In an interview with podcast host Dan Bongino, former President Trump said he “thinks” he will sue CBS after it was found to have edited an interview with Vice President Kamala Harris, only the latest such allegation against mainstream media. I hope that he will think again about this latest threat of litigation. I agree with the criticism of the media, including CBS, in the bias shown in the election. However, such a lawsuit would be legally groundless, in my view. If it is any solace, the media is doing enough damage to itself.
Many have criticized CBS for its editing of the interview with journalist Bill Whitaker after the network shortened portions of Harris’s answer to a question about the war in Gaza in its initial broadcast. It later provided a full transcript of her remarks online. (For full disclosure, I worked twice under contract with CBS as a legal analyst).
Trump, however, took the matter further in his interview, stating, “[s]o I think I’m going to sue them actually. I think so. No, you know what, they can’t defend it and if they do and even if they win it’s going to be very embarrassing.”
Such a lawsuit would fail. The media is allowed to engage in such editing. Indeed, bias itself is not generally actionable. Moreover, there were moments where Whitaker did press Harris in sharp contrast to most of her interviews on shows like The View, Howard Stern’s SiriusXM show, as well as on Late Night with Stephen Colbert. There were some tough moments where Whitaker pushed Harris to give more than soundbite answers.
I have been a vocal critic of the mainstream media for its embracing of what I refer to as “advocacy journalism” in my book, The Indispensable Right. Many in this country view mainstream media as a de facto state media due to the bias shown against Trump and for Democratic talking points. Indeed, the mantra “Let’s Go Brandon!” was embraced by millions as a criticism of the media as much as it was a criticism of President Biden.
However, the threats of harassing lawsuits destroys any moral high ground for Trump. It is also entirely unnecessary. As I wrote this weekend, “journalism has become a ship of fools who increasingly write for each other rather than the dwindling numbers of actual readers.”
CBS was widely criticized for the performance of Norah O’Donnell and Margaret Brennan as moderators in the presidential debate. That includes reneging on a pledge not to “fact check” and showing manifest bias in their treatment of the candidates.
Television and print outlets are experiencing a sharp decline in revenue and audiences across the industry. As discussed in this weekend’s column, the public is going elsewhere for news. Trust in the media is at a record low. There is no lawsuit that could do the damage that the mainstream media is doing to itself.
Despite my criticism of the rise of mainstream or “legacy” media, I still believe that we need a strong “fourth estate” in a democracy. We need a neutral and objective media today more than ever. CBS is a network with a history of true legends in this field. It has served this country well in its tireless pursuit of important stories, including the disclosure of government abuses.
The current reporters and editors are destroying American journalism with their overt bias and hostility. However, it will be the public and the market (not lawsuits) that will ultimately hold the media accountable for the abandonment of neutrality principles.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
Jonathan: I don’t disagree. DJT has a snowball’s chance on hell of successfully suing CBS. But DJT erroneously thinks by acting the bully he can intimidate the press. His “strike” suits against the press have uniformly failed miserably. But he keeps trying–thinking like the insane person that if he tries and tries again their will be a different result.
So DJT rants and raves saying the FCC should revoke the broadcast licenses of NBC and CBS because he doesn’t like what they say about him–mostly because they actually fact check his lies. The FCC has resisted DJT’s demands because DJT is no longer in office. But what happens if DJT wins the election. We know what DJT would do. He would simply issue an executive suspending the Constitution, declaring martial law and shutting down the press and silencing any opposition. This is what Putin has done in Russia and Orban in Hungary. DJT admires “strong” authoritarian types so he would emulate them here. And what would stand in the way? The courts? The Roberts “immunity” decision gives broad and sweeping powers to the executive. As long as any executive order by DJT falls with the category of “official acts”, or those presumptively deemed “official”, DJT could not be held accountable in the courts. A frightening prospect.
DJT is the last person to complain about CBS. He ditched the “60 Minutes” interview–even though CBS agreed to DJT’s demand to shift the venue for the interview to Butler, Penn. A week after the CBS offer DJT found another excuse for cancelling. His spokesman, Steven Cheung, said his boss was bowing out because “They [CBS] also insisted on doing live fact checking, which is unprecedented”. Well, not exactly “unprecedented”. During the first CNN debate between Harris and DJT he was fact checked twice by the moderators. DJT complained endlessly about that and why he refused a second debate with Harris.
In contrast, both Harris and Walz sat down with “60 Minutes”. Harris even sat down for an interview with Fox. That shows Harris and Walz are willing to sit down and take tough questions from anyone. DJT is a coward. He runs from the battle when he can’t control the questions asked. He wants only softball Qs from “friendly” moderators. Is this the guy we really want sitting in the WH?
Bullsh!t if TRUMP were to do all that he would have done it in 2017!!!!!!!
Trump is not going to win a lawsuit against CBS
I doubt he will file one
But he is continuing to keep CBS’s shame int he news – that is the objective.
You say Trump rants about pulling licenses – that is the same.
We KNOW from Trump’s presidency he did not even TRY to do anything like that
While Biden/Harris/Obama leveraged governemtn to engage in massive censorship.
Trump is keeping the Bias off the news in the news.
Even CBS can not avoid reporting on Trump threatening to sue them – bring their malfeasance to the fore with their own viewers.
You say Trump’s “strike” suits agains the press have failed miserably – which lawsuits would these be ?
Trump has said things about going after the press many times- but there are few times he has done so.
“But what happens if DJT wins the election. We know what DJT would do. He would simply issue an executive suspending the Constitution, declaring martial law and shutting down the press and silencing any opposition. ”
The problem with that argument is that Trump has already Been president – and he did not do any of those things.
BTW you can not suspend the constitution by executive order. You can not declare martial law without congress declaring war.
Trump was president, none of these things happened.
“The Roberts “immunity” decision gives broad and sweeping powers to the executive.”
No, Roberts immunity decision gives sweeping powers to the courts.
The right decision was impeach, remove, prosecute.
I would note no president has every been prosecuted for a presumptively official act -including the murder of US citizens.
“He ditched the “60 Minutes” interview”
The race has changed. Trump does not need to do interviews – he really never has. Everyone already knows where he stands on pretty much everything. He has not vascilated o flip flopped. People know what they are getting.
Harris is the one who can not reach independents and undecides, and her efforts to try to do so while laudable have failed badly.
Trump is now trying to “run up the score” – While Harris is trying to climb out of a hole – these are different strategies.
It appears Trump is going on Joe Rogan. That will pressure Harris to do so. She should, but I doubt she can hold up to a 3 hr joe rogan interview. Trump can.
Trump said he won the first debate and that he therefore did not need to do another. He used a prize fighting analogy.
That has proven correct.
Harris is the one demanding more debates – That means she needs them.
Trump has the luxury of picking and choosing interviews NOW.
he did lots of interviews before. Now he is looking to run up the score.
If you do not like this – you should not have allowed your candidate to fall behind.
In all contests, like sports the team in the lead gets to dictate how things proceed.
They can try to run out the clock if they want.
“That shows Harris and Walz are willing to sit down and take tough questions from anyone.”
No it shows that after months of evading they are behind and NOW they have to gamble to attempt to catch up,
I will credit them for the courage to try. But it is their strategy that put them in this bind.
They are Trying, and they are failing.
Trump has answered lots of Hard Q’s and lots of gotcha questions. Right now he has a commanding lead and he is acting accordingly.
BTW I watched the allegedly offensive part of Trump’s Palmer remarks.
It was pretty mild innuendo. Biden has said far worse. It is not even close tot he Grab them By the P#SSY remarks.
YOUR portrayal and that of the MSM has actually be MORE offensive than the actual remakrs.
I am not sure why I sought out the remarks – I already KNOW that you and the MSM lie all the time.
Nothing I found out changed that.
When you do not include an actual quote from Trump – we KNOW you are lying.
One the rare occasions you do – we know you are taking the remark out of context.
The tide is going out on the Harris campaign.
Atleast 4 democrat senators in battle grounds states in close races are now tying themselves to Trump on immigration and trade.
In some cases including video fo them with Trump.
When your own downballot candidates start distancing themselves from you and getting closer to your oponent – the race is over.
The best polls are showing Trump with a 2pt popular vote lead. That could open up to 4-8 by election day.
Many are noting that this is not like 2016 or 2020 when Trump gained 4-7 pts in the last 3 weeks, but starting to look like 1980, When Reagan went from behind to a massive landslide in the last 3 weeks.
But the core problem is that no one trusts you, democrats, or harris – because you LIE over and over.
Trump is not winning because he is an unbeleivable candidate.
He is winning – because you have failed and constantly lie about it.
Because you constantly lie about him.
Because you are the little boy who cried wolf and no one beleives you.
Jake Tapper told Speaker Johnson that the only reason that Trump was not up by 10 was remarks like the Arnold Palmer quip.
True ? Lets assume it is. Trump is up by 2pts – what wouldTrump up by 12pts look like ?
If Trump is his own worst enemy – he is still winning and that still means voters hate YOU more than Trump.
You rant about Trump – lets presume everything you say is true.
Trump is still winning – voters hearing all the things about Trump you say STILL are voting against you.
They still HATE you more than Trump.
Think about it – every horrible thing you say about Trump – voters are STILL picking him over you and yours ?
John Say,
That was an awesome take down of Dennis!
You like to Fixate on DJT stock. It closed on friday at 29.5 – that is more than double where it was a month ago, and it is on a rising Trend.
I beleive a value of approximately 30 means Trump’s net Worth is close to 7B again – up from 2.6B in 2020.
The stockmarket is rising – according to one of the most respected traders because it is pricing a Trump victory.
Druckenmiller observed that the stocks with the most significant rise are those most harmed by Biden and most likely to gain if Trump is re-elected. Investors are buying in anticipation of a Trump victory.
Market shifts are no proof of anything – except that the market is rising or falling,
Trying to read them is very complex. Bu in fact they DO encode the markets predictions for the future as well as the past.
While I a NOT prepared to claim that a rising stock market means a Trump victory, market analysts are saying that not me.
I am point blank stating that YOU really should quit trying to make claims based on stock values.
You clearly do not know what you are talking about.
DJT may rise more – it may fall – the factors driving that are incredibly complex. I think it is possible that DJT may drop eventually as a result of Trump’s election and rise if he loses – because DJT is likely to run counter to effort o censor Musk. The greater the censorship of X the higher DJT will rise. But that is my 0.02.
At the same time I think there is little doubt that DJT stock is a good long term investment. Trump’s net worth will have increased by atleast a Billion as a result of getting into Social Media, and depending on how the future goes his investment could tripple or more his networth.
But you want t rant and rave and try to make everything polical.
So I have no problem noting that once again – you are WRONG.
DJT is a coward. He runs from the battle when he can’t control the questions asked. He wants only softball Qs from “friendly” moderators.
Good ‘ol Dennis: confession of sins is carried out by accusations.
Like the friendly Democrat “moderators” who fact checked him with lies – while NOT fact checking Cackling Kamalas lies. Like softball questions sitting down for an interview with the Black Racist Journalist’s organization – the one that Kamala didn’t show up for.
Why is freeloader Dennis using Professor Turley’s blog as his own? Isn’t Cackling Kamala and Weird Tampon Tim Walz paying him enough to pay for his own web space to run his blog?
Dennis, you are not what one would consider an informed individual, yet you know a little about CBS’s maleficence. If you had critical thinking skills, you would recognize that this translates into many uninterested people recognizing CBS as a place for fools to go for their information. Some of them are not absolute fools like you, so they might learn to flip the channel. Trump again succeeds in his quest while you fail.
“This is what Putin has done in Russia and Orban in Hungary.”
Orban is someone you know nothing about but libel continuously. You are as much of a fool discussing Orban as you are when discussing CBS.
Under the Orban administration, one-tenth of Hungary’s budget goes to families. That type of governing should be praised. This is why the fertility rate climbed from .83 to 1.6, and, along with the increasing marriage rate, took a dying nation and breathed life into it. Being from the culture of death, you don’t understand these things.
In the past, you associated Orban with fascism, another bit of stupidity you are well known for. He has won four terms as prime minister AND outpolled his opposition 54 to 33 with fair elections despite Soros flooding cash to the opposing candidates. The elections were fair and free without doing a Biden and putting his opposition in jail. Social media doesn’t censor, and there is no lawfare. In addition, Jewish life flourishes, and Jews can walk the streets wearing their yamulkas without fear.
Your lack of knowledge, Dennis, is awesome. Even though you lack learning, you talk and make comments that do not match the facts. You won’t learn, so I will bow out having corrected only a couple of your erroneous comments.
So how long have you been a groveling sycophant for the propagandist press? And does it pay well enough to shame youreslf for?
* Just stop bickering. The democrats are the worst criminals that could have been gathered. Conservatives have lost the federal and the USA is no more. Maybe you can salvage a State or two.
If half of the population is voting for Harris and Walz the only concern is when will the nukes fly. There’s incoming.
Signing off
Turley: are you joking in criticizing mainstream media for not being tough on Kamala Harris, when Trump REFUSES to go on camera in any venue that isn’t friendly to him? The fake “town hall” audience consisted of MAGAs. Hannity, pretending to be something other than a syncophant for a convicted criminal, has actually appeared on stage with Trump at his vaudeville shows–and Hannity and other Faux “hosts” NEVER push back on any of the utter nonsense Trump utters or redirct him when he doesn’t provide a responsive answer. Faux NEVER comments on the insane things Trump says–by way of example, just yesterday at a rally in Latrobe, PA, home of Arnold Palmer, Trump went on a diatribe about Palmer’s “unbelievable” phallus. Is this appropriate for a presidential candidate–and WHY is Trump obsessed about the size of mens’ genitals? Also, he plays “YMCA”, a gay anthem at his rallies–is he, perhaps, gay? You have to wonder. As I’ve always said, Trump is an actor. His “rallies” are nothing but his vaudeville show–sometimes complete with musical numbers. Someone who was serious about being the leader of the free world and deserving of the dignity of the office of the President of the United States doesn’t behave like this.
Here’s something you left out of today’s little piece–what content did CBS edit from the Harris interview? Was it something substantively important, something that contradicts other statements she previously made, something that makes her look bad? Turley, a purchased mouthpiece for Fox, claims he agrees with criticism of CBS, and accuses it of bias–BUT doesn’t say WHY. Turley doesn’t explain why the edited material is important or just HOW editing the content establishes bias on the part of CBS. Of course, THAT’s not the point of today’s piece–which was to add fuel to the MAGA argument that mainstream media are biased against Trump and therefore, not trustworthy–all to add credibility to MAGA media. Of course, Turley couldn’t resist throwing in a shameless promo for his book.
I think Trump SHOULD sue–then CBS should file a counter-suit for frivolous litigation.
Please name a MSM network that has a history of friendly venue towards Trump. FOX under Rupert Murdoch was the only network that I ever recall and then the boys took over and that was the end of that.
Gigi: posted: Turley: are you joking in criticizing mainstream media for not being tough on Kamala Harris, when Trump REFUSES to go on camera in any venue that isn’t friendly to him?
The interview Trump did with the Black Racist Journalists’ Association didn’t count – that was friendly? The “debate” against the moderators with their lying “fact checks” for Trump and zero for Harris lies was friendly?
Gigi, this is why you defend and keep your title:
Gigi, Surrogate Womb For The Fire Hose Of Democrat Lies.
Prof. Turley
You are correct, that Trump should not sue.
But I disagree with your criticism of Trump’s THREAT to sue.
People threaten to sue all the time.
it is not meaningless, it DOES call attention to problems, and their seriousness.
“Some of the most extraordinary people in American life have formed a team and are asking to take on the problems that face the country, staking their reputations on the outcome
And on the other side there are some politicians
Hard one, isn’t it?” @walterkirn
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Professor Turley, you and I agree on most things but on this occasion we differ. You and I both know that Trump is not going to sue CBS. Trump is simply pointing out that CBS as is the common practice of the MSM held out some of the most damning evidence that proves that Harris has changed her positions in order to win the election. The parts that CBS left out were her stammering and stuttering when pressed on not doing anything about the border for three and a half years. The threatening to sue by Trump has effectively brought attention to CBS putting its thumb on the scale by editing out the most embarrassing moments in Harris’s answers. Without Trump threatening to sue it would have been successfully swept under the rug. The American people deserve to see who Harris really is not just part of who she is. Leaving part of who she is on the editing room floor does not allow the American people to know the entire story. Propaganda by omission is still propaganda and Trump using a threat of a lawsuit has indeed brought attention to the incident. His threat appearing on your forum is proof of my assertion. Thanks for doing your part.
TIT I entirely agree with you.
Trump is not likely to sue. Doing so would be a mistake.
The case would likely be dismissed quickly and that would harm Trump alittle.
At the same time the THREAT to sue draws more attention to the biased and unethical practices of the media – in this case CBS
60 Minutes is a brand that has established a reputation for integrity – the reporter doing the Harris interview did a surprisingly good job.
But 60 Minutes by editing the interview in deliberately very deceptive ways effectively changed the answers.
They should be embarrassed. Trump and others should do as much as possible to embarrass them.
This is and should be damaging to the brand.
One the whole I eschew threats to sue people – Sue, don’t but do not threaten.
At the same temp threatening a lawsuit is itself a form of free speech,
it calls attention to something you think is seriously wrong.
Turley notes that HE and others have criticized CBS – and that is the remedy.
And he is correct, But NOT he alone. Trump is free to weigh in too, and his legal threat is part of the criticism of CBS.
It makes it clear this was a serious mistake that harms CBS, its viewers and its reputation.
There are times for threats – even if actually carrying them out is wrong.
Fox News does the same thing all the time. Why won’t Turley criticize them? In Brett Baire’s interview with Harris, they showed a video of Trump cutting off the part Harris was talking about.
Fox News does what Turley is critical of regularly. Only when left-leaning news organizations occasionally do it is when it becomes news to those on the right. Fox News is not criticized because they do it all the time. CBS, CNN, and MSNBC are criticized because they do it occasionally.
Its opposites day in Georgeville
In a country as large and populated as the U.S., it truly is a full-time task to “police” the media.
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Incredibly insightful and relevant book. Grateful to Professor Turley for this masterpiece of inquiry, rigorous research, and public concern.
I suspect that professor Turley is right about almost everything and yet maybe wrong in his conclusion in this instance.
Lately the courts are less a forum for resolving disputes with law and reason [insofar as that may be possible] than they are become weapons. Certainly the most prominent recent examples are the actions against Trump, but there are many others. They are spiked clubs.
But how long will you be beat on before picking up and swinging your own spiked club? The deep state now openly fears that a victorious Trump will do to them what has been done to him. Good. They have shown that they will not be restrained by custom or law or decency or even the need to preserve our nation. Perhaps the club will work. Go get them.
Most of the judicial branch should be impeached for partiality, bias, politicization, and abject corruption.
Has any court and/or DA attacked a democrat to favor a conservative?
Anon– “Has any court and/or DA attacked a democrat to favor a conservative?”
Good question. I don’t think so. If you are truly conservative you respect, honor, the rule of law and would be ashamed to act like a DC or NY judge.
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Let’s say that CBS edited the interview and put out a transcript of the EDITED interview, in an effort to cover-up Kamala Harris’ word salads and gaffes. Let’s say CBS motive is political infowarfare, which is currently legal unless someone is defamed. Trump’s instinct is to sue.
Mine is too. But the difference is, I recognize we would have to pass Public Frauds legislation establishing the ability to haul a media firm (and co-conspiring political figures) into court for attempting to defraud the public for political gain (and noone is defamed by the whopper). That legislation would need to confront certain tactical loopholes protecting the powerful….first, by creating Fast Public Frauds Courts offering plaintiffs Rapid Due Diligence. That is necessary to prevent the accused infowarriors from delay tactics in answering subpoenas and giving compelled depositions.
Another loophole to be closed is making public officials equally exposed to Public Frauds lawsuits as any other citizens.
Being a Member of Congress or Administration official cannot be an exemption, since the greatest threat to our freedom are liars who make it to the top, and then employ artful falsehoods (false narratives) — with sympathetic media amplifying them — to “opinion shape” the citizenry. That is exactly what Russia has become under Putin, what China has became with Mao Tze-Tung’s CCP, what Venezuela became under Hugo Chavez, and what every free society dare not ignore as an ever-present threat from within.
Trump’s heart is in the right place on the need to put the brakes on activist journalism, although he is too solipsistic to realize how reasonable measures like Public Frauds lawsuits would also apply to himself and his media allies. The question is whether he’s be willing to put aside his double-standard, and have to stop waging his own deceitful infowarfare. So far, I don’t think he’s capable of seeing a path forward to tame leftist media which would equally apply to the deceits advanced by right (e.g., his big lie).
But just because he’s only looking at the law from his perspective, there is nonetheless a germ of common sense in his idea that CBS is defrauding the public, and that needs a way to be challenged (besides mere complaining about it).
The question is whether he’s (Trump) be willing to put aside his double-standard, and have to stop waging his own deceitful infowarfare (e.g., his big lie).
There you go again, pbinca, the usual sophistry trying to be the wolf in sheep’s clothing working on both sides of the fence… the deceitful Democrat infowarfare that the 2020 election had absolutely no vote rigging, machinations, etc to put Democrat fingers on the scales for Biden. Most transparent election in history! Biden and Obama along with their trusted news media assured us that’s true!
Victory by any means, pbinca! You almost got through writing a reasonable worthwhile comment – but then you just couldn’t help yourself. Had to throw in some BBBUUUTTTT… MUH TRUMP! deceitful infowarfare.
The Democrat Big Lie: there was absolutely NO cheating, rigging and fixing in the 2020 election. Trump is lying to say there was – The Big Lie is not you Democrats, it’s Trump claiming there was.
As Biden and Democrats assure us: most transparent election in history! Same Democrats who still stick to the 2016 Big Lie that Russia helped Trump win the election. Same Democrats that peddle the Big Lie that Stacy Abrams won the election for governor. Same Democrats that peddled the previous Democrat Big Lies that Al Gore and John Kerry defeated Bush in those elections.
Let’s give you a quick reminder of the Big Lie: the 2020 election was the most transparent in history and their was no fraud or any kind of rigging that influenced that election.
Democrat lawyer Marc Elias fresh off his 2016 “Trump Russia Dossier” illegal campaign propaganda apparently DIDN’T go into critical battleground states to get voting laws changed through unconstitutional means by having that done by judges, bureaucrats, etc when changes are to be done by the elected legislatures. Like no voter ID required any longer. Live “vote harvesters” going into retirement homes to “help” residents who don’t even know where they choose who to vote for. Like counting mail in ballots mailed after voting day.
Okay… yeah, Marc Elias and the Democrats did that. But it didn’t change the results in the slightest!
Obama and now Biden’s Secretary of State Anthony Blinken DIDN’T influence the election by seeking out and recruiting “51 Intelligence Agency experts say the laptop supposedly belonging to Biden is just Russian election disinformation”. That didn’t influence a single vote! Most transparent election in history, after all! FBI now admits they knew for years it was Biden’s laptop, as did those “experts”… but victory by any means, including infowarfare.
The FBI DIDN’T influence the election by hiding the Biden Bribery Laptop and Biden criminality from not just American voters – but congressional oversight boards as well. Can’t make a voting choice on what you don’t know about, right pbinca?
The FBI and Democrat politicians DIDN’T influence the election by working hand in glove with Facebook and Twitter to censor news media and journalists trying to publish pieces about that laptop, what Biden and Fauci were doing and hiding regarding Wuhan Flu. Shadow banning and outright banning, the whole gamut.
None of those combined efforts of government and Democrat censorship influenced even a single undecided voter! Certainly not infowarefare to influence the 2020 election!
And of course pbinca, Mark Zuckerburg pouring $430 MILLION into battleground states to “get out the vote” – but spending that money ONLY in districts that were proven Democrat and little to nothing in districts that were Republican. That’s transparent – NOT rigging an election.
No pbinca, Zuckerburg essentially buying Democrat votes couldn’t have influenced the outcome of the election at all. It was indeed the most transparent election in history, and it is Trump waging deceitful infowarfare to claim that any of it happened.
Your sophistry still leaves your grasp short of achieving your ambitions.
How about giving us your rating of what your credibility rating is here pbinca. Not a rating of whether people agree with opinions you have. But a rating on your credibility, like when you claim that it is Trump Infowar for him to claim the 2020 election was rigged.
Have you ever thought what an insult you direct at us when you come here to tell us we should believe you – not our lying eyes?
Wow…you got me to look up the word “sophistry”. Why make the criticism of ideas so personal? So ad-hominem?
From what I’ve researched, the 2020 election was not “free and fair” because of the deceitful infowarfare pushed out by the Biden campaign (Biden, Blinken) with professional PsyOps assistance from Mike Morell, the 51 spies that lie, and the media mainstream who ditched journalistic integrity and got behind the “Hunter’s laptop is Russian-intel hacking”. Post-election surveys (equipped with truth about what Blinken-Morell actually did) indicate around 10% would possibly have voted differently if they had known in time to matter. (I’m proposing people being able to confront such whoppers by filing a lawsuit immediately, to blunt the infowarfare impact).
Only NPR radio has apologized to its audience for running with the false narrative pushed out by the Biden campaign with CIA expert help. But that was well after the damage was done.
To claim that the actual voting was “rigged” (organized ballot fraud on a massive scale) is just a false narrative with no evidence. Using a vague accusatory term like “rigged” or “stolen” is typical infowarfare, because it appeals to emotions (victimhood, outrage) instead of intellect (“What specific illegal actions were committed?”)
Do you see the difference? People who are determined to have fair voting processes first study how they work, and ask “Where are the possible scams, and what are the countermeasures to detect them?”
People who equate election fairness with their favored candidate winning?….I’ll let people decide for themselves what adjective best fits.
We can argue until we’re blue about what is true vs. false, but in disagreements of large consequence, we have a tradition of Courts, adversarial presentation of evidence, subpoena and compelled deposition/testimony to sort out fact from fiction. Under this system, JURIES of 12 Americans, not biased journalists, are the finders-of-fact.
Juries have a tremendous record of “getting it right”…you can point to the worst failures of juries, but when stacking those up against the thousands of jury decisions rendered every day which the public accepts, you have to admit, it’s a great system. Our Founders gave us that means of resolving conflicts over facts.
Is it wrong that I make the connection between that system of truth-deciding, and the problems we are struggling with fake media? Also, what’s wrong with “working both sides of the fence”? There won’t be any reforms acceptable to both factions unless they come from a position of neutrality and fairness. Whatever reform one side enthusiastically backs the opposition will dig in to thwart — nothing will get done.
The personal put-downs? Read the Civility Rule (link in menu at top of page).
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CBS is defrauding the public, and NO there should not be a cause of action for that.
While I support Trump threatening to sue.
Trump threatens the media for bad reporting all the time.
That is free speech.
He does NOT do anything about it – that WOULD actually be wrong.
Your public frauds legislation would be a big mistake.
It would further politicize and weaponize the courts and it would be a violation of the right to free speech.
This is little different from the FL case against DeSantis that has been addressed here recently.
DeSantis is WRONG to use the law to go after political adds making false and dangerous statements about FL abortion law.
What those on the left who are cheering the decision fail to grasp is that aside fromt he dueling experts aspect – this is no different from ALL FDA requlation of drug and food advertising. It too is unconstitutional.
As a consumer you have a valid tort claim against an advertiser who misrepresents their product and reliance on that misrepresentation causes you actual harm.
But actual harm is a requirement for a tort.
Actual harm is NOT hurt feelings, it is not losing an election. It is not people buying a different product.
It is real tangible quantifiable harm to you.
Defamation is ALSO supposed to require real harm – but as we have seen int he politically weaponized defamation cases, it is easy for politicized courts to get arround that.
Regardless, your public frauds legislation would make things worse not better,
an require the courts to perform an easily politicizable task that they are unsuited for.
* It’s like boneless chicken wings. Every now and then they aren’t boneless. MOSTLY BONELESS. The USA doesn’t allow fraud or false advertisements as in the altered interview was not transparent as ALTERED.
Dear Prof Turley,
Oh, Trump can be quite litigious. .. and in the age of rage there’s no such thing as bad publicity.
It’s all ‘fake news’ anyway. I agree. Coming and going. Besides, he might get lucky and get a ‘Trump Judge’ !
By definition, this election is rigged, and we haven’t had a functional 4th estate since Walter Cronkite passed away. .. present company excluded, of course.
*you got to be a little bit crazy .. .
BRAVO to the good professor Turley, whose real surname should be Truely! He is sooo right.
I don’t need SNL on Saturday night to make me smile. We all go out instead, -then I watch the propagandized Sunday morning political shows on NBC and ABC for my humor boost.
True to form, each show started off with repeated references to Trump’s “dark rhetoric,” profanity, and return to “repeated lies.” Then, in contrast, there were the fawning references to Harris’s power to draw in Usher, Lizzo, Obama in beckoning the “Black vote.”
Foundation laid.
then…
True to form, each had the Republican guest on first, followed by the hand-picked Democrat guest(s) intended to discredit what the Republican just said.
True to form, BOTH Kristen Welker (NBC) and Martha Raddatz (ABC) engaged in heavy and lengthy argument, cutting off, and generally interrupting what Republicans Chris Sununu (ABC) and Lindsey Graham (NBC) were trying to say.
True to form, then the Democrats came on..with total carte blanche platform.
True to form, and for dessert! then we had the “panel” –very top-heavy with left-wingers to discuss the week’s political news.
I feel saddened for any American who cannot see through this game. And I truly regret that political election has been reduced to exactly that: a tactical game. I’m quite reserved in personality. But without fairness and balance in journalism, I may be edging toward throwing my water bottle out on the field.
(just kidding)
Have a nice day everyone, beautiful outside with just a hint of fall colour.
(*water bottle reference to last night’s Georgia-Texas game.)
Lin-
Go Dawgs. The tea sippers lose one.
lin………Your long statement was terrific. Perfectly articulated!
As per football, we’ve been in the Austin Tx area for 47 years…..but have never been UT fans…Baylor is our Texas team. Yesterday we were gone and when we returned and watched Sports channel, we thought it must be “opposite day” since UT lost and Baylor won. UT fans acted shamefully. Jeez.!…. I’m sure alcohol was involved along with their belief that they’re better than everyone else.
Sic ’em, Bears.
(also, hubby is a native Georgia boy)
Lin,
Thank you for that review. Only confirms as to why I do not watch MSM. It is a rigged game show.
To hammer the point home, here is a article from The Free Press on CBS rigging the interview and other failures at the outlet, ‘60 Minutes’: Release the Unedited Kamala Harris Transcript
“Is CBS guilty of journalistic malpractice? There’s an easy way to find out.”
https://www.thefp.com/p/60-minutes-release-the-unedited-kamala
* How can that kind of tampering be categorized? How did this get out of CBS? It’s a cut and paste interview?
They’ll argue the meaning is the same. They removed the salad and went to main course.
Good post
I feel saddened for any American who cannot see through this game.
But lin… why would you think they don’t see through the Pravda game played by the media being the counterpart of the old Soviet KGB: “news” media acting as both the shield and the sword of their party?
Their hearing and reading comprehension suddenly disappears when there are articles and analysis published that are critical of media dishonesty? I don’t think so.
Other than the terminally deluded, they know this game – and they approve. Their mantra is “Win by any means – defend The Great Leap Forward to political hegemony for America”.
lin–really? Did you see Trump’s vaudeville act in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, when he went off on a diatribe about Arnold Palmer’s “unbelievable” genitals? It is a TRUE FACT that Donald Trump is a pathological liar, that he uses profanity and that he DID threaten to use the National Guard and/ or the US military against what he calls “radical left”–specifically mentioning Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff. He also is unfocused, dodges answering questions and endlessly lies.
Does the implication of these things even faze you? We citizens all pay for the US military–it cannot be used against US citizens, and the framers placed the military under civilian control to prevent it from being used to pull off a coup or for political reasons. Just HOW, according to you, should media handle a presidential candidate who: 1. lost an election, lies about it being stolen by fraud that has been disproven, but who still can’t stop lying about it, and who sent an angry mob to the Capitol to try to prevent the rightful winner from taking office; 2. stole classified documents, refused polite requests to return them, lied about retaining some, and forced the FBI to execute a search warrant; 3. has been adjudicated of sexual assault, fraud on loan applications and in business records to cover up liaisons with a nude model and porn actress; 4. who refused for over 3 hours to call off the violence at the Capitol while police officers were being beaten and the property was being trashed?
What constitutes “fairness and balance in journalism”? Should media ignore the above, Trump’s aberrant behavor, lies and all the rest because MAGA media does? Why do you believe the attacks against mainstream media? Why don’t you see Trump for what he really is?
And you believe fgb&Harris!!!!!!
So if Trump sues CBS for broadcasting blatant falsehoods, namely the heavily edited interview, and loses, what does that mean? It means the court will have officially said CBS and the rest of the mainstream media may lie with impunity about anything and everything. From a legal 1st amendment perspective, that’s ok EXCEPT FOR the protection of Times v Sullivan, which should be abolished in conjunction with that decision. From a public relations viewpoint, however, it leads to: “The courts have said CBSNBCABCCNNMSNBCNTTIMESWASHPOST may lie about everything and there they go again, lying with impunity, blatantly, flagrantly.”
Good point. But if Congress could LEGISLATE allowing citizens to confront Public Frauds via lawsuits (no defamation required), then the Courts would have to defer to statute. In the absence of such legislation,
you’re 100% correct that deceitful infowarriors like CBS would likely prevail in Court.
But then, big media companies (and co-conspiring political actors) asserting that deceiving the public is their right under “freedom of the press” — and getting a lower Court to agree! — that could spur the public and Congress to fight back with Public Frauds legislation.
That kind if torts law would eventually end up in SCOTUS, but I trust the present court makeup to “get it” that a free society such as ours runs on the fuel of truth and trust. I think there’s a good chance they would uphold public frauds lawsuits as Constitutional, based upon the same reasoning as defamation law — patent falsehoods can injure not just private parties, but also degrade the quality of public decisionmaking.
Please stop pushing this stupid nonsense.
This will make things WORSE not better.
A real tort does NOT require legislation.
The reason that you do not see public Frauds tort claims is that a so called public fraud is neither a tort nor a fraud.
Both require REAL HARM
Being lied to and beleiving it is NOT real harm – and it is YOUR problem, you chose to beleive it.
A real harm occurs when someone has a DUTY to tell you the truth. That is NOT the norm.
That is true when you are under oath.
It is true about advertising to sell a product – but again the REAL HARM does not occur until you rely on the false statments
and the results is significant tangible harm.
We do not want to drag our courts further into politics.
That does not end well.
You are just shilling for the same stupid left wing nut nonsense that misinformation is not protected speech.
Grow up, it is,
It is YOUR responsibility to figure out who you can trust and who you can’t.
You do not get to blame others for your bad judgement.
* Not real harm? It is in the USA.
“It means the court will have officially said CBS and the rest of the mainstream media may lie with impunity about anything and everything.”
That is correct, that is what the first amendment means.
The only problem with Times V Sullivan is it did not go far enough.
Defamation claims should be harder to make – if not impossible.
The way we sort this out is in the free market.
CBS has behaved badly, undermining the trust in their flagship brand.
They will lose viewers, those that remain – all of us generally will trust them less.
This is how lies and false statements are punished – people cease to trust you.
Here on this board we have people posting everyday.
Some of them lie constantly.
Some of them don’t.
Most of us know which posters can be trusted and which can’t.
Turley posts most everyday. We read him because most of what he posts is good – eve if we sometimes differ.
Turley has built a reputation for trust – that enhances trust in his remarks and the value of his speech.
He is paid by various outlets BECAUSE he has established a reputation that he can be trusted.
CBS is whittling away at its reputation. That will cost it viewers, advertisers, and money.
If by some miracle its viewers are happy to be lied to – so be it. Their problem.
That is how free speech works.
There is no such thing as a free market in this country. The illusion of a free market exists, that’s only possible because it’s mostly a rigged system. It’s not truly a “free market.
“ He is paid by various outlets BECAUSE he has established a reputation that he can be trusted.”
No, he’s paid because he’s selling an illusion of credibility. Not because he can be trusted.
Professor Turley wrote: However, the threats of harassing lawsuits destroys any moral high ground for Trump.
Moral high ground is the issue?? Ah! Trump should stay on the high ground of the noble and ethical loser! Just like Romney and McCain did before! That will change how the media and Democrats speak about him after they become the ugly and immoral winners!
Better for Trump to lose magnificently, allowing Harris and the Democrats continuing their agenda (including packing courts and lawfare, etc). Rather than to win by fighting ugly: fighting under the rules your opponent chose in their attacks on you!
Professor Turley: that moral high ground approach apply to you or just Trump?
Will you feel you’re standing on the moral high ground if you vote Democrat (you have yet to publicly disavow your party) after what you know of your party’s immorality and lawfare since Obama took office? Particularly after watching your Democratic party’s conduct in the last four years under Biden/Harris, Merrick Garland’s DoJ, etc?
Or will you feel that with your vote for those same Democrats, you just destroyed any moral high ground you held by voting for four more years of Biden/Harris?
You can’t possibly be so naive as to believe your Democratic Party cares whether their desertion any moral high they stood anywhere near since Obama first took office 16 years ago will cause them to lose sleep if all their immorality helps them defeat Trump and install Harris as president? That if Trump “fights fair”, they will do the same and drop the lies and lawfare?
You can’t possibly be so naive as to believe the only reason Democrats are immoral and lawless is because Trump is the candidate? None of this would have happened if DeSantis, Cruz, etc were the nominee?
Of course it would have – it already has, long before Trump. Witness the 2012 election campaign Jack Smith prosecution of Governor Bob McDonnell and Smith advising Louis Lerner of the IRS to violate GOP groups 1st Amendment rights, both during that election campaign.
You appear to infer that, after eight years of lawfare and felonies Democrats committed to take out Trump, this civil lawsuit would leave Trump at the same moral level of the Biden/Harris administration? You would have us agree with you that this is a moral equivalency issue, and if Trump files this lawsuit there’s absolutely no morally higher ground left anywhere for Trump to be standing on?
If you do believe there is such a moral equivalency between Trump and Biden/Harris, give your head a shake, you deluded dopey man.
Professor Turley: you might find it appealing if Republicans continue to be noble and moral losers of political campaigns in the vein of Romney and McCain losing to ugly Democrat winners. But an enormous number of Americans will take no comfort in your moral version of Trump losing to the immoral Democrats who defeated him. They believe the future of the country can’t afford that romantic fantasy from your world of academia.
When you’re fighting criminal thugs, you don’t fight under Olympic boxing rules when they’re coming at you with weapons. You fight back using every legal tool and strategy available: the barbarians chose the rules; you fight them using their rules and tactics that they attacked you with.
That said, clearly, you are right: such a lawsuit would fail. It wouldn’t even get out of the starting blocks before the election is already decided.
The media has an almost unlimited right to flat out lie by omission as well as commission, to conspire and work with government to promote illegal schemes i.e. “The Trump Russia Dossier” and other propaganda efforts for one party. The only significant check on them is what percentage of the population rejects them.
I wonder if Professor Turley thought of and dismissed mentioning the idea that Trump said he was going to sue CBS for generating falsehoods as just one more piece of their political campaign to help Harris get elected? Not intending to actually do that, but to keep the idea of their blatant dishonesty in the news?
If so, Trump certainly got the result of keeping media dishonesty in the public eye. Professor Turley isn’t the only one publishing columns and opinions about Trump suing CBS for dishonesty and keeping that dishonesty in the public eye.
If that wasn’t another throw-it-out-there line, I would much prefer that Trump instead spend every last minute remaining focusing all attention on Border Czar Harris’ record over the last four years, how she lied to Americans that Joe Biden was ‘sharp as a tack’ and continues that lie, etc. Contrast America under his four years in the White House with Biden/Harris’s four years in office. As somebody a few years ago observed, the only one who loves hearing Trump talk about Trump more than Trump himself are his Democrat opponents – then he isn’t talking about them instead.
Obama also loved to talk about himself while preening in the public eye and lecturing us on “teachable moments” – but he had a media acting as his advertising agents. Biden is more of the same with his long litany of lies of what he had done and what had happened to him during his 45 years in office. Again, the media acted and still acts as his protector and promoter.
All in all, in comparison to other columns a pretty lightweight offering other than the question of ‘moral high ground’, perhaps it’s a slow news morning.
* Well said.
Perhaps professor Turley is imagining that someone must keep some morality alive in the face of utter debased depravity. The enemy will see that as just weakness.
You’re correct and only soldiers face those battles as you know.
Jonathan: I’ll get to your column but first a round up of this week’s news. For starters, there was an “Oops” moment for Fox’s Bret Baier. He now admits he played the wrong DJT clip during his interview of Kamala Harris on Thursday. Baier says he meant to to play the previous Fox Maria Bartiromo interview where DJT warned about “the enemy from within”. That interview showed DJT has gone very dark authoritarian–claiming immigrants are really not the threat but “radical left Democrat lunatics”. He would suspend the Constitution and use the military to go after them. Harris tried to point this out during the interview while Baier kept trying to interrupt her. Frankly, I think Baier tried to fall on the sword for the producers who decided not to play the relevant clip because that would have supported Harris’s talking points.
Then, DJT campaigned yesterday in Latrobe, Penn., the birthplace of the famed gofer Arnold Palmer. DJT praised Palmer as “All man, and I say that in all due respect to women. This is a guy that was all man”. To emphasize the point DJT referred to Palmer’s genitalia. That was really weird! Seems DJT also suffers from penis envy. Probably with justification. Just ask Stormy Daniels.
Psychologists and psychiatrists say a deranged sociopath invariably projects his own personality disorders on others. Want further proof? At a rally in Detroit on Friday DJT told women MAGA supporters to “make sure you vote and bring all our friends that want to vote for us. Tell them, Jill, get your fat husband off the couch, get that fat pig off the couch. Tell him to go and vote for Trump…”. For a guy who is borderline obese it’s all projection. Now I don’t know about you but if I was called a “fat pig” I would think twice about voting for DJT!
Finally, Ryan Wesley Routh, the man who waited in the bushes to try to assassinate the former president at his Palm Beach golf resort, has raised an interesting defense in his indictment. Judge Eileen Cannon has been randomly assigned the Routh case. She is the same judge who dismissed Jack Smith’s Mar-a-Lago docs case (now on appeal).
On Thursday, Routh’s defense attorneys argued Cannon should recuse herself: “Were he [DJT] to become President in the future, he would have authority to nominate Your Honor to a federal judgeship on a higher court were a vacancy to arise. Taken together, these unprecedented facts and circumstances might create an appearance of partiality in the mind of the public. Accordingly, the Constitution and the federal recusal statute requires Your Honor to recuse herself from this case”. A pretty compelling argument since Cannon showed extreme partiality when she dismissed the Jack Smith case and she will likely be slapped down for a third time by the 11th Circuit. Will Cannon recuse herself in the Routh case? Stay tuned.
Dennis McIntyre Blog Breaking News! (Trademark): Jonathan: For starters, there was an “Oops” moment for Fox’s Bret Baier. He now admits he played the wrong DJT clip during his interview of Kamala Harris on Thursday.
The real breaking news Dennis is here to deflect from: Kamala Harris’s interview wasn’t an “Oops” moment – it was an all out disaster despite Democrat liars claiming she aced it.
Kamala Harris’s disastrous Fox interview finally exposed the central flaw of her empty campaign. She is unwilling to talk about her own agenda for America. She can only attack Donald Trump
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/10/17/kamala-harris-disastrous-fox-interview-exposed-the-central/
Meanwhile, some comfort for Dennis – the Harris Fox interview was a set up! Democrat propaganda journalists claim Bret Baier “set her up”. (Set her up to arrive late, not answer questions, filibuster, and flat out lie?)
Kamala Harris’s Fox News interview disaster shows how the media set her up to fail
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4938609-kamala-harriss-fox-news-interview-disaster-shows-how-the-media-set-her-up-to-fail/
Dennis, if you don’t come here to lie in exchange for getting some kind of sexual gratification from being mocked, jeered, and named a pathological liar with every fecal post you drop before running away to hide, why DO you come here?
Bair did admit that he showed the wrong Trump clip, which is what Harris was trying to explain to him. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4940441-baier-made-mistake-trump-clip-harris-interview/
” which is what Harris was trying to explain to him”
Baier admitted showing the wrong clip, that much is true. However, unless you have further evidence than has been widely reported, it is abundantly UNCLEAR that he did so in an attempt to entrap Harris, OR THAT HER THOROUGHLY GARBLED ANSWER WAS AN ATTEMPT TO POINT THAT OUT. Even in the unlikely event that both of those additional propositions were true, do you really want someone as POTUS/CinC who is that inarticulate and incapable of lucid communication? What kind of leadership could she provide in a national crisis requiring instantaneous decisions and actions if she is unable to explain herself to SecDef or NSC, for example?
Yes, Baier showed the wrong clip. The RIGHT clip shows Harris taking Trump out of context – which was the point.
“The enemy within” has no plain meaning that extrapolates to most americans.
It is a phrase that has been used many times by many people – including democrats.
It always is a reference to a small group within a larger whole that are sabotaging the wishes of the whole.
While context is not necescary as the PLAIN MEANING of the enemy within is a small part of the whole at odds with the whole,
With context it is clear Trump is refering to “the deep state”
Who are these people ? On the Republican side these are he Bill Kristols, the Cheney’s the Bolton’s and the rest of those on the right whose views of american’s role in the world has gotten us into “endless wars”. Are there plenty of Democrats with similar views ?
Absolutely – Hillary comes to mind immediately, But there is a long list of others.
To the extent that these people share a different view of america – they are NOT “the enemy within”
But they have SHOWN that they will use whatever power they have and they will abuse peoples rights to hold that power and continue to impose their minority view of the country by force.
And that is why they are “the enemy within”.
“Tell them, Jill, get your fat husband off the couch, get that fat pig off the couch. Tell him to go and vote for Trump…”
Did it even occur to you that Trump was sarcastically making fun of the media’s characterization of him?
are you that obtuse?
It does not matter – the left – Dennis has jumped the shark so far that Obesity is now being defended as a GOOD thing.
Trump’s remark was a generic insult that no one thinks applies to them.
Dennis is trying to persuade millions of voters that Trump was insulting them individually.
He is unable to grasp that people are capable of deciding for themselves when they have been insulted.
Yo Dennis —
Would love to hear you explain why Judge Juan Merchan never recused himself from the case when he had a glaring conflict of interest with his daughter who was making millions off of the Trump persecution?
‘Splain away.
“The demographic that could swing this election is also *the most mentally ill* —>
The AWFULs – Affluent White Female Urban Liberals.” @JohnLeFevre
Dennis – Any thoughts about Jack Smith and DC Judge Tanya Chutkan’s unprecedented, illegal (and impeachable), last ditch attempt to interfere in the election?
“Can someone pls explain the Arnold Palmer story to the White Soys for Harris???”
(talking ’bout you Dennis 🙂
“Zero media outrage: Kamala’s husband is credibly accused of battery
Extensive media outrage: Trump touchingly and humorously pays tribute to a dear friend and American legend in his hometown”
I agree with all of the above except the “borderline” adjective preceding the word “obese”–Trump IS obese.
you have a real hangup about weight. But you gave yourself away when you revealed that you discussed your weight with your doctor………………………
No, Tom- YOU accused me of being fat—-I told you my doctor disagrees. Every primary care physician monitors their patient’s’ weight.
I also made clear that I criticize Trump for his obvious obesity because he calls women “fat pigs “.
So Baier played the wrong clip ?
The point of playing the clip was to demonstrate that Harris was taking Trump out of context,
The fact is outside of left wing nuts, the rest of the country KNOWS, that “the enemy within” – is those in government that would abuse power against political enemies.
You Dennis are a dingbat devoid of critical thinking skill, you are “the enemy” in the sense that you say stupid things and empower government to infringe on others rights. But you are not “the enemy within”.
At the same time – I can not grasp where Trump’s “the enemy within” remark so offends you ?
You and Harris and Democrats have called Trump and republicans the enemy in most every utterance you make.
Hillary has ACTUALLY said that Trump supporters should be rounded up in consentration camps and reprogrammed.
Shades of Maoist China, Shades of the Cultural Revolution, Shades of the cambodian killing fields.
I would note that it is pretty universally the LEFT that rounds people up – and then “reeducates them” or simply murders them.
Regardless you say that electing Trump is the end of democracy – and you whig out over your own warped interpretation of “the enemy within””
Reality check for you – the Election of Trump IS going to result in purging of left wing nuts from positions of power.
It IS going to result in dismissal for cause for government employees who acted to infringe on the rights of others.
It MAY result in a few criminal prosecutions where OBVIOUS criminal conduct is exposed.
It is unfortunately NOT going to make a DENT in the left wing nut abuses of power inside this country.
Nor is that going to be the goal.
It is also NOT going to be the priority of a Trump administration.
The priority – which Trump has heavily campaigned on and which his victory will provide a mandate for
is “making america great again” – it is ending the endless wars and the idiocy that it is the US responsibility to police the world.
There was an excellent interview of John Meirschiemer – who has accurately predicted every Russian war since the collapse off the wall,
He not only unequivocally said there would have been no Ukraine war with Trump, but that even if there had it would have ended quickly.
That the Ukraine war is entirely on Biden – that Neither Ukraine nor Russia actually wanted the war, that Biden provoked it and that peace is impossible so long as Biden is in power.
That Joe Biden sought to be remembered for forcing Putin out of power and that he created the conflict and will not let it end until he has removed Putin.
That and those who support that are “the enemy within”.
“That interview showed DJT claiming immigrants are really not the threat but “radical left Democrat lunatics”. ”
Correct.
Yes, Harris – like you tries to point out distortions of what Trump actualy says.
Regarldess, in November your worst fears are going to come true – or not. Trump will be elected – it looks like he will do so easily sweeping the swing states as well as possibly a few states not supposed to be in play.
Then we will all get to find out if you dark and stupid warped misreading of Trump is actually true.
The majority of voters are not buying it.
The majority of voters KNOW where the threats to actually round up polical enemies come from
The majority of voters KNOW what party and people actually use power to F#$K over their enemies.
The majority of people KNOW who “suspends” – or just ignores the constitution.
You also seem to think that it was Baiers job to allow Harris to use Fox to make a campaign speech.
Harris agreed to be interviewed on Fox – that means Baier – the reporter controls the interview.
That HE gets to decide what is asked, what his viewers wish to hear – not the interviewee.
The same is true when Vance Trump, Mcdonald, Cotton, Hawley, …. go on CBS, NBC, CNN.
They have to figure out how to answers reporters questions in the way that also gets their message out.
Harris FAILED. Baier was far more forgiving and polite that most left wing nut journo’s.
He allowed Harris to get away with far too much.
At the same time – Baier actually did a service to Harris – had he allowed her to go off on her rants – she would have looked worse and with near certainty stepped into schiff.
Harris did badly – but less badly than 60minutes, and the view and oprah.
If she keeps up the tough interviews in a year or so she MIGHT actually get good at this – practice does improve people.
But she does not have a year.
The good news is that the interview did show that Harris can improve.
Though it still went badly for her.
It was especially bad – because her goal – what she NEEDS right now is to actually go to Fox, and to the places were undecided voters or even hostile voters are and to persuade them.
Personally I think Harris is between a rock and a hardplace – if she moves to the center – she alienates her left flank.
But she desparately needs centerist voters. And in 2024 centerists are a really really hard sell for Harris. Especially as she constantly embraces Biden’s policies. Biden has been a disaster as president,.
While I do not think Joe Biden is a left wing nut – the bait and switch in 2020 was to takevery nearly a blue dog democrats who could appeal to the center and persuade the left wing nuts that were going to vote for Harris, or Warren that Biden was a secret left wing nut.
That strategy worked well enough to each out a 40,000 ballot victory in swing states.
But it is not repeatable. Independents were lied to, to get their vote and in 2024 what we are seeing is “We won’t be fooled again”
Harris needs to move HARD to the center AND do so beleivably – and that is not possible.
Independents are breaking for Trump. That was always to be expected.
“Psychologists and psychiatrists say a deranged sociopath invariably projects his own personality disorders on others.”
Dennis – you do not know schiff about psychology.
I have no doubt Trump is a narcicist, maybe even a sociopath – as is Harris, and Biden and the vast majority of politicians – an ministers, and law enforcement, and teachers and successful business men.
Sociopaths are unbeleivably difficult to deal with – and many of them become criminals.
But others become incredibly successful businessmen and of great benefit to the rest of us.
Sociopaths are entirely about themselves.
But as Adam Smith observed and the left proves through failure over and over – incentives not intentions drive humanity.
You have all the good things in your life because YOU allowed someone else to profit to provide them to you.
Trump is seeking to be remembered – as is Harris, and Biden and Obama.
He will do as president what he needs to do to be favorably remembered for ever.
And that means “Make america great again”.
I stated above that Trump will “clean house” – but for those on the right who beleive that will be a thorough and effective house cleaning, You are deluded. 4 years is insufficient time for that. Further it will get in the way of Trumps actual objectives.
Regardless, my point is that you say Trump is a sociopath – So what ? Most successful politicians are. The most successful people in history are sociopaths. Harris is with near certainty a sociopath – more importantly she is NOT a very successful or smart one.
The most dangerous sociopaths are those that are not also very smart. That would be Harris, not Trump.
“Now I don’t know about you but if I was called a “fat pig” I would think twice about voting for DJT!”
So ? No one is expecting you to vote for Trump.
Regardless,m your argument is stupid – no one thinks a generic reference to couch potatoes is a reference to them.
“Were he [DJT] to become President in the future, he would have authority to nominate Your Honor to a federal judgeship on a higher court were a vacancy to arise. Taken together, these unprecedented facts and circumstances might create an appearance of partiality in the mind of the public. Accordingly, the Constitution and the federal recusal statute requires Your Honor to recuse herself from this case”.
An argument that is DOA – are you so stupid that you do not understand that applies to EVERY federal judge ?
Does Cannon have to recuse herself ?
No.
Might she ?
That depends on whether she wants to endure even more of this stupid nonsense
I do not know the details of the allegations against Routh or the law.
I am not exactly sure what the defense of someone hiding int he bushes with an AK47 to ambush the former president and his secret service detail are. But Routh is entitled to the presumption of innocence and a fair trial.
I do not know if you are correct regarding the 11th circuit. They seem to be stalling. They seem to be trying to stay out of the news.
If they uphold Cannon – Jack Smith is gone – not just from FL, but from DC.
If they do not uphold Cannon, this goes to SCOTUS, and Jack Smith is gone.
Personally I think we have a major problem with SC’s that we can not solve – I am not sure a constitutional amendment will solve it.
The older IC act was allowed to expire because it was likely unconstitutinal.
But the IC act was likely less unconstitutional than the current SC regs.
My guess is that SCOTUS is going to split the baby – they are NOT going to find the SC regs unconstitutional – even though they are.
Because if they do, there is probably not a constitutional way to investigate a president. And we actually do need that.
i would note that Cannon did NOT find the SC regs unconstitutional – though they clearly are.
She found that Jack Smith’s appoinment did not meet the reuquirements of the regs AND the constitution.
And she is correct on that.
If I had to bet the 11th circuit is going to dismiss Smith’s appeal as moot after he is fired in January to avoid having to decide the issue.
Because Cannon is likely to win before the supreme court.
Regardless the only reason Cannon Recuses from Routh is she does not want the case.
Routh’s argument is BS and applies to every federal judge that takes any case that a potential president has an interest in.
Routh’s attorny’s get points for creativity – that is their job,
But this motion is a loser.
“ Harris FAILED. Baier was far more forgiving and polite that most left wing nut journo’s.
He allowed Harris to get away with far too much.”
That’s not true. Baire kept interrupting and talking over Harris far more than he did when he interviewed Trump. She was prevented from making more detailed answers and pointing out things Fox News did not want its viewers to witness. The constant talking over Harris showed she could handle situations like that better than Trump. Trump would throw a fit.
Baier interrupted when Harris continued with her NON-response to the question asked, and instead began attacking Trump. Baier repeatedly tried to get her back on course.
You have NO idea whatsoever what Harris was going to say. In your typical silly authority-tinged silliness, you pretend to know that “She was prevented from…pointing out things Fox News did not want its viewers to witness.”
Getting really tired of your smart-alecky responses.
* Trump will “clean house”? It’s impossible. There are MILLIONS of bureaucrats. Layer after layer of corruption can’t be cleaned. Whole departments would be cut.
The dems have said if Trump wins they’ll burn the polling places.
* I love the the big black eye graphic. 😂
Throw caution to the wind and sue the helloutofthem…
“No, Trump Should Not Sue CBS”
The professor is treating this as a legal issue, which is wrong. He needs to forget the law and listen to what Trump wants. Trump wants to reveal to the nation that Kamala is incompetent. He cannot force the entire interview to be revealed, but he can make people talk about Kamal’s inability to face scrutiny.
Trump succeeded. Professor Turley is discussing it, Bongino is discussing it, the press is discussing it, and leftists on this blog are apoplectic and discussing it. Trump does this all the time. This is a media strategy. It is not haphazard but intentional. He makes a statement with words that cause angst from his followers and others but simultaneously opens his thoughts to the public through the press, wishes to undermine his chances of victory, and wants to ruin his chances. That is how Trump controls the discussion where the media is biased. We saw much of that in 2016, and this strategy continues to be effective.
S. Meyer,
Well said.
By making the threat, he only highlights how far CBS is willing to go to cover up Harris incompetence. MSM, CBS makes a big deal of it, it only exposes them more and even highlights Harris’s incompetence even more. Brilliant move by Trump.
Yes, Upstate. Trump is using the media to inform the public of issues the media wishes to hide. As you say, it is a brilliant move.
S. Meyer: Trump has no strategy–he is stupid, as multiple former members of his administration have said repeatedly. The word “moron” has been used to describe him. His thought processes are disorganized–so said multiple members of his former administration. Because he only deals with the last thing he heard, they had to strategize on how to get him to attend to the important things. He has a short attention span, which is why they had to “dumb down” the presidential daily briefings to no more than one page–either that, or he just didn’t care enough about the business of the United States to bother to pay attention. He refuses to listen to those who are more knowledgeable, like public health doctors, the military, those knowledgeable about economics and international politics, and he just can’t stop lying. His tender ego REQUIRES affirmation and attention, and he cannot handle being confronted with facts he doesn’t like to hear.
It’s truly funny that you MAGAs try to turn every failure of your hero into some kind of victory–Trump lies, says something outrageous–but that’s just to screw with “the media” No it isn’t, but–is that what a serious presidential candidate should do? You say he “opens his thoughts to the public”–you mean like the obvious penis envy he has by going off on Arnold Palmer’s genitalia at that rally in Latrobe, PA, Palmer’s home town–or maybe Trump is closet gay because he keeps playing “YMCA”–a gay anthem. Trump is incapable of “controlling” anything–including his big mouth, which is why he only appears in safe venues–with the cheering crowds, or on MAGA media. This is why his handlers keep cancelling interviews on non-MAGA media, and no more debates (because Harris kicked his ass, and he knows it) and only safe “town halls” with an audience filled with MAGA supporters. Did you see that interview that Trump blew with that Hispanic man and the looks on the faces of those in the audience? That’s wasn’t any kind of “biased media” situation or “strategy”-Trump blew it big time. His age and mental infirmities are catching up with him.
Hey if I was President Trump I’d be pissed at the msm and seek retribution for the lies they print and say. As a citizen I’m more pissed at the bias, distortions and lies that their force feeding Americans. All I hear from Dems is disinformation, misinformation but it’s ok as long as it’s about conservatives. So if there’s the slightest chance he can ruin their day, go for it.
I have all the answers to everything, but I am keeping them to myself.
I still believe that we need a strong “fourth estate” in a democracy. We need a neutral and objective media today more than ever.
Well duh! But this “ship of fools” ain’t it. I’m not sure where a truly neutral and objective media even exists anymore. It appears that the ideological divide in this country mirrors that of the media.
One thing we don’t need is a Fourth Estate with stronger 1st amendment protections than that of our citizens.
Olly, sad to say but the Fourth Estate are corporations and the SCOTUS said they are people too, and yes they do have more rights than people. And I don’t like it any more than you do.
Corportions are people. Churches are corporations.
All a corporation is, is a bunch of people coming together for a common purpose.
They do not lose their rights by doing so.
We do not have more rights when we act collectively
But we have more power to excercise those rights.