A Shift in Time Saves Nine: How The Trump Election Impacts the Supreme Court

Below is my column in Fox.com on the impact of the reelection of Donald Trump and the flipping of the Senate for the Supreme Court. The election may have proven one of the most critical for the Court in its history.

Here is the column:

In 1937, it was said that a critical shift of one justice in a case ended the move to pack the Court by Franklin Delano Roosevelt. It was described as the “shift in time saves nine.” In 2024, a shift in the Senate may have had the same impact. Trump’s victory means that absent a renewal of the court-packing scheme and other extreme measures of the left, the Court will remain unchanged institutionally for at least a decade.

The expectation is that Associate Justice Clarence Thomas could use this perfect time to retire and ensure that his seat will be filled with a fellow conservative jurist. Justice Samuel Alito may also consider this a good time for a safe harbor departure. They have a couple of years before they reach the redline for nominations before the next election.

The election means that court-packing schemes are now effectively scuttled despite the support of Democratic senators like Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D., R.I.). Given Kamala Harris’s reported support, the Supreme Court dodged one of the greatest threats to its integrity in its history.

The impact on the law will also be pronounced. Returning the issue of abortion to the states will remain unchanged. A younger generation will grow up in a country where the voters of each state are allowed to determine what limits to place on abortions.

Likewise, gun rights and religious rights will continue to be robustly protected. The checks on the administrative state are also likely to be strengthened. Pushes for wealth taxes and other measures will likely receive an even more skeptical court.

The possible appointment of two new justices would likely give Trump a total of five to six nominees on the court. Liberals previously insisted that it was time for Justice Sonia Sotomayor to leave the Court, a campaign that I opposed. The appointment of seven of the nine justices by a single president would be unprecedented. (I expect, as with the calls to “end the filibuster” as undemocratic, the liberal campaign to push Sotomayor to retire ended around 2:30 am on Tuesday night).

Trump has shown commendable judgment in his prior nominations. All three—Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett—are extraordinary jurists who have already created considerable legacies. I testified at Neil Gorsuch’s Senate confirmation hearing and still consider him one of the most consequential and brilliant additions to the Court in decades.

These justices were subjected to appalling treatment during their confirmation process, including attacks on Barrett for her adopting Haitian children. New Trump nominees can expect the same scorched-earth campaign from the media and the left, but they will have a reliable Senate majority for confirmation.

These justices have shown the intellect and integrity that bring credit to the Court, including each voting in key cases with their liberal colleagues when their principles demanded it. Trump can cement his legacy by continuing that legacy over the next four years with nominees of the same caliber.

In this way, the election may prove the key moment in ending one of the most threatening periods of the Court’s existence. With the loss of the control of the Senate, the push for new limits on the Court and calls for investigations of conservative justices will subside for now. However, the rage in the media and academia will only likely increase.

Both media and academic commentators pushed for sweeping constitutional changes, including packing the Court or curtailing its jurisdiction. Many saw the Harris-Walz Administration as the vehicle for such extreme measures. Harris herself pledged to “reform” the Court.

Some liberals figures even called for the dissolution of the Court and other radical changes.

Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the UC Berkeley law school, called for the scrapping of key constitutional elements in his “No Democracy Lasts Forever: How the Constitution Threatens the United States.” In a Los Angeles Times op-ed, he described conservative justices as “partisan hacks.”

In the New York Times, book critic Jennifer Szalai denounced what she calls “Constitution worship” and warned that “Americans have long assumed that the Constitution could save us; a growing chorus now wonders whether we need to be saved from it.” She frets that by limiting the power of the majority, the Constitution “can end up fostering the widespread cynicism that helps authoritarianism grow.”

In a New York Times op-ed, “The Constitution Is Broken and Should Not Be Reclaimed,” law professors Ryan D. Doerfler of Harvard and Samuel Moyn of Yale called for liberals to “reclaim America from constitutionalism.”

Other law professors have denounced the “constitutional cult” and the First Amendment as the Achilles Heel of America.

Given that the majority of voters reject panic politics and radical agendas, these figures are likely to become more activist and aggressive.

recently debated a Harvard professor at Harvard Law School on the lack of free speech and intellectual diversity at the school. I noted that Harvard had more than 75 percent of the faculty self-identified as “liberal” or “very liberal.” Only  5 percent identified as “conservative,” and only 0.4% as “very conservative.” It is not that Harvard does not resemble America, it does not even resemble Massachusetts in its virtual purging of conservative or Republican professors.

We just had a country where the majority of voters chose Donald Trump. Among law school faculty who donated more than $200 to a political party, 91 percent of the Harvard faculty gave to Democrats.

Yet, the professor rejected the idea that Harvard faculty or its students should look like America (only 7 percent of incoming students identified as conservative). So, while the Supreme Court has a strong majority of conservatives and roughly half of the federal judges are conservative, Harvard law students will continue to be taught by professors who overwhelmingly reject those values, and some even reject “constitutionalism.”

The result is that the Court will continue to be demonized while the media and academia maintain their hardened ideological silos.

The rage will continue and likely rise in the coming years. However, this critical institution just moved out of harm’s way in this election. It will remain the key stabilizing institution in the most successful constitutional system in history.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.” He teaches a course on the Constitution and the Supreme Court.

245 thoughts on “A Shift in Time Saves Nine: How The Trump Election Impacts the Supreme Court”

  1. The *SWITCH* in time that saved nine is what they called it when SCOTUS stopped striking down New Deal programs (despite their being blatantly unconstitutional) in reference the proverb “a stitch in time saves nine.” Thanks for all your great writing, Professor Turley!

  2. Saloth Sar here stopping by to see if the anti-Trump fanatics & Deep State sycophants have packed their bags for Canada yet since DJT won the election

    It might be wise

    In honor of deceased Comrade Duch who operated the infamous Tuol Sleng prison where many enemies of the people were incarcerated, we are proposing a new re-education facility in the Mojave desert and suggest it be called “Duch School.”

    There, worthless bureaucrats will learn new vocation of benefit to society– or else! “Those who do not work, do not eat” will be a new life motto for these former parasites who have sponged off the American working class too long!

  3. You MAGA chucklemonkeys are in for a bit of a shock.

    Home mortgage rates spiked after Trump’s win, despite the fact that the Fed is cutting rates.

    Why is that, you may ask ???

    The bond market is selling off, and yields are spiking, because the market believes inflation will inevitably rise under Trump due to his proposed tax cuts for billionaires, which will drive up the national debt, and tariffs, which will drive up consumer prices. This drives up mortgage rates.

    Also, companies are cancelling year-end bonuses for employees.

    Why???

    Because they are buying up as much inventory as they can before Trump starts his tariff insanity. They are using every penny they can lay their hands on to stock up on as much inventory as they can afford.

    Trump will take care of his billionaire buddies and people like you chucklemonkeys pay the price.

    1. It’s difficult to clean up the mess after “the [communist] lunatics have taken charge of the asylum,” right?

        1. Your psychotic, power-hungry-for-power’s-sake, anti-freedom, anti-Constitution, anti-American, communist flunkies and buffoons gave us all that and more.

          Thank you, comrade.

        2. ATS – what I would like is to hear from a real economist with a track record of success – not the New York Times.

          That said – cleaning up the Mess that Biden/Harris left is likely to be painful.

          In 2016 Trump was able to “stimulate” the economy buy reducing regulations, and more rapidly by seasing to enforce stupid and economically expensive regulations.
          He will with certainty do that again pretty much immediately.
          Though it is also certain that for the next almost 90 days the Biden/Harris admin will be in regulatory overdrive.
          That is normal as democrats leave office.

          But deregulation is only good for about $1T in economic stimulation.

          The problems in our economy are larger than that and Dergulation si the only federal actions that comes without pain.

          US inflation is still approximately 3% – that is down from January, and down from a peak of 9%.
          But it is more than double the rate of a robust economy and more than double what Trump left Biden.

          I would expect Trump to want to bring inflation down to about 1.2%

          That requires continuing to keep interest rates high – even raising them, until inflation is below 1.5%.

          The Fed controls interest rates – not the president. But I would guess that if Trump supports the Fed acting to clear inflation for the economy – they will do what it takes to do so.
          And atleast in the short run that will HURT.

          Currently interest on the national debt is $1T/yr. Under Trump it was about $200B. That is a huge difference.
          Bringing inflation down. ultimately will result in much LOWER interest rates – like those we saw in the 90s.
          That will be good for home buyers, that will be good for the economy, that will be good for the federal budget.

          I would also suggest that you read Agenda 47 – rather than Project 2025.

          Trump’s agenda 47 is What Trump promissed, what the GOP is promissing.
          And as Trump said in 2016 and again in his victory speech in 2024

          Promises Made, Promises kept.

          Ending inflation is #3 on Trump’s platform.

          Tarriffs are not in the platform anywhere.

          Fundimentally Trump is actually a Free Trader.

          He agressively uses Tarriffs and the economic might of the US to get other countries to agree to free trade with the US.
          Or as a foreign policy tool.

          The only Tarriffs that lasted to the end of Trump’s first term – were those on China – and Biden has left those in place and expanded them.

          Regardless, I am not interested in YOUR or the New York Times guesses as to what Trump will or will not do.

          What I will BET on is that Trump will do what he promised.

          That he will bring inflation down – if there is a way to do that without economic pain – I expect he and his team will find it.
          Personally I do not beleive in magic, unicorns and fairy dust.
          So my guess is short term interest rate increases until the last vestiges of inflation are flushed from the system.

          I expect Trump will try to act on that FAST, because it is best to have the short term pain at the start of the administration and hopefully be in recovery by midterms.

          1. “I WOULD FURTHER NOTE” that John Say continues to rant incoherently about things of which he has no understanding. He should confine his comments to his only known area of expertise, that being squirrels and rabies.

            What exactly is the point of the above incoherent rant about what the Fed should or should not have done in the past. That has nothing to do with the facts of what happened immediately after Trump was elected.

            The facts are very simple.
            Mortgage rates are not set by the Fed, but Fed policy may indirectly affect mortgage rates.
            Mortgage rates are set by lenders in response to what the bond market is doing.
            The day after Trump was elected, the bond market starting selling off, and yields spiked.
            This caused mortgage rates to spike.
            Bond traders attribute the bond sell off to fears that Trump’s policies of cutting tax rates for billionaires will increase the national debt, and his tariff policies will increase consumer prices.
            The net effect of these policies is increased inflation.
            Increased inflation always causes bonds to yields to spike.
            Increased bond yields always cause mortgage rates to rise.
            This is happening at the same time that the Fed is cutting rates.

            Thus, the only conclusion is that the bond market,which essentially controls mortgage rates, is fearful of increased inflation.

            These are the actual facts of what happened.
            Your incoherent ranting and rambling can’t change the facts.
            Your bizarre wishful thinking can’t change the facts.
            The simple facts are that bond traders are explicitly stating that fears of increased inflation caused rates to spike.
            End of discussion.

    2. * aw yes, instead of lawfare it’ll be econfare.

      It’s ok. Do your dance…no one cares.

    3. ATS
      When have you been right about anything ?

      “Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon”.
      Milton Friedman

      I would trust Nobel laurette Friedman far more than some reporter at the New York Times.

      But addressing the economy as a whole.

      I can not tell you for sure what will happen in the short term.
      Cleaning up the mess that Biden/Harris made as well as dealing with the problems they have been hiding, could be painful.
      Musk himself mentioned short term pain.

      Trump is not president yet – the FED which actually controls inflation and indirectly the bond markets and money supply is supposed to be independent,
      But even if it is not – it does not answer to president elect Trump.

      I do not know what the Fed WILL do. Bur what they SHOULD do – and what they SHOULD have done 2 years ago is raise interest rates further.
      Deliberately CAUSE the recession that has been likely inevitable, since Biden spent $6T and the Fed financed it by printing money.

      The FED should do what they did at the end of Carters presidency and the start of Reagan’s – deliberately CAUSING a recession to clear inflation out of the economy.
      That was painful – and resulted in 30years of continuous growth – the “great moderation”.

      As to the rest of your claims – most of us Trust Trump far more than we Trust your claims regarding Trump.

      For the record, the country has been teetering on the edge of recession for the past 2 years. The Fed and the Biden administration have been playing games to hold that off – until after the election.

      There is a small possibility that with Trump as president that recession can be avoided – We were headed into recession in 2016 – though for different reasons, and electing Trump turned the economy arround immediately.

      I think that is unlikely this time – as the damage to the economy by Biden harris has been too severe.

    4. When Obama won in 2008,

      I said two prayers.

      First I prayed that Barack Obama would be able to step into the shoes of president and do what was best for the country rather than the economic nonsense he had prattled as candidate.

      Second I prayed that if I was wrong about the first, that everything I knew to be true about economics would prove to be false – and that what Obama promised to to would miraculously work for the benefit of the country.

      Neither prayer was answered.

      What I will ask you is:

      Which is more important to you ?

      Smearing Trump, or the good of the american people ?

      If you care about the american people rather than ranting joyfully over the tiniest heavily spun indication that Trump may fail.

      You should be rooting that he acheives those ends he promised that you agree with.

      Don’t We all want inflation to come down ?

      Or would you rather gloat about a future that is entirely the speculation of the always wrong New York Times ?

      1. You cant reason with him, John.

        Elvis has lost what is left of his ARBD ravaged mind now that Trump is back. All of his pipe dreams about trump in prison garb are now dashed and he isnt handling it well.

    5. I’m under no delusion who supplies most of US revenues, the middle and upper middle class. That’s not going to change, same as Trump’s tax cuts that cost me about $7k/annual.

      Qs: how did any Americans except the already rich MIC, equity investors, Blackrock and Vanguard come out ahead from the Ukraine war? Did burning all Biden’s bombs in Ukraine and Gaza minimize global warming or make it worse? (Remember, carbon burning is an “existential threat!”) Since Covid the US printed about $15T dollars out of thin air (a short time ago printing a couple hundred billion was insanely huge and risky.) Did anything contribute more to American’s 25% loss in buying power since Biden took office than the aforementioned printing?

  4. When we lived in Richmond, it seems the following yard sign was everywhere

    IN OUR HOME WE BELIEVE: BLACK LIVES MATTER, NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL, SCIENCE IS REAL, FEMINISM IS FOR EVERYONE, WATER IS LIFE, LOVE IS LOVE, KINDNESS MATTERS MOST

    Now that Democrats have lost, some are expressing plans on reporting Latinos to ICE to deport them, punishing them for voting for Trump.

    ULPT request: I have a neighbor who’s a huge MAGA fan. He is Mexican-American and his two parents are here illegally and live with him. How would I go about reporting him and getting them deported? I’m in Florida
    https://www.reddit.com/r/UnethicalLifeProTips/comments/1gl7udy/ulpt_request_i_have_a_neighbor_whos_a_huge_maga/

    The OP has posted it multiple times all over Reddit because

    KKKindness matters!

  5. Dave McCormick has just been declared the winner of the Senate race in PA. That makes four Senate pickups for the GOP.

    1. “Dave McCormick has just been declared the winner of the Senate race in PA. That makes four Senate pickups for the GOP.”

      AND Pennsy gets rid (at least temporarily) of a legacy Dem pol. That always floats my boat. The legacy politicians always seem to be the worst and most arrogant, probably because they believe they are entitled by heredity to political power. Seems to me we fought some kind of war in the 18th century to rid ourselves of hereditary power…

    2. * Obviously the demos are playing government anymore. There’s no rules additionally Obviously. Who would have run such a losing ticket as Harris and Walz. Had to be a reason.

      Plant a garden … at least fuel will go down.

      Merry Christmas

  6. Jonathan: All things are not doom and gloom. Eight of the 11 state measures to restore a woman’s right to an abortion passed. It seems millions of voters still think a women should control her own body. But it does look like DJT will escape criminal prosecution in the two Jack Smith cases. They will go away because DJT’s new AG will make them go away. But as to the state prosecutions that myay prove a different matter.

    In the NY state case where DJT is a “convicted felon” Judge Marchan is scheduled to sentence DJT later this month. And given his additional 10 contempt citations he would normally see some prison. But legal observers believe Merchan will stay any sentence until after DJT completes his four years in office. What happens then? Given DJT’s desire to stay in office to avoid serving prison time, might he try to disregard the constitutional requirement that he only serve 2 terms. That’s possible because DJT thinks he can be a “dictator” on day one. That could cause a major constitutional crisis.

    Then we have the Georgia state RICO indictment of DJT and about 18 other co-defendants. DA Fani Willis has just won a second term. So if she survives the present appeal of the case she will proceed with her case. DJT’s indictment will probably be stayed but the cases against his other co-defendants will proceed. Willis already has 4 defendants who have pled out and others will probably follow. And the 47th President can’t make those cases go away.

    So these ongoing state cases will be interesting to watch. Like the one involving Steve Bannon and Elon Musk. Bannon just got out of prison after serving 4 months for contempt of Congress. He still faces a trial on criminal charges in NY for scamming donors over the promise to build DJT’s “big beautiful wall”. DJT can’t make that case go away.

    And Musk faces the same problem. The Philadelphia DA is suing Elon for his little illegal scheme to buy votes. Musk tried to remove his case to federal court. He lost and now faces a state court judge who has already scheduled a hearing this week. DJT can’t make that case go away either. Seems even billionaires can’t escape the justice system.

    So for a variety of reasons there will be plenty of both civil and criminal cases to discuss of those who thought they would escape justice their leader was re-elected. Boy, do they have a surprise awaiting them!

    1. * WHAT? A woman’s body isn’t a political issue AT ALL! You’ve put her body into some BS MF LAW?

      The only issue was or IF the government passed a law saying you shall have an abortion.

      Insanity– You’ll pay for it. Here’s one : all people in the United States shall register as organ donors. Here’s another, all people shall register their bone marrow and shall donate if called upon.

      True dolts

      1. ^^^ goes Dennis the Mac

        People’s freedom to travel was taken under covid. Mandatory Vax. Do not pass laws where none are needed.

        A woman is secure in her person and property. No one has access to her body nor any knowledge of it. Now they do.

    2. Jonathan: All things are not doom and gloom. Eight of the 11 state measures to restore a woman’s right to an abortion passed.

      Dennis, this is why you run away and hide like a coward after every one of your Dennis Drops His Daily Deuce: your ignorance is on display and you are terrified of every single comment that follows, calling you out.

      Those ballot measures INCREASED women having a state privilege to butcher their unborn baby far later during gestation than allowed by the federal Roe v. Wade decision before it. There are more elective birth control abortions since Dobbs for skanks whose Tinder dates went wrong than BEFORE Dobbs was decided.

      Here in Montana, CI-128 being passed is one of those 11 states. Montana previous to this initiative allowed elective birth control abortions up to the point of viability i.e. pretty much Roe v. Wade. That has continued unchanged under Dobbs – there was no need to “restore” legal permission to elect to choose to kill an unborn child.

      The state initiative passed here with the injection of tens of millions of taxpayer dollars from Planned Parenthood has now codified elective birth control abortions into our state’s constitution. And what has changed regarding elective birth control abortions? NOTHING.

      Abortions are STILL limited to the prior requirement that they be carried out before the point of viability of the unborn child.

      To make it simple for you, Dennis you parasite, the Montana state limitations on elective birth control abortions have not changed in the slightest.

      Face it Dennis: you STILL can’t lie often enough, hard enough, or convincingly enough to change anybody’s minds here.

  7. “The possible appointment of two new justices would likely give Trump a total of five to six nominees on the court.”
    **********************************
    And the Deep State was sure depriving Trump of a consecutive second term via lawfare and worse would end him. Looks like is ended their admnistrative state and the Dim Party. Heck of job, Bideny! I do love karma.

  8. A handful of Bee headlines for today:

    – Democrats call for abolishing the popular vote
    – Men getting lonely as text messages from politicians have stopped
    – Gender gap: woman only gets 78% of vote man gets
    – ‘Don’t despair,’ Kamala tells celebrating nation
    – Biden calls Trump to concede the election
    – Trump defeats Kamala, Hollywood, news media, deep state, FBI, universities, DOJ, political experts, science, medical community, all of Diddy’s homies
    – America unburdened itself from what has been

  9. The comments today have been fun and illuminating but after these first heady days the nation must turn to a way to permanently dodge the bullet that was nearly in our heart.
    What no one has really mentioned here is $Cash$.
    Harris had, by best estimates, had $1.4-2.0 billion dollars, to burn through with this election and still lost. You cannot have that kind of cash lying around and expect that the left wing that it supports to just disappear. Especially if they find a competent candidate.
    Revolutions and revolts survive on cash.
    We should all note that Russia and Iran were quiet 2017-2021 because they had no cash. Low oil prices (Drill, Baby, Drill) and an oil and financial embargo on Iraq. Russia is a gas station with nuclear weapons (no high price of oil, no cash) and Trump did that. Biden shutters much oil leases and natural gas and gives billions to Iran (lunacy) and it was all reversed.

    You have to go after the Cash in the US System that supports these left wing lunatics.
    Break up Google and Facebook, maybe even Apple.
    Go after Black Rock and other investment Monopolies that mandate DEI which is adverse to the portfolios of their investors.
    Go after the FCC which broke their own rules to allow the sale of 200 radio stations to George Soros.
    Go after George Soros and suggest states limit out of state contributions to local or state races like DA’s or place limits.
    Reform political action committees in the IRS to total transparency or just eliminate PACs altogether.
    Cut off university and professional school funding until all is done on merit and true diversity returns. If inclusion only means certain groups then, by definition, it means those not included are excluded. I think that is illegal.

    Lastly, by any means legally, remove all acolytes of Obama and his ilk from government service and prohibit their interactions with any nation considered a threat to the United States.

  10. Now President Donald J. Trump MUST pull a full “Lincoln” and declare English the sole official language of the United States, suppress the communist rebellion, prosecute a war on communists without a formal declaration, impose martial law, shred the Communist Manifesto and irrevocably extirpate all principles of communism from America, implement the “manifest tenor” of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, issue the “Deportation Proclamation” deporting all illegal aliens, past and present, including those who illegally pursued citizenship as criminal border crossers and “asylum” seekers who all made false and fraudulent claims of phantom, nonexistent persecution as foreign citizens with no U.S. rights, suspend habeas corpus, smash oppositional printing presses, podcasts, social media platforms, etc., and throw anyone and everyone who opposes him in prison.

    Yes. Lincoln was a great president!

    Make America Great Again!

  11. Don’t make the same mistake that Ruth Bader Ginsburg made when she died on the bench.

    Retirement isn’t a bad idea for some justices. Let Trump appoint some younger justices.

  12. Jonathan: I’m still licking my wounds. Never thought I would see a “convicted felon” being the next President of these United States of America. In fact, my close friends in Germany just sent me a message: “What’s going on there? Seems like you are making the same mistake we made with Hitler in the 1930s”. I had no good response.

    Now I am a realist. Kamala Harris lost for primarily 2 reasons. No. 1, Joe Biden should have stepped aside much earlier and acknowledged his infirmities much sooner. He should have stepped aside before the primaries and allowed the party to select another nominee. No. 2, Harris had little time to form a coherent campaign. And she failed to adequately address the legitimate concerns of working class Americans–the rising cost of almost everything–from buying a house, a car or groceries, to get college education for their kids. These frustrations were evident in the election results.

    One other legal analyst I follow frequently (not you) thinks there is one way Joe Biden could frustrate DJT’s chances of getting back in the WH. Biden, with all his presidential powers given to him by the SC, could simply declare that DJT is not qualified to serve under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Remember that the Colorado SC ruled that DJT is an “insurrectionist” and disqualified to hold any office under Sec. 3. DJT appealed that decision but SCOTUS only ruled DJT could not be kept off the primary ballot in Colorado. The Court never ruled on Sec. 3 disqualification. That could gum up the inauguration for some time if Biden decided to act. But will Biden do that? Unlikely. He has said “We accept the choice the country made”. At 82 Joe Biden is too old to grow a new pair!

    But there is some good news from the election. In my state women once again have the right to make their own reproductive decisions. That’s a big loss for the MAGA crowd in my state!

    1. Kamala Harris was the consummate incompetent ditz whose entire CV was “sexual relations with that woman” on the part of that eminent theoretical physicist, Willy Brown, and who is now, “fill[ing] the sky with the light of a brilliant, brilliant billion of stars” and the universe with incoherent word salads. 

      1. “But there is some good news from the election. In my state women once again have the right to make their own reproductive decisions. That’s a big loss for the MAGA crowd in my state!”

        Dennis is such a liar. He has previously claimed residence in MN, OH, TX, and CA. NONE of those states had abortion on the ballot.

        It appears that Dennis may be none other than Lawn Boy Elvis bug, since Colorado IS one of the states that expanded abortion rights.

        That explains a lot.

    2. Dennis,
      I feel sorry for you.

      You seem to have no ability for introspection.
      No ability to question what are essentially bad religious values with no basis in fact.

      This election was about much more than Trump.
      Republicans gained 3 seats in the Senate – holding 3 by the skin of their teeth. with 3 more possible pickups that are still too close to call.

      An incumbent merely holding a seat by less than 1% should be a wakeup call to that senator, that political party.

      Republicans are currently ontrack to pick up 4 seats in the house.

      Exit polls show the #1 issue was voters saying that Democrats have GONE TOO FAR – that men in womens sports and locker rooms, that the genital mutilation of children, that sexual indoctrination of preschoolers was a bridge too far.

      No one is talking about reversing Obergefell, much less Griswald or loving. Peeople are fine with LGBTQ+ rights.
      But the left went way too far.
      People are NOT OK with censorship
      They are NOT OK with forcing others to violate their beleifs – even beleifs they do not share.
      A big deal which I apparently missed was Harris saying in an interview that she would force a catholic doctor to perform an abortion on a 8 month fetus.

      The left has gone too far was the #1 issue.

      The #2 issue was “threat to democracy” – and voters decided that the left was a greater threat to democracy than Trump.
      The do not want lawfare. They looked at the political legal warfare against Trump and they cast their own verdict that it is all BS.

      The number #3 issue was abortion – abortion was a ballot initiative on 6 states. It receved a majority of votes in all 6 and passed in all except FL where it was a constitutional amendment that required 60% falling short by 3%. I would prefer not to see voters change constitutions by simple majority or without significant forethought.
      But I am perfectly fine with a simple majority of voters undoing laws passed by legislators. I did not look at every abortion referendum – but of those I did, I found them reasonable.
      I might have moved the lines a bit one way or another – but that is fine – voters can do that whenever they wish.

      It is turning out that one of the most reviled of recent supreme court decisions is working quite well in practice. The abortion issue is no longer a political issues.
      It is being decided byt he direct democracy that the left claims they love.

      Regardless, voters have no problem voting for abortion rights, and then voting for Trump and Scott, and other republicans.

    3. Thanks, Dennis: I agree with everything you wrote except for the reasons Kamala Harris lost: they are: misogyny and racism, messages which MAGAverse and Trump pounded to the hilt. They pandered to the resentments of non college educated white males and Latinos and portrayed Harris as “uppity”, “stupid”, “a DEI hire” someone who screwed her way to the top, a failed “border czar” (there never was any such thing), and blamed her for “an open border”–which is just another lie–all while Trump got Republicans to scuttle the Border Security Bill so he would have a fake issue to run on. And the MAGAs bought it. How many times did Trump insult Harris and call her names–all while she is the sitting Vice President? What other candidate in US history has ever done that to a sitting VP? It’s one thing to have a civil disagreement with opposing candidates on policy, but we’ve never before seen anything like the racism, immaturity, lies and vulgarity of Trump and MAGA. And, Turls– you OWN all of it because you chose to be part of it–the misogyny, xenophobia, racism, the lies–ALL of it–that’s on YOU, Turls, because you used your platform and voice to aid and abet the pending disaster that is on its way brought about by your participation.

      How many times have you seen comments on this blog about voting for Trump for the purpose of “sticking it” to what the MAGAs believe are those who are “elite”, along with criticism of colleges and college-educated people? Trump’s campaign was pathetically un-American–lie after lie about nearly everything, aided and abetted by MAGA media, of which Turls is a part–they actually managed to convice MAGAs that America is in decline–which just is NOT true. We have an economy that is the envy of the world which Biden created from the ashes of the Trump recession. The MAGAs forgot what Trump did with the successful economy created by Obama, his lies about COVID, the unnecessary deaths, his utter lack of skill in marshaling assets needed to get vaccines distributed, the high unemployment, the long lines at food pantries, schools, businesses, restaurants closed down and new daily records for deaths and infections. They managed to convince MAGAs that the cost of groceries will magically go down–which it won’t–and that it was Kamala Harris’s fault–which it wasn’t. They lied about migrants stealing and eating pets and running rampant, raping women, committing crimes, overwhelming small towns, taking away jobs from blacks, etc.. They KNOW that MAGAs don’t know any better–and this is my beef with Turls–he KNOWS it, too and helps shovel lies to the gullibles. He defends the lying by claiming that the First Amendment protects it and that it’s just part of what Turls calls the “age of rage”–all to sell some book that is apparently not selling so well.

      You say that in your state abortion rights have been enshrined–not so fast, Denny–if Trump appoints an AG who will enforce the dormant Comstock Act that outlaws use of the US Mails to send abortifacient medications, that right may well be impaired, because the overwhelming majority of abortions are medication abortions. They could also replace everyone at the FDA and withdraw Mifepristone and Misoprostol from the market–do you think for one minute that RFK, Jr. wouldn’t do it? They could also enact the fetal personhood act that would provide that a fertilized egg is a person with full rights–no more state protections for abortion. Women will die unnecessarily while doctors are hamstrung to help them. That, too, is on YOU–Turls.

      1. Thanks, Dennis: I agree with everything you wrote except for the reasons Kamala Harris lost: they are: misogyny and racism, messages which MAGAverse and Trump pounded to the hilt.

        Excuses straight out of communism… nobody saw that coming from Gigi. Marx and Engels explained the rejection of worker class people who wouldn’t support and push for rule by communist totalitarians by claiming that those who didn’t agree with them only did so because they were “deceived by their false consciousness”. You’re pretty much doing a re-run of those two commies making excuses for your losses – pretty much the same excuses as Bolshevik Barack and his husband Moochelle attempted and leveled against black men and women.

        Gigi, you should ask for a guest spot with the other harpies – the yentas on The View who used the exact same excuses. Black and Latino men refusing to vote by race for a candidate that was also brown instead of white proved they are racists! Couldn’t be because that woman was incompetent and insulted them regularly. And women of any color refusing to vote by their gender – they are misogynists! They couldn’t have refused to support the Cackle Ho because they were appalled she was pushing trannies into their daughters change rooms and forcing their daughters to submit to trannies competing against them in womens’ sports.

        The majority of Americans, regardless of sex (either of the two) or skin color, voted AGAINST you, and your filth, perversions, and lies.

        Not because of skin color, or whether the candidate stood or squatted to pee – but because YOU CHOSE A SH!TTY CANDIDATE WITH A HORRIBLY SH!TTY RECORD FROM EVERY JOB SHE EVER HELD.

        Real women – of which you are not one – are grateful that knob gobbler Harris that you ran as your candidate was not elected. When the first female (not “Birthing Person”) is elected president, they want it to be a woman whose performance in office will leave an indelible impact on their nation and their nation’s international affairs. A woman who nobody will dare say “She only got where she is because she’s a woman that puts out for the right powerful men”.

        Margaret Thatcher as the first female prime minister of the UK is an example of such a woman. Harris in comparison began her career as a sex toy for an elderly powerful politician, and ended her political career as a failed DEI hire. Not what women (or men) want to hold up in front of their daughters and tell them “You can succeed just like Kamala did!”.

    4. In my previous post I wrote about why VOTERS said they had voted as they did.

      I strongly suspect the coup against Biden was a factor – but only as another example of the left going too far.

      What was evident was that voters did not care WHO the democratic candidate was
      To the extent they cared HOW that candidate was chosen, that would only be because the 2024 process was further evidence that democrats will do anything to get their way.

      Voters did not vote as they did because of NARROW policy reasons. They did so for BROAD reasons.

      They want an end to chaos. They want a president wise enough and strong enough to stop wars throughout the world.
      They want our foreign policy to be based on OUR interests.

      Exit polls noted that the big wave of women voting against Trump and republicans did not materialize.
      I think there are several reasons for that.
      Dobbs has given women the power to get the laws they want regarding abortion via referenda,
      freeing them to vote for candidates based on issues other than abortion.
      But another issue that likely drove women that was not reported on is that Women care about whether their sons and daughters might be sent off to fight in these endless wars.

      Harris and democrats featuring Chenney, and other NeoCons was a HUGE political mistake.
      Little could have made Harris more of a threat to voters than campaigning with Liz Cheney.
      That was an own goal on the part of democrats.

      1. John Say: nope. It’s simple, really: racism, misogyny and lies, lies, lies, pandering to those who felt left behind by college educated women and minorities. There is NO comparison: Trump, a trust-fund baby who has squandered more wealth that he got from gifts and inheritance than most of us can imagine. Someone who is a pathological liar, convicted criminal, thief of classified documents, misogynist, failure at multiple businesses, failure at multiple marriages, a malignant narcissist who started an insurrection because he lacked the character to admit he lost a free and fair election. He brags about assaulting women and was adjudicated of sexual assault, falsifying business records and stealing from a charitable foundation. Despite losing, he refused to shut up, go away and allow the people’s choice to lead. Billionaires who wanted to put over this former reality TV performer to keep their tax breaks and rolling back of environmental and consumer protection regulations, started up media outlets to peddle lies about Democrats, to push his candidacy, based on racism, lies, xenophobia, Islamophobia and misogyny and to hire people like Turley to give them credibility. At the heart of it all, Trump is a massive failure–he was the worst president in recent history, he accomplished little to nothing other than tax breaks mostly benefitting the wealthiest, he tried to pay back Putin for helping him cheat his way into office, and he offended our EU and NATO allies. He is an international joke–other world leaders see him for the emotionally-weak fake “strong man” who is vulnerable to flattery and who has a pathological need for attention and affirmation.

        Kamala Harris, raised by a single mother who was a cancer researcher, has a law degree, was a courtroom prosecutor, District Attorney, Attorney General and U. S. Senator. Her campaign was focused on helping the middle class, enshrining reproductive rights, creating a path to citizenship for immigrants and making the wealthiest pay their fair share of taxes, helping first-time parents and first-time home buyers. She was dignified and articulate, but she was also bi-racial, something that Trump and MAGAs pounced on–pandering to racism and resentment of whites who feel that they have lost their perceived position of superiority. Trump simulated fellatio with a microphone, did a 12-minute riff on Arnold Palmer’s penis, called Harris names, accused her of being stupid, a “DEI hire”, lied about migrants stealing and eating people’s pets, lied about migrants committing crime, running rampant, not working, going on welfare, lied about America’s economy being “in decline”, lied about his record, and played the victim because he was indicted and convicted of crimes that would have landed the rest of us in jail–and rightfully so. What does Trump stand for–a success as President? Nope. A chronic, habitual liar–absolutely. A reality TV performer who bamboozled gullible people into believing that America is in decline and “only he” can save it? Yes. Someone who played on the resentments of the non college educated, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, racists and misogynists? Yes. It’s not really that deep, John. Americans really don’t want abortions and IVF banned. We really don’t want billions of our tax dollars spend on deporting millions of migrants, or concentration camps. We don’t want the Department of Education and NOAA abolished, or cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and school lunches for poor kids to pay for tax cuts to the wealthiest. We don’t want our air and water polluted or banks and corporations abusing consumers. We don’t want immunizations to go away so that kids will get polio, diphtheria, measles and pertussis again, and who in their right mind wants a brain-worm infested lunatic like RFK, Jr. in charge of health, food, and, according to Trump to “go wild” on medication?

    5. Your blow up doll candidate lost for 3 reasons and 3 reasons only:
      1) Killing babies is an over rated election decider in this country.
      2) The nauseating repetition of Trump as monster was sophomoric at best, and voters saw right through it.
      3) The idiotic attempt to cancel real men and replace with snowflakes backfired in biblical proportion.
      Now shut up and go away

    6. Dennis
      To the extent the lawfare against Trump was a factor in this election – it hurt democrats.

      You are correct that SCOTUS rejected the idiotic idea that States could use the 14th amendment to remove candidates.
      But if you actually read the 14th amendment – and the Supreme court decision
      ONLY CONGRESS has the power to enforce the 14th amendment.

      Rep. Raskin is free to challenge Trump’s election on J6 2025.

      Of course by doing so he will be proving that Trump did NOT foment an “insurrection”.
      He will be proving that congress has the power to “overturn” an election. That a candidate and protestors demanding that congress refuse to certify and election are completely within their rights.

      But if Democrats wish to demonstrate massive hypocracy and continue to prove to voters that they are two extreme to be trusted with govenrment
      Please go ahead.

      Biden however has absolutely no power with regard to the 14th amendment.
      Can we PLEASE quit trying to manufacture changes int he constitution from thin air.

    7. Just to be clear DM – the Supreme court in the Colorado case decided based on the PLAIN TEXT of the constitution that the power to enforce A14S3 rests with CONGRESS.
      Not the states, not the president. No Biden can not decide that Trump is unqualified.

      It is absurd nonsense like this that is why you lost.
      Voters decided that the actual threat to democracy was from those that are constantly looking for ways to stretch the law and constitution – expecially when they do so to thwart political enemies or accomplish political goals.

      You clearly are NOT paying any attention to voters.

    8. Dennis,

      Women did vote for less restrictive abortion laws.
      And then they voted for Trump, Republican Senators, and Republican representatives, and Republican governors.

      MAGA did not lose. Pro-Life voters lost.
      Trump and republicans kept their promise to return the power to decide abortion laws to the voters, not the courts.
      They did that.

      As Trump likes to say

      “Promises made, Promises kept”.

      Trump did NOT promise to make abortion illegal.

      In 2022 Dobbs was a problem for Republicans.
      In 2024 and into the future it removes abortion as a political issue.
      As we have seen in state after state – it will be decided by voters.

      In Florida a constitutional amendment that protected abortion before 24weeks NARROWLY failed.

      I personally oppose putting abortion into state constitutions. But I have no problems with voters repealing restrictive abortion laws by referenda,
      or changing restrictiv abortion laws by referenda.

      Regardless, I would expect that if pro-choice voters in FL come back in 2026 with protections before 20weeks – that will pass.

      I would also bet that if in places with nearly unlimited abortions that refernda restricting abortions after 24weeks would pass in places like New York.

      Dobbs is actually working.

      It is returning the issue of abortion to voters,
      It is removing it as a political litmus test.

    9. The pollsters who got 2024 (and 2022 and 2020 and ,,,) right – Rassmussen, Atlas Intel, …

      Are telling us that despite the swings in other polls and the fixation on each individual news cycle and the alleged outrages of the day,
      That voters decided this election BEFORE the June debate, and that very little changed since.

      That they did not care whether Harris or Biden was the candidate, That they did not care whether Biden was competent.

      That while they did care about specific policies, the #1 and #2 factors in the election were:

      Democrats have gone TOO FAR – they are out of control – not Biden, Not Harris – but the entire democratic party.

      Democrats are the threat to democracy.

    10. Popular vote

      2012 Obama 65M Romney 61M
      2016 Clinton 65M Trump 63M
      2020 Biden 81M Trump 75M
      2024 Harris 68M Trump 72M

      I would note that from 2012 (you can go back farther than that).
      Democrats have had a ceiling to the number of votes they can get of about 65M – with very small growth with each cycle
      With the exception of 2020. When democrats running a lackluster candidate outperformed historical trends by 15m votes.

      It is extremely reasonable for most people to conclude this was the result of fraud or other unusual or lawless conduct.

      Regardless, Except 2020 – Democrats appear to have a ceiling of about 65M votes increasing by about 250,000/yr
      Republicans have steadily increased by an average of 1M/year.

      The issue is NOT the candidates, or the strategy.

      The democrats base is growing at a far slower rate than the republican base.

      I would strongly suggest that those on the left may wish to look both at how the swing states in the past 4 elections are moving republcian,
      But Also many other blue states are slowly moving republican.

      Florida was a swing state for many years. It is not anymore.
      Ohio was a swing state for many years. It is Not anymore.

      Nevada was not a swing state – it is now.

      Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina MIGHT flip blue in a few more cycles.

      Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin are likely to flip red in the next few years.

      Virginia is likely to be a swing state in the next presidential election.
      Minesota may be a swing state in the next election.

      It may take another cycle or two but Illinois is trending towards republicans slowly,
      as is new york and new jersey. These are not going to be swing states anytime soon – but they are moving to light blue.

      There have been predictions that TX would flip blue
      Trump won TX by 12pts and Cruz won by 10pts. Despite predictions TX does not appear to be moving.

      Rather than Hispanic voters moving TX to democrats. Shifts in hispanic and other minorities are shifting the country to republicans.

      1. “as is new york and new jersey. These are not going to be swing states anytime soon – but they are moving to light blue. ”

        Yes, ~47% of NJ voters voted for Trump. That is huge in this state, with people very much concentrated in what used to be the Deep Blue northern part of the state. Also while South Jersey leans Republican, every county here save two (Camden and Burlington) heavily favored Trump. In Ocean County, Harris did not get even 40%.

      2. Are you trying to use unofficial 2024 numbers (while numbers are still being tallied) and compare them to final 2020 numbers?

        Yeah, that makes sense.

      3. No John, you are wrong. The results of this election were more based on misogyny, racism and lies than actual support of MAGA from the majority of Americans. Republicans are the ones losing support because of their failed policies—look at 2018, 2022.

        MAGA media endlessly lied about our economy, knowing that most Americans are ignorant of how economics work. So if groceries are higher, then the economy must be failing—you aren’t better off and it must be Biden’s fault—forgetting how bad things were when Trump was kicked out in 2020. In fact, big corporations that sell food have been engaging in price gouging and are enjoying record profits—something that Harris pledged to address, which is why they spent so much money pushing the lies and campaigning against her.

        1. “look at 2018, 2022.”

          Are you fvcking stupid? Republicans took back the house in 2022, you imbecile. Now they held it and took the Senate. I guess that was just racism and misogyny too. Idiot.

    11. Dennis,

      You seem to miss ALL the lessons of this election.

      First as I am other have said many times – we are in the midst of a political realignment.

      Republicans are becoming the party of the working class and the middle class.
      Each election for almost 20 years has been in that direction. As I noted Republicans are gaining 1M voters per year. Democrats are gaining 250,000.
      Democrats are slowly loosing working class and middle class voters.
      They are loosing minority voters as they enter the working class and middle class.

      If Democrats wish to remain relevant as a party they can not allow that Trend to continue.

      One of the OBVIOUS problems is that democrats continue to fixate on “identity”.

      You are black, hispanic, female, gay, trans – Democrats PRESUME they OWN your vote. They PRESUME the KNOW your values, and that they speak for you.

      Republicans conversely have been appealing to voters based on VALUES. Not identity, and they are slowly winning them.

      Republicans did not target hispanic voters, or black voters, or maile voters or arab voters or jewish voters or union voters or asian voters.
      But they made gains in all these groups by addressing common american Values that are shared by majorities accross all identities.

      While both Harris and Biden were abysmally bad candidates – and frankly democrats have few good candidates for the future.

      Voters did not reject Harris because of all the issues you raise – though they did not help.

      They rejected democrats because they are too extreme, because they have gone too far, because they have lost touch with ordinary Americans.

      Harris did not lose because she did not say the right things, she lost because people did not beleive that she held the right values.
      That is not about what you say. It is about what you do.

      For democrats to regain the support of a majority of voters they must start saying what voters want to hear and then DOING what they say.

      Democrats can not do that without losing the far left.

    12. “In my state women once again have the right to make their own reproductive decisions.”

      Unless they have been knocked up by rape, women have always had the right to make their own reproductive decisions. It’s call NOT HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX. This is just another ridiculous belief of delusional Democrats, among others. Men also have that same option – don’t want to be a father, or end up paying child support. Don’t have unprotected sex.

      I guess you can continue to distract yourself from doing the heavy lifting of self-introspection by obsessing about killing babies, or maybe insuring that Poor Little Trans Kids can opt to remove their weenies and breasts.

    13. Dennis
      I am 100% sure your wounds are not the only thing you’re licking. Love to you Gigi, Fishwings, Sammy, Annoyingus and all the other sock puppets from the MAGA Trump Voters.
      PRESIDENT Trump!

    14. “Jonathan: Now I am a realist.”

      No, you’re a pathetic liar – pretty much the opposite of a realist.

      And you’re not a very good liar at that.

  13. * The count for Trump currently 318 electoral and popular vote. Landslide, tsunami, avalanche, electnado.

    United States of America, USA, wins against the Libertine States of America, LSA.

    1. @Anonymous

      Yup. It is the biggest non-dem victory since 1988, apparently. It is sadly ironic that all those kids that watch ‘Stranger Things’ and crave the nostalgia of the 1980s fail to understand those were, ‘the Reagan years’, and said people, all above the age of 18, are currently sitting around playing with Legos in our universities (yes, this is real. Google it) to try to cope. There is nothing for it. The Obama era was a dumpster fire that will likely be studied in the future, there was no sanity there, zero. Let us hope we can repair the damage done.

  14. Hopefully, President Trump will consider JT for one of the next openings on the Court. RFK Jr would be another worthy pick.

    1. Professor Turley may not stoop to the Supreme Court; he should more appropriately be nominated for the position of deity.

      RFK, while, at times, exhibiting a degree of coherence, remains merely a resultant melodramatic hero of the machinations of villains, a product of the fictional screenplay written by “dirty” bootlegger money that was the false and fraudulent Camelot, 1960.

  15. Turls: you are an unfunny joke–why don’t you just don a jester’s hat and dance around to entertain the MAGAs instead of pretending that you have anything resembling intellectual honesty in the field of law? You say such stupid and intellectually-dishonest things like: “The election means that court-packing schemes are now effectively scuttled despite the support of Democratic senators like Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D., R.I.). Given Kamala Harris’s reported support, the Supreme Court dodged one of the greatest threats to its integrity in its history.”

    Uh, Turls: the SCOTUS is viewed by most Americans as not having ANY integrity, which is why there have been proposals to increase the number of Justices to increase diversity of opinion. Turls: you KNOW that the Constitution does not contain any requirement for any specific number of Justices and that, in our history, there have been varying numbers over the years. How is having a balanced SCOTUS populated by Justices who more closely reflect the views and values of most Americans when it comes to the ultimate interpretation of our law and the Constitution a “threat to its integrity”? It’s the presence of the Leonard Leo Federalist Society radicals that IS the “threat to its integrity”, and you know it, which is why most Americans have an unfavorable view of the SCOTUS.

    You also down-play the radical right wingers, vetted by the Federalist Society, as “conservatives”. No, they aren’t–they are right-wing radicals, with views far outside the mainstream of American views and values. Turls: you keep trying to make the case that, somehow, it’s OK to have the SCOTUS packed by someone who cheated his way into office in 2016 with the help of Russian hackers, and whose campaign in 2024 was based on lies, like “America is in decline”, “we have open borders”, and the endless misogyny, racism, xenophobia and lies about almost everything. The majority of Americans voted against this person in 2016, but he found a work-around with the help of Russian hackers.

    Let’s look at how we got stuck with Barrett, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch: Obama was denied a SCOTUS pick by McConnell due, allegedly, to the proximity of the election, but when the shoe was on the other foot, with the election in even closer proximity, Barrett got shoved onto our Court after the death of Ruth Bader Ginsberg. All 3 of them–without exception–lied about their position on abortion–claiming that it was “settled law” and that they would honor “stare decisis”–all LIES you, Turls, are paid to defend. It’s not working. Just look at how referendum measures on abortion have fared–Americans WANT the protections of Roe v. Wade, even in ruby-red states. Here’s another little thing you deliberately don’t mention–the Comstock Act–dating back to the late 1800’s–that outlaws using the US Mails to send abortifacient materials, especially medications, but it could also include surgical instruments, anesthetics and other items needed for surgical abortions. All Trump has to do is appoint a radical right wing AG who will enforce the Comstock Act, and all of those state abortion rights magically go away. Do you really think he wouldn’t do it?

    Turls–you are SO full of it: “The rage will continue and likely rise in the coming years. However, this critical institution just moved out of harm’s way in this election. It will remain the key stabilizing institution in the most successful constitutional system in history.” They actually pay you to spout drivel like this, but most of us don’t buy it. YES, there will be rage–why? Because we are stuck with a SCOTUS that was vetted by the Federalist Society, with the majority of Justices nominated by the most-dangerous demagogue in US history–someone manifestly unfit for office–a convicted criminal, adjudicated fraudster, adjudicated of sexual assault, defamation, thief of classified documents and charitable foundation money, who belongs in prison because the rest of us couldn’t do the things he has done and get away with it. This is someone who panders to xenophobia, misogyny, Islamophobia and racism–all very un-American things–and this SCOTUS found a way to give this loser a strong measure of shelter from criminal prosecution. The SCOTUS is far from a “stabilizing institution” when it is populated by people willing to lie to get the power to take away key Constitutional rights of Americans and support a massively unqualified malignant narcissist, which is why most of us have an unfavorable opinion of the institution.

    1. LOLOL. No one is buying your BS, except the other Stockholm Syndrome victims. We do not want your lies, your central authoritarianism, your pessimism, or your death cult.

      ROT!

    2. @’Gigi’

      You just outed yourself as being multiple trolls on this site with your ‘Turls’ (good to know you are, at the least, *one* of the Anonymi). Give it up, already. Very, very, VERY clearly, none of us give a sheet after this week, Natacha. Imagine what you could do with that energy if you put it into something productive that actually helped other people, enriched their lives, or broadened their minds; just a teeny little bit of human kindness.

      That you can’t makes it clear: there is just something wrong with you. That you have the time on your hands to continue this even after the past week’s events – just sad. I almost want to give you a hug, you must be a very, very lonely person.

      1. Gigi, I hope you’re getting paid by someone to regurgitate the bile you’re always spewing. If I wrote something so obviously stupid, I wouldn’t want to look at myself in the mirror. Why don’t you do us all a favor and show us your Bio so we can know what floats your boat.

        1. Robert: why can’t you respond with facts and counter arguments instead of personal attacks? Isn’t it because you know I’m correct, and that you, like MAGA media, attack people with whom you disagree when you don’t have any counter arguments or facts?

    3. <<"…with views far outside the mainstream of American views and values."

      Denied – By a landslide avalanche of voters who obviously don't buy that rubbish.

      Obviously you meant to indicate those views are outside that small minority section of leftist radicals who have now destroyed the democrat party and just pitifully lost an election of such proportions of which have not been seen in at least the last two decades.

      1. Uh, Anonymous–the “avalanche of voters” voted to enshrine abortion rights. Didn’t MAGA media tell you that in 8 out of 11 states, including red states, voters enshrined abortion as a state Constitutional right? They would have in Florida, too, if Republicans hadn’t changed the law to require a 60% vote. The measure got 57%–which means even most Floridians wanted abortion as a state right, but Republicans don’t care about what most voters want. And, Trump and MAGA is all about lies, misogyny, xenophobia, racism and resentment of educated women and minorities. The biggest lie was about our economy, which Biden resurrected from the mess Trump left. Gullible people somehow believed that our economy, which is the envy of the world because we are doing better than any other country right now, also believe Trump is going to bring down the cost of groceries and housing. That won’t happen. Fasten your seat belt–the next 4 years will be very rough.

      1. Upstate–NO! AMERICA lost–wait and see what your hero does to everything–the economy, health care, education–just wait and see. He screwed it all up before and will do so again because all of those dedicated public servants that he calls “the deep state” won’t be there to prevent him from using the power of government to get revenge, to benefit his donors and to take away consumer and environmental protections. We won’t have a Gen. Kelly to divert him away from his megalomanaical impulses. We’ll have a demented lunatic with a brain worm, with no medical background, in charge of health and food and Trump will let him “go wild with medicine”. It will be a disaster of epic proportions.

        1. General Kelly is a lying piece of shit. He broke his oath and violated UCMJ Articles 88, 133 and 134 and should be prosecuted for it.

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