As lawyers, we often take a series of steps to protect the interests of our clients when it becomes necessary to sever or end representation. The dropping of a client can have a damaging impact on the reputation or standing of a client. That is why it was surprising to see Mark Lemley, a Stanford law professor publicly denounce Mark Zuckerberg as part of social media tirade. It is a deeply concerning lesson for students at a law school already rocked by prior controversies over intolerance for opposing viewpoints.
When we take on a client, we are closely identified with their interests and their case. That creates a deep professional obligation not to use that relationship for our own benefit against the interests of our client. Thus, a lawyer cannot sever an unpopular criminal defendant by denouncing him as morally reprehensible.
We continue to shoulder that obligation even after we end our representations. (I have had to sever clients in the past and avoided any public statement on the reasons or critical comments tied to the cases).
Professor Lemley did not represent Zuckerberg in a criminal matter. However, he was counsel in the high-profile representation of Meta in 2023 after comedian Sarah Silverman and other authors sued the company for alleged copyright violations.
After Zuckerberg recently pledged to restore free speech protections on Meta, many on the left went positively berserk.
This week, Lemley, a partner at the law firm Lex Lumina, decided that he was not content with simply severing the representation without fanfare or embarrassment to his clients. Instead, he decided to publish a tirade on LinkedIn to denounce Zuckerberg’s “descent into toxic masculinity and Neo-Nazi madness.”
He declared “While I think they are on the right side in the generative AI copyright dispute in which I represented them, and I hope they win, I cannot in good conscience serve as their lawyer any longer.” He further declared that he deactivated his Threads account because he did not want to “support a Twitter-like site run by a Musk wannabe.”
Rather than expressing concern over the trashing of a former client, Rhett Millsaps, managing partner of Lex Lumina, stated, “Money can’t buy everyone. We’re proud to be a firm that doesn’t sell out our values. Sadly, it seems this is becoming a rarer and rarer quality in America today.”
The incident raises a question that can be uncertain and difficult for many lawyers. I do not believe that Professor Lemley should be forced into a life of monastic silence over Meta policies unrelated to his litigation. Zuckerberg is a public figure and Lemley often engages in public commentary.
What concerns me is the nexus drawn by both Lemley and Lex Lumina to their representation of Zuckerberg to magnify their message of opposition. They could have simply severed representations without comment while Lemley could have continued his commentary in opposition to the new free speech policies. Frankly, while Professor Lemley is a respected and accomplished academic, it is doubtful that such criticism would have generated significant media attention. It was the connection to severing representation that amplified the message and caused the criticism to go viral.
Instead, the media is aflame with stories of how even Zuckerberg’s own lawyer and law firm cannot abide him. That was the obvious result of the public statements made by Lemley and the firm in demonizing their former client and citing their severance as morally compelled by his policies.
This can clearly be a gray area for many lawyers. The rules expressly prevent a lawyer from representing a client in an adverse case against a prior client or using information derived from the prior case. That is not the case here. Indeed, Professor Lemley appears to stand by the merits of the earlier case. The question is whether lawyers should use their prior representation as a type of cudgel in a public denunciation of a former client, using their prior representation to elevate their own voices.
None of this sits well with me, but I may be “old school” on such professional conduct issues. I would feel the same way if a lawyer attacked an anti-free speech figure like Hillary Clinton by emphasizing their prior representation. Once again, I am not suggesting that representation bars lawyers from criticizing former, high-profile clients. Professor Lemley has free speech rights and strong opinions in this area. However, the use of the severance or termination of representation as part of that criticism is deeply problematic in my view.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
Re: Good Democrats
Yes, they exist. BUT, you can’t vote for Democrats, if you are a good Democrat, because once in power, those elected Democrats will tow the Leftist, Bad-Democrat line. You wanna example???
There was a vote in Congress to keep boys out of girl’s sports at the school level. Title IX. Know how many Democrats voted for it? Two. The rest didn’t. It passed, and it will pass the Senate. I hope. But this is what you get when you vote for Democrats.
Bonus: J H Kustler, a liberal Democrat, had an excellent review of Biden, today. An excerpt:
You can expect very shortly, probably only a matter of weeks, to see a raft of news stories, soon-to-be big-money books, revealing the utter sustained chaos that churned behind the pathetic, half-animate figure pretending to be “chief executive” of the US government lo these dismal four years past. You will learn who was pulling his strings day-to-day since 1/20/21, probably a gang of 25-year-old, ambitious, Cluster-B staffers too disorganized to even amount to a cabal — but sufficiently united in their mission to destroy the country by any means necessary.
The four years of “Joe Biden’s” term-in-office that followed have induced the most severe disordering of the collective American mind in our history, lost in a fog of perfidious mendacity unmatched in scope by the Civil War, or any other national crisis. “Joe Biden’s” government went to war against the people of this land, at the same time it sold-out our vital national interests to the CCP, the WEF, the WHO, and other parties seeking our nation’s destruction. For years, we have been forced to swallow absurdities such as unsafe and ineffective vaccines, drag queens in the grade schools, borders wide-open to saboteurs (declared to be “secure”), and a stupid war against Russia that has destroyed the sad-sack nation of Ukraine.
“Joe Biden” has been a disaster and an embarrassment, easily the most damaging character to ever creep onto the US political scene. His one talent was for fakery. Even with sclerosis eating through his brain, he was able to go through the motions of faking it, reading his script off the teleprompter — though he was no longer up to casual questions in a news conference setting. The slime trail of crimes he leaves behind would be easy to follow by law enforcement officials actually interested in crime. He’s likely to pardon himself at the last moment, and pardon a long roster of federal officials who have committed crimes with and behind him. One way or another, they are going to be found out, even if many manage to evade prosecution. But at least we are going to learn a lot more about who was pulling “Joe’s” strings, and exactly what they did, and how — including the trick of making the news media hostage to their crimes.
So, adios, “Joe Biden,” you miserable, treasonous b@stard. History will record you as the one president so far who was consciously a villain outright, in true self-knowledge of his own wickedness. You left your country a wreck in every dimension: in national security, national bankruptcy, national pride, and national confidence. Go back to Delaware and sit in the dim light of your room with the curtains drawn so you won’t have to hear about the gruesome discoveries to come of what you left behind. And when the day arrives for your funeral, be advised that it will not be much better than your campaign stop in Darby, PA, in June 2020, when you maundered pointlessly to a nearly empty room. . . before going out for ice cream with your secret service detail.
https://www.kunstler.com/p/joe-biden-an-assessment
Floyd-definitely agree. I want to see those evaluations by Joe’s so called physician. The outgoing president had mental challenges prior to his election and they only got worse. That physician should be investigated and made to testify in defense of his findings before congress and a licensing board.
GEB – did you see this? So horrible that I could not watch the whole video – just pitiful!
“Money can’t buy everyone. We’re proud to be a firm that doesn’t sell out our values. Sadly, it seems this is becoming a rarer and rarer quality in America today.”
*********************
Oh please, it’s what lawyers do. It’s not about representing OUR values. It’s about representing YOUR CLIENT’S values. John Adams didn’t like the British soldiers one bit when he represented them in the Boston Massacre. He won — and bigly –and it was no reflection on his feelings about the Brit oppressors; it was a reflection on the principles of lawyers and what they do. I’d no more hire this woke law firm than I would hire a fox to represent the chickens. At least the barnyard crowd have the excuse of being dumb animals devoid of contemplative ethics, but lawyers … then again … some are obviously dumb animals, too.
Mespo– agreed, 100%. If firms like his were “rarer”, the legal profession would be better off.
Jonathan: I read the story about attorney Mark Lemley severing ties with Mark Zuckerberg. As you mention Lemley represented Zuckerberg in a civil matter, not a criminal case, so he was not constrained by ethical or legal obligations to continue to provide representation.
I think you overstate the case that “many on the left went positively berserk” when Zuckerberg decided to cave and decided, like Elon Musk, that his platforms should be a cesspool of all sorts of hate speech, neo-Nazi propaganda, anti-LGBTQ+ and anti-trans screeds. Zuckerberg has become just another DJT lapdog. Criticisms of Zuckerberg’s new policies is not going “berserk”.
Lemley and his firm are taking a principled “free speech” position against Musk and Zuckerberg. I don’t think that “problematic”.
Dennis: Oy vey! What a morning I have had! Tennessee, the stray kitten that I took in last week, had worms. I treated her yesterday, but what a poopy cat! I had to dunk her in Dawn again this morning. Gee, but getting dried poop out of a kitten’s fur is not fun. I don’t know why I thought about runny poop when I read your comment??? Anyway, I have to move firewood into the house from the porch, so my outside walker can go back into its spot. I use it to grab hold on to when I go out the door, so I won’t fall on my a$$. I will wait until it is a bit warmer outside.
Floyd, you said it’s birthday time, just curious as to how many you is? If you’re officially part of the OFC!
I will be 71 years old.
Senile and delusional beyond his years.
Then another racist person will have left us. That means there is still time to stop being misguided and hateful. Then another person that changed their mentality will have left us, and we will be sad, if that is the case.
Congratulations! You are definitely an official member of the OFC! May you have many more and may your cats be fat and flealess! I have two inside and two outside and an opossum that stops by on occasion. All Gods wonders, all you have to do is look.
Just admit you support European style hate speech laws. I would respect you more if you did.
Why was censorship in Nazi Germany and USSR considered bad but commendable and necessary in the West?
I don’t expect an answer, you’ll just call me a ‘nazi’.
antonio
” We’re proud to be a firm that doesn’t sell out our values. “
But he did sell out his values to left-wing ideology. They can criticize the right all they wish, even Zuckerberg, but a professional must have higher values. He used his voice and Zuckerberg’s termination as a weapon. Turley is right. That is not how to handle an obligation afforded him by his license to practice law.
Justice would be for his right-wing physician to do the best surgery he could but leave him on the table without closing him up. That would not and should not be a response by any physician who also owes the privilege of his licensure.
A law enforcement website has released mugshots of the looters – the ones who were actually arrested and charged – intercepted while looting the homes of the White Rich And Famous in Santa Monica, Pacific Palisades, etc. after they fled their homes due to approaching fires.
Dozens Arrested for Looting in Fire-Stricken California Communities
https://www.formerlawman.com/2025/01/dozens-arrested-for-looting-in-fire-stricken-california-communities/
There seems to be a demographic tend in California criminality evident.
No references to what percentage are also already criminal Illegal Alien Guest Democrat Voters – California shields Illegal Aliens from being publicly identified as such.
Old Airborne Dog
“Screaming Lil Bow Wow,” what were your MOS, Awards, Campaign, and Theater, or is yours stolen valor “Tampon Tim” style?
Anonymous Democrat pedophile, cut like the Michelin Man Airsoft Gravy Seal Sniper: tell everybody what YOURS were while you fought the Airsoft Wars with the Chairborne Airsoft Commando in your Mom’s back yard during the Airsoft Wars.
Any chance you’ll ever actually give an example taken from my posts of the day to prove this alleged stolen valor you mewl about every single day, Anonymous Democrat Gun Bunny?
Any chance you’ll ever decide to chose a username to post these insinuations under, Airsoft War Hero?
Or is the risk to great of your probation officer discovering you’re using the internet in violation of your terms of work release after luring children to “help me find my lost kitten” too great?
Old Airborne Dog
The Oval Office House Plant Formerly Known As President Big Guy is spending the last few days of his Reign Of Terror And Error trying to set more Presidential records now that he has a solid lock on the title of Worst President Ever.
Joe Biden Sets Presidential Record by Commuting An Additional 2,500 Drug Offender Sentences
https://apnews.com/article/biden-commutes-2500-nonviolent-drug-offenders-83174cd0602a0bf5d491aa60184f3568
The reason? Biden claimed that upon reviewing their case files in his last days in office, he determined these 2,500 sentences were excessive and often racist.
Anyone who believes Biden reviewed thousands of sentences before determining these 2,500 deserved clemency probably also believes that Edward Snowden and Julian Assange read through every single classified document they stole to ensure no source would be murdered before releasing them for the ChiComs, North Koreans, Putin, etc to pour through.
Obama’s Third Term and it’s intent to destroy America isn’t over yet.
Old Airborne Dog
Rhett Millsaps, managing partner of Lex Lumina, commended Lemley’s decision, stating, Money can’t buy everyone. We’re proud to be a law firm focused on Constitutional issues that doesn’t sell out our professional ethics and values. Sadly, it seems this is becoming a rarer and rarer quality in America today.
“We’re proud to be a firm that doesn’t sell out our values”. Their values include publicly trashing and demeaning a former client? At least give them partial credit for being honest.
The Big Guy Redux:An Embarrassment For Every Month: The Worst Blunders, Failures, And Flops Of Biden’s Final Year
https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/17/an-embarrassment-for-every-month-the-worst-blunders-failures-and-flops-of-bidens-final-year/
January: Fighting to Not Enforce the Border
February: ‘An Elderly Man with a Poor Memory’
March: A Botched Nod to Laken Riley … and an Apology to Her Murderer
April: Declaring Easter Sunday ‘Transgender Day’
May: Trump Convicted, Rule of Law Hardest Hit
June: That Debate
July: A Dropout and a Shootout
August: Busted Taking Credit for 800,000 Imaginary Jobs
September: N.C. Hurricane Victims Left for Dead
October: Dismissing Half the Country as ‘Garbage’
November: Getting Dumped by the American People
December: A ‘Get Out of Jail Free, Forever’ Card for Hunter
Professor Turley is never going to run out of his fellow Democrat lawyers whose absence of professional ethics, replaced by political hatreds, and their equally biased and unethical bar associations who allow that from their members will provide him with an unending source of topics for his columns.
Old Airborne Dog
I don’t see the controversy. Trump and his followers are essentially Nazi 2.0.
You are simply an anonymous troll. There is zero evidence that Trump’s team is planning to abrogate any of the Bill of Rights. Quite the opposite.
Only a left wing nut can make so many errors in so few words.
First – even Nazi’s are entitled to legal representation.
Lawyers usually have the freedom to choose their own clients,
but having chosen a client you are committed to represent them.
In the rare instances in which you can no longer represent a client – and a disagreement over their values is never a reason for which you can leave an existing client,
when you are allowed to leave you STILL have a duty to that client. you can not even truthfully disparage the client.
violations of any of the above are very serious ethical errors for lawyers,
The professor in question is according to turley respected and competent – yet his actions are unethical and require disbarment.
And all of the above presumes that “Trump and his followers are Nazi 2.0”
Which would only be true if Nazi 2.0 rejected pretty much everything that it means to be a Nazi.
It is not Trump or his supporters using government power to punish political opponents.
It is not Trump and his followers using government to infiltrate churches and spy on them.
It is not Trump and his followers using government to censor views they disagree with.
Left wing nuts oppose Trump because he seeks to
Cut government spending.,
Reduce government regulation.
Reduce taxes,
Reduce government censorship.
Reduce government restrictions on energy and other intrusions into peoples private lives.
Reduce government intrusion into religion
Reduce government intrusion into the right to defend yourself.
Reduce war globally, and especially reduce sacrificing the blood of americans for the interests of other countries
Reduce government intrusion into sex and gender.
This is from Trump’s platform – Agenda 47
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform
Which of these are values or polices that are shared by the Nazi’s ?
Fascism is defined as:
“Everything in the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. ”
That is pretty much the opposite of what Trump seeks.
Trump is vigorously anti-socialist.
Nazi’s are socialists.
“Socialism is the ideology of the future.”
“The bourgeoisie has to yield to the working class … Whatever is about to fall should be pushed. We are all soldiers of the revolution. We want the workers’ victory over filthy lucre. That is socialism.”
“We are socialists, because we see in socialism, that means, in the fateful dependence of all folk comrades upon each other”
“We are not a charitable institution but a Party of revolutionary socialists.”
“Capitalism assumes unbearable forms at the moment when the personal purposes that it serves run contrary to the interest of the overall folk. It then proceeds from things and not from people. Money is then the axis around which everything revolves. It is the reverse with socialism. The socialist worldview begins with the folk and then goes over to things. Things are made subservient to the folk; the socialist puts the folk above everything, and things are only means to an end.”
“To be a socialist means to let the ego serve the neighbour, to sacrifice the self for the whole. In its deepest sense socialism equals service.”
These are just a small portions of quotes from Goebbells repeatedly and proudly claiming that the Nazi’s are the true path of socialism.
If you need I can add quotes from Hitler or Mousolini
Or the platform and accomplishment of the Nazi’s under Hitler.
Regardless – fascists are socialists, Nazi’s are socialists.
Trump and his supporters are anti-socialists.
So unless Nazi 2.0 means a rejection of all the core values of Nazi’s then No Trump is not Nazi 2.0
Further anyone who thinks that is obviously clueless about Nazi’s.
And clueless about the real world.
Anonymous is DUMFCK NUMBER 1
The ‘Kids’ are smart, They know a Fake, a Front, a Facade. Maybe not immediately but eventually they leave the scene because it’s not “Kool” anymore to be there.
Facebook is just that, It’s yesterday, the Kids only use it to keep in touch with Grand Ma so they can squeeze a couple of Bucks out of her, maybe keep their stake in an Inheritance, and in general just to pacify the the Parents with a charming status quo.
The Stock is Bloated and way over valued (NASDAQ: META ~ 614.45 USD Today), Zuckerberg knows the game is over and the Company has gone from Cash Cow > to > Dog, But he’s going to ride it out, it’s all he’s got. So – So what.
As for Lemley and Lex Lumina, they got their share of Billable Hours at a very tasty rate $, and as obvious now, even they know the Shows over.
Facebook is just another Intel Sellout now – R.I.P.
I am not a big fan of Zuckerberg but “toxic masculinity and Neo-Nazi” is not something that would enter my mind if I had to describe him. Based off the Twitter files it appeared a number of Twitter employees were not comfortable with the pressure coming from the Biden admin. The same appears to be true with Facebook and Zuckerberg. Looks more like Zuckerberg got out from under the Biden admin thumb, wanted out of the censorship agenda and moved to the X like paradigm. I’d call that just being smart.
I believe what professor Turley is describing is professionalism. Or the lack there of in this case. But it seems in this day and age it is okay to abandon professionalism if it feeds into their TDS.
I am not a big fan of Zuckerberg but “toxic masculinity and Neo-Nazi” is not something that would enter my mind
Right? Gigi the troll has bigger tεsτicιεs than Zuck.
😜
Conyo
“[T]he law firm Lex Lumina, [. . .] severing the representation [. . .] publish a tirade . . .”
That should be good for business.
Let’s see. Should I hire a law firm that might drop me in the middle of a case, then publicly pillory me, while trying to shame me as a “Nazi”?
Turley will always support right wing extremist positions, especially those promoting bigotry, violence and hate toward minority groups that he despises. Its unfortunate, but it is certainly keeping in character for Turley and his followers – hate and greed driven extremists, completely devoid of honesty, integrity, kindness, compassion, empathy or decency. There was a time when Turley pretended to be an objective, thoughtful, and fair minded but as the U.S. embraces MAGA extremism, Turley has shown who he really is, just another right wing extremist who has embraced the rabidly hate driven racist, and rabidly anti-LGBTQ philosophy that so motivates all U.S. conservatives.
How is it possible to be so delusional?
“How is it possible to be so delusional?”
Become a Democrat??? Watch MSNBC all the time??? Watch The View??? Be really, really afraid of admitting that you were wrong??? Grow up in a family that taught you Republicans were evil???
Anonymous @ 9:42am.
What are you even talking about?! An individual is the smallest minority. Bigotry is what we see every day at universities and in marches screaming “from the river to the sea!”
You couldn’t even give solid examples of the bile you are spewing if you tried.
At the very least I hope you’re paid well to cut and paste such garbage on the internet.
If you believe what you wrote, you waste your time reading his column and then bloviating in the comments.
Traditional Democrats want you woke leftist extremists off their side and out of their party. Bill Maher, James Carville and many other traditional Democrats think you are stupid, crazy and toxic. Their words.
@Upstate… Bill Maher and James Carville and their foul lying mouths would have been rejected by those ‘traditional Democrats’, long before those two scrotes had Trump to use as their excuse for why they are what they are.
Scoop Jackson democrats? JFK?
The last remaining traditional Democrat was Jim Webb who ran against Hillary Clinton in the 2016 primary. The traditional Democrat who warned his party that woke, DEI, and Obama’s Marxism and racist division would harm both the country and eventually the party.
Jim Webb was swiftly kicked to the curb for that. The DNC was rocking Bernie ‘The Commie’ Sanders instead. He would have beaten Clinton for the nomination if Obama hadn’t decided that Sanders was just a bridge to far at that moment in history.
There may be a surviving traditional Democrat with traditional Democrat values still alive out in the wild, but they haven’t been seen in years.
The closest Democrats can come is purely transactional Democrats like Joe Manchin. They hold their finger up in the political wiind, calculate the time until they must run for reelection, do a survey of their state’s voters, and then vote accordingly.
Old Airborne Dog
Blue Dog Dems may be afraid to surface for fear of left-wing fascists. They need strong leadership, but at this point the Party seems to be flailing. They should get a grip. The mid-terms are coming…
Turley will always support right wing extremist positions, especially those promoting bigotry, violence and hate toward minority groups that he despises.
Here we have yet another violent commie neo-Nazi using channeling its guilt as a medium for confession.
Zuckerberg is simply a coward. He puts his wet finger in the wind and sides with whichever faction he perceives to be gaining power. So, he sided with the Democrats in 2020 and now sides with Trump. After all, he has a monopoly business to protect. He wouldn’t want anything to happen to it, would he?
When The Left foams at the mouth at Zuckerberg, they are merely signaling to him that they will be coming back into power one day, and he shouldn’t get too comfortable in the Trump camp. Even unprofessional idiots like this lawyer have their uses.
There has been no time in history when the people supporting censoring free speech were the good guys.
I expect some s@@tlib to call me a ‘nazi’ too for the above statement.
antonio
Wrong, FDR and Woodrow Wilson, John Adams were the good guys and look what they did to the 1st amendment.
Oh, you’re a nazi too because of the above statement.
What makes the racist Wilson one of the “good guys”? Is it because that is what your teachers told you?
Knowing you lack a brain, why don’t you determine why Wilson is a good-guy. And report back.
Wilsonmis a racist, is that because your teachers told you so?
Wilsonmis a racist, is that because your teachers told you so?
Did Democrat Kluxxers like Senator Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd and “No Jungle Bunnies In My Kids’ Schools” Joe Biden instruct you that Warren Wilson segregating the military and chasing black Americans out of the civil service wasn’t racist?
Asking for Anonymous Democrats who aren’t racists from the racist Wilson/FDR/Biden wing of our DNC.
Wilson is the moron that signed into law the Federal Reserve Act, an Act he reportedly regretted stating he believed he had made a horrible mistake. Completely unacceptable.
Ah, the genius of the lowbrow commeneters, again proving stupidity is a virtue. The subject is censorship, it writes about the FRA.
.
Again, you’re the one claiming Woodrow Wilson was a “good guy”. I merely interjected an argument as to why in my opinion, he is not. A truly disconnected inability evidencing your very limited cognitive abilities and yet more of your obsessive compulsive behavior. Did you get the can of mackerel from Floyd Mr. Einstein?
Idiots that have no knowledge of history are claiming that Wilson was a good guy??? Simplistic, dumb and wrong! But hey, they think Wilson is Owen Wilson and I am picking on one of their Hollywood idols.
So Antonio, we understand that you, like Jonathan Turley support and encourage hate speech and violence toward minority groups. So why don’t you tell us your full (real) name and location so that we can return the favor and start targeting you and your probably equally racist, and rabidly anti-LGBTQ family with hate and calls for violence? Turn about is fair play isn’t it? If you have children, how about we put their faces on a target and encouraged violence against them, that would be a-okay with you, wouldn’t it? After all you. like Turley support all kinds of hate speech and calls for violence, correct?
Watching your TDS consume you as you continue to spiral downward in your delusions and madness makes me smile. You are the kind of people traditional Democrats want out of their party.
The good professor supports free speech and condemns violence. And you know it.
Do you think it realizes Woodrow Wilson derived and passed the Espionage Act, pursuing and prosecuting reporters that he believed to have gathered information that could damage National Defense? Yeah, Wilson was all about preserving freedom of the press!
So Antonio, we understand that you, like Jonathan Turley support and encourage hate speech and violence toward minority groups.
We do understand that you are one of the prominent Democrat neo-Nazis from the New Hitler Youth Wing who have been rioting and attacking Jewish students on college campuses for well over a year.
Try real confession, rather than channeling your guilt and hatred in hopes it is an acceptable form of confession.
Why are you here, again?
Another step in the losing of all respect and/or admiration for the so-called credentialed class. The term expert is now more watered down than a drink in a tourist trap bar at 2:00AM.
I think this Professor is more likely an adherent to the Lex Luthor theory of legal representation than Lex Lumina. I find his statements not only unethical but bordering on slander / libel.
Drama Queen may be more descriptive than we usually associate with this term.
Possibly he was trying to make sure his statements were loud enough to drown out all the screaming about the California Fires and to be noted.
In my profession of medicine we also have to sometimes severe relationships with patients. It is usually rare and most of the time, in my practice, it came down to a patient cursing or acting out in front of my female employees. With me, no big deal, but I would not tolerate that attitude with my employees. You might despise the patient you terminated but you had a prescribed method to follow with waiting 30 days so they could get another physician or you supplied them with names. No public condemnations, even if they deserved it, because it would likely by a HIPPA violation.
In medical malpractice lawsuits, I have seen attorneys terminate a client at the end of my deposition because, I think he had tried to convince their client that they had no case and my deposition proved it. However it was very professional, without disharmony, raised voices or argument. In fact it was so quiet I missed that it had happened until my attorney told me we were done and ushered me out of the room whispering “say nothing”, and as we left the building she broke into a huge smile and said “he just quit and in a manner that no other attorney will even touch the case”. And she was right. It had all the drama of someone saying, “I’m going to get a cup of coffee”.
The other aspect is the total lack of awareness of this attorney and the side he has taken. He basically trashes the 1st amendment by condemning a man who has realized he was wrong to suppress speech and now wishes to follow the enlightened path. These actions of his are the total antithesis of the actions of every attorney I have ever known or worked with whether they were representing me or suing me. All were upstanding professionals.
One particular pair off attorneys tried to destroy my testimony in an occupational lung disease case but then later told their client, in another case, to use me as their defense witness. So I found myself on the other side of that one. But totally professional.
Unlike this so called professor.
“I find his statements not only unethical but bordering on slander / libel.” You sir, are a pompous ass.
Ah Yes. Troll # 1. Talk about pomposity, you are exhibit # 1 for that affliction.
GEB
You sir, are a pompous ass.
And speaking of asses, you would be a trophy for any proctologist wanting a walking, talking, posting one on public display.
If only they could figure out how to excise your mouth from your ass to start with.
Somebody struck a nerve, geb’s going anon ….
Anonymous 11:38 am is not me. Some other Anonymous went after Anonymous 9:54 am. I still sign my comments GEB
Your post reminded me of the Nigerian pediatrician who dropped patients in Florida because their mother would not tell him whether she kept a gun in their house. This was framed as a free speech case — the doctor’s right to ask outweighed the patients’ guardian’s right to privacy.
(For interest, half of Nigeria’s physicians practice outside the country, the majority in the US and UK.)
Turley can claims achievements, honors and degrees. A prfessorship too. What’s Geb’s claim to fame?
As previously stated, You sir, are obviously a know-nothing pompus ass.
Turley said, “After Zuckerberg recently pledged to restore free speech protections on Meta, many on the left went positively berserk.”
I disagree. The Left doesn’t GO berserk, the Left IS berserk – all the time – 24/7. Most are simply crazy people, and others purely evil. They are fine with castrating kids, and they are dogmatic in the face of all evidence. Their DEI policies are partly to blame for the LA fires, and it is questionable whether they are incompetent or whether they want to see it all burned. They are chugging full of hate.
ber·serk
/bərˈsərk/
adjective
out of control with anger or excitement; wild or frenzied.
“after she left him, he went berserk, throwing things around the apartment”
Similar:
mad
crazy
insane
out of one’s mind
hysterical
beside oneself
frenzied
crazed
demented
maniacal
manic
frantic
wound up
worked up
raving
wild
enraged
raging
out of control
uncontrollable
amok
on the rampage
off one’s head
up the wall
through the roof
off the deep end
ape
bananas
bonkers
mental
nutty
nuts
bats
hyper
spare
crackers
barmy
batty
postal
crook
berko
View 1 vulgar slang word [apesh!t]
Another garbage comment.
Anonymous 9:05 AM-Words from the Dung Beetle. Nothing to see here
GEB,
The Dung Beetle is a better creature then the anonymorn. The Dung Beetle contributes to the environment and is useful. The anonymoron on the other hand contributes nothing useful and is toxic.
Upstate Farmer-Point taken but useful or not I still would prefer not to be a dung beetle. Anonymous the stupid or toxic is still a dung beetle who rises up periodically and screeches his despair and toxicity and then has an another pile of dung dropped on him.
Floyd,
Well said.
Yesterday I replied to the batty Gigi about how traditional, sane and normal Democrats do not want the woke leftists on their side or in their party. I pointed out how Bill Maher, James Carville, and other long time DNC Democrats have called the woke leftist part of the Democrat party as stupid and crazy. Some even calling them toxic. Many of these Democrats want to return to the traditional JFK Democrat party. They want to give the woke leftists the boot. Funny thing is, those traditional Democrats have a lot more in common with MAGA Republicans than woke leftists. We all agree we can define what a woman is, biological males should not be in women’s sports, pornography should not be in elementary school libraries, and mutilating children is wrong. Those are just some of the woke leftist garbage traditional Democrats want out of their party. Cannot blame them!
UpstateFarmer-I agree. Many friends who are old style liberals with intellect and an ability to discuss with English in the best sense of the language and who have salient and thoughtful points. They are still out there. God bless them.
GEB,
My sister is a member of her local Democrat party chapter. Of them, the majority do not support the woke agenda and think it is hurting their party. She did have two people tell her, her thinking was “wrong.”
The JFK party is a myth. Henry Wallace and his ilk pushed the Dems to socialism in the FDR administration and never gave up on that goal. Biden fell for all the progressive pieties and look where we are.
There are good people in the Democrat party, who don’t believe all the trans stuff, and the DEI crap, and the race narrative BUT – they keep voting for Democrats.
To me, that is like somebody voting for the Nazi Party, even though they hate the anti-semitic stuff ,because they like the roads and the social programs,
Floyd-well said in a sort of muted way.