Running it up the Flagpole: Why the Trump Order on Flag Burning is Unconstitutional

In the advertising world, there is an old adage that there are times when you take a pitch and “run it up the flagpole and see who salutes.” That expression came to mind yesterday when President Donald Trump signed an order to punish flag burning. The President may be hoping that the Supreme Court might salute and reverse long-standing precedent declaring flag burning to be protected speech under the First Amendment. If so, he is likely to be disappointed. The proposed prosecutions would be unconstitutional and, absent an unlikely major reversal of prior precedent by the Court, flag burning will remain a protected form of free speech.

The Supreme Court has repeatedly, and correctly, declared flag desecration to be protected speech in such cases as Texas v. Johnson (1989) and United States v. Eichman (1990). The order seeks to evade those cases by focusing on acts that violate “applicable, content-neutral laws, while causing harm unrelated to expression, consistent with the First Amendment.” When such violations occur (such as burning material within public lands or buildings), federal prosecutors would “prioritize the enforcement of … criminal and civil laws” as to “destruction of property laws” or “open burning restrictions.”

The problem is that, while the precursor is content-neutral, the enhancement of the penalty by a year in jail is not. The whole point of the order is that it is content-based and thus unconstitutional.

The order makes the content-based criteria obvious by declaring flag burning as “uniquely offensive and provocative” of “contempt, hostility, and violence against our Nation—the clearest possible expression of opposition to the political union that preserves our rights, liberty, and security.”

The test of free speech principles is your willingness to defend speech that you find offensive or grotesque. For most of us, there are few acts more offensive than the burning of the American flag. That is precisely why extremists use those symbols to vent their rage.

That is the line that has been held by the Supreme Court, including conservative icons like Justice Antonin Scalia. Scalia was the fifth vote in the Johnson decision that upheld flag burning in Texas. The majority opinion, written by Justice William Brennan, declared “if there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.”

Despite the objections from many, Scalia later again voted against a federal law that banned flag burning in Eichman.

Scalia continued to defend his votes in public comments. He stressed that “if it were up to me, I would put in jail every sandal-wearing, scruffy-bearded weirdo who burns the American flag. But I am not king.”

He later added:

Yes, if I were king, I would not allow people to go about burning the American flag. However, we have a First Amendment, which says that the right of free speech shall not be abridged. And it is addressed, in particular, to speech critical of the government. I mean, that was the main kind of speech that tyrants would seek to suppress.

Burning the flag is a form of expression. Speech doesn’t just mean written words or oral words. It could be semaphore. And burning a flag is a symbol that expresses an idea – “I hate the government,” “the government is unjust,” whatever.

Conservatives have long opposed falsely claimed “neutral” laws that targeted particular viewpoints. For example, in 2014 in McCullen v. Coakley (2014), the Court considered such a challenge to a Massachusetts law establishing 35-foot buffer zone around abortion clinics barring speech activities. The Court unanimously found that it still violated the Constitution. Notably, Scalia only concurred in the judgment while disagreeing with the reasoning of Chief Justice John Roberts in the majority. Scalia viewed the law as content-based and felt that it should have been struck down under the highest burden of strict scrutiny.

Consider the implications of laws enhancing prosecution and penalties for selective speech. A liberal president could seek enhancements for views deemed hate speech or disinformation. Indeed, that is precisely the rationale used in other countries to selective prosecution of certain speech as “provocative,” “offensive,” or fueling violence.

In R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992), the Court struck down an ordinance that focused on fighting words that angered people based on “race, color, creed, religion or gender” as well as specific Nazi symbols.

The majority opinion written by Scalia (and joined by Chief Justice William Rehnquist, Justice Anthony Kennedy, Justice David Souter and Justice Clarence Thomas) held that “the First Amendment does not permit St. Paul to impose special prohibitions on those speakers who express views on disfavored subjects.”

As I discuss in my book, The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage, this type of prosecution has swept across Europe where free speech is in a free fall. Europeans yielded to the desire to target particular viewpoints and speech, a move that quickly snowballed into massive censureship and criminalization of speech. That included arresting people praying to themselves near abortion clinics and any protests deemed offensive to various groups. Indeed, some of the most anti-free speech figures in the United States such as Hillary Clinton have supported criminalizing flag burning with other limits on speech.

Flag burners can still be prosecuted for burning material on streets or public property. However, those laws must be neutrally written and neutrally applied. Otherwise, President Trump and others can seek a constitutional amendment to create an exception for flag burning under the First Amendment.

This is never an easy fight for free speech defenders. No one relishes being accused of defending flag burners. However, free speech often demands that we fight for the rights of those we despise or views that we deplore. We do not need the First Amendment to protect popular speech.

Of course, the new order is a fight that the President likely believes that he cannot lose. Even if he loses in court, he is seen as fighting a practice that remains uniformly unpopular with American voters. However, we should focus on defending the rights that define us as Americans. Free speech is the very right that distinguishes us from even close allies, the indispensable and quintessential American right. It would be a tragic irony to protect the symbol of our nation by destroying the core rights that the symbol represents.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of the best-selling “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”

This column appeared in Fox.com.

277 thoughts on “Running it up the Flagpole: Why the Trump Order on Flag Burning is Unconstitutional”

  1. I agree it is not Constitutional, but it will shine a bright light on all the Unconstitutional acts democrats have passed that are in the same vein.

  2. Albinophobic banners, Black/Selective Lives Matter (BLM) flags, and PP where hope is aborted, sequestered with a social endangerment finding are next.

  3. Remembering third grade where I and another student had the privilege to raise and lower the flag every school day, and we learned how to fold the flag. We hoisted the flag while the whole school said the Pledge of Allegiance and took in down after school. Pride of the duty was a given just as being a crossing guard was.

    It truly is a shame that my generation (hippie BABY boomers) started the disrespect for the United States of America, or as they tried to sell the anti-movement as ‘The Age of Aquarius’.

    O say can you see, by the dawn’s early light
    What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight
    O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
    And the rockets red glare and bombs bursting in air
    Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there
    O say does that star spangled banner yet wave
    For the land of the free
    And the home of the brave?

    1. GW
      I care, I was a Life Scout, a school patrol and a veterans fatherless son. I was thinking the same things as you, never let her touch the ground, respect, honor, loyalty and duty. Vietnam changed everything, Krushev stated, we will beat you from within. He was serious and they have taken their toll.

      1. GW – don’t sweat the haters. Those who are with you are more than those who are with them (2 Kings 6:16).

  4. Of course Canks Ratpelt wants this fight. And the corrupt SCOTUS will probably side with him on it. I trust that when they do you’ll come back to try and justify it, Turls.

    The first 8 months of this year has not just opened the window to authoritarian dictatorship. It opened, and the window in which to back out has been slammed shut. Once dictators win elections it’s already too late. We’re in for 30-50 years of this unless the blue states begin talking seriously about succesion…

    And Jon, know that every dictatorship just ends up killing those who carried water for them from the center once they solidify power. The trump administration has seized the agencies but hasn’t solidified power yet…the money lives in the blue states.

    1. “Of course Canks Ratpelt wants this fight. And the corrupt SCOTUS will probably side with him on it. I trust that when they do you’ll come back to try and justify it, Turls.

      The first 8 months of this year has not just opened the window to authoritarian dictatorship. It opened, and the window in which to back out has been slammed shut. Once dictators win elections it’s already too late. We’re in for 30-50 years of this unless the blue states begin talking seriously about succesion…

      And Jon, know that every dictatorship just ends up killing those who carried water for them from the center once they solidify power. The trump administration has seized the agencies but hasn’t solidified power yet…the money lives in the blue states.”

      Smells like a lot of butt-hurt there. Trump probably sells a cream for that.

      1. If the money lives in Blue states, why are so many people and businesses fleeing Blue states in droves?

        1. The blue state pays more into the system than the red states is a simplistic statement that, on the whole, is untrue, and only fits for ignorant people such as the Democrats on this blog.

          What is ‘money’? If you count all federal flows, high-income blue metros send more taxes to Washington because that’s where high earners and corporate HQs file. Move the corporation and move huge amounts of tax revenue coming from another state where even the products might be made. But if they’re asking about redistribution, welfare, Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, education, and infrastructure grants, those dollars follow age, poverty, and enrollment formulas everywhere, not on party lines. Defense bases, federal payrolls, and lab contracts are national-security operations, not welfare. SALT rules also push more federal tax onto high-tax states, a political action created in Washington.. A lot of the income taxed in blue HQ states is actually produced in red-state energy, agriculture, and manufacturing. Puerto Rico, a blue-leaning territory, is a large transfer recipient by statute. Bottom line: the slogan ‘blue donors, red takers’ confuses where taxes are recorded with where value is created, and how federal programs are designed.

    2. The first 8 months of this year has not just opened the window to authoritarian dictatorship

      You’re referring to Trump dismantling the fascist censorship-industrial complex of Obama/Biden, overturning the fascist debanking policies of Obama/Biden, tailoring back on smothering governmental regulations, and enhancing religious liberty.

      In other words, in your world freedom and liberty amount to “authoritarian dictatorship.” In other words, you are mentally deranged, just like most of the Trump haters.

      1. the irony of posting about the “fascist censorship-industrial complex” in an article about a head of state attempting to curtail free expression that criticizes the state …

        1. “the irony of posting about the “fascist censorship-industrial complex” in an article about a head of state attempting to curtail free expression that criticizes the state …”

          You know, there was a time when even Democrats were wisely opposed to flag burning as well. But you’re just too stupid to understand.

  5. The detractors will claim this is just another distraction created by the President to keep eyes of *insert favorite talking point here*.
    The reality is, President Trump is fully capable of carrying on simultaneously in multiple directions and is merely wanting an American conversation on the subject of flag burning.

    He knows it’s unconstitutional, but how else to you get the snews media to pay attention?

      1. “He doesn’t read his briefings. This is all Miller and Vogt.”

        This from a person who never questioned the mental acuity of Biden for years.

  6. As the professor alludes to, this is part and parcel of what sets us apart from the failing nations of western Europe. They cave to popular pressures and become tyrannical. We have the Constitution, which is qualitatively better than what they have.

    And ironically that’s what makes flag burning so contradictory. If you were born here, or otherwise reside here legally, you have won the lottery (in fact there’s a literal lottery for people trying to get in). Only 4% of the earth’s population has been so lucky. You should put into perspective any disagreements you have with the current administration.

    It’s also what makes the spoiled, wealthy celebrities who flee America due to hatred of Trump look so silly.

  7. Complicating Donald J. Trump’s plan to send troops to Chicago, on Tuesday thousands of National Guard members called in sick with bone spurs.

    The White House was plunged into chaos after receiving over seven thousand notes from guardsmen’s podiatrists, sources said.

    At the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. vowed that he would get to the bottom of the bone spurs epidemic by enlisting the nation’s finest medical minds, including Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil.

    “A sudden outbreak of this size is very suspicious,” Kennedy told reporters. “The most likely culprits are COVID-19 vaccinations.”

    1. I don’t know why you always post these stupid things. They are not funny at all. Just childish.

        1. “They’re actually hilarious. It’s just magats take themselves too seriously.”

          Yeah, hilarious like Stephen Colbert. Oh wait.

      1. oldman
        “Just childish” you say.
        Well, I’m just trying to post comments that are age appropriate for this worthless forum.

        1. a “worthless forum” that you just can’t stay away from, day after day, even before the noon hour? And then you sign in as anonymous, afraid to reveal any identity. Such a hero you are!

          1. Your observation is correct.
            I keep coming back to this worthless forum every day, because I am a professional troll.
            It is a thankless job, but someone has to do it.
            However, George Soros pays me and the other trolls here a lot of money to do this, so it is worth while to keep up the good work.

            1. If you are paid more than 50 cents, you’re overpaid. You accomplish nopthing here. Are your wife and children proud, or is it daddy’s little secret?

        2. You probably think that’s clever. It’s not. Just like your original comment, it’s childish. Go play in the sandbox.

    2. Again, if you’re going to copy and paste from some lame Democrat web site, you should give us the link so that we can give them some ad revenue. You’re just a thief and a plagiarist. Typical Democrat.

  8. Someone below said Trump is doing this to distract from poll numbers. Question: even apart from the debatable premise (that Trump’s poll numbers are bad), does such an assertion even make logical sense? Poll numbers are a reflection of what people actually think. The assertion seems to be that people will be distracted from what they actually think. To me that seems incoherent.

    1. Trump is doing the same thing all world leaders do. Make headlines about patriotic topics with little substance (in terms of actually changing anything) in order to improve his polling. This is why Argentinian leaders always talk about re-taking the Falkland Islands even though there is no chance they would actually declare war on the UK.

      This isn’t rocket science. It is a distraction.

      1. How is this for a “distraction,”
        NYT warns election map moving away from Dems, with implications for 2032
        “Florida and Texas could gain a total of five congressional seats, while Idaho and Utah are expected to each add a seat”
        “Those increases would come at the expense of major Democratic states like California and New York. Minnesota and Pennsylvania could also each lose a seat.”
        https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/nyt-warns-electoral-college-map-shifting-away-democrats-reducing-chances

        1. not sure the point of your post…

          Are you celebrating the devolution of our democratic institutions?

          Whether gerrymandering for or against your “team,” it is despicable.

          1. The point of my comment is reality.

            Not celebrating anything. The demise of the Democrat party is by their own devices. As I have stated more than a few times here on the good professor’s blog, I do not wish for a single party system. I have repeatedly called for the sane and normal Democrats to give the far-leftists the boot and take back their party. Otherwise, the Democrat party demise is inevitable. What will fill the vacuum? The Democrat Socialists? Not better. A separate moderate and traditional Democrat party? I think many Democrats would welcome that, as would I.
            Who said anything about gerrymandering? Based off the analysis of the NYT, The Hill and Just the News, there is a real population shift from Blue states to Red states. Based off what? According to U-Haul reporting, it is failed Blue states policies that are driving people out of Blue states to Red states. Fact is, Blue states are losing population of middle class to upper class for those very reasons. It is not rocket science. Want to keep people from fleeing your state, dont vote for Democrats and their failed policies.

    2. OldManFromKS,
      They bring up Trump’s supposedly falling poll numbers in a desperate attempt to deflect from the recent NYTs article titled, The Democratic Party Faces a Voter Registration Crisis
      “The party is bleeding support beyond the ballot box, a new analysis shows.”
      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/20/us/politics/democratic-party-voter-registration-crisis.html

      Or this one from The Hill,
      Democrats alarmed over new data showing voters fleeing to GOP
      https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5462604-voter-registration-shift-democrats/

      Our leftist friends try to convince us and themselves that Trump and the Republican party are in trouble when it appears it is the far-left wing Democrat party who is in trouble. As it has also been noted, a lot of rich Democrat donors are mad at donating money to Harris campaign, the DNC spent 1.5B dollars and still lost. Why would they throw more money at bad Democrat policies that do not resonate with moderate Democrats and win elections? Rather, the far-left Democrat party panders to far-leftist policies. Of course rich donors are not going to give any more money till the DNC takes back the party from these woke far-leftists. The woke far-leftists are the ones responsible for all those Democrats leaving the party for the Republican party.
      If this trend continues, the Democrats will lose both in the mid-terms and in 2028. I read one analysis stating it will take years if not a decade for Democrats to recover . . . IF they can get the stupid and crazy out of their party.

  9. Of course, the new order is a fight that the President likely believes that he cannot lose.

    I seriously doubt that. Of course it’s unconstitutional. He knows that and so does everyone advising him. So why the order? It’s actually a brilliant strategic move. He already has the Democrats defending indefensible positions on illegals, crime, deportations, men in women’s sports, and so on. It’s been said that if he was for a cure for cancer, Democrats and the Left would oppose it. The 1st amendment has been under attack for quite some time by those usual suspects. This puts them in the position of arguing against themselves, while at the same time defending a widely unpopular practice.

    1. Mr. Turley must not have read the order. It specifically mentions that it must be consistent with the First amendment. There are other content-neutral laws that can be used to prosecute America-hating idiots.

      1. The professor’s article (above) does acknowledge that, but then explains why he views it as unconstitutional anyway.

        1. If you’d stop hitting yourself on the head with that hammer, you’d probably have fewer headaches

      2. Rabble:
        Funny thing is, you believe anyone on the left will actually read the full order. They’ll se the headlines, and then go sell out their local Walmart of flags and Bics

  10. So what if it’s unconstitutional? DACA was plainly unconstitutional as well, Obama even said so, yet somehow it’s now the law of the land and Trump is not allowed to reverse that unconstitutional act by Obama.

    1. When people talk about the growth of authoritarianism in this country, this is EXACTLY what they mean.

  11. I wonder if the Left on college campuses would consider the burning of a BLM or Pride flag “hate speech” ?

  12. I completely agree that Trump can’t create a penalty for flag-burning that falls within all of the long-established legal precedents, offensive as most of us find that to be.
    But I also think Trump has just found yet another way to troll and/or punk Democrats into, yet again, defending something that most Americans find offensive.
    Now Democrats will be recently publicized for (1) flag-burning, (2) defending illegal alien, gang member, wife-beating human traffickers, (3) men cheating against women in sports, (4) chemical and medical mutilation of minors, with or without their parents’ consent, and (5) justifying the jihadi Hamas atrocities committed on 10/7.
    The RNC won’t have to spend hardly anything on campaign materials in 2026/2028. Just using CNN and MSNBC broadcasts by themselves will disgust even more voters into leaving the Democrat Party, like they are now.
    My favorite part of this Professor Turley column, which clarifies 1A so beautifully:
    “This is never an easy fight for free speech defenders. No one relishes being accused of defending flag burners. However, free speech often demands that we fight for the rights of those we despise or views that we deplore. We do not need the First Amendment to protect popular speech.”

    1. Now you’re going to have to campaign on issues instead of Trump hate. Good thing that Democrats haven’t reflexively taken the losing side of every prominent issue over the last few years, and enjoy a 20% approval rating as a party. I’m sure that you’ll do fine.

  13. If you listened to what they said it was indicative that they would arrest those burning the American flag for incitement. They indicated that they would protect the first amendment. Personally, I think anyone burning our flag as a political statement of hatred should get their ass kicked and be escorted to the border. It never should have been allowed, too many good people have died for it, respect it.

    1. ” Personally, I think anyone burning our flag as a political statement of hatred should get their ass kicked and be escorted to the border.”

      That is about as truly un-American a statement as I have seen anywhere recently. Perhaps is isn’t those whom you have identified who should be given a one-way ticket out of here.

      1. “That is about as truly un-American a statement as I have seen anywhere recently. Perhaps is isn’t those whom you have identified who should be given a one-way ticket out of here.”

        Please be sure to have your unequivocal support of flag burning be a central plank of all future Democrat campaigns. Thank you.

    1. I don’t think it’s Trump trolling the left because even the right has been very vocal about disagreeing with him on this issue.

      Trump is more likely using this as a distraction from declining poll numbers and an economy that is slowing down, and prices getting higher.

      1. “I don’t think it’s Trump trolling the left because even the right has been very vocal about disagreeing with him on this issue.

        Trump is more likely using this as a distraction from declining poll numbers and an economy that is slowing down, and prices getting higher.”

        You already said this earlier and you were rightfully taken to task for your lies. Saying it again doesn’t suddenly make it any more true.

      2. X wrote, “Trump is more likely using this as a distraction from declining poll numbers and an economy that is slowing down, and prices getting higher.”

        Using your own words from earlier, “So prove it. Saying so is not proof according to you.”

        Personally I think what you wrote is nothing but fear mongering propaganda. From my south central Wisconsin perch, I don’t see prices getting higher, I see them getting lower across the board. Sure there are a few isolated products at have gone up a little, but they are few and far between. I think the economy is reasonably stable right now, it’s going to take some time for the tariffs to really do their job to bring manufacturing back to the USA. These tariffs have been needed for a long, long time!

        As for poll numbers; anyone that pays any real attention to political polls is a dang fool, political polls are PURE MANIPULATIVE PROPAGANDA!

        1. “As for poll numbers; anyone that pays any real attention to political polls is a dang fool, political polls are PURE MANIPULATIVE PROPAGANDA!”

          Trump does. He’s very keen on numbers that make him look bad.

    2. Without the Supreme Court reversing previous court decisions on flag burning, this will go nowhere and everyone knows it. As much as I personally dislike burning of the stars and stripes in protest, it’s the law. I believe the law as it stands right now is that you can buy your own flag and burn but you cannot burn someone else’s flag which is arson. My opinion on flag burning is that it’s very intentional incitement and there are far better and if the protest is actually trying to accomplish something other than to just piss off people off there are far better ways to protest. I think flag burning is equivalent to vulgar internet trolling and getting in someone’s face screaming vulgarities; flag burners are trying to incite extreme negative emotional reactions to create situations where they can condemn those they incite.

      Again; personally I think this flag burning Executive Order is President Trump intentionally trolling the political left into extreme negative emotional reactions. There will likely be the usual unhinged Democrat politicians and pundits making the case for impeachment.

    3. So President Trump takes unconstitutional actions to troll Democrats — sad and disappointing political times we live in! —Concerned Citizen

      1. Most of what the federal government does is unconstitutional. On my punch list of unconstitutional actions, this one has a pretty low priority.

      2. Anonymous wrote, “…President Trump takes unconstitutional actions to troll Democrats…”

        “unconstitutional actions”, that’s nonsense, you need a logic and civics correction.

        Although the content of the Executive Order (EO) might in fact be unconstitutional, the action of creating the EO was not an unconstitutional action. Lots of Presidents have created unconstitutional EO’s, including Biden multiple times. Because the President of the United States has the legal authority to create EO’s, the action of creating an EO is not unconstitutional regardless whether the EO contents is unconstitutional or not.

        Lesson complete.

        Anonymous wrote, “…sad and disappointing political times we live in!”

        I’m not a fan of Trump’s loose cannon mouth or his intentional trolling.

        Yes, it’s sad and disappointing.

        1. “Although the content of the Executive Order (EO) might in fact be unconstitutional, the action of creating the EO was not an unconstitutional action.”

          In defense of that poster, Turley himself seemed to make that same fallacious correlation in his column, most likely through haste in writing,

    4. Yes!
      He’s thrown the gauntlet for AOC or Hakeem to rally with a flag burning at the steps of the People’s House.

  14. So we can add the enthusiastic approval of flag burning to the list of Democrat party talking points for the midterm elections. I can only assume that Democrat campaign stops will now feature the handing out and burning of American flags, well, more than they do already.

  15. Trump clearly has significant new medical problems with his chronic venous insufficiency and excessive bruising.

      1. I believe RFK has recommended hydroxychloroquine washed down with raw milk and beef tallow smoothies.

        1. Actually, our best hope is that in the throes of dementia, he takes his hair dryer in the shower with him.

    1. Gigi, why don’t you take a break already. Nobody cares about your stupid self reply rants. It’s beyond childish.

    2. His bruisng of his hands may indicate he’s on blood thinners. A guy his “size” ( fatty ) is not going to be in the best health. He’s more likely to be at a high risk of heart attack or worse.

      1. “His bruisng of his hands may indicate he’s on blood thinners. A guy his “size” ( fatty ) is not going to be in the best health. He’s more likely to be at a high risk of heart attack or worse.”

        Every week or so, when I need a boost, I rewatch that video of Hillary getting thrown like a sack of potatoes into her Scooby van.

        Somehow I bet you attacked anyone who questioned her obviously poor health, however.

      2. Venous insufficiency leads to deep vein thrombosis and embolisms.
        Hopefully he will throw a sizeable saddle embolus.
        That will finish him off in a couple of minutes.

        1. “Venous insufficiency leads to deep vein thrombosis and embolisms.
          Hopefully he will throw a sizeable saddle embolus.
          That will finish him off in a couple of minutes.”

          Wishing for death of a political enemy. Such a wonderful party you’re part of. No wonder you have a 20% approval rating.

      3. The bruising on his hands is from whooping the mess out of the Democrats!
        MAGA! God Bless DJT

      4. The bruising on his hands is clearly from beating the Sh!t out of the Democrat hierarchy for the last few years! Carry on DJT excellent job!

      1. Who in their right mind would take health advice from Carville? He looks like he’s freaking dead already.

        1. Find Gollum’s recent YouTube podcast. The Demwits all have their bullet points on Trump’s health now. Waltz hit him on his swollen ankles and Gollum hit him on his blotchy hands being caused by a venerable disease! They are pathetic.

          1. Such medical geniuses, yet none of them could see the obvious descent into dementia that Biden was going through for his entire failed presidency.

            1. Hear Hear!
              My butt is wiped just seemed a normal thing to them for the President to blurt out!
              It was a sham in its entirety. Obama

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