“Where You At?”: California Vice Mayor Under Investigation After Calling on Gangs to Protect Their “Turf” Against ICE

The Vice Mayor of Cudahy, Cynthia Gonzalez, is reportedly being investigated by the FBI after she posted a video urging criminal organizations like the 18th Street and Florencia 13 gangs to protect their “turf” against ICE. The call for gang action is disgraceful, particularly as ICE reports a 500 percent increase in attacks on its officers. However,  I do not believe that the comments can be the basis for a criminal charge and would be considered protected speech.

Gonzalez has now taken down the video below, but she earlier called for these gangs to move against ICE:

“Not for nothing, but I wanna know where all the cholos are at in Los Angeles? Eighteenth street, Florencia, where’s the leadership at? Because you guys are all about territory, and this is 18th Street and this is Florencia, you guys tag everything up — claiming hood, and now that your hoods being invaded, by the biggest gang there is, there ain’t a peep out of you…It’s everyone else who’s not about the gang life that’s out there protesting and speaking up, we’re out there like fighting our turf, protecting our turf, protecting our people, and like where you at?”

 

This is not the first time that Democratic politicians have enlisted violent groups as political allies.

Some Democrats have played a dangerous game in supporting or excusing the work of Antifa. Former Democratic National Committee deputy chair Keith Ellison, now the Minnesota attorney general, once said Antifa would “strike fear in the heart” of Trump. This was after Antifa had been involved in numerous acts of violence, and its website was banned in Germany.

Ellison’s son, Minneapolis City Council member Jeremiah Ellison, declared his allegiance to Antifa in the heat of the protests this summer. During a prior hearing, Democratic senators refused to clearly denounce Antifa and falsely suggested that the far right was the primary cause of recent violence.

The problem with being a free speech advocate is that you are often compelled to defend speech that you find grotesque and reprehensible. Gonzalez would shake the faith of any free speech champion. However, her speech would be considered protected under the First Amendment. First, it is sufficiently vague on what she is suggesting to counter a charge of a call for imminent violence. Second, the Supreme Court held that even violent speech is protected.

Indeed, in Brandenburg v. Ohio, a 1969 case involving “violent speech,” the court struck down an Ohio law prohibiting public speech that was deemed as promoting illegal conduct. It supported the right of the Ku Klux Klan to speak out, even though it is a hateful organization. Likewise, in RAV v. City of St. Paul in 2011, it struck down a ban on any symbol that “arouses anger, alarm or resentment in others on the basis of race, color, creed, religion or gender.” In Snyder v. Phelps, also in 2011, the court said the hateful protests of Westboro Baptist Church were protected.

The video may not be criminal, but it is still an indictment of how some Democratic politicians continue to pander to violent groups for political purposes. It is a dangerous game. History has shown that those who fuel extreme groups often find themselves later targets as mob rule takes hold. Gonzalez may find that she is also unwelcomed on their “turf.”

 

174 thoughts on ““Where You At?”: California Vice Mayor Under Investigation After Calling on Gangs to Protect Their “Turf” Against ICE”

  1. “Vice Mayor of Cudahy”? Wow, Turley, you really have to dig deep to try to find something, anything, to deflect away from Trump’s failures. He even got Israel to disagree with his own Defense Department assessment that the bombing of Iran would only set back their development of a nuclear weapon by a few months, after insulting Gabbard and disgreeing with her assessment that Iran was NOT close to a bomb. This is, of course, because Israel wants the US to fight it’s wars for them, and Trump will comply because wealthy Jews gave him millions to help cheat his way into office with his baseless promises. Israel’s intelligence is not superior to ours. And, then, there’s the announcement before the bombing that gave the Iranians time to move the critical materiel away from the sites that were bombed–they may well have already done that, and there are likely other sites where they are working on purifying nuclear material which we would know about if Trump hadn’t torn up the deal that Obama made with the Iranians that provided for oversight. As usual, he made an utter fool of himself by going on a rant against non-MAGA media at the NATO summit, and people are waking up to the realities of the Big Beautiful Bill that isn’t going to get passed–severe cuts to Medicaid that will force rural hospitals to close, will kick millions off of health coverage and force nursing homes to close, too. Trump thinks he can cancel the July 4 holiday for Congress, to try to force them to pass his disasterous budget that takes from the poor and rewards the very wealthiest. That’s not going to work, either.

    1. In case you weren’t aware, paragraph breaks are a thing. They make comments like yours sound less like a psychotic diatribe. Or maybe that was your intention. If so, good show.

    2. That’s quite the heap of raging TDS psycho-babble. Just curious if you ever came up for air ….. poor thing.

  2. Doesn’t Antifa stand for “anti-fascism”?

    Fascism is illegal and unconstitutional in the United States. Every American official – from DOJ to FBI to CIA to DoD – swears a supreme Oath of Office to oppose fascism.

    Maybe lawlessness begets more lawlessness?

    1. @Anonymous

      No, ‘Antifa’, stands for extraordinarily ignorant people having temper tantrums because the system won’t take care of them the way mommy and daddy did into perpetuity; as the younger generations are prone to do, the co-opted something that may have had meaning at one time and twisted it to serve their own personal comfort. Their actions are the violent temper tantrums of toddlers with knives, sad they cannot exist in a vacuum on this earth.

      The irony that they, with their group think, are the actual fascists, is lost on them, and always will be. No cure for that. I don;t know what we do with them. Nevertheless: when a toddler has a temper tantrum, you put them in the corner, if you don’t just spank them. And if you do, they learn real quick. When are people going to realize that due to parenting trends, virtually no one under the age of 35 is and actual grownup on this earth at present? and that you, the people who raised them this way, are going to have to live in that world too?

      Let it be said that anyone that righteously believes in Marxism or socialism or sharia law are the toddler-est of us all. Spineless, ignorant, pampered, cowards, all of them. Every single one of them, from top to bottom.

    2. “Doesn’t Antifa stand for “anti-fascism”?”

      Sure.

      In the same way that Crips stands for anti-Bloods.

  3. Why do NYC voters like airhead communists, like AOC and the guy who just won the Democratic primary for mayor? Only 25% even voted, shame on them.

    1. NEVER DID THE FOUNDERS INTEND FOR ONE-MAN, ONE-VOTE DEMOCRAZY.

      The vote was restricted by the Founders. America was established as a restricted-vote republic. Democracy has been of the restricted-vote type since inception in Greece and perpetuation in Rome and Washington D.C.

      Turnout was 11.6% in 1789 in the U.S.

      Voter qualifications were male, European, 21, and 50 lbs. Sterling/50 acres.
      _________________________________________________________________________________

      “the people are nothing but a great beast…

      I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value.”

      – Alexander Hamilton
      _________________________

      “The true reason (says Blackstone) of requiring any qualification, with regard to property in voters, is to exclude such persons, as are in so mean a situation, that they are esteemed to have no will of their own.”

      “If it were probable that every man would give his vote freely, and without influence of any kind, then, upon the true theory and genuine principles of liberty, every member of the community, however poor, should have a vote… But since that can hardly be expected, in persons of indigent fortunes, or such as are under the immediate dominion of others, all popular states have been obliged to establish certain qualifications, whereby, some who are suspected to have no will of their own, are excluded from voting; in order to set other individuals, whose wills may be supposed independent, more thoroughly upon a level with each other.”

      – Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, 1775
      _____________________________________________________

      “[We gave you] a republic, if you can keep it.”

      – Ben Franklin, 1787
      _______________________

      You couldn’t.
      ________________

      “We the People of the United States…secure the Blessings of Liberty TO OURSELVES and OUR POSTERITY.”

      – Preamble to the Constitution
      ___________________________________

      You didn’t.

      1. “[We gave you] a republic, if you can keep it.”

        – Ben Franklin, 1787

        We didn’t imagine that you would allow Confederate police state fascist Democrats to continue to exist”
        – Ben Franklin, rolling over in his grave for the last 20 years

  4. Their “Turf” is the Normies streets, schools, and neighborhoods. If I ran ICE, I would tear that town apart with immigration and law enforcement combined. And I would keep doing it until they fled.

  5. Of course her speech is protected but we know that the gangs that she calls to action are involved with drug dealing, rape and murder. She’s free to say it but it’s despicable nonetheless. We should not be surprised. Kamala called on her jackboots to continue the riots at the cost of billions of dollars in damage and twenty two deaths. Just considered collateral damage in the pursuit of their political careers. Straight from their bleeding hearts.

  6. George Washington was the Zelensky of his time.
    He combined forces with Comte Jean-Baptiste Rochambeau’s French army and pleaded for assistance from Admiral Francois de Grasse’s French fleet, then operating in the West Indies.
    Note the words “PLEADED FOR ASSISTANCE”.
    Pleading for assistance is what Zelenksy gets ridiculed for.
    But this is exactly what George Washington did, as well as Benjamin Franklin.
    The anti-Zelensky trolls might as well ridicule Washington.
    They owe their freedom to be trolls to the Zelensky of his time.

    1. Pretty sure Good old George wasn’t spending all that donated cash on his friends, unlike Zelensky.

  7. Off topic. CNN has down played the damage to Irans nuclear facilities. Here’s the satellite imagery. Judge for yourself. https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/post-attack-assessment-of-the-first-12-days-of-israeli-strikes-on-iranian-nuclear-facilities. The ventilator shafts were where the bunker buster bombs entered the facility. Penetrating hundreds of feet of earth wasn’t even necessary. Perhaps all the jumping for joy of a failed attack over at CNN will be muffled by the presentation of the evidence but I doubt it.

    1. Think

      So true. Heck we have no idea (if) anyone can even get in the buildings since the bombing. Stupid CNN.

  8. Sadly, it is the people who elect these officials. CA citizens get what they voted for — imagine not recalling Gavin Newsom! If anyone votes for him in the future — well, you’d have to question their motivations!

    Also, it is time to get voter IDs and also, to have election day the last day for voting. It is too easy to manipulate ballots without these sensible safeguards.

    Anyone against voter IDs supports corruption and manipulation. Please defend if you can!

  9. “However, I do not believe that the comments can be the basis for a criminal charge and would be considered protected speech.”

    And this is why Turley and others like him will ultimately lose. Know your enemy. The Dems will have no compunction stopping your protected speech whenever they get the chance. We’ll end up living in fear of saying — or even thinking — the wrong thing. But Turley will have his principles to give him comfort in the Gulag.

    1. Your comment makes no sense. The Professor is clearly in support of 100% protected free speech 🆓🆓🆓 . Then you slam him because of the conduct of ultra wing nut fringe politics trying to limit free speech? No connection.

      1. Did I say she should be arrested NO!
        But she should be careful with her words. Granted it’s to late now.
        If one of the gangs pulls the trigger, the game is on..

      2. Probably true, but lawfare is perfect for cases such as this. After all, a good prosecutor will find a law she is not above.

  10. All the talk is not going to solve this problem.
    Until we cut off all financial structure of the violent subcultures we will continuously be subjected to the results of their behavior.
    Any extremist group bent on destroying
    Th United States shouldn’t be fostered by it.
    Germany has banned Antifa there is no reason why the United States can’t freeze their assets and give them further incentives to leave or quit.

  11. nonWhites need to be eradicated from this nation. I’m tired of them being allowed to exist.

    1. @Anonymous

      You are a troll, and no one takes you seriously. For starters, real buck-toothed racists would not use the phrase, ‘non-whites’. Go blow.

      1. I hear a lot of racist democrats saying the equivalent of “non-whites” all the time. They dress it up in academic terms, like BIPOC. Sounds less Klansy that way.

      2. James: Please don’t feed the trolls. 🧌 They’ll come back for more.

  12. IMHO, anyone who supports the possibility of violence against law enforcement or government officials is guilty of accessory before the fact. They too are promoting violence and/or destruction and are no better than the person carrying out violence and/or destruction. Violence and/or destruction is easy and quick–Discussion and improvement (correcting laws on the books, working with neighborhoods and communities) takes (a lot of) patience and time.

  13. Kind of like Trump telling the Proud Boys to “stand by” don’t you think.

    Also, we should consider other extreme right wing gangs like the Oath Keepers, the Boogaloo Bois, the Patriot Front all of whom were embraced by Republicans.

    And what about Trump’s statement regarding “fine people on both sides” of the neo-nazi Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.

    Turley’s hypocrisy is never ending, and knows no limits

    1. If you couldn’t lie, you would not be able to post a comment here. Everything you said is a lie. The old “fine people on both sides” canard has been debunked so many times, including by liberal Snopes, that you only make yourself look ridiculous.

    2. We are tired of you, Anonymous. You never have anything constructive to say. You bring out tired, false tropes. You have no guts because you hide behind anonymity.

      1. Says someone commenting as ANONYMOUS !!!!

        Hypocrisy is the defining feature of the MAGA cult.

    3. Kind of like Trump telling the Proud Boys to “stand by” don’t you think.

      Kind of like Senator DEI Hire Harris running for VP, who told the Democrats violent street thugs in Black Liars & Marxists and Pantifa whose assault on the White House lasted over a day, “They should not stop”, don’t you think?

      Kind of like the now just retired Oval Office Vegetable, her boss who was running for president at the time joined with his DEI Hire, to praise them as “a courageous group of Americans”, don’t you think?

      Turley’s hypocrisy is never ending, and knows no limits

      Your desperate Marxist Useful Idiot channeling is a magnificent virtue signalling display proving you have no idea what that word means. Or embrace double standards, hypocrisy, and lies every time you hope they will put your favorite police state fascist Democrat in public office.

  14. The key is to change deportation law and fully reverse the industrialized lawbreaking by the Left in North America. Unfortunately, Trump’s 51% can’t do it politically without killing the filibuster (BTW, Democrats would kill the filibuster if they had the votes–don’t doubt me).

    The alternative is for the courts to change deportation law by legislating from the bench. Democrat judges legislate from the bench every day, but so far, the courts have had no useful response to the Democrats’ gaming of deportation law.

    Mr. Roberts apparently assumes the path of least resistance is for patriots to simply knuckle under to the globalist-leftists and accept their new role as the national scapegoats. This is a mistake of Taney proportions. We are not Europe.

    If the law can’t be changed by judges, it will be changed by generals. The Left will insist. When 49% of voters think like the radical Left, that’s already a constitutional crisis.

  15. 500% is not enough. These are violent thugs kidnapping people off the street. And many of them are not actually ICE. No one will save us but ourselves.

    1. It is my sincere hope that in future Trump and his secret police will stand trial for crimes against humanity.

          1. Here’s a tip, just because you assert something, doesn’t automatically make it true. Most people learn that as children, but even at your advanced age it’s still possible to learn.

          2. Trump wipes his ass with the Constitution and federal law.

            Look at you, Marxist soy boy! That kind of “reasoning” worked out so well for you in the election just over six months ago. I wonder if it impressed your Grindr date enough to work out for you some way or other!

      1. By “Secret police” are you referring to career ICE civil servants? And pray tell, what crimes are they committing in enforcing our existing laws and regulations? Are you going to include deporter-in-chief Obama in this fantasy trail as well? He did separate children from their parents and put them in cages, you know.

        How’s this for an actual crime, deliberately and maliciously failing to enforce our southern border, inviting millions of unvetted illegal aliens into the country. The Biden junta are lucky that they’re not hanging from lampposts for what they did over the last four years.

      2. It is my sincere hope that in future Trump and his secret police will stand trial for crimes against humanity.

        Crimes against humanity like Obama and Biden unleashing Iran’s genocidal neo-Nazi terrorists who had already slaughtered and maimed THOUSANDS of Americans alone? Never mind their fellow Muslims in Iran and other countries. Then Obama and Biden enriching them with pallets loaded with hundreds of dollars in unmarked bills, permitting them to fund more terrorist slaughter and work towards having viable nuclear weapons in their arsenal?

        Or is that Big D Democrat Different?

        If you have a single sincere bone in your police state fascist Democrat Birthing Person body, do you hope Obama/Clinton/Biden/Comey/ etc will stand trial for using their felonious “Trump Russia Dossier” so they could use their DOJ and FBI as their police state fascist STASI, removing the civil rights of THOUSANDS of Americans through color of law? Any sincere hopes for any trials there?

    2. Here we are folks, “othering” federal law enforcement and encouraging violence against federal agents. “Not actually ICE”, what are they, Einsatzgruppen? When you’re ready to return to reality, it will still be there.

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