The New York Times continues to work tirelessly to maintain the narrative that the United States is now a fascist regime. Earlier, the Times demonstrated its view of balanced analysis by running a collection of legal opinions titled “A Road Map to Trump’s Lawless Presidency.” Now, it is featuring three Yale professors fleeing fascism for the safety of Canada, making direct references to the rise of the Nazis. The video is titled “These Yale Professors Study Fascism.”
All three professors are going permanently to Canada to teach at the University of Toronto. It appears that the systemic rollback of free speech for conservatives in Canada is not a deterrent for Yale professors longing to be free.
The seven-minute opinion video features the three scholars: Yale philosophy Professor Jason Stanley and history professors Marci Shore and Timothy Snyder (who are married).
Shore insisted that the United States is now a fascist country replicating the Nazi takeover. Indeed, she mocks those of us who believe that our constitutional system has proven itself for centuries as a guarantor of civil liberties, including our system of checks and balances. Shore dismisses such assurances while suggesting that the American people are a virtual ship of fools in not recognizing the fascists all around them: “The lesson of 1933 is that you get out sooner rather than later.” She added that Americans are
“like people on the Titanic saying, ‘Our ship can’t sink.’ We’ve got the best ship. We’ve got the strongest ship. We’ve got the biggest ship. Our ship can’t sink,” she said. “And what you know as a historian is that there is no such thing as a ship that can’t sink.”
Professor Snyder declared that Americans are deluding themselves:
“If you think there is this thing out there called ‘America,’ and it’s exceptional, that means that you don’t have to do anything. Whatever is happening, it must be freedom. Soon, you are using the word freedom, what you are talking about is authoritarianism.”
The New York Times splices in ominous images of migrants being detained, children crying, and anti-Israel protesters being arrested. It also shows the image of Elon Musk’s alleged Nazi salute, a ridiculous claim fostered by the media.
Previously, Snyder did interviews claiming an oligarchic conspiracy led by Musk:
“we’re shifting from a democracy, which had some pretty heavy oligarchical streaks running through it, toward something like an oligarchy, in which I think it’s fair to say that it’s not Trump who’s the most important person. It’s Musk. Trump has debts. Musk has money. Trump has debts specifically to Musk for getting him elected. And I think the burden of proof is actually on Trump to show that he has any room for maneuver in this system. And it’s going to be interesting to see how congressional Republicans react, because what this particular oligarch wants is to break the federal government. And whatever their views might be, not — many of them don’t actually want the United States of America to cease to exist so that oligarchs can pick up the pieces.”
That is who the New York Times featured in its latest apocalyptic diatribe. What is interesting about one interview is how Snyder predicts Trump will engage in censorship through litigation, noting that it will not involve direct censorship barred by the First Amendment. He entirely ignores the massive censorship system of conservatives fostered by the Biden Administration on social media. That was apparently not something that you would speak out against, let alone leave the country over.
Professor Stanley’s past contributions to the political debate include his condemnation of “the right-wing hateosphere” in a diatribe that he later reaffirmed:
I am really, truly, embarrassed by the fact that my mild comment ‘F[**]k those assholes’ is being spread. This wildly understates my actual sentiments towards homophobic religious proponents of evil like Richard Swinburne, who use their status as professional philosophers to oppress others with less power. I am SO SORRY for using such mild language.
In the New York Times video, Stanley clinically explains that “you know you’re living in a fascist society when you’re constantly going over in your head the reasons why you’re safe. What we want is a country where none of us have to feel that way.”
It is a curious statement. Most of us fight to preserve our civil liberties to maintain a country that remains the longest, most stable, and most successful constitutional system in history. We do not dramatically pick up our things and stomp out of the country in a self-aggrandizing huff.
Losing elections can certainly make some “feel that way,” but for the rest of the country, it seemed like democracy at work. In the meantime, our courts are sorting out challenges to Trump executive orders, with many judges, including Trump appointees, ruling against the Administration. Those are the pesky “checks and balances” that Professor Shore blissfully dismissed in the New York Times video.
What is truly striking is that even Yale (which has purged virtually all conservatives from its faculty ranks) is not sufficiently “safe” for these three academic émigrés. They are going to the University of Toronto and Ontario to feel truly safe.
Of course, Ontario is not viewed as a safe space for many conservatives or contrarians. It proved hardly protective for University of Toronto professor emeritus Jordon Peterson when he was ordered to take mandatory training classes to curb his controversial writings. That order was upheld by successive Canadian courts.
So now these three academics will relocate to Toronto to teach Canadian students about fascism. They may, however, want to tread lightly on the subject of free speech.
Fascists decrying Fascism! Do Liberals have any moral compass (?) at all? They hate themselves so!
These virtue signaling leftists announce this on social media, apparently believing that the normal people – non progressives – will actually will be disappointed. For the love of God, please force all of your leftist/socialist co-conspirators at Yale to come with you.
They won’t have to live in fear of being ordered to attend the fascists re-education camps that Jordan Peterson was forced to attend. No further indoctrination is required for those who are already indoctrinated. I once had an acquaintance who was a Teacher who posted on Facebook that she had studied fascism and this is the direction in which we are headed. I explained to her that it was fascist who took Jews into the woods in Poland, stripped them naked in the dead of winter and shot every one of them, men woman and children in the back of the head. It took two days to complete the carnage. I then asked her if this is what she meant to say about Trump. She took down her post. Perhaps a better course for my acquaintance to have studied would have been Psychologically with a minor in group derangement syndromes. She could volunteer as a case study along with her friends that have moved to Canada. The important thing is to be a member of the club dontcha know?
“in the back of the head. It took two days to complete the carnage. I then asked her if this is what she meant to say about Trump. She took down her post.”
TiT, you did a great job.
Thanks S. Meyer. The story was from the book Ordinary Men recommended by Jordan Peterson. Calling people fascist and Nazis without really understanding what the Nazis did is both ignorant and infantile. To a Jew making such a comparison diminishes the horror of what happened simply for political purposes. The word shame is an understatement.
Or could it be that what they are saying today is an over-reaction similar to the over-reaction about pre-WW II Germany? After all, Meyer Levin did write most of “The Diary of Anne Frank”, camps were bombed and supply lines were cut by the Allies, etc.
Start looking at just ending all federal funding for higher ed, period. Get em out of US academia. If doors need closed to get em gone, close em.
Fully agreed with the Yale professors, Turls. And fully entertained by your ‘look Squirrel ‘ deflection. It’d be fun to dig up the writings of pro Nazi lawyers at the advent of the third Reich and run them side by side with this trashy push piece you’ve put up, Jon. Yup, this is who you’ve grown up to be.
Lol, congratulations. You’ve posted the single dumbest comment I’ve read on the internet this year. Impressive.
MV,
It is what that loser does. He posts stupid comments, tries to smear the good professor and fails. Then runs away, like the loser he is.
The real story; these 3 yale professors were more than likely laid off since they can no longer defraud the us taxpayer with exhorbitant Grant prices and without that money had to be on the list of professorts to cut? where do 3 liberals go? ah yes, thats right, get jobs in socialist canada
Well then you are leaving right? You pathetic creep.
The pro Nazi lawyers called for the elimination of free speech just like you Anonymous. I have written that you must be a seventeen years old but then I remember that you have admitted that you are a government employee working at Langley who just thinks like a seventeen years old. Recently you let us know that you are being laid off because you set at your government job and post on the Turley blog all day every day. What we have here is living proof that government waste and fraud is alive and well in the swamp. Thank your for enlightening us Anonymous.
Make sense – Communist professors start the fires at Yale and then run to Communist Canada once found out.
ALL HAIL KING ORANGUTAN AND QUEEN MELANOMA. LONG MAY THEY REIGN IN HELL.
Pithy?
Maybe for third graders.
um im sure he will make the liberal commies life hell on earth as well. There is no such thing as a good communist
Jonathan: While we await your Saturday column perhaps we should recap DJT’ trip to the Middle East. The first Q is why did the Trumpster choose Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE for his first trip abroad? Why not first go to Canada, the UK or somewhere in the EU–try to repair his broken relations with those countries? Only one problem. Those countries have immigration laws prohibiting entry of a “convicted felon”. To get into those countries DJT would have to ask for a waiver and the optics could prove embarrassing.
No, DJT chose the Middle East countries because he feels more comfortable hanging out with authoritarians leaders. In Saudi Arabia DJT praised Crown Prince bin Salman as the guy “I like too much”. MBS is the guy DJT and Jared Kushner protected during DJT’s first term from credible charges MBS ordered the assassination and dismemberment of Washington DC journalist and Saudi dissident Kamal Khashoggi. That’s the guy DJT likes “too much”.
There is another reason DJT chose Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE. He has personal business ventures in each of these countries. In Saudi Arabia it’s the joint LIV Golf Tournament and a new Trump Tower in Jetta. In Qatar it’s the crypto joint venture and the planned Trump Hotel and Tower. In the UAE it’s a new planned Trump Resort. All of these joint ventures will put billions in DJT’s pocket. Naturally, DJT wanted to check up on the progress of these projects.
Then, of course, there is the little matter of “Qatar Air Force One”, the $400 million “flying palace” the Qatar royal family wants to give DJT free of charge. DJT and AG Pam Blondie see no problem with that bribe, even though the gift is a clear violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution. Violating the Constitution has never been a problem for the dictator.
So the vast corruption by DJT in 2.0 is open and blatant. Yet, you have so far decided not to write a single column about this “influence peddling” scheme. You spent four years complaining about the Biden fame “corruption” but now you are suddenly silent when it comes to the DJT family where everything is for sale.. Why is that?
P.S. Kristi Noem has embraced the DJT grift. She is now demanding a new $50 million Gulfstream jet for her personal use. Noem is hardly recognizable these days–from her pics when she was the governor of S. Dakota. She now has cheek and lip fillers, darkened and filled eyebrows and MAGA-style wavy hair extensions. People call it the “Melania look”. Seems to be a pattern with the women in DJT’s circle.
Dennis: TO keep you busy in the interim, here’s some other top off-topic stories that you somehow avoided,
-Despite Democrats crying foul for her arrest, Wisconsin Judge Dugan is indicted by a leftist grand jury.
-Media spent headlines on parents who filed charges over their 2 y.o. deported citizen, but charges were DROPPED after “a few more facts” came out…
-Was Former AG Eric Holder encouraging violence when he told media that it “Trump continues defying laws,
people will begin “hitting the streets.”
-Cory Booker congratulated protesters who interrupted a congressional hearing
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Well it ain’t perfect, sweetheart, but it’s all we got.
My 5th grade students are more sophisticated than you in their thinking. Your “education” really seems to have paid off.
There’s so much in here that’s nonsensical, it’s hard to know where to start. I’ll just mention 2 things that anyone who’s paying attention would know before writing this post on 5/17. 1) The President has already negotiated a trade deal with the UK so not sure what relationship has to be repaired there and PM Carney already came to the US and bowed a knee essentially, so why spend time going to Canada which has nothing we need. 2) The President went to the richest countries in the middle east because they not only have the wealth to make massive investments in the US, but they’re willing to make those investments without the kind of moaning that a place like Canada would do (which is massively in debt and has nothing to offer us right now). The UAE also has cutting edge AI research ongoing so their relationships with us in the R&D arena are hugely valuable – UK, EU (which can’t innovate to save it’s literal life anymore), Canada – not so much.
Trump is prioritizing trips to where countries will invest in the US, rather than trips where people have their hands out asking us to give them stuff. It’s called taking care of one’s own family. The funny thing is that Dennis McIntyre will be benefited by what Trump is doing along with the rest of us whether he likes it or not.
Lastly, I’m sure Dennis believes he’s smart by citing the emoluments clause. It doesn’t apply to gifts to the US which the Qatar plane would be. The US govt receives gifts all the time from foreign govt’s. As long as they are transparent and catalogued (as this plane would be), they are completely and utterly legal. So, Dennis – you’ve failed at basic understanding of US law. More importantly, you clearly don’t understand what a dictator is. It is certainly not someone who is working hard to SHRINK the size and power of a centralized (federal) govt, dismantle the massive regulatory state that has been suffocating individuals and small businesses, take the boot off the neck of people’s ability to speak freely and make their own medical decisions, etc. Anyone who knows anything about history or the definition of dictator well understands that a dictator does the opposite of those things. Disagreeing with judicial decisions that are usurping the powers of Article I and II branches does not make a dictator. Declaring that a citizen may never disagree with a judge is just another form of dictatorship – a dictatorship of the judiciary.
When these 3 individuals were born, they had no beliefs. They grew up in America as did most of us who read Prof. Turley’s insights and analysis. In fact, Prof. Turley often shares with us his having grown up in a democrat household in the Chicago area and turned out to be a decent citizen.
And so I wonder how it is that these 3 individuals who are leaving America grew up to become what they clearly have become, people who believe America is a fascist country to the point at which they cannot tolerate living in it, in their little enclave in New Haven sheltered from reality, and going to Canada? What happened to them when they were 8 years old, and 12 years old, and high school graduates, and went to college and grad schools — ?
That generational divide to which you speak of; i.e.: Why did they go Canadian?, , Something is is wrong – what went wrong?, I just don’t get why they don’t get it?, ….)
The Split happened when Ronald Regan took office. Not to cast dispersion upon Republicans, it wasn’t Regan or the Party per say, it was the opening of financial credit lines. The ability to afford College with Student Loans and Grants, purchase a reasonable sized house for a reasonable price, the fictionalization of the Government (Federal, State and Local), is all it was the ability to carry wider Debt. This basically was the severance of being responsible and irresponsible because there was some remedy available to: bail you out, make it go away, take care of it (Debts). The attitude of People changes from; what can I do to make the Government better and pulling your self up with your own bootstraps, to what can I do to make Me more successful, How can I raise My own status. … at the cost of the Government and Others.
Instead of investing in Government and Savings, People became dependent on Government and Debt. The Financial Markets changed to take advantage of this shift. Wall Street Banks, Corporations, all geared up to maximize profits by playing the availability of Debt (When to carry, when not to carry, Debt).
So now we come to Today, wherein things have been levered-up (Flipped over and over and over again) that the numbers are astronomical (Trillion Dollar deficits – Ha!) and irrational thus Irresponsibility has won. It brakes down to a lot of things but that’s where we are at. No one knows the answer as to “reset” the system’s systemic imbalance, except War. (sinking to the lowest common denominator).
Canada is not an answer, and although it may save the 3’s skin for a while in the end it will sub scum to the same end as the rest of the World.
The 3 said they were heading out for Toronto, because the U.S. is fascist. Interesting Toronto is the annexed Financial Derivatives Center for the U.K. much the same as NYC is Financial Derivatives Center for the U.S.. Producing “Fascist” Canadian Billionaires as the 3 may say, just as much as New York City. (i.e.: “Fascist” Hedge Fund Guys). They would be hard-pressed to find anywhere on this Planet wherein the “Fascist” hegemony isn’t present.
I also don’t see the 3 divesting completely their holdings here in the U.S., Selling off their Pensions, Social Security Holdings, and Marketable Assets and Debts.
The hypocrisy of their wisdom is an obvious acknowledgment of “Irresponsibility”. They are just running away. We’ll never know if the 3 actually go through with all of what they say, because part of the denial of their irresponsibility is the cover up of the hypocrisy. That said, they may move to Canada but find a away to leech funds out of the Fascist U.S.A. they so despise. They gotta find a away to keep the fascist ‘Cash-Flow’ coming in ($Canadian or $US). Canadians has been sucking up our ‘fascist’ cash to supplement their People for eons, Trumps Tariffs explains that in cold hard numbers.
Bon Voyage (as they say in French-Canadian)
American Pie – Don McLean (Circa May 26, 1971)
I wonder if any of the professors would like to purchase a gorgeous bridge over the Thames River which I’m selling for a song and dance.
It’s near the Cotswolds which makes it transferable to almost any other place on earth and it presently sports a quite lovely shade of pink.
“When the experts in fascism look at the US . . .”
Here is everything you need to know about the “expert” on fascism, Jason Stanley:
He’s a big fan of CRT and DEI. He argues that if you reject those two (tribalistic) ideas, you are trying to erase America’s history. Fascists also erase history. So that makes you — wait for it — a fascist.
And then there’s this gem of random association, which you’ve seen a thousand times: You and Trump believe that America is an exceptional country. Hitler believed that Germany was an exceptional country. Which makes you and Trump — wait for it: A fascist.
By that “reasoning,” an exceptional sports team is the same thing as an exceptional murderer — if we simply ignore the question: Exceptional at what?
Oh, and Stanley admires the socialist historian Howard Zinn.
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I agree that the Rise of Fascism is largely in the minds of these accusers.
But we now live in a media environment in which opinions have replaced facts as the basis for achieving agreement in social discourse. And both political parties have for so long wildly exaggerated their anti-factual claims against each other that one has to engage in a mining operation to find the truth in whatever it is that “journalists” now write.
And then there’s that longstanding problem of schools that no longer educate citizen students on our form of government, and how the Constitution actually works … all of it leading to a zeitgeist that favors belief that everything is coming apart at the seams.
Why do Arab men wear table cloths on their heads?
Sun and sand then heads for allah
Identifies their gang membership.
Here’s the REAL story on James Comey’s “8647” seashell “discovery.” Listen to Comey’s own confession:
https://rumble.com/v6tgjxv-breaking-news-james-comeys-ass-is-still-sore.html
Comey was out for a romantic walk hand-in-hand with Jill Biden on Rehoboth Beach at Biden’s home while sleepy Joe was comatose in a Lazyboy from an ice cream overdose. Comey found the cryptic message in the sand and tried to use a near by Conch shell to call for backup but finally realized that using the Signal App on the Bureau issued cell phone was better. Meanwhile Jill was getting lubed up for an afternoon of casual promiscuous fun. The two began to … Censored … but ended when Comey forgot to take his 2 Cialis pills before the main event due to the sea shell scare.
Your jokes aren’t funny nor relevant. Try hard, Svetlana.
Oh brother, look up the old hilarious TV show -Get Smart. It was done by Mel Brooks back in the day. Maxwell Smart was —Agent 86.
Comey is agent 86. Max and James fight the spies. Did James have a map leading to the seashells?
https://x.com/SumSol44/status/1893860082267385883/photo/1
Do weapons exist that, if used, could have ended the war by now?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_United_States_Army_during_World_War_II
Shabbat Shalom everyone 😊
Have a peaceful sabbath.
And you…
It’s only politics. What does that have to do with us?
“We Study Fascism…”
I smirk whenever I see such breast-beating. I’m a businessman but a lover of modern European history. I have studied fascism for over 55 years. A fascination of mine. “Know thine enemy!” Nothing . . . nothing in America smacks of true fascism or even remotely resembles fascism. The less-than-educated equate fascism with Hitler with no appreciation that it was Mussolini who brought fascism into being years before Hitler. What is omitted by the left (for obvious reasons) is that fascism is an extension of socialism. Mussolini was an ardent socialist before and after founding fascism. Shortly before he was deposed he lamented that he had not been socialist enough. Socialism and fascism differ only in that fascism recognizes the value of co-opting corporate industry to serve the state whereas socialism believes in state ownership of industry.
Trump is no fascist but I do not agree with his embrace of industrial policy (tariffs, drug price controls, etc.).
The industrial policy is global. He’s finding foreign nations who’ll buy American goods like beef. He calls it tariffs but its not. Americans will be employed by other nations and it’ll be called exports. It’s a twist on a theme. Boeing already sells worldwide but Mexican buyers like American airlines just have doors and wheels falling off.
Now look at the history of Airbust.
If we help other countries become more like America, then
their inhabitants will not need to come to America.
That’s a joke, right? Ha ha
Jason Stanley has good credentials. His parents ran in 1939 from Germany and Poland. They survived by running.
He translates his Judaism into helping what is unequal. He thinks a nation with free speech and inequities socioeconomically will cause collapse.
He’s written 7 books – How Propaganda Works and another about fascism. Sounds interesting and might be idiosyncratic to Mr. Stanley.
If they’re happy running, I’ll encourage it.
HAs Mr Stanley written any books about the CCP and their mechanisms of control of the people? Of not, why not?
Has Stanley written any books about Arab nations and their fascistic governance?
Has Stanley written any books regarding the lack of free speech in England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany or even Canada?
He is an expert that sees 1933 Germany only in right of center governments and never in left of center governments. He thinks Orwell was talking about right wingers and not Soviet style tyranny.
Dunno, but I think he taught classes in Kyiv.
What evidence does he provide that a nation without inequities will not collapse? He’s written seven books, How Propaganda Works and six others proving it, apparently.
Dunno, didn’t read his books because I’m afraid of propaganda and his books may affect me.
As to their leaving, if it makes them happy ok by me as their leaving causes me no distress nor injury. Bon voyage