Below is my column in the New York Post on the effort of Alvin Bragg to suspend the criminal case against President-Elect Donald Trump for almost five years. It would be a terrible choice for the court and for the country.
Here is the column:
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg pushed Tuesday to create a new constitutional creature: the layaway president.
It was once common for stores to hold expensive items that you really wanted but could not make the payment.
So they were tagged and kept on the shelf until you were ready to redeem your item.
For Bragg, that leaves Donald Trump tagged until 2029.
In a filing before Manhattan Justice Juan Merchan, Bragg suggested that the court should stay the pending criminal case and defer any sentencing “until after the end of defendant’s upcoming presidential term.”
That would allow a city prosecutor to put a leash on a sitting president for four years.
Trump would govern by the grace of this local judge and district attorney.
In the meantime, pundits and politicians could portray the president as free on a type of work release program.
The suggestion is appalling to most of the people in the country, including the majority of voters who voted for Trump.
Vice President Kamala Harris and Democrats ran on this and other cases in the election.
The result was arguably the largest jury decision in history.
That being said, I do not believe that the mere election of a president negates jury verdicts on 34 criminal counts.
But ample reasons exist to overturn those verdicts or to dismiss this case.
For example, after the verdict, the Supreme Court rendered its immunity decision barring the use of certain evidence against a president.
Some of the evidence used in the Manhattan case likely fell within one of the protected categories.
The prosecutors not only elicited testimony from Trump aides in the White House but then doubled down on the significance of that evidence in their closing arguments.
Merchan could declare that the court cannot rule out the impact of such testimony on the final verdict.
Even if Merchan, as expected, does not dismiss the case on the basis for the immunity decision, the trial was rife with reversible error.
This was a raw exercise of lawfare and Merchan did little to ensure fairness toward the defendant.
Yet none of those errors can be likely addressed until Merchan reaches final decisions on the motion to dismiss as well as the sentencing question.
While that will mean that Trump could, upon possible sentencing, formally become a convicted felon, the matter can then be finally pried out of the hands of Merchan and taken to higher courts for review.
The worst possible option is the one suggested by Bragg, who would adopt the popular persona of Trump’s turnkey.
The President would be seen by many as governing on a type of conditional status from one of the most politically compromised prosecutors in the country.
For Bragg and other Trump opponents, that may be far more satisfying than a sentencing now given the unlikelihood of any jail component.
After the years and millions spent on the case, it would be the ultimate buzz kill to have Trump sentenced to some fine or other non-carceral penalty.
Many Democrats want to have Trump govern with an asterisk of a “President pending sentencing.”
Instead, Trump would govern with the clock ticking toward a sentencing date.
It is a dangerous precedent. Such pending sentences can have a coercive impact on a president in dealing with given officials, including a state governor who might be willing to pardon a president.
Consider the effort of the governor of New York in restoring the lucrative state and local tax, or SALT, deductions.
There is no reason to believe that Trump would succumb to such leverage (and he has already indicated that he would consider the change).
However, any decision on policies like SALT would be the subject of speculation of whether a reduction in taxation was made in the hope of a reduction in incarceration.
Critics would suggest that New York is yanking on the leash to achieve policy advantages.
This is the same judge and prosecutor who gagged the leading candidate for the presidency in discussing aspects of the case in the months leading up to the election.
Now, they would allow him to govern pending their own suspended decisions on his future.
The Trump case was always a thrill kill for Bragg.
Under Bragg’s proposal, his supporters would prolong that thrill for four more years.
The cost, however, would be devastating for the country.
This country needs a president, not a president on layaway from the Manhattan District Attorney.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
Yet listen to the “liberal” trolls in here, trying to defend this.
Biden’s intentionally inciting rage across the board and intentionally escalating this into a global war before Trump can take office, and they are actually in here defending it.
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November 20, 2024 2:49PM EST-
Proposed US Landmine Transfers Gravely Threaten Civilians
Reprehensible Rejection of 1997 Mine Ban Treaty
(Washington, DC, November 20, 2024) – The Biden administration’s decision to transfer internationally banned antipersonnel landmines to Ukraine risks civilian lives and rejects the most successful humanitarian disarmament treaty of the past 25 years, Human Rights Watch said today.
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https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/11/20/proposed-us-landmine-transfers-gravely-threaten-civilians
Chris,
Here is the real kicker of which you mention, out going president, who could of ended the war just after it began, is he or they, they being his handler’s, really that 1) evil, 2) crazy, 3) spiteful to up the risk of WWIII/nuclear war just because Trump won? To try to sabotage his second term before he even gets into office? Commit him to a war he did not start, does not want and seems to be the only guy talking peace?
People in the EU are crapping their pants as their governments send out “How to prepare for WWIII,” or “How to prepare for nuclear war,” pamphlets and there are kunckleheads here arguing the legality of using APMs? In just a matter of days, Biden has escalated the war closer and closer to WWIII and some chowder head wants to argue “You have to threaten WWIII to respond to it.” like that makes what Biden has done any better. Biden escalated by authorizing long range missiles into Russian territory, Putin responds by lowering nuclear retaliation threshold and that is supposed to make us feel better? Then lets toss in some APMs, eh? No big deal right?
For the sake of the world, the sake of younger generations, may cooler heads prevail.
Couldn’t have stated it better myself.
and this is WAY MORE SERIOUS than anything Trump did or didn’t do on Jan 6th.
This is the worst thing I’ve ever seen an outgoing President do, especially one on the losing side.
It also may be the last thing I ever get to see an outgoing President do too.
Putin set the international stage and warned us, if we do this he reserves the right to launch strikes.
I don’t think he will, I pray he won’t, but he could light it all up, …. tonight.
While these stupid stupid trolls, run their mouths.
Chris,
We are looking at the overt response by Putin, retaliatory strikes to Biden’s escalation.
What we are not considering is possible cyber attacks on our infrastructure. Could be by the Russians, could be by the Chinese at the behest of Russia, could be Iran or NK totally on their own but blame Russia. How long would it take us to know, for certain, who the guilty party was? Would we ever know? Or would it just be a knee jerk “Russia! Russia! Russia!” Hillary Clinton reaction without evidence? Anyone who argued for hard evidence would be accused of being a Russia stooge, as we have seen here on the good professor’s blog. Of being unpatriotic. Good way to force a incoming president into a war he nor the majority of Americans want.
UF – lets presume that Putin responds in some way short of Nukes.
What is the US going to do ?
We can not do nothing – that will make the US look impotent and undermine national security.
But any action we take risks involving US personel,
or provoking a nuclear response or atleast an escalation by Putin.
We have already sanctioned and otherwise done everything we can short of getting directly involved.
So what is the next step ?
The good news is Trump will be president soon and end this nonsense.
It is also possible that Putin MIGHT not respond until Trump takes office – Everyone but Biden and neocons wants a peace deal.
But lets assume that Putin can not just wait, that he must respond by escalting.
What is he going to do ?
and What are we going to do in response ?
WE do not have many options left short of direct involvement.
Doubtful it would start with nukes. It would likely be proportional. So Putin waits till one of the missiles misses and hits the wrong target. Winds up a one or more of his conventional Cruise missiles and takes out the embassy, and maybe the Brit embassy too just for good measure. Or, if as I suspect the ATACM’s are placed far in the rear and likely near the Polish border… well then all manner of stuff could go wrong if he’d decide to go after them (and our experts).
But perhaps he is also, as once in a blue moon he turns out to be, the adult in the room and holds off until he can speak to someone “finally” in charge over here.
“It is also possible that Putin MIGHT not respond until Trump takes office – Everyone but Biden and neocons wants a peace deal.”
I was thinking the same. Nearly everyone in the West seems to think that Putin is the only voice that matters, or the loosest of cannons, among the Russian oligarchs, and that he wants to maximize the damage inflicted on Russia’s opponents, at any cost. But according to Gilbert Doctorow, who appears to have a great deal of insider knowledge of the Russian power structure, and who is a voice I have come to trust on Russian affairs ever the years, Putin has actually, at no small risk to his rule, been a moderating voice in this conflict, advising restraint to other Russian power brokers, some of whom wanted him to employ tactical nukes two years ago, and some of whom would welcome an opportunity to depose him. He might be counseling those other, more aggressive, leaders at this moment, advising them that Trump is going to provide stability to the situation, and equity for Russian interests in negotiating the war’s end, after his inauguration. Which leads me to wonder just what countermeasures Putin might have been forced to employ if Harris had won, and either Biden or Harris had put him in this position at this time. That might have been ugly.
It’s like when Clinton ordered a missile strike after his DNA matched the stain on the blue dress, following the plotline of the movie Wag the Dog. This time Hunter is managing multi-million-dollar transfers into his web of offshore LLCs with his laptop right before the big guy pardons him.
“1) evil, 2) crazy, 3) spiteful to up the risk of WWIII/nuclear war just because Trump won?”
I’ve thought about whether the long range missile authorization, and now the AP mines, might be a strategic attempt by the Dim establishment to sabotage Trump, but there is also possibly a simpler explanation – ego. If Trump takes office and immediately negotiates an end to the war, even a d1psh1t like Biden understands how terrible that makes his tenure look. Maybe he is doing this just to complicate things for Trump, and make it take an extra year or two to end the war, so it wouldn’t (in Biden’s feeble mind) look like he had fvcked it up quite as badly. Now, that has a lot of similarities to the sabotage theory, but differs in motivation, at the least. Alternatively, he might merely be servicing some defense contractor investors who are making out on supplying Ukraine. I don’t have any direct evidence for either of those propositions, but I think that both pass the Occam’s Razor criterion in comparison to the sabotage theory.
Considering the degree of his cognitive decline, does Biden even have any understanding of, and any insight into, the implications of what he is signing off on? If as suspected he does not, his vice-President, his cabinet, his staff (especially his staff attorneys), his Democrat Party leaders, his physicians and especially his family are negligent in not having him resign. They also should be, and hopefully also will be, seen as responsible for the adverse events resulting from the actions of an obviously cognitively impaired president who has been allowed to stay in office.
“does Biden even have any understanding of, and any insight into, the implications of what he is signing off on?”
Hmmm. That suggests what might be a prudent response from Republicans, but I seriously doubt that a lightweight like Mike Johnson has the spine for it. 25th Amendment, Section 4, stipulates that the VIce President takes the lead in declaring the President incapacitated, but it also seems to say that Congress can pass a law to modify how the process progresses from there. There seems to to be a little wiggle room in there, enough that possibly Johnson could introduce a resolution declaring that in the opinion of Congress, Biden is unable to discharge his powers and duties, and should be removed, or possible that Biden is apparently incompetent, and call on Harris to initiate removal. Even though those motions would not succeed in the current Congress, they could send a clear message internationally, and might provide Putin with more clout in trying to hold off on drastic action until Trump is inaugurated.
“25th Amendment: Section 4
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers
of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by
law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the
Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the
President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the
Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the
office as Acting President.”
To the lying trolls (likely one guy hiding behind multiple fake names) arguing the type of mines being deployed are not banned, this from CIVIC 4 hours ago.
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Geneva/Kyiv, November 20, 2024 –Center for Civilians in Conflict (CIVIC) denounces the reported planned transfer of banned antipersonnel landmines from the United States to Ukraine. In response to the announced transfer, CIVIC’s Executive Director Hichem Khadhraoui said:
“We urge the Biden administration to immediately reverse its decision to transfer these weapons to Ukraine, which as a party to the Mine Ban Treaty is prohibited from using antipersonnel landmines under any circumstances.
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https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/civic-opposes-us-transfer-antipersonnel-landmines-ukraine
Of course their word games they want to play are moot, that they’re banned isn’t the point. It only makes what Bidens doing worse.
BUT THE POINT, ….is Biden is intentionally implementing a SCORCHED EARTH POLICY ON HIS WAY OUT THE DAM DOOR!
That’s the point, you pinheads… especially you, “old airborne dog”, … two of which we know you’re not.
THATS the point.
Biden is REVERSING his policies that he put in place that HE SAID WERE TO AVOID ESCALATION, …. and PUBLICLY AND OPENLY REVERSING THEM TO ESCALATE THE CONFRONTATION.
Which is evil. As evil and criminal and insane as it gets.
As for my being “afraid” or “scared” of this confrontation, I’m 64 years old, I ain’t got that much longer anyway. Fear of my own life has little to do with it. I face death and dismemberment every time I head to work. In fact I was seriously injured earlier this year, back in March when I was struck by a tree. And I opened my leg up several years ago in an accident with a 24 inch bar on a 60cc saw, …so yea I face death and crap routinely.
So some little troll sitting in his moms basement ALL DAY IN HERE ….(which the comments prove) calling me “scared” means little. I’m not afraid necessarily for my own life, although sure I’d like to live and not have my skin peel off from radiation but I’m more concerned with my nieces and nephews and great nieces and nephews, and my family and that there’s you know…. a sky …..water…….oxygen……etc for them when I’m gone.
But slimey cowardly trolls like “Old Airborne dog” sitting in some cubical or their moms basement running their mouths while shilling for this insanity by Biden, shows you what scum they really are.
Yeah well, I couldn’t figure out from what OAD said just WTH he was talking about. I don’t see any media articles stating they are only Claymore directional mines that we are sending to Zelenskyy, every article I read says plainly, anti-personnel mines, period. Although Austin, the master of the withdrawel, states they are battery operated (Mahaha, what is it with these people and batteries?), and so when the energizer bunny dies out in two weeks, their just wasted tax dollars and won’t explode. So says Lloyd Austin.
The so-called, media also says our “military Attack’ems experts”, responsible for the ATACM’s are not on the front lines. So gee, that makes it all okay then. The ATACM’s are long range. I doubt even Zelenskyy is comical enough to set them down on the front lines. They could be sitting on the Polish border. Who knows, but knowing the media and the government, that bland statement seems to ring hollow.
Otherwise, our past and present Presidents have both agreed “acceded” to the treaty, and it’s terms. Therefore establishing that at best our Presidents can’t be trusted in the world circuit, and at worst, allowing a hostile Nation State to gain the moral upper hand in the argument, for whatever that might result in.
“Yeah well, I couldn’t figure out from what OAD said just WTH he was talking about. I don’t see any media articles stating they are only Claymore directional mines that we are sending to Zelenskyy, every article I read says plainly, anti-personnel mines, period. Although Austin, the master of the withdrawel, states they are battery operated (Mahaha, what is it with these people and batteries?)”
I’m trying to figure out how we’ve had allegedly banned mines in our arsenal for over 20 years of the specific kinds prohibited – and until now Human Rights Watch, CIVIC, etc has said nothing about us using them? Is that weird or what? We’ve gotten away with that for two decades, and not one person in government or whistleblower has ratted us out!
At least Julian Assange or Snowden should have ratted us out. Or maybe Colonel Vindman.
Note to trolls: if you want anyone to actually read what you write, avoid the word “Turls.” That word is a signal that you are not a serious person but rather a juvenile throwing a temper tantrum. I and many other readers, when we see that word, we skip everything that follows.
OTOH, if you just want to blow off steam and not have anyone read what you write, be my guest and use the word Turls.
Trump was rightfully convicted of 34 felonies. The jury and the prosecutors put their time in. Trump should be sentenced immediately.
Dancing around a DOJ policy established around Nixon about not prosecuting sitting president’s is just a policy, not a law. The SCOTUS reversed a civil right in the Dobbs case. Reversing a ‘policy’ should be even easier.
Sentence Trump now and try him on the rest of what he’s been indicted on. To not do it is a travesty and complete failure of the rule of law.
Abortion is not a right of privacy provided by the 14th Amendment and may be legislated either way at the federal or state level.
Roe v. Wade was fraudulently and deliberately decided by the corrupt Supreme Court of 1973 in support of abortion, which is homicide.
I heard flawed personal opinions about how abortion wasn’t an actual right for 50 years…, until the actual right conveyed by Roe was taken away. The fact you didn’t like that right is another matter.
Rights are not conveyed by judicial fiat numbskull.
ATS Abortion is NOT a right.
Most rights come from nature.
Rights specific to our relationship to government process – the right to a jury trial – civil rights, are created by the constitution.
Abortion is neither a natural right or a civil right.
There is a natural right to privacy – but and abortion is not a privacy issue any more than murder would be.
There is a natural right to control of your own body – that would give you the right to remove a fetus from your body, even if that may result in its death.
But it is not a right to kill the fetus.
Further despite the fact that control of your own body is an actual natural right,
It was rejected by progressive courts in Buck V. Bell which continues to be good law.
If rights are so inconsequential that they can be created at whim by courts – and in Roe, then they are so inconsequential they can be destroyed by courts.
Marxist thoughts and ideas are not based in or mirror reality.
The Supreme Court must take Trump’s case immediately, wherein it will be thrown out lock, stock, and barrel.
“Trump was rightfully convicted of 34 felonies.”
“Rightly convicted” in the eyes of Lavarentiy Beria style Democrat police state fascists. The same commie culls that don’t mind in the slightest that Bragg didn’t prosecute a single one of the Democrats who were actually convicted and fined by the FEC of election campaign crimes: Clinton, Zuckerburg, et al. Just fines from the feds – no inventive Bragg prosecutions.
Commies… wrong blog to try peddling your hypocritical two standards of justice. Try Rachael Maddow’s blog.
Agreed, but there is a point there of agreement. The trial needs to be concluded so that Trump can appeal, and we all know including Bragg, and Chutzpah or whatever, that the case will be tossed on appeal. Bragg is just collecting campaign donations, while the judge is trying to save face.
Jury, and prosecutors, did their work. It appears you were licking trump’s ass while they did it.
Trump ass licker ^^^^
Sir or Madam: I would challenge you to find in the entire free text of the Constitution, to find a single time the word “abortion”, or “reproductive rights”, “health care”, etc. are written anywhere in the document (before you go looking, I’ll save you some time – they’re not there, shocking as it may be to you). It is decidely *not* a civil right, not was it ever one – it was invented out of thin air by an activist federal judiciary. If the citizenry deigns it be a civil right than the Constitution should be amended accordingly, and there is a process to do so. Taking the easy way via 5 justices by fiat does not cement anything, because court rulings can always be overturned, as you have seen.
Doesn’t say a lot of things that are considered rights now. Didn’t recognize slaves as fully human, or give them, or women, the right to vote. Perhaps you need to take lessons on the ammendment process before popping off and exposing your foolishness.
LOL you fvcking dumbass, you just made their point. Takes an Amendment.
You know what you also will not find in the Constitution: ““deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition.”
ALITO IN DOBBS: “The Court’s decisions have held that the Due Process Clause protects two categories of substantive rights—those rights guaranteed by the first eight Amendments to the Constitution and those rights deemed fundamental that are not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. In deciding whether a right falls into either of these categories, the question is whether the right is “deeply rooted in [our] history and tradition” and whether it is essential to this Nation’s “scheme of ordered liberty.”
Picking and choosing which substantive due process rights based on a highly subjected and completely judicially-invented test of historical “deep-rootedness” is no different from inventing unenumerated substantive due process rights.
EVERY justice (INCLUDING THOMAS) believes that there are unenumerated rights that are not found in the text of the Constitution. He just replaces the Due Process Clause with the Privileges or Immunity Clause. Take for example, his concurrence in McDonald, where he argues that for incorporation of the 2nd Amendment to state law through the Privileges or Immunity Clause:
“In my view, the record makes plain that the Framers of the Privileges or Immunities Clause and the ratifying-era public understood—just as the Framers of the Second Amendment did—that the right to keep and bear arms was essential to the preservation of liberty. The record makes equally plain that they deemed this right necessary to include in the minimum baseline of federal rights that the Privileges or Immunities Clause established in the wake of the War over slavery.”
This is an unenumerated right – as applied to state law – and therefore is no different than finding a right to privacy in the emanations and penumbras of the Constitution.
Civil rights are right with respect to the interactions of people and government – such as the right to a trial by jury, or the right to the same justice whether you are black or white.
How do you know she’s pregnant?
Poor anon.
Clearly you didn’t follow the case or the list of errors that many expert lawyers have already pointed out.
And this is before the immunity decision by SCOTUS.
The charges were bogus from the start.
Best for Trump to be sentenced or the case dismissed outright.
Actually getting sentenced would be better because of the recourse.
Having it appealed and then reversed also opens the door for Merchan and Bragg to face the music.
-G
Followed the case. Followed the conviction. And, at the moment, I’m following your delusion.
No, you know the verdict of the jury. There’s been no conviction.
Kangaroo!
Trump was correctly aquitted by a Jury of 150M people the majority of whom told Bragg Merchan and the state of NY to pound sand and quit engaging in election interferance.
One of the reasons that Gaetz needs to be confiirmed is that all of this needs investigated.
BTW No Trump was NOT rightfully convicted of 34 Felonies.
Lets START with the misdemeanor of fraudulent business documents.
The Critical operative word is FRAUD. It is outside of the power of the government to criminalize merely false bussiness documents – even TRULY false business documents – in this case the allegation is that calling a payment to a lawyer a legal expense is false. That is wither objectively false or at the very best subjective – and you can not make a crime out of subjective determinations. The rule of law requires that to the best of our ability to do so the same act is adjudicated the same way regardless of the administration, or the alleged criminal. or even the courtroom. Intentional error in that is unconstitutional. significant allegedly unintentional error is a violation of civil rights.
I would note that Clinton did almost exactly the same thing – EXCEPT that she paid for the steele dossiuer from CAMPAIGN funds, While Trump paid for Cohen out of personal funds.
Clinton was fined by the FEC – not a signicficant fine. She was not charged or prosecuted by SDNY or Bragg for inarguably falsified business records.
Why ? Because False business records are not and can not be a crime.
A Crime requires either ACTUAL harm or the intent to cause harm and the high probability of harm.
The Government can not pass a law criminalizing chewing bubble gum.
It can not even pass a law criminalizing lying.
This is why the statute in quesiton is a FRAUD statute, and FRAUD requires either actual harm or the intent to do actual harm, and the high probability of doing so.
Further Both Black’s and SCOTUS limit Fraud to Harm to Property. I.E TANGIBLE harm, Not emptional distress, not potentially altering the outcome of an election of the direction of the wind. There must be a direct connection between the alleged lie, and Real Tangible Harm – a demonstrable loss of money, or damage to property.
If Trump had failed to properly pay taxes – that would be real harm – but he did not and that is not alleged. Interestingly – if he had paid this out of campaign funds – it would have violated federal law – just as Hillaries payments for the Steele Dossier, But it STILL would not be fraud. It would merely be paying for something a campaign can not pay for as a campaign expense. But if it was paid for out of the campaign there would be no taxes.
So the first HUGE problem you have is there is no Fraud. Even the misdemeanor charge does not hold up.
Therefore EVERYTHING goes away.
I would further note the Fraud requirement is a MATTER OF LAW – it is NOT a subjective determination of the jury.
This case NEVER should have resulted in an indictment much less got into a court room.
It is NOT Trump that is the Felon – it is Bragg, Coangelo, and Merchan – violation of civil rights under color of law.
And I would bet that a Jury from upstate NY would have no problems convicting.
I would further note that is a FAR more serious crime.
Turley beats arround the bush saying repeatedly this case has numerous reversible errors.
But he fails to state clearly – that while many of those are failures by Merchan to follow the rules governing how a trial is conducted.
SOME of those errors are errors of law – allowing a criminal charge to go forward when the prosecutor has not alleged the rquired elements of the crime.
Which is legal speak for prosecuting acts that are NOT a crime by asking a jury to convict someone who is BY LAW innocent, to convict.
There is no fraud here – that required Merchan to dismiss at the start and Bragg to end the investigation before even a grand jury
At trial the jury’s verdict in the Trump case was Trump is guilty of 34 felonies. Trump awaits sentencing and final conviction.
He may appeal the verdict before conviction.
So what does Putin have on us here?
The United States is potentially directly involved in military operations now with U.S. military personnel in Ukraine. This gives some wiggle room for Putin to legally claim in the U.N., that the U.S. is not only supplying the Attack’ems (ATACMS), but also involved in the firing and potential targeting of the missiles directly against Russia.
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“The team will be weapons experts with the aim of keeping tabs on the U.S.-supplied arms in an operation that does not involve American soldiers fighting alongside Ukrainian forces. The inspectors will not be near the frontline, the Pentagon said.”
Uh-huh…
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-pentagon-weapons-biden-1756387
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And as is being pointed out elsewhere in here, the U.S. is now in violation of the Ottawa Convention, both in supplying the APL’s to Ukraine, and in having a stockpile of them in the first place, since they were required to be destroyed in 10 years following the ratification of the Ottawa Convention, as well as giving Ukraine the permission to use said illegal weapons from an illegal stockpile, against International Convention (nice), and it displays a virtual double-talk fabrication of lies in that during 2022, Biden reversed the policy of his predecessor, Trump, and declared the U.S. would continue disarmament, saying that the United States will not produce or acquire anti-personnel mines, will not support any other country in its use of these mines, and commits to destroying all existing anti-personnel mines in its possession (excluding those on the Korean Peninsula).
Exactly what the nincompoops have given to Putin now to claim in front of the U.N., ICC, and anyone else, perhaps China, North Korea, and Iran, that the U.S. is the aggressor firing Attack’ems into Russia, supplying illegal weaponry banned in the Ottawa Convention, and wait for it, wait… Oh gee one missed, and hit a hospital, or a school full of kids, or fill in the blank.
The Ottawa Convention treaty became binding international law on 1 March 1999.
* Biden is showing real depraved indifference to human life.
Look, I*’m with you on the insanity being carried out in our names right now by an insane outgoing President, but no the US is “not” a signer of the Ottawa accord. Doing so would require our removal of antipersonnel mines along the NK\SK DMZ.
But you’re right in principal, AND the Ukraine IS a signer of the treaty so its in direct violation for them to use them and if they’re bound by it then it should be illegal for us to give them to them anyway, even though we’re not signers.
Biden’s losing it with his “Nero decrees” the past several days, but it seems like no one in charge is paying attention.
Chris Webber keeps continuing… But you’re right in principal, AND the Ukraine IS a signer of the treaty so its in direct violation for them to use them,/i>
You and the rest are all very, VERY wrong. First in fact and in second in attempting principled discussion.
Read the damned treaty at least Chris. You can still be filled with rage and terror without posting in ignorance.
At the very least, read Article 2, Sections 1 and 2 of that Convention you are repeatedly referring to today. You can still be filled with terror that you’re about to die in WW3.
Chris, I gave you a link to the treaty for reading. As to the U.S. signatory or not, it is no and yes. The U.S., is not an original signatory, however Obama acceded to it in 2014 all but agreeing to it with the exception of the exclusion of the Korean Peninsula along the DMZ. And as of the post 2014 agreement by Obama, the situation on the Korean Peninsula has also changed.
“The United States—along with the likes of Iran, China, Russia, Pakistan, and Syria—is not a party to the Ottawa Treaty. Although America supported the development process of the treaty, it did not sign it in 1997. The Clinton administration declined to accede to the Treaty under pressure from the Pentagon, which was concerned with the strategic importance of landmines along the Demilitarized Zone (or DMZ) between North and South Korea. The United States, in conjunction with South Korea, has deployed thousands of landmines across the DMZ to serve as a deterrent against North Korean invasion. Robert Beecroft, a State Department official under President Clinton, said that the United States would have signed the treaty if not for the issue of Korea. Little movement was made on the issue until 2014, when the Obama administration announced that it would accede to the Ottawa Treaty in every way except on the Korean peninsula. President Obama announced at the time that “we will begin destroying our stockpiles not required for the defense of South Korea. And we’re going to continue to work to find ways that would allow us to ultimately comply fully and accede to the Ottawa Convention.” The United States pledged to destroy its stockpile of nearly 10 million landmines, not produce anymore, and totally restrict their use in warfare. Advocates of the land mine ban applauded this move, but questioned the logic of requiring an exception for Korea. Steven Goose, arms director at the Human Rights Watch, said that “a geographic exception to the ban is no more acceptable today than when the treaty was negotiated.”
“A new opportunity presented by recent diplomatic efforts in Korea could be the beginning of the United States’ ascension in full to the Ottawa Treaty. The recent thawing of diplomatic tension on the Korean peninsula included a 2018 summit between South Korean President Moon Jae-In and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un; both South and North Korea agreed to begin dismantling landmines in the DMZ. Engineers began removing landmines from the region within days of the summit, with the stated goal of total removal. If this policy is successful between North and South Korea, and landmines are eliminated from the DMZ, then the United States would have no reason not to fully sign on to the Ottawa Treaty.”
https://www.ecoi.net/de/dokument/2085513.html
And then finally in 2022;
Biden stated that he was ending Trumps policy of continued production, and further that Biden promised “the world”, that we would cease production of said APL’s, and that we would “finally” comply with the treaty’s requirement to destroy our stockpile and went further to promise that we would not supply them to another country.
And as is being pointed out elsewhere in here, the U.S. is now in violation of the Ottawa Convention
You might be one of the nincompoops you spoke of if you’re one of the ones claiming these mines violate that Convention.
At least one of you geniuses attempting to cosplay as experts on that Convention should at the very least go there to read that Convention first.
Unless the news media is wrong, these are Claymore mines. Which we’ve been using since that convention was signed in 1999.
Tell everybody why those Claymore mines are prohibited AFTER you finally read that Convention (it only takes a few minutes to read).
Then tell everybody why it took you 20+ years to get outraged that the US has been in violation of that Convention for 20+ years as we’ve continued to manufacture and deploy those Claymore mines.
You can be afraid of arming Ukraine, outraged about supporting Ukraine without posting lies (or more charitably ignorance) about those mines.
<<Chris, you were correct as the U.S. did not officially sign the treaty in 1997. However, we did accede to it in 2014, which Biden backed up in 2022.
<<Old Airborne, Climb down out of the pulpit a minute there feller. First, it didn't take me 20 years to be outraged about the landmine ban. I didn't like it in the first place and still don't. But what I am outraged about is our current President, so-called, has just shipped off an illegal supply of them illegally to Ukraine. Illegal being a relative term of course. But certainly it is being done despite the assurances of at least two American Presidents, one of which officially acceded to the treaty in 2014. Obama, and then Biden in 2022, which provides Putin a perfect platform to accuse us of direct military involvement and illegally (there's that word again, in difference to our agreement made by Obama and Biden then), supplying Ukraine with banned weaponry.
Secondly, I don't lie. However, perhaps some of us are not perfect as you appear to think you are, so once in a while like with Chris, I make an error in explanation. Sue me in twenty years claiming you don't remember when or where I said something or other. Bragg might even indict me in the New York District Court.
So where in the treaty does it specify Claymore mines my good Sir? Here is Section 2.1, concerning the definition of; "What is an anti-personnel landmine?" I see nothing specific to Claymore directional mines, rather there is significant differences explained between anti-personnel landmines, and anti-vehicle landmines. Otherwise, this makes it clear they are speaking specifically about anti-personnel landmines.
https://www.icrc.org/sites/default/files/external/doc/en/assets/files/other/icrc_002_0702_ottawa_explained.pdf
"2.1 What is an anti-personnel mine?"
"The definition of an anti-personnel mine laid down in
the Ottawa treaty (see Art. 2, paras 1 and 2) covers all
‘‘person’’-activated mines irrespective of whether they
are placed in the ground in marked minefields or
remotely delivered over large areas. It also includes
so-called ‘‘smart’’ anti-personnel mines—mines which
have the capacity to self-destruct or self-deactivate
(i.e. mines that are programmed to automatically
explode or become inert after a set period of time).
However, owing to recent developments in landmine
technology, the traditional distinction between anti-
personnel mines and anti-vehicle mines is becoming
blurred. Several types of mines have been developed
which can be considered to have a ‘‘dual purpose’’."
"That is, they are designed to be detonated by both
people and vehicles. The treaty prohibits any dual-
purpose mine or any anti-vehicle mine if one of its
functions is to be detonated by a person. The sole
exception to this is an anti-vehicle mine equipped
with an anti-handling device. An anti-handling device
is a mechanism attached to the mine which causes the
mine to explode when a person attempts to remove,
disturb or tamper with it. 4 These mechanisms are
increasingly being fitted to anti-vehicle mines to
prevent their removal or clearance and are a
particular danger to soldiers and deminers."
"The definition of an anti-personnel mine contained in
the Ottawa treaty is significantly stronger than the
formulation found in amended Protocol II to the
CCW. The Protocol defines an anti-personnel mine as
‘‘a mine primarily designed to be exploded by the
presence, proximity or contact of a person and that
will incapacitate, injure or kill one or more persons’’
(emphasis added). The use here of the word
‘‘primarily’’ is one of the Protocol’s significant weak-
nesses. It creates a major ambiguity in the definition,
which could thus be interpreted as excluding ‘‘dual-
purpose’’ munitions even if one of the purposes is to
serve as an anti-personnel mine. The absence of the
word ‘‘primarily’’ in the Ottawa treaty definition
removes this undesirable ambiguity. The new defini-
tion is indeed an important accomplishment of the
Ottawa process: a clear definition of the weapon
being prohibited is the foundation of a comprehen-
sive ban treaty."
"Although not within the ambit of the Ottawa treaty, all
anti-vehicle mines capable of detonation only by
vehicles or tanks are nonetheless covered by the rules
established by customary law and Protocol II to the
1980 CCW. Governments must ensure that such
mines, especially when remotely delivered and
equipped with anti-handling devices, are used
responsibly in accordance with international humani-
tarian law and established military doctrine."
So where in the treaty does it specify Claymore mines my good Sir? Here is Section 2.1, concerning the definition of; “What is an anti-personnel landmine?” I see nothing specific to Claymore directional mines, rather there is significant differences explained between anti-personnel landmines, and anti-vehicle landmines. Otherwise, this makes it clear they are speaking specifically about anti-personnel landmines.
Anonymous, in your pulpit: you did a bunch of cut and paste. Where did you find the part that says mines that are detonated at the command of one of our troops controlling it i.e. a Claymore, are banned in the wording of that treaty?
Let’s make it easier for you: where does it say that ALL landmines are banned? Rather than just the ones fired by contact with a person/vehicle or a person/vehicle being in the immediate proximity of the mine? Are command detonated mines also banned? If they are, we sure still have lots of them out there two decades after we aren’t supposed to.
There you go, my good Sir. Now go give those sections you copied and pasted a read this time.
“what the nincompoops have given to Putin now to claim in front of the U.N., ICC, and anyone else, perhaps China, North Korea, and Iran, that the U.S. is the aggressor firing Attack’ems into Russia, supplying illegal weaponry banned in the Ottawa Convention,”
Quite true, but Putin is not waiting for acknowledgement from international tribunals, or statements of support from his allies, to take an action that sends a very clear message reinforcing his statements on European and US complicity in these recent developments:
Russia Fires ICBM Into Ukraine For First Time, Kiev Confirms
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-hits-ukraine-icbm-first-time
“A senior Ukrainian military official told the Financial Times that Russia launched an ICBM called “RS-26 Rubezh” that has a range of 3,700 miles and can strike any European capital.”
My post on X:John Howard Wilhelm, Ph.D., Economics Univ. of MI
@JohnHowardWilh1
Since Title 18 of the US Code prohibits and punishes “deprivation under the
color of law” as appropriate against judges, district attorneys & others, Bragg
& the NY judges in Trump’s 2 cases ought to be charged by the DOJ.
@TuckerCarlson @jimmy_dore @ggreenwald @JonathanTurley
@John…
Uhm not quite.
There’s election interference along w malicious prosecution against Bragg.
Election interference along w a violation of judicial canons by Merchan.
However they do have some qualified immunity that would protect them.
Not as straight forward as you think outside of the election interference and even that would be a hard thing to prove. (But it is provable.)
-G
Turls has it exactly backwards when he says: “The President would be seen by many as governing on a type of conditional status from one of the most politically compromised prosecutors in the country.” Uh, no. Trump is the most politically -compromised candidate for the office of President in our history, in our country, and maybe in the world–and, not just because of the NY convictions–there’s the stealing of classified documents, stealing from his charitable foundation and starting the insurrection. It is a FACT that Trump committed the crimes for which he was convicted, and these crimes were proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Since those are state crimes, Trump cannot self-pardon, so Turls, jonesing for some kind of federal judgeship or Fox News show, attacks the prosecutor. The sad truth that Turls knows is that he really can’t attack the actual facts–Trump did what he was charged with doing. Turls tries to claim there’s all kinds of reversible error, but he doesn’t say what it is. He accuses the prosecutor and judge of engaging in “lawfare”, a MAGA media coined term–like “Russia, Russia, Russia”, implying lack of validity–but, Trump did what he was accused of doing.
Another sad truth is that Turls really can’t come up with any kind of cogent argument as to why Trump should get a free pass. Turls falsely claims: “The suggestion is appalling to most of the people in the country, including the majority of voters who voted for Trump.” Uh, no, Turls–Trump got less than 50% of the popular vote, so the majority of people who voted did NOT vote for Trump. And, even if he had done better than this, that would not equate to the majority of Americans believing Trump should get a free pass. From the AP, June 12, 2024: “NEW YORK (AP) — About half of U.S. adults approve of Donald Trump’s recent felony conviction, according to a poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.” The rest of us couldn’t commit crimes like Trump and expect to get away with it and most of the rest of us don’t think Trump should either. Our founders would be appalled at a Donald J. Trump.
I note that Turls still hasn’t commented on this blog about Trump trying to circumvent the “advise and consent” provision of the Constitution by demanding that Republicans immediately go into a more than 10-day recess so he can shove in the historically unqualified, compromised and bad choices nominated so far for cabinet positions.
Did not read. More MSM lies.
@Upstate
Pretty sure ‘Gigi’ liked their own post themselves. Seriously, whatever. 🙄
James: No, I did.
@David
Yes, you are stupid. How many dang screen names does this person have, and who are they that they are so privileged to just poop on this site non-stop everyday? We smell what you are shoveling, and we sure don’t like it. I find myself actually longing for the days when ‘Natacha’ was the sole pooper. You are a sad sack, ‘ David’.
James, I assure you that I am not “Gigi” nor “Natacha” nor “George” nor”Dennis”. By linguistic analysis one can deduce than one of the above are the same person. In addition, I can assure you that I am not stupid.
David B. Benson posted this:
In addition, I can assure you that I am not stupid.
The self-diagnosis you’ve done of yourself is belied by what you post here. We will decide your mental competence for ourselves.
You are either abjectly stupid, mentally handicapped to the point you appear to be one of Jerry’s Kids that just stepped off the short bus.
Or just another coastal commie liar.
Wrong blog comments to try your shtick, Davie.
Here are a few little things to ponder: MAGA media endlessly attacks mainstream media as biased and untrustworthy, but mainstream media does not return the insults. I have yet to hear David Muir or Lester Holt attack Sean Hannity or other “hosts” on MAGA media. You MAGAs endlessly attack those of us who write things about Trump that you don’t like–you call us names, accuse us of being “stupid”, a “liar”, “communists”, mentally retarded and other insults; in my case, I have been routinely referred to in pejorative terms for female genitalia, accused of being fat, uneducated, lying about my background. But, we don’t call you MAGAs names. I have endeavored to rely on facts and cite my sources, but the name-calling continues because of devotion to Trump–something I have referred to as discipleship because the devotion is not based on Trump’s character, behavior and admiration for dictators, all of which is indefensible and un-American. It’s another fact that Trump and MAGA are deliberately trying to divide Americans against each other with their lies, rhetoric and insults–and–why? It’s to get power–power to do away with regulations that protect us all that wealthy corporations don’t like, tax breaks for the wealthy, rewards for donors, etc.. Just look at the name-calling and insults against Kamala Harris, who was, and still is, the sitting Vice President whom most Americans chose over Trump back in 2020. It’s one thing to have a difference of opinion regarding policy and vision for the future, but calling our Vice President “stupid” and the other insults, including the racist tropes, is un-American. It’s another fact that the more we fight among ourselves, the weaker we are–and that is not only wrong, but it makes us vulnerable. It’s also a fact that Russians and other bad actors are capitalizing on these divisions, helping to spread disinformation, misinformation and lies. That does not bode well for our future.
David is not “stupid”. He is an alzheimers patient and resident at a nursing home in Washington State.
He is prone to short outbursts of nonsensical comments, because of his advanced dementia.
He does still have some moments of lucidity throughout the day, but they are becoming increasingly rare.
Airblown Puppy — It is a 7 hour drive from here to the coast, nonstop which is most definitely *not* recommended.
And iuf you want a lecture on cosmology I might be able to provide one at your level of comprehension.
Its 230 miles from spokane to seattle by air, ya spastic. You’re quite coastal.
@David
Oh, you are, you are. Nobody cares. 🤷🏻♂️
Oops. Should read “none of the above”
As for ‘stupid’, I might be accused of that if I bothered to argue the matter with the hoi paloi here.
By the way, a reminder that I ignore the Nony Mice.
You might not reply, but you dont ignore. You’ve read every one of my assessments of your mental state and recommendations for your meds.
Oh dear: should read “none of the above”
Uh, oh! There’s more on James.
Idiot!
You are stupid
PMS
“Turls has it exactly backwards…”
Gigi, the birthing person allegedly female doppleganger of George holds another Reveal Party. She comes here every time to first insult our gracious host Professor Turley – and then proclaim that she and Curious George are always right and Professor Turley is always wrong.
Well! That’s certainly going to convince Professor Turley’s other guests here to disbelieve our eyes and instead see the world through their commie fascist lying eyes.
Gigi, like George, does this because the only other way she/he/they/Zee can get attention is to look at itself in the mirror.
Gigi, you do a great job every time you arrive here on your Bolshevik Bytch broom to retain your title of Gigi, Democrat Fire Ho Of Lies.
* She’s a masochist and is begging more! More! Lil bow ow.
Beware, “Lil Screamin’ Bow Wow” is a fierce warfighter who contended valiantly to steal the valor of the Airborne.
“Beware, “Lil Screamin’ Bow Wow” is a fierce warfighter who contended valiantly to steal the valor of the Airborne.”
Odd that you repeat that insinuation every single day without picking that stolen valor you see in the posts to reference in support ofyour insinuations, pedophile Gravy Seal Six Gun Bunny Sniper.
The fact you were allowed to resign as they did Hunter Biden because the military didn’t want to embarrass the itself by prosecuting you for molesting the base brats doesn’t mean children are no longer at risk from you now that you’re back to being Airsoft Gravy Team Six Seal Sniper.
“Airblown Puppy’s” Bark Is Worse Than His Bitey.
Any hard fought Airsoft battles in your mommy’s back yard, soft as a kitten Airsoft Gravy Seal Six Gun Bunny? Not worried your probation officer will find out you’re using your mom’s computer to post on the internet.
Show us your Fruit Salad, Bow Wow!
Well its become quite apparent that David Benson is the “Screamin’ bow wow” person. Makes sense.
Wanna deny that one too, Davey??
That was wonderful. What about the “Fruit Salad,” or does it not exist?
Answer The Question!
Military bona fides PLLLEASUH!!!
“Military bona fides PLLLEASUH!!!”
Does your probation officer know you’re violating your conditions by using your mom’s computer to get on the Internet?
Biden is violating international treaty and authorizing illegal land mines against Russian personnel in an attempt to escalate his proxy war with Russia into a global nuclear conflict, and you’re still blubbering about Trump.
When are you going to pull your head, from your a$$, and speak truth?
Never?
Chris,
It is a mental illness with them. They give the Biden Crime Family a pass, while ranting and raving about Trump all the time. Now that Biden has escalated the proxy war, bringing us that much closer to WWIII/nuclear war, all they can do is cry, bbbuuttttt TRUMP!
Sad. Very sad.
Dummy…you have to threaten WWIII in order to prevent it. Posing no threat?….that invites attack by deranged bullies like Putin, Xi. Pacifists need to go back and study the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962. Pres. Kennedy had to threaten military force (forcibly boarding and inspecting Russian ships) in order to get Nakita Kruschev to back down.
You don’t think those were nerve-wracking days for us boomer kids? But, we “got it” that Russia didn’t want nuclear war, and was just testing us. We passed the test.
Now, snowflakes, steel your fragile nerves…it’s your turn.
Are you kidding me? An outgoing President of the losing party decides to escalate a global conflict on his way out the door?
Since you’re obviously too dam stupid to pay attention to your own sides news, Biden has PROBITED the Ukraine from firing these missiles into Russian territory for the past THREE YEARS, ….. because according to Biden and the White House and Pentagon, it would “ESCALTE THE CONFLICT TO GLOBAL CONFRONTATION”.
Now with 60 days left in office, his Vice President having LOST the race, he SUDDENLY REVERSES THAT POLICY and INTENTIONALLY ESCALATES THE CONFLICT.
FA#$K YOU, and your slimeball cowardly trolling from behind your sissies anonymous handle.
You’re a punk, too afraid to come out of the shadows, running your mouth.
Chris: Putin decided to escalate the war when he imported Korean mercenaries because so many Russian troops were killed.
Yea, because brain dead Biden is at the helm.
“Dummy…you have to threaten WWIII in order to prevent it. “
Who is the dummy?
Did the US have to involve itself in overturning the Ukrainian government?
Did the US or its allies have to prevent a settlement from occurring?
Did the US and NATO have to threaten Russias integrity by enlisting Ukraine into NA\TO?
Did you not notice that no new war broke out under Trump?
Did Biden, on his way out, have to provoke Russia?
Who is the Dummy?
@’Gigi’
Anytime you say ‘Turls’, you expose yourself. We know you are multiple trolls on this site, have been for years, and nobody cares. 🤷🏻♂️ Granted, watching you respond to yourself through aliases is a very interesting daily study in schizophrenia. The biggest pfft imaginable. Go blow. Is ‘Turls’ in the room with you right now?
James,
HAAHAHHAAHHA! Good one!
And Karl Marx wrote a politically bizarre, incoherent, meandering, 30-page manifesto of deleterious, dictatorial, and inhuman communism in 1848.
He was expelled by the Belgian police and by Germany, seeking refuge in London.
Maybe Gigi should be expelled for spewing similar antithetical, anti-freedom blather, seeking refuge in Russia, Russia, Russia.
Specially crafted laws to trap one person? Damn right I am against what Bragg has done. When will he decide to make J-walking a first degree felony? Stop the madness and don’t mess with the
President, Donald Trump.
Good news! Comcast has decided to off load some of their less than stellar preforming cable TV networks to include MSNBC. Anonymous sources say they overheard one of the CEOs saying, “We need to get rid of that dead weight Maddow. She has been dragging us down for years now.”
Another CEO was overhead by even more anonymous sources saying, “Okay, we keep Bravo. It is the one bright spot in the line up. We can sell ‘reality tv’ like Realhouse Wives as ‘entertainment,’ but there is no way in h3ll we can spin Rachel Maddow as, ‘entertainment.’ No one will buy that. Only dupes will continue to tune into Maddow. The rest of America has woken up to the fact Maddow has been lying and gaslighting them for years. Best to cut and run now. Better to take the loss then end up like WaPo or the NYT.”
Note, yes, Comcast is in fact selling off MSNBC, CNBC, USA, Oxygen, E!, Syfy and the Golf Channel. They are in fact keeping Bravo.
The rest of my ‘anonymous’ quotes were nothing but satire, sarc and fiction for Gigi’s benefit! I hope the rest of you, those with a sense of humor, liked it!
“Trump trying to circumvent the “advise and consent” provision of the Constitution”
LMAO let me save him the trouble of responding to your stupid ass.
Trump has that right. Period. End of story.
If Bragg or Merchan possessed the intelligence we’d like to think was commensurate with high office they’d realize the deep state’s desperate desire to stave off the looming ecological disaster just might manifest itself into a false flag assassination of one (or more) of Trump’s many high-profile adversaries. Linking Trump to a murder, or even an attempt, would most assuredly secure the survival of the swamp and its creatures; those two New York idiots would be wise to quickly disqualify themselves as targets.
I’ve been listening for a the last year how Donald Trump is supposedly like Hitler and will be a dictator if he gets into office and now “David B. Benson” here is calling Trump criminally insane while ignoring the fact its Biden DOING the criminally insane things!!!!
He calls trump insane, well being the son of a World War II Vet from Holland, and speaking fairly good German I know quite a bit about Hitler and the rise and fall of the Nazi party and I am very familiar with his speeches and actions.
Hitler was crimally insane, and his final act, was his “Nerobefehl” (Nero Decree) that ordered the destruction of the German infrastructure, known commonly as Hitlers “scorched earth policy”. Hitler felt if the allies were going to take over Germany then to hell with Germany, … and the German people and decalred they should just burn it all down.
So the allies can’t have it.
Well, …here we are. Donald Trump easily beat Bidens sidekick ….what was her name again…. and is our new President taking office in 60 days.
Yet Joe Biden, with just 2 months left in office and being on the losing side, has decied to try to ignite World War III on his way out the door.
Monday he authorizes the use of U.S long range missiles to strike Russia from the Ukraine.
This morning he authorized the use of illegal antipersonnel mines in direct violation of the Ottawa treaty signed by the Ukraine, to be used against Russian troops.
So while the liberals might want to accuse Trump of being like Hitler, the fact is Joe Biden is doing exactly what Hitler did on his way out the door.
Trying to blow it all up before his opponent can take over.
They may think Trump sounds like Hitler but its Biden acting like him, paying us all back for voting for Trump by trying to get us all killed and blow up the planet.
Biden’s criminally insane at this point by his actions, not his words, and these are crimes hiding in plain sight.
Chris Weber,
Well said and spot on. But they have to distract from the so called “Sharp as a tack!” “Laser focused!” “Got kicked to the curb by his own party when it was obvious he was not mentally competent!” And now, “Mentally incompetent old fool is bumbling the world into WWIII!”
Who is insane?
<< Well said Chris,
"This morning he authorized the use of illegal antipersonnel mines in direct violation of the Ottawa treaty signed by the Ukraine, to be used against Russian troops."
I would add that the United States is also a signatory of the Ottawa Convention, and therefore the United States has just violated our signatory as well by supplying them to Ukraine.
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/ottawasigs
" It requires states-parties to destroy their stockpiled APLs within four years and eliminate all APL holdings, including mines currently planted in the soil, within 10 years."
Being the legal eagles they are, the Republicans have what to say in response? Well their not sure exactly. Plus a good many are either on vacation or at least not even showing up to counter the leftist trial court packing's. It's a hard decision…
https://thehill.com/homenews/4998825-us-ukraine-missile-policy-shift-biden-gop/
So perhaps the WH delinquents telling the Big Guy what to do, figured this was a good way to destroy our stockpiled APL's. We've all just witnessed how the leftist legal geniuses turned themselves into human pretzels with adolescent law-fare.
Actually we’re not. Go look at the list you just linked. We still retain the right along with China (of all nations) to use these nasty mines against people, the reason being it was part of the DMZ defenses in North Korea, so we would have to remove them in NK to sign the accord.
But the Ukraine IS on that list of signers, making this a criminal violation of international law.
“I would add that the United States is also a signatory of the Ottawa Convention”
What a weird way to say “Well, I haven’t actually READ that piece of paper – but I’m scared anyways”.
Chris was wrong, as are you now. A good start would be for both/all of you to actually go read that Ottawa Convention first before popping up to bugle about illegal mines.
You can be terrified because Ukraine now has anti-personnel mines like Russia does without lying that those mines are illegal under the Ottawa Convention.
This morning he authorized the use of illegal antipersonnel mines in direct violation of the Ottawa treaty signed by the Ukraine, to be used against Russian troops.
Every anti-personnel mine is deemed to be illegal through the Ottawa Treaty?
There’s some context and nuance missing here. For example, Canada where the Ottawa Treaty was signed STILL has and uses our Claymore mines. And obviously, we still deploy them as well.
We and our fellow NATO nations still using Claymore and similar anti-personnel mines have apparently been criminal thugs since 1997, when the Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on their Destruction was signed?
Anyone out there who actually took the time to read the Ottawa Treaty that can explain how that works?
Never trust anybody telling you only part of the story – rather than telling you the entire story.
Wait! The M18A1 Claymore mine in this video @:27 is not battery operated, it employs an M57 Electrical Firing Device (Clacker).
“Wait! The M18A1 Claymore mine in this video @:27 is not battery operated, it employs an M57 Electrical Firing Device (Clacker).”
Almost like it’s command detonated by a soldier – versus detonating by contact or proximity of a person?
Would that make a difference to the Ottawa Convention repeatedly being referenced today?
Anybody actually read that 18 page document?
(Yes, that’s about as obvious a hint as you can imagine)
Chris Weber posted:
This morning he authorized the use of illegal antipersonnel mines in direct violation of the Ottawa treaty signed by the Ukraine, to be used against Russian troops.
Illegal? Why would you claim they’re illegal? Chris, why didn’t you at least read that treaty before using it in your latest session of fear and hysteria? Read at least enough of that Ottawa treaty to realize that not all anti-personnel mines are banned?
Or at least be curious as to why we still manufacture, issue to our troops, and use some types of anti-personnel mines in the 20+ years since that treaty was signed?
Why didn’t you object to their use by our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq ever since 9/11? First under Bush, then Obama, then Trump, and now still being used under Biden?
You don’t care about your country using mines you know are illegal until just now, today?
Biden approves antipersonnel mines for Ukraine, undoing his own policy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/19/biden-landmines-ukraine-russia/
The United States has provided Ukraine with Claymores, a different type of antipersonnel mine, which are set above ground and TRIGGERED BY AN OPERATOR, making them permissible under mine ban conventions.
You should ask yourself and explain to the audience why you claim Claymore mines are banned by the treaty you cited – when in fact they are one of the multiple types of mines excluded from that treaty.
They’re illegal because the Ukraine is a signer, and they are indirect violation for the use of antipersonnel mines if they use them.
As for “hysteria”, . you can kiss my a$$ boy, you’re neither old or former airborne that’s for sure. You’re a troll, sitting online playing games running your mouth.
We have an outgoing President who is intentionally ESCALTING his proxy war into a GLOBAL CONFLICT and scumbag trolls like you are out here shilling for it.
F#$#$#$K YOU troll, and your war.
F#$#$#$K YOU troll, and your war.
Chris’s hysterical mangina is in full weep mode.
“My” war was America’s war after 9/11. Nearly a million Americans voluntarily fought in “my” war. You clearly missed those parts of “my” war.
Thankfully, you made sure you stayed home nice and safe as is your right – oxygen thieving scrotes that are a complete waste of skin and rations like you among the troops would have made the living conditions even worse. So thank you for saving us from that.
Right
The judge should immediately sentence Trump, the sentence to begin immediately. That way Trump’s lawyers can appeal whatever ‘reversible error’ they can find and the state appellate court ought to respond with some urgency.
Everyone should note that this is a New York State matter, not federal. That the laws about business records are so strict in New York might have to do with Wall Street.
Finally, I opine that Donald Trump is insane; many clinical psychologists and psychiatrists agree. So Trump belongs in a New York institution for the criminally insane.
If the laws are so strict, why didnt they charge Clinton with the same crimes as she did the exact same thing?
Fortunately for us, we can see with our own eyes and are in no need of your opinion. As others have noted, a professional psychologist or psychiatrist needs to actually sit down with a patient, have a session or twelve to make a real clinical diagnosis. To do otherwise is nothing but hearsay.
Farmer Up There — This is the first I’ve read about Clinton. But if so, she should have been charged.
Yes, a professional diagnosis requires one or more sessions with an expert on mental health. I have little doubt about the outcome.
See, michaeldix2f64102fb2 comment at November 20, 2024 at 11:44 AM below in regards to Clinton.
If you knew a professional diagnosis requires one or more sessions with an expert on mental health in person, not someone watching sound bites by a biased MSM, why did you even mention it?
And would your outcome analysis be the same as the election outcome?
David Dumbass Up There, how could you be unaware of the FEC finding about Clintons payments for the Steele Dossier?
Educate yourself. In this day and age, there is no excuse for being ignorant, if you desire to run your fat mouth.
The judge should immediately sentence Trump, the sentence to begin immediately.
How about this, Davy Benson from the coastal commie communities: Whatever that it sentence is, Trump’s AG his first day in office should immediately prosecute the unindicted felon Joe Biden in a change of venue to Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, North Dakota, etc.
Having your hand-picked DoJ “Special Counsel” say he will not indict his boss does not give Joe Biden amnesty for the crimes that prosecutor says he found happened repeatedly over decades. Biden of course can give amnesty to himself, his family, and every elected Democrat and bureaucrat that participated in that RICO wave of crime.
Is there a statute of limitations on RICO crimes that would include Obama, Clinton, Comey, McCabe, et al, Davie? Consult your Internet Lawyer?
You truly are concerned with crimes, aren’t you Davey? And that they be prosecuted – not just Trump?
After all, those are federal crimes, even if New York State prosecutors refused to indict any Democrat for their FEC crimes during those election campaigns.
Finally, I opine that Donald Trump is insane; many clinical psychologists and psychiatrists agree.
Oh yeah! The best in the business – same ones still assuring Americans Biden is completely mentally competent to be Command In Chief. While he has The First Felon Crackhead Kid Son auctioning off access to the nuclear football.
How many of those clinical psychologists and psychiatrists have actually examined Trump?
I’ll give you a hint. It’s a one digit number beginning with Z.
the mad lad
We’ve seen that a lot can happen in just a few months, much less 4 years. I think it far more likely that four years from now it will be Bragg, rather than Trump, behind bars.
We can only hope!
Paging prosecutor Alvin Bragg… Is he still in office hunting down the most dangerous criminals in New York? Dragging them into Judge Merchon’s court room for prosecution?
New York City Stabbing Mass Murder Suspect Had Eight Prior Arrests, Out On Bail During Attacks
https://dailycaller.com/2024/11/19/new-york-city-stabbing-spree-suspect-eight-prior-arrests-out-on-bail/
“ In a filing before Manhattan Justice Juan Merchan, Bragg suggested that the court should stay the pending criminal case and defer any sentencing “until after the end of defendant’s upcoming presidential term.”
That would allow a city prosecutor to put a leash on a sitting president for four years.”
What Turley is not saying is this is not unprecedented or illegal. It’s just unusual. Trump has nothing to worry about until he leaves office. Trump has no leash.
To suspend the case until Trump finishes his term is exactly what the law allows. Any president that commits a crime not covered under immunity cannot be prosecuted until he’s no longer president.
Turley should be blaming the Supreme court, not Bragg for setting the precedent.
“ That being said, I do not believe that the mere election of a president negates jury verdicts on 34 criminal counts.
But ample reasons exist to overturn those verdicts or to dismiss this case.
For example, after the verdict, the Supreme Court rendered its immunity decision barring the use of certain evidence against a president.
Some of the evidence used in the Manhattan case likely fell within one of the protected categories.”
A mere election does not negate a jury verdict of 34 FELONY criminal counts.
Turley does not have a clear path to excuse any dismissal of a jury’s verdict. That’s why he doesn’t go into specifics. If the case can be suspended until the Trump’s term ends then Trump will have to deal with it when he leaves office. Turley seems to think that just becuase Trump got elected is good enough reason to dismiss the verdict and essentially spit in the face of the rule of law.
What Turley is not saying is this is not unprecedented or illegal… Turley does not have a clear path to excuse any dismissal of a jury’s verdict.
What George never explains is why he comes here every single day to insult our host Professor Turley, with every single past proclaiming that George The Curious Democrat Monkey is right, and our host Professor Turley is always wrong.
Clearly, when the only other way George can get attention is to look in a mirror, posting his dreck here is the only other option to get attention he has.
You have another reason/excuse for the predictably identical nature of every one of your posts George?
You can’t use your pathetic excuse that your lack of reading comprehension leads to you misunderstanding Professor Turley’s columns and so you mistakenly criticize them and our host.
* What about those writs of mandamus or something…kick it up anyway?
“this is not unprecedented”
Name the precedent, ya spastic idiot.
“To suspend the case until Trump finishes his term is exactly what the law allows.”
Cite the law, ya nincompoop.
“Any president that commits a crime not covered under immunity cannot be prosecuted until he’s no longer president.”
He has already been prosecuted, ya fvcking imbecile. He has already been “convicted” according to you. So what the fvck are you even talking about?
If the trial is not complete until Merchan convicts and sentences, then Trump is protected by the 6th Amendment (speedy trial).
If the trial is complete, then your stupidity about “cannot be prosecuted” is just nonsensical gibberish.
Not to mention, he is NOT President, you ignorant stooge, so delaying sentencing today can have NOTHING to do with that.
Jeezus you are dumb.
“What Turley is not saying is this is not unprecedented or illegal.”
Name the precedent, ya spastic idiot.
“To suspend the case until Trump finishes his term is exactly what the law allows.”
Cite the law you refer to, spastic idiot.
“Any president that commits a crime not covered under immunity cannot be prosecuted until he’s no longer president.”
First of all, the prosecution is over, ya spastic nincompoop.
Second, Trump isn’t President, ya spastic libtard.
“Turley does not have a clear path to excuse any dismissal of a jury’s verdict. That’s why he doesn’t go into specifics.”
You quoted him giving the clear path, you moron. Quite specifically.
For example, after the verdict, the Supreme Court rendered its immunity decision barring the use of certain evidence against a president. Some of the evidence used in the Manhattan case likely fell within one of the protected categories.
You seem to have real reading comprehension problems. Sorry if he didn’t explain on a third grade level for you. Do you need me to?
“What Turley is not saying is this is not unprecedented . . .”
Name a single case in which a judge waited four years after conviction to sentence a defendant.
Or are you, yet again, just making stuff up.
Writ of Certiorari
Exactly, I couldn’t find that earlier.
https://www.brownstonelaw.com/blog/what-is-a-petition-for-writ-of-certiorari-and-what-does-the-supreme-court-do/
Yeah, those
Dear Mr. Turley, because of the raw political atmosphere that comprises New York, Mr. Trump was convicted on business practices long recognized as legal. It’s great that after all of the attempts by left leaning district attorneys, media and the White House, itself, Mr. Trump won and by a landslide at that!! It did not matter how it was sugarcoated, the majority of the people could see right through the lies and set up of Mr. Trump. He has a mandate from the citizens: to close the border, release our energy industry and end the nanny state. My understanding is that Ms. Harris is vacationing in Hawaii. Why isn’t she in Washington, D.C? Biden and in particular, Jill, do not want her around. Who would? After her $1 Billion spending spree, she has nowhere to turn.
“Business practices long recognized as legal” that were retrieved after years or decades for judicial “marketing” immediately prior to a presidential election.
The Soros prosecutors were unsuccessful and their stale product will have no usefulness against a termed-out 83-year-old man in 2029.
OT but good news, one of Biden’s illegals gets life in prison! Georgia judge finds Illegal immigrant guilty of murder in death of student Laken Riley
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/illegal-immigrant-found-guilty-murder-student-laken-riley
It’s like when the Covid vaccine doesn’t stop a virus at the border, but the body’s natural immunity cures the infection after all.
* why wasn’t he turned over to ICE the 1st time?
I would urge Merchan to sentence Trump and suspend the sentence for the time of the presidency. That would allow Trump to appeal a final judgment and for appellate courts to review the reversible error referenced by Prof Turley. Throwing out the case on immunity grounds will allow opponents to rightly say that trump was saved by SC justices he personally appointed. It would be better to let the regular process to play out and obtain reversal of the conviction on the merits.
Sorry to comment off topic because this is an important topic, Bragg needs to be thrown in Jail not Trump.
But this morning Joe Biden just authorized ILLEGAL Anti Personnel land mines for the Ukraine.
Never mind the Ukraine signed the Ottawa treaty BANNING these foul things.
Never mind that Joe Biden and Harris LOST the election and he’s on his way out with NO mandate from the public.
Yesterday he authorizes long range missiles constituting what Russia called an “Act of War” and this morning he authorizes illegal LAND MINES.
Whoever can still stand behind this man, is as evil and corrupt as he is. He is pure evil, and is there nothing Trump can do to stop this?
He’s trying to light up World War III before Trump can take office.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mu_inFM31o&w=679&h=382%5D
Chris,
Yep. I mentioned that below. Dangerous. Not needed. Unwarranted. All of the EU is in a panic preparing for WWIII and even nuclear war and Biden just keeps throwing fuel on the fire. I really hope Trump is able even prior to taking office to deescalate the situation and negotiate a ceasefire and peace deal. If he can, there will be rejoicing on both sides of the battle front and a collective sigh of relief from the rest of the EU.
No doubt, I can’t believe more people aren’t talking about this. First he authorizes long range missiles to strike Russia and today he authorizes the illegal use of antipersonnel land mines in violation of the Ottawa treaty that the Ukraine signed.
In what world does an outgoing President from the losing side get to do all this military escalation on his way out the door?
He’s criminally insane, and anyone still supporting this “demon” is too.
“First he authorizes long range missiles to strike Russia”
How DARE any Democrat president who reneged on our assurance to provide security to Ukraine in exchange for surrendering their nukes, first allow Putin to invade Ukraine after that – and then finally, reluctantly allow Ukraine to fight back against Russia with similar weapons!
Biden’s supposed to keep Ukraine starved of equal footing in air power, missiles, etc! Fighting a much larger invading power by demanding they keep one hand tied behind their back!
I wonder if we’d be in this war if the Ukrainians had decided Americans were untrustworthy liars and kept their nukes as a deterrent?
Of if we’d be in this war if Obama and now Biden had been presidents like Trump, Reagan, or even Bush for Putin to calculate his chances on?
“In what world” is right! Like him or hate him, had this been Trump, they would be calling for another snap impeachment. Dont care who it is, someone back us off playing WWIII/nuclear chicken.
Perhaps if the amateur hour kids running the White House had authorized this two years ago, it may have made some difference but at this point it is dangerous, reckless, and irresponsible, and ultimately doesn’t change anything except to attempt to poke a bear with a hat pin “after” it begins to tear your arm off. Won’t harm the bear, but it surely won’t make it leave you alone either.
UpstateFarmer says: “Dont care who it is, someone back us off playing WWIII/nuclear chicken.”
No better way to signal American strength (meaning deterrence) to enemies and allies alike by first promising to be Ukraine’s deterrence if they surrendered the nukes that were their deterrence – because we were terrified of them having nukes.
Then, TWICE reneging on our promise to Ukraine to come to their defense when they were invaded by Russia who no longer had to worry that Ukraine had more nukes than they had before. Now THAT’S what American deterrence to build national security looks like!
Doing so TWICE – while Ukraine had come to be one of the first to fight at our side first in Afghanistan and then Ukraine. From the first day to the last. Both before and after our cowardice in reneging on that promise.
Despite the fact the hajjis hadn’t attacked Ukraine and they could legitimately say “Not our war, the agreement didn’t say we had to come to America’s defense – only that they would come to ours if we gave up our nukes”
What are the chances that foreign leaders of countries that are both allies and adversaries would look at that in a different way than terrified Americans on blogs do? What are the chances they can evaluate and make decisions for their countries very different from those we make here on our opinions and fear? We’re far more certain to have “peace in our time” reneging on military commitments to allies, especially when they’re fighting beside us in our war on terrorism?
If you don’t think there are second and third order effects resulting from reneging on our commitments to Ukraine just as there are of our abandonment of Afghanistan to the hajjis, you really should think hard about your criteria for evaluating American security. Or what you thinks deters adversarial nations like Iran and the ChiComs.
I don’t think there’s any longer any good way out of this war after our feckless national cowardice and desertion of a country willingly fighting beside us in OUR war has put us in this spot. I also don’t blindly believe we should just randomly give Ukraine what they ask for.
That doesn’t mean single dimension fear should guide the decisions this country makes. “Peace in our time” appeasement and desertion of friendly nations can lead to a much greater war than imagined while attempting appeasement.
Are you suggesting back-channel negotiations by the transition team? Who leaked? Say the name.
Again, so long as Hillary Clinton, who committed the SAME crimes goes unprosecuted, Trump’s conciction violates fundamental fairness. HRC was even FINED by the FEC for mislabeling Steele Dossier payments as “Legal Services” on her submittals. This violated New York Penal Law 175.1E0, and was the “unlawful means” element of New York Election Law 17-152, which her lawyer Marc Elias also violated.
In essence, such an event might render the POTUS as compromised and potentially mean he would not be able to hold a security clearance due to the conflict which arises when someone, somewhere, with something, can hold it over the individual with a security clearance. Standard stuff in security clearance background investigations. IOW, the government worker, agent, official, etc., who forgot, or purposely withheld their background of say, snorting white powder when they were youthful and indiscriminate, means someone could have something on that individual which might provide a means of compromise of the individual allowing for potential bribery, or blackmail against that individual’s integrity.
Therefore, it would seem to me that the delay of any judgement in this case apart from whatever other constitutional violations are at play, is also unconstitutional by virtue of the fact that it renders the POTUS as compromised, and Trumps lawyers can’t add that to a filing for review. Any decision rendered by the POTUS regarding the State of New York in his/her official duties, might be viewed as biased by the citizens or officials of that state due to the charges held over his/her head. This consideration also likely played into the SCOTUS decision about official immunity.
If Alvin Bragg wasn’t running for reelection, this would already have been dropped. He needs campaign donations, so playing this out for the entertainment of his supporters gains him further campaign funds.
“All politics is local.”
–Associated Press Washington bureau chief Byron Price, 1932. (Also often credited to Thomas P. “Tip” O’Neill).
https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/new-report-how-manhattan-da-alvin-bragg-and-judge-merchan-violated
I appreciate your lengthy, well-thought-out reply, but I don’t agree – the President is the country’s Classification Authority, meaning he has access to all government secrets by virtue of his office. He is the one who ultimately decides if anything is classified and how much (secret, top secret, etc.) He is, literally, “above the law” in this area. IMO, that renders any handicap from a conviction inapplicable.
I agree with your outline, your thinking is correct. However, and perhaps I was not precise in where I was going with that. The candidacy of the POTUS security clearance approval is not the issue as you aptly point out. It is however, due to the concerns of bias and or compromise of integrity, a matter of any decision to delay the adjudication of, or sentencing of, this case is in and of itself unconstitutional.
Wish we could edit this stuff…
An error above, Trumps lawyers “can” add this to a review request even without conviction or adjudication. Error above said; “can’t” add.