Davidson College officials have launched an investigation into a student, Cynthia Huang, the president of Davidson College’s chapter of Young Americans for Freedom. In two separate incidents, Huang spoke out against Palestinian and transgender claims. In a disciplinary letter, Mak Tompkins, Davidson’s director of student rights and responsibilities, wrote that she was accused of spreading “misinformation” that could foster Islamophobia and transphobia.
Huang has previously received death threats from peers for criticizing abortion, according to the site College Fix. However, Davidson is investigating her because she distributed a pamphlet last fall titled “Five Myths About Israel Perpetrated by the Pro-Hamas Left” that argued that Palestinians are not a distinct people and rejected the premise of a Palestinian state. She was also faulted for social media comments by YAF about Olympic boxer Imane Khelif, whose gender was controversial during the 2024 Olympics.
Huang has refused to yield and cited, in an op-ed, incidents of being threatened and harassed for her conservative views on the liberal campus.
Her account is all too familiar for many of us in higher education. As I discuss in my book, “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage,” administrators are often on a hair-trigger when it comes to conservative speech while turning a blind eye to inflammatory rhetoric.
I have defended faculty who have made an array of disturbing comments on “detonating white people,” denouncing police, calling for Republicans to suffer, strangling police officers, celebrating the death of conservatives, calling for the killing of Trump supporters, supporting the murder of conservative protesters and other outrageous statements.
Yet, liberal professors and students tend to enjoy the full protection of academic freedom and free speech. Indeed, at the University of California campus, professors actually rallied around a professor who physically assaulted pro-life advocates and tore down their display.
The support enjoyed by faculty on the far left is in sharp contrast to the treatment given faculty with moderate, conservative or libertarian views. Anyone who raises such dissenting views is immediately set upon by a mob demanding their investigation or termination. Conservatives and libertarians understand that they have no cushion or protection in any controversy, even if it involves a single, later deleted tweet.
One such campaign led to a truly tragic outcome with criminology professor Mike Adams at the University of North Carolina (Wilmington). Adams was a conservative faculty member with controversial writings who had to go to court to stop prior efforts to remove him. He then tweeted a condemnation of North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper for his pandemic rules, tweeting that he had dined with six men at a six-seat table and “felt like a free man who was not living in the slave state of North Carolina” before adding: “Massa Cooper, let my people go.” It was a stupid and offensive tweet. However, we have seen extreme comments on the left — including calls to gas or kill or torture conservatives — be tolerated or even celebrated at universities.
Celebrities, faculty, and students demanded that Adams be fired. After weeks of public pummeling, Adams relented and took a settlement to resign. He then killed himself a few days before his final day as a professor.
I do not see anything in the Huang material that is not protected speech. The rationale that it is “misinformation” is revealing in that sense. Davidson is objecting to Huang’s views as simply wrong, enforcing a familiar orthodoxy in policing what administrators deem to be information or misinformation.
Higher education is based on the free flow of ideas, including those that challenge orthodoxy. Some of the greatest social and scientific breakthroughs came only after intellectuals were declared heretics or charlatans. Even if Huang escapes punishment, she will be subjected to an investigation as a chilling message to others who may not want to face such public scrutiny or controversy.
Davidson should instead investigate the handling of this matter and expressly bar the use of disinformation and misinformation as the basis for such disciplinary actions.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
We need to burn them down – at least figuratively – and start again. (How’s that for shouting “Fire” in a crowded ivy-covered cesspool). The Red Guard Academics have unleashed a reign of terror on their students and their First Amendment Rights. Why anyone would send these indoctrination centers anything is beyond me. I say criminalize deprivations of free speech by institutions taking federal money, loans or grants. Yep just vaporize them into the ether.
consider Porter v. Board of Trustees of North Carolina State University a tenured faculty memer fired for “lack of collegiality”-disagreeing with politically-driven demands for “DEI” mandates in hiring and promotional decisions, even when student class evaluations are obtained. The federal district court dismissed Porter’s case, accepting the university’s argument that his removal stemmed from a “lack of collegiality” rather than his specific viewpoints. The court ruled his speech was tied to his job duties, thus unprotected under the Supreme Court’s Garcetti v. Ceballos (2006) precedent, which limits public employees’ First Amendment rights when speaking as part of official duties.
Appeal to the Fourth Circuit (2023): Porter appealed to the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. On July 6, 2023, a divided 2-1 panel upheld the district court’s dismissal:
Majority Opinion (Judges Stephanie Thacker and James Wynn): They ruled that Porter’s speech in the meeting and email was internal job-related commentary, not protected public speech under Pickering v. Board of Education (1968). For the blog post, they found no clear causal link to his removal 10 months later, emphasizing his “uncollegial” behavior (e.g., profanity, dismissive tone) as the basis for discipline, not the content of his views.
Dissent (Judge Julius Richardson): Richardson argued that Porter’s blog post addressed a matter of public concern (DEI’s impact on academia) and that the university failed to justify its actions under Pickering. He criticized the majority for enabling viewpoint discrimination under the guise of “collegiality,” noting, “Transgressions of tone tend to ring loudest when we disagree with the speaker’s views.”
Supreme Court Appeal (2024): Porter petitioned the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case, arguing it set a dangerous precedent allowing universities to punish dissenting faculty by labeling them uncollegial. On January 22, 2024, the Supreme Court declined to hear the case without comment, letting the 4th Circuit’s ruling stand.
This kind of conduct by the Supreme Court–dismissing cases without comment to satiate the demands of increasingly far-left political interests–is far more common than the public realizes as what passes for “news media” pointedly ignores these cases. How many know of the stunning Morgan Hill flag T-shirts case, students suspended for wearing US flag t-shirts for refusing to remove them after THEY were threatened with violence.
And there’s more! When it comes to outrageous-and unpublicized-abuses by the federal judiciary, the “hits just keep on coming”-ParkerVision v. Qualcomm where a classic small US tech innovator was raped by a giant tech firm-which promptly shared the technology WITH CHINA–a jury verdict in favor of ParkerVision was thrown out by a judge who stated the technology was too complex for the jury to understand–this judge turned out to have Obama and Holder’s fingerprints all over him. Just last week more (effectivey censored) first-rate journalism by independent Sharyl Attkisson on her “Full Measure” program and site exposed the case of a whistleblower’s 14-year battle vs. Merck where he was ordered to FORGE RESULTS OF VACCINE SAFETY DATA and the vaxxes were sold to the CDC. A court ruled that the case was invalid, despite admitting the fraud because the CDC KNEW the vaxxes were defective and bought them anyway!
Feel safer now?
“Massa Cooper, let my people go.” It was a stupid and offensive tweet.
I see nothing offensive or even stupid about this comment. A tongue in cheek inference to living in a Covid era ‘slave state’ led by Cooper. SImple meaning only the dumbest among us should be offended by. There is no right to not be offended.
“Stupid and Offensive” nearly sums up the total of my college years. You should have read the last issue of the student newspaper every semester, now that was stupid and offensive.
I think the Trump administration should be investigating Mak Tompkins, Davidson’s director of student rights and responsibilities. This person is clearly not qualified for this position.
Proud of Huang!!!
If “free” speech comes at a price when you speak, it’s NOT FREE. Jet that sink in.
Still, not ONE POST yet about Mahmoud Khalil’s arrest and detention. Professor Turley, you are seriously harming your bran with me.
Brand?
Nothing to say on the deportation of green card holders based on pro pale$tine positions? Can Turley admit he doesn’t believe in free speech since he’s silent on any government action against peaceful protestors against the genocide in Gaza.
“Peaceful” 🙄
Peaceful? HA!
Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the early 1970’s in Soviet Russia.
John Brennan was a member of the american communist party in the 1970’s
Sandy Cortez ( Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ) was a bar-tender and grew up in the upscale Westchester County area ( probably surrounded by ‘oligarchs’).
Jasmine Crockett is not a relative of Davy Crockett of frontier fame in 1800’s America.
And if you or anyone you love has voted for the Democrat candidate on any recent ballot ( since 2012 ) you are complicit in the mess that party is now enduring —- as Bill Maher correctly observed, the Democrat Party is going the way of the Whigs!
why post-2012? Obama is the genesis for much of this nonsense. If someone voted for a completely unaccomplished community organizer with a marxist background that pledged to fundamentally change the country … while having greek columns at his inauguration … well …
If these college Administrators stated that this student is engaging in an activity that could foster Islamophobia or Transphobia,
am I the only person in this ‘room’ who knows what a ‘phobia’ is?
What is wrong with Islamophobia or transphobia? Are they illegal?
“I have defended faculty who have made an array of disturbing comments on ‘detonating white people,’ denouncing police, calling for Republicans to suffer, strangling police officers, celebrating the death of conservatives, calling for the killing of Trump supporters, supporting the murder of conservative protesters and other outrageous statements.”
When was that?
Chris Christie thinks that administration criticisms of the courts will make it more likely that the Supreme Court will rule against them.
Maybe.
More likely the clarity of this administration will make even Roberts realize that if he supports his lodge member pals in the lower courts he will experience the humiliation of having Trump walk over him and leave the Court and the lower Jacobin judges much diminished behind him.
Justice Marshall saw the peril when it was clear Jefferson would simply ignore an adverse decision and he was smart enough to draft Marbury v Madison to avoid the showdown with Jefferson while strengthening the prestige of the Court.
Is Roberts as savy as Marshall?
Doesn’t seem like, but we will see.
At the moment he seems again to be a coward. But is he a foolish coward?
The Sweet Science Loses Another Great Champion
In addition to a great champion in the ring, George Foreman was also, by all accounts, a great guy.
“I was just glad to be an American. Some people have tried to make something of it, calling me an Uncle Tom, but I’m not.”
By: Larry Thornberry ~ March 22, 2025
https://spectator.org/the-sweet-science-loses-another-great-champion/
Professor could you please address the case of Mahmoud Khalil?
Helloooooo. Case against terroridt sympathizer!
This video clip of NCAA Wrestler USAF LT Wyatt Hendrickson winning, saluting President Trump, then expressing the words he did to the interviewer at the 2025 NCAA wrestling championship, brought tears to my eyes. This is America: love it or leave it
Gotta go watch AFV and laugh a little, but, in further development of your post, I noticed that multiple MEDIA sources touted the “crowd of 30,000” (without evidence, as they like to accuse others) that attended AOC/Bernie rally in Colorado. I note that no media mentioned the +/- 60,000 raucous cheers Trump got yesterday at the packed NCAA event (that holds 67,000- I looked it up). Trump is not my idol-I voted for the platform. But Good Lord. He does not deserve the nonsense he gets. If we are lucky, he will right this ship and get us to shore–ALL of us.
I don’t think they were cheering for him. They were cheering for what he is doing.
Been wrestling since the ancient Greeks.
OT
Petie Butt Gauge and his “roommate” are leading young children in a “pledge of allegiance” at a “gay camp.”
How is this not a crime?
Notice the dark=haired kid in the back, right side, with his hands clasped around his neck. His expression tells us that this seems wrong, it doesn’t seem right…. Sick people running kids’ camps
Having the kids pledge their hearts. That goes beyond pledging allegiance. It is a kind of worship to a false god.
The man leading them should remember something about millstones and being drowned in the depths of the sea . . .
Hello NotSoOld: I am looking at that little boy. I can feel the confusion, the cognitive dissonance.
You are right about “pledging their hearts.” I can just imagine the “counseling” they get, e.g., “Others might make fun of you, but we will always love you. You can come to us. Come to me. I will always love you.” How sad for a young, impressionable kid who does not know the wolf from the shepherd. Kinda like Jim Jones (was that his name?– the kool aid guy?)
P.S. I had two very good gay friends; one (we went to parochial school together as kids), but he passed away a few years ago (in his fifties, a little overweight and died of heart attack). He and his partner would never approve such indoctrination and that’s why I was close to them. They were not effeminate and didn’t feel the need to flaunt or flout their preferences. We had some very deep, very long talks…
So I do not think all gay people are bad or in need of psych care–only the ones who feel the in-your-face need to impose their preferences on everyone else.
What’s the rationale here? Adultery breeds diseases. That’s the basics of it. Just like sewage breeds diseases. How a culture disposes of sewage is a milestone in history. Most likely all genetic damage, viruses, bacteria and variations are from the sewage of living and dead organisms. A piece of DNA here and a piece of RNA there ….
The rationale is God is not perfect since I am not perfect. Either God does not exist or God is faulty. People then disregard crime and sin, a crime against God’s advice.
It proceeds to – I am defective and embrace my defect. It becomes right at that point to reject God and good advice. It is immoral but immoral is what I want. You go , be moral and I’ll do what pleases me. The rationale of the me people. There’s just one pronoun–> ME.
People become more diseased and birth defects abound fearfully. They don’t appear to add 2+2 because that ability has been lost. Just like murder is the gun’s fault.
VERY BRIEF summation of the rationale of the me people.
It’s pedophilia. It’s in the adultery category.
Sadly, it’s self correcting.
I am probably more of a free speech absolutist than Prof. Turley.
But I differ with him on one point.
This nonsense is ultimately self correcting.
Trump is currently pulling funds from colleges that have policies that violate students rights.
That appears to be working.
But a better soolution is just to have government get out of education, and let the free market do its magic.
Few donors are likely to contribute to left wing nut indoctrination centers.
Few students will attend.
Few parents will pay to send their kids.
and if I am wrong and the result is even further left and censorious institutions – then parents students and donors will have gotten what they want.
And that will bring the NEXT check into play – colleges – regardless of ideology or speech policies must produce students with skills worth what they market will pay for them,
And the free market does not pay for things that do not work.
The power of markets is unavoidable – even in central planned countries.
Central planning in the USSR and CCP created governemtn markets that did not work.
Hence a thriving black market that is all that kept the USSR afloat.
The most amazing and accurate part of Ayn Rand’s atleast shrugged is the incredible amount of effort that the producers in Rand’s dytopia – the Dagney Tagerts, the Hank Reardon’s went to try to keep society working despite the failure of central planning.
Free markets do not go away – not even in the most totalitarian societies – they just go underground and work to fix the failure of that central planning.
The US picked Trump because the left failed.
They were going to pick someone else eventually no matter what.
The only question when we move left is how much damage will be done before we change course.
Rather than rant, please cite the Constitution for any enumerated power of Congress to tax for, fund, or regulate education. Apparently, Congress may establish a department, but it cannot tax for, fund, or regulate education, and, perhaps more importantly, the Constitution vests the executive power exclusively “in a President,” which means Congress may have nothing to do with the exercise of executive power, either through legislation or executive action.
John Say, great post. Independent Bob.
John Say,
“ Trump is currently pulling funds from colleges that have policies that violate students rights.
That appears to be working.”
Trump is threatening to use funds to force colleges to squelch speech he doesn’t like. What student rights? There is no contitutional right to an education. There is no conostitutional right to attend a class.
The free market doesn’t work when it’s truly left to it’s devices. It makes things worse, monopolies form and limit choices, competition, and fair opportunity.
“ and if I am wrong and the result is even further left and censorious institutions – then parents students and donors will have gotten what they want.”
If you’re wrong, conservatives and the right will do what they always do. Start regulating and dictating what the left can and can’t do. The will never stand for it if it were ever to go that way. They will still complain, and accuse of discrimination against conservatives and push for legislation restricting the left. Like they are doing now.
These beliefs about the free market are simply fantasies. Every market is designed to favor the wealthy and powerful. This became evident during the 2008 housing crisis, when banks were not held accountable and did not fail despite nearly collapsing the economy. Instead of facing the consequences, they received bailouts when they should have been allowed to fail. The market is rigged. There have never been true “free markets” in any era.
Trump is undermining the free speech rights of green card holders and students on visas, as it is easier to deny them their rights when they are labeled as “enemies.” Everyone within our borders is entitled to free speech. The Trump administration is punishing those who dare to protest and express dissent. This viewpoint contradicts Turley’s beliefs about free speech and the principles of a free speech absolutist. A true free speech absolutist would defend Khalil and anyone protesting against Israel, including those who express support for Hamas. This situation is comparable to expressing support for the KKK, Neo-Nazis, or even Communists, Marxists, and Socialists. Turley is demonstrating a disgrace by refusing to engage in a discussion about the serious implications of Trump’s attacks on free speech.
George: Please read the attached and then tell us your response. thanks, lin.
“Legal Group Defending Anti-Israel Activist Previously Warned Protesters Like Him Could Be Deported”
https://dailycaller.com/2025/03/21/legal-group-anti-israel-activist-warned-protesters-him-deported/
Lin,
The problem with the article is immediate. It’s this,
“ A legal group claiming President Donald Trump has no authority to deport a Palestinian protester previously warned others about how pro-Hamas advocacy could get them deported.”
The there is no “pro-Hamas advocacy”. The protests were never about Hamas. Those on the right deliberately label the protests and anyone protesting for the Palestinians as support for Hamas. That is the excuse used to dismiss any claims of free speech or political speech and threaten deportation, punishment, or expulsion. It’s used as pretext to violate student’s rights and silence dissent.
There is zero evidence that Khalil passed out flyers supporting Hamas, or express support fot Hamas, zero. Negotiating for the protesters with the school is not a crime not it is evidence of supporting a terrorist group. He has no criminal record. Accusing him of being associated with those who did commit acts of vandalism or that there were others who waved a Hamas flag or sported a Khafye headscarf is not evidence of material support. Even those who did wave a flag or uttered opinions of Hamas are still engaging in protected speech. Just because you or Trump, or John don’t like that they are expressing support for a group labeled a terrorist group does not mean they are exempt from the 1st amendment protections. They could stand on a street corner expressing support all day long and still be engaging in protected speech. They would be no different than what the Westboro Baptist Church used to do when they expressed vile and utterly repulsive speech celebrating the death of gulf war soldiers. You could label their speech as ‘support for terrorists’ just the same and they would still would not be subject to punishement or retribution from the government.
Trump is directly attacking free speech by threatening deportations and punishment for dissenting and expressing views that are clearly offensive and divisive.
Khalil is being deported because he dared express his political views and exercised his right to criticize the government. If you have to start your argument with, “it’s not about free speech” you already admit it is about free speech.
Thanks, George, just wanted to get you on record here, so we can compare/ see what Rubio relies on to make his case.
Rubio has no evidence, zero that Khalil poses a threat to U.S. policy.
Passing out flyers threatens U.S. policy? Negotiating with school officials to peacefully resolve the impasse with protesters?
The Trump administration has no evidence of anything and that is the problem. They can’t even produce a warrant stating the reason why he is being deported. The vague accusation that he supports Hamas is based on “just watch the video” and “he passed flyers supporting Hamas” without any evidence to support it. the DOJ has the burden of proof and they still have not pressed charges or produced any evidence. Trump’s DOJ is already in trouble with Judge Boesberg becuse they have been lying to him. The DOJ is lying about Khalil as well.
Everything you just said is pure bulls–t.
JohnSay: Having nothing to do with the merits of your post, I burst out laughing at “Ayn Rand’s atleast shrugged”
Are you using voice dictation or AI?
Well this is amusinig. Turley is concerned that a conservative is being investigated because….he is opposed to someone else’s different point of view. Weird. Trump’s DOJ is already engaging in these kinds of investigations and threatening deportations for anyone expressing their political views.
When the first words out of Trump supporters is “it’s not about free speech” it’s definitely about free speech. Using the pretext that they are supportive of Hamas or some off brand terrorist group without any evidence. It’s a pretty convenient way to attack free speech and 5th amendment rights without making it obvious. Sadly nobody buys it except the naive and those on willful denial.
Turley won’t discuss the Khalil case and now others in the same situation because it still requires Turley being forced to criticize Trump’s weak argument. Now tha Trump has publicly admitted he never signed any proclamation invoking the Alien Enemies Act his argument seems to be worse.
Turley clearly is going to be at odds with the Trump administration’s attacks on free speech. Threatening and labeling protesters against the Israeli war on Palestininans as “Hamas supporters” without evidence and using mere insinuations or assigning guilty by association are direct threats to freedom of speech.
He talks a good yarn about the threats to free speech in his book, but when the obvious attacks from the Trump administration are too much, it seems the best course of action is to ignore it and avoid the MAGA backlash and Trump’s ire.
Then we have Trump’s direct threats to impeach judges who are doing their jobs and MAGA’s being completely illiterate about how our judicial system works. The ignorance is astounding.
George free speech for all does NOT mean there are no consequences for Bad Conduct.
Trump is punishing people legitimately engaged in free speech against him and his ideology and supporters
AND
engaged in immoral, illegal and unethical conduct.
They are being punished for their conduct.
Falsely stating that the hunter biden laptop looked like russian disinformation is free speech
Falsely using government access to classified information for political purposes is conduct.
Cutting off that access is not punishing speech, it is punishing conduct.
Protesting for Hamas is free speech.
Orgaizing the take over of private property, violence, and the infringement of the rights of others is conduct.
Using those actions to attempt to extort colleges to get what you want is conduct – extortion is a crime.
Saying that Russians are colluding with Trump is free speech.
Funding the production of a dossier full of lies about that and reporting it to the FBI as evidence of a crime is CONDUCT,
Laundering the money necescary to do so is CONDUCT.
Those of you on the left claim that reporting on private records payments to a lawyer as a legal expense is a crime.
Then what is laundering money through a law firm to manufacture fraudulent evidence, providing that to the FBI and then calling it legal expenses in public FEC filings ? Surely that is 10,000 times the crime of calling paying a lawyer to secure an NDA a legal expense.
Absolutely the people Trump is targeting excercised their right to free speech to say nasty and false things about Trump.
But everyone of them ALSO egaged in conduct that is either criminal, illegal, unconstitutional, immoral or unethical or combinantions of the above.
It is hillarious that those of you on the left wielded the power of government against your political enemies – for what they said that was legal and nearly always true. And for what they did that was ALSO legal and correct.
You have done after the attornies that defended Trump – for defending Trump.
And you expect that will not come with consequences ?
Further – this is not about Trump and Trump’s enemies.
You did most of this to the american people.
You investigated catholoics, and prolife protestors, and parents of school kids.
You SWATTED them – and continue to do so even today.
You prosecuted them.
You violated the rights of ordinary people.
Those people DEMAND consequences.
Support for Trump’s actions – including those you are ranting about is high – because the people Trump is going after not only abused power to harm Trump – but also to harm ordinary people.
Those of you on the left rant the MOSTLY unsuccessful effort to censor american people through social media.
Everyone inside the federal government that touched that should be fired.
Regardless you targeted ordinary people you disagreed with.
No one is seeking to censor the left – but your idiotic fasle exercises of free speech are NOT a sheild against prosecution for your CONDUCT.
“ George free speech for all does NOT mean there are no consequences for Bad Conduct.”
Bad conduct is not a crime. Passing out flyers is a free speech acvtivity. Organiziing protests is bad conduct?
“ Trump is punishing people legitimately engaged in free speech against him and his ideology and supporters
AND
engaged in immoral, illegal and unethical conduct.
They are being punished for their conduct.”
That’s illegal. They have done nothing illegal, there have been no charges at all. Immoral and unethical conduct are not crimes. Some free speech can be immoral and unethical. Trump finds the protests and their point of view offensive and wrong. So he’s punishing them by deporting and threatening to deport those even thinking about protesting or engaging in constitutionally protected political speech and denying them their due proccess rights by rushing the deportations before any court can weight in. THAT is the goal. To kick people out because they exercised their right to express their political views before any court can prevent it. Dictators tend to do that.
“ You investigated catholoics, and prolife protestors, and parents of school kids.
You SWATTED them – and continue to do so even today.
You prosecuted them.
You violated the rights of ordinary people.“
Investigating is not prosecuting or punishing. Being swatted is not even a crime. Those who have been prosecuted were because there was evidence to prosecute. They were at a minimum still afforded their due process rights. What rights are you talking about?
“ Those people DEMAND consequences.“
John we don’t dispense justice by lynch mob, we dispence justice according to the law. The law doesn’t care what the people demand. The law doesn’t care what the people demand. You of all people should know that.
“ Support for Trump’s actions – including those you are ranting about is high – because the people Trump is going after not only abused power to harm Trump – but also to harm ordinary people.“
Support for Trump’s unconstitutional actions does not mean Trump has the carte blanche authority to circumvent the consitution and the law because it’s an impediment to what he wants. Trump is going after those who dare criticize him and express dissent. You talk about censorship being a bad thing and here you are supporting it because Trump was a vicitm of his own conduct. Protesting against Israeli policy against Palestinians deeply upsets Trump. He wants to instill fear on anyone contemplating protesting or expressing dissent against Israel or himself by chilling any notion of expresssion against it thru the threat of deportation, investigation, expulsion, and suspension. Turley should be having a field day criticizng Trump, but he can’t. Because he would be on the ‘wrong’ side in MAGA’s eyes and he definitely doesn’t want to be a target fot MAGA’s illiterate wrath.
“ No one is seeking to censor the left – but your idiotic fasle exercises of free speech are NOT a sheild against prosecution for your CONDUCT.”
Trump is. You call it “false exercise of free speech” to excuse the censorship you approve of. You don’t want to acknowledge the fact that those students engaged in political speech. Protesting is protected conduct. Those who engage in violence are not proteced obviously. You and those on the right want to label association and mere expression of political dissent as “false exercise of free speech” so it’s easier to violate their rights and excuse Trump’s attacks on free speech.
You’re conflating speech as conduct, just like the Europeans which is quite ironic because you’re opposed to that and so is Turley. Now you are condoning the practice of punishing them by conflating speech as conduct. You’re not fooling anyone with that wordsmithing and thinly veiled insinutations. You are for censorship and punishing dissent as long as you can conflate speech as conduct and smear any support for Palestinians as “Hamas support”. You’re doing what you accuse the left of doing. You’ve fallen into the vicious circle of hypocrisy that often befalls dictators and autoctrats.
John Say,
Great take down of the slow and dumb one.
George – please not a single person you think is being persuted by Trump who is having a right restricted for a reason BESIDES conduct.
Your absolute right to engage in free speech does NOT convert your excercise of free speech into a sheild protecting you conduct on related or unrelated issues.
If the Trans nutjobs who blew up Tesla’s also posted anti-Trump or musk rhetoric on FaceBook, does that mean they can no longer be prosecuted for arson ?
“ George – please not a single person you think is being persuted by Trump who is having a right restricted for a reason BESIDES conduct.
Your absolute right to engage in free speech does NOT convert your excercise of free speech into a sheild protecting you conduct on related or unrelated issues.”
What conduct is criminal here?
You’re trying to conflate speech with conduct. Again. protetsting and handing out flyers is conduct protected by the 1st amendment because it is free speech activity.
Khalil’s conduct was passing out flyers, negotiating with school administration, and organizing a protest. What exactly about that conduct is punishible? Does that conduct rise to a deportable offense?
Expressing dissent is what the Trump administration is seeking to punish him and anyone else for it.
“ If the Trans nutjobs who blew up Tesla’s also posted anti-Trump or musk rhetoric on FaceBook, does that mean they can no longer be prosecuted for arson ?”
It would depend on evidence linkng the specific person to the arsons, right? You’re arguing that those expressing support for the arsons should be prosecuted and punished even if they were not the ones who did the crime.
Trump is using social media posts and opinions to threaten deportations and investigations of foreign students and green card holders as reason to deport or revoke visas. For merely expressing dissent or support for Palestinians or the protesters. It’s deliberate chilling of speech. Trump is using the crime of thought to kick out those whose views he doesn’t like. A direct violation of their free speech rights.
You didn’t tolerate the government just pressuring social media to silence or curb opposing views, which the Supreme Court ruled was permissible. What they COULDN’T DO was punish or force social media to remove those views. Trump is pressuring colleges and universities to dissuade students from engaging in protests against Israel. He’s punishing those who engaged in protected free speech activities with deportation and revoking visas. Effectively silencing dissent and criticism.
Turley will have a hard time making excuses for Trump’s clear violations of student’s rights and attacking free speech in worse ways than he accused Biden of. This is why he isn’t writing about it and chooses to find the odd or quicky story to avoid what he should be deeply involved in. Defending the free speech rights of Palestinians students and decrying Khalil’s punishment for exercising his political speech. Using Hamas as an excuse is not enough and Turley knows it.
The protestors against israel’s war on terrorists are HAMAS supporters – and they are free to support HAMAS with their speech.
They are not free to beat up jews to take over and/or damage private property to deprive other students of the right to education, to extort universities with threats of continued violence if the universities do not capitulate to their demands.
You can rant in favor of HAMAS all you want. That is not what these people are being prosecuted for.
“ The protestors against israel’s war on terrorists are HAMAS supporters – and they are free to support HAMAS with their speech.”
Wrong. You don’t get to dictate what they say. They are not Hamas supporters. You and those on the right are deliberately smearing them with that label to justify the excuse that they should be punished.
“ They are not free to beat up jews to take over and/or damage private property to deprive other students of the right to education, to extort universities with threats of continued violence if the universities do not capitulate to their demands.”
Those who have engaged in violence during those protests HAVE been arrested and prosecuted according to the law.
There is no right to an education. The Constitution says nothing of a right to education.
The protesters were not extorting Universities with threats. Demands for boycotts are legitimate free speech activities. Occupying buildings are not. But they were no threatening violence. SOME students engaged in vandalism, not violence. The majority of violence didn’t start until police showed up to force students off campus using violence and force.
“ You can rant in favor of HAMAS all you want. That is not what these people are being prosecuted for.”
They are not in favor of Hamas. You’re deliberately labeling anyone protesting as a Hamas supporter instead of what they really are, supporters against Israel’s treatment of Palestinians in Gaza.
Trump and those on the right want to punish protesters because they don’t like the dissent and their point of view. Making excuses to punish them is the goal. Trump wants to silence the dissent and criticism by chillng speech through threats of deportation, revoking visas, and threatening student citizens with expulsion and suspension for merely participating in a protest or expressing support on social media. Trump is attacking free speech because he doesn’t like their point of view. You didn’t like it when Biden was pressuring social media. You are now making excuses for Trump to direclty stifle Palestinians supporters speech and views. He wants to punish them for having “illegal protests”.
“Then we have Trump’s direct threats to impeach judges who are doing their jobs and MAGA’s being completely illiterate about how our judicial system works. The ignorance is astounding.”
It is YOUR ignorance that is astounding – While Roberts is right it is extreme to threaten to impeach judges for political bias. It is also extreme for judges to engage in large scale political bias and violate the law and constitution and to take authority and make decisions that are NOT within their powers.
Democrats turned impeachment into a political weapon. Now it is being used against them. You make that mistake repeatedly.
the Tda members being flown to El Salvador were being held in Texas and flew to El Salvador from TX, I do not beleive a single one was ever in DC. Specifically under AEA – but more generally under other presidential immigration powers, the Courts are limited to Habeus jurisdiction over anyone illegally in the US who has no visa, no green card and no citizenship. The Law requires Habeus claims to be made individually – there is no such thing as habeus class action – though Judge Boasberg is trying to create on. Boasberg has already admitted that he has no jurisdiction over the foreign powers of the president – and that includes the finding that tda is acting as an arm of the venezuelan government to cause violence and disruption in the US using force. That finding allows the president to invoke the AEA – and lessor findings allow the president other broad immigration and deportation powers.
Judge Boasberg admitted his lack of laeful authority and refuses to confine himself to the power that he lawfully has.
He MUST drop this case – DC is not the proper venue for any federal case involving Tda members who were not living in DC, or arreseted in DC or transported through or out of DC.
Wrose still – the 5 plantiffs the case was filed on behalf of remain in the US, and have waived their habeus rights – they had to or Boasberg would lose jurisdiction of the case. But if they have waived Habeus – then they can be deported immediately and the courts can do nothing.
And the Boasberg case is just ONE of thr lawless acts of judges.
John Say, again. You’re wrong.
Making assumptions about Judge Boesberg and your own ignorance of the law is the problem. Trump wants to impeach the judge because he’s doing exactly what he’s supposed to do. This judge is well versed in classified information, FISA and how government operates. This is why he is righly expressing skepticism about Trump’s DOJ’s assertions. They keep changing their reasons and making up new excuses everytime the judge asks for direct evidence. Trump’s DOJ’s is trying to keep information proving they lied to the judge from being presented. Everyone else knows Trump’s DOJ is lying and obfucating. It’s only a matter of time before it comes out in the open.
I’ve read many of George’s posts & he’s nothing but a leftist G-dforsaken hypocrite who’s full of s–t.
George we had to listen to those of you on the left rant to impeach judges whose decisions you did not like – and you still do. we listened to you and biden admin officials discus ignoring the courts,
There is absolutely nothing Trump is doing that was not done by Biden and or Obama.
There is no demand being made by Trump supporters that was not made by those on the left on far weaker basis.
You say that is not how or system works – yet that was not what you were saying last year.
Her account is all too familiar for many of us in higher education.
Higher education? I think you mean higher indoctrination.
This tells me more about parents sending their kids to school than anything else, because there are still plenty of people matriculating every year. Really: what will it take to get it through thick skulls that this is flushing money down the drain? It’s like a legitimate blind spot or willful mental block. Nobody is going to hire your woke kids, and their ‘degree’ is just proof that you paid, like a receipt. Why does this not register, even a little bit? Seriously. The institutions are certainly to blame, but who continues to send the kids to them, hm? It isn;t these administrators or professors.
We have had a good start over the past four months, but we are not *nearly* done. Not even a hair’s breadth close. This is going to take years, possibly generations. What the modern left has done to us collectively, and that at the hands of a privileged few (that would be the modern left, the wealthiest of all, Bernie and AOC), is tough to even calculate. Heaven help us, and God speed. We can’t relent at any foreseeable time in the future. They will not stop, even if they are legally forced to.
I marvel at the “anti-disinformation” crowd – they must be among the most short-sighted people in the world. History makes it clear that the political leanings of a society are not a ponderous medicine ball, slowly being rolled around by slowly changing public opinion. They are a pendulum moving between extremes. For example, there has been a period of relative stability in recent years, where the powerful have dictated a number of woke changes that seemed to be sticking. But just like a pendulum, the seeming stability occurs at the extremes as the push for changes slows down and stops when the push for restoration back to middle ground picks up steam. And just like a pendulum, there is no stability at the middle ground, the opposite extreme is inevitable, one guaranteed to make the currently powerful extremely uncomfortable. Guaranteed human rights, like free speech, don’t eliminate the societal pendulum effect, but they do act to minimize the extremes and the damage to individuals caused by them.
In fact, this society is none of that rubbish.
This society was intended to be the “manifest tenor” of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
That fundamental law has been “fundamentally transformed” into the Communist Manifesto by covetous charlatans and faux intellectuals.
The whole place is invalid, illegitimate, illicit, and unconstitutional.
You can thank “Crazy Abe” Lincoln for throwing the baby out with the bathwater—for throwing the Constitution out with reprehensible slavery.
That onerous debacle notwithstanding, and had the fundamental and statutory law been adhered to, the secessionary adolescents would have withdrawn, collapsed, and rejoined; the long-suffering unassimilable and antithetical parasitic foreign entities involved would have been compassionately repatriated; and America would have blossomed into the exceptional and integral vision and purpose of its Founders.
Trump and his 30 million ardent supporters have shown they are definitively anti-American. They are against free speech (unless it’s their speech), are for illegal search and seizure, are for alienating allies, are for communist era nationalist trade protection, are for allying with anti-democratic dictators like Putin, are for abrogating the separation of powers, are for bypassing the rules to get what they want, are for disregarding the law and the judiciary.
There are 330 million of us vs 30 million of them. When they get wiped out in the midterms, Trump is toast. If Trump and his followers want to make a stink about, perhaps and actual civil war will be needed to put them in their place.
Crawl back under the rock you came out of and take your pronouns and shove them. And your math skills testify to your public school indoctrination. Funny how all you freaks, spew the same talking points and propaganda. Goebbels would be so proud.
@Anonymous
How much did you get paid for that comment? 500$ A thousand? Understand the game now, folks: these people are paid by the comment now, and that is why some are complete non-sequiturs. Even if we ignore them, they still get paid just for posting. Not much we can do, but something very important to bear in mind. Fighting with them is pointless, they have already been paid, though overwhelming them with dissent is useful. It’s different from the troll farms of yore; this could just be some stupid kid who also does Door Dash on the side. It is just another facet of the gig economy to them, they don’t actually give a toss about any of this. That is both very sad and telling, but it’s real. And I didn’t raise these little miscreants; point the finger at yourselves.