When Words No Longer Matter: Nancy Pelosi and Politics of Violence

It appears that words no longer matter to Nancy Pelosi. For years, Pelosi and other Democrats have blamed President Donald Trump and Republicans for their “inciteful rhetoric.” In seeking Trump’s impeachment, Pelosi bellowed that the use of “words such as a cry ‘to fight like hell'” produces violence and added, “words matter. Truth matters. Accountability matters.” No longer. After all, she explained, “we can’t take responsibility for the minds that are out there and how they hear it.”

Democrats and the media have long applied a double standard to political violence. CNN made “fiery but mostly peaceful” protests a national joke in describing riots that caused massive property damage and deaths. CNN’s Chris Cillizza even denounced Trump for using the word “riots” to describe the violent protests in Kenosha in 2020. Violence on the left cannot be riotous; it is righteous.

Pelosi has shown the same relativity. When a mob destroyed statues, Pelosi brushed aside the criminal conduct and said, “People will do what they do.” 

Pelosi’s latest pivot comes as Democratic leaders whip supporters into a frenzy over the impending death of democracy and the need to “fight back.”

Despite objections from many of us that the rhetoric was pushing supporters to violence, Democrats have continued to call for resistance to tyranny or oligarchy.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D, Mass.) declared, “Elon Musk is seizing the power that belongs to the American people.” Rep. Jamie Raskin (D, Md.) claimed on MSNBC’s “The ReidOut” that Musk and Trump were conducting a “rapidly expanding and accelerating coup.”

Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) appeared to be working off the same talking point and declared that a “coup” was being carried out. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) warned that Musk was “taking away everything we have.”

Many are using the very words that Pelosi previously said were not just impeachable but criminal incitement. Democrats ratcheted up claims of a “coup” and called for Democrats to “fight in the streets.”

House Minority Leader Hakeem  Jeffries (D., N.Y.) has called for people to take to the streets to save democracy and posted a picture brandishing a baseball bat.

Jeffries has also called for Democrats to fight  “in the streets.”

Former Democratic National Committee deputy chair Keith Ellison, now the Minnesota attorney general, once said Antifa would “strike fear in the heart” of Trump. Liberal sites sell Antifa items to celebrate the violent group.

California Governor Gavin Newsom declared, “I’m going to punch these sons of bitches in the mouth.” It follows other violent rhetoric from Democratic leaders.

Rep. Maxine Waters (D., Cal.) said, “We are here to fight back.” Sen. Cory Booker (D., NJ) called on citizens to “fight” and declared, “We will rise up.”

Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D., TX) yelled, “We are gonna be in your face, we are gonna be on your a–es, and we are going to make sure you understand what democracy looks like, and this ain’t it.”

Rep. LaMonica McIver (D., N.J.) added: “God d—it shut down the Senate!…WE ARE AT WAR!”

Such rhetoric can inspire unhinged citizens who actually believe that this is a war against a coup. It is the type of rhetoric that can prompt anti-Republican Nicholas John Roske to try to assassinate Justice Brett Kavanaugh or Sanders supporter James T. Hodgkinson to try to massacre Republican members playing softball.

Democrats have admitted that the rhetoric is causing many to consider violence. One House Democrat told Axios, “Some of them have suggested … what we really need to do is be willing to get shot.”

Yet another admitted that constituents have told them to prepare for “violence … to fight to protect our democracy.” Others reported that liberals are talking about the need “to storm the White House and stuff like that.”

One explained that “They’re angry beyond things.” Another said, “It’s like … the Roman coliseum. People just want more and more of this spectacle.”

Some are discussing triggering or staging violence. One member said, “What I have seen is a demand that we get ourselves arrested intentionally or allow ourselves to be victims of violence, and … a lot of times that’s coming from economically very secure white people.”

In one encounter, a lawmaker told Axios: “I actually said in a meeting, ‘When they light a fire, my thought is to grab an extinguisher’. And someone at the table said, ‘Have you tried gasoline?’”

However, when such arson and other violence occur, Democrats are mystified that anyone would point to their own rhetoric and responsibility. When the alleged shooter of Charlie Kirk was found to have scrawled antifa messages on his bullets, the response was again denial and deflection.

At CNN, the network repeated its “fiery but mostly peaceful”  approach to reporting. It told CNN viewers that there were “phrases related to cultural issues.” The wording was so painfully awkward and overly evasive that it only caused greater attention from viewers. CNN later admitted that the writing involved antifa references.

Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI) was even angry with those acknowledging that the shooter was motivated by leftwing causes. He posted on X: “What f**king difference does it make if this murderer was left or right. Pull yourself together, read a book, get some exercise, have a whiskey or walk the dog or make some pasta or go fishing or just do anything other than let this algo pickle your brain and ruin your soul.”

Imagine if a MAGA supporter shot a Democrat. Would Schatz be calling for library and yoga visits?

However, Pelosi insists that words no longer matter. She may be speaking the truth when it comes to the left and the media. They do not matter if they convey righteously violent messages. It then becomes little more than “phrases related to cultural issues.”

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of the best-selling “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”

479 thoughts on “When Words No Longer Matter: Nancy Pelosi and Politics of Violence”

  1. As much as I admired Charlie Kirk, his noble idea of debate with the other side was, at this point in our nation’s development, much akin to Neville Chamberlain appeal to Hitler. I do believe Chamberlain was sincere in his motive but he had no grasp of the evil to which he was attempting to speak. I don’t know if Kirk was aware of the magnitude of the evil (I think he truly was) but the majority of his followers/admirers, up until his assassination, were not truly aware enough of the vast pit of hate that has been created in the minds of almost half of this nation.

    I do hope, as his wife and many others have said, that this heinous act has unleashed a whirlwind that will end the ideology of progressivism in this nation as those very progressives are exposing, daily, through their posts and rants. We are seeing the real underbelly of the left and the hate is astounding to witness.

    The progs and their propagandist news media can spew their words forever, but the image of Kirk losing his life for free speech and debate will overshadow all the noise that the left machines can make and show them to be nothing but the echoes of the hate within the left’s ideology and methodology.

    1. Whim
      I don’t know if Kirk was aware of the magnitude of the evil.

      Not long ago Mr Kirk did speak of this evil. I’m only guessing, but he knew his day would come. But his strong belief in God kept him going.
      Even when he was surrounded by evil.
      He will be missed.

    2. Well said Whimsicalmama. Well said. Had Charlie Kirk lived in the 60’s or 70’s, he wouldn’t have been particularly unusual debating people with whom he disagreed. Fast forward today however with college student’s seething hatred toward the United States, American history, and (god forbid) family values, and Charlie Kirk becomes an lightning rod for the Left. Thank you, Greg

      1. Maybe Tyler hated Kirk’s brand of Christianity. I hear Max Watters screaming God’s on our side.

        You are your own hell. Leave God out of it. He’s innocent.

    3. I think that Kirk did know full well the evil that he was battling, and it wasn’t the leftists he was debating which he felt were evil. Kirk was a Christian; a true believer in Jesus Christ. The evil he was battling was Satan, the Great Liar, the roaming lion seeking to devour souls and sowing evil and hatred everywhere. To Kirk, that was the true enemy, not the people who have been led astray by the evil. And as a Christian he was acting in accordance with Biblical scripture in attempting to spread the word of God. Those who do not understand the basis for that, have difficulty fully understanding his motivations.

      I think that has to be assessed for what it is. He was engaged in a spiritual war, not an ideological war. Someone else in here has recently put forth a couple times that the global hatred, chaos, world turned upside down contractions we are witnessing take place are only the symptoms of that spiritual war. There’s truth to that. Whether one is believer in God or not, it’s difficult not to conclude that far greater agenda’s are at play before our eyes, and that a far greater battle is taking place than can just be excused by ideological differences or even perceived by the masses being played like chess pieces on a board. Philosophy and Spirituality are not all that far apart.

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      –Oddball
      “Take it easy Big Joe, some of these people got sensitive feelings.”

    4. It’s accurate to notice that Christian nationalism and multicultural democracy ‘getting along’ with each other is an unsustainable relationship. The sooner the nation realizes this the better.

  2. Justice Amy Coney Barrett gives us the answer. Some readers on here (e.g. Margot Ballhere) believe Jonathan Turley provides no answers. Analysis, critiques, rage, yes. Solutions, no. That is because
    Turley has no religion. Justice Amy however does. The SCOTUS Majority are all deeply religious (and trained as Catholic thinkers).

    1. “Turley provide no answers.” Answers? That’s a strange statement. Turely is not a God, as some of you think,
      he’s just an attention seeking pundit cashing in on his internet notoriety.
      If as many of you believe he is some sort of savior, you are deluded. You are misguided and lost.
      Turley does not give answers, he opines on current events. Nothing more.
      If you can’t think for yourself, then so be it.
      Coming here to get “answers” is a delusion.

      1. Isn’t that much like what Kirk was assassinated for doing? Trying engender debate on issues. And while the majority here do offer many ideas and the discussions are, for the most part, civilized and erudite, there is also that ever-present cadre of hate-filled progressives coming to disrupt any sort of rational debate by spewing the regulation progressive hate all over the place.

      2. Why would Prof. Turley have to provide answers? He teaches you to think and evaluate the issues that are the present topic. I for one greatly appreciate his writings. Perhaps as Mary wrote “you are a mean spirited troll”, and thinking for you is what other people tell you to do or write on blogs like this.
        p.s. I do not expect you to learn or even read this.

  3. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it, again: Democrat leaders don’t hate Trump because of his tactics. They hate Trump because he beats the living hell out of them, using their own tactics against them. That’s why they hate him. He embarrasses their narcissism.

      1. Over the top rhetoric.

        Executive orders. Even some that are blatantly unconstitutional.

        Appealing to emotion rather than reason.

        Do you meed more, or is that enough to shut you up?

      2. Over the top rhetoric

        Ruling by executive fiat, some even blatantly unconstitutional

        Stacking the judicial branch with partisan actors,

        Using the judicial to get what they want but can’t get by legislative means

        Exaggerating and propagandizing

        Do you need more?

    1. And his tactics force them, unwittingly, to expose their putrid underbelly for all to see. These postings of hate towards an assassinated man are doing far more harm to their hunt for that elusive middle that they need and, consequentially, they are invigorating the right to oppose the vile nature of what the left is showing us with their horrible reactions to this tragedy.

  4. The Congressmen were playing baseball, not softball, when they were shot.

    Softball is what the Republicans play at the Capitol.

  5. Je Suis Charlie
    “There are many guilty parties in the rise of political violence. But to our minds, among the biggest culprits are the universities. In the same way that madrassas radicalize jihadis, America’s campuses are among the places in the U.S. most hostile to disagreement and debate. Where they preach “inclusion,” they actually practice exclusion—shouting down speakers they disagree with, for instance. Where they promote “diversity,” they actually enforce a uniformity of thought, denying tenure to dissenters.”
    https://www.thefp.com/p/je-suis-charlie-kirk

    A very good read from The Free Press.

    1. Whoa. Upstate, thanks for posting. The comparison to how young Palestinian Arabs and other Muslims are being indoctrinated against Jews, Israel, and the West is exactly the method our universities are using. No wonder the Dems want to forgive student loans. They want to reward the universities and the only way to do it other than direct donations, tax breaks, and grants is to allow a system responsible for out of control tuition prices to continue. My God, but we are so screw’d.

    2. Madrassas are the perfect analogy for the progressive infested media/education industries run by the progressive cadre. When you need to threaten those who are your followers with shunning and reprisals for not adhering to your fanaticism, you are no longer a center of erudition, but a mill for grinding out jihadis. And by jihadis I am inferring the creation of a gang who will commit any crime without reservation for their own lives in order to further the cause.

  6. Yesterday I listened to Bari Weiss on her Honestly podcast mourn the assassination of Charlie Kirk. A few days earlier I listened twice to Bari (a liberal married lesbian Jew with 2 children via IVF) interview devout Catholic married heterosexual Justice Amy Coney Barrett. Justice Barrett gushed about Bari’s journalism and “The Free Press” start up

    The Left killed Charlie Kirk because they hate. It appears Kirk embraced gay married couples like Dave Rubin and Bari Weiss. Kirk adored his wife and today she has nothing but loving words for her deceased husband. So much for Kirk being a misogynist and gay hater

    The Left wanted him dead because they hate others who are different from them, which justifies in their demented minds, violence. Period. End of story. Cults by no other name.

    Dave Rubin
    @RubinReport
    Hey @StephenKing, you are more monstrous than any of the characters you ever came up with.

    Charlie was never anything but kind to me and my husband.

    We broke bread many times, and he never treated us with anything other than respect.

    He even came to our house not too long ago and plot twist, didn’t throw rocks at us.

    Write about that sometime, you hack.

    https://x.com/RubinReport/status/1966299918202540515

  7. My wife you asked “has any prominent democrat come out and condemned Charlie’s murder?” Not gun violence. Not political violence. But directly his assasination.

  8. Great column professor. Good on you for pointing out the rage rhetoric Democrats have been spewing.
    In the news I am reading about how a number of people are on paid leave, or fired for celebrating Kirk’s murder. Some are claiming it was done from pressure from the “right wing mob!” No. It was people with a sense of morality, decency who said, “I do not want someone like that working for me!” I do support their 1stA rights to say vile things, by all means, please do! Let us all know the kind of person you really are! Just dont be surprised when normal, moral people do not want to be associated with you in any form.
    Going forward, we need to continue Charlie Kirk’s work. What we must not do is lower ourselves to the far leftists level.

      1. Dustoff 10:36 AM- You have to remember we have had democrats in power for 12 of the last 16 years. They have taken the Garden of Eden and filled it with snakes. It’s going to take time to clean them out.
        A tale from the south. Many farmers seeking to clear fields of snakes would put hogs in the field and hogs would clear the field and eat the snakes. Don’t know if the hogs had many casualties but I don’t think so. Old hogs had thick hides.
        Trying to think of a comparable operation for the human condition.

  9. I live in a red and blue state. My family are red and blue. Any chance for persuasive arguments? Or education? Or simply listening? Even Carole King and Paul McCartney, as great as they both are, collaborated. Each needed great lyricists and people like George Martin.

    1. Talk little, listen and learn, use humor and walk outside for a coke or a beer if things get too warm. Usually worked.

  10. Professor, you are basically a JFK Democrat. With no change in POV, you are now a Right Wing Nutjob/MAGATARD. Welcome!

  11. The baseball bat that Jeffries was carrying reminds me of the late 60s, early 70s when I first started voting in Chicago. You were met by several “men” with baseball bats “recommending” you vote Democratic. The Democrats haven’t changed in all these decades.
    BTW, our 23rd Ward always voted against Daley.

    1. Anonymous 9:18AM- Reminded me of Lester Maddox, 1 term governor of Georgia 1967-1971 a definite racist and segregationist who sold ax handles at his PickRick restaurant in Atlanta. Succeeded by Jimmie Carter in 1971

  12. The free speech advocates are bipolar.
    Is it “sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never harm me”, or isn’t it?
    Why don’t they make up their minds?

    1. I do not see any free speech advocates clamboring for laws restricting speech.

      Free speech does not mean no consequences for your speech.
      you can be refuted,
      you can be criticized,
      you can be fired,
      you can have your customers go away.

      All that is still free speech.

      Turley speaks out against Rage Rhetoric – but I have never seen him suggest that anything beyond
      “taking a chill pill” should be done about it.

      Those of you on the left are actual racists, and fascists and authoritarian your speech – but most important your conduct prove that.
      Kirk’s assassination was vile – I do not agree with Turley that YOUR rage rhetoric is to blame.

      However your RESPONSE tells everyone who YOU – not Tyler Robinson is.

      We heard you and you are accountable for your words – just not to government.

      I constantly write of credit, reputation, respect.
      These are NOT rights.
      They are things you must earn and that you can easily lose.

      Jobs are not rights either.
      You have repeatedly sought to deny others jobs based on their politics
      People are now firing you for youir words regarding Kirk – GOOD!

      You are further damaging your reputation and destroying what little respect anyone has of you.

      You have done this to yourselves.

      1. I would like to see a blog discussion and debate between John Say and Professor Turley on rage rhetoric — Perhaps Darren or Kristen can arrange it.

    2. The premise is wrong. Words that incite violence can indeed harm and as a consequence they are excluded from 1st Amendment protection…all consistent with free speech principles.

    3. “Words ARE Violence!” i was told at a “No Kings!” rally. At least at that one hour in June the Leftist-Progressive-Dems words were consistent with their actions and desires.

  13. I believe there is an internal effort by the radical left to turn the US into a Marxist county. I believe that it is being led by Obama and his allies. I also believe this is a plan hatched by Bill Ayers and that he probably recruited Obama into the CIA’s SAC/PAG (Political Action Group) for covert political action. I believe these 70’s era radicals never stopped this insurgency effort and that this just an extensive of what they have always been. Obama used his power to place people in key areas of the government in order to further this plan. He had an ally at the FBI, and saw the benefit of placing a key figure at USAID. Susan Power was previously the UN ambassador, and for some inexplicable reason, also involved with the NSA unmasking of Trump during the election. Obama then infiltrated the highest levels of the military, the CIA, the media, and corporate America.

  14. When you believe your opponent is a “fascist and a Nazi”, then you really have few options because there is really no point in having a dialog. The only thing left to do is either jail you or kill you. When they tried to jail us by elevating misdemeanors into low level felonies, denying bail, suppressing evidence, or withholding counsel, they’re resorting to violence.

    What do democrats stand for? They seem to have lionized illegal immigrants, even those who have committed violent crimes. They’re in favor of cashless bail, even for violent offenders, they support soft on crime DA’s (even to the point where leftist cities like LA and SF can’t tolerate it), they support defunding the police, they preside over cities that look like war zones, that have massive levels of crime, drugs, unemployment, and homelessness. Their schools are ineffective in providing basic education, even with some of the highest levels of funding per-student in the country. They embrace radial socialism/Marxism, support for terrorist groups like Hamas. They support radical abortion rights, even up to full term. They support mental illness like transgenderism, even trans-ing children, and promoting it in schools. They have no problem with enriching themselves through their elected offices, or corrupting the legal system to further they political agendas. Even while they are committing the same crimes they’re accusing their opponents of.

    1. Your post masterfully exposes the Democratic Party’s blatant promotion of violence. But it omits a damning truth: Republican leaders stood idle, refusing to censure the perpetrators or mount any defense. For four years under Trump, they cowered in silence—complicit enablers who greenlit the January 6 persecution and let democracy bleed. I indict both parties as co-conspirators in America’s betrayal. Come the end of Trump’s term, I’ll cast my last vote for this rotten duopoly. No more Democrats. No more Republicans. I’ll wage war for a new party that actually serves the people—because right now, from Congress to city halls, We the People have zero voice, zero power, and zero hope. Wake up, America: This isn’t governance; it’s a coup by elites. Demand better—or lose everything.

      1. Prior to Trump, the republican party was lost in the forest. They stood for nothing and fell for everything. They were the party of compromise, go along to get along. The Bush’s were masters at using government to enrich themselves through wars, oil and defense spending. I always found it odd that the Liz Cheney’s out there could so easily move from one side of the aisle to the other, as if it was because Trump’s rhetoric was so offensive that it left them with no other choice.

        Trump was the first republican to come along that tried to put a stop to that. In his first term, he massively underestimated how powerful these people were and to what extent they would go to stay in power. He never really expected to win the election and had very poor advisors around him. He made the mistake of thinking he could do it all alone. He put that idiot Jeff Sessions in as AG without realizing how important the job was. If Vance can move the ball, I’ll support him.

        The answer is not no more Dems and no more Repubs, that’s a perfect recipe to keep electing Dems. You have to play the long game, adopt the strategies of your enemy. Stop demonizing “Rinos”. You need all the votes you can get. That’s how our system works. The ones in charge make the rules, everyone else is window dressing. Every district isn’t Amarillo, TX. You need “moderate” republicans to stay in power. This is how Dems have been effective. They stick together. Primary out those R’s that don’t fall in line.

      1. That was not Charlie Kirk’s doing. That was Biden the Butcher who sent Boris Johnson to squash the tentative peace deal they had in Istanbul in the spring of 2022.

  15. The top socialists have always counted on their large mass of slope-foreheaded imbeciles to take their rhetoric to it’s intended violent conclusion.
    it’s why they keep it up! This is how the communists have seized power every time. The weak-minded are the useful idiots of the evil communist plan.
    Sorry Commie! America is the steadfast bulwark against your anti-human intentions!
    “America will never be a socialist country” –Donald J. Trump

        1. Trump attained power by persuading half the country to vote for him.
          That is how our system works.
          No one held a gun to their head.
          Many voted for Trump as the lessor of two evils.
          While that would be encouraging for democrats – if the democratic party had not driven off a cliff.
          You have no candidates – NO ONE that people will trust.

        2. No strong Americans.
          Sorry to break you glass heart.

          PS…. read up on how Stalin came to power and get back to me.

        3. Anonymous at 9:30 a.m. ……………You’re such a perfect little parrot, so I’ll be polite and ask: Polly want a cracker?

  16. GOP has till the end of the year to start jailing democrats and their criminal
    Else the American People will have to do this themselves

    This can’t continue…Democrats are OPENLY Criminal!

    1. Can we please stop this nonsense ?

      Republicans must lead by example.
      Those who lied – should be exposed as liars – lying is immoral, but in most circumstances it is not a crime.
      People should be punished criminally only for criminal conduct.
      They can be punished by exposure, ridicule, loss of reputation, respect even their jobs for bad conduct that is not criminal.

      The Trump administration is digging up LOTS of evidence of misconduct by deep staters and democrats.
      It should continue to do so.
      Denying funds to those who violate the civil rights of others is following the law.
      Firing people whose conduct was immoral – is following the law.
      Prosecuting those who actually committed crimes – is following the law.

      For criminal prosecutions – Republicans must follow the evidence to the crime and to the person.

      Not explicitly target people.

      1. Well said. USE the law for prosecuting crime and jail those convicted. But time to look for the Money Men and expose them and prosecute those who finance violence.
        Do not throw people out of helicopters.

  17. @theDemocrats need to be jailed by the 10,000’s for
    1) Russian Hoax and Trump Persecution
    2) Protecting bidens and others crimes
    3) Jan 6th entrapment
    4) Voting Crimes
    5) Helping Illegals
    6) Child endangerment!
    7) Killing Charlie Kirk and calls for violence

    1. “1) Russian Hoax and Trump Persecution”
      Only a few people acted criminally.
      There were lies under oath – those can be prosecuted if the statue of limitations has not expired.
      If it has – put them under oath again – and they can tell the truth or be prosecuted for perjury.
      It is now evident that Obama was heavily involved in the effort to “get Trump”
      He can not be prosecuted for that – he has presidential immunity – no different from that of his assassination of Al Awari.
      Hopefully history books will remember his immoral conduct.

      “2) Protecting bidens and others crimes”
      Unless you lied under oath, obstructed justice or participated in their criminal enterprises their is little that can be done.

      “3) Jan 6th entrapment”
      J6 was not a coup – it also was not entrapment.
      It was a legitimate protest that turned into a small riot at the west tunnel entrance of the capital when the CP tear gassed themselves accidentally and then tear gassed previously peaceful and law abiding protestors.

      “4) Voting Crimes”
      You have to catch those – in most states the 2020 ballots and election records have now been destroyed.
      Further the election laws and even state constitutions were not followed. That makes fraud easy it also makes catching and prosecuting it hard to impossible.
      Absent lots of those involved coming forward the best you can hope for is more circumstantial evidence of fraud without the evidence required to prosecute.

      “5) Helping Illegals”
      Only specific activities in aide of illegal immigrants are actually crimes – mustly activities that would also constitute obstruction.
      Further – criminalizing helping people because of their status is anti-american.
      We are a nation of immigrants, just not illegal immigrants.
      “7) Killing Charlie Kirk and calls for violence”

      Tyler Robinson killed Kirk and will be prosecuted for that.
      The requirements for criminalizing speech that advocates for violence are extremely high and should remain that way.

      Republicans should remember that democrats will not remain out of power forever.
      Republicans SHOULD NOT do as democrats did and engage in lawlessness or made up lawfare.

      We are seeing consequences for many of those who are celebrating Kirks assassination – many are being fired
      That is appropriate – no business or institution should want to be associated with people who celebrate assassinations.

  18. Question that is slightly off the main narrative thread: Why would Turley use the official staff photograph of Pelosi that is obviously both old and and airbrushed, when there are myriad photos of her freely available on-line that show her as the hateful, dissipated, vicious, vindictive shrew that she is now? Maybe Turley is attempting to “airbrush” her character, as well?
    File: Pelosi_Official_Photograph.JPG
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Pelosi_Official_Photograph.JPG

            1. You need to turn your phone to landscape mode.

              This isnt the first time you thought a reply was directed at you when it wasnt. Makes u look not so bright.

    1. I wouldn’t blame JT for that. Likely as not, it was the only photo he could find of her looking sober.

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      –Oddball
      “Take it easy Big Joe, some of these people got sensitive feelings.”

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