MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell is under fire this week for using the terrorist attack on Bourbon Street in New Orleans to attack the United States Army as a greater threat than those crossing our Southern border. The statement is a vintage example of why many are turning away from legacy or mainstream media, including MSNBC (which has lost nearly half its audience since the election).
O’Donnell has long maintained his show as something of a safe space for the left, including declaring that no Trump supporter would be allowed to speak on his show because they are all “liars,” a label that now applies to a majority of American voters in the last election.
Yet, this statement stands out for many in its unhinged effort to spin the tragedy into a more favorable liberal talking point.
O’Donnell declared:
“The simple fact is, this country has suffered more deadly terrorism at the hands of American-born citizens who are veterans of the United States military than people who have crossed into this country at the southern border. It is very clear from the evidence that if you want to worry about terrorism in this country, the United States Army is a much bigger problem than the southern border.”
There are two curious elements to O’Donnell’s comment. The first is that Army training somehow makes veterans greater threats of terrorism. The military also tends to instill patriotism and public service in its members. Moreover, O’Donnell was referencing the fact that Shamsud-Din Jabbar served in the Army, even though he was largely trained as a human resources and information technology expert. His attack was not a McVeigh-like truck bomb, but the use of the truck itself — an unfortunately common terrorist method that hardly speaks to any Army training.
Second, O’Donnell makes reference to those crossing the Southern Border as opposed to others who have either crossed any border or have entered this country legally. Again, the suggestion is that there is something about military training worthy of special concern. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Zacarias Moussaoui, Richard Colvin Reid, James T. Hodgkinson, Thomas Matthew Crooks, Darrell Edward Brooks Jr., and others may beg to differ.
O’Donnell made specific reference to Timothy McVeigh, the domestic terrorist behind the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995:
“Timothy McVeigh parked a truck outside that building loaded with explosives in an act of homegrown American terrorism. Timothy McVeigh’s hatred of the American government was not tamed in any way by his service in the American military. So, too, with America’s latest terrorist attack in New Orleans on New Year’s Eve, with an American military veteran driving a pickup truck through a crowd to murder 14 people.”
Ok, McVeigh and Jabbar became extremists after they served in the military. However, all terrorists make such a turn — often in a sharp departure from their prior history and upbringing. What does that prove? It is the ultimate example of why correlation is not causation. It is a little better than the Latin corollary cum hoc ergo propter hoc (‘with this, therefore because of this’).
This is not to say that military service cannot produce PTSD and other forms of mental illness related to service. Rather, the effort to portray veterans as a greater threat than those crossing our borders illegally is specious. Indeed, the concern over the lax border controls (including but not exclusively at the Southern Border) is that we simply do not know who many of these individuals are. There are obviously many people (and countries) in the world who want to harm the United States. While they would previously attempt to get through airports and other entries, they are now far more likely to do so across an open border. Terrorists can be rational in their means even if they are irrational in their ideology and criminal acts.
Some on the left have picked up on O’Donnell’s spin, often citing a CBS News analysis of the data showing 26% of mass shooters over six decades have had military service or training. That is higher than the less than 10% of the population that has served. However, again, that is correlation not causation. Notably, that is less than a quarter of the mass shooters. What of the remaining? There are other correlations, such as religion or mental illness, that have equal or greater correlations. Any of them are capable of driving a truck into a crowd of people.
Moreover, the point seems to be that the concern over terrorists crossing the borders is overblown. There has been growing alarm over people on the terrorist watch lists who have been apprehended at the border. However, the great concern in Congress is the number of “gotaways,” which may now be in the millions.
The O’Donnell spin is ultimately more telling in terms of the media than it is the military. In the immediate wake of this horrific attack, the effort was to emphasize that the culprit was a veteran and not an undocumented person. It shows a certain mania in the media. We should be looking for patterns in these attacks. However, false causal connections drawn for political purposes will undermine not advance such efforts.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
Pretty sure the Latin phrase is “post hoc ergo propter hoc”. It’s the genesis of the “post hoc” fallacy statement. Otherwise your column is spot on.
Nice catch Michael.
Actually, JT is right.
“[C]orrelation is not causation” refers to the cum hoc fallacy.
Interesting thank you. the Post Hoc fallacy is one in a long list of the “Logical Fallacies”. I was not aware that there was a cum hoc.
Post hoc is fun–> the rooster’s crow causes the sun to rise. Secure the roosters!
Consider the source: Lawrence O’Donnell… This guy tops the list as a, “threat to democracy!”
Notice that MSNBC didn’t fire him. They obviously agree with him.
Jonathan: Lawrence O’Donnell may have overstated the case that military veterans pose a greater threat of of terrorism than those coming across our southern border. Most who served in the military come back, raise families and lead productive lives. The Q is why 2 who served in the military decided to carry such deadly acts of mass violence in Las Vegas and New Orleans? I’ll save that for another comment. The point here is that you have not made the case that those coming across our southern border are a greater threat of domestic mass violence. Here are some statistics puts the lie to your claim.
On 9/11/2001 19 terrorists flew two planes into the Twin Towers in NY, killing nearly 3,000 people. It was the deadliest attack on American soil. Fifteen of the terrorists were Saudi nationals. They lived here and they learned to fly here. None of these terrorists came across the southern border. A 2017 report by the government’s Accountability Office found that out of 85 deadly extremist incidents which occurred since 9/11 white supremacist groups were responsible for 73%, while radical Islamist extremists were responsible for 27%. In 2020 the Dept. of Homeland Security reported that white supremacists posed the top domestic terrorism threat. That is still the case. The Jan 6, 2021 mass violence at the Capitol was led by the white nationalist followers of DJT–not by the undocumented.
The deadliest attacks have been committed by native born white Americans, e.g., the 2019 mass shooting at the El Paso Walmart, the 2018 antisemitic mass killing of worshippers at the Pittsburg synagogue, the 2022 killing of 10 Black people at the supermarket in Buffalo–just to name a few. And these do not include the deadly anti-abortion violence. Since 1997 there have been 8 murders, 17 attempted murders, 42 bombings, and 186 arson attacks aimed at abortion clinics. These attacks were all carried out by white anti-abortion American activists–not by the undocumented.
The fact is that there is no documented case of anyone coming across our southern border from Mexico, Central America or Haiti who has committed an act of mass violence on US soil. When it comes to “causation” almost all acts of extremist mass violence are home grown by white Americans. That’s the part you and DJT missed in your attempts to blame the undocumented!
The deadliest attacks have been committed by native born white Americans, e.g., the 2019 mass shooting at the El Paso Walmart, the 2018 antisemitic mass killing of worshippers at the Pittsburg synagogue, the 2022 killing of 10 Black people at the supermarket in Buffalo–just to name a few.
Now there’s another flat out lie, from Dennis McIntyre… who poses as though he has researched this, but not one of his examples is close to those by non-whites that would be hard to miss by anybody actually looking:
Omar Mir Seddique Mateen, Afghan, Orlando night club, 49 murdered
Seung-Hui Cho, Korean, Virgina Tech. 32 murdered
What are the chances that the only way Dennis McIntyre can stroke himself to orgasm is if he’s posting lies at the same time?
Kind of like Jeffrey Toobin, that other Democrat mastermind similar to Dennis.
“Fifteen of the terrorists were Saudi nationals.”
They were all *Muslims*. And committed mass murder in the name of *Islam*.
I guess you didn’t feel like mentioning those pesky facts.
Dennis – people are not stupid.
Please name and ACTUAL deadly white supremecist act ?
Even McVeigh did not bomb OKC over “racism”, he made it CLEAR he did so over Ruby Ridge – where FBI agents annihilated Randy Weavers family WITHOUT EVEN A WARRANT.
And over Wacco where the FBI murdered 86 people over minor firearms violations.
I would note that Neither Weaver nor his family, no Koresch and his followers had EVER initiated violence against anyone else.
The Branch Davidians were nuts, as was weaver, but we do not use violence against people merely because we challenge their mental health.
So Dennis – what White Supremecist has engaged in racially motivated violence ?
Where is anything on the scale of 9/11 or Jabbar ?
You correctly note that the 9/11 terrorists came from Saudia Arabia to the US legally – but there is still no argument that their motivation was Islamic Jihad.
I have little doubt that you can find white supremecists who beat up even killed their wives – but that is just typical domestic violence.
There are also violent dealings because many so called whitesupremcists groups are nothing more than poor white Drug dealing gangs indistinguishable from black and hispanic gangs, and every way except much smaller numbers.
Every alleged white supremecist violent act motivated by race has been debunked.
Jusse Smollet lied, the Duke Lacross gang rape was a hoax.
So Dennis what have you got ?
According to the Equal Justice Foundation – which I am a member.
The last lynching in the US was in 1981. There was a bit over 4000 lynching’s in the US in total – that is just slightly more than the deaths att he World trade center.
And only a tiny portion of those lynchings occured after WWII and not all that many more since after WWI.
If you expect us to beleive these government agencies you cite – don’t you think each of us would be able to remember the white supremecist group engaged in mass racial killing a week, a month, a year, a decade ago ?
Or maybe the places you are citing are not trustworthy ?
The 2019 El Passo Walmart shooter was NOT affliated with White supremecist groups, and his manifesto had as much about environmental ism as anything else.
He could and should have been labeled the Green New Deal killer/
Or just accepted as most of these are as nuts people doing crazy things.
The 2018 Tree of Life killer – is another example of a nut. While he posted lost of nuts stuff on various social media sites, he was NOT a member of any White Supremecist groups.
He was again just a sincle person with serious mental health problems, acting delusionally on his own.
Payton S. Gendron is another of the typical mass shooters – a delusional person with derious mental health problems, who as NOT part of some white supremecist groups.
He was a lone nut job.
Your Examples are the same as most of the examples used to claim some huge threat faced from US muslims.
There is a very real problem from mass killings typically by young and seriously mentally disturbed people often male and often white, but not exlusively.
I highly doubt we will find that Jabbar as an example was an Iranian sleeper. Just a broken person – likely a paranoid schitzo phrenic, a loner who glommed on to one or another bit of nonsense.
The gabbard killer fixated over grammer, the Unibomber over tree names,
What connects these people is NOT ideology, or guns – they do not all share the same ideology, and they did not all use guns much less AR-15’s.
What they have in common is mental health problems.
Do some of those in the military develop mental health issues ? Absolutely. As do people not in the milirtary.
Do some people with mental health issues glom onto nuts ideas – islamic jihad, racism, antisemetism, gramar , green nonsense =- absolutely.
But the common thread is insanity.
Actual Terrorists are QUITE SANE.
The 9/11 terrorists were orgnanized funded and on a mission.
The IRA engaged in actual terrorism.
Do we have to be concerned about violence from people with paranoid schitzophrenia ? Absolutely – though they are res[onsbile for most mass killings, paranoid schitzs as a whole are only twice as likely as the norm to engage in violence.
Do we have to be concerned about violence from some illegal immigrants ? Absolutely. But most illegal immigrants do not couse people in gasoline and light them on fire.
Do we have to be concerned about violence from white supremecists – absolutely. These are nearly all criminal drug gangs who kill for all the same reasons other criminal drug gangs do.
But there has been very little actual islamic terrorism in the US – 9/11 being one of very few clear examples.
And the largest source of organized political violence is from the left – as we saw during the BLM riots and the pro-hamas protests.
These were absolutly organized and undeniably political.
Dennis, can I recomend you watch American Pastoral on Netflix.
This movie harkens back to an era of ACTUAL organized domestic terrorism in the US – one that you lived through.
There were 4400 bombings in 1968 carried out by various left wing groups.
This was actual domestic terrorism, and probably the only US historical analog to the IRA bombings or other REAL acts of terrorism.
This does not surprise me. Jon O’Donnell is a Far Leftist who basically hates America and Americans. This is typical of something he would say.
You act as though hating America and Americans is a bad thing. No less authorities as Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and the late Jimmy Carter have stated that the destruction of America and American values are essential to the formation of a global humane-fascist oligarchy to create world peace.
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“[If Comey had indicted Hillary, Comey would have convicted Obama due to his complicity using a pseudonymous email account].”
– Andrew C. McCarthy, National Review https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/01/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-emails-key-decision-not-indict-hillary/
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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“People on the 7th floor to include Director are fired up about this [Trump] server.”
– Bill Priestap
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The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history. The co-conspirators are:
Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,
Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,
Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,
Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,
Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,
Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,
Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney, Lisa O. Monaco, Fani Willis, Alvin Bragg,
Matthew Colangelo, Merrick Garland, Juan Merchan et al.
Bravo Barack! Ye shall remain in hell evermore!
Author, author!
Hey, don’t forget about Sen Mark Warner (D-Va) who, with the Senate Intelligence Committee security chief, leaked the Carter Page FISA surveillance warrant to the NYT. The security chief passed the info to his baby doll who worked for the Times.
Whatever criticisms you may have of Carter he said no such thing and he is NOT in the same world as Biden or Obama.
Since everybody on here supports the U.S. Constitution and many on our U.S. Supreme Court identify as “Originalists” – what about Section 1 of Article VI of the U.S. Constitution?
That makes “treaties” binding federal law in the United States. Not just Reagan’s torture treaty (which we broke) but treaties with real Native Americans (which we also broke).
For chronology for an “Originalist” view, Article VI is part of the original U.S. Constitution. 2nd Amendment gun rights weren’t added until 2 years later in 1791.
Your post is way off topic. But since you raise a false premise, I’ll respond. In Article II’s Treaty Clause, the Constitution, for the first time, addressed international affairs from the vantage of the President’s powers. The clause vests the President, acting with the advice and consent of the Senate, with the authority to make treaties for the United States. The President may unilaterally terminate a treaty if permitted by the treaty’s terms. However, there is no Supreme Court ruling on whether the President has the power to break a treaty without the approval of Congress.
The USC was written to be read by all citizens, not just lawyers and scholars.
The USC is the overarching law in this nation. A treaty may require the POTUS and the Senate to be ratified but common sense says there are constitutional limits.
First, a treaty that allows an unelected body to make changes without following the USC and properly ratifying the changes is invalid. I’m looking at you WHO.
Second, any treaty that attempts to impose an unconstitutional law on Americans is invalid. UN small arms shite, perhaps?
Now, it may seem that if a part of a treaty, one clause or one updated clause, is unconstitutional then only those portions of the treaty should be struck. I take a different view: it doesn’t matter whether the flaw in the process or the contents of a treaty is the result of ignorance, incompetence, or malevolence, if any part of it violates the USC then fck severability with a pointed stick and throw the whole treaty in the trash.
I would bet that most Americans would see this my way.
“The USC is the overarching law in this nation.”
– OldFish
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You are correct!
The singular American failure is the judicial branch, with emphasis on the Supreme Court.
The Constitution and Bill of Rights constitute fundamental law that is written with maximum clarity and is intelligible by all citizens.
The entire communist American welfare state is unconstitutional including, but not limited to, admissions affirmative action, grade-inflation affirmative action, employment affirmative action, quotas, welfare, food stamps, minimum wage, rent control, social services, forced busing, public housing, utility subsidies, CRT, DEI, WIC, SNAP, TANF, HAMP, HARP, TARP, NPR, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Environmental Protection Agency, Agriculture, Education, Labor, Energy, Obamacare, Social Security, Social Security Disability, Social Security Supplemental Income, Medicare, Medicaid, “Fair Housing” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, etc.
Article 1, Section 8, provides Congress the power to tax for ONLY debt, defense, and “general Welfare” – ALL or THE WHOLE WELL PROCEED through governmental provision of security and basic infrastructure – omitting and, thereby, excluding any power to tax for individual Welfare, specific Welfare, particular Welfare, favor or charity. The same Article enumerates and provides Congress the power to regulate ONLY the Value of money, Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian Tribes, and land and naval Forces.
Further, the 5th Amendment right to private property was initially qualified by the Framers and is, therefore, absolute, allowing no further qualification, and allowing ONLY the owner the power to “claim and exercise” dominion over private property.
Government exists, under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, to provide maximal freedom to individuals while government is severely limited and restricted to facilitating that maximal freedom of individuals through the provision of security and infrastructure.
The Necessary and Proper Clause is nothing more than a perfunctory redundancy for the purposes of clarification—a reinforcement of that which was previously codified—and may not be wielded to amend and impose separate acts that do not represent but alter the letter and spirit of the Founders and Framers.
The singular American failure is the judicial branch, with emphasis on the Supreme Court.
Wrong again. The singular American failure is the continuing existence of the Democratic Party even after their progression from simple racism to combining that with neo-communist Soviet “Progressivism”.
Democrats put Marxists like Sotomayor and Jackson on SCOTUS – and then cry that SCOTUS is a failure.
The USSR spy who defected, Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov warned us about fraudulent “constitutionalist” commies like George, back when many of us were well into our work careers. That was before George was having his first Democrat wet dreams about his Democrat heroes like George Wallace and his best friend young Senator Joe Biden.
If George would at least sign an organ donor we could hope he might make some marginal contribution to this great country at some point in his otherwise meaningless failure of a life.
Yuri Bezmenov – A Brief Summary Of Communist Ideological Subversion As Used By American Communists Like George
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJnRmvqTdEQ
FULL INTERVIEW with Yuri Bezmenov: The Four Stages of Ideological Communist Subversion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErKTVdETpw
Old Airborne Dog
Hear hear, hip hip hooray…
The MsNBC Presstitutes are 100% correct. Nidal Malik Hasan is a perfect example proving that the U.S. military is the real enemy. Hasan was a former United States Army major, physician who was transformed into a mass murderer by the U.S. Army. Hasan was convicted of killing 13 people and injuring more than 30 others in the Fort Hood mass shooting on November 5, 2009. The U.S. military is clearly to blame for Hasan’s acts of terrorism.
Prior to the mass murders, an FBI investigation concluded Hasan’s email correspondence with the late Imam Anwar al-Awlaki were related to his authorized professional research and he was not a threat. The FBI further concluded that Hasan was a “good guy” and “was harmless.” The FBI would never lie and has absolute integrity, so we must conclude that the FBI was correct.
So, what could have driven Nidal Malik Hasan to commit his mass murders in the name of Islam, which is a religion of peace? The only logical conclusion is that Nidal Malik Hasan became evil because of the U.S. Army and the U.S. Army drove him to commit mass murders and to yell “Allah Akbar” as he killed each person. Kudos to the MsNBC Presstitutes for educating the public and exposing the truth.
Obviously Hassan being islamic made him commit the mass murders and islamic people should not be admitted into the US military as spies. Conclusion…
The FBI begs to differ with you. And as I stated, the FBI would never lie and has absolute integrity on these matters.
On a recent trip to Arizona, saw a black and white poster of some Apache Indians with war paint on horseback.
The caption under the photo read “America’s original Homeland Security”. Apparently guarding their nation from illegal immigrants!
Wrong. Apache Indians were invaders and colonialists. Do you believe that the Indians just magically appeared in the land of North America and didn’t come from somewhere else?
Spain’s horses? Right…American Winchester? Right…
Let’s remember the American holiday “Thanksgiving” is about illegal immigrants that came here from Europe (our families). Back then the real native Americans fed us so our ancestors didn’t starve to death!
Pray tell, what immigration law did our ancestors break? They could not be illegal unless they broke something legal. Duh!
I guess you aren’t aware that there were English settlers in America 10 years before the English Separatists settled in New England, and the “first Thanksgiving” was a creation of New Englanders and Abraham Lincoln. There had been numerous thanksgivings before then.
You remember nothing. Do you believe that “native Americans” just magically appeared in the land we call North America? Perhaps you believe that the dinosaurs evolved into ‘native Americans’ via the process of transmigration?
It’s going back to the bison. Not to worry. The BILLIONS of bison…
“WHATEVER TENDS TO A DISCORDANT INTERMIXTURE MUST HAVE AN INJURIOUS TENDENCY.”
“The influx of foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities.”
“In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all-important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”
“[Diversity is not a strength; the safety of a republic depends] essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment, on a uniformity of principles and habits, on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and prejudice, and on that love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education and family.”
– Alexander Hamilton
“Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom?”
“If it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here.”
– Thomas Jefferson
That’s funny – the Native American Tribes said the exact same thing over and over again
You’re so stupid ^ watched it on TV huh?
The “Indians” in what is now America were “native” to Asia and were Asiatic nomads.
Being nomadic, the “Indians” had no surveys, no property deeds, no county recorder, no constitution, no laws, and established no nation in North America.
The “Indians” could not have been American because America did not exist until 1789, and the Asiatic nomad presence predated that.
Your presumption is that because they hunted and persisted on a continent, they owned it.
By your logic, the Indians own not only America but also planet Earth and the entire universe simply because they hunt and persist in those loci.
“Native America” is a woefully inaccurate and preposterous title.
But then, of course, you know that.
“[There was no particular need for the U.S. to encourage immigration] except of useful mechanics and some particular descriptions of men or professions.”
“The policy or advantage of its taking place in a body (I mean the settling of them in a body) may be much questioned; for by so doing, they retain the language, habits, and principles (good
or bad) which they bring with them.”
– George Washington
“His attack was not a…truck bomb, but the use of the truck itself…”
– Professor Turley
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Again, mass deaths caused by motorized vehicles.
BAN CARS!
Trains make better bombs. Just ask Palestine, Ohio .
It would probably be somewhat difficult to attack a Las Vegas hotel with a train…
The Las Vegas fellow was most likely inhabited by an evil spirit who took possession of his soul.
Using a toolbox metaphor, in military training the “tools” for solving problems is rifles, artillery and explosives. Military training probably doesn’t focus on empathy, diplomacy and deescalation training like police officers do.
During the Reagan years, many men wore tee shirts that read “Peace Through Superior Firepower”.
Most immigrants probably don’t solve problems that way.
Uh oh, competition’s a coming. Got to love the American way of the free market to readjust to reality.
“Schneider, Hines Talk MAGA-Style ‘The View’ With LA Times Owner”
–By Solange Reyner, Friday, 03 January 2025 08:39 PM EST
“Los Angeles Times owner Patrick Soon-Shiong spoke with actor Rob Schneider and the wife of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., actor Cheryl Hines, last month to discuss creating a talk show to compete with ABC’s “The View,” reported the Status.”
“Status reported that Schneider pitched the idea of creating an all-women talk show that would be the “opposite” of “The View,” known for its political commentary.”
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/patrick-soon-shiong-rob-schneider-cheryl-hines/2025/01/03/id/1193824/
Nah, the view only makes it because it’s so nasty. More nasty isn’t needed.
* Conservatives , you’ve lost. Progressives, you’ve lost. The overriding situation is simply the USA doesn’t exist anymore. It’s a ghost.
Multiculturalism is a failure. Symbiosis of the loser kind.
Don’t go to crowded places anymore. It’s over. These two people suffer from a variety of mental illnesses for which there is no cure. O’Donnell is a true disgrace and no one should have to rehash it on this blog.
Censorship? Sure, censor O’Donnell except hell go underground as a vicious parasite. Can’t win.
The sunshine is still free. Bout it.
In previous years, Turley was a lead critic over the highly inaccurate “watchlisting” system, which he mentions in the article above.
99% of the people on the so-called “terrorist watchlists” have never been convicted for terrorism or have any link to terrorism. These lists likely now include mostly law abiding Trump supporters placed on these lists for legal First Amendment speech and association. Bush’s claim of “worst of the worst” has been declassified and was a completely false statement.
It would be akin to creating “Criminal Watchlists” composed of 99% of people never arrested or convicted of any crime, placed on lists exercising legal First Amendment activity.
After 9/11 Bush Republicans simply punished the wrong people and til this day have never owned up to it. The United States created a nationwide network of “Fusion Centers” after 9/11.
Immediately after Bush’s highly inaccurate watchlisting system, some states were placing LGBT-Americans on terrorist watchlists, African-American college students attending all-black colleges, non-violent environmental activists and white Republican men. None of these groups with criminal convictions or any links to terrorism.
Back then Turley was a brave voice against the Bush Administration’s highly inaccurate watchlisting system.
I have seen the error of my ways. I will try to address my need for attention, use of multiple sock puppets and obviously cluelessness when it comes to basic facts and reality.
About me:
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1. **Fear of Abandonment**: Individuals with BPD often have a heightened sensitivity to perceived rejection or abandonment. Seeking attention can be a way to ensure that they feel connected and valued, reducing their anxiety about being alone.
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So O’Donnell’s point is that Jabar’s military training was key to his very advanced technique of depressing the gas pedal in just the right way so that the pickup truck would gain speed, because no civilian knows how to do that. And the radicalization by ISIS had a minor role at most. Seriously I’ve only seen clips of O’Donnell here and there but in every one he strikes me as probably the stupidest person on TV.
In other news this attack couldn’t have really happened because Jabar was ISIS rather than a white supremacist, and Biden has been telling us for years that the real terrorist threat in this country is from white supremacists, not ISIS. So I guess none of it really happened.
Nah, in the military they’d teach you how to broadside a crowd and careen getting the max kill rate.
According to Vietnam War hero and Bronze Star winner, Karl Marlantes, combat training does indeed rewire the brain in a negative way.
So yes O’Donnell correctly pointed out that military training does make it different. Not an equal comparison.
Marlantes recalled his Vietnam War combat experience, saying your brain is taught to react not to think while in combat. This makes combat training different than a family fleeing violence from other nations.
Trust me. You think in combat. You think precisely where your rounds are going in a firefight, how you are going to rapidly gain access to the deepest hole during incoming, and how you are going to stop the bleeding of your wounded buddy. Oh, you think in combat alright.
Yes, forever life changing. Welcome home, soldier.
O’Donnell keeps pace with Hillary Clinton in picking up the beat illiberal progressives inevitably resort to when they unrepentantly defame a whole number of good and honorable individuals for the bad acts of a very few. For Clinton, it was labeling Trump supporters as a basket of deplorables. For O’Donnell, it is labeling military veterans as home grown terrorists. As to be expected, O’Donnell did not elaborate further. He states what he smugly believes is the problem, i.e., the United States Army, but offers nothing of what to do about it. If securing the southern border is a solution to foreign grown terrorism. What then, Lawrence O’Donnell, is your solution to the United States Army?
Maybe the emphasis on DEI has had a negative effect on our military personnel.