Within minutes of the shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic Church Mass on Wednesday, politicians and pundits were calling for new gun control measures and blaming conservatives for the deaths of the children. These are the same calls that have emerged after past shootings for everything from a ban on “assault weapons” to a total ban on all guns. What the public is not being told is the limited range of options under existing constitutional precedent.
The inconvenient fact in these interviews was that Minnesota has some of the nation’s strictest gun controls, and these weapons were acquired legally in that state by the shooter. The state has “red flag” laws and other provisions, but this was someone who did not raise “red flags” or other barriers. The state is at or near the maximal level of gun controls permitted under the Constitution. What remains are bans that would trigger greater serious constitutional challenges.
After calling for more limits, Sen. Tina Smith (D., Minn.) admitted to CNN that the guns were legally obtained in her state, but insisted that “there are only so many things that an individual state can do, because guns pour into Minneapolis and Minnesota from all other parts of the country.”
Over at MSNBC, pundits were suggesting that it may be time for an Australian-like ban and seizure of all guns. The Trace reporter Mike Spies told MSNBC’s Katy Tur that “[guns are] too powerful, even handguns too, again, that’s why in Australia … The only thing that really works, if you really wanted to bring down gun violence, was to do what Australia did and to do what many other countries in Europe do.”
The problem, of course, is that this is not Australia, and we have a Second Amendment protection of gun ownership with over 490 million guns in private hands back in 2022. In 2008, the Supreme Court handed down a landmark ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller, recognizing the Second Amendment as encompassing an individual right to bear arms. The Supreme Court further strengthened the right in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen.
Politicians know that, but continue to call for measures that would be presumptively unconstitutional. Any Australian ban would require a constitutional amendment, absent the most extreme interpretation of the Second Amendment to flip its meaning.
As I have previously written, these calls often appear entirely disconnected from the actual crime or the constitutional protections afforded gun owners, including President Biden demanding a ban on assault weapons after a shooting with a handgun. Biden and others often collectively call these guns “assault weapons,” a standard reference to such popular models as the AR-15.
The AR-15 is the most popular gun in America and the number of these guns in private hands is continuing to rise rapidly, with one AR-15 purchased in every five new firearms sales. These AR-15s clearly are not being purchased for armored deer. Many are purchased for personal and home protection; it is also popular for target shooting and hunting. Many gun owners like the AR-15 because it is modular; depending on the model, you can swap out barrels, bolts and high-capacity magazines, or add a variety of accessories. While it does more damage than a typical handgun, it is not the most powerful gun sold in terms of caliber; many guns have equal or greater caliber.
That is why laws to ban or curtail the sale of the AR-15 would likely run into constitutional barriers. Even the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit struck down a California ban on adults under 21 purchasing semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15.
After past tragedies, some of us have cautioned that there is a limited range of options for gun bans, given constitutional protections. There are also practical barriers, with roughly half a billion guns in the United States and an estimated 72 million gun owners; three out of ten Americans say they have guns. Indeed, gun ownership rose during the pandemic. When former Texas congressman and U.S. Senate candidate Beto O’Rourke declared, “Hell yes, we are going to take your AR-15,” he was widely celebrated on the left. However, even seizing that one type of gun would require the confiscation of as many as 15 million weapons.
These calls for greater gun control remain either factually ambiguous or legally dubious. For example, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe declared after an earlier shooting that it is time to “change the context of gun ownership.” It is unclear what “changing the context” means, particularly when the context is first and foremost constitutional.
While a few courts have upheld such bans in places like Illinois, it has yet to face a full review in the Supreme Court. In Barnett v. Raoul, the ruling of U.S. District Judge Stephen P. McGlynn was upheld. Notably, the appellate majority was composed of conservative Judge Frank Easterbrook and liberal Judge Diane P. Wood. Conservative judge Michael P. Brennan dissented.
The majority stressed that in Heller, the Supreme Court held, “[l]ike most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited.” They further noted that the court has previously found that machine guns are not protected under the Second Amendment because they were not “bearable” arms under the Second Amendment.
While gun rights advocates have stressed the similarities with other clearly protected weapons, Easterbrook and Wood stressed the similarities between AR-15s and M16s:
The similarity between the AR-15 and the M16 only increases when we take into account how easy it is to modify the AR-15 by adding a “bump stock” (as the shooter in the 2017 Las Vegas event had done) or auto-sear to it, thereby making it, in essence, a fully automatic weapon. In a decision addressing a ban on bump stocks enacted by the Maryland legislature, another federal court found that bump-stock devices enable “rates of fire between 400 to 800 rounds per minute.”
In an analysis that gun rights advocates challenge, they stressed that the guns use the same ammunition and “deliver the same kinetic energy.” Yet, the kinetic energy used in AR-15s is also analogous to that of clearly protected weapons.
The ruling was challenged but a petition for certiorari in the case was denied on July 2, 2024.
In addition to calls for assault weapons bans, some like Biden and former Vice President Kamala Harris have supported handgun bans. (Harris later seemed to reverse that position in her own presidential run in praising her own ownership of a 9mm handgun). President Biden suggested in the past that he might seek to ban 9mm weapons. In reference to guns that use 9mm ammunition, Biden declared, “there’s simply no rational basis for it in terms of thinking about self-protection.”It is a call that has been echoed in Canada where Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced that his government is introducing legislation to “implement a national freeze on handgun ownership.” He insisted that “there is no reason anyone in Canada should need guns in their everyday lives.”
For gun owners, the political rhetoric shows the slippery slope of gun control in using vague terms to ban large categories of weapons. Many gun owners suspect that these incremental moves are indeed geared to achieve an eventual Australian-type ban and seizure.
Much of this debate has been fueled by the inaction of the Supreme Court in resolving the underlying question of the permissible range of gun control. It is possible that some justices, such as Chief Justice John Roberts, could support an assault weapons ban. However, the question is how it would define the underlying terms and how it would distinguish such ownership from other lawful weapons.
In the meantime, politicians and pundits will continue to call for “major gun reform” without addressing the constitutional limits on such action.
It is never the weapon, it is always the PERSON who commits the violence. If we outlawed guns, then other weapons of creating violence will be found. The Brits outlawed guns so the thugs turned to knives. Shall we outlaw glass bottles, rags and gasoline since they can be used to fire bomb a church and create the violence.
We have seen evidence of such violence as far back as Neanderthal skeletons show arrow tips embedded in ribs. The problem is never the weapon, but the broken mind of the human.
When will the prog/left realize that an unhealthy, nihilistic amoral culture that will produce angry individuals will little to no coping methods to deal with that anger is one of the major reasons for this violence that is daily seen throughout all of the world where a moral core of society has been removed.
I lay a good deal of this current violence at the feet of atheists and progressives with no sense of society other than self-gratification.
You will not stop any of this until a strong moral core is agreed upon by sane members of a society and strong punishment becomes the response for those who would destroy the common good of the community.
Just look at Chicago, a gun free zone with the most murders because they are one of the tips of the progressive nihilistic ideology pushed by the dem/prog/left. You do not find responsible gun owners committing these crimes to any degree, it is almost always some “triggered” lefty whose lost his/her bearings in a sea of amoral, self-possessed, rudderless progressive ideas that are doomed to fail. Just how many of these latest killers were also trans?
*. Tim McVeigh was the big bomber. The train bomb went unrecognized in palestine , Ohio, of course. Worthy of the Confederates wasn’t it.
Could you be a bit more specific in your postings? What has Tim McVeigh have to do with gun control. He is a prime example of mental illness find a method of producing chaos. It is the person, not the weapon that causes lethality.
Whimsy
I don’t think Tim was mentally ill. He was a disillusioned Iraq war veteran that had witnessed the atrocities of war. He also had witnessed the Clinton Administrations AG Janet “Bull Dyke” Reno give the order to murder American men, women and children at a religious Koresh cult compound in Waco Texas. Those people were burned alive and I think Tim was extracting his form of vengeance upon the federal government for the abuses he believed. I think he knew exactly what he was doing and that’s why he was executed so quickly.
Might as well outlaw trucks and vans, too.
“You will not stop any of this until a strong moral core is agreed upon by sane members of a society and *strong punishment* becomes the response for those who would destroy the common good of the community.” (emphasis added)
So for the dissenters, is that “strong punishment” caning, the rack, a dungeon, auto-da-fe, “re-education, merely excommunication from the society?
Your Medieval barbarism is duly noted.
Tipper Gore seemed to think a large part of violence was due to 1st Amendment rights. Although she was well-meaning she tried to censor music, video games, etc.
Violent people that use violence to solve problems is the issue. These same violent people could use automobiles or anything you can purchase at the hardware store.
The weapon of choice is not the biggest problem, it’s no respect or concern for human life. Weakening the 2nd Amendment will quickly weaken the 1st, 4th and 9th Amendments.
Tipper was a man – he, not she.
…”politicians and pundits will continue to call for ‘major gun reform’”
Politicians need to shut their mouths. What we need is “major gum reform.”
It is their own loosey-goosey attempts to win votes and stay in power that put us in this mess.
Someone commented yesterday (Farmer? Lin?) about copycats and role models and attention-grabbers. and escalation.
I remember driver education classes when I was a young macho stud. If the parents took the keys away from me or said that I couldn’t drive until I was 18, I would have snuck out with friends who would let me drive. and that meant SPEED.
Instead, driver’s ed class (back in the late 60s) actually made me sit through films of actual bloody car wrecks, car roofs sheared off, convertibles with bloody deaths (decapitations). I was so sick from that, I actually puked. I turned out to be the best driver around, and my kids are the same today.
So point being, gun laws do little. We need to change the thinking of those who would use them for things not intended.
That starts at puberty. They need to know the reality of consequences as well as have good role models.
You just made a powerful argument for inducting young adults into a safe and sane gun culture, through education and adult supervision at the outset. That could be the “gun law” that finally works to prevent these lone wolf mass murders. It’s not a punitive approach. Rather, young adults are welcomed into safe and responsible gun culture by their elders.
And those who cannot form a trusting relationship with an older mentor? They don’t get weapons until they shape up.
I learned to shoot and handle guns from my grandfather and at church camp. It was safety first and a gun is a tool. No mystique, no glamour. I’ve never shot anyone either, BTW.
Yeah, Jeff, I got my gun training from my Pappy. His instructions were: don’t ever point that at anyone. It can kill people. Do you understand?
It can’t kill people without a person behind the trigger. People like you need to complete Federal form ID 10T before purchasing a firearm.
Doesn’t the NRA have a mascot that does that (or at least used to) and went to schools to educate children about gun safety? I wonder what caused them to stop doing that. Because if it were due to ant-gun groups forcing the NRA to stop doing that with threats of legal action, couldn’t the NRA argue that would be in violation of their First Amendment rights?
Perhaps we need to see the return of gun clubs to schools nation-wide back at middle and high school levels. Growing up, I never had a gun club in any of my middle or high schools as far as I were aware of (was born in ’79).
You just made a powerful argument for inducting young adults into a safe and sane gun culture, through education and adult supervision at the outset.
Sounds like a powerful California argument for inducting young adults into a safe and sane Internet culture, through education and adult supervision at the outset. Those who cannot form a trusting relationship with an older mentor? They don’t get access to the Internet, social media, or texting until they shape up.
Oh wait – THAT’S DIFFERENT! Social Media is First Amendment rights – nothing like that icky Second Amendment and it’s “shall not infringed” that police state fascists and gun control loons pretend doesn’t exist.
We have a safe and sane gun culture here in constitutional Montana and Idaho. Where we can walk down main street like Lara Croft, Tomb Raider, with a belt fed machine gun and a pistol on each hip and not need even a permit. Where families are more likely to own a second AR-15 than to own a second vehicle.
And most importantly, our murder rate is not only far lower than the police state fascist gun grabbing Democrat states like your California, and lower than the national average, BUT LOWER THAN THE CANADIAN PROVINCES WE BORDER. Despite their Trudeau prohibitions on all handguns and most semiautomatic rifles. Prime Minister Blackface Trudeau – the son that Bolshevik Barack never had.
You can’t have “safe and sane gun culture” when Democrats are allowed to control government and through that usurp Second Amendment rights.
Everyone agrees with the Liberals’ goal of reducing gun violence and ending school shootings – everyone.
But one could make a strong argument that gun violence is primarily a 1st Amendment issue more than a 2nd Amendment issue.
More due to violent media and violent images. Too many Americans have no respect or concern for other people. No respect for human life – regardless of the weapon.
Voters who grew up with guns, nearly every citizen a gun owner knows something changed from the 1960’s until today. Everybody had guns with nearly zero murders or gun violence.
Agree with the goal, but it’s not just the weapon.
What? Your history of “nearly zero murders and gun violence” in the 1960s is just ignorant. And the patterns are very close to the same as then — people involved in crime & shady dealings get murdered — and angry, jealous husbands who can’t control their wives “snap”.
You don’t think there were high-visibility murderers: Charles Whitman, Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, MLK’s assassin, Son of Sam? The 3 civil rights workers in MS? Medgar Evers?
Maybe you weren’t alive then to experience it.
The problem we haven’t solved with gun violence has a very long history. It doesn’t paint Americans as being good at complex social problem-solving.
Name one society that has ever been good at preventing any violence? That goes against human nature which equates to the necessity of good men armed with guns(weapons) standing guard against the truly evil and mentally ill. There is no magic cure through any legislation since laws do not control adherent behavior; all we can do is guard against its ever presence in our midst. There is no utopia at the end of prog legislation. And that tunnel vision is why progs always fail at what they do.
“Everyone agrees with the Liberals’ goal of reducing gun violence and ending school shootings – everyone.”
But that isn’t the goal of liberals. Their goal is for the confiscation of all firearms. Why else would they be in support of a gun registration? It’s because then it would be easier for the liberals to confiscate all firearms from the hands of American citizens using the list. In fact, I think Colion Noir have a video on his YouTube channel where a democratic (state) politician said the “quiet part” out loud.
This column reinforces a large number of popular misconceptions about what an “AR-15” rifle is, and is not. Whether that is out of genuine ignorance by Turley, or a desire for brevity, I do not know, but when the subject is as rife with misinformation (and malinformation) as this one, that is highly unfortunate, and contributes nothing at all toward a Constitutionally correct resolution of the issues involved; in fact, it tends to distance us even further from such a solution.
This all started before 1776 when King George lll acted to “do something” because we colonists were a crisis. He did, and then we did. One of our somethings brought the Bill of Rights. The liberties that belong to us beyond the reach of government. Ten commandments that say Thou Shalt Not. For example the First Amendment freedom of expression reaches all the way from Woonsocket, Rhode Island to Oxnard, California. The whole USA. No 50 different laboratories of political social experimentation. After Heller and Bruen, so does the Second Amendment. “Do something” is politics struggling inside the straightjacket of Liberty, as a lazy substitute for constitutional amendment. It’s a republic. If we can keep it. By not being lazy ourselves.
Well reasoned.
“The inconvenient fact in these interviews was that Minnesota has some of the nation’s strictest gun controls, and these weapons were acquired legally in that state by the shooter. The state has “red flag” laws and other provisions, but this was someone who did not raise “red flags” or other barriers. The state is at or near the maximal level of gun controls permitted under the Constitution. What remains are bans that would trigger greater serious constitutional challenges.”
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Transgenderism is a red flag.
We have seen a common thread with the latest mass shootings. Between the TG brainwashing and introduction of puberty blockers and hormone replacement treatments, a subset of violent individuals are lashing out at people and places once connected to their previous lives. Whether it’s a catholic school in Minneapolis or a school in Colorado, the real threat is the mental disorder known as TG. Why else would Robert’s mom secure a criminal defense lawyer and refuse to cooperate?
Police and criminals think twice about barging into a private residence. And that is the way the Founding Fathers wanted it and that is the way it shall remain until the last testical gone.
As I have always said, you can have as many laws on the books as you want, but that WON’T change the fact the criminals will still find a way to get them. They are criminals after all, breaking the laws is what they do. They are NOT going to all of a sudden start following this particular law, when they already don’t follow laws. Murder is already a felony crime, yet murders happen all the time. All these proposed laws are going to do are to take away the rights of legal gun owners to protect themselves. The criminals will still have guns and will still commit crimes. How about we actually start prosecuting these criminals and holding them accountable for their crimes and for their actions rather than imposing more useless laws. This latest shooter, as with most of them, was in a “gun-free zone”, on purpose. He (they) knew no one would be stopping them or shooting them. Australia and Canada both are a big, giant mess, and have completely been taken over, in large part because they have given up their guns. I DON’T want to be either Australia or Canada, and I am 1/2 Australian.
Jeanne, England has problems, too. The government is becoming tyrannical, absurd, and arbitrary, and patriots have no recourse.
England has always had low levels of gun violence, but home invasion and burglary rates are now worse than America’s. That happens when criminals know homeowners are defenseless and the ruling class imports a criminal class to be their rent-a-mob.
And trust me on this, Jeanne, England will have a gun-violence problem someday. Scandanavia already has a major problem with bombings by immigrant criminals.
I know. It’s everywhere unfortunately. 🙁
The change between “then”, when rifles could be bought in hardware stores as my parents did for me, and “now”, is in the people. Guns haven’t changed; they’re still operated the same way. Put a shell in the chamber. Close it. Pull the trigger. Actually, the more guns are limited, the more attractive they become to the most questionable people. Unfortunately, U.S. society has elevated a curious population, the transgendered. to a mythic, protected status although people come in only two genders, male & female. When we get over this foolishness to understand what a mistake we’ve made, we’ll regret it but be unable to repair the damage. By the way, under what name, Robert or Robin, did this kid buy his guns? Will the seller be penalized for the kid’s lies,?
Male and female describes one’s sex, not gender. Gender is masculine and feminine, as I learned in middle school French class. One can affect one’s gender by changing one’s appearance or behavior, but one’s sex is immutable. To think that changing one’s appearance or behavior changes one’s sex is delusional. Therein lies the mental illness associated with transgenderism.
The change between “then”, when rifles could be bought in hardware stores as my parents did for me, and “now”, is in the people. Guns haven’t changed; they’re still operated the same way. Put a shell in the chamber. Close it. Pull the trigger. Actually, the more guns are limited, the more attractive they become to the most questionable people. Unfortunately, U.S. society has elevated a curious population, the transgendered. to a mythic, protected status although people come in only two genders, male & female. When we get over this foolishness to understand what a mistake we’ve made, we’ll regret it but be unable to repair the damage. By the way, under what name, Robert or Robin, did this kid buy his guns? Will the seller be penalized for the kid’s lies,?
excellent question, just who sold him the guns? I will say that if he had legally changed his name with the aid of his delusional mother, then the purchases would be legal at this point. What we should be looking at is his mother and how did she enable his mental illness rather than seeking help for his mental illness.
700 million guns in circulation according to the ATF. 120 million gun owners. The 2nm Amendment is a RIGHT. The purpose is to guard against Government Tyranny. NO ONE is taking our guns. Molon labe. Say When.
Folks, here’s America’s next school shooter.
If that is what you got out of his comment about the 2ndA being a right and to guard against government tyranny and linked that to school shootings then you just confirmed you are an idiot
They found mom, but….
Federal agents were seen descending on a Florida apartment in the hunt for Minnesota mass shooter Robin Westman’s mom, who has retained a powerful attorney while refusing to talk to cops.
Makes you wonder
She lost a son and the catholics are gunna pay.
She lost her son when she bought into this fake Trans non-sense
The only way I could see private gun ownership outlawed in the United States is if this is done in conjunction with another law that requires the police and sheriff departments of the nation to have an absolute duty to protect the citizens. Already, this has been ruled impractical by the Supreme Court, stating that law enforcement entities only have a general duty to protect from specific and visible threats to others.
Sounds nice, but cops still are controlled by politicians. Look at Baltimore, NYC, Chicago etc… And the FBI, look what they did over the past 8 years. I don’t haver an answer to the situation in the USA.
*. Sometimes what’s needed is a good war. It’s like a fire to burn out all the undergrowth.
You moron, there is no such thing as a good war. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I think it would be better to term it a righteous assault on the criminally insane – sort of what we did during WWII.
“this has been ruled impractical by the Supreme Court, stating that law enforcement entities only have a general duty to protect from specific and visible threats to others.”
Do you have a cite to the SCOTUS decision you reference here? My best information is that LE personnel have no actionable or enforceable duty to protect anyone from anyone or anything unless that protection is coincidental to enforcing a law that has been, or is being, broken. Their only duty is to arrest those who appear to have violated a law. How would a duty such as you mention be articulated and measured? How could an LEO be granted the authority for preemptive protection without also granting carte blanche to anticipate all actions and act accordingly?
The chances of an amendment to the Constitution that would modify the Second Amendment are pretty much zero. But as soon as we have a few more Ketanjis on The Court, it will be as if the Second Amendment didn’t even exist. The rule of law is on it’s death bed, to be replaced by rule of emotions and feelings.
Answer: get rid of Ketanji. Pretty sure she’s got a mortgage fraud in her background.
It really is quite simple to understand this. These poor misguided cretins hate themselves and God. They hate what they are and hate God even more for trapping them in the body and sex they feel is wrong. With the politicization of their mental illness and the thoughts that a pill and a surgery can “fix” them they become more dangerous and agitated as reality becomes reality.
Get the mental health help they need and stop this gender dysphoria epidemic.
“These poor misguided cretins hate themselves and God. ” That’s a mouthful. Prove it please. Thank you. Tom Moore
Res Ispa Loquitor
Cretins are those of low intellectual functioning. This is not a part of the transgender individual. Transgenderism was a mental disorder before age 19. The inability to create a stable identity is a problem when one’s goal as an Adolescent is to form a cogent and functional identity. Treating a child (currently legally less than age 18) as an adult in making decisions they are incapable of making whilst in the midst of adolescent turmoil is unconscionable. Add the deleterious effects of hormone therapy and you end up with irrational behavior. Sometimes schizophrenia appears between 16 and 20 in males. It’s sick to give anyone with sketchy personality development as indicated by inconstant gender identity hormones and expect them to behave rationally. Adults can make their own decisions, but mental health providers need to re evaluate their own belief systems which are increasingly light on research and heavy in indoctrination.
Good post Carole
Guns don’t kill, people kill. If one starts confiscating all weapons that kill, one soon bumps into knives and cars. Where will it end? and still the underlying problems remain.
Too many schools and parents teach hatred and victimhood, instead of respect for other people and the importance of treating others as they want to be treated themselves.
Too many schools are willing to pass students who don’t come close to meeting grade-level expectations. A high school graduate who is functionally illiterate and has no marketable skills is more likely to seek illegal means of getting money, sometimes at the point of a gun.
Too many underaged children have access to guns, hence shootings by 12-14 year-old kids. Where are their parents? What are they teaching their kids? And what are they leaving accessible by their kids at home?
And too many folks with serious mental illness are untreated or under-treated. Yes, this costs money, but failure to address this issue costs both lives and money and leaves behind too many bereaved families.
*. When all morals crumble murder is the landscape. Have you seen what they do? Someone falls out in the street and the person is a speed bump. Someone drowning in a pond is humor, no help offered. Someone being beaten no one calls 911 , videos. Sinsinatti , Holly the victim called herself.
*. Correction Holly did not call herself. She called 911. 😂
The Dems held their summer meeting recently. Many of the statements coming from that meeting were publicized and frankly quite chilling coming from the leadership of a major political party. Despite their mantra that they are fighting to save democracy, they continue their march towards an authoritarian future for this country. I have little doubt that if they should once again gain control of government they will cement their position in place. I believe what they say to each other and for that reason will keep my guns in my possession and oppose any effort to further gun control.
Gun violence is nine-tenths cultural. Australia never had high levels of gun violence even before they passed strict gun control. Mexico has always had high levels of gun violence even after they passed draconian gun control–the same can be said for many Latin-American countries all the way down to South America.
America has a few subcultures with massive cultural problems with violence, not just gun violence. Punishing law-abiding Republicans for what lawless Democrats do is neither just nor a solution. One of the major reasons violence is isolated to certain communities is because criminals know what’s waiting for them if they take violence outside of their own communities.
Finally, over the last several years, Leftists in every Western country have proven they can be as tyrannical as any communist–perhaps because they are communists. They are the worst people in the world for representing gun control. Barack Obama sold more guns than Smith & Wesson.
Stripping out gun rights and replacing them with Democrat prosecutors is a sure-fire way to prove me right on every point. Just look at our inner cities today.
Case closed.
OK, but are Republicans going to step up and find an effective way to give back a sense of public safety to our school kids? My sense is they are conflicted, and at least some would prefer these horrible death scenes to continue rather than holding themselves responsible for fixing the problem.
What do you propose for de-weaponizing the inner-city subcultures you raised?
It’s not enough to accuse Democrats of not having the answers. Repubs have to do better than “we’ll just have to live with it”. The majority abhors a “do nothing” policy when it comes to protecting our children.
pbinca, all forms of violence were declining for decades before Soros prosecutors took over our cites. That was true in every Western country even before the passage of Australia’s gun laws. The solution–the only solution–is to change the culture of violence, and that takes decades but doesn’t require banning firearms.
I do have a recommendation: stop electing Democrats and get back to enforcing the law. Get back to condemning all violence and not making excuses for certain categories of violence. It’s not an instant solution, but it will put us back on a happier trendline. There is no instant solution, IMHO, and anyone who claims otherwise is probably part of the problem.
I should add that mass-shooting fatalities are actually a very small percentage of gun homicides. The MSM focuses on mass shootings to create the impression that the problem is primarily white gun owners. Most Americans already know that that impression is false. Most Americans know that Soros prosecutors have been shockingly lax in prosecuting gun violations in certain communities.
1st, parents need to start being parent again; 2nd, people need to be held accountable for their actions again. There needs to be consequences for people’s actions and crimes.; 3rd, we need cops in schools again.; 4th start allowing teachers and staff to carry and let it be known that the staff is armed.; 5th start teaching about guns and gun safety again. These are just for starters.
Agreed. It starts with parents and schools. That’s how you change the culture. Hold parents and schools accountable.
Absolutely! 100%
This crazy SOB had a mother who enabled his destruction. It has to be a set of parents who have a sound moral core or it won’t happen. And how do you stop morally corrupt people from having children – just look at the epidemic of fatherless kids produced through our welfare system.
If I were king, one would have to get a license to be a parent. No more Octo-moms.
Stop and frisk.
Yep, bring it back.
Seems Republicans are doing something, a lot more than just “we’ll just have to live with it” by allowing teachers to get trained and carry in their schools to protect children against a shooter. Sounds a lot more like they are doing something constructive than Democrats.
pbinca tried passing off the responsibility of the inner city murder problem her Democrat party created:
What do you propose for de-weaponizing the inner-city subcultures you raised?
Do you think people here are dumb enough to believe your claim that Republicans are the ones who raised your ghetto, inner city gangsta murderous population?
Do you think people here are dumb enough to believe that it is Republicans, not your Democrats, that have been running these murderous hellholes like Washington DC, Chicago, Baltimore, etc for GENERATIONS?
Your party of degenerates created these murder hellholes for black Americans – but you want us to accept your claim that this was created by REPUBLICANS? WTF?
You are disgusting.
Gavin Newsom: “These children were literally praying as they got shot at. x.com/atrupar/status…”. Stupid or evil?
Both