Throughout his short life, Charlie Kirk enraged many by exposing the hate and hypocrisy of the left in higher education. What is astonishing is that he continues to do it even in death.
As millions mourn his murder around the world, any expressions of sorrow or respect for Kirk are triggering some on the left. Liberals have been arrested for stomping on or burning memorials to Kirk and others have taken to social media to denounce or mock people expressing regrets over the loss. A courthouse memorial was vandalized while a mural to Kirk had to be restored after an attack.
Former Gawker editor Elizabeth Spiers wrote an essay for Nation under the headline: “Charlie Kirk’s Legacy Deserves No Mourning.”
Some of the loudest voices have come from academia.
University of California Irvine lecturer Larry Tenney went on the liberal safe space site, BlueSky, to rave in all caps: “WE KNOW WHO CHARLIE KIRK WAS…”F**k off America” “F**k off Trump” and “F**k all you motherfuckers, idgag about any of you.” (For the non-profane literate, “idgag” means “I don’t give a f**k”).
What is clear from the diatribe is that Kirk also knew exactly who people like Tenney are. He knew that even his appearance or that of his group on campus would trigger many in academia.
For the speech-intolerant, any invitation to debate issues like abortion or transgender policies is intolerable. You are expected to accept their positions as righteous or face their rage. What was even more annoying was the fact that Kirk was winning the debate, young people trapped in the academic echo chamber were showing up en masse as they did at the rally where he died.
Faculty converted higher education into the current echo chamber and then treated students as a captive audience. When given a choice, many rushed to hear alternative views.
Fordham School of Law Professor John Pfaff joined the chorus of those objecting to expressions of respect or regret. Most tellingly, the sin that disqualified Kirk was that he implemented Professor Watchlist, a list of professors deemed the most intolerant and partisan on campuses, so that students could avoid their classes. Pfaff posted:
“Just a reminder Kirk’s organization established the Professor Watchlist, which even the NYT framed as a threat to academic freedom. I don’t get why ppl keep describing him as a good-faith debater. One can say ‘Kirk should not have been murdered’ (which is true!) without engaging in hagiography.”
In Pfaff’s siloed world, the New York Times is apparently so conservative that it is remarkable that “even the NYT” criticized the list. The comment only served to confirm that the relevant scale of comparison for academics today runs exclusively from the left to the far left.
At the University of Tennessee at Knoxville, Anthropology professor Tamar Shirinian. Tamar Shirinian wrote:
“The world is better off without him in it. Even those who are claiming to be sad for his wife and kids….like, his kids are better off living in a world without a disgusting psychopath like him and his wife, well, she’s a sick fuck for marrying him so I dont care about her feelings.”
Syracuse University political science assistant professor Jenn M. Jackson announced “him dying this ways seems both ironic and in line with his own politics.”
Others warned that anyone expressing sorrow was only self-identifying for future lists of fascists.
Martin Pfeiffer, PH.D candidate at the University of New Mexico, warned, “Charlie Kirk was a vicious, hateful fascist and white supremacist. To say anything else is a lie and, quite frankly, fascist collaboration.”
Across the country, efforts by a few professors to get their colleagues to sign letters expressing condolences or concerns over the murder were derailed by some of the same passive-aggressive ideologues who engaged in pearl-clutching objections over divisive positions.
What is most striking about these academics is the total lack of self-awareness, even as they adopt the very intolerance of historical villains in their classes.
The response of these professors is reminiscent of the Greek tragedy Antigone by Sophocles in 441 BCE. In the story, the two sons of Oedipus fight to the death for the throne of Thebes. The tyrant ruler Creon ordered that his favorite of the brothers, Eteocles, be buried with honors while banning anyone from mourning or burying the other brother, Polynices.
To be left on the ground unburied and unmourned was considered a great dishonor and sacrilege. It was too much for his sister, Antigone, who defied the tyrant and buried her brother. For that, Antigone was walled up in a cave and committed suicide.
Kirk’s critics will allow him to be buried, of course, but some cannot tolerate mourning his passing any more than they could tolerate his speaking.
I have opposed calls for firing academics making hateful comments outside of their official duties or accounts. Charlie spent his life opposing cancel campaigns and censorship.
However, it is crushingly ironic to see media and faculty suddenly outraged about cancel campaigns after years of ignoring the purging of conservatives from campuses. Most faculty crying foul today have been entirely silent when conservatives, including Kirk, were targeted in the past.
Faculty have spent decades purging conservatives and libertarians from departments, leaving higher education mired in orthodoxy and intolerance. It is the education version of what Sophocles wrote in Antigone: “A city which belongs to just one man is no true city.” In the same way, a university which belongs to only liberal idelogy is no true university.
“We the People of the United States…secure the Blessings of Liberty TO OURSELVES and OUR POSTERITY, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
– The American Founders, 1789
Dear Prof Turley,
Antigone is a Greek tragedy that “explores the conflict between individual moral duty and state law, centering on Antigone’s defiance of King Creon’s edict to honor her deceased brother, Polynices.” ~ Liberal Arts AI Copilot
Antigone 2.0 also explores the conflict between individual moral duty and state law centering on Trump’s DoJ edict to honor Charlie Kirk. .. and punish those who criticize him.
The moral of the story is the abuse of state power.
*The king of Thebes, who represented the authority of the state, was determined to uphold his laws at all costs.
DG
Trump’s DoJ edict to honor Charlie Kirk. .. and punish those who criticize him.
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Show us a list of the people Prez Trump has gone after…
Unless you live in Plato’s cave, Dusty, Trump’s edict explicitly punishes those who do not honor the memory of Charlie Kirk. By any means necessary .. . including banishment (i.e deportation)
The list of people ‘Prez Trump has gone after’, including the ‘leftist vermin scum’, is too long to list here. And not just here, but around the world .. . this is the 21st century.
*btw, in ancient times banishment was considered a fate worse than death.
DG
So in small words. You have nothing.
Figures. Just like george, you both lie.
This is not about honoring Kirk.
Honor him,
Don’t
But do not piss all over those who are honoring him.
Do not desecrate the dead.
De mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est
“Trump’s edict”
What edict ? Can you give us the EU number ?
US citizens and legal permanent residents can not be deported (bannished).
I highly doubt most illegal immigrants know who Kirk is.
“The list of people ‘Prez Trump has gone after’, including the ‘leftist vermin scum’, is too long to list here.”
I would hope that DOJ is “going after” :leftist vermin scum” that have committed crimes.
Lying under oath, leaking classified information, obstruction of justice.
This is about honoring the memory of Charlie Kirk and Trump’s abuse of state power to punish those who may celebrate his assassination (i.e. ‘hate speech’).
*one of these things is far worse than the other. .. and they’re both bad.
Let’s clean up your rhetoric [switch the heinous killing of Charlie Kirk with the “democrats” favorite subject, J-6, circa 2020-2024]:
This is about honoring the memory of J-6 cop, Brian Sicknick, and Biden’s abuse of state power to punish those who questioned the 2020-Election (i.e. the ‘hate speech’ of “election-deniers”). Brian Sicknick was not murdered by J-6ers, but died of “natural causes.”
dg, you can’t complain about “abuse of power,” when you have had nothing to say about one of the greatest abuses of power in American History, the Biden Administration’s J-6 Conspiracy. The rights and free-speech of thousands were violated in the name of panic-politics.
Bec. I personally intervened to stop several ladies from attending J6. I told them it was A TRAP and not to go .. . and I was right.
*They were going to rent an RV, fill it with booze, and throw a big party.
Did you think you fooled anyone, dg?
We are to thank you for saving several conservative ladies, while not noticing that you have ZERO comment on the REAL-and-TRUE “abuse of power” perpetrated, in the greatest violation of Americans’ rights to free speech and assembly, ever pulled off: by the Biden Administration in broad daylight, in soap-opera J-6-Committee living color, perpetrated against innocent citizens like the ones you saved because you knew it was a trap….please say MORE!….Because it was so much more than a trap.
“Unless you live in Plato’s cave, Dusty, Trump’s edict explicitly punishes those who do not honor the memory of Charlie Kirk.”
Unless your a moron (or a troll), you know Presidents issue Executive Orders, not “edicts”.
Can you provide us with the number of that Executive Order so we can read the sanctions it lays out for the offenses you claim?
Yes, you and George are Comrades From Different Mothers.
“. . . is too long to list here . . .”
So maybe a list is too much to ask.
How about a single person?
Nah.
Nah what?
Nah…. This all you have,
Way to torture reality to create a ludicroulsly stupid analogy.
Antogone is about the moral precept
De mortuis nil nisi bonum
Those on the left are violating it.
This has nothing to do with Trump.
it does not even have alot to do with Kirk.
It is left wing nuts showing us who they really are.
I am HAPPY that those on the left are revealing themselves as the vile human beings they are.
The speach of these left wing nuts is Free Speech, and in atleast some instances their firing may prove to be illegal. That is for the courts to sort out.
But the speach is also as Bondi slipped and noted “Hate speech” – the very speech the left has repeatedly told us the first amendment does not protect.
Regardless, this is fun.
Those of you on the left are $hitting all over yourselves.
Please keep it up.
Please get even more violent.
Please Please do everything in your power to reveal how revolting human beings you are.
You are doing this to yourselves
and you are too stupid to understand.
Can you ever stop with your over-the-top bloviations?! An edict is a legally binding command. In contrast, there are ethical administrative directives that encourage moral responses.
Clearly no edict is involved when leftist-mentally-and-morally-ILL thespians come out of the woodwork to abuse their own power of free speech in counterpoint, however vile. This is now, and has always been, ALLOWED. If these “free speakers and actors” want to FAFO, they have to know that their employers have the right, and are FREE, to make determinations about their characters, thus their retained employment, as they always have….
Bloviating! You confuse my criticism of Trump’s “ethical administrative directives that encourage moral responses” with defending the “leftist mentally-and-morally-ILL thespians”, Bec. .. heal thyself.
*In any case, Trump controls the levers of state power .. . and lets all hope the ‘leftist mentally and morally Ill thespians’ get the help they need.
I get your point. When it comes to the cannibalism going on, you will have to admit that some ‘ingesters” are more restrained than others. But surely, you don’t think that a grave injustice should be met with pure silence, that a moral-outrage should be brushed aside. People have feelings, and they will out, but your end of the spectrum will never “get the help it needs” if you don’t call them out YOURSELF!
And Haemon to Creon (but also to us all, essentially, at this point):
“Do not believe that you alone can be right.
The man you thinks that,
The man who maintains that only he has the power
To reason correctly, the gift to speak, the soul–
A man like that, when you know him, turns out empty.”
Ben Franklin reminds us to temper ourselves for the greater good, to not tear ourselves apart, for the sake of liberty for our posterity:
“A republic, madam, if you can keep it.”
By doing something evil, they become something evil. These people are damaging their own souls. Nor will any of this be lost on God or ignored by him. There will be a reckoning.
Charlie’s faith was not in the people or systems of this earth but in Heaven. He fulfilled a godly purpose on earth to bring people back to God, back to freedom, and back to an inclusive and civilized discourse.
Like may saints who went before him, Charlie was martyred for carrying out God’s purposes. The demons of Hell are now reacting to that, which is coming through in the words and actions of depraved and reprobate people. Some of these people will eventually realize their error and change course, and we can celebrate those. History teaches that most will not, which will be to their everlasting loss.
OMFK
I agree 100%.
But I would add – that even if there is no god. this conduct poisons your soul and ruins your life.
“ Like many saints who went before him, Charlie was martyred for carrying out God’s purposes. ”
We are deifying Kirk now? Wow. Charlie Kirk is no saint nor is he a martyr, but conservatives are sure trying hard to make him into one by making a whole lot of false claims, speculating, and assuming things not in evidence.
The assassination will fade away just as easily as Trump’s assassination attempts. Mere blips in Americans’ famously consistent short memory spans.
So ABC plays cover for the killer.
NUTS
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A brutal cold-blooded murder of a good person doesn’t matter to ABC ‘News’ when they have a touching love story? This is the ABC News trans love story we were all waiting for. The killer, Tyler Robinson, and his fellow furry partner Lance were watching animals coupling together. So touching.
ABC is lost.
@Dustoff
Nuts doesn’t begin to cover it. It is beyond nuts. Gonzo. Insane. Inhuman. The left seems to be actively catering to the insane and depraved at this point, if they aren’t simply run by them now. It is absolute madness in the truest sense of the word, and as I stated below, there are no words for it; there are certainly no excuses. I never thought I’d see the face of evil on this scale in my lifetime, but that is what we are dealing with, and as I annoyingly point out from time to time, I say this as a non-religious independent. ABC’s ‘report’ on the loss of a human life through violent hatred is sick on levels I could have only previously imagined. I do not now how these people live with themselves. That they apparently can tells me they are simply not well, not in any sense of the word.
I am not a fan of tropes or rushes to judgement, but it’s indisputable at this point: we cannot hate the modern media enough. This is blatant and disgusting, and someone got paid to do it, happily accepting the money. Engagement farms are one thing; here, we are talking about public and intentionally broadcast malevolence.
440 B.C. Antigone
2025 A.D. Antagone
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1967284769999479211?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1967284769999479211%7Ctwgr%5Ed7cac9e6fcf0ba0d5eb43f5eea45a9f0a5c18ea2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vibe.com%2Fnews%2Fnational%2Ftexas-tech-student-expelled-disrupting-charlie-kirk-vigil-1235120279%2F
Antifagone
Excellent
except that it’s pronounced “An-tig-ann-eee” “an-tag-ann-eee”
and so the Leftist violence continues unabated……
They have learned nothing and respect nothing except superior force.
The unhinged reactions oozing from the ghouls who cannot tolerate the free speech rights — let alone the rational content — of Charlie Kirk’s words is now on open and full display, and the ghouls are proud of it. The view is ugly. If it looks, walks and talks like a ghoul…, maybe it IS a ghoul.
The lefties don’t seem to understand they offend others, too, but those others don’t want to kill them. I hope that doesn’t change, but they seem determined to change it.
Rabble:
Oh no, Mr Diogenes, they fully understand they offend others with words. The issue between them and us is, for them, words mean nothing. Words and language are malleable to the left, used purely as a means to garnish more power. This is why they gleefully redefine and obfuscate our language, make it harder for actually conversation to happen, and then blame us when their definitions don’t stick.
You’re right.
1. Start at home. Parents be aware of kids views.
2. No crazies on school boards. No politics in schools.
3. SHAME ! Open advocates of hate/violence.
4. Professors like this guy should “shunned” and shamed at work.
5. Schools contact police re. Students inappropriate expressions of hate!
6. Enforce gun laws! Especially red flag laws.
7. Review all gun licenses, resubmit license. Increase costs. Increase waiting period to 2 months for new license applications. Age limits. 25 years to own , local police backup when applying.
In an abrupt about-face, King Charles III of the United Kingdom announced on Monday that he was downgrading Donald J. Trump’s upcoming state visit to lunch with Prince Andrew.
Instead of Windsor Castle, where the state visit was to be held, the lunch between Andrew and Trump will now occur at a Pizza Express restaurant in Woking.
According to royal sources, Andrew was “incandescent with rage” when his older brother informed him of the engagement, but the King told him, “Sorry, old chap, you’ve got to take one for the team.”
After Andrew asked what he and Trump could possibly talk about over their pizza, Charles suggested, “Maybe you two can reminisce about your good times with Jeffrey Epstein.”
^ Chinese Communist Party troll. Ignore. ^
May your enchilada and beans explode in your microwave, anon.
I appreciate the humor.
But I am troubled b the fact that so many of those of you on the left,
beleive nonsense like this.
It’s more troubling that you think the left believes such things.
Ironically, the same people who are cheering Charlie’s execution also oppose the death penalty for convicted murderers.
They favor the death penalty for the innocent (conservative speakers, unborn babies), but not for the most guilty.
Do you notice that these so-called academics are incredibly inarticulate and coarse in their glorifications of Kirk’s death? They are PhD’s in the humanities incapable of writing a sentence or two without using the “F” word. It demonstrates that a low level of intelligence is no barrier to a PhD in the modern American university.
AlanK: “Do you notice that these so-called academics are incredibly inarticulate and coarse in their glorifications of Kirk’s death?”
Yes I did notice but had gotten so used to it that I was close to ignoring it.
Thank you for highlighting it.
I suppose some are simply embracing ghetto-talk while others are simply stupid.
DEI has significantly lowered the average quality of professors and leftists. Bertrand Russell leaned left but his discourse was elevated and interesting even if you disagreed and he wouldn’t shoot you if you had a different opinion.
For all the raving about Nazis, their coarse, brutish speech and behavior closely resembles Hitler’s Brownshirts.
By contrast, I cannot imagine professors whom I respect, like Professor Turley or Harvard’s Professor Steven Pinker, speaking in this way.
Perhaps it because they truly have something to say and have mastered the skill of saying it clearly and with elegance.
But they are increasingly rare in our much degraded universities.
The culture of violence within the ghetto has been mainstreamed by the Left in media and academia.
Another observation: it’s strange to me that these shooters–Luigi, Crooks, and Robinson–are all highly intelligent, young white men from conservative families. It might just be a coincidence, but if I wanted to recruit assassins to unalive conservatives, these young men are exactly the choices I would make. Their backgrounds create doubt about who is behind it, and they’re smart enough to pull off assassinations.
Just sayin’.
Rabble:
Their greatest converts are those who were raised conservative christian, who went through their indoctrination programs of public education, who now doubt their family values, and are weak and vulnerable.
I praise my father every day for keeping me open to free thought, and not letting me fall.
“if I wanted to recruit assassins to unalive conservatives, these young men are exactly the choices I would make. ”
All three killers were in the most violence-prone age range, where echo chambers can rapidly turn grievance into action. Likely, federal investigators will examine their online groups. Hostile actors can infiltrate such spaces with fake “agreeable” personas that amplify paranoia, glorify violence, reward militant talk, and quietly plant tactical ideas. Inside the echo chamber, this feels self-generated, not manipulated, making it a powerful and invisible way to steer vulnerable young men toward killing. This is not new.
All true.
There is something that we have to keep in mind. The nation is not as divided as we have been led to believe. Sixty five percent of the nation now disapprove of the Democratic Party. They lost the Whitehouse the Senate and the House of Representatives. The blue wall that the left thought was impenetrable was turned to ruble and the bricks turned from blue to red. They want you to think that we are evenly divided but the voters are now more united than ever. As each day passes the leftists have been exposed for who they really are. Celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death flagrantly before the nation is just one more confirmation of their relentless pursuit of a totalitarian utopian nation. They hated Charle Kirk because he brought the college students indoctrination by socialist professors out of the darkness into the light. Sixty five percent of the nation is loudly saying NO MORE!
Vote and donate.
(“Just a reminder Kirk’s organization established the Professor Watchlist, which even the NYT framed as a threat to academic freedom.”)
The tragic irony and hypocrisy of the left is astounding. They are, at this point, so fossilized in their radical progressive ideology that they are incapable of seeing grotesque nature of such a statement. Even though they have become the largest threat to academic freedom ever seen since the Inquisition or in any madrassas today.
How can anyone with a functioning brain stem take anyone of them seriously or, even worse, how can taxpayer monies continue to flow into these concentration camps of thinking.
Elizabeth Spiers essay is vile in itself !
Prof. Turley,
You say that you have opposed firing these people – unless they have done so in the context of their official duties.
Why ?
These are comments are voluntarily made and demonstrate why none of these people should be teaching anyone.
I support free speech for actual Nazi’s. I do not support hiring Nazi’s to teach children.
I have no problem with Firing people who demonstrate that they are not qualified to do the job.
Though the Nazi analogy might be weak.
It is not the ideology of these people that is the major disqualification
It is their revolting character.
“ Prof. Turley,
You say that you have opposed firing these people – unless they have done so in the context of their official duties.
Why ?”
Why? Because they are people with opinions too. To be able to express their views outside of their work hours is their right and it’s protected speech. Professor Turley understands that.
“ These are comments are voluntarily made and demonstrate why none of these people should be teaching anyone.”
Why? Just because they hold certain views personally does not mean they will add them to their profession. Professors and teachers are smart enough to separate their professional views from their personal views. You seem to think they are incapable of that for some reason. Sure, some don’t or make poor decisions when raw emotions are involved. It’s not exclusive to the left mind you it’s also applicable to those on the right.
“ Though the Nazi analogy might be weak.
It is not the ideology of these people that is the major disqualification
It is their revolting character.“
It IS weak, and it’s stupid.
You don’t think some racist teachers or professors still stick to their professionalism? That they are not able to keep their character separate from their job requirements?
Professor Turley is constantly advocating for more conservative viewpoints in academia. Conservative viewpoints, justifying slavery, racism, morality, anti-LBGTQ positions, etc. Conservatives with questionable character. They represent a different point of view to Turley yet strangely he wonders why they have been “purged” from academia. Perhaps you are onto something about character. Maybe conservatives are viewed as people with good morals, but poor in character because of the actions of other more radical conservatives.
X
Why? Because they are people with opinions too
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They sure did, but that doesn’t mean you won’t pay the price for your opinions.
The left just doesn’t get it.
“Why? Because they are people with opinions too. To be able to express their views outside of their work hours is their right and it’s protected speech. Professor Turley understands that.”
All correct. You are also free to speak out advocating pedophilia, genocide,
and no one should hire you.
“Why? Just because they hold certain views personally does not mean they will add them to their profession.”
Not true and not relevant. Are you going to allow people who outspokenly advocate for pedophilia to teach your kids ?
You are under the delusion that a job is a right – it is not.
“Professors and teachers are smart enough to separate their professional views from their personal views.”
If these people were actually smart – they would not be spewing garbage like this on social media.
If you were smart you would not be making idiotic claims like this.
“You seem to think they are incapable of that for some reason.”
That is true, but irrelevant.
What they post reveals their Character – which like yours is BLACK.
YOU are free to hire vile people to teach your children – I am not required to, and I fully support the schools and colleges that choose to fire these vile human beings, who shoudl not teach anyone’s children.
But I am NOT demanding they be fired. I am not proposing a Law or Rule that must be followed.
I am noting that Just as these people are free to show us the vile creatures they are.
Schools and colleges are free to decide – these people should not be teaching our students.
Schools and colleges are ALSO free to NOT fire them.
And I will make my choices as to what schools to send my kids to based on those decisions.
Free Speech is NOT the only freedom we have.
We also have the freedom to seek to have our kids educated by those who are NOT revolting human beings.
Colleges have the freedom to fire teachers who are vile human beings because they beleive that parents do not want their kids taught by these people.
Other colleges can decide to keep them.
And we will see which colleges attract more and the best and brightest students.
That is how freedom actually works.
The first amendment bars Government aka FORCE from restricting freedom.
You fail to grasp that the freedom to speak as you please, does not come at the expense of the freedom to disassociate yourself from those who speak vilely.
Both Free Association and Free speech are in the first amendment.
Free association not only includes the right to hang out with Nazi’s.
It MUST include the right to NOT hang out with Nazis.
” Sure, some don’t or make poor decisions when raw emotions are involved. It’s not exclusive to the left mind you it’s also applicable to those on the right.”
Do not care even the tiniest bit.
So long as you keep government out of it entirely – we are each free to hire woke left wing nuts, fire woke left wing nuts, Hire actual Nazis, Fire actual Nazis.
“It IS weak, and it’s stupid.”
Nope it is a perfectly good analogy, it is weak because the core issue I am addressing is bad character not ideology.
“You don’t think some racist teachers or professors still stick to their professionalism?”
I do not think there are more than 0.0001% consequentially racist teachers or professors in the country – that is if we exclude the racism of the left.
Separately – I do not care.
Should I allow people who advocated for pedo’s to teach young children – even if they have never actually diddled a kid ?
“That they are not able to keep their character separate from their job requirements?”
No I do not beleive they can. Bad character permeates your entire life.
“Conservative viewpoints, justifying slavery, racism, morality, anti-LBGTQ positions, etc. ”
ROFL
Please find a consequential conservative justifying slavery.
justifying racism,
Just because idiots like you have defined anything short of giving the country back to the indians and paying blacks Trillions in Reparations – mostly from immigrants who fought slavery, as justifying slavery, does not make that true.
There is a huge difference between pointing out the idiotic exagerations of the left and supporting slavery or racism.
In the US significant past racism (as well as slavery) are almost entirely from democrats.
“Conservatives with questionable character.”
Should not be teaching. I will be happy to support firing them when they identify themselves.
“Maybe conservatives are viewed as people with good morals, but poor in character because of the actions of other more radical conservatives.”
Except that view is only held by the left fringe in the country, and for the most part not based in FACT.
BTW you can not be both moral and of bad character at the same time.
You can be hypocritical about morals and over bad character.
X at the very core – all your arguments fail for much the same reason.
EVERYTHING IS NOT EQUAL.
You do not chose the same food for breakfast as I do.
We are not equally qualified to teach or build bridges or fly airplanes.
We are not equally moral.
Our values are not equal.
Our contributions to the world are not equal.
Because we are not equal – we do not have an equal right to the same job. In fact we have NO RIGHT AT ALL to a job.
To get a job – we must either create the job ourselves – and then we are answerable to clients.
Or we must persuade those hiring that the sum of our various attributes makes us the best choice for the job. Just as they are free to hire us based on that evaluation, they are also free to fire us – when it turns out that we are not the person we claimed to be.
Humans are not Ants – we are not interchangeable.
A professor who exposes that they are a poor choice – should be fired.
True freedom means that YOU are free to hire him if you wish,
and I will boycott your school.
(It is not the ideology of these people that is the major disqualification – It is their revolting character.) I dare say that you can’t have one without the other. I takes a certain moral blindness to even contemplate progressive ideology in that it is a utopian promise that, in reality, can never be achieved because of human nature.
Since the beginning of time man has found the requirement of established laws of behavior based on the observable nature of humans in general and that to coexist within a large group, certain limits must be placed on behavior. How the progressives can claim freedom of expression (ie transgenderism) yet deny Charlie Kirk his freedom of expression is the perfect illustration of the imminent failure of their ideology.
“(It is not the ideology of these people that is the major disqualification – It is their revolting character.) I dare say that you can’t have one without the other. I takes a certain moral blindness to even contemplate progressive ideology in that it is a utopian promise that, in reality, can never be achieved because of human nature.”
Generally I agree. but utopian schemes are tremendously appealing to all of us. That does not make us bad people or of bad character.
Learning that Utopian schemes do not work and STILL foisting them on others by force is bad character.
We have become a sick society of dangerous and deranged psychos and lunatics. So sad.
We? Look at the hatemongers here.
We? I guess you’re right.
From the LEFT, yes you are right
25% ?
To supply the necessary (but missing) context and nuance Professor Turley, are these people you’re referring to overwhelmingly Democrats? Or a mixture that includes a lot of Independents and Republicans?
“Throughout his short life, Charlie Kirk enraged many by exposing the hate and hypocrisy of the left in higher education. What is astonishing is that he continues to do it even in death.”
Well, let see… looking at this blog, he has to mean Republicans.
Thanks Professor Turley for summarizing this for us. I have to say that the radicalism of the echo chamber is much worse than I realized.
Maybe this time Creon will be buried alive and the nation will be saved.
Which one is Creon today? It seems there are many.