This week, New York Judge Mary Rosado issued an opinion in Council of City of N.Y. v. Adams. The court is blocking the city from allowing the federal government to maintain office space at Rikers Island. The reason is that Rosado agreed that Mayor Eric Adams had a conflict of interest and likely bargained away the access as part of a quid pro quo arrangement to get the Justice Department to drop criminal charges against him. The opinion is quite extraordinary and, in my view, fundamentally flawed. The opinion generated more heat than light on the proper handling of a conflict of interest.
The court recounts the testimony of Danielle R. Sassoon, Esq., Acting United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, regarding a January 31, 2025, meeting with President Donald J. Trump’s Deputy Attorney General, Emil Bove, and the Mayor’s criminal defense counsel. She claimed that “Adams'[] attorneys repeatedly urged what amounted to a quid pro quo, indicating that Adams would be in a position to assist with [immigration] enforcement priorities only if the indictment were dismissed.”
After that meeting, on February 3, 2025, Mayor Adams’ criminal defense attorney, Alex Spiro, wrote to Bove that the prosecution of the Mayor will “become increasingly problematic as the Trump administration seeks to aggressively enforce immigration laws and remove undocumented immigrants …. [T]he federal government cannot possibly rely on Mayor Adams to be a fully effective partner in all situations in ongoing public-safety missions while he is under federal indictment ….”
Spiro further stressed that Mayor Adams’ “abilities to exercise his powers have also been complicated by his indictment” including his powers to “prevent[] the Office of the Corporation Counsel from litigating challenges to immigration enforcement, prevent[] appointed city employees from taking public stances against enforcement efforts, [and to] re-open[] the ICE office on Rikers Island ….”
One week later, on February 10, 2025, Bove directed federal prosecutors to dismiss with prejudice the pending criminal charges against Mayor Adams.
The plaintiffs allege that these negotiations traded away city policies or privileges in exchange for the dropping of the charges, a charge that Adams vehemently denies.
On February 13, 2025, after meeting with the Administration’s “Border Czar,” Thomas Homan, Mayor Adams announced that he would issue an executive order allowing federal immigration authorities to be present on Rikers Island. The next day, the Department of Justice filed a motion to dismiss all pending criminal charges against Mayor Adams.
After the announcement, a number of deputy mayors resigned in protest. Adams then appointed Randy Mastro as First Deputy and delegated to him the authority to “[p]erform any function, power or duty of the Mayor in negotiating, executing and delivering any and all agreements, instruments and any other documents necessary or desirable to effectuate any of the matters” related to public safety.
On April 8, 2025, Mastro issued Executive Order No. 50, authorizing the Department of Corrections to enter a Memorandum of Understanding with federal law enforcement agencies allowing them to maintain office space on Department of Corrections property, specifically Rikers Island.
The timing of these actions raised objections from many, both inside and outside City Hall. That included United States District Judge Dale Ho, who agreed to dismiss the criminal charges with prejudice, but not after lashing out at the administration. Ho wrote that “[e]verything here smacks of a bargain: dismissal of the [i]ndictment in exchange for immigration policy concessions.” He further warned that the suggestion “that public officials may receive special dispensation if they are compliant with the incumbent administration’s policy priorities … is fundamentally incompatible with the basic promise of equal justice under law.”
I disagreed with Judge Ho’s use of the order to opine on an alleged quid pro quo that was not established in the record or even material to his decision. Ho agreed that he could not “force the Department of Justice to prosecute a defendant” and agreed to dismiss the matter with prejudice. That was the correct and only decision that he could make. However, he further strongly suggested the need for an investigation but lamented that he “did not have the authority to appoint an independent prosecutor.”
I do not question Judge Ho’s sincere objections or the good-faith basis of many in raising this allegation. However, I do not believe that judges or justices should use their positions to opine on political or ethical issues that are not clearly before them. The issue before Judge Ho was solely the dismissal of a criminal case and he had no record, or in my view license, to hold forth on his unsupported suspicions in the case.
The matter, however, was raised and litigated directly before Judge Rosado by the city council, which sought to nullify the Executive Order as being violative of city ethical rules. Specifically, the city council cited New York City Charter § 2604(b)(3), which provides in pertinent part that “[n]o public servant shall use or attempt to use his or her position as a public servant to obtain any … privilege or other private or personal advantage, direct or indirect, for the public servant or any person or firm associated with the public servant.”
Judge Rosado found a likelihood of prevailing on the merits, citing Baker v. Marley, 8 NY2d 365, 367 (1960), that an action must be declared null and void when the action “directly or immediately affects him individually.” She specifically found:
Plaintiff-Petitioner has shown a likelihood of success in demonstrating, at a minimum, the appearance of a quid pro quo whereby Mayor Adams publicly agreed to bring Immigration and Customs Enforcement (“ICE”) back to Rikers Island in exchange for dismissal of his criminal charges. This showing is grounded in (1) Mayor Adams’ public statements; (2) Mayor Adams’ criminal defense attorney’s written overtures to the Department of Justice; (3) the temporal proximity between these overtures and Mr. Bove’s directive to dismiss the criminal charges against Mayor Adams; (4) statements from former Acting United States Attorney Danielle R. Sassoon and Assistant United States Attorney Hagan Scotten; (5) Mr. Homan’s statement that he will “be in [Mayor Adams’] office, up his b ___, saying, ‘Where the hell is the agreement we came to?'” and (6) the written findings by United States District Judge Dale Ho.
Although Defendants-Respondents deny any quid pro quo in conclusory fashion, this is insufficient, and almost expected. As wisely stated by Justice Anthony Kennedy, the quid pro quo need not be stated in express terms “for otherwise the law’s effect could be frustrated by knowing winks and nods. The inducement from the official is [violative] if it is express or if it is implied from his words and actions ….” Based on the record, Plaintiff-Petitioner has made a sufficient showing of an implied, if not an express quid pro quo based on Mayor Adams, Mr. Spiro, Mr. Bove, and Mr. Homan’s words and actions.
In my view, the decision is wrong on a number of key elements.
Who decides?
First, Judge Rosado heard this case despite the fact that there is a process for such allegations to be raised and adjudicated before the Conflict of Interest Board. Rosado recognizes the obvious problem and admits that
“[t]o be clear, the Conflicts of Interest Board is the preferred and proper forum for many garden variety conflict of interest disputes, such as those involving improper gifts, failures to disclose financial interests, and other financial conflicts.
However, the Conflicts of Interest Board is not equipped with the powers and tools to grapple with the case, which involves the promulgation of an Executive Order at lightning speed, upending a decree of New York policy barring federal law enforcement authorities from maintaining a presence on Department of Corrections property.”
I found the court’s logic on this portion of the opinion to be conclusory and counterintuitive. There is nothing in the law or regulations that defines the Board as focused on “garden-variety” conflicts. It is the system created by the city council to address conflict allegations and, while Judge Rosado believes that she can do better than the board, that is hardly a convincing basis to circumvent the process for the adjudication of such claims. Rosado ignores that this is a specialized body expressly tasked with such conflicts. It is unclear how the court is “better equipped” with its own limited staff to address such matters, other than having the ability to issue judicial injunctions.
Deception or Delegation?
Putting aside this act of judicial overreach, there is also the problem that the order was ultimately issued not by Adams but by Mastro. There are very compelling public policy reasons for taking this action. The city is struggling with the massive demands of its undocumented immigrant population. Before he was ever charged, Adams was viewed as a moderate on such questions who was open to greater federal enforcement. Many states and cities cooperate with federal authorities in this way as a matter of public policy.
Judge Rosado admits that there is a valid question of whether the delegation constituted a type of recusal or cleansing of the decision. However, she maintained that Mastro is not independent because he was appointed by Adams and reports to him. Moreover, she cited New York City Charter § 2604(b)(3), which states that delegating oversight or management does not necessarily erase a conflict of interest. She notes that Adams said publicly that he did not recuse himself and found:
“The Defendants-Respondents’ hyperbolic argument that if Mayor Adams cannot delegate to First Deputy Mayor Mastro, then there is nobody he can delegate to, is without merit. First Deputy Mayor Mastro, although an accomplished and highly educated attorney, is not independent of Mayor Adams and therefore cannot be considered impartial and free from Mayor Adams’ conflicts. First Deputy Mayor Mastro reports directly to Mayor Adams, is appointed by Mayor Adams, and can be fired by Mayor Adams. He is Mayor Adams’ agent.”
It is not clear, however, who would be sufficiently free of Adams’ authority to allow for them to make the myriad of decisions vis-a-vis federal authority. In this matter, Mastro and the Mayor’s office are arguing that he made an independent judgment on the merits of the policy. More importantly, Judge Rosado ignores the implications of her order. She never explains how the city is to function if any order dealing with the federal government could be viewed as part of a quid pro quo. There are a host of joint operations and programs with the federal government. Where does one draw the line and who then makes these decisions ranging from housing to prisons to voting? Rosado seems to shrug and say that anyone reporting to the Mayor or subject to his authority is not sufficiently independent.
The Order
Judge Rosado ultimately finds against Adams, but includes rhetoric exulting the prior pro-immigration policies that further undermines the opinion:
The Court finds that Plaintiff-Petitioner has demonstrated imminent and irreparable harm for purposes of obtaining a preliminary injunction. The harm to intangible assets such as damage to reputation, loss of goodwill, and brand tarnishment are routinely found sufficient to grant injunctive relief. New York City, which thrives as a global hub due in large part to its reputation as being a welcoming home for immigrant communities from around the world, risks having this goodwill and invaluable reputation irreparably damaged as a result of an Executive Order borne out of Mayor Adams’ alleged conflict of interest. New York City, through legislation and decades of policy, has established a reputation as a “Sanctuary City.” This reputation, and the goodwill built from decades of policy decisions, and which have provided New Yorkers with numerous intangible cultural and economic benefits, risks being irrevocably tarnished. The harm to New York City’s reputation as a Sanctuary City, and the goodwill with numerous communities that flows from that reputation, is best preserved through a preliminary injunction prohibiting Defendants-Respondents from acting on Executive Order No. 50.
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The Court is also cognizant of threat of irreparable harm in a more concrete sense—that is the threat to detained New York State and City residents and their dignity. There is ample evidence that there is already a serious, imminent and ongoing risk that immigrant New Yorkers, and even foreign tourists to New York City, are being wrongfully detained. There are documented reports of individuals being deported to stranger third-countries, and New York City residents are taken into custody for expressing political views contrary to the federal government’s agenda. Residents who are here seeking asylum are being deported to countries they claim to have previously faced persecution for their sexuality, politics, or religion. And this concrete harm flows to the Plaintiff-Petitioner…
I was frankly astonished by the direct discussion of the Mayor’s criminal charges in the conjunction with negotiations over enhanced federal enforcement. While I understand the defense counsel’s job to seek any lawful avenue for relief, I would have immediately cut off such discussions as inappropriate from the perspective of the Justice Department. If such discussions occurred, there is a legitimate concern over a quid pro quo. However, this is not how courts should address such allegations. I believe both Judge Ho (who ruled correctly) and Judge Rosado (who did not) exceeded the parameters for their opinions with extraneous commentary. That is particularly the case with Judge Rosado. More importantly, I believe that Judge Rosado is simply wrong in circumventing the designated board for addressing conflicts of interest and issuing this sweeping opinion.
This is not an easy matter for any board or court. These meetings and the timing of these decisions raise obvious concerns. However, courts are not allowed to engage in conjecture. It is not just plausible but likely that Adams would have extended the access to Rikers Island even without any change in his criminal case.
I do not see the limiting principle in this decision. Adams is still the mayor and may have independent and good-faith reasons for orders that are favorable for the federal government. Indeed, his order was the correct one on the merits. While Judge Rosado never explores the countervailing benefits while writing at length on the costs to a city of immigrants, they are obvious and cannot be ignored. In other words, Adams had every reason to support federal enforcement as a Mayor who ran on making New York a safer city.
This matter should have been left to the Conflicts of Interest Board, and the decision itself is ill-considered and incomplete.
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In a 6-3 ruling SCOTUS ruled for the State of Tennessee re: its transgender law, SB1. Chief Justice Roberts wrote the majority opinion and it is surprisingly pretty common sensical. The use of the verbiage minor and medical use were straight forward and logical. Kagan, Sotomayor and Jackson (who should have recused herself for not knowing how to define the word “woman”) came up on emotional vacuous gobbledegook. In spite of Europe ruling with the science on trans issues, the Left in America give both “science” and “minors” the middle finger. They would make Justice Oliver W Holmes proud vis a vis Buck vs Bell on forced sterilization and eugenics.
UNITED STATES v. SKRMETTI, ATTORNEY GENERAL AND REPORTER FOR TENNESSEE, ET AL.
In 2023, Tennessee joined the growing number of States restricting sex transition treatments for minors by enacting the Prohibition on Medical Procedures Performed on Minors Related to Sexual Identity, Senate Bill 1 (SB1). SB1 prohibits healthcare providers from prescribing, administering, or dispensing puberty blockers or hormones to any minor for the purpose of (1) enabling the minor to identify with, or live as, a purported identity inconsistent with the minor’s biological sex, or (2) treating purported discomfort or distress from a discordance between the minor’s biological sex and asserted identity. At the same time, SB1 permits a healthcare provider to administer puberty blockers or hormones to treat a minor’s congenital defect, precocious puberty, disease, or physical injury.
The District Court partially enjoined SB1, (Prohibition on Medical Procedures Performed on Minors Related to Sexual Identity, Senate Bill 1, SB1) finding that transgender individuals constitute a quasi-suspect class, that SB1 discriminates on the basis of sex and transgender status, and that SB1 was unlikely to survive intermediate scrutiny. The Sixth Circuit reversed, holding that the law did not trigger heightened scrutiny and satisfied rational basis review.
Held: Tennessee’s law prohibiting certain medical treatments for transgender minors is not subject to heightened scrutiny under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and satisfies rational basis review.
(1) On its face, SB1 incorporates two classifications: one based on age (allowing certain medical treatments for adults but not minors) and another based on medical use (permitting puberty blockers and hormones for minors to treat certain conditions but not to treat gender dysphoria, gender identity disorder, or gender incongruence). Classi- fications based on age or medical use are subject to only rational basis review. See Massachusetts Bd. of Retirement v. Murgia, 427 U. S. 307 (per curiam); Vacco v. Quill, 521 U. S. 793.
The plaintiffs argue that SB1 warrants heightened scrutiny because it relies on sex-based classifications. But neither of the above classifications turns on sex. Rather, SB1 prohibits healthcare providers from administering puberty blockers or hormones to minors for certain medical uses, regardless of a minor’s sex.
Finally, the Court rejects the plaintiffs’ argument that, by design, SB1 enforces a government preference that people conform to expecta- tions about their sex. To start, any allegations of sex stereotyping are misplaced. True, a law that classifies on the basis of sex may fail heightened scrutiny if the classifications rest on impermissible stereo- types. But where a law’s classifications are neither covertly nor overtly based on sex, the law does not trigger heightened review unless it was motivated by an invidious discriminatory purpose. No such argument has been raised here. And regardless, the statutory findings on which SB1 is premised do not themselves evince sex-based stereotyping.
By the same token, SB1 does not exclude any individual from medi- cal treatments on the basis of transgender status. Rather, it removes one set of diagnoses—gender dysphoria, gender identity disorder, and gender incongruence—from the range of treatable conditions. SB1 divides minors into two groups: those seeking puberty blockers or hormones to treat the excluded diagnoses, and those seeking puberty blockers or hormones to treat other conditions.
(c) This case carries with it the weight of fierce scientific and policy debates about the safety, efficacy, and propriety of medical treatments in an evolving field. The Equal Protection Clause does not resolve these disagreements. The Court’s role is not “to judge the wisdom, fairness, or logic” of SB1, Beach Communications, 508 U. S., at 313, but only to ensure that the law does not violate equal protection guarantees. It does not. Questions regarding the law’s policy are thus appropriately left to the people, their elected representatives, and the democratic process. P. 24.
ROBERTS, C. J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which THOMAS, GORSUCH, KAVANAUGH, and BARRETT, JJ., joined, and in which ALITO, J., joined as to Parts I and II–B. THOMAS, J., filed a concurring opinion. BARRETT, J., filed a concurring opinion, in which THOMAS, J., joined. ALITO, J., filed an opinion concurring in part and concurring in the judg- ment. SOTOMAYOR, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which JACKSON, J., joined in full, and in which KAGAN, J., joined as to Parts I–IV. KAGAN, J., filed a dissenting opinion.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/23-477_2cp3.pdf
Another good laugh.
Biden admin gave $800M contract to a home-based company despite knowing its manager received past contracts through bribery.
DOJ
LOL.
Top rated cities in America have one thing in common: no Dems in power. They contrast with the Dem-run hellhole cities that feature boarded up downtown stores, homeless encampments, needless and excrement filling the streets, rampant violent crime, Soros hug-a-thug prosecutors, efforts to defund the police, and sanctuary city status.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/06/18/top-u-s-cities-have-one-thing-in-common-no-democrats-in-power/
<Small Businesses Stuck in ‘Hotel California’, Wanting to Relocate, But Can’t Afford the Cost
https://www.blog.redballoon.work/post/small-businesses-stuck-in-hotel-california-wanting-to-relocate-but-can-t-afford-the-cost
Communism is unconstitutional. Communism begins where the absolute 5th Amendment right to private property is voided. The absolute right to private property includes products, production, wages, law enforcement against union criminal trespass, commerce obstruction, choice and denial of customer access, etc. California violates individual constitutional rights to freedom, free enterprise, free industries, free markets, private property, etc. California has been invaded by masses of illegal alien communist voters. California is communist and adverse.
California must be recovered and retaken by the federal government, and the dominion of the Constitution and Bill of Rights must be restored.
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“The theory of Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.”
– Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto
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“[Private property is] that dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in exclusion of every other individual.”
– James Madison
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Dylan Mulvaney versus Bud Light
_Last Call for Bud Light: The Fall and Future of America’s Favorite Beer_, by Anson Frericks.
This book, by a former Anheuser-Busch (AB) president, is a brilliant dissection of the irrational ideas that infiltrated AB (and other American companies). It shows in crystal clear detail who promoted those ideas (ESG, DEI), why they were promoted, how they altered the corporate culture — and how those destructive ideas caused a massive loss of customers, of brand integrity, of shareholder wealth.
“Rather than pursue shareholder profits, Anheuser-Busch suddenly became focused on stakeholder capitalism and the vague mandates of environment, social, and governance (ESG). This ill-advised change cumulated in the shocking evaporation of *$30 billion* in market cap after releasing an advertising campaign starring political activist Dylan Mulvaney.” (Emphasis added)
Anson Frericks and Vivek Ramaswamy co-founded Strive Asset Management, an investment company that focuses “on maximizing returns through capitalism, meritocracy, innovation, and American exceptionalism.”
Thanks for that, Sam. The fact a book like that can get published is a hopeful sign that the culture is changing from corrupt wokeness in 2021-2024 to something more sane and common sense in the wake of the Trump victory.
My pleasure.
“. . . can get published . . .”
Any by a major publisher, Simon & Schuster.
The author details a number of “hopeful signs” in the very companies that had swallowed the poison of ESG and DEI. He says that those signs started pre-Trump, and that Trump’s policies fast-tracked those companies back to shareholder principles.
What’s bizarre, and goes to show just how deep in sleep we were, is how they switched the vernacular from “shareholder-profits” to “stakeholders.” There was a subtle undermining, an efficient sleight of hand, in this slowly accepted and sly permutation. “They” [academia, political operatives, and captains of industry] replaced our common understanding of capitalism (for everyone) with elite-control, elites who give to themselves (only) the role of stakeholders.
A stake holder used to be ANYone with an interest in something. In that vein, we must overthrow the Marxist bid to turn our country into slovenly nitwits, ready to trade innovation and liberty for universal income. The way to do it is to claim the right of STAKEHOLDERS as well! Bully for Ramaswammy.
This does not matter to me.
Me, neither.
I would rather watch a movie about masturbating zombies.
So in other words. You just like to complain.
The lack of matter has much do with the crude similarity of behavior.
There are less than 30 regular commenters on here but I’d say >75% of the comments are authored by folks with mental illlness. They seek attention, thrive on chaos, insults, Machiavelian behaviors, sociopathy, some are extremely manic, others display Axis II behaviors, and so forth. We have had this discussion many times on this forum and I’ve provided countless research studies that describe the Dark Triad troll. In real life we are able to walk around or move quickly past individuals on sidewalks who display such behaviors. On this forum, due to the host’s open forum philosophy, anyone can post regardless of mental acuity, crudeness, decorum, etc.
The following research article might help. It has been cited >1500 times in only 11 years, an indication of how it resonated with other researchers of this topic
Buckels, E.E., Trapnell, P.D. and Paulhus, D.L., 2014. Trolls just want to have fun. Personality and individual Differences, 67, pp.97-102.
https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/trolls-just-want-to-have-fun.pdf
Professor Turley has asked readers in the “Civility Rules” tab (top of the page) not to engage the trolls. It is a wise suggestion
Thanks for the heads-up, Estovir, and with relevant details, since I am new to this forum.
I’ve dealt with these kinds of loonies on other platforms, and yes it spirals further out of control if you try to redirect. In other words, it does no good to waste time and brain-power on the irrational. However, for those on the cusp of sentience, perhaps trying to grasp logic, I often engage with a retort that is civilized/sanitized in the hopes of setting a cultivated example or at least eliciting an intelligent chortle (that others can appreciate).
We do well to keep the lurkers in mind. They are an important target audience, at least for me. When I engage in public speaking, esp at the university, I scan the entire room looking for the silent ones. They may take notes, are visually engaged, show facial expressions, but then never raise their hands or just depart. Sometimes they will approach me weeks or months later when they see me on campus. So yes, lurkers are a true audience.
The troll OTOH is, as the research indicates,
Online trolling is the practice of behaving in a deceptive, destructive, or disruptive manner in a social setting on the Internet with no apparent instrumental purpose. … trolls operate as agents of chaos on the Internet, exploiting ‘‘hot-button issues’’ to make users appear overly emotional or foolish in some manner. If an unfortunate person falls into their trap, trolling intensifies for further, merciless amusement.
…..similar patterns of relations between trolling and the Dark Tetrad of personality: trolling correlated positively with sadism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism, using both enjoyment ratings and identity scores. Of all personality measures, sadism showed the most robust associations with trolling and, importantly, the relationship was specific to trolling behavior. Enjoyment of other online activities, such as chatting and debating, was unrelated to sadism. Thus cyber-trolling appears to be an Internet manifestation of everyday sadism.
from the above link
Estovir
I find it interesting that you are attracted to the MAGA cult.
You obviously find it attractive because of your intense religiosity. You have spoken many times about your faith and how you have been influenced by the Jesuits.
The catholic church is probably the largest and oldest cult on the planet. Your psychological need for an authoritarian figure in your life is obvious. You clearly do not have the capacity to function as a free thinking autonomous being.
You find solace in the authoritarian influence of your god.
You also find solace in the authoritarian influence of Trump.
By subjugating yourself to these authoritarian figures you have eliminated the need to engage in meaningful thought about the real world. Your view of the world is whatever your god and Trump tell you to believe.
It is also telling that the Jesuits demand obedience above all else.
You have clearly followed the Jesuit teachings in absolute obedience to Trump, as well as your god.
So you hate America?
I know it, you know it, and they know it. Your obedience is to the bottle, and we have to suffer through your damaged brain.
Estovir
In an earlier post at 3:00pm you alluded to the “trolls” as thriving on chaos and INSULTS.
Is the above comment by S. Meyer an example of the INSULTS of which you speak ???
Is S. Meyer one of the >75% of the commenters here who suffer from mental illness ??
I eagerly await your response.
Blame and accusation mean nothing when it’s the bottle talking.
Estovir
S. Meyer appears to have a compulsive need to launch insults.
He has posted 3 insults in fairly short order.
I believe this places him in the category of Axis II personality disorder, which includes obsessive compulsive disorder.
Do you agree with my diagnosis ???
Asking Estovir for help? Is that because his God is stronger than your bottle?
No, no, no.
I am just asking Estovir if he concurs with my diagnosis of obsessive compulsive disorder in your case.
He was the one pointing out that “trolls” who post insults here are mentally ill with Axis II personality disorder which includes obsessive compulsive disorder.
I am simply asking him to comment whether posting insults is indicative of mentally ill trolls alone.
I am interested in his professional opinion as to whether posting insults like yours constitute similar mental illness.
It seems that such insults are deemed perfectly normal from fellow cult members like you but indicate mental illness in “trolls”
Do you not see the inconsistency ????
“my diagnosis of obsessive compulsive disorder”
Do you say that while compulsively counting every bottle you empty?
Estovir
I really have lost count of the insults from S.Meyer.
It is quite clear that he suffers from obsessive compulsive disorder.
I have also noted that all his insults revolve around drinking.
Perhaps we can add perseveration, ICD10 R48.8, to the diagnosis.
He obviously feels compelled to make insults, but there is an added dimension of perseveration.
His mind is locked into a particular insult about drinking, which he cannot let go, and the insults
are all variations on that theme.
Do you concur ????
Is it the booze that makes your comments so repetitive, bland, and useless? Try some thiamine unless the Wernicke’s is permanent, which seems to be what we are dealing with.
Is it the booze that makes your comments so repetitive, bland, and useless? Try some thiamine unless the Wernicke’s is permanent, which seems to be what we are dealing with.
Estovir
I believe we now have the incontrovertible proof of the diagnosis of perseveration, ICD10 R48.8.
Two identical insults in quick succession.
This is surely the clearest indication of perseveration one could possibly imagine, in addition to obsessive compulsive disorder.
Estovir, since you seem to be on first name terms with S.Meyer, and claim medical training with an interest in mental illness, then perhaps you could consider taking this poor fellow on as a patient.
You blabber while lying prostrate, hoping you won’t aspirate the contents of the last bottle. Don’t worry, the doctor won’t let you, but as soon as the danger subsides, they will place you in a rubber room.
Estovir
I strongly urge you to intervene to help your friend with his complex mental illness.
You probably do not live close by, but I believe that psychiatric care is quite amenable to Telehealth via Zoom or similar remote applications.
Please intervene ASAP.
I fear that his illness may progress to a psychotic break that requires hospitalization
Do you notice how quiet Estovir is despite your requests. Everyone else is as well. Maybe they are fed up with your rants, lies and disruptions. Put the bottle away and pray.
Anonymous – I have often wondered at the meaning of “cult”. How do you define it in a way that separates it from religion?
Estovir
Of course, when you say “trolls” you really mean those people who have the audacity to refute and disprove your delusional MAGA talking points, and actually confront you with provable factual information, rather than Kelly-Anne style “alternative facts”.
For example the Anon (not me) who completely dismantled UpstateFarmer’s delusional comments about farmers and his belief that family farmers are not being devastated by Trump’s policies.
UpstateFarmer is clearly not a farmer.
Just another MAGA cultist like you.
Unfortunately your definition of a “troll” is simply someone with whom you disagree.
One man’s troll is another man’s sage.
It all depends whether you live in the real world, or the delusional fantasy world of a cult.
I think you really missed Estovir’s point. He was referring to those who use vulgar insults and outright profanity without providing any other intelligible or compelling discourse. In a forum like Professor Turley’s, we expect better than that, even if an insult or two flies.
You are being trolled, Dianna. Your respondent is the troll of which the article I referenced characterizes, who on this forum, uses scores of sockpuppet accounts: George, Dennis, Gigi, etc, all one and the same troll. the give away is the adolescent, purile insults. Adults engage other adults. Left wing agitprop trolls do not, eg. Democrats/ MSM
Estovir
Fascinating piece of delusional cult thinking.
You ascribe all the supposed “troll” comments to one individual.
This is a classic example of the false consensus effect (look it up, you may learn something). This is a psychological bias that leads individuals to think that their views are representative of the great majority of the population. They believe that they are the “normal” ones and that anyone with opposing views is by definition part of an “abnormal” minority.
This effect does not allow those affected to accept the idea that they are in fact a minority with unusual views.
They have to believe that they are the majority, and therefore if confronted by MANY “trolls”, they rationalize this by thinking that there really is only one “troll”. This provides a psychological defense mechanism to reinforce the belief that they really are a majority, when in reality they are just a small deluded cult that represents a very small minority within the general population.
Truly fascinating.
You are a veritable fountain of psychological defects.
The bottle splinters the soul into faces we no longer recognize, but each one carries the same watermark: liquor.
Estovir
Yet another insult by S. Meyer.
Is he one of the trolls who thrive on insults ??
Is he representative of the >75% of commenters who are mentally ill ??
I await your verdict on this matter.
Another bottle, another insult. What’s left inside shrivels away.
Estovir.
S. Meyer’s insults apparently do fulfill an obsessive compulsion that he is unable to control.
There are now 4 insults.
There can be little doubt that this fits the criteria for Axis II personality disorder, that being obsessive compulsive disorder, most likely ICD10 F42.2.
“There are now 4 insults.”
That number still doesn’t match the number of bottles scattered around your body.
Estovir
The insults from S.Meyer are coming thick and fast now.
I have lost count.
Surely you agree that this obsessive uncontrollable behavior fits Axis II personality disorder.
The evidence now is incontrovertible.
I would really like to know if you agree with my diagnosis.
Your lackluster barbs are like warm beer on a hot beach: unwelcome, weak, and better dumped than swallowed.
Yet again we see the perseveration element of S.Meyer’s mental illness.
He is obsessively compelled to continue with the insults, and all these insults revolve around drinking.
He simply cannot let this idea go.
This is classic perseveration, in addition to his obsessive compulsive disorder.
The bottle splinters the soul into faces we no longer recognize, but each one carries the same watermark: liquor.
Touché
On an unrelated note, Seth, I hope the Iranian regime is completely leveled to save Israel, the Middle East, the US and all nations anymore harm from these evil militant Mullahs. Israel deserves to exist in peace
Ahhhh !!!
So insults from fellow cult members are not “real” insults, and are perfectly permissible.
Such insults are perfectly acceptable and not in the least puerile.
Perhaps you only object to “puerile” insults, and by definition fellow cult members are not capable of such puerility.
So to summarize:
MAGA insults are normal behavior and acceptable.
Troll insults are puerile and unacceptable.
Got it.
A veritable cornucopia of inconsistencies and psychological defense mechanisms.
“So insults from fellow cult members are not “real” insults”
What insults? I merely respond by understanding your “bottled up” problems.
Thank you so much, Estovir. Israeli lives and Israel’s survival are all I think about. I mourn deeply for those we’ve lost, including friends and their families. I won’t rest easy until there’s an unconditional surrender and our people can dismantle and destroy every nuclear and missile facility from within. Only then can I breathe freely.
S. Meyer
So Israeli lives are all you think about.
Really ?????
Are you an American ????
How about some thoughts for the American people who may die when Trump cuts Medicaid and Medicare.
How about some thoughts for the American people who may die because Trump has cut cancer research at the NIH.
How about some thoughts for the American children who will die because RFK has cut access to vaccines and disbanded the Vaccine Advisory Committee.
How about thinking about AMERICAN lives.
“So Israeli lives are all you think about.”
Yes, because I have family being bombed. I don’t have the luxury of worrying about foul-mouthed drunks who disrupt every conversation because their bottle keeps them twitchy and loud. I care about human life, but I don’t waste sympathy on those who teach their children to bomb school buses.
I grieve for all who suffer, especially because of stupid, self-serving people like you and the Mullahs you echo.
Yes, I’m an American through and through. And unlike the ignoramus class you belong to, I and millions of others proudly support Israel’s right to exist.
“How about some thoughts for the…”
Thoughts? You don’t have any. The bottle took them. Whatever you had got poured out with every drink you threw down.
Hmmm
So my thoughts echo the thoughts of the Mullahs, you say.
Really ???
As I said, my thoughts are with the many millions of Americans who will suffer and perhaps die because of Trump’s cuts to healthcare and life saving research into cancer treatments and other diseases, as well as cuts to vaccine availability and cuts to CDC surveillance of infectious disease.
Do you really think that the Mullahs share these thoughts ???
If so, you are considerably more mentally ill than I had already surmised.
“As I said, my thoughts are with the many millions of Americans who will suffer and perhaps die because of Trump’s…”
As I said, your mind’s gone. Read Bastiat. He’ll explain what your bottle can’t. Guessing while drunk is like driving drunk: dangerous, sloppy, and sure to land you in hot water, looking like a fool.
Really ????
You think that reading the works of an economist has any relevance to our little discussion.
Your mind really has slipped a cog or two or even three.
In fact your mind appears to have completely disengaged and drifted off to into some unknown rabbit hole.
However, you perseveration with the drinking insults is fully noted.
all one and the same troll. the give away is the adolescent, purile insults.
typo: puerile not purile
They do give me a laugh every so often. Most are just boring.
The left wonders why Americans don’t trust them.
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Jim Acosta Doesn’t Think Farmers Are Capable of Thinking for Themselves When Voting.
What a fool. I bet you he’s never seen or been to a farm.
Liar!!!
Acosta never said that.
You are just making stuff up again.
Where is your proof ?????
Without proof you have nothing, loser.
Jim Acosta Doesn’t Think Farmers Capable Of Thinking For Themselves When Voting
““The far-right in this country has kind of figured out a way to infiltrate the heartland and to basically to pull Ma and Pa from the farm to their point of view,” Acosta said. “And as it turns out, a lot of these folks vote in these elections and a lot of those folks have been completely led astray. I hate to say it, but they’ve just been completely led astray. And we’ve all just let this happen on our watch with essentially a business model for delivering the news in this country that just does not work anymore.”
https://dailycaller.com/2025/06/17/jim-acosta-farmers-voting-republicans/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Ya. It sur do sound like he dont think us Ma and Pa farmers can look at da issues and reckon for ourselves. Some yahoos have come down to da ol homestead and filled our heads with all dis far right wing stuff. You know, we dont have no new fangled flat tee-vee. That thar interwebs thing is like something out of Star Trek. I can recall about a year or so ago, reading da paper and them thar was some guy, talking bout something bout “gender affirming care.” He was wearing a dress. Just recently I read in da paper bout some boy in Kalifornia, winning in some girls track meet. I reckon thar Mr. Acosta does not think we can tell the difference between a guy in a dress, or a boy winning girls track meets. (/sarc)
NotReallyaFarmer
You seem to be out of step with the multitude of “REAL” farmers who feel betrayed by Trump after overwhelmingly voting for him.
See my posts below with stories from “REAL” farmers who deeply regret voting for Trump, and as Acosta correctly observed, they feel that they have been “led astray”
Conclusion: You are not really a farmer.
I strongly suggest that you change your handle to NotReallyaFarmer.
Annony moron, keep posting as annony moron. Tell us all how dumb and ignorant you are. Try reading some books by Joel Salatin, Gene Logsdon (RIP, before he passed him and I exchanged a number of emails), watching documentaries like Food Inc., Fed Up, even Super Size Me.
NotReallyaFarmer
You seem to spend all your time reading, watching TV, and commenting here all day every day.
Shouldn’t you be out in the fields at this time of year ???
Now that winter is over, there must be a lot of work to do on your “farm”
But perhaps you are NotReallyaFarmer.
An
You just can’t stop making a fool of yourself.
My Aunt & Uncle had a farm just out side of the San Diego limits.
I just love how you keep making a fool of yourself.
Farmers have been “played for suckers” by Trump, said Ben Palen, a fifth-generation farmer, at the Kansas Reflector. Palen’s fellow farmers supported Trump
https://theweek.com/politics/trump-supporting-farmers-tariffs-doge-agriculture
The policies of the Trump administration are wreaking havoc on family farmers. It’s been terrible,” said John Bartman, a row crop farmer in Illinois.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/may/23/trump-farmers-policy
The Guardian is a leftist hack MSM news.
The real problem is not Trump or tariffs, it is Big Ag, like JSB and Tyson. Been like that for decades. These farmers fall for the Big Ag way of farming, which is a losing battle.
NotReallyaFarmer
Attacking the messenger, the Guardian, is a sure sign of someone who does not have a counterargument and knows he is wrong.
There are many other stories in the same vein.
You don’t attack the other sources.
All the stories I posted are from multi-generational family farmers, not “Big Ag” as you claim.
In fact Big Ag has been making out like bandits under Trump
“USDA cuts hit small farms as Trump showers billions on big farms”
https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2025/04/06/usda-cuts-hit-small-farms-as-trump-showers-billions-on-big-farms/
In your MAGA delusions you seem to think that Trump and his tariffs are not the problem.
“REAL” farmers disagree:
American farmers are again facing significant losses from President Donald Trump’s quaint obsession with tariffs.
https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-trade-wars-harm-farmers-taxpayers
While Donald Trump campaigned on lower prices and support for workers and rural America, his new tariff policies will have harrowing impacts on farmers and consumers.
foodandwaterwatch.org/2025/04/10/trump-tariffs-farmers-families/
Your complete misunderstanding of the effect Trump is having on “REAL” farmers is just further confirmation that you are NotReallyaFarmer.
NotReallyaFarmer
Attacking the messenger, the Guardian, is a sure sign of someone who does not have a counterargument and knows he is wrong.
All the stories I posted are from multi-generational family farmers, not “Big Ag” as you claim.
In fact Big Ag has been making out like bandits under Trump
“USDA cuts hit small farms as Trump showers billions on big farms”
https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2025/04/06/usda-cuts-hit-small-farms-as-trump-showers-billions-on-big-farms/
NotReallyaFarmer
In your MAGA delusions you seem to think that Trump and his tariffs are not the problem.
“REAL” farmers disagree:
American farmers are again facing significant losses from President Donald Trump’s quaint obsession with tariffs.
https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-trade-wars-harm-farmers-taxpayers
While Donald Trump campaigned on lower prices and support for workers and rural America, his new tariff policies will have harrowing impacts on farmers and consumers.
https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/2025/04/10/trump-tariffs-farmers-families/
Your complete misunderstanding of the effect Trump is having on “REAL” farmers is just further confirmation that you are NotReallyaFarmer.
During the 2024 presidential election, farming-dependent counties overwhelmingly voted for Donald Trump. Almost 78% endorsed his most recent presidential run, and a similar — albeit slightly smaller — percentage backed Trump in 2020.
But President Trump’s early 2025 policies are hurting farming communities. And now, some of those voters may be regretting their decision.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-farmers-voted-trump-feeling-210000721.html
Devastated. Betrayed. Heartbroken. Like the rug was pulled out from under them — that’s how farmers describe the Trump Administration’s sudden dismantling of several Biden-era programs that had begun to revive small farming.
https://farmstand.org/trumps-anti-farmer-moves-are-designed-to-keep-us-from-a-better-food-system/
Hopefully the US will move to a system of identifying their products as grown in the US, picked, packed, shipped by Americans.
Don’t buy it otherwise and purchase canned foods having nothing to do with the Western Hemisphere. Don’t frequent hotels or restaurants unless owned, operated, cooked and served by Americans.
Apparently these industries have been abusive. These industries can change to All American or bankruptcy.
The farmers asked a federal judge to declare Section 7 of Trump’s “Terminating the Green New Deal” executive order unlawful, enjoin the administration from implementing the freeze under another name, and order the release of all frozen funds.
https://www.courthousenews.com/farmers-sue-trump-administration-to-unfreeze-usda-grants/
Crushing farms by withholding contractually promised funding is not only unlawful, but it harms rural communities by undermining families that are central to local economic growth, and leaving small businesses that service the farm economy all across this country in a state of panic.
https://sustainableagriculture.net/blog/trump-denies-over-2-billion-in-payments-owed-to-30000-farmers/#:~:text=By%20threatening%20to%20renege%20on%20these%20contracts%2C,threatening%20the%20economic%20stability%20of%20rural%20America.&text=Crushing%20farms%20by%20withholding%20contractually%20promised%20funding,this%20country%20in%20a%20state%20of%20panic.
THIS, from a fool who likely loves the idea of 15-Minute Cities that will feed him.
A meme worthy of a once great state and those who reign over it.
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1935159314303386019
OT. The Padilla stunt was publicity. He may want to run for governor of California. Newscum v. Palooka
Someone sent the union to Panama. No Chiquita bananas. I’m tired Mr owner of Chiquita of developing 3rd worlds. Let’s get the 🍌 from Argentina or Thailand or or or.
How bad can it get? Probably Brazil? Nah, that’s too good. Venezuela? … 3rd world anyway…
Adieu and have a lovely tomorrow.
If it weren’t so true, it would be funny.
“Fundamentally flawed”, you say, Turley? Is this a new name for bu ll sh it?
“New York City, which thrives as a global hub due in large part to its reputation as being a welcoming home for immigrant communities from around the world, risks having this goodwill and invaluable reputation irreparably damaged as a result of an Executive Order borne out of Mayor Adams’ alleged conflict of interest. New York City, through legislation and decades of policy, has established a reputation as a “Sanctuary City.””
Any prior written legal definition for that “reputation”, Ms Rosado?
Tar and feather this delusional ho.
Yes, NYC the site of Twin Towers is considered by Mayor Adams probably everyday. Again, the Federal government is considering national security as WWWIII is ever looming. Israel and Iran are at war, judges Ho and Rosado and the US is in oversight. These decisions leave new Yorkers in peril.
God bless America is probably on the minds of Adams and the Executive Branch everyday, every moment unlike the two of you.
So, is the judge just kind of freestyin’ or did plaintiff’s pleadings assert and establish reputational damage to NYC as a legitimate injury? Ridiculous even if plaintiff made such an assertion. Courts don’t weigh the “injury” to robbers’ livelihoods or to the neighborhoods they rob when the government (city, state, or federal) enforces laws against robbery, do they? Furthermore, there is reputational damage done to NYC’s reputation by the lack of enforcement of laws. The judge maybe needs to talk to aggrieved small business owners watching their inventory getting boosted, and to read more widely. Finally, I vote that it should be “born,” not “borne” in the above usage.
They simply don’t want to lose reps to the House. These protesters are pawns.
Implement American political history K-12. Full class time per day at 50 minutes.
The Biden years are years of treason as history will report.
*. News report for north LA, armored car hijacked and was carrying 100 million dollars in diamonds and emeralds.
Yeah, it’s under control. Keep on protesting. Sad…
Noem is a concern…🤔
HEY ANON: The July 10, 2022, heist resulted in the theft of “approximately $100 million worth of gold, diamonds, rubies, emeralds, and luxury watches,” the U.S. Department of Justice said in a news release. IN 2022 KEEP UP BOZO!!
A new report…
STILL from 2022 Heist. READ THIS Suspects charged in $100M Brinks truck jewel heist at LA County freeway rest stop
Prosecutors say the suspects tracked the truck to a rest stop in Lebec, where they solen 24 bags of jewelry in what the DOJ called the largest jewelry theft in U.S. history.
FROM the 2022 HEISTT ANON!! GOOGLE IT!! NOT A NEW HEIST!! TRY to blame Noem and Trump? YOUR SAINT BIDEN was President then!!
Ya, a new heist…a new heist…repeat
AGAIN a heist from 2022 7 were identified repeat 2022 2022 2022 2022 GOGGLE IT too lazy???
Yes, arrested
He’s not my Saint, Mr kirk. They repeat because they have nothing new to offer and lack talent and intelligence just like the same old kill the Jewish people repeat. It’s quite amazing. Let’s steal jewelry and kill the jews…over and over…
Yes, arrested
FOS ANON!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh NO!
*** Yes, I concede, Kirk. I was wrong —> the group that did the 2022 Brinks heist was just arrested. They caught them.
I can’t be right all the time.
Two men were expected to appear in court Tuesday after they were charged in a federal indictment with a $100 million Brinks truck heist at a freeway rest stop north of Los Angeles.
Gold, diamonds, rubies, emeralds, and luxury watches that were being transported from a jewelry show near San Francisco were stolen in the July 2022 crime, which the DOJ called the largest jewelry theft in U.S. history.
A new one…repeat
You’re repeating, Kirk. It’s recycled…
give me a link BO ZO All the news I see is arrests from the hesit in 2022 TOO LAZY??
Yes, I concede.
Yep
*. Rikers is out of city councils control as in receiver is private party as of May 13, 2025. It’s a city jailhouse. ICE can deport . Will they depends on what crimes were committed in addition to being illegal, I ppresume?
OT: Boelter’s wife was picked up with other relatives in car, ammunition , passports in car. Running?
Boelter may very well be a serial killer Ala Ted Bundy. Bundy was a necrophiliac in addition to other mental illnesses. Boelter was taking classes for mortician. He frequented the Congo. Any reported murders?
The lackadaisical approach to all these killings must stop. These protesters need assembly removed for 30 days and repeated until violence stopped. There are illegals here without background checks. It’s serious.
Quit grandstanding with tears. Biden and mayorkas should be arrested. Noem taken to hospital?
Time for the big guns on national security and public safety. 4 people were shot.
Jonathan: There is so much confusion, chaos and flip-flopping by the DJT regime it’s hard to know who is actually in charge in the WH. Take the immigration raids. Last week DJT said he was sympathetic to the concerns of farmers and hospitality executives over ICE raids at farms and restaurants and was thinking of pausing those raids. Yesterday, the WH did a 180. The Darth Vader of the WH, Stephen Miller, and Kristi “Barbie” Noem made it clear that the farm fields, the packing plants and restaurants would not be exempt. That’s because Miller and Noem insist on 3,000 grabs of immigrants per day. Since 60% of farm workers are undocumented they can’t get close to that goal without raiding the farm fields. Seems DJT is less and less engaged in decision making. He now allows himself to be overruled by other Cabinet officials–with or without his input.
But it was a different matter with DJT’s military Birthday parade on Saturday. He was embarrassed by the low public turnout. He excoriated Pete Hegseth by the lack of enthusiasm by the troops as they paraded by. He wanted them to appear more menacing. Instead their parade formation was hopelessly out of sync. They seemed to be casually walking by DJT on the podium. Maybe as a symbol of protest that they were being used as props to glorify the dictator?
On top of that DJT was humiliated by the over 5 million people that turned out around the country on “No Kings” day. The rally in Boise, Idaho alone was bigger than DJT’s military parade. DJT doesn’t like to be humiliated. So on Sunday he posted this: “ICE officers are herby ordered, by notice of this TRUTH, to do all in their power to achieve the very important goal of delivering the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History”. To accomplish that goal DJT indicated he wants ICE to target “sanctuary” cities–LA, NY and Chicago that “are the core of the Democratic Power Center, where they use Illegal Aliens to expand their voter base, cheat in Elections, and grow the Welfare State…” DJT went on in his deranged rant to claim “Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our country…They believe in Open Borders, Transgender for Everybody, and Men playing in Women’s Sports…” The only “TRUTH” in DJT’s screed was everything in it was a lie!
One thing is certain. The undocumented are not interested in transgender for everybody. Nor are they interested in playing in women’s sports. They are too busy picking our crops, washing and cleaning up the backrooms of restaurants where we eat and probably worrying about the next ICE raid!
^^ Paid DNC troll. Ignore. ^^
Dennis (presumed): For once I agree with you re: your last paragraph in which you say: “One thing is certain. The undocumented are not interested in transgender for everybody. Nor are they interested in playing in women’s sports. They are too busy picking our crops, washing and cleaning up the backrooms of restaurants where we eat and probably worrying about the next ICE raid!”
But your comment is incomplete. Here’s the remainder that you left off:
“Another thing is certain. Until the undocumented persons are interested in entering this country legally, following the law, learning the English language, gaining formal education, and registering with the INA and local authorities, they will continue to be “picking our crops, washing and cleaning up the backrooms of restaurants where we eat” for a living by choice. Repeat, by choice”
Lin,
Well said and accurate.
Trans in women’s sports? Yes, payback for all the lesbians the straights had to tolerate.
Top Homeland Security official says 75% of ICE arrests are convicted criminals
“McLaughlin criticized the media for biased coverage of the ICE raids. She said the Trump administration was getting the “worst of the worst” out of the country.”
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/homeland-security-top-official-says-75-ice-arrests-are-convicted
Smh, it was a history lesson. I liked it.
I think it’s common sense to think that there was an exchange, that Adams likely traded access for dropping the criminal charges. If the local govt can prove that they should prosecute it. But, granting access to federal LE to a local jail is not an improper act, and one can make the case that refusing to cooperate could force NYC into litigation. To argue that the city can’t do what it can legally do seems a strange holding to me.
There has been a lot of comment from the MAGA morons regarding the motive of Vance Boelter for the Minnesota shootings.
The consensus view in the cult seems to be that Walz hired Boelter to make a hit on Melissa Hortman because she voted with Republicans on a healthcare bill.
The consensus view also holds that “THEY” are deliberately withholding the manifesto from public view because of some nefarious collusion.
Of course this conspiracy theory is complete insanity, but par for the course in the MAGA cult.
If you paid attention to actual news, rather than the MAGA echo chamber you would realize how insane this theory is.
All you have to do is pay attention to the court filings and the statements by US Attorney Thompson to understand the truth.
The Hortman residence was the FOURTH residence visited by Boelter.
She was obviously not the primary target.
US Attorney Thompson has stated that there is no manifesto. They found a number of notebooks full of information about 70 targets across several states. There were 45 political targets in Minnesota. The notebooks contain extensive information about addresses, family members and other personal information about the targets. The notebooks also have extensive records of surveillance by Boelter at the addresses of the targets, including the best locations to get a clear view.
US Attorney Thompson has stated explicitly that Boelter’s notebooks prove he had been planning this for a long time.
The vote by Hortman was on June 9, and the shooting was on June 14, only 5 days later.
Obviously, according to the US Attorney, Boelter had been planning this long before the vote in question.
The notebooks do not contain a manifesto, just records of addresses, personal information and surveillance.
There is no manifesto being suppressed from public view.
Even if “THEY” were hiding a manifesto, “THEY” would be Bondi and Patel.
This MAGA theory is complete and utter insanity.
Having said that I have absolutely no doubt that you will be able to twist yourselves into pretzels to try to reconcile the actual facts with your MAGA fantasies.
I look forward to reading your insane rationalizations of the actual facts.
I know you will not disappoint me, you never do.
I’ll wait.
^ Paid DNC troll. Ignore ^
^ Paid DNC troll. Ignore ^
You start with MAGA morons? My reading of your garbage then stopped!!
Learn to read.
GTH!!!
Kirk – the low-IQ Trump haters on this blog are not clever enough to figure out that if they start their hysterical screeds with an insult people won’t read any further, so they’ve wasted all time.
OldManFromKS,
Correct. I generally dont read the annony morons anyways.
Dear Anonymous @ 5:50:
(1) Who are part of the “consensus” MAGA cult that you keep referring to?
(2) You refer to “the consensus view in the cult seems to be that Walz hired Boelter to make a hit on Melissa Hortman because she voted with Republicans on a healthcare bill.” I’ve gone through all the comments here and I only see one who proposed that claim. So where are you getting your “fact” that this is so, and Who are you referring to as “the consensus view?” Apparently not too many commenters herein.
(3) You refer to “the consensus view also holds that ‘THEY’ are deliberately withholding the manifesto from public view because of some nefarious collusion.” I’ve gone through all the comments here and I only see one or two who proposed that claim. So where are you getting your “fact” that this is so and Who are you referring to with “the consensus view?”Apparently not too many commenters herein.
(4) Exactly Who is proposing “This MAGA theory” that you reference. Please cite your source(s).
(5) Yesterday, I personally noted that a consensus of media seemed to conclude that Boelter was motivated to murder Democrats, but that the list was incomplete and could reveal a different motive related more to, e.g. pro-abortion stances. There was more than one person who believes[d] the same, so we should withhold conclusions. Could it mean that the motivation is not political party, but rather stance on abortion? (You can go back and read the comments I posted yesterday and the morning before that.)
See how that works?
“I look forward to reading your [reference to] the basis for your above facts.
I know you will not disappoint me, you never do.
I’ll [also] wait.”
His wife arrested. Wonder the reason….
Detained. Not arrested
Correction.
Lin,
Once again, you make a logical assessment of the situation. As I responded to your other logical assessment yesterday, until we get more verified facts from the authorities investigation, I am in sit and wait mode. No need to jump to conclusions when the evidence is scant and we need more factual information to make analysis and assessments. Might not come out until the trial.
NotReallyaFarmer
Of course, what you really mean is that you are waiting for “ALTERNATIVE” facts that fit your preconceived MAGA prejudices.
Any facts that do not fit the MAGA doctrine can be dismissed in your twisted mind.
For example you are obviously dismissing the information about Boelter’s extreme Christian nationalism views and his support for Trump.
WRONG.
Timmy did hire him & his wife. That you can’t argue.
The consensus view in the cult seems to be that Walz hired Boelter to make a hit on Melissa Hortman because she voted with Republicans on a healthcare bill.
*. Of course that can’t be true because Mr and Mrs. Hoffman not the others listed did not vote no.
The man is most likely a schizo or bipolar. Where’s GEB for an opinion on serial killer behavior. I’ll check Google for compare serial killer traits.
I checked. They have sociopathic behavior and many abused as children in common. It says a gene has been identified for an enzyme that regulates brain chemicals like serotonin, epinephrine, and others . Apparently that gene is damaged.
There are Judges and then there are Judges.
A US District Judge rebukes Columbia University labor unions (plaintiffs) mercilessly with lots of zingers, and rules for President Trump/DOJ/DOE in cutting Columbia U. $400 M in federal funds. Her entire order is worth a read but here are some highlights. She had too much fun in writing this witty opinion
Plaintiffs, the American Association of University Professors (“AAUP”) and the American Federation of Teachers (“AFT”), are labor unions for “faculty and academic professionals,” among other professionals, with headquarters in Washington, D.C. …..Conspicuously, Columbia, whose grants and contracts were terminated and
whose funding is the subject of the relief Plaintiffs seek, is not a plaintiff.
With no apparent sense of irony, lawyers for an organization called “Protect Democracy” insist that a district court judge should order the Executive Branch immediately to restore the flow of taxpayer dollars to an elite university, which funding Defendants represent is inconsistent with the priorities of the duly elected President of the United States. Our democracy cannot very well function if individual judges issue extraordinary relief to every plaintiff who clamors to object to executive action. Neither the Executive Branch nor the Legislature ever awarded the grants and contracts at issue to Plaintiffs or any of their members. The funding that Plaintiffs ask this Court to commandeer was awarded to Columbia, which is conspicuously absent from this case. If any funds have been wrongfully withheld, such funds may be recovered at the end of a successful lawsuit by the appropriate plaintiff in an appropriate forum. See Dep’t of Educ. v. California, 604 U.S. __, 145 S. Ct. 966, 969 (2025).
[…]
Yet Plaintiffs apparently fail to grasp that one possible inference from this state of affairs is that funding cuts were made and maintained not to punish speech but because, for example, it is not consistent with the priorities of the NIH under the current, democratically elected President, to continue to fund Columbia’s research into the impact of climate change on the mental health of women in East Africa. See Witte Decl. ¶ 9. Declining to fund such research is not a First Amendment injury.
[…]
Plaintiffs blithely assert that the balance of equities and the public interest “strongly favor preliminary relief” and that “[n]o public interest is served by allowing continued violations of Title VI, the APA, and the Constitution.” Pl. Mem. at 28, 29. However, it is not the role of a district court judge to direct the policies of the Executive Branch first and ask questions later. Plaintiffs have not established their standing to litigate this case, let alone any violation of any law.
[…]
V. CONCLUSION
For the reasons set forth above, Plaintiffs’ motion for a preliminary injunction [ECF No. 24] is DENIED, and this case is DISMISSED without prejudice.
Date: June 16, 2025 MARY KAY VYSKOCIL
New York, NY United States District Judge
https://litigationtracker.law.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/American-Association-of-University-Professors_2025.06.16_OPINION-ORDER-DENYING-MOTION-FOR-PRELIMINARY-INJUNCTION.pdf
Our democracy cannot very well function if individual judges issue extraordinary relief to every plaintiff who clamors to object to executive action.
Every sitting federal judge should abide by those words, and should understand that instinctively when one of the hundreds of lawfare cases is brought before him or her. Yet, we have an ongoing judicial insurrection – so many federal judges now, in fact, do “issue extraordinary relief to every plaintiff who clamors to object to executive action” because . . . because Trump man bad. That satisfies low-IQ Trump haters, but it destroys the rule of law . . . and it damages democracy. In virtually every case Trump is doing what the voters elected him to do, and politically-driven judges are collectively standing in the way.
Estovir,
Excellent. Thank you for that.
** ya know, Estovir, we got the Armageddon world. The lord has many worlds and we got this one. Feel lucky? We got the worst deal. What a fate.
The Core problem here – which has been an issue with all the lefts nonsense, is that even if you PROVE an inappropriate motive, you can not use that – as a matter of law to preclude a legal ACT.
There is little doubt that ICE has good reason to have access to rikers.
There is little doubt it is in the cities interests.
Lets Assume that Mayor Adams publicly and explicitly truck a deal with DOJ
no prosecution for access to Rikers
If you could prove it you MIGHT be able to indict Adams – though even that is arguable
The case against Admas was schiff to begin with and every democrat in congress would be in jail if SDNY prosecuted Adams conduct.
BUT DOJ would still have access to Rikers.
Any deal with DOJ would be valid.
Prosecutors routinely strike deals not to prosecute in return for something ele they want.
Access to Rikers allos the deportation of hundreds of illegal aliens.
@John Say
‘Prosecutors routinely strike deals not to prosecute in return for something ele they want.’
Indeed. Every day. All day long, everywhere. And the dems, particularly the Biden administration, likely broke records in that regard. This judge is fooling anyone. They could not be more brazenly partisan or ideologically accommodating if they tried. It’s absurd, it’s transparent, and it is despicable and unacceptable.
Rikers has been under oversight since 2015 and a Federal judge, May 13, 2025, put Rikers in receivership and out of city council control due to poor and dangerous conditions.
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😂 Bravo John Say on 1st paragraph. That’s right. Rikers has been transferred to private from the city council.
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A moment to regard Israel’s courage, bravery. In a world with one friend and that friend dissolving I take the moment to salute you.
IMHO
I say amen to that 🇺🇸 🇮🇱 ❤️
Except for Jews. They won’t replace us.
Jews got the news!