We have been discussing the recently declassified material related to the Russian investigation, including disclosures of the role of former CIA director John Brennan at the end of the Obama Administration to reinforce the unfounded allegations of Russian collusion and influence. After an earlier intelligence assessment rejecting the narrative was effectively quashed, Brennan reportedly hand-picked the team to do a second rushed 2016 U.S. intelligence community assessment in the final days. We are now learning more about the person Brennan selected to head that team. Just the News and other outlets are revealing not just the extreme political bias of Susan Miller, but her remarkably poor handle on some key facts. The one unassailable fact that comes out of her postings is her declaration that “[I] am not a Trump fan.”
A review of Miller’s social media postings reveals intense hostility toward Donald Trump and his supporters, including calling the President a “dictator” and MAGA supporters “Nazis.” What is particularly notable is that she still maintains that the widely ridiculed Steele Dossier, secretly funded by the Clinton campaign, “might be true.” Despite the findings of the Special Counsel and various investigations, she has insisted that Trump may indeed be a “Russian asset” or a “Kremlin asset”
Miller recently retired but says that she continues to train CIA officers.
Brennan chose wisely if he wanted to ensure that a reliable political ally would draft the assessment. However, she has said that there were others in the CIA who wanted an actual finding that Trump’s election was illegitimate. That was the narrative pushed by Hillary Clinton and many Democrats after the 2016 loss. She suggested that that may still be true, a form of election denial that is still accepted on the left as they criticize Trump for his questioning of the 2020 defeat.
Miller appears to be one of the last diehards claiming that the Steele dossier could have also repeatedly still proved correct in its allegations.
Some interviews are striking in their conflicting elements, like insisting “all of us went in with a completely open mind” but that “they [the Russians] definitely wanted him [Trump].”
Miller also seemed to view the CIA’s role as part of a resistance, or at least counterforce to Trump: “I headed up the report team. … I wanted people who would speak truth to power.”
On social media, Miller comes across as unhinged at times in responding to stories with screeds like “This is awful! Further proof that Trump is a dictator.” She also wrote, “Good grief. As if we needed proof that MAGA types are nazis…”
She responded to a foreign poster by saying, “Yes….the Hitler analogy is not lost on a bunch of us…..sadly….”
In one of the most bizarre series of statements, Miller accuses Trump, Barr, and Durham of putting “me on trial” because she was interviewed in the various investigations.
She insisted in an interview with Times Radio in July that Trump got Barr and Durham “to open a trial on us…I spent 8 hours on trial; other team members also had trials. Not unexpectedly, nothing criminal was found.”
Just the News notes that Miller said again in June that “Trump put me on trial….criminal complaint after inauguration.” There is no indication of what that criminal complaint entailed, where it was filed, or what happened to it.
Miller appears to be struggling to make the case against Brennan and herself in carrying out this intelligence assessment. It is telling that, within the entire CIA establishment, Brennan would select Miller for this controversial report.
What is even more chilling is that top intelligence officials would continue to cling to debunked sources like Steele. It is the kind of intransigence common among those living in echo chambers created by news and social media sites. CIA analysts are supposedly trained to avoid such confirmation bias.
All of this makes for a great pitch to join figures like Clapper or McCabe with MSNBC or CNN contracts. It is less compelling in defending the work product of the CIA on this report.
George says:
“declaration under penalty of perjury” means that any false statement made on a document proven IN COURT to be false after being sworn under oath is perjury.
Cornell Law says:
“A declaration made under penalty of a perjury can be a signed written statement. Such a written statement need not be verified by oath or affirmation orally before the court if it contains the signed declaration that it is made under the penalties of perjury. The person presenting the statement submits themselves to be being charged with perjury and subject to the penalties assessed against a person found guilty of perjury if the statement is false. A declaration made under the penalties of perjury carries the same force and consequences as a sworn statement submitted under oath. ”
Who agrees with George that the moon is made of cheese?
One more time for the idiot George
He says
declaration under penalty of perjury” means that any false statement made on a document proven IN COURT to be false after being sworn under oath is perjury.
Cornell Law says:
A declaration made under penalty of a perjury can be a signed written statement. Such a written statement need not be verified by oath or affirmation orally before the court if it contains the signed declaration that it is made under the penalties of perjury.
Is the moon still made of cheese, George?
I just want to make an observation. Yes, he lies, but his presence has now basically taken over this comment section. I would rather he not live in our heads rent-free. Best simply not to read his comments (my approach).
Or, is GDS inevitable?
Without effective moderation, or a blocking feature, or even a like/dislike feature, we’re stuck having to shame the troll away.
It took a looooooong time to get rid of Dennis McInliar.
It may take a long time to get rid of George/Svelaz. I’m not sure what the right course of action is to accomplish that, but maybe when he has polluted the forum long enough, action will be taken to rid him as well.
Completely ignore is a good course of action.
Anonymous, you still don’t understand what the law is telling you. You are completely clueless because of your attrocious reading comprehension problem.
How is a penalty assessed? Who decides the penalty? The term “under penalty of perjury” is a warning that if you are proven to have intentionally lied on documents and you lie about it in court you have committed perjury.
In every court you are sworn in before any lawyer asks you a question regarding any document or statement. A false statement on any document is not perjury. It’s just a false statement and that’s a separate charge.
The penalty occurs only when you are under oath.
“ A declaration made under penalty of a perjury can be a signed written statement. Such a written statement need not be verified by oath or affirmation orally before the court if it contains the signed declaration that it is made under the penalties of perjury.“
A declaration need not be made under oath. The declaration itself is not perjury if you lied on it. The penalty comes AFTER you’re questioned about it in court AFTER you have been sworn in ( being under oath). This can also happen when you are being deposed because a deposition is also made under oath. Perjury is when you lie while under oath. Not when you lie on a document. That’s why there are separate charges of making false statments on documents. When you are questioned by a judge or lawyer under oath and lie about what you stated on the document you have committed perjury. “Under penalty of perjury” is the phrase you continually fail to understand.
Your have serious reading comprehension problems for sure.
Damn Georgie, did you really come back for more? Do you not realize how completely and utterly destroyed you were yesterday? What is wrong with you??
I haven’t seen Diogenes lately. I hope he’s okay.
And what ever happened to Iowan2? It seems like ages since he’s posted a comment.
thanks
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Let’s recap another of Epstein non-scandal obsessed, serial liar George’s lies.
On July 24th, at 7:21 AM, serial liar George said this:
“Turley “forgot” to mention the fact that Maxwell was also charged for perjury for lying in court. She’s in prison not only for facilitating Trump’s best buddy Epstein’s sex trafficking of minors but for constantly lying in court.”
On July 29th, at 9:14 PM, serial liar George said this:
“I didn’t say she testified in court. You did. I only said the FBI said to the court that she lied.”
George indeed initially said she lied “IN COURT”. He also said she is “IN JAIL BECAUSE she lied IN COURT”
Both of those statements were lies. Then he lied about having said those lies. The very definition of serial liar.
Stay tuned for more.
Anonymous, I think George has been trolling you. He’s probably intentionally lying just to keep goading you into responding. it’s becoming tiresome. George needs to take a break and so do you.
^^^^This is George, trying to get anon to stop showing him to be a complete imbecile.
From “Forbes”:
“Maxwell was charged with perjury based on answers she gave in a 2016 deposition regarding Epstein’s alleged abuse and her own complicity. The indictment against her cited multiple comments she made denying any knowledge of Epstein’s alleged abuse: When asked if Epstein had a “scheme to recruit underage girls for sexual massages,” she responded, “I don’t know what you’re talking about,” for instance, and she said she “was not aware of anybody that I interacted with” at Epstein’s properties being underage, other than a plaintiff involved in the civil lawsuit. Maxwell also testified under oath she was not aware of any “sex toys or devices” being used at Epstein’s properties, and that she had never personally given Epstein or any of his victims a massage. She also claimed she was unaware of Epstein engaging in “sexual activities” with anyone besides herself and two women she and Epstein had “three-way sexual activities with,” saying in her deposition, “I wasn’t aware that he was having sexual activities with anyone when I was with him other than myself.” When asked again by attorneys to confirm that her testimony was that she was “not aware” of Epstein having any other sexual partners, Maxwell doubled down, saying, “That is my testimony, that is correct.” Her statements conflict with charges in the indictment that Maxwell was later convicted on, which alleged Maxwell conducted massages and was “present for and participated in the abuse of minor victims,” among other allegations.”
HEY GIGI the Republican National Committee thanks you for your continuing unpaid contributions in converting Democrat and Independent voters into Republicans through your incessant, unhinged, and frankly bizarre rants. We’d like to offer you cash support if you’re willing to double or even triple your conversion ability. Keep up the good work!
Hey Tom: it was FORBES who wrote the above piece–which is factually accurate regarding Maxwell’s indictment for perjury, which is why she will have no credibilty if she tries to testify that Trump wasn’t heavily involved with Epstein. Sincerely, Not GIGI.
Hey GIGI aka Natasha, the colon copycatter and alleged lawyer who does not know how to properly quote text,
It was PROSECUTORS who decided to drop the flimsy ALLEGED perjury charges from an EARlier deposition [2016], because they were equivocal, i.e., “During her depositions, Maxwell denied knowledge of Epstein’s alleged abuse and claimed she had no involvement in any criminal activities. Prosecutors argued that her statements were false and demonstrated a pattern of dishonesty.”
From Google AI Search Assist–equal to your laudable sources.
And now she signs “Sincerely,” copied like when another poster signs off with “Truly Yours,” etc.
Is this supposed to mean something, Gigenius??
FROM THE DOJ:
“GHISLAINE MAXWELL, 58, is charged with one count of enticing a minor to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, which carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, one count of conspiracy to entice a minor to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, which carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, one count of transporting a minor with the intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison, one count of conspiracy to transport a minor with the intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, which carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, and two counts of perjury, each of which carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison.
The statutory maximum penalties are prescribed by Congress and are provided here for informational purposes only, as any sentencing of the defendant would be determined by the judge.
Ms. Strauss praised the outstanding investigative work of the FBI and the NYPD.
This case is being handled by the Office’s Public Corruption Unit. Assistant U.S. Attorneys Alex Rossmiller, Alison Moe, and Maurene Comey are in charge of the prosecution.
The charges contained in the Indictment are merely accusations. The defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.”
Gigenius has claimed MANY times in the past that allegations are not evidence. Yet, in this instance she believes that allegations are FACTS. Allegations that are supported ONLY by the testimony of those who stood to gain from their statements.
And as usual, Gigenius uses NON SOURCES for her rants.
Forbes is not a source, Gigenius.
Are you also under the impression, as George was, that she was even tried for perjury??? She was not. So what does your lame post have to do with George’s lies?
“Anonymous. You don’t understand what perjury is. Lying on a form is not perjury.”
More lies from the serial liar George
Lets ask Cornell Law…
declaration under penalty of perjury
Declaration under penalty of perjury is a statement of facts or testimony accompanied by the declaration that the person making the statement will be found guilty of perjury if the facts declared in the statement are shown to be untrue.
A declaration under penalty of perjury typically follows such language: “I declare (or certify, verify, or state) under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America that the foregoing is true and correct.”
A declaration made under penalty of a perjury can be a signed written statement, such as an affidavit. Such a written statement need not be verified by oath or affirmation orally before the court if it contains the signed declaration that it is made under the penalties of perjury. The person presenting the statement submits themselves to be being charged with perjury and subject to the penalties assessed against a person found guilty of perjury if the statement is false. A declaration made under the penalties of perjury carries the same force and consequences as a sworn statement submitted under oath.
See: 28 U.S.C. § 1746
But George continues to claim the moon is made of cheese. He is the dumbest of the dumb because he doesn’t even recognize the correct answer when told.
At this point it’s fair to assume that Georgie lies because she wants to lie, even if the truth is easier. What a train wreck of a person she is.
And she doubles down on her lies!! I don’t know why we would have expected anything less from a serial liar like George.
ROFL!!
Wow, you’re getting worse.
You think lying on a form is perjury. Only when you are swear an oath can you be charged with perjury.
A declaration need not be affirmed by an oath BEFORE a court. The only time the penalty of perjury can be imposed is when you swear an oath in court and you are asked if the statements made on a form are true and you lie about it In court and prosecutors can show you are indeed lying to the court then you can be charged with perjury.
Lying on the documents is not perjury.
“declaration under penalty of perjury” means that any false statement made on a document proven IN COURT to be false after being sworn under oath is perjury.
Lying in the documents themselves is not perjury. It’s just lying in a document and there is a seperate charge. If you are asked about the statements in court and you answer by lying, then it is an additional charge of committing perjury. That’s why you have a lawywer speaking on your behalf because you are not lying. Your lawyer is.
Lying on a federal form is not perjury. That is still true. I thought you were smarter.
More lies from the serial liar in chief. Georgie, you just keep doubling down on your lies, even when it’s shown right to your lying face that you’re wrong. Stop lying George. Stop lying about Maxwell and her non-existent testimony and non-existent conviction for perjury. Stop lying about your lies. You must be the dumbest and worst liar that anyone here has ever seen.
“The only time the penalty of perjury can be imposed is when you swear an oath in court and you are asked if the statements made on a form are true and you lie about it In court and prosecutors can show you are indeed lying to the court then you can be charged with perjury.”
Trnaslated “The moon is made of cheese”
Please tell us George, was Hunter convicted “under the penalty of perjury”, or not?
If not, please tell us what he was convicted of, because he NEVER “lied in court”.
Res Ipsa Loquitor
Talk about “reading comprehension,” you clown georgie!
Do you see where anonymous says, “A declaration made under the penalties of perjury carries the same force and consequences as a sworn statement submitted under oath.” ???????????????????????????????????????????/////
That is a completely true statement, and your ignorance in calling it either false or a “reading comprehension
problem just points back to your own incompetence.
“You think lying on a form is perjury.”
No, imbecile, I think that lying on a form that says “under penalty of perjury” means “The person presenting the statement submits themselves to be being charged with perjury and subject to the penalties assessed against a person found guilty of perjury if the statement is false. A declaration made under the penalties of perjury carries the same force and consequences as a sworn statement submitted under oath. ”
You think you have to repeat the lie in court. Cornell Law says otherwise. And so does 28 USC 1746.
One more time for you, reading comprehension boy.
A declaration made under the penalties of perjury carries the same force and consequences as a sworn statement submitted under oath.—Cornell Law
I MHO Legally it is a parallel equivalent to a comparison of slander versus libel, where one is written and the other spoken, same kind of equivalence. Perjury versus falsifying a legal affidavit are both knowingly giving false response/testimony in sworn statement to truth. Quack quack…
“The only time the penalty of perjury can be imposed is when you swear an oath in court and you are asked if the statements made on a form are true and you lie about it In court”
George makes another stupid gaff, but who is surprised.
Maxwell was charged with perjury. She made NO statements “IN COURT”.
Much like driving past a car wreck on the highway, it’s hard to look away from the disaster that is serial liar George desperately trying to cover up for his previous lies. I don’t know why George just keeps doubling down on his lies. No credibility George, serial liar George. What a tool.
He was not wrong about Maxwell lying in her deposition and being charged with perjury.
White knighting for George, how sad. That’s not what George lied about, he said that she testified in court and was convicted of perjury. And she’s still lying about his lies. It’s just pathetic.
That is George responding as Anon.
He does it all the time to try and cover his tracks.
Thats not what you said, serial liar George.
You said she “lied in court” and that she was “in jail for lying in court”. Both are FALSE.
Aren’t YOU Anon? You look like you’re arguing with yourself.
Cute, you’re so funny when you try to talk down to people. Problem is, you’re pretty much at the bottom of the totem pole of humanity, so you don’t have that right.
If it looks like that you, you’re not even as bright as double digit IQ, serial liar George.
I don’t think anyone is even paying attention to your argument witih George. They are ignoring both of you.
Personally I’m enjoying watching the liar George get slapped around for his constant prevarications.
You wish, George. And it look like you’re paying attention LOL.
Winning!
Senate confirms Emil Bove to Third Circuit, as Dems fail to thwart Trump pick
MAGA
Criminal Law
Excerpt:
“The Pains and Penalties of Perjury: Legal Consequences Explained”
“Perjury charges arise when an individual knowingly makes a false statement under oath during a legal proceeding, such as in court trials, depositions, or written affidavits. Under 18 U.S.C. 1621, the false statement must be material to the proceeding, meaning it could influence the outcome. This principle was emphasized in United States v. Gaudin.”
https://legalclarity.org/the-pains-and-penalties-of-perjury-legal-consequences-explained/
https://www.federalcharges.com/perjury-laws-charges/
-Oddball
Anyone think that super internet lawyer genius Georgie will read this and actually learn something? Nah, she’s just a low-IQ dolt who repeats stale talking points. What a sad life George has, trolling a blog for nickels.
A federal gun form is not an affidavit. Do you take an oath before you sign your gun forms?
Hey super genius George, when are you going to finally come clean and stop all of your serial lying? Like when you lied about Maxwell being convicted of perjury from false testimony given in court? That’s a lie, and you just keep doubling down on it. Your parents might gain a modicum of respect for you if you just stopped lying.
You dont have to, idiot.
What were 2 of the three gun counts that Hunter was convicted of? LYING on the form.
Do you know what “Under penalty of perjury ” is?
“Do you know what ‘Under penalty of perjury ‘ is?”
George doesn’t know much, but she sure has a lot of strong opinions.
Under penalty of perjury meaning if he testifies under oath. Lying on the form is not perjury.
Oh my god you are a complete idiot. Everyone, we’re very lucky, we’re witnesses to the newest chain of lies from George. Notice how she immediately doubles down on the first lie with another lie. George, you have no credibility here due to your existing, proven serial lying, why do you insist on digging further?
Anonymous. You don’t understand what perjury is. Lying on a form is not perjury. Lying while under oath is. Perjury happens only when you’re shown to have lied under oath. Here is where your reading comprehension problem persists.
Why would anyone read a word that a proven serial liar like George writes here? George, you’re still lying about your previous lies about Maxwell having testifed under oath in court, and her having been convicted of perjury. So it’s only natural to dismiss anything else that you write as yet another lie. It’s like we’re dealing with a toddler here, folks. Just lie after lie after lie.
It doesnt matter, George. You said it under the context that he couldnt be charged for lying on the form. Under penalty of perjury is ON THE FORM. It carries the same weight as an oath.
Perjury vs. False Statements:
While the term “perjury” typically refers to lying under oath, making false statements on the ATF Form 4473 is considered a federal crime, even though it’s not technically under oath. The law criminalizes making false statements during the purchase of firearms, aiming to prevent illegal activities.
Unsworn Declaration:
The phrase “under penalty of perjury” is used in unsworn declarations, which are statements that have the same legal weight as sworn affidavits but don’t require the formal oath-taking process.
Purpose:
This declaration is used to streamline legal procedures and allow for the use of written statements where a formal oath might be impractical. It’s commonly used in situations like bankruptcy filings, tax returns, and other legal documents.
Consequences:
By signing “under penalty of perjury,” a person acknowledges that they understand they could face perjury charges and penalties if they make false statements.
When did Hunter swear under oath, serial liar? NEVER. Yet he was convicted of TWO COUNTS of “under penalty of perjury”, making false statements on the form. FACT. And the moon is not made of cheese.
Hahahaha more legal “analysis” from serial liar George. This is even worse than when she tried to pass herself off as an expert in FARA. George, you are such a freaking joke. Stop upvoting yourself, loser.
“Under penalty of perjury meaning if he testifies under oath.”
WRONG. He was convicted of it, you simpleton. And he didn’t say a word in court or under oath. LMAO
“The moon is made of cheese”—George
In George’s case, she’d probably say that the moon is made of non-existent Maxwell testimony and non-existent Maxwell convictions. Such a terrible liar.
“Under penalty of perjury meaning if he testifies under oath.”
WRONG
Under penalty of perjury means its a “unsworn declaration” which carries the same legal weight as a sworn affidavit.
When did Hunter take an oath??? NEVER. Yet he was convicted for LYING ON THE FORM. Here NEVER TESTIFIED UNDER OATH, yet he was slapped with the PENALTY OF PERJURY.
CONVICTED under the penalty of perjury. End of story.
George continues to claim that “under penalty of perjury” means if you later make a false statement under oath.
What a dunce. What a simpleton. What a stooge. When did Hunter make a false statement under oath, George?
Have you no shame, looking like a complete imbecile before thousands of people???
“Have you no shame, looking like a complete imbecile before thousands of people???”
She brazenly and obviously lies, even lies about her lies. It’s sociopathic.
“Under penalty of perjury meaning if he testifies under oath.”
Please cite ONE legal source to back that claim. Just ONE, George that explains that if you sign it and its false, you are just ackowledging a fact, and not placing yourself in legal jeopardy. Just ONE George.
ATF form 4473 is a federal gun form affidavit that includes a self certification that the person is eligible to purchase and own a gun.
Clapper???
Interesting news
Interesting tidbit in Jim Clapper’s 2018 memoir that seems to contradict the latest timeline.
Clapper says Obama ordered the Russian intel assessment on Dec. 5, not Dec. 6 as the recent CIA review of the ICA indicated.
Why? Obama appears to have been ticked off that Donald Trump was named Person of the Year by Time:
Clapper: “[The] public dialogue about Russian interference was heating up. Seeming to fear it called the legitimacy of his election into question, the president-elect responded defensively whenever the subject was raised.
In an interview with Time magazine on November 28, he countered a question on Russian activities with, ‘I don’t believe they interfered. That became a laughing point, not a talking point, a laughing point.’ Asked who he thought had hacked the Democrats’ email accounts and IT systems, he responded, ‘It could be Russia. And it could be China. And it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey.’
Time for some good news!
Private company hiring bounced back with a 104,000 increase in July, ADP says
Plus our econ is growing.
Thanks Prez Trump.
That smell you just noticed is from Georgie crapping her panties. Of course, that happens routinely anyway, since her Johns are pretty rough.
“Truth to Power” is the Democratic National Communists Party line to justify Sedition against the Constitutional Republic form of Government!!!!!!!!!!!
I think one must get down to the fact that John Brennan was a somewhat malignant presence in the CIA. One must also wonder how he got picked by Barack Obama. Wonder what any e-mails and letters passed between them before that pick was made. In fact an important part of any investigation should include a deep dive on how Brennan surfaced and was picked, who recommended him, who promoted him and assisted his rise in the CIA.
His apparent hate and unhinged thinking could not have been unknown in the CIA as he climbed the rungs of power. If his minions are all through the CIA then I have significant worry about the assessments of this part of the intelligence community. The same should also apply to Comey and Clapper.
On Second thought maybe they should just shut down the CIA and start over.
“the fact that John Brennan was a somewhat malignant presence in the CIA…” What absolute nonsense. You make up stuff just like George.
You have no idea how JB was perceived in the CIA. You cannot possibly know that. You lie.
Ano
It shows, you don’t pay much attention
And you’re gonna tell folks you know that as a fact. You worked at the CIA right? Knew JB personally? Good Lord, you read rep propaganda and fall for whatever they write?
You’re no different from libs you hate. You zombie.
Crybaby loser ^^^
At this point in the process of his inevitable criminal prosecution and incarceration, I’d say that the lack of any real support for Brennan, other than from his co-conspirators, is what’s known as a “tell”.
*. GEB, a note about AI. I’ve noticed the use of the word “one” in spoken and written language. Avoid it if possible. One what? Substitute “a person” or such. Tracking AI.
While Millers biases are concerning – more deeply concerning is that almost a decade later with mountains of evidence exposed. she STILL adheres to beleif in things that were ALWAYS highly unlikely.
It does not matter whether this is about Trump or Obama, or …
She is/was an analyst – and apparently a ranking one at m CIA, and she is unable to let go of long ago debunked garbage ?
This is beyond bias, and heavily into irrational, and we need to purge people who are this irrational from all decision making and advisory positions in government.
It does not matter whether their political biases are left or right. But clinging to positions that were highly improbable to start, thoroughly investigated by just about the entire world for over a decade is someone we do NOT want making decisions or providing advice or analysis that this country relies on.
But you don’t know all the data Miller knows and you assume from your position that the information you know is all there is. Miller had access to classified information as well as what is available to the public and perhaps has better context with the information that Miller has full access to.
That’s why trying to arm-chair analyze Miller’s position is at best still an assumption. Even for Turley.
The CIA makes decisions on best probable outcomes when the information is not perfectly clear. Experts like Miller can make a much better educated assumption from years of experience and access to information the public will never see. MAGA feeds off the lack of precise information to build the wild conspiracy theories and runaway rabbit hole arguments that create things like the Epstein files scandals. They become self-sustaining circular logic traps for the willfully ignorant.
George, why should anyone give a crap about what you “think” given the proven fact that you are a serial liar? When are you going to just admit that you lied about Maxwell testifying under oath and being convicted of perjury?
How “probable” was the pee tape, George?
How “probable” was Alpha Bank, George?
What a stooge.
How “probable” is is that George is just a sub-moron who copies and pastes from google? I’d say that’s about 100% likely.
Mostly from The Guardian, The Atlantic, and Politico. Oh, and Jimmy Fallon
“Miller had access to classified information as well as what is available to the public and perhaps has better context with the information that Miller has full access to.
“That’s why trying to arm-chair analyze Miller’s position is at best still an assumption.”
Funny how you give the benefit of the doubt to Miller — but *not* to Bondi, Patel, Gabbard.
*. There is a heaven, John Say, and this is far away from heaven. Yes, truth matters.
Hey everyone, point and laugh at loser George, so obsessed with her lying that the very first thing she does in the morning, other than to kick out her John, is to post more irrelevant crap on the respected blog of a law professor. Why don’t you get lost, serial liar George? You have no credibility at all here, you’re just a liar.
At this point we have to assume that “George” here lies so much because she likes it, not because she has to. She has no credibility to protect, so why else would she keep lying over and over again?
Awww, Anonymous is upset about the fact he has twisted himself into a mess because of his obsession with an issue he misunderstood a long time ago. Poor Anonymous.
George, are you still here? Aren’t you embarrassed in the slightest to be caught out as a serial liar? No shame at all in being a serial liar? You’re such a pathetic loser George. I can’t believe that you’re so freaking lame that you roll out of your sleeping bag under the bridge and immediately pollute this comment section with your crap lies. Just go away.
Ghislaine Maxwell wants her sentence reduced and immunity before testifying.
Ghislaine Maxwell will not receive a reduced sentence or immunity before testifying because Ghislaine Maxwell had nothing to testify to then and Ghislaine Maxwell has nothing to testify to now.
Ghislaine Maxwell would be as dead as Jeffrey Epstein if she had anything to reveal.
Ghislaine Maxwell will take the 5th and go back to Club Fed.
The witnesses will be silenced, and the courts will seal the records so as not to injure the innocent, causing the communist media to go silent on the non-story.
She answered DOJ’s questions for nine hours over two days last week. What do you think she was talking about? Why would DOJ stick around for two days if she had nothing to reveal?
Do tell!
*. OMFK, I’ve reached Epstein fatigue. SCOTUS sometime in October. New trial. Risky, she might get a longer sentence.
The evidence isn’t solid but who needs evidence.
Idk
*. MSM is being used as osyops. It’s so evident in cnn , tv the view junk etc.
Just look for the propaganda storyline. Psyops fatigue.
Look at what YOU actually see. The price of eggs today dropped 5 dollars from 11. Haven’t checked gasoline. This is true. Watermelons aren’t sweet and beef is not good. Truth.
Roger
*. Prison cameras are bad. What was Noelle the guard doing taking sheets up the stairs and who was that 3rd person. Noelle do the job?
Roger
Exactly…demmies futile effort to poison the well
Oldmanfromkansas, perhaps they were making sure she had her new story straight or they were making sure she would name drop anyone besides Trump. Trump’s DOJ is focused on protecting Trump.
Still lying Georgie? Like when you said that Maxwell lied in testimony under oath in a court, and that she was convicted of perjury? How about some facts Georgie: none of that is true. When will you ever come clean about your serial lying, Georgie?
“Trump’s DOJ is focused on protecting Trump.”
You mean, like his “wing man”?
You’re such a stooge.
Watch the jail video. Who had the sheets? Who didn’t check every 30 minutes as posted?
ROLF!!. I was right.
“ Trump says Epstein ‘stole’ Virginia Giuffre and other young women from Mar-a-Lago”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5426114-trump-says-epstein-stole-young-women-workers-from-mar-a-lago-spa/amp/
Trump was aware Epstein was recruiting women from Trump’s club. He didn’t like that Elstein was stealing his employees but wasn’t concerned about the trafficking. Wow.
“ Speaking to reporters on Air Force One upon his return to Scotland, Trump went into further detail on Tuesday, claiming that one of those employees included Virginia Giuffre, who was one of Epstein’s most vocal accusers and once worked at the resort spa. She died by suicide in April.
“I don’t know. I think she worked in the spa, I think so. I think that was one of the people — yeah, he stole her. And by the way, she had no complaints about us, as you know. None whatsoever,” the president said of Giuffre.“
She probably included Trump in her complaints which would be in the Epstein files. No wonder he’s so insistent on not releasing the files now.
Hey George, are you ever going to come clean about your lies regarding Maxwell? We’re still waiting for all of your evidence that she lied under oath, but oddly you just can’t seem to produce it. Probably because you’re just lying out your rear end again. George, we’re getting pretty tired of your lies, can you just stop already?
I did give you evidence that she lied. Its not my fault you chose to ignore it. Perjury is when you lie under oath. She was charged with perjury. But, the DOJ decided not go forward with those charges because of her conviction on the sex trafficking of minors charges.
What evidence did Georgie give us that Maxwell lied under oath during court testimony, leading to a conviction of perjury in court, as he asserted in the beginning? None, of course, because that evidence does not exist, except in George’s diseased head. Take a break sweetie, you lost this round before it even started.
“ What evidence did Georgie give us that Maxwell lied under oath during court testimony, leading to a conviction of perjury in court, as he asserted in the beginning? ”
I didn’t say she testified in court. You did. I only said the FBI said to the court that she lied. You got a whole different take on it because of your reading comprehension problem. You seem to keep adding more facts not in evidence.
Some day Georgie here might stop lying, but apparently that’s not today. Keep it up Georgie, that hole that you’re digging just keeps getting deeper and deeper!!! Hahahahaha
Georgie, did you forget your stupid name completely this time? Hahahahaha you’re such a lying loser. Get a freaking life man, how many times do you think you’re going to post the same tired lies before everyone just tunes you out? I’d say that’s already the case.
You keep answering. You’re here all day. It seems you’re the one without a life.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/7061-u-s-v-ghislaine-maxwell-indict/96d918f9d16dbd14e656/optimized/full.pdf
Serial liar George, you pathetic googling just keeps proving that you lied, as usual. She didn’t lie under oath in court, like you said. Just stop lying George, you’ll be a better person for it.
George, why do you spend your life lying constantly on the blog of a law professor? No matter how many times you post your lies here, you’ll never get a date. Cheers!!
“Probably” is an unsupported opinion with absolutely no facts of any kind to base it on.
I “could” be true – and pigs might fly – but the odds of it being true are near zero.
This is one of the problems with those of you on the left.
You bet long on everything.
Once in a while a longshot comes in – though I have yet to recall a single left wing long shot ever proving true.
But 10 longshots in a row – that does not happen in the real world.
It is possible that unreleased epstein material mentions Trump – it is not likely – if it did it would have leaked long ago.
It is possible that Durham’s classified annex is harmful to Trump – it is not likely – if it did it would have been leaked long ago.
If it did – Mueller would have found that.
Trump is the most investigated person on the planet and todate you have found NOTHING.
AFRICAN COMMUNISTS IN AMERICA:
– OMAR FATEH, Somalian Minneapolis Mayoral Candidate and Minnesota State Senator
– ZOHRAN MAMDANI, Ugandan New York City Mayoral Candidate
– BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA SR., Kenyan-Citizen Father of Barack Hussein Obama, Former Ineligible U.S. President
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“OBAMA’S TREASONOUS CONSPIRACY OF FOREIGN ALLEGIANCES”
NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
Barack Hussein Obama was prohibited by John Jay, George Washington, the Framers, and the Constitution from becoming the president due to his foreign allegiances, which were bestowed by his socialist-cum-communist, anti-Colonialist, anti-American, anti-British, African-citizen father, author of his 1965 article “Problems Facing Our Socialism” referenced below.
Jay and Washington were in complete agreement that “the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.” In The Law of Nations, Vattel’s definition of “natural born citizen” required parents (i.e. plural) and/or a father who were citizens.
Obama conducted a vast left-wing conspiracy, an attempted coup, against President Donald J. Trump.
Obama was never eligible for the presidency due to his communist allegiances, which comprised his “Dreams From My Father.”
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John Jay to George Washington, 25 July 1787
From John Jay
New York 25 July 1787
Dear Sir
I was this morning honored with your Excellency’s Favor of the 22d Inst: & immediately delivered the Letter it enclosed to Commodore Jones, who being detained by Business, did not go in the french Packet, which sailed Yesterday.
Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.
Mrs Jay is obliged by your attention, and assures You of her perfect Esteem & Regard—with similar Sentiments the most cordial and sincere I remain Dear Sir Your faithful Friend & Servt
John Jay
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Law of Nations
Book 1, Chpt 19
§ 212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
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AI Overview
Barack Obama Sr., in his 1965 article “Problems Facing Our Socialism”, critiqued the Kenyan government’s approach to “African Socialism” outlined in Sessional Paper No. 10
. His main arguments and concerns included:
Lack of Clear Definition: Obama Sr. questioned the meaning of “African Socialism” and whether it was truly distinct from other socialist models or merely a vague political slogan.
Overemphasis on Economic Growth Without Addressing Inequality: He argued that despite Kenya’s economic growth, the government’s policies were not effectively addressing the issues of poverty, unemployment, and unequal income distribution, particularly the concentration of economic power in the hands of foreign (European and Asian) groups.
Concerns about “Gratuitous Privatization”: Obama Sr. warned about the potential negative consequences of unregulated privatization of productive resources and public goods.
Uneven Regional Development: He also highlighted the problem of uneven development across different regions of Kenya.
Ineffectiveness of Attempts to Lure People Back to Rural Areas: He recognized the futility of government attempts to encourage people to return to rural areas when they couldn’t make a living from the land they possessed.
In essence, Obama Sr.’s critique called for a more nuanced and effective approach to development that prioritized social justice and addressed the deep-seated inequalities that persisted in Kenya after independence. His arguments were considered quite perceptive and ahead of their time, anticipating many of the challenges that Kenya would face in the years to come.
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Sorry PT for off topic, look at Sidney Sweeney’s ultra soft porn ad and guess her age. I guessed 17. She’s 27!
Another killer in NY, another tragedy. Black’s are 14% of the population and commit 50% of the murders. Take guns away from blacks and murder rate declines. Spanish speakers commit another 35% of murders. Remove the guns. That’s a drop by 85% in murder rate. 15% of murders remain. Would that work?
Ah, can’t be done.
Cdc data claims guns are used to Prevent violent crimes like rape and murder at the rate of 1 to 2 million cases annually. More guns make us more safer the data is clear.
OT. Anyone have a link to 2008 Epstein grand jury testimony? Post it.
There’s Epstein’s district Florida and Maxwell’s district southern district of NY. Class action.
Habeas petition filed by Maxwell. A juror lied on his questionnaire. New trial.
Maxwell said she’ll only testify after SCOTUS opinion and with full immunity. There won’t be testimony August 11.
Till we meet again…
I guess American Eagle genes are a white market. Lawsuit to follow. Freedom to advertise aka speech and press. Thank you Larry Flynt.
*. Also, anyone have a link to Maxwell’s depositions? They were unsealed before the criminal prosecution.
Maxwell was not a trafficker. She was not a Madame of underage girls. She didn’t take money if someone used them for instance. Maxwell is a wealthy woman. She is also suing the Epstein estate.
Fatigue
George is referencing the depositions. They were sealed and can’t be used as evidence in a criminal trial and were used.
Fatigue
“ George is referencing the depositions. They were sealed and can’t be used as evidence in a criminal trial and were used.”
Depositions were used as evidence. That’s what they used to charge Maxwell. The perjury charges were also going to be used since it’s the depositions that proved Maxwell lied under oath.
Whats the justification for their inadmissibility?
“were also going to be used”
That’s a pretty fancy way of saying “were not used”
Stupid lying George, at it again. Never used, never under oath, never cross examined, just another big-ole George lie. Sadly, we’re used to it by now.
They were used. She was charged with perjury because of what she said in her deposition which was done under oath. Perjury is when you lie under oath.
They were going to hold a separate trial on the perjury charges. But, they chose not to once she was convicted of the more serious sex trafficking of minors crimes. None of that is a lie.
Show us the conviction buddy boy. You can’t, because she was never convicted of perjury from court testimony, as you said originally, but which you are now desperately trying to run away from. Can anyone take anything you say seriously, as you’re the real liar, aren’t you?
Still waiting for your evidence that she lied under oath, in court. We’ll we waiting for a very long time, since it doesn’t exist, and you’re just a big ole unrepentant liar yourself.
I personally would like to thank GIGI here for being such an irritating spaz that she actually moves people into the Republican column. Thanks GIGI, never give up the fight!!!
I for one was on the fence last election until I read her screeds.
Scary, sick commentary for sure.
Hamilton Colemen: I am NOT Gigi, and what I wrote is a quotation from Marco Rubio (who has not, to my knowledge, recanted his conclusions), plus the fact that Ghislaine Maxwell was indicted for perjury at least twice in her civil lawsuits filed by victims of her and Epstein. If you are someone who has a problem with facts like this, you should not be allowed to vote. Do you WANT Maxwell to get out of jail in exchange for making up things to help Trump try to deflect attention away from his yearslong involvement with Epstein–or are you just one of the paid MAGA trolls who think if you attack people who disclose facts counter to the MAGA narrative that you can sway the thousands of non-MAGAs who read this blog? Attacking me isn’t going to change the facts and the conclusions they point to.
Trump and Epstein were friends for years–there’s too much video and still photographic evidence that proves this. Trump DID fly on Epstein’s plane numerous times–there are flight logs that prove this. There are numerous references in the Epstein file about Trump–what they say and what they prove, we don’t know, but Trump has commanded the FBI to flag references to him, he got Bondi to say “there’s nothing to see here” and now, he’s trying to get Maxwell to gin up lies to cover up whatever is in the files in exchange for clemency or a commutation of her sentence–that should alarm anyone. It stinks, and any reasonable person would conclude that the files contain evidence that Trump is ashamed of–and probably for good reasons.
Oh GIGI, be proud of who you are, a total freaking spaz who doesn’t even read the garbage that she copies and pastes, and who drives people to vote Republican out of pure irritation. The Republican National Committee thanks you for your get-out-the-vote service!! If you need any funding, just let us know!!!
Trump is dragging the left into the Epstien swamp to drown them. They think they can still control the news cycle but Trump is the director now and he is flooding the zone with so much signal they can’t focus on a single item.
It’s literally amazing–did you hear Trump’s windmill rant in Scotland? It was literally embarrassing, but you are trying to claim that Trump’s refusal to keep his promise to release the Epstein files, his failed efforts to divert attention to MLK and Obama, his demand that news media stop reporting on this, and his efforts to get Maxwell to lie for him is somehow “directing” media that prevents those of us who find him repulsive unable to focus? There’s no method to his madness–and it IS madness. He’s caught with his drawers down (maybe on film with an underage girl–we’ll eventually find out), and he knows it. The usual deflection tactics aren’t working. Republicans can try to do everything possible to cover for him, including discharging the House early to prevent a vote on a bill commanding the release of the files–but that’s not working, either.
GIGI you’re freaking hilarious, the only one deflecting is you and your pathetic ilk. Why don’t you ask your Obama judges to let the administration release the files? Why are Democrat judges blocking the release? God are you pathetic.
I really don’t understand what was going on at the CIA, FBI etc. They were clearly using government devices to make disparaging communication about Trump (especially Strock, his gal-pal and McCabe). Isn’t that a violation of the Hatch Act?