Hiding Elephants in Mouseholes: Why a Third Term for Trump is Not Likely

Below is my column in The Hill on the President stating that he is not joking about pursuing a third term. The statement lit up the media. However, it works better as a jump scare for liberals than a credible claim for the courts.

Here is the column:

The late Justice Antonin Scalia famously said that Congress does not “hide elephants in mouseholes.” His point was that courts are skeptical of using minor provisions in a statute to achieve sweeping new legal changes.

The challenge of stuffing an elephant into a mousehole came to mind this week after President Donald Trump said that he is “not joking” about considering a third term and that experts told him it is possible under the Constitution.

One often has to take such moments with a heavy dose of skepticism from a president who clearly relished handing snake-in-a-can soundbites to the media just to watch the resulting screams. If so, he was not disappointed. The media went into renewed vapors as commentators pronounced, yet again, the death of democracy.

However, given the president’s statement, it is important to be clear about the basis for this theory, which has long been something of a parlor game for law professors on how a president might be able to circumvent the two-term limitation imposed by the 22nd Amendment.

Let’s start with the language. Ratified in 1951, the amendment was passed ironically by Republicans who were reacting to Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s decision to break from the tradition of two-term presidencies by seeking a third term. The intent was clear. They believed that serving more than two terms exposed the country to the danger of a politician occupying the office for life or prolonged periods.

To prevent that, the amendment states:

“No person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice, and no person who has held the office of president, or acted as president, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected president shall be elected to the office of the president more than once.”

Notably, the language includes those who were not necessarily elected to the office but “held” the office for more than two years (presumably through succession to the office due to a vacancy).

Few seriously doubt the intent of the amendment to prevent any person serving a third term to force a change of leadership in the nation.

That is when the mousehole comes in. The amendment refers to a person being “elected.” Thus, some advocates claim that the amendment does not prevent a president from “serving” a third term — only being “elected” to such a term.

This strained interpretation would mean that the drafters were solely aggrieved by the thought of someone running for the office and not serving in the office. There is no compelling historical support for that interpretation.

Under this interpretation, a two-term president could engineer a third term by running for vice president and having the elected president then resign after the inauguration.

The problem with this tactic is another amendment. The 12th amendment states that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

Trump could not run for vice president because he is ineligible to be president. Accordingly, he would likely be barred from many state ballots from running for vice president.

Yet, there is an even smaller mousehole. Trump could have two people run for president and vice president as stand-in officeholders while he could engineer his election as Speaker of the House of Representatives.

After the election, they could both resign and Trump would be third in the line of succession. Putting aside the considerable level of faith in both the president and vice president resigning, the maneuver would make a mockery of the constitutional design behind the amendments. 

It would also make leading Republican candidates mockeries as types of “mini-mes” for Trump. Even the debate of such a maneuver before the election would demean figures like Vice President J.D. Vance as mere cutouts in a Constitutional sleight-of-hand.

The fueling of this talk also works in favor of those politicians and commentators who continue to claim that Trump is an autocrat committed to the destruction of the American democracy. It suggests that Trump is open to trashing constitutional traditions or language to achieve prolonged power.

In fairness to those advocating this theory, this is not an assault on democracy or a call for tyranny. It is an effort to use clever interpretations of the Constitution to allow for a third term. Voters would be aware of this maneuver when going to the polls (which is doubtful), and courts would have to uphold the interpretation (which is even more doubtful).

In the end, the powder is not worth the prize in raising this prospect. President Trump has carried off the political comeback of the century. His administration is set to make history with sweeping changes that continue to garner considerable support among the public. This claim will only undermine that legacy and the support needed to achieve it.

 

254 thoughts on “Hiding Elephants in Mouseholes: Why a Third Term for Trump is Not Likely”

  1. This news just in from CNN. . . .

    Judge James Boasberg has issued an injunction order late Friday night ordering the President to reverse all tarrifs effective immediately. Judge Boasberg has also ordered the US Government to issue reparations to China in the amount of $170 billion to be paid within 30 days. Judge Boasberg commented that he’s already checked with the US Supreme Court and said that he has the backing of five justices to affirm his order.

  2. From “Huff Post” :

    “WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump skipped the return of the remains of four soldiers who died in a training exercise to Dover Air Force Base on Friday and instead spent millions of taxpayer dollars to attend a dinner for one of his business interests and to play golf.

    The bodies of the four members of the Army’s 3rd Infantry Division — Sgt. Jose Duenez Jr., 25, of Joliet, Illinois; Sgt. Edvin F. Franco, 25, of Glendale, California; Staff Sgt. Troy S. Knutson-Collins, 28, of Battle Creek, Michigan; and Pfc. Dante D. Taitano, 21, of Dededo, Guam ― were returned to Delaware for their “dignified transfer” ceremony Friday morning. They died when their 70-ton armored M88 towing vehicle sank in a bog in Lithuania last week.

    While the ceremony took place on the Air Force base tarmac, Trump was 900 miles south at his golf course in West Palm Beach, Florida, across the Intracoastal Waterway from his Palm Beach country club.

    A Trump administration official, on condition of anonymity, said that “the families requested no media at the transfer” and that the “White House is respecting their request for privacy today and has been working on correspondence to the families.”

    However, presidents in the past have attended dignified transfers while their accompanying press pools have been held in a location away from the ceremony. The White House did not respond to a query about why that did not happen in this case.

    While Trump typically goes to Florida for his $3.4 million golf weekends on Fridays, he traveled a day early this week to attend a closed-door dinner at his Doral golf resort for the Saudi LIV tour, one of his business partners that holds events at his courses.

    This trip, though, will cost taxpayers at least $4.2 million because of the detour to Miami International Airport, which is located just two miles east of Trump’s Doral resort. Trump nevertheless took a Marine helicopter to fly to the golf course and back rather than ride in his motorcade.

    Friday was Trump’s 16th day of golf at the West Palm course and his 20th day at one of his courses since taking office Jan. 20, meaning that as of Friday, he has played golf on 27% of his days in office in his second term. The total cost to taxpayers for transporting him and his security apparatus to and from those venues these past 11 weeks is now $30.4 million, according to a HuffPost analysis.

    Trump, who under the Constitution’s “emoluments clause” is not permitted to accept payments except for his official salary, has nevertheless been using his official position to help the LIV tour. In February, days after returning to office, he hosted the head of the Professional Golf Association in the Oval Office, from where he participated on a conference call with the head of the LIV tour. Trump has been open about trying to get the two rival golf organizations to merge, which, if it happens, would boost LIV and therefore himself.

    LIV has since its inception used Trump’s courses for its tournaments and is holding its fourth such tournament at Doral this weekend. The Trump Organization, the umbrella company for Trump’s various business interests, did not respond to HuffPost queries about how much LIV has paid for the use of the golf courses.

    That Trump would put his personal finances and his golf hobby ahead of honoring U.S. service members, while unusual for a president, is in character with his previous treatment of the military. Trump famously refused to go out in the rain for a ceremony honoring U.S. Marines who died in WWI during the 100-year anniversary of Armistice Day in France. His own chief of staff at the time confirmed that Trump called service members who died for the United States “suckers” and “losers.”

    1. Gigi: HuffPost??? You DO have a child-like naivety in seeking out and quoting articles that conform with your own biases. I think your buddy George calls that the “Kruger-Dunning effect.” (Although he really meant Dunning-Kruger.)
      It would be really nice and mature if you came up with your own thoughts and opinions about the “orange fat pig” now and then. thanks, yours truly, lin.

      1. Lin,
        Well said and spot on. Leftists are incapable of independent thinking or critical thinking. They just buy into whatever MSM, The View or Rachel Maddow say despite how many times they have lied to them.

    2. This is the usual pack of lies, but I just want to point out one lie that some people might not notice.

      The domestic emoluments clause forbids the president from receiving payments from the states. Not from anyone else. So even if these golf people were paying him for his services (which they’re not) it would be completely legal.

      And of course they’re not paying him. At most they are doing business with him, on the same market terms that anyone else can, which is not an emolument.

  3. Apparently Norm Eisen himself spoke of his cordial relationship with Roberts.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/chief-justice-roberts-secret-friendship-trump-prosecutor-ally

    Judges and justices who act like politicians are going to have their robes pulled aside and their lives scrutinized in the way politicians are. I don’t think they are ready for it. They are used to thinking of themselves as above the fray and, like mini-Popes, infallible. Now their decisions will be weighed less by legal correctness than by their obvious political and personal biases. And we will wonder what other inducements influence their decisions. A number of these radical judges appear to have family members whose lives may be affected by their decisions. Judges can be prosecuted too.

    1. Being ‘King of the Hill’ doesn’t relatively last long – better start thinking – Who comes after Chief Justice John Roberts ???????
      Who replaces; Justice Clarence Thomas, Justice Sonia Sotomayor, Justice Samuel A. Alito, Jr. … ???????
      Four nearing Retirement, should they choose to do so.

    2. “Now their decisions will be weighed less by legal correctness than by their obvious political and personal biases. And we will wonder what other inducements influence their decisions.”

      If you mean weighed by public opinion after a decision is taken, not weighed by the individual judges before rendering same, I have a quibble with that analysis. The decisions of these judges (at least the important decisions that we are usually concerned with, which involve fundamental individual liberties and constraints on government guaranteed by the U. S. Constitution) are usually pretty easy to scrutinize, and the misinterpretations, whether erroneous or deliberate, easy to sniff out. When that happens (all too often), if their associations and biases are also known, attribution of a poor decision element to influence should be equally easy to identify (but not necessarily prove beyond doubt). More and more it appears that we need Congress to assert its authority to remove judges who are not observing “good Behaviour” as strongly implied in Article III, Section 1 (no mention of any impeachment requirement there). At one time I would have been somewhat opposed to this, after the revelations about Federal judges over the past few years, I strongly support it.

  4. Jonathan: Consider the following:

    Trump magazine
    Trump vodka
    Trump airlines
    Trump steaks
    Trump water
    Trump mattresses
    The Trump Game
    Trump University
    Trump Foundation
    Trump Taj Mahal (bankrupt)
    Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino (bankrupt)
    Trump Plaza Hotel (bankrupt)
    Trump Castle Hotel & Casino (bankrupt
    Trump Hotel & Casino Resort (bankrupt)
    Trump Entertainment Resorts (bankrupt)

    The above are just some of DJT’s businesses that failed or went bankrupt. Now DJT, with his insane tariffs, is in the process of bankrupting America. He says it’s “Liberation Day” in America. Any one feel “liberated” as everything you buy is going to cost a lot more? The Economist calls DJT’s tariffs “Ruination Day”.

    As the markets are crashing, Americans are seeing their 401k accounts evaporate and US companies are already laying off thousands of workers how is DJT reacting? He left early yesterday to watch a golf tournament in FL–all at taxpayer expense!

    1. GM to increase Truck production at Fort Wayne, Indiana, assembly plant. GM said in a statement on Thursday that it will hire temporary workers for the Fort Wayne assembly plant, saying that will be part of “operational adjustments” at the plant “to support current manufacturing and business needs.”

      Hyundai Motor Group Commits to U.S. Growth with USD 21 Billion Investment
      https://www.hyundainews.com/en-us/releases/4404

      The Group to invest a total of USD 21 billion in the U.S. from 2025 to 2028
      USD 9 billion to expand U.S. automobile production to 1.2 million units annually
      USD 6 billion to enhance parts, logistics and steel business, increasing the localization of auto parts and strengthening supply chains
      USD 6 billion to expand future industries and strengthen external partnerships and energy infrastructure, including EV charging
      Investment is expected to create more than 100,000 direct and indirect job opportunities by 2028, including 14,000 direct full-time jobs

      Johnson & Johnson Increases U.S. Investment to More than $55 Billion Over the Next Four Years
      https://www.jnj.com/media-center/press-releases/johnson-johnson-increases-u-s-investment-to-more-than-55-billion-over-the-next-four-years
      Investment builds on almost 140-year legacy of improving and saving lives and supporting American jobs

      Includes four planned new manufacturing facilities, with ground-breaking today in North Carolina on $2 billion+ facility

      Total Company U.S. economic impact estimated to be more than $100 billion per year

      1. DNYUZ, dateline April 3, 2025:

        “Stellantis has “paused production” at some of its Canadian and Mexican auto assembly plants due to the newly announced tariffs — and as a result, some US workers will also be temporarily laid off.

        Among those to be laid off are 900 US hourly employees who make powertrains and stampings that supply the affected Canadian and Mexican plants, Stellantis said Thursday. The temporary layoffs are due to reduced production prompted by the tariffs.

        The affected US employees work at five different Midwest plants: the Warren Stamping and Sterling Stamping plants in Michigan, as well as the Indiana Transmission Plant, Kokomo Transmission Plant and Kokomo Casting Plant, all in Kokomo, Indiana.

        Most of these workers at the five US plants will not immediately lose pay due to the terms of their union contract. But there would be a risk of lost pay, even with union protections, if the shutdowns at the Mexican and Canadian plants become prolonged.

        Stellantis’s assembly plant in Windsor, Ontario — which produces the Chrysler Pacifica and Voyager as well as the Dodge Charger Daytona — will be closed for two weeks starting Monday. That plant employs 4,500 hourly workers.

        Also starting Monday, Stellantis’s assembly plant in Toluca, Mexico, which makes the Jeep Compass and electric Wagoneer S, will be closed for the rest of April. The Toluca plant has 2,400 hourly workers.

        In a memo to Stellantis’ North American employees, Stellantis’ chief operating officer for the Americas Antonio Filosa said the company is “continuing to assess the medium- and long-term effects of these tariffs on our operations, but also have decided to take some immediate actions.”

        “These are actions that we do not take lightly, but they are necessary given the current market dynamics,” he added. “We understand that the current environment creates uncertainty. Be assured that we are very engaged with all of our key stakeholders, including top government leaders, unions, suppliers and dealers in the US, Canada, and Mexico, as we work to manage and adapt to these changes.””

        “Planned investments” may never materialize. Meanwhile, the auto workers above have already lost their jobs.

      2. Ford is also responding to the tariffs (in a slightly different way, since it was not as heavily invested in foreign production as were many of its competitors,) in an attempt to increase market share.
        ============================================================================================
        Ford announces lower model prices following Trump’s 25% tariffs on non-American-made vehicles
        https://justthenews.com/nation/economy/ford-announces-america-first-pricing
        “The automobile manufacturer is offering what it coined a “handshake deal with every American,” one day following the imposition of 25% tariffs on non-American-made vehicles…
        Ford on Thursday announced a new, lower-cost vehicle pricing plan – “From America, For America” – following President Trump unveiling the previous day 25% tariffs on non-American-made vehicles.
        The spring plan will offer employee pricing to potential customers for most vehicles – electric, gas-powered and hybrid – with the exception of some higher-end models include Navigator SUVs.”

    2. Apple will spend more than $500 billion in the U.S. over the next four years
      https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/apple-will-spend-more-than-500-billion-usd-in-the-us-over-the-next-four-years/
      Teams and facilities to expand in Michigan, Texas, California, Arizona, Nevada, Iowa, Oregon, North Carolina, and Washington

      Plans include a new factory in Texas, doubling the U.S. Advanced Manufacturing Fund, a manufacturing academy, and accelerated investments in AI and silicon engineering

      Nvidia to invest billions in US chip production over four years, FT reports
      https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-invest-billions-us-chip-production-over-four-years-ft-reports-2025-03-20/
      “Nvidia (NVDA.O), opens new tab plans to invest hundreds of billions of dollars in U.S.-made chips and electronics over the next four years, the Financial Times reported on Wednesday, quoting CEO Jensen Huang.”

      1. If you read the entire “news release”, you will see this–and, BTW, the announcement is dated in February, BEFORE Trump’s stupid tariffs:

        “Cautionary Statement Regarding Forward-Looking Statements
        This press release contains forward-looking statements (as that term is defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995) including about planned capital investments in new manufacturing capacity, production of medicines, hiring and related initiatives and reflects Lilly’s current beliefs and expectations. However, as with any such undertaking, there are substantial risks and uncertainties in the manufacturing process, development and commercialization of pharmaceutical products any of which could impact the overall commercial success of our products, and as related to cost, completion timing, expected capacity, personnel, and other factors which could impact expected benefits of the capacity expansion and related initiatives. For further discussion of risks and uncertainties relevant to Lilly’s business that could cause actual results to differ from Lilly’s expectations, see Lilly’s Form 10-K and Form 10-Q filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission. Except as required by law, Lilly undertakes no duty to update forward-looking statements to reflect events after the date of this release.”

    3. Dennis McIntyre, lacking a Professor Turley column today to use as his personal blog posted this in yesterday’s column: Jonathan: Consider the following:

      Interpretation for normal Americans outside of the Democrat Borg: Jonathan: BBBBBUUUUTTTTT….. MUH TRUMP!!!!!

      Dennis is now claiming that Trump is so failed as a businessman that he isn’t actually a businessman, and instead a pauper like Dennis. Trump’s homes like Mar-a-logo, his personal jets, his golf courses, etc don’t actually exist. Trump is actually penniless and broke – it’s all a charade.

      Unless of course, Dennis is a Cheap Deep Fake American Communist.

      1. “Trump is actually penniless and broke – it’s all a charade.”

        If it is a charade (extremely doubtful) how would one distinguish the benefits conferred on Trump thereby from the real thing?

    4. Dennis – overall I am not a proponent of Tarriffs. Trade defficits reduce the sales of US products in foreign countries but the increase foreign investment in the US. Politicians like to fixate on Trade deficits or Surpluses, but in economic terms their actual impact is small.

      At the same time Tarriffs are not a “the sky is falling” event. Trump’s Tarriffs are no higher than the Tarriffs that country imposes on the US,
      Did the rest of the world go bankrupt as a result of their tariffs.

      Most of the world operated with high tariffs through the 19th century, it was the primary way that government was funded.

      I do not think Trump’s Tariffs will last long enough to become a major source of Tax Revenue for the federal govenrment.
      I expect most foreign governments to capitulate quickly.
      The laws of supply and demand dictate that Tariffs on foreign goods will reduce demand for foreign goods immediately.
      That is EXACTLY What Trump wants, Americans to slow their purchases of foreign products immediately.
      The impact on already weak economies around the world will be massive. The impact on the US of less purchases of foreign goods will be small.
      But the long term impact of Tariffs on foreign countries is the more serious problem. Anheiser Bush never recovered the sales it last as a result of the Dylan Mulvaney Fiasco. The longer these Tariffs are arround the less more likely US buyer preferences will change permanently.
      The longer the tariffs are around the more likely US companies will replace foreign products. The longer the Tariffs are arround the more likely foreign companies are to move production to the US. Increasing US production for some products takes years, others can occur in months.
      But again – those changes tend to become permanent.

      If foreign countries do not react quickly and cut their tariffs in return for lower US Tariffs the negative impacts on THEIR economies becomes permanent.

      At the same time cutting Tariffs to get the US to lower Tariffs is a major problem for many countries as they are dependent on the revenue from Tariffs and their industry is dependent on the protection provided by tariffs.

      Both will also eventually become True in the US if these Tariffs last long – the Federal Government will become dependent on the revenue, and US companies will be dependent on the protection from foreign competition.

      The best possible result is for all governments to eliminate all tariffs entirely or to reduce them to a very low and uniform level.
      That would be especially good for the US.

      But the next best result would be for new Tariffs to become permanent. That will cause foreign companies to move production to the US, US companies to expand US production, some increase in Federal revenues.

      With respect to Trump businesses or Trump products.
      Buy – don’t. Your choice. No one is forcing you to do anything.

      I would note that the Trump Casino’s were not owned by Trump when then went Bankrupt – they were owned by others who licensed the Trump name. Trump Sued and won to have his name removed as they were failing.

      I am not seeing any evidence of US businesses laying people off – why would they ? Tarriffs on FOREIGN goods mean more sales of US goods.
      US Jobs report was 228,000 jobs added in March – businesses KNEW that Tarriffs were coming at that time. Also the China Canada and Mexico Tarriffs were already in place.

      GM announced it was HIRING yesterday.

      OPEC agreed to significantly increase Oil driving the price of oil down to $70/bbl they did this specifically in response to Tarriffs and it is driving the price of gasoline down further. Lower oil prices also weaken Russia and strengthen Trump’s peace negotiating position.

      The stock market will sort things out eventually, again unless you are a day trader why do you care ?

      Foreign businesses and countries are already flooding the phones to try to make a deal with Trump.

      https://tippinsights.com/hello-tariffs-my-friend-trumps-trade-weapon-delivers-early-results/

    5. Dennis: thanks. You left off a few listed below. Some of the real estate ventures were announced but fell through:

      Go Trump Airline
      Trump Mortgages
      Trump Ice
      Trump Winery
      Trump Cologne
      Trump Tower Tampa
      Trump So Ho Hotel
      Trump Marina
      World’s Fair at Trump Tower
      Trump Tower New Orleans
      Trump Tower Palm Beach
      Trump Tower Charlotte

      Trump University had to pay out $25 million in fraud payments to victims. Trump Foundation was shut down because he was stealing the charitable contributions and using them to finance his campaign.

      1. Gigi: Yeah, I left a lot of other DJT failed business ventures. I wanted to leave room for you! We should also mention DJT’s failed hotel/ condo venture in Panama City. He got kicked out by the new owners who found DJT allowed narco-syndicates to operate in the apartments and condos. DJT was livid when the Panamanian government backed the new owners. I think DJT has harbored a personal hatred of Panama’s govt. ever since and that explains why he wants to take back the Canal. For DJT it’s always about vengeance–getting back at his personal enemies.

    6. Dennis several people have noted the announcements by various foreign and US companies of new production plans in the US.

      Those of you on the left fail to grasp that Trump has the ability to bypass foreign governments entirely on Trade negotiations.
      He can negotiate directly with international companies.

      So J&J agrees to move significant production to the US – something that may take many months or a year to complete.
      In return Trump cuts or eliminates Tariffs on J&J NOW. Europe can retain its tariffs on US drugs, but Trump will not care because significant production will have moved to the US.

      That is just one of many scenarios.

      Trump’s big claim to fame is as a deal maker.

      He has just put himself into the cat bird seat to make deals accross the world.

      He can negotiate with countries, he can negotiate with foreign companies.

      You are predicting Doom and gloom. As I have noted before – you may be right, and if you are, Trump will be impeached and removed with republicans support.

      This is a big play on Trump’s part.

      You beleive Trump will fail catastrophically, and you have repeatedly been willing to accept disasterous outcomes for the american people – if that gets rid of Trump.

      Well here is your chance. If Trump actually causes a depression or a significant recession – you will get your wish.

      But if Trump gets what he expects out of these tariffs – YOU may face the prospect of the american people demanding a repeals of the 22nd amendment provisions preventing Trump from having a 3rd term.

      Trump is playing poker with the world, and he is doing so with a deck stacked in his favor.

      And YOU keep betting against him.

      You rant about his alleged failures.

      In 1982 Trump AND his father had a combined net worth of
      $200M. Today Trump is worth $5.1B and has over 800m in liquid assests – despite your idiotic lawfare in NYC.
      That “despite” all of the failures you allege.

      If as you claim Trump has “failed”, “Please Sir can I have more ?”

      1. Two days BEFORE Trump announced his stupid tariffs, I had already lost almost $50 K in my stock investments–BECAUSE OF TRUMP. I’m afraid to call my broker since the stock market keeps setting new loss records. Investors are smarter than Trump and they can see the big picture down the road for where the economy is headed. Trump is, and always has been, a liar and a failure–just look at the long list of business failures and bankruptcies. He squandered the wealth he inherited. All of his claims about his “worth” are lies–maybe you conveniently forgot or didn’t pay attention to the litigation involving Trump misrepresenting his assets in order to borrow more money and at a more favorable rate than he would qualify for if he hadn’t lied. He tripled the square footage of his apartment–to triple the value as an asset against which to borrow money–square footage is something that can be objectively measured. No reasonable, respected economist believes that the tariffs will do anthing other than what they have done in the past–raise prices, cause inflation and a recession, which we are in store for–and, it’s a self-inflicted wound all because of the ego of a stupid, narcissistic sociopathic liar who has said he “doesn’t care” what happens to the investment accounts of Americans. He just loves to bully people and push around others. And, he just can’t stop lying about who pays the tariffs–it’s not the government of the country of origin–it is the party who ordered the goods–they pay–for instance: Wal- Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc.. They pass along the increased cost to American consumers, so no matter how many times the dumb bottle blondie “press secretary” tries to claim that the country of origin pays–it is the importer who pays. We would have no way to force China, Canada, Mexico or any other country to pay tariffs, which are nothing but a sales tax. When the goods arrive at the port of entry–the party who ordered them pays the tariffs. Tariffs PUNISH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Even Repubicans admit that the tariffs will cause the average American family to pay thousands more every year just to maintain their current standard of living. And, imposing tariffs will not force companies to immediately start building factories in the US. Most, if not all, of the announcements about new factories were in the planning stage when Biden was in office–and many of them may never come to pass, especially if the recession that appears to be on the horizon happens.

        1. Giggles, you are not fooling anyone. You claim to be a lawyer, yet find yourself working shifts as a nurse–YEARS on this blog, before Trump allegedly affected you. Either profession should have been more than adequate for your finances. YOU obviously screwed up somewhere…. (fired? sued? Simply rejected for your name-blaming?) Grow up gigi. Stop the name game because your problems and negativity started WAY before Trump was around.

        2. If you are soooo much smarter then Trump, why didnt you get out of the stock market before the tariffs? Before the COVID lockdowns, I pulled all our money out of the stock market and put it into a money market fund. I dodged a 16% loss. I then called bottom and got back in. I finished that year up 23%. Stupid people like you are crying about the short term loss. Smart people look at the long term. This is a buying opportunity. Two, three years from now, your portfolio could be much better. I am looking at realigning mine with American Mid and Large Cap stocks.

      1. Are you refuting something in particular about those allegation (which seem to be well founded and researched)? If so, let’s have the details. If not (my suspicion) STFU.

        1. Refute? No calling it a lie. That someone can be so gullible.
          If you think that it “seem(s)” makes the case, then you are just as gullible.
          In any case, do your own research. If not, would recommend the same of you.

          1. Saying “You believe that dump?” is not exactly an argument in response to someone’s factual allegations. Do you have any more than that? I suspect not, as you would already have told us if you did.

  5. Oh get over it. The road we’re on is a Bankrupt one, in fact most of the Western World is on a Bankrupt one.
    Socially and Fiscally, So yeah, Trump has little choice to do things to make corrections.
    His approach is to start shoring up things around Home. That includes; getting Greenland, getting Central America, and Canada (the North American Continent)
    rounded up into a secure Zone. The Countries within the North American zone should realize that this is an opportunity to secure their well-being.

    The Tariffs are part of the process of securing the financial viability of Zone. NAFTA was purely an Industrial Agreement, Trump is building a Continental Constitutional- State. (The United States of North America). Understand that opportunity. It is a broader vision that encompasses the People of these lands.

    So wake up & get onboard, We are going to make North America Great For All. This isn’t Trump Koolaid it what needs to be done to solve some of the problems we are facing now and in the immediate future.

    The Soros-Brzezinski-Neo-Lib Dems got it wrong, instead of focusing on breaking Russia into pieces, We should be building Our own land mass into a vast Continental Country, that which to match Russia. Russia will crumble under it’s own weight. Proof is it needs B.R.I.C.s to survive, without it, it dies.

    It’s obvious what the Game plan is and should be. So get over Yourself (the TDS) and get in the game.

    1. What? America is no longer a countty? You sound like a globalist. That ends in enslavement of humans. LLL across the globe. I doubt Putin goes for that! His momma raised him as Christian – and so he is. The holy Ghost works on him. Daily! There is no way or path for USA for greenland nor Canada a state – let alone a global cabal or third term! Russia – won’t allow it – to be enslaved! Those ppl have more notion of you Mr “just accept it”. You must be a liizzard! decent pple would not accept it – they would fight! What could they lose? You accept that ppl would fold in the end without a fight? Doubtful! your a lizzard!

  6. Jonathan: No one thought DJT was really serious about imposing draconian tariffs on very country in the world. But he did that yesterday and for no reason. So we have to take DJT at his word. Every dictator tries to stay in power. The Orangeman is no exception. He actually thinks God spared his life so he can rule forever. In his EOs and other actions DJT is trying to lay the predicate for holding onto power beyond 2028. If DJT thinks he can, by the stroke of his magic marker, abolish birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment, what makes you think he won’t try the same thing with the 22nd Amendment?

    But you Q why DJT would sacrifice his “legacy” by trying to hold onto power when “his administration is set to make history with sweeping changes that continue to garner considerable support among the public”. What “support” are you possible talking about? The DJT/Musk/DOGE chainsaw cuts to many social programs, the firing of thousands of government workers are opposed by a vast majority of Americans as shown in the polls. DJT is taking a wrecking ball to the economy with his insane tariffs which will cause a lot of pain to American businesses and consumers and a possible depression. That will be DJT’s real “legacy”–not the one you imagine!

    1. “No one thought DJT was really serious about imposing draconian tariffs on very country in the world.”
      Do you live in the real world ?
      The left railed about these Tarrifs for months.

      Trump has been pretty clear to the world – the Tarrifs will happen and they will remain in place as long as the US faces similar tarrifs from other countries.

      Besset said today that so long as other countries do NOT retailiate – current tarrifs are the CEILING, that the tarriffs will go down as our trading partners negotiate to reduce their tarriffs against the US. We are already seeing some evidence of that, just as we are seeing a few nations threaten retaliatory tarriffs

      Regardless – the FACT is almost no one though Trump was NOT serious.
      YOU have railed about it constantly.

      ” But he did that yesterday and for no reason.”
      Trump was clear on the reasons
      To raise revenue to reduce the US debt
      To address the fact that other nations have high Tarriffs on US goods reducing our ability to export to those countries.

      The reasons are clear.

      New Tarriffs were not imposed on Mexico and Canada.
      Those tarriffs were imposed last month.
      In addition to the reasons above,
      Those are to get Mexico and Canada to act to reduce the flow of Fentanyl into the US, and to better secure their side of the border.

      “So we have to take DJT at his word.”
      You need to learn to take Trump seriously but not litterally.
      Trump supporters have been doing that since 2016 and they do not get surprised by Trump – as you do constantly.
      And they do not suffer from TDS

      “Every dictator tries to stay in power.”
      Possibly, but Trump is not a dictator, and only a moron thinks he is.
      He is following the constitution and the law,
      And he is following the court orders of Judges who idiotically think he is not – while pushing appeals that he will win.

      “He actually thinks God spared his life”
      Correct, so do many many others.
      I am pretty sure god does not work that way,
      but that has never stopped people from beleiving god does.

      “In his EOs and other actions DJT is trying to lay the predicate for holding onto power beyond 2028. ”
      There is nothing in his EO’s about “holding power”. The next president and there will be a different president in 2029 can keep his EO’s or get rid of them.

      “if DJT thinks he can, by the stroke of his magic marker, abolish birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment”
      He can’t and frankly he knows he can’t, the EO has no effect regardless and it is one of very few that SCOTUS will not uphold.

      “what makes you think he won’t try the same thing with the 22nd Amendment?”
      If Trump had the power to remain in office – he likely would.

      But he does not have that power.
      The lefts efforts to remove him from the ballot in 2024 were lawfare and shot down.
      But he will not get on the ballot in 2028, even SCOTUS would not allow that if he tried and he wont.

      The means that Turley notes for Trump to try to become president in 2029 require many other people to run for president, and vice president, to win those elections and to then resign. That is not going to happen.

      What is more interesting is how terrified you are that it might happen.

      While there are so many things that would have to happen for Trump to serve another term the first and most important is that he would have to succeed incredibly well this time.
      He would have to bring peace to the world,
      bring prosperity to the US.
      Balance the budget,
      Cut government spending.
      …..

      Most americans strongly hope that he is able to do that.

      But you don’t. You want him and the country to fail.

      Are you incapable of understanding that your fears are impossible unless Trump is incredibly successful as president,
      something you keep telling us all will not happen.

      You do not beleive your own lies.
      Why should you expect anyone else to ?

      “But you Q why DJT would sacrifice his “legacy” by trying to hold onto power when “his administration is set to make history with sweeping changes that continue to garner considerable support among the public”.”
      Weird nonsense. Again there is absolutely no possibility of Trump getting a thrid term – not even the most remote possibility, unless he is incredibly successful.

      “What “support” are you possible talking about?”
      Even democrat polls are showing Trump with stronger support than any president has has since 2004.

      “The DJT/Musk/DOGE chainsaw cuts to many social programs”
      That would be cutting waste fraud and abuse.
      Like Trans opera’s in Columbia.

      “the firing of thousands of government workers are opposed by a vast majority of Americans as shown in the polls.”
      What are you smoking ?

      “DJT is taking a wrecking ball to the economy with his insane tariffs which will cause a lot of pain to American businesses and consumers and a possible depression.”
      If you are correct Trmp will be impeached with the full support of the GOP.
      How much do you want to bet that does not happen ?

      BTW No Trump tarrif is higher than the tarriffs the rest of the world imposes on the US.

      Why are these tarriffs insane for the US but not for the EU ?

      “That will be DJT’s real “legacy”–not the one you imagine!”
      I guess we will all have to see.
      How well have you done betting against Trumps success so far ?

      1. “The left railed about these Tarrifs for months. ”

        I suspect that many of the fools on the left deluded themselves into believing that it was a rhetorical discussion…

    2. Dennis,
      What bubble do you live in? Have you tried to buy anything made in America lately? The “world is flat” corporate rape of U.S. industry has been occurring for decades. The corporate raiders have sold out American workers.

      So, as a Democrat, do you support shipping our jobs to sweatshops and Chinese concentration camps where slave labor makes our things? I thought we were over that after the Civil War. When did the Democratic Party declare a war on American workers and made in America products?

      Our so called friends have been hosing U.S. trade unfairly. This is a gutsy move and one that had to happen.

      Regarding birthright citizenship, according to your theory, a terrorist can sneak into our country to blow up a building, and if he brings his wife and children, they can become one big happy American family. How bizarre!

      The birthright citizenship will be heard before the Supreme Court.

      Regarding tariffs, deals will be made and American workers will be offered real job growth.

      If we do nothing but stay on the previous trajectory, there will be default and disaster. If this new position fails it will be much the same. If it succeeds, and it just might, we all win.

      That is really the issue with the TDS crowd. They would rather America fail rather than see the President of the United States succeed. That my friend defines the radical, unhinged left.

      1. Birthright Citizenship is in the process of being corrected by Congress (HR 569).

        SCOTUS would smartly steer the plaintiffs to the legislative process going on across the street by ordering the District Court to dismiss the lawsuit with prejudice.

        It is not the Judiciary’s or Exec’s role to define Citizenship policy, it is for Congress to do.

        You have to understand The Civil Rights Act of 1866 to correctly interpret the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause. Again, because Congress legislates Citizenship policy, not SCOTUS.

        See Article I, Section 8.

      2. E.M.
        Well said. Companies have committed real money in building new factories here in America. What are Democrats going to run on in 2028? We will undo all the things Trump did! We will off shore all those good paying jobs Trump brought here with his tariffs! That sounds like a winning campaign.

  7. Mommy, Fox News isn’t a communist propaganda machine like every other MSM outlet. It’s making me cry. 😢 Make it go away mommy.

  8. The media couldn’t help itself by highlighting the ridiculous. Trump must relish their foolishness. However, it is sad how gullible some of the public is in giving credence to the matter.

    1. That is such a specific comment, I know exactly what nuance you’re talking about. Gee, thanks for explaining in detail what in the actual f–k you’re referring to.

      P.S. The media is indeed foolish, and Trump does relish it. What American with a pulse wouldn’t?

    2. “it is sad how gullible some of the public is in giving credence to the matter.”

      Considering the huge quantities of absolutely fetid garbage that large segments of that public swallow as proven fact (usually begging for more) prior to any election, how much of a surprise can that be?

  9. Who on this post actually believes that Jonathan Turley’s daily blog posts are independent from a well respected constitutional George Washington Law Professor and not influenced by his large contract with FOX news to push their views

    Just looking for a your thoughts

      1. What was your question on the comment.

        Funny that asking if this was from an independent news journalist or someone paid by Fox is ridiculous is a very weird comment. Keep trying

        Just remember when you watch Fox News you know it’s Fox. When you read this blog Jonathon is under contract by Fox but doesn’t say “paid for by Fox “

        1. This is his blog. It has nothing to do with Fox. If you disagree then give some evidence.

          1. Ha. He, mister free speech, deleted many of our colleagues posts over the last several days

            1. He has a very, very large contract with FOX today to be a paid pundit.

              How did you find out how “large” this contract with Fox is? He told you, because you’re a close personal friend like Dennis McIntyre is? You saw the contract? He published the amount somewhere? And what is your baseline for “very, very, large”? $100 each time? More?

              Bigger than yours from CNN/the Democrats (but of course, I repeat myself) to come here and post?

              Is there a reason you appear to have avoided mentioning his contracts with The Hill and other media outlets that presumably he is also paid for? You didn’t mention them because he doesn’t actually get paid for his opinion pieces there?

              Or perhaps you thought it would cloud the issue if people asked you if there was a clause in his Fox contract that required that whatever he published in other media outlets could not conflict with anything he he did earlier or later at Fox?

            1. He has a very, very large contract with FOX today to be a paid pundit.

              How did you find out how “large” this contract with Fox is? He told you, because you’re a close personal friend like Dennis McIntyre is? You saw the contract? He published the amount somewhere? And what is your baseline for “very, very, large”? $100 each time? More?

              Bigger than yours from CNN/the Democrats (but of course, I repeat myself) to come here and post?

              Is there a reason you appear to have avoided mentioning his contracts with The Hill and other media outlets that presumably he is also paid for? You didn’t mention them because he doesn’t actually get paid for his opinion pieces there?

              Or perhaps you thought it would cloud the issue if people asked you if there was a clause in his Fox contract that required that whatever he published in other media outlets could not conflict with anything he he did earlier or later at Fox?

      2. Really. The ask is to make sure that the LISTENERS of this blog know that its writer, Jonathon Turley, is paid to write
        his “opinions “ by Fox is ridiculous is actually super important. He should every day post “paid for
        By FOX” in his blog posts

        Any thoughts on this???

        1. What is important is whether Turley is correct.

          Everyone has biases.
          There are two important questions
          Do those biases lead them towards truth ? So far those on the left have not.
          What do people do when truth and their biases are at odds ? Again the left constantly fails that test.

          Fox pays Turley and people listen to Turley,
          Because his opinions have value – they are correct a great deal of the time.

          Only sychophants would follow Turley if he was always wrong.

      3. Are you thinking it’s ridiculous ask this question??????? Would a persons bias but not apparent mean anything to you

    1. ATS – who is paying you to write this garbage – they should demand their money back.

      Regardless, why do you care ?

      I am an architect, and a software engineer, many many people pay me for my professional opinion.
      If I tell them what they want to hear, I might do well for a bit, but as following my oppinion fails over and over, they will quit hiring me or paying me.

      Like Turley ultimately I am paid for being RIGHT.

      Fox may play to a right leaning base – but most of them will go away if Fox is not RIGHT most of the time.
      The MSM operates under the same constraints – and they have been wrong so frequently they have had massive loss of viewers.

      Most people do not beleive you for long for saying what they want to hear.
      They continue to beleive you – because you prove to be right over and over.

    2. He writes so many columns mocking leftist antics at a time when the Dems are totally out of power, and rarely applies critical thinking to tough legal issues being decided daily by the WH. That skewed focus makes me think he has largely given up legal analysis for fear of offending those currently in power, and gone to the safer political infotainment format — mocking the powerless, thrashing left.

      Has he taken a stance on TikTok ownership? On Hamas reaching into our country to propagandize the minds of our youth? On CIA retirees getting involved in PsyOps to tilt a Presidential election? Domestic terrorists releasing the names and addresses of Tesla owners? These are all “free speech” excesses where the perpetrators are justifying political infowarfare based on free speech rights. Crickets from our expert and recent author on the subject.

      In other words, this column could be so much more if JT could muster some gravitas.

  10. Are you a well respected independent professor of constitutional law at George Washington University or are you a paid pundit for FOX news and Elon Musk? Maybe the world wants to know this!!

    1. He’s a respected independent professor. Because he’s independent, and not a left-wing shill, you ask stupid questions like the one above.

          1. Well good. Glad you know that he is paid to spout the Fox words.

            I assume the world thinks that’s independent

            1. I assume the world thinks that’s independent

              I assume you have a naive belief that you have cleverly disguised yourself as an independent commenter, not a paid apparatchik to spout the words and hysteria from the Democrat Borg. Is his Fox paycheck bigger than yours from CNN/the Democrats (but of course, I repeat myself) to come here and post?

              Is there a reason you appear to have avoided mentioning his contracts with The Hill and other media outlets that presumably he is also paid for? You didn’t mention them because he doesn’t actually get paid for his opinion pieces there?

              Or perhaps you thought it would cloud the issue if people asked you if there was a clause in his Fox contract that required that whatever he published in other media outlets could not conflict with anything he he did earlier or later at Fox?

      1. You don’t know about his contract with Fox News, sir/madam. He has had it for years

        Does that change your thoughts ?

        1. I’ve seen him give his legal opinions on various different news shows, including Fox. I’m not so shallow as to judge those comments by the news outlet he speaks on. Rather, I judge his comments by their content.

        2. You don’t know about his contract with Fox News, sir/madam. He has had it for years

          While you cosplay as being an independent commentator (rather than a shill for CNN/Democrats), supposedly completely unaware that your host here ALSO has contracts for articles and appearances at other news media outlets. Just as you cosplay as now being a woman after transitioning.

          Would you like to attempt to change our opinion of you as a CNN/Democrat shill by providing your excuse for why you worked so hard to avoid mentioning Professor Turley is also paid by other news media outlets for his opinions?

          Surely you don’t hope we will assume you just forgot to mention that in all your repeated posts about the fact one of those who pays him for his opinions is Fox?

          Or would you prefer to go BBBBBBUUUUTTTTT…. MUH FOX!!!!!! BBBBBBUUUUTTTTT….. MUH TURLEY!!!!!

        1. Go back and look as his last 365 days worth of posts and see if he is paid or not paid. It’s very obvious!

          1. Go back and look as his last 365 days worth of posts and see if he is paid or not paid. It’s very obvious!

            Including the ones that come from his articles in other news media outlets like The Hill?

            Are you so CNN/Democrat naive that you don’t have the slightest clue from his articles here that he is ALSO paid by various other news media outlets?

            The Hill, for example: are they on the same political level you assign with your repeated BBBUTTTTTT…. MUH FOX!!!! You’re going to attempt to pull off ignorance of his regular appearances there?

            Tell us why we should be okay with you cosplaying your “independence” from the Democrat – CNN/MSNBC/NBC Marxist Media Propaganda Complex?

        2. Every news outlet has paid contributors. They pay people for their time. Same as any other gig in our gig economy. Are you suggesting that with all the news outlets in the world, every paid contributor is doing nothing more than reading a script written by the editors at that outlet? I think that would be a difficult argument to make.

          1. Jonathan. I have no problem with you being a paid pundit by FOX but your blog does not say every day that this blog and your thoughts are paid by FOX every day.

            1. Jonathan. I have no problem with you being a paid pundit by FOX but your blog does not say every day that this blog and your thoughts are paid by FOX every day.

              Ah! Is that you Dennis McIntyre? Or his twin sister – a Democrat Birthing Person, ALSO a friend of Professor Turley’s, also on a first name basis? You truly believe that BBBBUUUTTTT…. MUH FOX!!!! also pays Professor Turley for his work that regularly appears at The Hill and other media outlets?

              You believe you have enough credibility to successfully pull off cosplaying as not being a paid pundit, appearing here to shill the thoughts and opposition from the Democrat/CNN Borg?

          2. yes you’re right. But none of it is news. It’s as you personally know news is news’s the rest is paid pundits. News is news. Option is is paid. And you’re paid.

        3. Are you ok that his “independence” is also paid by a Fox News Contract?

          Are you so CNN/Democrat naive that you don’t have the slightest clue from his articles here that he is ALSO paid by various other news media outlets?

          The Hill, for example: are they on the same political level you assign with your repeated BBBUTTTTTT…. MUH FOX!!!! You’re going to attempt to pull off ignorance of his regular appearances there?

          Tell us why we should be okay with you cosplaying your “independence” from the Democrat – CNN/MSNBC/NBC Marxist Media Propaganda Complex?

  11. Markets crash. Trump says everything is going great. Trump supporters believe him. Trump could tell them their poo is delicious chocolate ice cream and they’d savor every bite.

    1. Trump could tell them their poo is delicious chocolate ice cream and they’d savor every bite.

      Elected Democrats and the media told you that The Oval Office House Plant was the sharpest guy in the room, working his young staff to death while they had the Autopen working overtime. You believed that because they told you that you could swallow the Democrat/Media shyte, as long as you picked it up and ate it by the clean end.

  12. In 2024 one of the problems with the Democrat brand was their focus on niche issues like gender identity. As a party they are not trying to remedy that image. This is not a good look for them – walking out of the statehouse to protest a bill putting an end to taxpayer funding of sex-change operations for prisoners:

    https://dailycallernewsfoundation.org/2025/04/02/georgia-democrats-walk-out-in-support-of-taxpayer-funded-sex-changes-for-inmates/

    It is stunts like this that will slow down the recovery of their image in the minds of the American people – if it ever takes place, which looks less likely with each passing day.

  13. OT:

    Journalist Matt Taibbi files a $10 M libel lawsuit in NJ Federal Court against CA Democrat Rep Sydney Kamlager-Dove. She was stupid enough to make her remarks public on social media….twice.

    Democrats are like an STD: they are the “gift” that keep on giving

    A Response to a Member of Congress

    Sydney Kamlager-Dove, a Democrat representing California’s 37th district in Los Angeles, began her opening remarks in a House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee hearing Tuesday with a comment directed to me. “To distract from the dumpster fire this administration is pursuing,” she said, the Republicans were “elevating a serial sexual harrasser as their star witness.”

    Right after the hearing, she re-tweeted the comment on X and BlueSky, writing, “After this, Republicans gave Matt Taibbi time to defend himself. It’s telling that he didn’t.”

    […]

    One can however respond to a member arrogant enough to repeat those claims on social media. I’ve now done so, in the form of a $10 million libel lawsuit filed today in a New Jersey federal court:

    ….Rep. Kamlager-Dove, no woman has ever accused me of engaging in sexual harrassment once, let alone serially. See you in court. Please do not evade service.

    https://www.racket.news/p/a-response-to-a-member-of-congress

    The lawsuit is provided on Matt’s website as a PDF for download

    1. She’s just annoyed because she’s never been sexually harassed. A case of beer wouldn’t be enough….

    1. I would say it’s wrong but clever. The NY Times has figured it out:

      https://archive.is/reYid

      The president’s comments deflect attention from other controversies. And they freeze the field of potential successors who might steal the spotlight from a lame duck.

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