Succession by Defenestration: How Biden’s Withdrawal May Trigger a 25th Amendment Fight

Below is my column in the Hill on the withdrawal of President Joe Biden from the 2024 election. After weeks of Democrats and the media raising the alarm of his mental capacity, Biden finally gave up his public refusal to step aside. Harris will now be the nominee through succession by defenestration, or being tossed from a window. Yet, there remains a lingering question of Biden’s capacity to serve for another six months as president.

Here is the column:

President Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw as the Democratic Party’s nominee solved an immediate problem for his party. Biden has plummeted in the polls as the vast majority of voters concluded that he is too diminished by age to serve another term. Yet, it has now created several new problems, including the obvious problem of a president who is viewed as incapable of running for an office that he continues to hold.

The Democratic Party essentially created its own political version of the 25th Amendment in forcing Biden off the ticket. This decision was about as voluntary as leaving a building by way of a window on the 46th floor. That is particularly the case when you are thrown out of the window by your closest friends.

The unseemly image of succession by defenestration will soon be whitewashed by a media that will praise Biden after weeks of declaring him incompetent and enfeebled.

That, however, leaves the lingering question after the fall. How can Biden remain in office when he is incapable of running for the office?

Biden is notably vague about the reason for his withdrawal after maintaining for days that he will be the party’s nominee. He simply says that it is in the best interests of the country.

The Democratic establishment has two equally unappealing options.

First, it could argue that Biden was withdrawing out of recognition that he is no longer politically viable. But that makes a mockery out of the democratic process. Millions of people went through the primary elections to select him as their nominee. Now he would be set aside and replaced by a vote of the party establishment like a shift in the Russian politburo.

Second, it could admit that Biden was, as stated for weeks in the media and by figures like Special Counsel Robert Hur, greatly diminished both mentally and physically. However, that makes this withdrawal an admission that could trigger a fight under the 25th Amendment.

The development could create a new constitutional controversy. The 25th Amendment was written with largely physical disabilities in mind. If a president is comatose, the incapacity is obvious and Section 4 allows the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet to sign a declaration to Congress that a president is incapable of holding office.

However, Harris is eager to avoid the image of Brutus in the dispatching of the president. To support such a declaration would risk Biden proclaiming “Et tu, Kamala?” to the nation. The key to succession by defenestration is not to be seen as the hand that pushes the president out the windowPolitics follows the same rules as the mafia for capo di tutti i capi: Kill a don, never be a don. While sometimes honored in the breach in the mob, it is hardly an auspicious path for a politician.

There is, however, another intriguing possibility.

Section 4 provides that a president’s fitness can be put before Congress when the “Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or such other body as Congress may by law provide.”

Previously Democrats have cited that language to suggest that they could create their own body to force former President Donald Trump out of office. Indeed, Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-Md.) sponsored legislation called the Oversight Commission on Presidential Capacity Act to create a commission empowered to examine a president to Congress on the president’s capacity. It would circumvent the necessity of getting Harris to be the primary hand that dispatched a president.

The question is whether Congress will now make this decision to warrant an investigation or even a Raskin-like bill.

This is different than President Lyndon Johnson’s decision on March 31, 1968, that “I shall not seek, and I will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president.”

That was before the end of the primaries. In this case, Biden won a primary in which the Democratic Party obstructed anyone who would challenge him and barred any debate.

Millions voted for him, and tens of millions of dollars were contributed to his campaign. He is now withdrawing weeks before accepting the nomination. That unprecedented decision alone would warrant a House investigation into Biden’s continuing capacity to serve in an office that he no longer believes he can run to occupy after January 2025.

Before this decision, a special counsel cited President Biden’s diminished faculties as a reason not to indict him for unlawfully retaining and handling classified material. Now, the president is effectively saying that, in addition to being allegedly too diminished to be prosecuted, he is too diminished to run for the office that he currently holds.

The question is whether Biden has ended the fight to retain his nomination only to trigger a fight to retain his office.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage” (Simon & Schuster).

591 thoughts on “Succession by Defenestration: How Biden’s Withdrawal May Trigger a 25th Amendment Fight”

  1. The Democrats will never allow the 25th Amendment to be invoked because it would tell the American public that they have been lied to for the last few years. That is why they are allowing Biden to serve out his term. It also gives Democrats cover for any sketchy executive orders that Biden issues in the next few months.

    1. And republicans will be ranting and railing about Democrats failure to do so making Biden as much of an albatross arround their necks as possible.

      The objective is NOTY to get Biden out – though that may occur.
      The objective is to repeatedly point out that the democrats have and continue to lie.
      To make democrats defend the competence of Biden over and over again.

      Rerpublicans have a good attack on ALL democrats here – unable to run for president is the same as unable to be president.
      Democrats got rid of Biden for the first. They are cukpable if they do not for the 2nd. Though they wont.

  2. Now it begins:

    Secret Service director resigns amid criticism of Trump security handling

    As news broke that Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle had resigned amid criticism of her handling of Donald Trump’s security, the former president wrote this, on Truth Social:

    The Biden/Harris Administration did not properly protect me, and I was forced to take a bullet for Democracy. IT WAS MY GREAT HONOR TO DO SO!

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/jul/23/kamala-harris-says-she-is-looking-forward-to-accepting-democratic-nomination-as-she-secures-support-of-enough-delegates-live

  3. There is just something about the way Kamala looks that I do not like. I can not quite put my finger on it, and maybe it is the way she holds her mouth, or the way she crinkles the skin on her face, but something is off with her. It is not her skin tone, and if I did not know whether she was a conservative or liberal, Democrat or Republican, I would not trust her. I am struggling to find the right word – smarmy, smug, insincere, patronizing, arrogant – they all come close – but not quite the whole picture. What is the word I am looking for???

    1. What is the word I am looking for???

      “Ghoulish” comes to my mind. We were taught in our high school Latin America History course, that the Incas and Aztecs sacrificed their virgins and children to appease their pagan gods. It’s hard to differentiate them from current DNC “talking points”, not that Kamala can utter talking points so as to be understood nor taken seriously

      NB:

      DOJ asks SCOTUS to allow most of new sex discrimination rule to go into effect
      Solicitor General Prelogar also strongly backs the trans-inclusive sex discrimination definition in the Title IX education rule….In other words, DOJ argued that an injunction against enforcing the definition provision of the Title IX rule is inappropriate because the states and groups claim no injuries from that definition…..”
      https://www.lawdork.com/p/doj-scotus-title-ix-rule-stay-request

      “no injuries”. How utterly ghoulish of them. Just like Kamala Harris. Cue Jim Jones, Guayana and Kool-Aid

      1978:
      Jonestown Massacre: How 918 people followed a cult leader to Guyana, ‘drank the Kool-Aid’… and died in a single day
      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jonestown-massacre-documentary-40-years-drink-kool-aid-jim-jones-what-happened-mass-suicide-cult-guyana-dead-a8232856.html

      2023:
      United States Self-immolation: How 70 Million Democrats followed a cult leader in America, “drank the Kool-Aid’, and died in a single election cycle
      Believers of the Woke Democrat Temple of the Disciples of DEI followed DNC Hillary-Obama-Biden-Harris, hoping to create equity in nation

      URL link TBD

      1. Dear Estovir: what would your Jesuit pastor say about the racist and misogynistic things you write about? How would he feel about your support for a convicted criminal, adjudicated sexual assaulter and fraudster? Or, are you one of those “religious” people who hear only the parts of the message that confirm your biases and discard the rest?

        1. Gigi, would that like how you one of those “political” people
          who hear only the parts of the message that confirm your biases and discard the rest?

        2. What would Joe Bidens God say about destroying life he created, while its in the womb?

          Shut your pathetic hypocritical, lying mouth, Gigi

        3. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was convicted and executed for plotting to assassinate Germany’s leader.
          Most people consider Bonhoeffer a saint.

          With respect to your allegations regarding Trump. He has been tried in the court that matters – that of voters and your case has been found woefully lacking on all charges. It is merely a question of time before the courts catch up.

          BTW technically Trump has not been convicted – that does not occur until Merchan accepts the Jury verdict.
          I do not expect that to occur before until as close as possible to the election – as the moment Merchan officially changes Trump’s status to a convicted felon Trump will be able to appeal directly to federal courts and he will likely get a very quick reversal of the verdict.

          While there are dozens of grounds that will eventually lead to the reversal of this case – most will take a great deal of time.
          But there are THREE that will result in near instant reversals before a judge that is not corrupt.

          The first is the failure of Merchan to require a unanimous verdict on all elements.
          The second is trying Trump for allegations he was not indicted or charged with, and doing so without notice prior to closing arguments as to what those other allegations even were.
          The third is presenting constitutionally barred testimony. The most obvious is allowing witnesses to testify well beyond the crimes indicted and alleged. But Merchan prior to the start of the trial batted off as bogus Trump’s claims that Witnesses that were WH staff could not be required to testify. SCOTUS directly addressed that in the immunity case. Merchan has no argument for “harmless error” – because the prosecutor stated in closing that this evidence was CRUCIAL to their case.

          Merchan after having railroaded Trump is now playing delay delay delay in order to delay Trump’s successful appeals as long as possible.

          Regardless only in the tank left wing nuts do not understand that the lawfare against Trump was a FAILURE.

          Fixing weaponized political prosecutions is now a Republican campaign plank.

          1. I think if Kamala brings the lawfare up again, Trump should call her out on it and have a national discussion about the Biden role in using the courts as a political weapon. There were something like a half dozen either rarely prosecuted or first impression cases brought in within a year of a national campaign. As an attorney, I find it disgraceful. Even my liberal lawyer friends are embarrassed by it. If you think it was disgusting that the legal system was used as a weapon against blacks in the 50’s and 60’s in the south, then I fail to see how you wouldn’t have a problem with this. They’re absolutely ridiculous cases that aren’t being brought against anyone else. No one has prosecuted a stand alone falsification of business records. Why would they? What would be the point? It’s a low level misdemeanor. That’s why NYC didn’t even bother. If they want to make hay out of calling Trump a felon, then let’s talk about it. Let’s talk about a defamation case involving a 30yr old alleged act and how it took millions from a Biden donor a bill of attainder to get it to court.

        4. What has Estovir written that is Racist or Misogynist ?

          I will be happy to condemn him for racism or misogyny, but before doing so I want actual evidence – not just heated claims without basis.

          Disagreeing with those on the left is neither racist nor misogynist.

          Not believing all women is no more sexist than not believing all men.

          If you are going to make heinous accusations of others you are obligated to support them.

          1. I cant be a racist. Im a Latino person of color. That is as bullet proof as, “I cant be overdrawn in my checking account. I still have blank checks”. Such is the intellectual depth of Peter “fraudster” Gigi / Shill.

            1. Anonymous, your ability to be bulletproof would quickly disappear if you were Jewish. That demonstrates how ridiculous it is to look at color, race or religion, but the left will never stop. MLK is probably turning over in his grave with progressives saying race and color over character. In the process, they are building a culture of hate.

    2. She looks like a dude.

      Her neck is as wide as her head.

      She looks like a horse when she laughs.

      Other than that, whats not to like?

  4. Jonathan: I have never seen such desperation by the GOP since Nixon was forced to resign. Kamala Harris has completely upended DJT’s game plan. Republicans are now having second thoughts about DJT’s pic for VP. They see JD Vance as a weak performer after his first campaign rally.

    You can see the desperation in the DJT camp. They plan to file lawsuits in Ohio and a few other states to keep Biden on the ballot. Election law experts all say that litigation will fail because Biden is not the official nominee of the party. If Harris is the nominee she will be on the ballot in all 50 states!

    And DJT is running scared. He doesn’t want to debate Harris. Why? Because Harris is a much younger opponent who is an experienced debater. She is a former prosecutor and AG of California. In the 2020 VP debate she had Mike Pence on his heels. So now DJT is demanding that the second debate sometime in September should not be hosted by NBC–but on FoxNews where DJT thinks he will have a more friendly audience and face only softball questions from the Fox hosts. That won’t happen. So DJT has a dilemma. If he refuses to debate Harris he will appear weak. If he is forced to debate Harris he won’t enjoy the advantage he had with Biden.

    So suddenly the DJT campaign is in disarray. They said they would be thrilled to run against Harris. Now they are not so thrilled. Some Republicans are now even questioning DJT pic for VP–especially after his poor performance at his first campaign rally in Ohio.

    DJT thinks God is on his side. But maybe God spared DJT from assassination for another reason. God doesn’t like racists or misogynists. Maybe God wants the Trumpster to face a Black woman instead. Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord!

    1. Thank you Dennis, that last paragraph made me smile. And by the way, your right, they are scared to death of Harris.

      1. Thanks Dennis: you are correct on all counts. They SHOULD BE scared of her–she’s everything Trump isn’t–young, articulate, no baggage, not a racist, xenophobe, misogynist, adjudicated fraudster or sexual assaulter.

        1. Gigi, Kamala has ‘no baggage’???
          There’s no way you’re serious about that.
          Just her record in CA alone should get you to retract it.

          1. WHAT “baggage”? Has she: started an insurrection, been convicted criminally, under indictments, been impeached, twice, been adjudicated a sexual assaulter, adjudicated fraudster? The racial and misogynistic slurs from MAGA media don’t count.

        2. Here is Tulsi Gabbard 4 years ago DISMEMBERING Harris with SOME of her baggage – and there is lots more.
          She has been such a Disaster as a VP that even Biden hides her in the closet.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1-CRrMDSLs

          I absolutely welcome Harris to the public stage.
          Unlike Biden she should be expected to appear publicly and as frequently as Trump who is 30 years her senior.
          She should be expected to speak about whatever matters to her – without Teleprompters for hours.
          And she should be judged on what she says, and how she does.

          She should face the same criticism and public vetting as Trump or Vance.
          A dozen republicans should try to do half as well as Gabbard did in 2020 at slicing and dicing her.

          BTW Gabbard just barely touched on Harris’s pre VP baggage.
          He baggage as VP is even worse.

          Regardless Harris’s appeal to the blue collar voters needed to defeat Trump is FAR worse than Biden’s.
          Harris is a coastal elite.
          She might play well in Calfornia – thought I would not bet money on that.

            1. Gigi: You reliance on “polls” and MSNBC/CNN showing Harris ahead are misplaced. Polls are no longer trustworthy indicators of results. They, like media, have been largely prostituted by actors/entities with an agenda….

              Hillary Clinton was massively ahead of Trump in polls and news’ favorability….oh well…
              Polls used to be based on random telephone calls. That revealed a fraudulent result because pollsters would choose geographic areas heavily populated with a certain demographic favorable to the pollster’s intended result/outcome.
              Moreover, too many persons were unwilling to answer, (except certain demographics), also skewing results….

              Pollsters then changed to online survey clickbait for convenient and less-expensive sampling. “Opt-in” sampling is now widely used, and carries its own equal risk of skewed results intended to favor certain outcomes….Selective “herd-polling” also skews results.

              Many polls are not intended to reflect voter results, but rather, to subliminally influence them….
              Thanks anyway for citing your poll.

              1. They, like media, have been largely prostituted by actors/entities with an agenda….

                Lin, It is not correct to say Gigi is a prostitute. He does not walk up and down Sunset Street in West Hollywood soliciting John’s. No, Gigi, jumps off of buildings onto passing vehicles, lands right atop the hood, and, in a very lady-like manner, tells the drivers that unless they pay him, he will do the spread eagle. Naturally, the drivers comply because they dont want to provoke San Andreas Fault, cause an earthquake and foment a tsunami. Besides, there isnt enough Penicillin to keep that variant of syphilis under control, so… pay the dude(tte)!

    2. Dennis – there are very very few polls of Harris/Trump – but the few recent ones there are suggest nothing has changed.
      And those before Biden’s withdraw indicate that Harris is less popular than Biden.

      Further though it “appears” that Harris will be the Democrats nominee, that is not certain yet. Most significant democrats have endorsed her – but Obama as an example has NOT and in his remarks seems to suggest he expects someone far more charasmatic to emerge by the convention.

      Regardless, your claim that the GOP is afraid of Harris is loonacy.

      Absolutely Republicans have been enjoying the mess that is the democratic party.

      But the FACT is that Biden’s now obvious mental infirmity AT BEST cost him about 1% in the polls – He was losing before the claims of mental competance became untenable. He was losing because he is a failed president. Harris has Biden as an albatross arround her neck regardless.

      She was VP, She was part of Biden’s failed polices – and often failed WORSE than Biden – Harris was “Border Czar”
      She has managed to have higher negatives than Biden. Worse and very important she has absolutely no appeal at all to blue collar voters that Democrats MUST regain to win any election. She has absolutely no charisma. Her laugh is maniacal , she makes more verbal gaffes than Biden and does not have the excuse of dementia.

      Tulsi Gabbard did an excellent job of assassinating her at the Democratic debates – after which she withdrew.

      If Democrats wanted the slightest chance in this election – they would BEG Gabbard to return and run. But Gabbard has left the Democratic Party and endorsed Trump.

    3. Remember when Dennis predicted Trump would be taken down by the “first intelligent black woman in a court room”?

      For some reason, Dennis just doesnt put black women on a level field with the rest of society.

      He always differentiates them. Why is that? I believe it is because Dennis is a racist.

    4. Harris is a great debater ? Really ? How well did she do in the Democratic debates in 2020 ? She had her ass handed to her.
      She did absymally and withdrew early – shortly after being sliced and diced by Tulsi Gabbard.

      Harris stands less of a chance than Biden in 2024. The best hope Democrats have from Harris is that she will not take out democrats down ballot with her.

      No one is afraid of Kackling Kamala.

      Several other democratic contenders have announced they WILL NOT accept the nomination as Harris’s running mate.
      Shappiro, Newsome and Whitmer do not want to be taken down with Harris.

    5. It is too early for reliable polling – While RCP is showing Trump/Harris now, it is clear that most of the polls are Trump/Biden.
      Though in the few polls of Trump Harris there have been – Trump beats Harris by slightly larger margins than he beats Biden.
      Harris has no blue collar appeal, no rust belt appeal. She is a west coast elite – that may play well in Hollywood, but not in Michigan or Pennsylvania.

      The past several weeks have been horrid for Democrats. The big deal is not the small collapse in Biden’s polls – which will be no better for Harris. The Big deal is that Democratic voters are despondent and Republican voters are fired up. Harris does nothing to change that.
      While Michelle Obama would likely lose as she is a disasterous campaigner – atleast in the abstract she is a better choice – she benefits from Barack’s Charisma.

      To have a chance in November Democrats need a charasmatic candidate that appeals to Blue Collar and Rust Belt voters. That causes not merely democrats but large numbers of independents to actually want to vote. Because right now Republicans WANT to vote.
      The enthusiasm gap is enormous.

      The lawfare has failed.
      The assassination attempt has failed.

      You can rant and rave about Trump all you want – he took a bullet for the country. The draft dodger nonsense is DOA.
      But more than getting hit in the ear – millimeters from his head. More than somehow being in the donut hole of a flury of bullets none further than 5ft away was the FACT that with no knowledge that the shooter was dead or that this was limited to one shooter, Trump got up quickly raised his fist to the crowd – a crowd that also had not panicked, and shouted “Fight, Fight, Fight” – the iconic image of him doing so with blood on his face and the american flag overhead is something you can not buy.

      Even Zuckerburg thought it was “bad ass”, and has withdrawn all money from the 2024 election.
      Conversely Musk has endorsed Trump and is putting almost 50M a month into getting Trump elected.

      The Secret Service incompetence has inspired all kinds of 2nd or 3rd shooter theories, or even democrat complicity claims.
      While very very few outright beleive that Democrats of the deep state deliberately tried to assassinate Trump.
      It is pretty easy to beleive that they were perfectly happy to make it much easier for that to happen.

      In hearings yesterday we saw a unanimous BiPartisan consensus that we have not seen in anything that the Secret Service F$%Kd up and that heads MUST roll. Conversely outside of Washington the far left has stupidly and vocally been expressing its dismay that Crooks was a poor shot. Destiny appeared on Peirce Morgan to discuss the assassination and could not even bring himself to condemn the attempt.
      Morgan gave him a massive amount of rope to allow him to hang himself – which he did.

      You seem to have no clue how big a deal the assassination attempt is.

      The GOP is jubilant. Democrats despondant.
      The election was over before this – the question is only how big a tsunami this will be.

      The democratic party is openly fractured – even if leaders are not publicly stabbing each other in the back, they are obviously doing so privately, and they obviously have no unity and know that 2024 is a disaster. The question is how bad a disaster.

      Democrats need Jesus to return from the desert to bring them together – but there is no democratic jesus. They have pushed their most charasmatic people out of the party.

    6. Of course some republican leaders are unhappy about Vance. republican leaders and republican voters are not the same.

      Many democrat leaders wish they had a candidate other than Harris – as do many democrat voters.

      No god did not save Trump – though frankly his survival is a miracle. At 100 yards a merely competent shooter with a poor rifle should be able to put 5 rounds in a 2″ group. Crooks put 8 rounds into an oval 5′ wide by 3′ high. with Trump somehow in a donut hole in the center.
      While the shot that got his ear was millimeters away from fatal 7 other shots were very close. There is an excellent modeling of the shooting on Youtube using the fixed point Crooks shot from and the video and other evidence of each bullets impact to plot the trajectory of each one.
      Trump was in the center of a hail of bullets.

      Did God save Trump – I do not think God works that way. But it was by any measure a miracle that Trump survived.

      1. “At 100 yards a merely competent shooter with a poor rifle should be able to put 5 rounds in a 2″ “

        Why do you people keep saying rhis??

        That is a lie. A poor rifle has an MOA of more than 2”.

        Do you know what that means?

        That means the gun itself is only capable of a 2” group. You get that? Even if it were from a rest, with zero OTHER VARIABLES, the could be a variance of 2” between one shot and the next.

        Add in wind drift. Do you know what that is? For a 5.56 -at 130 yards, it can be as much as 2” with a 10mph wind

        Now factor in that he climbed up on a roof, belly crawled into position, had people screaming that he was up there, and the adrenaline of attempting to not only kill someone, but someone being “protected”.

        He had at least two if not 3 attempts to make the shot, and he missed all of them.

        Hardly a miracle.

        The miracle is that the idiot didnt aim for trumps right nipple.

    7. You should stop listening to the MSM. We, the MAGA (Make America Great Again for your info) are not scare of anyone running for the other party. The only thing that we are concern of is the cheating that the Democrats muster in all of our elections for the last few decades. FYI, God is with all of us.

      1. Anonymous: explain WHY there is NO evidence of any widespread cheating or fraud? Explain WHY Trump started screaming about “fraud” even before Election Day because he was losing in the polls? Explain HOW Democrats have been cheating in elections when, in every state, ballots are monitored from the time they are delivered to the Clerk of Court or similar officer, before they are cast and until after they are counted by BOTH Democrats and Republicans present at all times? Just HOW have Democrats been “cheating” all of these “last few decades”? I

        1. Its called ignoring the standards for signatures on mail in ballots.

          And being 60 feet away is not being “present” you douchebag

          1. HOW does what you claim, even if it is true, PROVE widespread voter fraud or that Trump won, when the polls said he would lose? Where were “standards ignored” for mail in ballots?

        2. The courts have prevented it.

          When has tabulation of election results been halted in history.

          1. Pooblius: Ask Al Gore–he didn’t even get ONE recount because Republicans blocked it–and the vote difference, in the State of Florida, was 800 votes. Trump had dozens of recounts, audits, forensic audits and over 60 lawsuits–he STILL lost.

    8. Republicans are not desparate, they are united and joyous, and they are having fun.
      They are especially having fun poking at the self inflicted wounds of democrats.

      The mess the left, the msm, democrats have made for themselves, could not happen to more deserving people.

      Neocons are questioning Vance – they had hoped Trump would pick someone like Hailey.

      But Trump knows he is picking a heir.

      I like Vance,
      I like Trump.
      I do not think either are perfect.,
      Absolutely there are people I would vote for over either.

      There are a few others I would have prefered Trump pick.
      But Vance is still a good choice.

      But for Biden’s self destruction at the debate and the assassination attempt and botched Secret Service handling – I think Trump would have picked someone different.

      But Trump now sees winning as certain, and is more concerned about preserving the MAGA movement.
      While there are people who are more MAGA than Vance, most are NOT as politically savy and durable.
      DeSantis might be equivalent to Harris, but Both Trump and DeSantis are from Florida and the constitution requires the president and VP can not be from the same state.

      1. But for the Florida problem, I would have preferred DeSantis, but I have no problem with Vance. I think politically DeSantis might have had a little more appeal to the ever diminishing Bush/Never Trumper wing of the party. He is definitely not a neocon, but I would describe him as Trump light. I think the neocon wing could have come back into the tent and saved face with DeSantis. I don’t see that happening with Vance.

    9. “You can see the desperation in the DJT camp.”

      Dennis, try and connect with what’s called REALITY. Even Zelenskyy said publicy, “We must stop the war” because he met with Trump and he knows who is likely the next leader of the Free World. Israel’s Netanyahu met with Trump. Many world leaders have met with Trump. Who is meeting with Biden?
      What Dems did over this past week reeks of desperation and implementing their plan.
      The desperation is coming ENTIRELY from the dark side, also called ‘the Democrats’…. who have tried everything to stop Trump. Now all they have is CHEATING and STEALING the election. Beware.

  5. You want to talk about the primary voting process that handed Biden the nomination? You want to now defend the authenticity and legitimacy of those 14 million votes?

    I’ve been arguing for months that public decisionmaking is only as legitimate as the information the voters are receiving. It’s about “the consent of the governed”, and how that ideal is totally undermined when public consent is obtained through trickery and deceit. Isn’t that what happened?

    I’ve been arguing that public frauds pushed out for political gain only have to work temporarily up until the voting is complete — after that, the truth spilling out (Biden’s dementia) matters much less, since the infowarfare achieved its goal realtime goal — renominating Biden/Harris without any serious challenge. The Democratic Primaries were just such an exercise in deceptive infowarfare assisted by sympathetic media.

    I see it as faulty analysis bordering on counter-fraud to now aver that those 14 million votes represent the true will of the Democratic voters. They represent the craftily defrauded and “nudged” will of the voters. Are we to pretend that there’s no difference between informed consent and being duped into giving consent?

    That makes it all the more alarming that legal pundits like JT argue for expansive notions of free speech which allow political campaigns and sympathetic media to shape public opinion through fabrication and cover-up.

    I’ve been arguing for months that a free people cannot self-govern under such a sloppy, irresponsible departure from standards of public candor, and that regrettable public decisions (blunders) are the consequence. And now, the increased likelihood of Kamala Harris becoming President bodes profound consequences that have yet to be felt.

    When you ask yourself, “How did we get here?”, let’s be blunt: The Biden campaign and supporters in journalism successfully deceived the world about Joe’s mental decline the past year, just long enough to get through primary season. The consent of the 14 million is highly dubious in retrospect.

    And that is what we can expect to continue until we start facing up to deceptive political infowarfare. The first step is questioning whether it qualifies as “free speech” — whether or not duping the public is compatible with principles of self-government. Based on common sense, I say it’s not.

    1. pbinca – either you belive in freedom or you do not.

      There is no such thing as voters are free to choose as they wish – but only if I get to control what they get to hear.

      You point out the semi-successful concealment of Biden’s dementia. What success that had was through SUPRESSION of free speech.
      Those who bought this were NOT convinced by the claims Biden was fine, but by the somewhat successful supression of the voices saying that he was not.

      Further – as evidenced by Biden’s collapse – the scenario that you fear is NOT sustainable.

      As Goebels noted – “the Big Lie” must be repeated often, it must have the force of the state behind it, and it must have near perfect supression of the truth.

      This is NOT sustainable. The claims that “this was the best Biden ever” ultimately collapsed – and that collapse has damaged all those associated with that lie.

      It is not free speech that we need to fire – “the Big Lie” is ultimately unsustainable.
      It is the SUPRESSION of free speech that is most dangerous – as it can significantly delay the exposure of “The big lie”.

      1. Why do you MAGAts keep lying about Joe Biden having dementia? He has proven since the debate issue, by multiple speeches, by hosting the NATO summit and in appearances that he is just fine. It’s just like the “Biden Crime Family” lie that MAGA media keeps repeating–even though there’s no evidence and all evidence proves otherwise. Biden didn’t “collapse”–he stepped aside for the good of America–to protect it against Trump and Project 2025. Now, the latest MAGA conspiracy theory is that Democrats have been hiding Biden’s “dementia”–so, how did they do that at the NATO summit? And, trying to turn Trump’s “Big Lie” into something Democrats have done won’t work, either.

        1. Joe has Parkinsons disease. Period.

          You’re an idiot.

          If he had performed well since the debate, he wouldnt be gone now.
          He couldnt even remember the name of that “black man” he appointed as Secretary of Defense”

          1. I have always found the ranting that Biden does not have dementia idiocy.

            Dementia is a good excuse for his total incompetence as president.

            It is far worse if the mess he has made was intentional.

          2. Well, first of all, there’s no proof that Biden has Parkinson’s disease, but even if he did, that is a MOVEMENT disorder–not a COGNITIVE disorder. There CAN be cognitive changes in the end stages of Parkinson’s, but not everyone has cognitive changes. Actor Michael J. Fox has Parkinson’s–is he demented?

            1. Parkinsons related dementia can occur at any point. Where do you get your nonsense?

              Michael J Fox isnt 80 years old, ya stupid fvck
              Fox doesnt have any of the several other symptoms that Joe has either. Does MJF walk and stand with his hands out in front of him? Does he have episodes of confusion? Does it take him 8 seconds to raise his sunglasses to his head?

              Get a grip.

              Joe hasnt been “resting” at that beach house for 1/3 of his presidency. He has been getting treatment for his PARKINSONS. Where they dont keep a VISITORS LOG.
              It is late stage. I predict he will be dead within 2 years.

            2. Gigi, are you always this sure of yourself even though you know squat? Your logic above (If A, then B) is faulty. If Michael J. Fox doesn’t have dementia, it doesn’t mean Biden doesn’t have dementia. It is almost certain that Biden has a form of Parkinson’s disease, and one of the problems associated with Parkinson’s disease is dementia.

              Why are you so ignorant of the world around you?

              1. “Almost certain“? Proven by WHAT EVIDENCE ? The lies you absorb and believe from MAGA media are just that— lies. You spout the slop they feed you like it’s factual— like the “Biden Crime Family” lie, the “Joe has dementia” lie, like the “Russia, Russia, Russia “ story and the biggest whopper of all— the Big Lie “ that started an insurrection.

                1. “Proven by WHAT EVIDENCE ? “

                  Look up the definition of Parkinson’s disease. He fits the criteria, and some treating doctors are specialists in that area of medicine.

                  Now, go and prove what I have said to be wrong. Try not to look stupid doing so.

                  1. Are YOU a physician? What CRITERIA does he “fit”? I don’t have to “prove” what you said is wrong–YOU have to prove you are correct, and you can’t do that–which was my point exactly.

                    1. Gigi, do you know how to use Google? Do you bother looking at all the news rather than the dishonest portion that leaves you ignorant?

                      I don’t have to prove anything to you. You are a proven ignoramus and a liar. Like many others on this blog, I have a reputation that we protect by not being rash and stupid.

                      People provide you with facts from the left, right and the government, and you still maintain a host of silly ideas. No one should try to feed information to you and a few others like New George and Dennis. You lie no matter what and are too stupid to realize your reputation is permanently damaged.

                    2. S. Meyer,

                      I posted weeks ago the types of Parkinson’s Disease. There are 2 categories: with tremors, without tremors. Both have neurodegenerative disorder.

                      NB: Gigi = Peter Shill = Svelaz = Dennis = new George = Wally = bug, et al

                      Parkinson’s disease (PD) is a common neurodegenerative disorder, characterized by motor and non-motor symptoms. Dementia is one of the most relevant non-motor symptoms considering its functional affect on PD patients’ activities of daily living and family members’ wellbeing. Cognitive abnormalities in PD are heterogeneous and reliable biomarkers to detect patients at risk for dementia early on remain to be identified.

                      Biundo R, Weis L, Fiorenzato E, Antonini A. Cognitive Rehabilitation in Parkinson’s Disease: Is it Feasible? Arch Clin Neuropsychol. 2017 Nov 1;32(7):840-860. doi: 10.1093/arclin/acx092.

                      Parkinson Disease

                      History and Physical

                      …Although tremor is a prominent and early symptom of PD, it is not always present and is not a necessary feature for diagnosis.

                      Slowness, or bradykinesia, on the other hand, is a core feature of PD. Patients will notice it takes them longer to do simple tasks, their walking is slower, and their ability to respond to threats is compromised. …

                      Rigidity is the third prominent feature of the examination. Patients appear stiff and find it difficult to rise out of a chair without support. …

                      …Gait disorder is not an early feature of PD but is frequently described as it is easy to recognize and cinches the diagnosis in later stages.

                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK470193/

        2. The fact that you continually refer to MAGA supporters as MAGAts shows just how low you will go, instead of making fair arguments. It is the same deadbeat Gigi, day in and day out, with the same message, not worth our time.

          1. She is completely removed from reality. Thats why she uses those terms and insults people in other ways, while whining about being called names.

        3. Gigi, Joes diagnosis does not matter. Frankly it is WORSE if he is competent.
          Joes massively disasterous prsidency – which Harris owns too, is quasi excusable if Joes marbles are slipping.

          If as you claim he is medically competent – then he is just a failed moron.

          You say he stepped aside for the good of the country – how so ? Is that would the best person for the job does ?
          Biden stepped aside because he was FORCED to by nearly the entire democratic party.
          They did so because he was going to lose – BADLY and because he was going to take the party down with him.
          Because the danger of a GOP sweep – House, SEnate and WH loomed large.

          Why was he going to lose ? Many many reasons – including he is mentally incompetent. Regardless, while that is likely the final straw motivating Democrats to push him out. it is still just one of many reasons.

          At the moment is looks like Harris is the Democratic nomineee – but Obama has not given her his endorsement.
          Further while Clinton has, there is jocking for position going on between the Clinton Camp and the Obama camp over control of the Democratic party and Harris appears to be a pawn in that fight – so I would not presume this is over.

          The Biden Crime family is no joke. There is more on the Biden’s than on Menedez, and Biden has been corrupt for far longer.
          There is plenty of evidence. But very little will be done about it – Because republicans are not the vile and nasty creatures that Democrats are. Biden will be gone in January and Republicans will leave him alone.

          Of course democrats have been hiding Biden’s failure – that is not a secret.
          It is NOT the GOP that FORCED Biden out., It is the democrat elites.

          As to Biden’s recent public appearances – they have all been disasters.
          Biden at NATO was terrifying.

          1. “Massively disasterous presidency”–on WHAT planet? Biden has been one of the most-successful presidents in US history. Biden has gotten passed more legislation to benefit the majority of Americans than any president in recent history. Trump boasted about “Infrastructure Week”– Biden got it done. Biden got COVID under control. Trump threw out the pandemic playbook Obama left him and lied about COVID going away when the weather got warm and said it was no worse than the flu, even though it is 10Xs more deadly. 83% of Trump’s tax cuts benefitted the upper 1% of wage earners. Biden has gotten manufacturing to return to America. Biden got the Chips Act passed, insulin capped at $35 per month and prescription drug costs are being brought under control. Our economy is booming, inflation is being brought under control, unemployment is at a 50 year low. Biden pulled together NATO allies for a united front against Putin and Finland and Sweden joined. Trump said that Putin could “do whatever the hell he wanted” with Ukraine, called Putin’s invasion “genius” and wants to pull the US out of NATO, which will de-stabilize Europe and could lead to WW III. Trump was impeached, twice, and started an insurrection when he lost by lying to his fans. He is a convicted criminal and faces dozens of other criminal charges. No matter how many times Mark Levin, Jesse Waters and Sean Hannity claim that Biden is incompetent–it’s still a LIE.

            if there’s “Biden Crime Family”–where’s the proof? Why haven’t Republicans proven it, with their hearings, witnesses, etc?

            Trump’s fake presidency was an unmitigated disaster. He took a booming economy and turned it into the worst recession since the Great Depression. He alienated our NATO and EU allies and sidled up to murderous dictators like Kim Jong Un and Putin. He enacted tariffs that resulted in shortages of consumer goods and computer chips. His disasterous deal with the Taliban set the stage for the messy withdrawal–drew down troops from 14,000 to 2,500, turned loose 5,000 Taliban without arranging for any air or land base of operations from which to evacuate people. He should have gotten people out before doing any of this.

            Trump is a convicted criminal, adjudicated fraudster, adjudicated sexual assaulter, thief of classified documents and an arrogant, xenophobic, racist liar.

            The Republican Party used to stand for family values, honesty, integrity and patriotism–before it became the Cult of Trump. Americans are tuned in to Project 2025–and we don’t like it. Republicans can try to lie and downplay Project 2025, but it has Trump’s fingerprints all over it–140 of the people who drafted it came from his administration. It is a plot for an imperial presidency that would give unprecedented control to the occupant of the White House, allow the president to use the FBI and DOJ to get revenge against anyone the president doesn’t like–which Trump has promised to do –and take away protections for civil servants, who take an oath to the Constitution and are paid by taxpayers, if they refuse to be used as political pawns. All abortions banned, IVF gone, contraception gone, Medicaid, food stamps and lunch for needy kids–cut way back. The NOAA would be dissolved because Republicans don’t like them reporting on climate change, so weather forecasting would be privatized and under the president’s control, and no more mention of climate change. Political idealogues would over-ride trained scientists in agency decision making. Public broadcasting would be defunded, and no more student debt relief for Public Service Loan Foregiveness–for nurses working in public service jobs, police officers, firefighters and teachers. Oh, and pornography would be criminialized, too. Yeah, Americans don’t want any of these things.

            1. Biden didn’t get shit passed. Can Biden introduce a bill? Can he vote on it?

              How much of Bidens $6T bull shit passed cloture in the Senate? Do you know what that is?

              9 percent inflation

              8 percent mortgage rates

              FAIL

              1. Here’s a basic fact: When Trump was stinking up our White House, we were in a RECESSION, there was high unemployment, kids couldn’t go to school, people who could do so, worked from home, and no vacations. Because of low demand for fuel, refineries went off line. People weren’t buying homes. Biden rapidly turned all of that around, but supply didn’t immediately catch up with demand.

                1. Gigi, Trump created an excellent economy until Covid, but he restarted the economy before he left. Biden screwed the economy up. The numbers exist on the government website, but you never see them. That is stupid.

                2. Here’s another basic fact: WHen Gigi started stinking up this blog, we were in a RECESSION, there was high unemployment, kids couldn’t go to school, people who could do so, worked from home, and no vacations. Because of low demand for fuel, refineries went off line. People weren’t buying homes.
                  Then Biden tried to take credit for the NATURAL, EXPECTED, INEVITABLE recovery after the pandemic.

                3. You just told us all that he has one of the best presidential records ever, and that he doesn’t have dementia or Parkinsons, then why step aside? Why was he so unable to convince everyone of his utter greatness? If he wasn’t corrupt, why go to duch great lengths to conceal your involvement in your son’s business deals? Why do you think the big money donors were shutting off the funds? Why do you think he’s down in every swing state by a decent amount? Just a bad salesman? Messaging was off? People just don’t get him?Maybe, people see the string of failures he’s had on his watch and blame him. Maybe people don’t think a $1tril spending billl was a great achievement.
                  It seems a lot of folks just don’t see things like you do.

            2. Oh, and pornography would be criminialized, too.

              Not to worry, Gigi / Peter Shill, Debbie Does Dallas still would have been made. What was your favorite scene? I bet Bambi Woods really gave you a rise

              🤣

              1. Years ago, the SCOTUS ruled that there is a First Amendment right to view pornography, provided it didn’t involve children and wasn’t displayed to children. Project 2025 would change that and outlaw pornography. I don’t watch or possess pornography but I respect the rights of others to exercise their right to do so without the government dictating what they are allowed to see.

                Estovir: you need to see your pastor. I doubt he would approve of your posts, and I’m truly confused about you posting an inspirational homily one day and the kind of post above.

                1. I admit it, Gigi. Project 2025 wants pornography out of the schools. Incredibly, a clean-cut girl like you would wish for pornography to be pushed in the schools, but I didn’t say that. Maybe the title of the movie should be named Gigi Does Dallas!

                  Project 2025 is not the Republican platform and doesn’t represent Trump. It is independent of both of them. But you knew that already and were trying to pull the wool over the eyes of others. That is not nice, and neither is pornography in the school system.

                  1. No, S. Meyer: Project 2025 would enforce the Comstock Act that bans ALL pornography–not just in “schools”. I am not “pushing” for anything other than the right of adults to decide what to read or watchwithout having the content dictated to them by the government.

                    Republicans are LYING about Project 2025 not being their agenda because people found out about it and don’t like it. It DOES represent Trump- he has espoused most of the radical things it calls for–like firing career civil servants, politicians for refusing to take orders from politicians, taking over the NOAA, elimination of the Department of Education, weaponizing the FBI and DOJ, concentration camps and mass deportations, tax cuts for the wealthiest, more tariffs, all abortions, contraception and IVF banned, and more power to the POTUS.

                    1. “Project 2025 would enforce the Comstock Act that bans ALL pornography–not just in “schools.”

                      I didn’t see that in their book, but since you did, quote Project 2025’s words, and then we can hash it out. In any event, Project 2025 is not Trump’s playbook. It is from a different place, and as usual, being ignorant, you are using it as a diversion.

                      I have already provided the blog with 20 statements that seem to be from Trump. None of what you say is in there, but I will say that a Trump government will not force children to be abused by leftist pedophiles.

                      You make many ignorant comments at the end of your typical rant.

                      “it calls for–like firing career civil servants, politicians for refusing to take orders from politicians,”

                      We need to start firing civil servants who act politically or don’t follow the rules and regulations set by the politicians in Congress and the President. You just saw the catastrophe with the Secret Service. If I were President, I would have fired her immediately. You would have kept her on. Fortunately, she had the minimum of sense that doesn’t exist in the Democratic executive branch. She quit.

                      All the other issues have been discussed in the past, and facts have been provided, but you can’t debate them. Instead, you take your slogans and shout them like the crazy woman you are.

            3. President Biden did not put the American people first.
              Joe Biden put Biden first, just as he has always done.
              Biden lied and deceived American people.
              Jill Biden lied and deceived the American people.
              Joe & Jill Biden continue to lie and deceive the American people.
              They are corrupt, SELF-SERVING grifters.
              Biden deserves nothing but SCORN and CONTEMPT from the American people.
              Same for his pathetically awful wife.

            4. Gigi – even Zelenskyy knows Trump will likely be the next POTUS.
              Z has finally made public statements suggesting that it is time to “end the war.” He knows what’s coming.

              PEACE. NO more Biden’s Endless WARS.

              1. Biden didn’t start the Russian invasion–Trump’s weakness and deference to ex-KGB agent Putin, and his trashing of NATO emboldened Putin. Trump praised Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as “genius” and “wonderful”. Tell that to the dead Ukrainians. Zelenskyy has never said anything resembling the notion that he thinks Trump could win. The “war” never should have started. Trump would let Putin keep parts of Ukraine and would pull support for Ukraine and NATO, all of which would further embolden Putin, who has publicly said he intends to re-take the countries formerly part of the USSR, many of which are our NATO allies. Trump would refuse to honor our commitment to defend NATO allies, all of which would likely be the start of WW III–all because Russia helped Trump cheat in 2016 and Trump admires murderous dictators because he’d like to be one.

                1. You have dishonestly taken Trump’s comments out of context. He was threatening non-alliance based on NON-PAYMENT by some members who nonetheless wanted paying members to jump to their defense. Following public statement of his position, several countries paid up.

                  1. Trump never did, and still does not, understand how NATO works. Member countries pledge a percentage of their GDP to spend on their OWN military budget. No one “paid up” anything–some countries increased their OWN military budgets. His insulting rhetoric that implied that NATO allies were deadbeats that he bullied into “paying up” is just plain factually wrong. The money doesn’t leave the NATO ally’s country. There’s no “debtor-creditor” situation involved at all. None of our allies “owed” money to NATO.

                    1. “paying up” specifically referred to the COMMITMENT made by NATO members to dedicate 2% of GDP to their defense, in return to the COMMITMENT of defense aid by other members.
                      No one said they had to pay NATO. Idiot.

        4. To say that Biden “stepped aside for the good of America” is beyond ridiculous.
          Biden has NEVER done a thing in his 50 years in politics that was good for America.
          Everything Biden has done in his political career was for the GOOD of the BIDENS.
          No one F’s with a Biden. Haven’t you heard?

    2. Are Biden voters going to be pissed – because their primary votes were made meaningless by democrat elites ?
      Certainly some will and others wont. We do not know how large those numbers are or how angry they will be.

      Though that is not what matters – Democrats have made it clear they are complete hypocrites about “overturning elections”

      Lawfare failed, the assassination attempt failed, propping up Dementia Joe failed.

      What other rabbits do democrats have to pull out of their hat ?

    3. You are a lawyer?
      It’s astounding how little common sense logic you possess.

  6. Tucker Carlson and Jack Posobiec React to the Trump Shooting and the Coup Against Biden

  7. Just posting this here as fyi. Something’s going on. Buckle up. ——>

    _________________________________________

    Laura Loomer
    @LauraLoomer

    🚨

    BREAKING:

    🚨Joe Biden is dying and final preparations are being made for him.🚨🚨

    He was supposed to leave Delaware today, but his health has deteriorated.

    Due to his accelerated decline, Joe Biden has cancelled nine trips that were scheduled for the next two weeks.

    Biden is expected to leave his beach home in Rehoboth, Delaware on Tuesday afternoon and arrive back at the White House at 2:30 pm, although that could be changed to Wednesday, July 24th. It all depends on how much he continues to decline…

    Biden has been dying, and he is dying rather quickly. This is why Kamala flew to Delaware today and why Biden’s White House Chief of Staff Jeff Zients called for an emergency meeting and call with all White House staff today.

    The medical emergency Joe Biden had on July 5th, 2024 on Air Force One that I exclusively reported almost killed him. His time left is limited.

    Biden’s staffers and his family are holding on for dear life right now.

    Kamala Harris will be made President very soon….

    Bookmark this tweet.”

    9:59 PM · Jul 22, 2024

    1. “Laura Loomer
      @LauraLoomer

      🚨BIDEN IS DYING AND HAS STARTED QUIETLY DELEGATING HIS AUTHORITY AS PRESIDENT TO THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE🚨

      In an act that is further evidence that Joe Biden is dying and @KamalaHarris will be President soon, today while everyone was distracted by the @GOPoversight hearing with @SecretService Director Kim Cheatle, and news of Joe Biden dropping out, today Biden started quietly delegating his authority as President of the United States to the Secretary of the Treasury and Secretary of State.

      Biden is dying, and he’s dying fast.

      Get ready for President Kamala Harris!

      BOOKMARK THIS TWEET! 👇🏻”

    2. @LauraLoomer

      🚨EVIDENCE OF MORE DELEGATIONS OF AUTHORITY AND MORE TRANSFER OF POWER BY @JoeBiden
      FOLLOWING HIS MEDICAL EMERGENCY ON AIR FORCE ONE ON JULY 5th, 2024🚨

      I first reported @JoeBiden had a medical emergency on Air Force One on July 5th, 2024.

      People went crazy on me and the media lied and ran cover for Biden and said my reporting was fake.

      Ever since that medical emergency, Biden’s staff and his advisors at the White House have been accelerating delegations of his authority and quietly transferring power because he’s dying, and soon @KamalaHarris will be President.

      🚨🚨See receipts below:🚨🚨

      This memorandum on delegation of authority took place on July 9th, 2024, just 4 days after Biden’s medical emergency.

      MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE

      THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

      THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY

      THE DIRECTOR OF THE
      OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT
      AND BUDGET

      Receipts 👇🏻
      https://whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2024/07/09/memorandum-on-delegation-of-functions-and-authorities-under-sections-1333-1342-1352-and-1353-of-the-national-defense-authorization-act-for-fiscal-year-2024/…
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      1. NOTE: Internet search results say this “medical emergency on AF1” is fake news.
        But since the Democrats are lying about literally everything, while keeping their voters in the dark, and deceiving the entire country, I tend to believe Loomer’s reporting.
        Since the Biden White House is doing NOTHING to reassure the public about ANYTHING, I tend to believe Loomer’s reporting.
        Since there have been NO press conferences re the attempted assassination of Trump, NO information given, NO updates, NO nothing — as if they want to memory hole the event, I tend to believe Laura Loomer’s reporting.
        They tried to kill Trump. They failed. Now things are moving very quickly.
        The media is lying. The White House is lying. Biden and his family are lying. Pelosi is lying. Kamala is lying. The FBI is lying. Secret Service director is lying.
        Up is down. Down is up. PRAY for our country and President Trump.
        Do not GAF about Biden.

        1. More sources reporting Biden’s medical emergency DID happen:

          @jenvanlaar

          Reporters at @RedState have also confirmed this story with @LVMPD sources.

          An additional source (not a medical person) in a position to know tells me that Biden had stroke-like symptoms (but did not elaborate as to what those were), but when the doc traveling w/Biden determined it wasn’t a “full stroke” they could treat on AF1 en route to Andrews, the motorcade diverted to the airport.

          According to this source, it’s believed Biden had a transient ischemic attack (TIA)

          ——————————

          Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.today
          @JordanSchachtel

          Exclusive: President Biden suffered an undisclosed medical emergency during his time in Las Vegas, police sources say
          https://dossier.today/p/exclusive-president-biden-suffered…

          Exclusive: President Biden suffered an undisclosed medical emergency during his time in Las Vegas, police sources say

          Exclusive: President Biden suffered an undisclosed medical emergency during his time in Las Vegas,…

          From dossier.today
          10:38 PM · Jul 22, 2024

          1. More reporting on Biden’s deteriorating health —–>

            @charliekirk11

            “Got a weird lead on a story that people should look into. I got a call from a source close to Las Vegas Metro. The official story was that Joe Biden’s trip was cut short last week due to COVID. However, according to this source, US Secret Service informed LV Metro that there was an emergency situation involving Joe Biden and to close necessary streets so that POTUS could be transported immediately to University Medical, which they began to do in earnest. Then, mysteriously, there was a stand down order and the USSS informed local Vegas PD that they were going to “medivac” POTUS to Johns Hopkins, which they presumed meant fly him back east ASAP. Apparently the rumor mill in the police department was that Joe Biden was dying or possibly already dead.

            I didn’t think too much about this lead, seemed too wild to be true, but given that Joe Biden has been out of public sight for days and dropped out of the race via an 𝕏 post, and his brother James indicated health was a factor, I’m beginning to grow more curious if COVID or something else has been more serious than reported. If anyone with LV Metro has information, please email Freedom@CharlieKirk.com. I want to hear if there is more to the official story than what they’re telling us.”

            11:54 AM · Jul 22, 2024
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          2. @jenvanlaar

            I don’t know who needs to hear this, but the medical event Joe Biden had in Las Vegas was on July 17, not July 5.

        2. When you precede an accusation with “They”, especially one as serious as plotting assassination of a former President and candidate, please be specific about who you are accusing. I honestly don’t think professionals would tap a 20-year-old loser with poor shooting skills to do the job, do you? Professionals are about getting the job done. Sorry to throw cold logic at your fantasy conspiracy theory.

          1. pbinca – I beleive the attempt on Trump is MOSTLY exactly what it appears – a seriously mentally disturbed young man provided an oportunity by a reckless secret service – that is complicit to the extent that they did not care – possibly even deliberately did not care enough to do their job.

            That alone is damaging to democrats.
            Add to that those like Destiny and his ilk who either refuse to condemn this or openly lament that Crooks missed and the damage is compounded.
            Add to that a known Irainian plot to assassinate Trump with the Deep state doing nothing to thwart that – no heightened security, no notifying Trump.
            Worse still.

            Is that all democrats ? Most ? no. Too many ? yes.

            Are there likely to be theories of multiple shooters and a deep state conspiracy ? Absolutely,
            The piss poor job that Secret Service did is easy to spin into intentional.

          2. “your fantasy conspiracy theory”…..

            okay, fair enough. Let’s call it the Deep State, or the “Democrat Machine” or the “Intelligence” community, or “The Blob”…..would those terms help clarify for you, that yes, “they” did indeed try to kill Trump.
            If you watched what happened at the PA rally and actually believe that was the work of a mentally ill 20-year-old loner who slipped under their radar…..and *not an INSIDE JOB* …. or that those ‘mistakes’ can be attributed to a combination of: “incompetence” or “oops, our bad, we goofed up this time but it won’t happen again,” …..then maybe you need to go back to sleep.

            1. You are buying into their “lone shooter” story? He was ‘radicalized’ by the media? And tried to pull this off on his own? LOL.

              Think about the “incompetence” around the assassination attempt this way: a “heat-shield for her bosses, BOTH NAMED and UNNAMED” —->

              “Hypothesis: Director Cheatle isn’t incompetent. She’s good at her real job: heat-shield for her bosses, both named and unnamed. She gets the buck to stop with her by creating an impression of preternatural ineptitude so that “voices of reason” can silence “conspiracy theorists.”
              @BretWeinstein

              In other words: it was an INSIDE JOB.

              1. I am a simple man. I tend to believe the most obvious circumstances. I have no reason to believe Cheatle is incompetent. She was a career USSS agent with many years of experience on presidential details. She half-assed Trump’s detail on purpose. Her answers were simply too nonsensical to think otherwise. The roof slant was too great. No recordings exist of radio calls. It sounded a lot like Comey’s FBI tesimony. It either came from the Biden handlers or Mayorkas. If Trump had been hit, she would have been a hero to the left. But when you miss the king, you lose everything.

          3. “especially one as serious as plotting assassination of a former President and candidate”

            Yes, and how do you explain the radio silence from the Secret Service over this past week since the assassination attempt took place? Not one press conference. No regular updates. Not forthcoming with information provided to the media. No seriousness displayed BY the Biden adminstration officials responsible. Director Cheatle never even went to the sight herself! She went to Aspen for a “conference” instead. Stonewalling every day. Lying. Stonewalling. NO TRANSPARENCY WHATSOEVER. Why not?

            Because it was an INSIDE JOB.

          4. “When you precede an accusation with “They”, especially one as serious as plotting assassination of a former President and candidate, please be specific about who you are accusing. ”
            Why ?
            It is beyond any doubt there was an assassination atempt.
            It is however NOT known with certainty that Crooks was in it alone.
            Even if he was it is not certain whether the Secret service leadership was merely incredibly incompetent or hopefully and intentionally reckless.

            There are MANY unanswered questions. My quess is a few will NEVER be answered.

            Does that mean we should not look ?

            We now KNOW the Iranians were plotting to assassinate Trump. But Trump was not made aware and the SS did not increase security – if anything they weakened it.

            Further we have plenty of left wing nuts on Social media lamenting the fact that Crooks missed.

            It is possible and probable that Crooks acted alone.

            It is NOT at this point an undisputed fact.

            There are an enormous number of people who would semi secretly be happy to see Trump assassinated.
            There are far too many who OPENLY want Trump assassinated.

            Democrats have a tendency to try to DO all the things they TALK about.

            It is perfectly reasonable to beleive there is a “they” even though that may never be proven.

          5. “I honestly don’t think professionals would tap a 20-year-old loser with poor shooting skills to do the job, do you? Professionals are about getting the job done. Sorry to throw cold logic at your fantasy conspiracy theory.”

            The argument is that Crooks was the Patsy. There have been multiple audio analysts who have claimed that there are from 3-4 different shooters at 3 different ranges shooting 203 different caliber bullets.

            I doubt that, I think ultimately that can be proven or disproven otherwise. It is highly likely that every single bullet fired will be recovered There should be the bullet that =Killed Crooks and multiple bullets fired by Crooks. A third calibur is a problem
            Failure to find all bullets screams coverup.

            Right now many of us do not trust Wray,. Biden, Garland or the Secret Service to investigate this. For very good reason

      2. Jennifer Van Laar
        @jenvanlaar

        Only related to that particular law.

        __________________________________

        KRYSTAL 🐊 🇺🇸
        @MsBradsher

        🚨 President Biden’s presidential duties delegated to the Department’s of State and Treasury.

  8. For any night owls intending to stay up, I renew my earlier recommendation of checking out the Matt Taibbi-Walter Kirn discussion from a few hours ago regarding all the latest; fast-changing developments, including the debate about whether Joetard is or isn’t still alive:

  9. Congratulations Dems, you replaced the brain dead old white guy with the only other Presidential candidate to poll lower than “literally Hitler”

    1. Until the running mate is picked the Campaign sign reads

      SHIT SHOW
      Under New Management

  10. I realize this is a relatively minor point but if Biden resigns or he’s removed per 25A, then I guess Trump will be running to be 48 and not 47, right?

    On a whole different topic, check out these fireworks from a Polish member of the European Parliament. She must’ve seen Pelosi’s tear-up-the-speech stunt:

    https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1815579669493653620

  11. I notice that every time Jim Jordan is interviewed on Hannity, he is always still at the capitol. Thats after 9PM Eastern.

    His district is lucky to have him.

  12. Nancy Pelosi You won’t get a Presidential library

    Joe Biden Do you think I care? Have you seen me try to read?

    Nancy Pelosi we will pull the plug on the campaign funds

    Joe Biden Nobody F’s with a Biden

    Nancy Pelosi thats where you’re wrong. We have the account numbers, Joe

    Joe Biden Where do I sign?

    The next day Nancy tweets

    Nancy Pelosi Joe Biden is such a Patriot to put the country first!

  13. Its official.

    The Secret Service Director was NOT the first person fired in the Biden Administration.

    Joe Biden was.

  14. We know what the carrot was. What was the stick that Pelosi and Obama used to get Joe to cave?

    Simple. They were prepared to reveal which doctors Joe has been getting treatment from in Rehobeth his entire Presidency.

    1. Keep it up guys, Every time you try to shame Kamala she gains a few hundred women votes. Women are sick and tired of A holes like you and will vote en mass to rid this country once and for all of the likes of JD and his cult master Felon trump.

      1. I’m amused at your stereotyping of women voters. I’d chew glass before I would vote for her.

      2. She has nowhere to go but up? Problem is, she sux.

        She is way behind Trump in Georgia among woman and minorities. If she cant win them, what chance does she have?

        I dont know how you think there are even a couple hundred women at this site, but I think that proves you are deluded.

        My girlfriend voted for Hillary and Biden. She says she wouldnt vote for word salad sallie if she was the only candidate.

        See, smart voters dont vote against their interests because of identity.

      3. Some of us do not pretend to speak for all women.

        Regardless, Why will Kackling Kamala do better than Hillary ? I am hard pressed to think of anyway Harris is a better candidate than Hillary.
        And Hillary lost to Trump before he had a successful presidency.

        Why are those who were not voting for Biden going to vote for Harris ? Are you claiming that Harris has more appeal to women because of the junk between Joes legs ?

  15. By LIghteredknot They have not finalized the alleged symbiosis work on Kam as it seems the lower neck is unraveling.?

  16. The FEC Chairman says the Biden Campaign just changed their name and intends to spend the money and face the music later.

    He said that money collected for the general election before the convention, is to be returned to the donors. They’re not.

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