trump, he must always have what he thinks is an advantage. So, according to him, impose tariffs, which he doesn’t understand are passed along to the consumer in the form of higher prices. For the reasons explained in the lengthy article from Forbes, that not only won’t work— it would tank our economy. And, Forbes is not a leftist publication- quite the opposite. Also, that’s not taking into consideration reciprocal tariffs which would reduce the amount of goods we export. Trump’s plan would be an unmitigated disaster. The “no new wars” rhetoric is BS. There’s nothing there for him to take credit for
“Responding to your attack below: Trump cannot even run a casino without going bankrupt ”
Gigi that is an idiotic statement since you don’t know his model or circumstances. It was a lousy time for casinos, and he was not the one who ran them.
You have gone back to ranting stupidly. No, Forbes is not the best estimator of wealth, and you deflect by saying numerous things while discussing nothing.
Today, Trump is probably worth between 3-6 Billion dollars after losing around one Billion during his Presidency due to the limits of his office.
Let us hear your net worth. It sucks, right?
“The “no new wars” rhetoric is BS. There’s nothing there for him to take credit for”
There was a Ukraine war under Obama/ Biden, and another one was under Biden. A peaceful Mideast exploded under Biden. There was peace during the Trump years. Only an idiot prefers wars and things getting so hot under Biden that WW3 draws closer every day.
Daniel: Ah, but Trump has a different intelligence than you. He knows that a more populist theme will win a greater number of votes than a more pointed approach on topics, -to be analyzed by the likes of intelligent thinkers like you. In that way, he is quite astute, with a clever practicality in his platform(s)–not much different than any other politician for that matter.
Kamala Harris had so little appeal for 2020 Democratic Party primary voters that she dropped out of contention more than two months before the presidential primaries even began. Will the same primary voters who held concerns about her then have a change in their preference now that she has Biden’s somber support? Given how she has so inadequately served the office of Vice-President and that there are still many democrats who are the conscience of their party it should not seem likely. Neither should she be expected to draw enough independent voters who will be voting to make America united again.
Recent history: Vice President Cackling Harris, “unburdened by what has been”, the history of The Big Guy, chose to willingly attaching her lips to… Biden’s (ass this time)… as his Vice President for the next stage of her political career.
Right after publicly telling all Americans that she believed Biden was both a rapist AND a lifetime racist.
Dennis McIntyre is panting with excitement about Harris, that the racist nominee Biden chose as a racist choice based on skin color instead of meritocracy.
Dennis McIntyre can explain that away?
Fox pays him to lie, so Turley lies: “That unprecedented decision alone would warrant a House investigation into Biden’s continuing capacity to serve in an office that he no longer believes he can run to occupy after January 2025.” TURLEY: WHEN DID BIDEN SAY HE DID NOT BELIEVE HE COULD CONTINUE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT? Answer: he never did. That’s just a MAGA-world lie, spread by Republicans and MAGA media. AND, it’s a LIE. Besides being paid, tne reason for Turley repeating this lie is to provide cover if Republicans try to bring a 25th Amendment charge against Biden. It will not only fail, it will backfire spectacularly. And, Turley, who appointed you to speak for what Biden “believes”?
Biden stepped down because of the risk of Republicans from taking Congress–there was concern about down-ballot candidates and the dangers of Project 2025 on American democracy–NOT because he was unfit to continue in office. Biden is a true American patriot–he put country over his own ambitions.
In contrast, when Trump was voted out of office, not only did he refuse to graciously accept the will of the American people–he declared victory anyway, even though all of the ballots hadn’t been counted yet, and the results showed he had lost. Because the Narcissist-in-Chief refuses to be wrong, he went on “Stop the Steal” tours, spreading the Big Lie, riling people up to believe that their candidate had been cheated out of a “victory” by fraud–even though polls predicted he would lose, the country was in shambles, our economy was in recession, kids couldn’t go to school, businesses and restaurants were shut down and there were new daily records of COVID deaths and infections while Trump is lying about COVID not being worse than the flu, even though it is 10Xs more deadly.
So, like dutiful minions, MAGAts showed up in Washington to “fight like hell” because they were told that they wouldn’t have a country any more. One of them was killed. Dozens of police officers were wounded, and some later died. The Capitol itself incurred millions of dollars in damage to clean up human waste, repair broken windows and doors and items stolen by MAGAts. Trump sat by, over 3 hours, and watched the carnage he unleashed unfold and did NOTHING until it was clear that Pence would not leave the Capitol until he finished the job he came to do. Members of Congress also stayed, hunkered down. The attempted coup failed. Trump called off the faithful and told them he “loved” them. Despite getting drubbed out of office, Trump refused to go away like other losing candidates had done–MAGA media constantly broadcast him and his lies, and he did everything possible to pretend he was relevant and to undermine Biden’s presidency, which has been, according to respected historians, one of the most-successful in our history.
Gigi’s here with the usual: Fox pays him to lie, so Turley lies:
Which is different than CNN and MSNBC paying Gigi to lie FOR YEARS that the Soviet Democrats’ “Russia Dossier” was verified intelligence agency product.
Which is different than CNN and MSNBC paying Gigi to lie FOR YEARS that the Biden Bribery Laptop was “just Russian election disinformation”.
VP Cackle Harris inched her way up the political ladder by giving any Soviet Democrat who could help her blowjobs on demand.
Does Gigi have a similar career advancement plan as she appears here as one of our resident Soviet Democrat apparatchiks?
Gigi’s lies are straight from the Soviet Democrats’ Cheap Fake Trump website: https://www.project2025.org/
Imagine being in a position where the only way you can support your Marxist Birthing Person of choice is by lying rather than selling an alternative political platform.
The remaining question is whether Gigi is one of those day drinkers… or she shows up here after a few hits from her autographed First Felon Gun Criminal Family Bagman crack pipe?
People like you reassure me because most Americans are NOT like you MAGAts who can only respond to criticism of MAGA and Trump with insults and lies.
Let me just say that even though you are completely bat shyt crazy, I’m really glad you never resort to insults or lies.
Why are you here, Gigi?
Gigi, you should talk.
Most every time you post, I have dismembered the pseudo facts that you have sprayed at us all.
You have never corrected your errors.
You constantly refer to nearly half the country as Magats. And you dare to complain about insults and lies.
Real Change starts with the person in the mirror.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9NYDgbKsBE
I’m starting with the man in the mirror
I’m asking him to change his ways
And no message could have been any clearer
If you wanna make the world a better place
Take a look at yourself and then make a change
Gigi got off her broom to try this: People like you reassure me because most Americans are NOT like you MAGAts who can only respond to criticism of MAGA and Trump with insults and lies.
It’s so special when a Soviet Democrat Birthing Person who can only pander for Bribery Biden by coming here to drop posts – not responses – that are nothing but collections of lies and insults now cries they are being insulted.
People like you coming here to expressly lie that everything Biden and Obama before him did was actually done by Trump and Republicans is so in-your-face-insulting you deserve to get crap thrown right back in your face.
Not treated as though you’re here to attempt honest discussion.
And people like me are representative of the majority who believe you and that corrupt, pedophile, racist, Felon On Temporary Parole, Biden need to go.
You need to be called out every time the fecal matter that spews out of your mouth flows down your arms to your fingers on your cellphone’s keypad.
Old Dog, I remind you of the Civilivy Rule posted @ the top of the page.
Those who don’t follow it are subject to banning @ this site.
No they are not, you blathering idiot. Rea ipsa loquitur
If they were, Gigi would have been sent packing long ago.
Spastic
David B. Benson tried: Old Dog, I remind you of the Civilivy Rule posted @ the top of the page. Those who don’t follow it are subject to banning @ this site.
To nobody’s great surprise, you have never been seen to direct a similar post to many of your fellow Soviet Democrats who post here – particularly the ones whose posts beg for a response in the same vein.
But tell us, what about a rule about being a serial, pathological liar like several here including yourself?
“Biden is a true American patriot–he put country over his own ambitions.”
No. Joe Biden criticized the killing of General Soleimani in a combat zone. That was disloyal. So no, the SOB is not a patriot.
Sux to be Gigi for the next 12 years
Trump 47
Vance 48
Weren’t you the dreamer who said: “Trump 2020, Ivanka 2024-2032, Barron…” and also predicted the “red wave” that didn’t happen?
No, but you are definitely the one who said Biden is in it to win it
And, he still is….by stepping aside.
Lmao thats exactly how your mind works.
You don’t even care how stupid you look, do you
Gigi,
the same people who said it was just a ‘cheap fake’ if Biden was seen unable to walk well, etc.
and that there was no doubt he wasn’t too old, and he was as capable as ever to be President,
are now PRAISING Kamala for being ‘young’ and ‘energetic’ and so on and so on.
Like they’re just going to sweep the whole Biden Situation underneath the rug, forgotten, gone.
Which is what you will be doing here, repeating their talking points, making their excuses… And so on.
Gigi
Only Demented Joe, you and very few others beleive Joe Biden is competent.
He was FORCED out, by the democratic elite BECAUSE during the debate and subsequently the lie that he was competent was readily visible to the american people.
These elites do not and never cared if Biden was competent. They have been lying to us about that for years.
All they have ever cared about is whether he had a better shot at winning than anyone else.
In 2020 they were by hook or crook able to drag Biden over the finish line by changing the rules and then cheating.
In 2024 they have sued the Crap out of Trump and then charged him with all kinds of transparently idiotic crimes.
When that did not work,
and trying to get him assassinated did not work,
They had no choice but replace him.
Did Biden say he was not competent ? No. People who are demented rarely say they are demented.
They live in a distorted reality – of course that is clearly true of you too -0 are you suffering from dementia ?
Regardless, while Democrat elites have succeeded in driving Biden out of the race, they have failed to end the issue – if BIden must withdraw as candidate – why is he able to continue as president ?
Will Republicans seek to make political hay of that ?
Absolutely.
But Democrats created the problem.
“Biden stepped down because of the risk of Republicans from taking Congress”
It is Correct that is why Democrats forced Biden out.
But Biden left because the Democrat elites cut off his money and refused to support the candidate their party elected.
They did so – because as you say they were likely to lose congress.
But why were they likely to lose congress ?
Because the american people not only saw Biden’s failed mental state in the debate, but at every public attempt to turn that impression around since.
Biden did not do a service to the country – he never should have run in the first place.
Not is 2024, not in 2020.
He has never been up to the job – not even close.
But worse still – even in 2020 Democrats KNEW that and ran him anyway.
They USED Biden – because the gaggle of other democrat contenders was too far left and came off as Harpies to the electorate.
Democrat elites made Biden the candidate in 2020 – not because he was competent, but because by hook or crook they could drag him accross the finish line.
The same people fought off other challengers to Biden in 2024 – for the same reasons.
And abandoned him when it was clear they could no longer drag his demented ass accross the finish line.
These people are YOUR party.
They do not give a schiff about you or your interests,
They are in it for THEIR personal power.
And Biden was no different – until it because obvious he was too mentally compromised to be useful anymore.
Gigi – what you are praising is a coup against not just Biden but the voters who elected him in the primary.
First the left, the media, democrats lied to those voters about his competence to get him elected in 2020 and 2024
as well as lying bout his corruption.
Now that it is no longer possible to hide his incompetence and it is clear he can notbeat Trump despite massive civil and criminal lawfare and even a failed assassination attempt that came close because the Biden administration did not give a damn about protecting Trump or RFK jr.
After all this is the party that was looking to remove Secret Service protection entirely.
Regardless there was no difference between the Democrat Elites efforts to overturn the primary election of Biden
Than Trump’s efforts to overturn the general election of Biden.
In both cases voters were disenfgranchised in favor of others.
Gigi Your president asked that Trump be Targeted, and have a bullseye on him.
Your party tried to Strip[ his secret service protection.
Your president is responsible for the careless secret service protection – as if they Hoped someone might assassinate Trump – and they nearly did.
A wide variety of prominent democrats speciulated about Trump beingf assassinated – including many entertainment figures staging Trump assassination porn.
Sorry, you do not get to make anything of “Fight like hell”
You have blood on your hands.
Trumps blood – which you wanted – though fortunately he did not die.
And a firefighters blood that you will willing to shed in the hope of getting Trump as well as two others wounded.
If you want to claim rhetoric kills – it is YOUR rhetoric that is tied to all the violence and death.
Whether it is shooting up the Congressional Republican Baseball practice, or killing Alishi, or the many others who have been murdered because in left wing nut world – only Conservatives are denied the right to use violent metaphors in their speech.
BREAKING NEWS, BREAKING NEWS, Dennis McIntyre!!!!
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Any comment on how this “saves democracy” for all the delegates who voted to be locked in to Biden as the candidate?
BREAKING NEWS, BREAKING NEWS, Dennis McIntyre!!!!
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https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/bg072324dAPR-800×0.jpg
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Any comment on how this “saves democracy” for all the delegates who voted to be locked in to Biden as the candidate?
No sight or sound from Joe, Jill or Hunter, withdrawal letter written by someone else, not on WH stationery, signature not similar to past signatures, and I am wondering if this looks any different from what we would see if there were a silent coup in play.
I don’t know, but if you don’t want to be suspected don’t act suspiciously.
Speaking of suspicions, I wonder if Fauci will be up as Kamala’s VP.
Naw, too crazy…I hope.
Thinking more on it, a true silent coup would probably look more legit than what we are seeing.
Everything about this administration is a Gaza Pier or Afghanistan Retreat…a total f**I up by DEI hires.
Leave it to Jayme do rag Raskin to make it about the A.R. 15.
Newsflash for him, and the rest of you dummies out there.
If this douche had used Daddys Remington, 700 BDL, in 308 caliber, and aimed for trumps chest, he would be dead right now
By the way, for you dummies, that is a hunting rifle
An Anonymous Internet Airsoft Gun Bunnie: If this douche had used Daddys Remington, 700 BDL, in 308 caliber, and aimed for trumps chest, he would be dead right now
Remarkably like the cut like a marshmallow Tour Of Duty Airsoft Gun Bunnie that says the right choice of cartridge for an amateur would be the .338 Lapua Magnum.
Do we have one or two Airsoft Gun Bunnie sniper experts here… or the same Anonymous Gun Bunnie.
Don’t hide behind ‘Anonymous’, little flexing and posing Internet Airsoft Warrior Gun Bunny. If you can’t figure out how to pick the same username each time you post, you can always end with a username of your choice. Like this, you bag of smashed foreskins:
Old Airborne Dog
Do you have something to say, or do you just want to let us watch you choke your shriveled chicken?
There were two choices in that Anons post the other day.
A 5.56 headshot or a large caliber center mass shot. With one chance to kill the target, its pretty obvious the choice.
As I recall, He proposed a 338 Lapua as HIS choice. He didnt say he thought it was the best choice, it sounded more like a for instance. He also declined to defend his choice except to say so long as it was a large caliber, done deal.
You are the one who went off on tangents about expert pistol shots and what a SS sniper uses for 1000 yard shots. You sound like a rabid animal. Take some valium bro.
He also mentioned that his 338 Semi auto had less recoil than his bolt action 300 winmag.
In your world, does someone need to have been shot at to have an opinion? Watch that expert sniper on the roof shit his pants at the first gunshot. Yea, he’s a tough guy.
Here today, the commenter is making the point that the shooter could have made better choices in EASILY AVAILABLE guns than the AR15 that Raskin chose to demonize in a hearing about the failure of the Secret Service. You decide to go off about call of duty.
So who’s flexing and posing?
And no, airbornne rabid dog, I am not that anonymous poster
DDC wants to join The Whining Gun Bunny Brigade:
A 5.56 headshot or a large caliber center mass shot. With one chance to kill the target, its pretty obvious the choice. .. You are the one who went off on tangents about expert pistol shots and what a SS sniper uses for 1000 yard shots. You sound like a rabid animal. Take some valium bro.
‘Pretty obvious’ your obviously civvy ass. Call of Duty is not the real world. The primary choice is center of mass when available, especially under the pressure of taking out a threat before it gets the next shot off. The head shot becomes the choice when the only thing you can see is the head i.e. the top of the head exposed above a roofline.
Yep, we ALWAYS train our snipers and Distinguished Marksman overseas, our bricks doing house clearing in close quarters combat, to ALWAYS attempt the head shot, instead of the center of mass shot. Because it’s pretty obvious the choice! The head shot versus the center of mass choice is ALWAYS the most obvious choice that you’re least likely to miss!
Always. Every time! The smaller head area is much easier to miss than the chest area that’s about four times the size! The Whining Gun Bunny Brigade has spoken, just returned from combat in Call Of Duty?
Why?
Here’s the thing, Jack. Because it’s pretty obvious: The only way a 5.56 round can kill somebody at 130 yards is if it’s a head shot. Now there’s a surprise to a lot of dead enemy soldiers, not to mention a lot of everyday deer and antelope back home in America every hunting season. Very few of whom are shot in the head, rather than the chest.
Now… when former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino was commenting two days ago, he mentioned that while he was in the Secret Service, they regularly practiced pistol shots at around that distance, just to plan for that worst case scenario. Obviously, he’s a rabid animal as well for you to point out, Gun Bunny #2.
I added for the handgun-ignorant Internet Gun Bunnies that IHMSA competitors regularly clean the banks of turkeys 150 yards away, while standing and shooting against the timer I didn’t say I’d prefer the handgun – which he and perhaps now you want insinuate I did. What I pointed out is that you didn’t need a .338 Lapua Magnum versus a 5.56 due to “wind drift” to hit a target 130 yards away.
But, you go ahead and join the flexing and posing, Gun Bunny #2. Meanwhile…
1. Why won’t a 5.56 kill a human being with a shot to the chest at 130 yards – like it’s been doing with ball ammunition on our battlefields for over 60 years? Head shots are required?
2. What genius thinks the best plan is to go with a .338 Lapua Magnum intended for extreme long range for a 100 yard shot instead… especially when at the same time you’re babbling about “EASILY AVAILABLE” calibers. In his house or the local Wal-Mart? .338 Lapua Magnum… “easily available”???? (certainly not the Secret Service)
3. Are you and Gun Bunny #1 going to make a pitch to the Secret Service that they’ve made a poor choice with their 30 caliber sniper rifles instead of .338 Lapua and the other EASILY AVAILABLE bigger calibers ?
How about the Secret Service CAT team members, seen in this murder attempt in full battle rattle, ready for close combat using short barreled 5.56 rifles instead of something much larger from the EASILY AVAILABLE calibers they can spend our tax dollars on? Why aren’t they using M16/AR15 lowers with at least a .45 or .50 caliber upper on the receiver? Especially when the 5.56 is inadequate?
Give us your best guess at what engagement ranges those CAT team operators train for with their 5.56 caliber rifles?
For bonus points: do they train to make head shots with their pipsqueak 5.56 rifles… or center of mass?
You two need to get a room to play Call of Duty together dressed in your combat man jammies. Captain Obvious has never visited your houses. Nor, clearly, have you ever made a trip overseas where you’d notice NOBODY in the Coalition or NATO forces follows your theories.
Whether on selection of caliber, whether to prefer to attempt a head shot versus a torso shot… or pretty much everything else you babbled about.
You’re almost enough to make me change my mind and agree with a mandatory tour of military service to help you get all the shyte you believe in out of your heads. But then… I’d have been stuck having to serve beside Gun Bunny veterans who arrived in the military fresh from their last war playing Call of Duty.
Wow, did you go to the John Say school of saying nothing in as many words as possible?
Whats “head shot if thats all you can see” got to do with a goddam thing, you spastic idiot? I stopped reading there.
Seems you also went to the Svelaz -George school of changing the subject when you look like an idiot.
Good boy.
DDC posted: Wow, did you go to the John Say school of saying nothing in as many words as possible?
Neither of us posts in hopes of any intelligent response from people like yourself who are limited with a 15 second attention span.
Now, why don’t you and the original Internet Gun Bunny enjoy a nice Grindr date together, share an after sex cigarette, then combine your four brain cells and figure out how you’d have gotten the preferred .338 Lapua Magnum rifle into that little black backpack the would be murder used to carry his rifle inside through the crowd and to climb up on to that roof.
You two are a good argument for people being required to pass a licensing test before being allowed to breed.
Why is ball ammunition used in the infantry, mr know it all?
Nobody said it wouldnt kill. Change the subject much? The higher power has other advantages. You been schooled on them.
3 you rant about choosing a lkng range caliber for short range use and then try to conflate the caliber chosen bu the snipers. Make up your own rabid mind. 338 no good at that range. 300wm good at that range
Your stupidity is laughable.
Bongino also said what, asshat? That a large caliber shot at the cheat was the ticket here. Glad you saw that interview. Too bad you were too chickenshit to admit what you heard.
Rabid Dog
What caliber did Chris Kyle use for his longest kill?
Now, do you also know how many kills he made under 200 yards with that same gun?
Go Navy!
Douchebag.
Is this Joe Biden I am talking to? But you stepped in doo doo again. I know what caliber those operators were using at the Trump rally. It wasn’t 5.56.
Sorry, big mouth.
The assault team operators, not the counter snipers. Dodnt want to confuse you with that call of duty talk.
I think decrepit ravid dog plays call of doody
The left has no idea of gun ownership or what action and the ballistics are about. They are mostly apartment dwellers, never knowing the freedom of the woods.
Traveller posted: The left has no idea of gun ownership or what action and the ballistics are about. They are mostly apartment dwellers, never knowing the freedom of the woods.
Ever think that they might be weird loner losers – just like the would be murderer that almost succeeded due to ongoing Secret Service abject failure leadership, meritocracy replaced by adverse political based decisions towards protecting opposing politicians.
Ever think they post as ‘Anonymous’ because they don’t want to be exposed by using the same username for all their posts?
Ever consider that these Anonymous Internet Gun Bunnies get all their ‘knowledge’ from playing Call of Duty in those basements, where they decide that there’s no way a 5.56 ball or hunting load hitting Trump in the chest could possibly kill him? And so the better choice would be the .338 Lapua Magnum that is their favorite choice for playing Call of Duty?
Old Airborne Dog
Miss the point much douchebag?
Why dont you go find out how many Rem 700 BDL are sold in 5.56 and come back and let us know.
Say, we can rant if we want to
If we don’t, nobody will
And you can act real cool and totally removed
And I can rant like an imbecile
Safety Rant, by Decrepit Air Dog
The 357 king!!
I’ll tell you what, big mouth Airborne Douche.
Bet me a thousand dollars, and I will post a picture of my collection of AR’s and my large bore hunting rifles. I will post the email address and password so you can have a look. I will also post my marksman medals from the Navy. Tell me what you’d like in the photo to validate it?
.338 LM semi auto
.300 WM bolt action 700 with tactical chassis
6.5 creedmoor semi auto carbon AR (8 pounds with optics)
Numerous AR’s of carious calibers
I served in 3 wars and although i was never “shot at”, i assure you i spent several YEARS in harms way.
Pulling rank is what piss ants do when they dont have anything useful to say.
My name is Waters, and i will sign in however the fvck i choose. If you stfu long enough to listen, you’d already have known that.
@Old Airborne
What was Chris Kyle’s longest kill made with?
Much of this is irrelevant.
The likelyhood of a headshot killing in any calibur and any distance is incredibly high, If you can hit the target.
It is unlikely that I or most in the country could have hit Trump at 150 yds – but then Most of us have little expereince or practive.
At 100yds most AR-15’s can put 5 consecutive shots in a 2″ circle with any shooter of basic competence – which purportedly Crooks was. Yet Crooks spray 5-8 rounds in an oval about 3ft high and 8ft wide all arround Trump – with only the first shot coming close – very very close.
If it had done more than graze Trump it more than likely would have killed him or at the very least removed him from the election.
Even if I do not have the experience and practice to make it – this apparently was an easy shot.
Hitting Trump in the body would have been much easier, but with lower odds of killing him.
Many factors including the load, and the calibur would increase the odds of killing with a body shot.
I am not an expert, nor am I trying to get into the clash of experts here.
But the fact is that Trump got incredibly lucky.
That (likely pos) AR had an MOA of 2 when the (likely pos) barrel was brand new. That means it would fire a group in a 2 inch circle if there were NO OTHER variables. So you’re wrong about that. No telling how many rounds had been fired thru it. That means the MOa was even larger for the “non experts”. Add in a wind variable and a non stationary target (the head) and its not so easy to hit but very easy to miss.
Add in a climb onto a roof, people shouting hey, he’s on the roof with a gun, a crawl up the roof, and a limited time to set up and fire, now its almost luck if he does hit.
“Yet Crooks spray 5-8 rounds in an oval about 3ft high and 8ft wide all arround Trump – with only the first shot coming close – very very close.”
It was 8 rounds. And one guy was hit 20-30 yards away from Trump.
Maybe you should do a little more research before commenting again
With the right projectile, pretty much any center fire rifle round in the chest would have been fatal. A large caliber makes for fewer variables.
The load??? The load would have made a difference in the lethality?? The load in your pants has more to do with it. You’re right, you dont know much if anything and should probably not comment, as you’ll only confuse people.
I do love this though. Most of this is irrelevant.
lMAO I guess thats why you limited your comment to less that 5000 words.
Another Anonymous… What was Chris Kyle’s longest kill made with?
At 130 – 150 yards?
A fork?
So his longest kill was 150 yards?
Another Svelaz tactic. Wont answer the question.
Knows it all but wont answer a question.
Not as good as your floundering idiocy.
It is interesting to contrast and compare our last two vice presidents. In validating the electoral count, Mike Pence performed his office out of a duty to the American people even though his actions were contrary to the wishes of President Trump. Mike Pence left office with his integrity intact. In contrast, Kamala Harris was an active participant in the veiling of President Biden’s mental decline in order to support President Biden’s determination to run for four more years. Eventually the truth came out. In my opinion, Kamala Harris has not passed the Mike Pence integrity test.
In my opinion, Kamala Harris has not passed the Mike Pence integrity test.
You MAGA racist! Your systemic white racism and your patriarchy is doomed!
Ah, so because she is biracial, she is above criticism. How convenient. At least Arnold is not “anonymous” like you.
I believe anon was being sarcastic.
Arnold Nordsieck,
She participated in the greatest scandal of the century. So did Biden family members, close advisors, staff and friends.
MSM went along with it.
Again, it’s not ‘the greatest scandal of the century.’
No, that would still be the Russia hoax. Followed by the laptop hoax, or Russia hoax part deux.
Minor correction. LBJ announced he would not run for reelection after the New Hampshire primary/
Not a minor detail. It’s a huge difference. And in those days the primary season went well into the summer. Case in point, RFK’s assassination was on June 6, 1968, just after the California primary.