The Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) is under fire this week after it censored a leading scientist, atheist, and board member, Jerry Coyne, a professor emeritus of ecology at the University of Chicago. The FFRF took down a Coyne column titled “Biology is not bigotry,” a critique of an earlier transgender column. The move followed objections from transgender activists and led to the resignation of biologist Richard Dawkins and Harvard University Professor Steven Pinker in support of Dr. Coyne and free speech. The FFRF board has decided to ring in the New Year by reinventing itself as a freedom from free speech foundation.
In my recent book, The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage”, I discuss cancel campaigns directed against figures like Dr. Pinker, who has also been the subject of this blog in his own fight for free speech.
In this controversy, Coyne published a column on Dec. 26th arguing that human sex is “binary” and seeking to separate the science from the politics in the transgender debate. The article critiqued the prior piece by Kat Grant, a fellow at the FFRF, titled “What is a Woman,” which concluded, “A woman is whoever she says she is.”
Coyne offered a view shared by many that “[i]n biology … a woman can be simply defined in four words: ‘An adult human female.’…Because some nonbinary people — or men who identify as women (‘transwomen’) — feel that their identity is not adequately recognized by biology, they choose to impose ideology onto biology and concoct a new definition of ‘woman.’” While Coyne supports equal rights for transgender people, he argued that, as a scientist, “feelings don’t create reality.”
Notably, the posting noted that the FFRF was sharing Coyne’s view as a courtesy to an honorary board member and that the views do not necessarily reflect the organization.
That was not good enough. The transgender community and others on the left responded with an all-too-familiar cancel campaign and demanded that Coyne be censored. Figures like Evan Clark, Executive Director of Atheists United, said, “If you still support FFRF, I’d encourage you to pull your donations and talk to their leadership about the importance of trans rights in the battle against white Christian nationalism.”
The FFRF caved into the pressure, removed Coyne’s publication, and called its posting a “mistake.”
According to his later account, despite being an honorary board member, Coyne did not receive a response to inquiries from co-president Annie Laurie Gaylor.
FFRF did make a major mistake but it was not in allowing a diversity of opinion on its site. Coyne’s essay has now been republished on Reality’s Last Stand.
Coyne also ran a response to the FFRF co-Presidents Annie Laurie Gaylor and Dan Barker in which he stated that he resigned due to “the censorious behavior I cannot abide” in the removal of his article. He noted that he and others had previously objected to the “mission creep” at the FFRF “to adhere to ‘progressive’ political or ideological positions.”
He then added a haymaker that said that this is all strikingly familiar to FFRF members. It is the very orthodoxy that the organization was created to combat:
“The gender ideology which caused you to take down my article is itself quasi-religious, having many aspects of religions and cults, including dogma, blasphemy, belief in what is palpably untrue (“a woman is whoever she says she is”), apostasy, and a tendency to ignore science when it contradicts a preferred ideology.”
The action taken against Dr. Coyne is reminiscent of the campaigns targeting writer “Harry Potter” creator J.K. Rowling. We have been discussing this campaign against Rowling, a feminist who has opposed transgender policies that she views as inimical to the rights of women.
To their credit, Pinker and Dawkins also submitted their resignations in solidarity with Coyne and free speech. Pinker wrote “With this action, the Foundation is no longer a defender of freedom from religion but the imposer of a new religion, complete with dogma, blasphemy, and heretics.”
Dawkins also wrote a resignation letter objecting to the “unseemly panic” in response to “hysterical squeals from predictable quarters.”
The resignations from the FFRF raised some of the same points made by “old guard” figures who have left the ACLU over its own abandonment of neutrality and effort “to adhere to ‘progressive’ political or ideological positions.”
There is a worthy debate over transgender issues in science. Dr. Coyne was attempting to contribute to that debate. Yet, many prefer to work to silence others rather than respond to opposing views. Indeed, I was hoping that Kat Grant would come out to support Dr. Coyne in his effort to offer such a critique of her work.
Liberals have come out in support of the censorship, dismissing Coyne as someone who simply “rehashes the right-wing talking point” and “promot[es] this kind of hate.” (This commentator noted that his views were published on BlueSky, a site that has become a safe space for liberals who do not want to be triggered by opposing views).
The intolerance for opposing views is so great that the FFRF is willing to engage in atheist orthodoxy, which not long ago would have been viewed as a contradiction in terms. It is a disgraceful position for a group that once defended those banned or canceled for their views. It is a moment that reminds one of what Robert Oppenheimer said about physicists, but it is particularly poignant for these atheists who have joined a mob to silence: they “have known sin; and this is a knowledge which they cannot lose.”
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
*on topic
For biologists the world’s living organisms are feed and breed . Humans feed in various ways and breed via two sexes, male and female aka man and woman. That’s all you need to know.
So many humans are created there are some mistakes that happen, birth defects. These present disorders. They are rare. Much of the argument relies on bunk and medical malpractice. If your daughter plays with Tonka trucks her brother probably likes them. He’s her friend.
The best way to raise heteronormative kids is the 2-parent married couple. For conservatives, this means seriously engaging with the dwindling economics of pair-bonding and marriage before age 20. Is the economy in charge of culture, or culture in charge of the economy? If the job market were to “get its way”, childraising (which interferes with adult workplace priorities) would simply disappear, and the entire society 3 generations later.
It’s time to figure out how to reharmonize life paths for young adults with pair-bonding (on Mother Nature’s schedule), and make the economics adapt to support that. This likely means parents and grandparents taking up a role supporting early marriage of late teens, putting off grandchildren for 5-10 years, and gradually emancipating the couple over 10 years as they increase their earning power.
If we don’t make pair-bonding and marriage a priority over financial independence of a young couple, we’ll continiue to see economic forces cannibalize our reproductive culture — it will devour everything in its path unless overpowered.
You could always accept less materially. Accept a job offer in an area with lower wages, with a corresponding lower cost of living. Buy a smaller home. no one needs 3000+ sqft to get by. Get as far away from the HOA as possible. Stop buying new cars every two or three years. Drop all the streaming services nobody watches. Start actually cooking at home, actual cooking, not reheating things in boxes and bags.
Life can still be relatively affordable with a little common sense.
OT, VDH’s latest piece raises an interesting point: the globalist Left, with its anti-energy anti-growth green mandates, together with its erasure of national borders – and Germany’s own suicidal embrace of those policies – have left Germany much weaker vis-à-vis Russia, which notably has not signed onto the same lunacy. This means Germany is impotent to help Ukraine and its corrupt liberal-hero dictator who has shut down the media and shut down entire religions in his country. Ironic, no?
https://victorhanson.com/germanys-new-morgenthau-plan/
There is a tragic footnote to the aborted horrors of the Morgenthau Plan. Currently, Germany is doing to itself almost everything Morgenthau once dreamed of. Its green delusions have shut down far too many of its nuclear, coal, and gas electrical generation plants. Erratic solar and wind “sustainable energy” means that power costs are four times higher than on average in the United States. Once-dominant European giants Volkswagen, BMW, and Mercedes are now bleeding customers and profits. Their own government’s green and electric vehicle mandates ensure they will become globally uncompetitive. The German economy actually shrank in 2023. And the diminished Ruhr can no longer save the German economy from its own utopian politicians.
The German military is all but disarmed and short thousands of recruits. German industries do not produce enough ammunition, tanks, ships, and aircraft to equip even its diminished army, navy, and air force. Just a few hundred miles from Germany in Ukraine, more than a million Ukrainians and Russians are dead, wounded, or missing—in the costliest European battle since the horrors of Stalingrad. Yet the once postwar German dynamo nation now lacks the manpower, munitions, and money to aid Ukraine in any meaningful way against an ascendant Russian invader.
George and GiGi Get Married!
A Brief Fable
Sooo, two Woke Leftist Democrats met at a fundraiser for Luigi Mangione, the accused slayed of the Health CEO. As they talked over drinks, they discovered that they both posted on the Res Ipsa website, and MAGIC ensued! They decided to get married, and a few month later, Gigi found out she was pregnant. With twins, no less. Gigi made the difficult decision not to kill her babies.
George and Gigi decided to move from their downtown apartment, to a house, with a yard, and a white picket fence. I mean wood pickets, not protesting-type pickets. But where to move??? Housing was cheap in the nearby predominantly black neighborhood of Trayvon Terraces, and there were large yards, and plenty of nighttime activity, and sirens, and booming sounds, much like fireworks. There was even a predominantly black school within walking distance of all the houses – K-12 it was, the Michael Brown Schools, with a “Hands up, don’t shoot!”” statue of Michael Brown, on his knees, begging for his life.
A bit further away was Heatherbrae Hills, a predominantly white enclave, where the housing prices were much, much higher, and the nightlife consisted of dull and boring stuff, like bowling alleys, movie theaters showing classic films, and a shopping mall.
to George and Gigi made the studied decision to move to Heatherbrae Hills, so as not to make the black residents of Trayvon Terraces uncomfortable with their own whiteness.
Now, as Gigi’s delivery date approached, the couple decided to hire a nanny for the children. They advertised in the Heatherbrae Hills Clarion. Marie, a young girl from France applied. As did a transwoman who looked a lot like Gorlock, the Destroyer, and several other transwomen, who were much skinnier, although they did have beards and facial hair. Oh, what to do? George and Gigi wanted to support the LGBTQetc community, but there was just something about Marie, that made them choose her.
On their daily commute to the city, to work, they always gassed up their vehicles in Heatherbrae Hills, even though there was a cheaper station in Trayvon Terraces. The same held true with groceries. As a young family with not-unlimited means, they could save money by shopping a Big Discounts Grocery Store in Trayvon Terraces, but they told themselves that waiting for the security personnel, I mean grocery store staff, to unlock the personal care items was too tie consuming.
After a series of armed robberies of vehicles passing through Trayvon Terraces, they started going to the city by taking the long route, via the inner loop, even though gasoline was about $4.50 per gallon. After several home invasions in Heatherbrae Hill, but criminal gangs from Trayvon Terraces, both George and Gigi bought assault-rifle type guns for home defense and obtained concealed carry permits, for Glocks.
Throughout this time, both George and Gigi were very active in Democrat politics, and advocates of all things woke. Then, one day, that all changed. . .
HAHAHAHAHA!! Floyd got triggered. Good thing you’re in Turley’s safe space.
What would you and GooGoo do if he weren’t, wordsmith him to death with Wikipeaks?
George,
Dude, I have six cat pans to clean daily. One is very big, and filled with clay-type litter. Sooo, I am pretty used to dealing with pieces of poop. “Litter”ally 10 pounds of poop per day, or more. I assure you that I am fairly un-triggerable.
Put in a cat door so the cats can exit to do god’s work. No cat pans.
I hope to do that one day, if I can move to a place where I can put up a 10-foot cyclone fence, and a secure bottom.
Fresh and original content on the Turley blog! Who knew?
Thanks for this and keep it coming.
Floyd,
That was pretty good! Looks like the slow and dumb one got triggered by your satire and humor!
How marvelous!
George Bernard Shaw: ‘Limits of Toleration’
“Assassination is the extreme form of censorship”
This two edged subject today has been stricken with the otter nonsense of redefinition of words to elevate causes.
Hey Y, why are you in such a hurry pushing everyone out of the way?
Because I’m overloaded with SRY and I have a destination in sight.
I sure hope they name me Earl.
Presently it is not possible to transfer a chromosomal systems mechanism, and that includes Hermaphrodites’.
The sides of the issues are then not SCIENCETIFIC, but instead are (?) and too numerous to mention.
Segregation once was solidly about race but has of recently been used as a philosophical weapon against free speech.
God help us All!
“Assassination is the extreme form of censorship”
It is possible that your Shaw quote may have become outdated, since we live in a time when an author’s published works may be (and are, with increasing frequency) distorted completely beyond recognition by some outfit that acquired the rights to his work from the late author or his estate. That, I guess, is the penultimate form of censorship.
OK, time for me to clean cat pans, so I am putting this on to listen to:
Not being legally trained, what I simply do not understand is why anyone would use gender, an arguably fluid and clearly non-objective concept, in a legislation, legal judgement, or various rule-making processes. I would think that your better laws are based on terms that can be objectively determined rather than being subjectively defined. Granted that in other realms of thought, subjective terms can be useful.
Arnold – one thing legal training tries to do is teach people to be precise in what they’re talking about (not saying it always works, but it tries). So . . . I think you’d have to point to precisely what law or judicial ruling you’re talking about. Only then can your question be answered.
yes, it teaches them how to precisely define the meaning of IS.
“why anyone would use gender, an arguably fluid and clearly non-objective concept, in a legislation, legal judgement, or various rule-making processes.”
For the same reason that our public “servants” do most of what they do – to increase their power over the rest of us.
As I mentioned before, the people who censor are never the good guys.
But, says George, nobody censored anything because some other media outlet published the article. Also, he emphasizes, they’re a private organization, so they can choose not to print what they don’t want to print (although I had not mentioned anything about the First Amendment or FFRF not having a right to censor content — this fallback to “they have a right to censor” is usually used by the losing side in an argument where nobody was previously claiming otherwise).
To censor is defined as to delete or suppress anything considered objectionable (Mirriam-Webster)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censor#:~:text=transitive%20verb,suppress%20or%20delete%20as%20objectionable
George is getting all mixed up because he’s trying to deny the obvious. The article has not been banned by the government, but it has been censored by the original publication, which most certainly did “delete or suppress” it. I would have more respect for our leftist fiends on this blog if they would just admit when someone on their side does stupid or ridiculous or blameworthy things. I am perfectly willing to admit when conservative organizations do something dumb, as I have never claimed they are perfect. But, poor George, he must be so insecure that he has to defend the indefensible with faulty logic and faulty definitions for fear that some organization on the Left might be portrayed as not totally perfect.
It’s a tough question. I think.
https://youtu.be/obEuhzJ5XnA
A female homo sapiens sapiens that bears children.
At first I suffered difficulty in understanding a nexus between the ostensible mission/chartered purpose of FFRF and its fierce handling of Dr. Coyne’s scientific approach to transsexualism.
Then I looked up Coyne’s response, and voila! This is what he says:
“Several things are clear, including a point I’ve made before: the FFRF has a remarkable ability to place any kind of antiwoke ideology under the rubric of ‘Christian nationalism.’”
https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024/12/28/the-ffrf-removed-my-piece-on-the-biological-definition-of-woman
Succinctly. Precisely. Pithy.
Lyn, it’s understandable that Coyne will react negatively to his guest article being removed. They keyword here being “guest.” He seems more upset about the fact that they can take such actions than about what those actions represent. He wasn’t censored; the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) simply changed their minds, which is within their right to do as an exercise of free speech.
Coyne still had his article published elsewhere and was able to express his opinions and criticisms of Grant’s views.
While some of Coyne’s points have merit, he undermined his own argument when he acknowledged that, even in nature, sex is not strictly binary or pigeonholed into a single definition, despite trying to do so in his article. Turley used this incident to paint an overly broad picture of liberals, appealing to his less informed readers who prefer clear and absolute definitions, viewing anything outside of that framework as unequivocally wrong or evil. Unfortunately, this perspective does not align with how science understands gender identity and sex; reality is much more complex than they are willing to accept.
@George: Lyn, it’s understandable that Coyne will react negatively to his guest article being removed.
What’s CERTAIN, George, is that every day you will always disagree with, contradict, and demagogue and lie about your host, Professor Turley. It’s unanimous, without exception.
And he still allows you to be a parasite using his blog to post your contrarian, demagoguing views as though it were your own.
What ISN’T understandable George, is what kind of self-gratification you get from doing this. You are pretty much uniformly rejected, mocked and looked on as a Marxist Useful Idiot apparatchik here.
So why are you here, George?
Old Airborne Dog
Old Dog, apparently you continuously fail to comprehend a lot of things and the best way to vent about that failure is to go on a rant.
George, you Curious Marxist Monkey, you never have anything other than “I proclaim all of you people simply don’t comprehend my hypocritical Marxist theologian word salad”.
You’re a cheap fake George. Whether attempting to self-identify with the persona of constitutional expert, religious theologian, or intellectual.
If nothing else, your contrarian hypocrisy each day exposes you for the fraud that you are.
Why are you here where everybody despises and mocks you George?
Have you ever asked yourself that question?
Old Airborne Dog.
* homosexual America as a culture has been rejected.
^ they want birth defects and death… it’s perversion that also effects brain tissue. It’s impervious to reason and conscience.
The Freedom From Religion Foundation is now in the same spaceship as Queers For Hamas. Their nasty little ship has crashed into the rocks of intersectionality.
Queers for Hamas support terrorists who would happily airmail each one of them one way from the rooftops to the streets below.
The FFRF takes their cause from the First Amendment (which DOES NOT protect a right to be shielded from seeing or hearing anything religious). That would the the same amendment that, while it doesn’t guarantee them what they want in their version of religious freedom, also clearly expresses the right of personal thoughts, beliefs, speech, etc.
So in their intersectional world, they attempt to claim a version of religious rights that does not exist – while at the same time kicking dirt in the face of the concept of freedom of thought, belief, and expression of those thoughts and beliefs.
Certainly free speech (and religious rights) under the First Amendment can be curtailed or explicitly ordered to be off limits by an employer, an association like the FFRF, etc. These are not government entities as the First Amendment refers to.
But this is intersectional illogical thought out in the open for all to see. Demanding a wild expansion of what they claim as freedom of religion – while denying even the slightest expansion of the rights of free thought and expression of those thoughts to apply to them and their club.
Much like the trannies, the meaning of words is regularly re-interpreted and defined in hopes they will get what they want.
Rather reminiscent of Illegal Aliens we are now demanded to refer to as “undocumented immigrants”. An Illegal Alien is about as close to being an immigrant as a 6’2″ tranny with dick and balls hanging being a female member of the Freedom From Religion Foundation.
Intersectionality… when all else fails, go full speed irrational.
Old Airborne Dog
A real Airborne soldier would be proud and not be too cowardly to answer the question:
What were your MOS, Awards, Campaign, and Theater?
If you weren’t a pedophile who escaped life in the brig, currently on probation and prohibited from using the internet to prevent you luring more little boys, you wouldn’t post Anonymously, Airsoft Gun Bunny.
Old Airborne Dog
(see! Posting with a unique username is so easy! If you aren’t terrified of being put in the brig for violating your probation)
Professor Turley recently praised civility…
So, still no answer from the Old Cowardiceborne Puppy.
KP. Cleaning up mess hall & in barracks, latrines, and other areas.
😂 the magic bus.
I think many who have taken the time to “examine this closely” realize there are many amongst us who possess physical characteristics both male and female. That does not, however, change the fact that they possess a singular sex, male OR female (generally speaking). And sex, gender a modern euphemism, is not something that can be altered by medical science. Anything else is pure fantasy. But that is not the issue here is it? Continued censorship by progressives is the issue. How is it we’ve come to label the illiberal and the less liberal as “progressive”? When it is clear to all that what they actually represent is a reprimitivization?
They call themselves progressive because they see themselves on the side of history. My car was struck once by a vehicle insured by Progressive Casualty, so I always think first they hit you and then it just gets worse.
This has been a long time problem in atheist movement. There are people who came to atheism via rationality like Coyne, Pinker, and Dawkins. And then there are people who are atheists because they hate the christian right. Fifteen or so years ago this came to a head because rationalist atheists started going after Islam, and the leftists couldn’t stand that. If you’re interested, look up “Atheism+” to see how all that went down.
You can see this right inside the FFRF statement: “the importance of trans rights in the battle against white Christian nationalism”. For FFRF, the goal isn’t Atheism anymore; It’s now about the annihilation of the Christian Right.
The people who favor censorship are never the good guys.
Their tactic is stupid too: they are too dumb to realize that by censoring opposing views, they only make themselves look weak and unbelievable. If they were more intelligent, they’d write a rejoinder instead. People who actually believe what they say are willing to let the other side speak, and they are ready with rejoinders. People who are insecure about what they say try to silence opposing viewpoints.
OldManFromKS,
Well said.
They have the right to say what they want. I can listen. Or I can choose not too and walk away. Same reason why I dont watch or read MSM.
The problem is as Pbinca noted, is that this is not censorship. Coyne’s article is still available to anyone on the internet. FFRF is a private organization and they have their own free speech right to change their mind and recind the published article. Just as Turley has every right to remove openly racist comments and offensive language because he doesn’t agree with it. Based on that he is as censorious as those he accuses. If Turley is so gung-ho about allowing different points of view and opinion why doesn’t he allow guest columns on his blog that express an opposing view or even a offensive political view? He sure likes to attack those who don’t allow it, but when has he ever allowed others to post a controversial column with an opposing view in his blog?
The problem is as Pbinca noted, is that this is not censorship. Coyne’s article is still available to anyone on the internet.
And the FFRF also can have their unique version of religious freedom at home, inside their houses, scrubbed of all religion other than the Rock Fairy Religion of Atheism. And therefore, there will be no violation of their ridiculous interpretation of “freedom FROM religion”.
By George’s word salad constitutional logic, reminiscent of DEI Hire Harris, Second Amendment rights to bear arms are still available to anyone living in Hawaii, Washington DC, etc. They just need to move to Idaho, Montana, or any of the other states that allow the Second Amendment to be exercised by those legally in those states.
The First Amendment does not state what they hope the rest of America will give them: freedom from exposure anywhere in their lives to any sight or sound of a religion other than the Rock Fairy Religion Of Atheism. As a self-identifying Constitutional scholar and expert, George should know their version of First Amendment religious freedom is pure Bull Schiff.
The intersectional basis of the rage held by the FFRF might explain George’s irrational hatred of Professor Turley that he comes here every day to express.
A rational person (arguably including some Marxists) would start their own blog. But not George. Instead, he is here multiple times each day as a social media parasite, a tapeworm depending on his host’s columns to publish his own unique, totally opposite blog.
George is, among other things, a cheap fake constitutional expert.
Old Airborne Dog
Old Coward Dog
But FFRF did make a decision and did willingly publish the article and did engage in offering a platform for strong debate. They regretted it after criticism from the prevailing dogma. They then censored themselves, if you prefer, not Coyle, and they look very look very silly, weak and pusillanimous for doing so.
Sex is genetic: male, female. Gender is sex-correlated attributes (e.g. sexual orientation) :masculine, feminine. Trans refers to a state or process of divergence. Transgender is a spectrum (e.g. homosexual). The Rainbow symbols and rhetoric in human context are albinophobic. Religion is a behavioral protocol or model. Atheism is a faith (i.e. trust logical domain).
Um, what?
“Atheism” is a word frequently used in error, when “agnosticism” would be more appropriate. I do not proclaim the absence of something unless I can prove (to a standard of reasonable probability in this case) that it does not or cannot exist. I cannot prove that no beings of any kind with powers beyond the scale of human abilities exist, or have ever existed, therefore I am not an atheist, I am an agnostic. However, if there was any real proof available, I would bet you serious money, at odds favorable to you, that the Almighty God of Hebrews, Christians, and Muslims is/was entirely fictitious, and that Jesus and Mohamed were also, although one or both may have been loosely based on persons who did actually live, imbued with fictional powers, and granted responsibility for exploits greatly exaggerated or completely fabricated. There have always been those who seek unearned and undeserved power over others. The ability to sell a claim of access to an unseen, all-powerful deity is one of the primary ploys those seeking such power have used to obtain it.
“. . . if there was any real proof available . . .”
There is such a proof. It’s called reduction to the impossible.
Your last two sentences are well said.
“It’s called reduction to the impossible.”
I think that principle validly applies to claims made by any specific religion; I’m not convinced that it can be applies generically to categorically eliminate the possibility that some creature of hominid similarity with abilities that might appear magical to primitive homo sapiens was ever present anywhere on Earth. That is a trick that many of us alive to day could pull off fairly easily, had we only the ability to traverse the time dimension along with a fairly modest assortment of equipment. Regardless, I do regard the last part of that post as the most important.
Did anyone try contacting Professor Jerry Coyne, at night, in the dark, during a full moon?
While I have no doubt that some (?? many) trans people have mental illness, it has been my thought for some time that epigenetic marks are a likely cause of legitimate trangenderism (absolute precision in making this diagnosis is essential I might add). So, while these people may legitimately feel female or male, and should be afforded all the rights they deserve, their biology is determined by their sex chromosomes in nearly every person (intersex being one of these exceptions). The kerfuffle over “what is a woman” or “what is a man” seems to me to merely be a semantic one and perhaps adding “transman” and “transwoman” to our lexicon of genders would resolve things. But I fear I’m being way to naive to think it’s that simple, so never mind me.
Facts matter. You can not change your sex, period. You can dress up like the opposite sex. You can even get surgery, and take hormones to mimic the appearance of the opposite sex. But in the end, all you have is an advanced level transvestite.
By giving such a person respect, you make confusing what should be the least confusing thing imaginable. This impacts society, negatively. Children grow up with the added problem of gender confusion, where there should be none. All because some silly, perverted little men want to wear panties and a bra.
Sorry. Not sorry. They can all go eff themselves.
“ Facts matter. You can not change your sex, period.”
Sure you can. They do it all the time. Surgically, that is. Don’t conservatives claim that you’re not a woman if you have a penis, but when it’s changed surgically, it still does not? Genitalia determines the anatomy of a female and male, no?
No.
By all means, lets us all be respectful of bullsh!t like this:
https://www.amazon.com/My-Daddys-Belly-Transgender-giving/dp/1916975003?tag=googhydr-20&source=dsa&hvcampaign=books&gclid=Cj0KCQiAj9m7BhD1ARIsANsIIvAFzAWYeYYeXnkVOinsTtOF8b6HqH2-GP2vvrQBUDxEVMIEtp7S6X8aAhiIEALw_wcB
Incredible! To quote Will Ferrell in Elf, they “sit on a throne of lies.”
My father is a mother in the liberal fashion of my parents are my two fathers and a womb farm or two mothers and a sperm bank. Progressive sects also believe that a child is delivered by Stork when not deemed a “burden” in a wicked solution. Under Democratic law, it us illegal to discriminate by sexual orientation (e.g. pedophilia, incest, sadomasochism, homosexuality) and elective abortion is a hate crime under Loving. Their Pro-Choice (i.e. selective, opportunistic, politically congruent) religion is a convoluted, dysfunctional mess.
Biden continues to cover up his son’s crimes by silencing Gal Luft
Claims of false allegations about Biden-family crimes recently resulted in an indictment and guilty plea by Alexander Smirnov, but no comparable charge has ever been made against Luft who is imprisoned in Cyprus on a dubious US extradition charge. [Opinion].
By: Nathan Lewin ~ Dec 31, 2024
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/401569
The Hunter Biden pardon and its connection to Alabama’s Admiral Kent Davis
“… Given the future implications and the severity of any alleged crimes brought forth, it is imperative that the public is fully aware of the intimate details surrounding Hunter Biden’s removal from the U.S. Navy, particularly as they relate to former Alabama Department of Veteran’s Affairs commissioner Admiral Kent Davis. …”
By: Troy Carico and Bryan Battaglia ~ 12.29.24
https://1819news.com/news/item/troy-carico-and-bryan-battaglia-the-hunter-biden-pardon-and-its-connection-to-alabamas-admiral-kent-davis
US Attorney Matthew Graves to resign after failing to charge Hunter Biden, letting DC crime run rampant
WASHINGTON — DC US Attorney Matthew Graves announced Monday that he will resign before President-elect Donald Trump retakes the White House — likely avoiding an involuntary departure after controversial decisions not to criminally charge first son Hunter Biden and most local crimes.
“Serving as the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia has been the honor of a lifetime,” Graves said in a statement announcing his resignation, effective Jan. 16.
By Steven Nelson ~ Dec. 30, 2024
[Link] nypost.com/2024/12/30/us-news/us-attorney-matthew-graves-resigns-after-decisions-not-to-charge-hunter-biden-letting-dc-crime-run-rampant/
Hunter Biden’s ‘sugar brother’ Kevin Morris won’t be disbarred for allegedly spying on film production about first family’s foreign dealings
First son Hunter Biden’s “sugar brother” and lawyer Kevin Morris won’t be disbarred for infiltrating a film project about President Biden’s role in his family’s foreign dealings, The Post has learned.
Morris, 61, was hit with a bar complaint in 2022 by filmmaker Phelim McAleer, who said that the rich Hollywood lawyer unethically misrepresented himself to spy on the production of “My Son Hunter” in Serbia.
By: Steven Nelson, Miranda Devine – NY Post ~ December 30, 2024
[Link] nypost.com/2024/12/30/us-news/hunter-bidens-sugar-brother-kevin-morris-wont-be-disbarred-for-allegedly-spying-on-film-production-about-first-familys-foreign-dealings/
Transgender rights: The right to force the rest of us to ignore reality and not call them out as, “That is a dude in a dress,” or “That is a chick in a suit.” The right to force the rest of us to use stupid pronouns. The right to force us and everyone else to allow biological men to compete in women’s sports, taking awards, medals, spots, even scholorships from biological females. The right to force themselves into women’s locker rooms, women’s bath rooms, etc.
Transgender rights is just the simple courtesy of addressing someone as they wish. Nobody should be forcing anything. The least that can be done is to treat others with a bit of courtesy or dignity. You don’t go around calling mentally ill people “retards” because you think they should be regardless of their true mental condition, right?
Wrong, I am not required by the law to be courteous to anyone, especially to weirdos who are mentally ill.
Common courtesy, not legal obligation, guides how we address others. They cannot demand recognition based on their self-identification. However, misidentifying someone out of spite or malicious intent is rude to anyone. You wouldn’t accept others calling you a woman or a man just because they feel like it and out of spite, right?
Common courtesy, not legal obligation, guides how we address others.
And there is no common courtesy in the way you insult and demagogue your host Professor Turley each and every day, George.
George, you don’t care one tiny whit for “common courtesy”. Your pathological hatred and use of his blog to attack Professor Turley is emblematic of the hypocrisy of Democrat Marxist theologians like yourself, George.
We see it. And your excuses about “reading comprehension” don’t mask who and what you are.
Old Airborne Dog
No. Screw courtesy. These sickos can go eff themselves. They are mostly sicko, perverted men who are trying to normalize their fetishes, and eff them!
Ma’am that is not what Jesus would do.
Yes, the Bible is very pro-Gay, right? “Abomination” is such a wishy-washy, ambivalent word. So I am sure that trannies would have been highly respected in Jolly Old Israel.
But wait a minute – you had queers in Old Israel. We know this from the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. And from the words castigating this behavior in the New Testament. But I do not recall reading anything about trannies in the Bible. Why is that?
Eating shrimp is an abomination. So is wearing clothes made of different materials. How come you’re not losing your mind and chastising people who frequent Red Lobster, or anyone wearing cotton/polyester blend clothing?
The bible condones slavery and incest. But they happened with surprising regularity.
If the bible doesn’t claim transgenderism a sin but it does for homosexuality does it mean it’s ok?
My husband is an orthodox Rav and there are many references in the Torah concerning people of confused genders. Please cite all oof the Torah before speaking.
I have not seen much of the gender confused, if any at all, in the Bible. Perhaps in Jewish writings there is more of that stuff. There is an area of intersection between homosexuality and trans. Specifically, men dressing up as women to appeal to straight men.
See this rather long paper on The Man Who Would Be Queen by Bailey –
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3170124/pdf/10508_2007_Article_9301.pdf
I would be very interested in any Torah writings on trannies.
Ocean insects like shrimp etc can carry diseases. Ancients realized that. I ate some the other day grown in a sewer no doubt and vomited for 2 days. Exoskeleton. That single strand of RNA is waste from some place and moves into human cells to use your DNA to reproduce. It has no gender but will use your machinery until you die. It’s not smart.
Floyd,
I think Jesus would of looked at them and said they were mentally ill and would of prayed for them. I could be wrong.
Jesus spent more time chastising his own followers than anyone else because they spent more time judging others. Irony?
I also think that Jesus would have told them to get their sh!t in one sandal. Or, maybe he would have driven whatever demons possessed them out into a herd of unicorns, or something.
They were referred to in several ways. Just talk to a Torah scholar and you will understand the very nuanced way in which they dealt with various forms of gender confusion.
People referring to themselves as current day “Christians” are not following the true words because they have been secularism by our media/education industries. So quoting some pap about “what would Jesus do” is not a true biblical reference. Read the Torah in its original Hebrew.
Right, go your way, George, and do it no more.
Go away.
My response to your (act of courtesy to the mentally ill to not call them “retarded”) would be that first we must get the transgenders to admit that they have a mental illness and if they don’t then I would need search for an ulterior motive for their actions – especially around children. This isn’t a much about courtesy as it is about creating a mythology out of whole cloth and expecting the rest of us to convert to their cult.
It’s not a mental illness. Wanting to call it that so YOU feel more comfortable about their choice is the problem. How about leaving them alone, and if you don’t agree with their positions or views, why not remain silent?
Why is there a need for you to assume they have an ulterior motive? We could assume the same about you. You could have an ulterior motive to deny them their existance because you just don’t like the idea that they can make the choice or feel the need to identify differently. Does that threaten you somehow? Why so much concern about other peoples children? If you don’t want your children to associate with those ideas teach them or tell them not to associate with them and to be absolutely secure in that notion don’t ever let your children leave the house. Keep them safe from the bad influences of the world. That’s your right.
“ This isn’t a much about courtesy as it is about creating a mythology out of whole cloth and expecting the rest of us to convert to their cult.”
Funny, you can apply that same logic to religion. Christians have been doing that for hundreds of years already.
“It’s not a mental illness. ”
That is where you go off the rails. Right at the get-go. Here is a non-polictically correct medical view.
https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/scpsva/Board.nsf/files/B8UR4X6C2467/$file/01-08-19%20Citizen%20Handouts%20(L.%20Lineweaver).pdf
Oh, just one guy. Apparently he’s not in the majority. Gender Dysphoria is not a mental illness according to everyone else,
https://www.mentalhealthjournal.org/articles/gender-incongruence-is-no-longer-a-mental-disorder.html
You do know the old adage that 99%of all scientists agree with who’s funding them. Most of that funding for your studies were purchased by those pushing this ludicrous agenda. Sorry , but our government and private institutions are experiencing a big round of skepticism these day – and rightly so
Yes, he is just “one” guy, as was John Money just “one” guy. Here, study up on John Money –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zw1EdRKocI&t=974s
If you are impatient, go to 17:30 and listen to the young man whose life was ruined.
Plus. Dr. McHugh is no longer just “one” guy, as more and more doctors are speaking out on this Mengele-level atrocity.
It’s odd that most leftist frogs also belive in the theory of evolution. That being so, it is, not only an absurdity, but a denial of that theory, to claim to engage in activities in opposition to the procreation of the species. That is not rational thinking. It might be as legitimate a lifestyle as is cutting and anorexia.
No law says I have to indulge in someone’s mental illness. I will be happy to ignore them and they can ignore me.
Upstate, BUT you don’t ignore them, and you don’t leave them alone. You take every opportunity to demonize their choice or simply their being because you don’t like it. Conservatives cannot ignore them; they have to stomp them out of existence because they pose a threat to their….fragile religious views. The idea that they exist is so disturbing that they must ensure nobody else recognizes their existence. Right?
Upstate: One of your best.
I cannot imagine the difficulty laid upon our poor elementary English teachers, who must wrestle with “they/them” pronoun usage…
Lin,
Thank you!
Dear Mr. Turley, it is not long until evil turns on itself and casts out the offending member or group. This has been played out over and over again throughout the history of mankind. The greatest example is Judas and Christ. After Judas betrayed Christ, he went back to the Pharisees to say he has “shed innocent blood” and was told, “What is that to us?” Very thankful for the return of GEB to the comment section.