Antigone 2.0: Liberals Denounce and Destroy Memorials for Charlie Kirk

Throughout his short life, Charlie Kirk enraged many by exposing the hate and hypocrisy of the left in higher education. What is astonishing is that he continues to do it even in death.

As millions mourn his murder around the world, any expressions of sorrow or respect for Kirk are triggering some on the left. Liberals have been arrested for stomping on or burning memorials to Kirk and others have taken to social media to denounce or mock people expressing regrets over the loss. A courthouse memorial was vandalized while a mural to Kirk had to be restored after an attack.

Former Gawker editor Elizabeth Spiers wrote an essay for Nation under the headline: “Charlie Kirk’s Legacy Deserves No Mourning.”

Some of the loudest voices have come from academia.

University of California Irvine lecturer Larry Tenney went on the liberal safe space site, BlueSky, to rave in all caps: “WE KNOW WHO CHARLIE KIRK WAS…”F**k off America” “F**k off Trump” and “F**k all you motherfuckers, idgag about any of you.” (For the non-profane literate, “idgag” means “I don’t give a f**k”).

What is clear from the diatribe is that Kirk also knew exactly who people like Tenney are. He knew that even his appearance or that of his group on campus would trigger many in academia.

For the speech-intolerant, any invitation to debate issues like abortion or transgender policies is intolerable. You are expected to accept their positions as righteous or face their rage. What was even more annoying was the fact that Kirk was winning the debate, young people trapped in the academic echo chamber were showing up en masse as they did at the rally where he died.

Faculty converted higher education into the current echo chamber and then treated students as a captive audience. When given a choice, many rushed to hear alternative views.

Fordham School of Law Professor John Pfaff joined the chorus of those objecting to expressions of respect or regret. Most tellingly, the sin that disqualified Kirk was that he implemented Professor Watchlist, a list of professors deemed the most intolerant and partisan on campuses, so that students could avoid their classes. Pfaff posted:

“Just a reminder Kirk’s organization established the Professor Watchlist, which even the NYT framed as a threat to academic freedom. I don’t get why ppl keep describing him as a good-faith debater. One can say ‘Kirk should not have been murdered’ (which is true!) without engaging in hagiography.”

In Pfaff’s siloed world, the New York Times is apparently so conservative that it is remarkable that “even the NYT” criticized the list. The comment only served to confirm that the relevant scale of comparison for academics today runs exclusively from the left to the far left.

At the University of Tennessee at Knoxville, Anthropology professor Tamar Shirinian. Tamar Shirinian wrote:

“The world is better off without him in it. Even those who are claiming to be sad for his wife and kids….like, his kids are better off living in a world without a disgusting psychopath like him and his wife, well, she’s a sick fuck for marrying him so I dont care about her feelings.”

Syracuse University political science assistant professor Jenn M. Jackson  announced “him dying this ways seems both ironic and in line with his own politics.”

Others warned that anyone expressing sorrow was only self-identifying for future lists of fascists.

Martin Pfeiffer, PH.D candidate at the University of New Mexico, warned, “Charlie Kirk was a vicious, hateful fascist and white supremacist. To say anything else is a lie and, quite frankly, fascist collaboration.”

Across the country, efforts by a few professors to get their colleagues to sign letters expressing condolences or concerns over the murder were derailed by some of the same passive-aggressive ideologues who engaged in pearl-clutching objections over divisive positions.

What is most striking about these academics is the total lack of self-awareness, even as they adopt the very intolerance of historical villains in their classes.

The response of these professors is reminiscent of the Greek tragedy Antigone by Sophocles in 441 BCE. In the story, the two sons of Oedipus fight to the death for the throne of Thebes. The tyrant ruler Creon ordered that his favorite of the brothers, Eteocles,  be buried with honors while banning anyone from mourning or burying the other brother, Polynices.

To be left on the ground unburied and unmourned was considered a great dishonor and sacrilege. It was too much for his sister, Antigone, who defied the tyrant and buried her brother. For that, Antigone was walled up in a cave and committed suicide.

Kirk’s critics will allow him to be buried, of course, but some cannot tolerate mourning his passing any more than they could tolerate his speaking.

I have opposed calls for firing academics making hateful comments outside of their official duties or accounts. Charlie spent his life opposing cancel campaigns and censorship.

However, it is crushingly ironic to see media and faculty suddenly outraged about cancel campaigns after years of ignoring the purging of conservatives from campuses.  Most faculty crying foul today have been entirely silent when conservatives, including Kirk, were targeted in the past.

Faculty have spent decades purging conservatives and libertarians from departments, leaving higher education mired in orthodoxy and intolerance. It is the education version of what Sophocles wrote in Antigone: “A city which belongs to just one man is no true city.” In the same way, a university which belongs to only liberal idelogy is no true university.

539 thoughts on “Antigone 2.0: Liberals Denounce and Destroy Memorials for Charlie Kirk”

    1. From “Newsweek”:

      “Charlie Kirk has made several controversial comments regarding Martin Luther King Jr. (MLK) and the Civil Rights Act.
      He has called MLK “awful” and “not a good person,” stating that he only believed one good thing he actually didn’t believe.

      Kirk has criticized the Civil Rights Act of 1964, claiming it was a “huge mistake” and expressed disdain for affirmative action, suggesting it was used by “unqualified” individuals.

      He has also referred to MLK as a “myth” and questioned the historical context of his legacy, arguing that while he was alive, most people disliked him, and today he is revered.

      These statements have sparked significant debate and controversy, reflecting Kirk’s shift in stance from previous praise to criticism of MLK and the civil rights movement.”

      Most sane individuals would categorize such comments as racist. NO ONE is “making up” these things, which are not the only “controversial” things Kirk has said. If there wasn’t the Civil Rights Act, states and other governmental entities could try to prevent blacks from voting by enacting requirements calculated to make it difficult to register, difficult to vote (they did it before the Civil Rights Act), force them to sit at the back of the bus, force them to go to separate schools, drink from separate fountains, not be allowed to rent apartments or houses except in red lined areas, and otherwise deny them the same rights as white people.

      1. Most sane individuals would categorize such comments as racist.

        Most thoughtful, well-informed people understand that his specific criticisms have nothing to do with racism, but are valid social policy criticisms of the CRA, and of the private conduct of MLK, that are shared by responsible scholars, including African American scholars. If you can find a valid quote where he is expressing hatred against Blacks as such, let me know. Until then, STFU

      2. “Most sane individuals would categorize such comments as racist. NO ONE is “making up” these things, which are not the only “controversial” things Kirk has said. ”

        Sane people – which excludes hate filled Biden/Antifa “anti-fascist” and Tranny Democrats along with those of them smearing Kirk before he’s even buried – know there’s a very good reason you ensure you strip away every word that provides context and nuance before presenting your cherrypicked and altered versions of what Charlie Kirk said. As though you ever listened to a word Kirk ever said – versus copying and pasting from other Democrats to repeat their claims.

        The tell is that it’s “controversial” rather than mainstream for sane individuals to reject Democrats who believe little boys can become little girls through choosing to demand chemical castration and surgery.

        That it’s “controversial” of Kirk – not radical Democrat party theology – when he rejects Democrats saying parents must allow male trannies to swing their junk in little girls’ changerooms and women must submit to adult male trannies competing against them in womens’ sports.

        Are we to believe that the only real problem here is Democrats repeatedly demonstrate they don’t know what words like “controversial”, “racist” and “fascist” actually mean?

        Seems a fair question: Freud in the early 1900’s described ‘channeling’ as when people suffering from psychiatric illnesses transferred their failings, crimes, perversions, etc onto those they hated the most as a form of self-confession to deal with their own internal guilt.

    2. He literally said that he would not take a plan flown by a black pilot.

      “If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.”

      – The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

      Also, this nugget of wisdom:

      “If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”

      – The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

      1. If you had to have brain surgery, and you learned your surgeon got his position based on something other than merit, would you hope the surgeon was qualified? You people are so stupid, you can’t come up with anything besides your own stupid interpretations of valid non-racist statements.

        1. Not the same thing. When did we “learn” the surgeon got his position based on something other than merit?

          You are assuming that because of his race, he didn’t get the position based on merit.

          Can you find the specific reference in Kirk’s quote where he says he wouldn’t take a plane after seeing the hiring details of the pilot and a conducting a thorough review of his resume?

          1. What a stupid comment. If a surgeon belongs to an identifiable class whose members were hired or promoted based on considerations other than merit, it is entirely rational to suspect that such is true of a specific member of that class. You really don’t have much of a brain, do you?

      2. Affirmative Action is racist. By its very definition. And . . . it does more to denigrate the merit of minorities than anything else in society. It’s a twisted philosophy that someone who points these things out is himself racist. You are all such f—g liars.

      1. Leftist logic: I don’t have to listen to Charlie Kirk’s actual words and try to understand them in context. I can just mindlessly repeat the slander I see on BlueSky and perpetuate that slander as valid just because I say it is.

        Leftist logic: even though a Black young lady has listened for ten straight years and not heard a single racist statement, we don’t have to believe her. I’d rather believe the made-up slander I get from BlueSky because it conforms to my prejudices.

  1. Unfettered hatred for C K enables the foreign enemies within (ANTIFA, Socialist Democrats, radical Islam) to gain traction to fundamentally transform America; leading to the Fall of the U S A.

  2. The left just can’t stop shooting themselves in the foot.
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    Watch Jasmine Crockett Try to Rationalize How People on the Left Supposedly Can’t ‘Make a Shot From 200 Yards’

  3. I don’t think that I have ever seen (or known of) such an outpouring of schadenfreude over the death of one person. Perhaps if social media was available at the death of Martin Luther King Jr. in 1968, then we might have witnessed some people pleased with the result but the overwhelming national reaction was one of grief. For someone such as Mr. Kirk who actively and frequently visited campuses for debates on controversial social topics but was himself non-credentialed, it must have more than annoyed the faculty to witness an autodidact vigorously and successfully debating all comers on the very grounds of institutions whose business is to grant credentials. So I can see that there would be some who are silently relieved to be rid of this “gadfly” (“Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?”, Henry II). But we are witnessing much more than a few odd-balls – many of those openly expressing malicious and disturbing words are from the educated and enlightened part of society. Clearly, achieving educational credentials and leading a moral life are not synonymous. The problem is not limited to the many that have expressed their schadenfreude but I would warrant that for every person expressing these malicious and disturbing words, there are many more thinking along those same lines. Has this society always harbored so many disturbed and malicious people but now social media has allowed anyone to widely publish their vile thoughts? Or was Mr. Kirk unique in bringing to the fore societal issues that inflame our animal spirits?

    To get a glimpse of the thinking of those celebrating Mr. Kirk’s demise, I looked at Elizabeth Spiers’ essay cited & linked above in Prof. Turley’s column. The first thing that jumps out is the gross (mis)characterization of Mr. Kirk in the subtitle: “The white Christian nationalist provocateur wasn’t a promoter of civil discourse. He preached hate, bigotry, and division.” Not a whole lot of positivity here but nothing specific either in the article to back up the claim. As she memorably says defending her one-sided vitriol, “Joseph Goebbels was a gifted marketer and loving father to six children.” Her technique is, ironically, an homage to Goebbels whom she professes to detest. She writes: “The man [Mr. Kirk] who smeared Black women like Ketanji Brown Jackson and Michelle Obama…”. It is true that Mr. Kirk did disparage Justice Jackson and Michelle Obama, but not because they were black women specifically, but because they enjoyed the benefits of affirmative action policies rather than achieve positions based on merit. But it is not true that he smeared black women in general. On the subject of the 2nd amendment and gun control, she writes: “When he [Mr. Kirk] said “some gun deaths” are acceptable, he surely knew he lived in a country where the deaths he deemed acceptable included those of children, some of whom were the age of his own.” What she didn’t write is that Mr. Kirk analogized the acceptance of gun ownership to car usage. We could eliminate motor vehicle deaths (annually in the tens of thousands) but that society has tolerated some level of motor vehicle fatalities because of the utility of operating cars – similar with guns. Given that context, while one could still disagree with Mr. Kirk, his statement is not outrageous as Elizabeth Spiers makes it out to be. In a final example Elizabeth Spiers attempts to debunk Mr. Kirk’s debates: “His {Mr. Kirk] entire business was saying the other side was evil and dehumanizing them. The debates were simply performances, and he could not have an entertaining public fight without opposition. ” Anyone who has watched or listened to (https://omny.fm/shows/the-charlie-kirk-show/charlie-kirk-vs-the-university-of-oxford) Charlie Kirk at Oxford and his engaging style could simply not conclude that he was dehumanizing anyone. So Elizabeth Spiers is not engaging in an honest response to Mr. Kirk’s positions, but rather creating a straw-man and then poking holes in it. I think that it is fair to say that many of us might be upset if Charlie Kirk did indeed embody Spiers’ straw-man, but he did not. A bit of honesty in journalism would go a long way towards shedding some light on Charlie Kirk and the social issues of the day.

    1. Given the essay of Elizabeth Spiers, one can perhaps understand the mindset and attitude that reigned upon the flogging and crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

      1. What? He said, they don’t know what they’re doing.

        Presumably that means they’re stupid? No, ignorant of the law. That makes Spiers ignorant and very dangerously ignorant.

        1. I would surmise that Elizabeth Spiers is not ignorant but willfully driven to cleverly assemble arguments, however specious, to make her position appear correct. This is worse than ignorance. With an ignorant person one can, presumably through an exchange of ideas, persuade that person to adopt a position supported by all relevant facts. In the case of someone such as Elizabeth Spiers, who willfully sloughs off facts that don’t support her favored narrative, no amount of the marshaling of facts and logic will change their minds. They seem to be committed to a particular point of view. Internally, they sense that any shift from their favored point of view will necessarily be catastrophic to the entire logical edifice that they have constructed. That can’t be allowed to happen. So they construct the best logical narrative, using selective facts and seemly minor extensions that aren’t exactly supported by facts but are close enough to seem as if they were, to maintain their point of view. What is troubling for me is that these are not few in numbers. For these people, I don’t know what is the antidote.

  4. Did Rush Limbaugh express hatred towards the Clintons and Obamas, or is that okay when a conservative does it?

    1. “Did Rush Limbaugh express hatred towards the Clintons and Obamas, or is that okay when a conservative does it?”

      No he didn’t. He held them up to ridicule while tearing apart what they hoped would be accepted as rational. And he mocked them and the Democrat Useful Idiots who believed every word they said to deny what they were doing in the White House. Adults know that criticism, exposing lies, corruption, even ridiculing Democrats doing that and their double standards is NOT “expressing hatred”.

      Here’s a rhetorical question that isn’t a false piece of slander as yours is: Do Democrats always declare that anyone questioning their Dear Leaders or ridiculing things like having a a known pedophile and serial rapist like Harvey Weinstein as a White House house guest around their daughters for EIGHT YEARS is clearly an expression of hatred?

      We can let adults make up their own minds about your answer to that is.

  5. At this point I’m happy to triple dip: what, precisely, is ‘liberal’ about the modern left? Pfft. The shark has been jumped. Spare us. You all have lied for decades and are lying now. The difference in 2025 is that we know you are lying. And we will never trust you again.

    1. James- the left held the moral high ground in the 1960s when it was actually liberal – promoting civil rights, desegregation, working class rights, and an end to the Vietnam War. I’m not saying they were always right, but they at least had some moral gravity and were successful in large part because of that.

      Today the Left is the opposite of what it was in the 1960s – promoting racism, big government censorship, and endless wars (this last one with their compatriots, the Neocons) – and they have accordingly given up the moral high ground. Now the moral high ground is held by MAGA, which promotes race-blind admissions, hiring, and promotion; free speech; the interests of the working class against corporate globalist oligarchs; and world peace. I therefore believe MAGA will be successful in implementing its agenda, and the wonderful events of November 5, 2024, are not only proof, but just the beginning.

    1. That’s exactly what Charlie Kirk thought too. And the left demonized him and ultimately killed him, proving your point.

  6. Columbia’s faculty started a major pushback against free speech several years ago by forming the Academic Freedom Council (AFC) whose principals are:

    “Freedom of Inquiry and Expression: We believe in academic freedom and freedom of expression in teaching, research, and its public dissemination for all members of the Columbia community.

    Intellectual Diversity: We believe that the Columbia community benefits from the inclusion of individuals—students and scholars, from Columbia and elsewhere—who hold a broad range of First Amendment-protected opinions and who feel free to express them because of an open and robust academic environment.

    Civil Discourse: We believe in and encourage earnest, courteous, respectful, collegial, and courageous discussion of ideas and disagreement, both within and beyond the classroom.”

    AFC recently held a conference honoring 32 “academics, students, and teachers who have shown extraordinary courage in defending unorthodox or disfavored intellectual views.” Among the recepients was Martin Kuldorf, former Professor of Medicine at Harvard, who became toxic when he co-authored the Great Barrington Declaration petition opposing the lockdown policies instituted during the Covid pandemic. He was recently appointed to HHS’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.

    For those interested in more information AFC’s website is:

    https://www.columbia-academic-freedom.org/about

    1. It’s good to see pushback against speech restrictions in academia. It’s also good to see that professionals such as Dr. Kuldorf, who were persecuted by the dictatorial regime that ruled between 2021-2025 – including not just the government, but the institutions which they corrupted – are now being honored with positions of responsibility in public affairs. Nothing could be a better rebuke of the fascist demons that lorded it over us for four years.

    1. Free speech doesn’t mean freedom from criticism. If what they wrote is hateful and disgusting, then all free speech advocates everywhere should denounce it. You appear too intellectually challenged to understand a relatively simple concept like that.

      1. Does criticism mean that the criticizer would prefer that the content had not been written? That it not exist?

        1. Well, more like the arguments from the left, the values that engulf ideas similar to cancer is good for you and the sun probably is being pushed by a dung beetle don’t spark the rights interest.

    2. Because, when there’s a double standard, and the one who is double, doubles down, well, it’s time to SAY something.

      Doxxing and cancelling is exactly what the extreme-left has so maliciously pushed and forced over the years—it is tempting to fight their fire with their kind of fire (injustice by fake “virtue” and NOT conforming to any rules and standards of civic decency). But here’s the difference you cant seem to understand, the price you pay is merely “upset”-rhetoric you don’t like—not blood spilled.

      Are you such a totalitarian that you will deny speech?

      1. “Doxxing and cancelling is exactly what the extreme-left has so maliciously pushed and forced over the years”

        You have got to be kidding me. Charlie Kirk was a master at Doxing. That is how he got his start. In fact, his doxing list of “woke” professors is still online.

        Get a life, unsavory actions are done without regard to party affiliation. But there is a fact the right wants to ignore, the right does far more violence than the left. The DOJ even put a document out about tit. But this little fact is inconvenient for the current administration so they disbanded the group that was studying who does political violence.

        1. WHICH DOJ, put out the document about political violence?—Were you asleep during the BLM fiery-but-peaceful culture-events???

          WHICH DOJ matters! The Biden administration had full control and access to government documentation, up until his last day in office only 9-months ago, so it is clear that they would have skewed and dis-informed, projected, about their party’s character and predilections.

          Your claims don’t hold water.

  7. I was going to modify Cagney’s famous statement: “Come out and take it, you dirty yellow-bellied rat, or I’ll give it to you through the door” the coward hiding in the closet really says it all.

    The media’s favorite refrain “Yes But” or said in layman’s terms “you do the same thing” they improvise in the obfuscation of factual information. Example of deceitful word usage: [progress left] / [right wing] though neutral meanings, one’s positive the other can have negative implications. One of right wing’s (ha-ha’s) successes has been making the word “WOKE” negative, I mean who doesn’t on occasion regret being woke from a peaceful sleep?

    The PROGRESSIVE LEFT is littered with fools, they have a modern day ‘Roland the Farter’ who entertained King Henry II and said ‘one jump, one whistle, and one fart), and then there are those in Congress who may sing along with Sima Xiangru “Then come jesters, musicians and trained dwarfs, and singing girls from the land of Ti-ti, To delight the ear and eye, And bring mirth to the mind.” I only use this song to say the left has so many intellectual dwarfs that are late in seeing the disinfectant sunrise to their insane idea of a Socialist Paradise.

    1. The American Left is one big psychiatric patient. I’m still looking for any signs of sanity or rationality.

      1. Oldmanfromkansas,
        Unfortunately, you will not find any sanity in the radicalized far left.

        That was (and will continue to be) Charlie Kirk’s legacy. The radicals cannot bring a cogent argument to a debate and so they get angry and try to shut down dissent.

        1. No one is even ON DECK! ! !

          Sure, the failing democrat party has hecklers, circus barkers, mentally-patients running amok, criminals rattling their cages, lazy-marxists begging for freebies or stealing them, and hateful atheists, but nothing rational or sane….

  8. I love headlines…

    Vance Says It’s a ‘Statistical Fact’ the Left Commits Most Political Violence. The Actual Stats Show He’s Lying

          1. It’s a headline.

            Here you go…

            According to data from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), right-wing extremists (including white supremacists, anti-government militias, and related groups) are responsible for the majority of terrorist-related deaths in the U.S. over the past few decades.

    1. You wouldn’t know an actual-stat if it was a bear ripping you, limb from limb—you’d probably just say, “what bear? I can still feel my arms.”

    2. ROFL
      When is the last time someone on the right assassinated anyone ?
      When is the last time someone on the right shot up a church full of children praying ?
      When is the last time someone on the right tried to assasinate a president ?
      When is the last time someone on the right shot up a school full of children ?
      When is the last time someone on the right threw rocks, frozen water bottles, molatov cocktails, at law enforcement at a protest ?
      When is the last time someone on the right used lasers to blind law enforcement or fired fireworks at them ?
      When is the last time someone on the right interfered with law enforcement performing an arrest ?

      This is just a FEW of the violent acts of left wing nuts in the past YEAR.
      The list would take pages if I went back a few years or a decade or two decades, or my entire lifetime.

      The left is violent by nature. The extreme far right – such as survivalist militias is only violent when ACTUALY threatened – Wacco, Ruby Ridge, the Bundy’s NONE of which are in the past 30 years.
      I would note the Bundy’s and Weaver won their cases in court. The branch davidians did not get the chance – they were all murdered.

  9. We can only hope that these leftists keep acting the way they are. Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves.

    1. As opposed to more than 1000 right wing A holes that attacked the Capitol Building on Jan 6, 2021 killing a few people, assaulting a few Capitol Police Officers?

      1. The doors were opened for the actual Americans who had come from the eminently constitutional Trump Rally and they were escorted in.

        The hired Deep Deep State FBI agitators and operatives are the individuals you are referring to.

      2. The faux “right wing A-holes” you mention were plants: antifa, Biden-FBI/CIA in Trump drag. Those who were geo-fenced, rounded up, and prosecuted, even two and three years later, experienced much worse violation of rights and free speech than what you now complain of.

        J-6 was a left-wing trap, and the injustices perpetrated against thousands were far more violent, unconstitutional, and politically evil—much worse than losing jobs.

      3. Typical libs… lies is all you got.

        on Jan 6, 2021 killing a few people. Only one person was murder by Capt police officer for no good reason.

        Read some history loser

        1. No good reason?

          I guess, crawling through a broken window into the House chamber while the crowd behind chants “hang Mike Pence”

          Yep, typical right wing toursists.

          1. Dummy. You can’t see how this signature antifa tactic was easy enough for antifa (infiltrator-provocateurs) to chant, placing blame where they wanted it placed? Really? You’re not very good at chess, are you?

      4. There were less than 250 involved in the riot. The 1000 came later after the riot was over and were waved into the capitol building by the police.

        There is also the question of proportionality. The Jan6 riot happened after an entire year of left wing riots which had caused billions of dollars in damage and left dozens of people dead.

      5. Pssst …I don’t know if you saw it or not but the Russia collusion hoax and Hunter Biden’s laptop were real. That in itself was enough to unfairly skew and interfere with a legitimate election. J6 protestors were well within their Constitutional rights to peacefully assemble to show their displeasure with an unfair fraud election. The Pelosi canal decided to shoot them with rubber bullets and pepper spray them thereby inciting a violent riot. They are patriots for what they did for our Nation. Prove me wrong.

        1. Rabble:
          I distinctly ‘member seeing bodycam footage of a “cop” throwing CS at a fellow uniformed officer, then turning said action on the crowd as justification to “counter-attack”

      6. Rabble:
        How does that day match up to any given day during the Summer of Love? An entire set of months of political violence, that had at least 25 confirmed deaths and untold billinos of property damage. How do those rack up?

      7. You people never seem to remember the summers of love(2021-2022), when local democrat mayors and city councils let antifa and their buddies riot for over 100 days. Setting buildings on fire, assaulting people, ransacking police stations and also looting some federal buildings. A few people were killed during this time period. No one was held accountable. And you keep bringing up one day. God help us if the democrats ever got total control of our federal government. I didn’t condone what happened on January 6th, but how does that compare what happened during those two summers.

      8. No one “attacked” The capital building (except a left wing bombing decades ago, and the british two centuries ago).

        Protestors excercised their first amendment rights to protest, assemble, speak, and petition government. They did so AT the seat of Government – the pre-eminent public forum for free speech in the world, which Pelosi had unconstitutionally locked down while congress was in session.

        Violence started when the CP at the west tunnel entrance first Tear Gassed themselves and them teargassed a peaceful crowd, and as the protestors tried to get away from the Tear Gas the CP starting beating them.

        This is all on video that since Dems lost control of congress has been released.
        It is also all exculpatory Brady Material which DOJ was REQUIRED to provide to defendants – but did not. One of the reasons for Trump’s blanket pardon of J6’ers is that the Left Biden DOJ had so thoroughly botched prosecutions and arrests and violated peoples rights in an effort to manufacture an insurection where there was none that it likely was not possible to sort out who a credible case still existed against so tainted were the prosecutions.

        Absolutely AFTER the CP started a riot, a few protestors behaved badly, and in a Fair Trial might have been convicted.

        But no one showed up on the capital grounds with firearms, frozen water bottles, lasers to blind the police or molatov cocktails. All common elements of left win “Peaceful Protests”

        The only people actually killed that day were protestors murdered by the Capitol Police.

        Not a single protestor killed anyone.

      9. “As opposed to more than 1000 right wing A holes that attacked the Capitol Building on Jan 6, 2021 killing a few people, assaulting a few Capitol Police Officers?”

        Lyin’ Like A Proud Biden going to get you some bed cred with your Grindr date? Going to repeat the claims that police were killed that day – when it was an unarmed small woman climbing through a window while SWAT officers watched her was murdered execution style point black range by a racist black police officer twice her size?

        As opposed to several thousand left wing violent Democrat street storm troopers in Antifa and Black Liars & Marxists who launched a two day assault on the White House with Trump in his family in it, several months before J6?

        Ever think that if the Capitol Police in that far more violent riot months earlier had shot the Democrat street thugs down like they deserved (or as the murderer did to Babbitt who was no threat whatsoever), as they were attempting to murder those Capitol Police with Molotov Cocktails… nobody of any political faction would have done any kind of rioting for many months to come?

  10. “Just a reminder Kirk’s organization established the Professor Watchlist, which even the NYT framed as a threat to academic freedom.” – What a joke. –

    But no one raised a finger (or a voice) when “Rate My Professor. Com,”a free student website that down-rated and slandered many good instructors over lame and irresponsible claims like “this professor is “too hard—avoid,” or in defense of high absence and tardiness, of which the worst students were making de facto policy and firings. This was the REAL threat to “academic freedom” in the context of higher education’s expected standards of quality degrees.

    Needless to say, there are few, to no-more, quality degrees; thanks to the DEI policies of new academia, University campuses are now gang-lands producing Mickey-Mouse-Certificates. By the way, a great majority of these so called “scholars now stand up for high honors. – What a joke. –

  11. I guess the MSN is protecting Timmy. No one is talking about these shooting.

    Four mass shootings in three weeks leave Minneapolis on edge as leaders search for solutions

    In the span of 12 hours Monday, 12 people were shot in two separate locations in Minneapolis. The city was already reeling from weeks of violence.

    Could it be, he is trying to get re-elected as Governor.

  12. OT

    “Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Gregory Carro tossed first- and second-degree murder as terrorism charges – the top counts in the state’s case against the 27-year-old Ivy League university grad [Luigi Mangione].”

    – NYP
    ________

    If ever there was an act to terrorize, it was Mangione’s assassination and execution of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson to terrorize the healthcare industry and elected officials into broadening coverage and lowering prices.

    1. This ruling could easily be overturned on appeal, but with Soros-funded soft-on-crime, ideologically-driven prosecutor Bragg, he probably won’t appeal.

      1. HUH? Luigi Mangione still faces federal and state aggravated murder charges. He’s not getting away scot free as he already has in your mind. The terrorism charges are not supported by the facts and that is what the court found. Remember Trump’s DOJ has been overcharging and overreaching. Trump’s DC AG Pirro has been rebuked multiple times by grand juries smarter than her while she tries to impress her boss just how tough…. and incompetent she is. So far she’s doing a bang-up job.

        1. This absurd decision is partial, biased, and political.

          The judge must be impeached and convicted.

          Courts have become irrational, counterproductive, and obsolete.

          Mangione killed this healthcare executive to influence, by terror, healthcare executives, the industry as a whole, elected officials, and Americans.

  13. Professor Turley: you are fighting the good fight in ways that are unimaginable, and I know you pay the price in ways we do not see here. Thank you for this, and thank for all you and your associates do. At the end of the day what we have is each other, and we still believe in kindness, compassion, and fairness for all. This is no small thing in 2025, and that it is so rallied against – keep fighting the good fight. You have many friends on this front, even if it doesn’t seem that way at times. These are small things to giants; you are a giant, as are we all that insist on these principles; every person here arguing for sanity. We will not give up, and this space is a light in the darkness.

  14. Another moron of a lib bites the dust.
    ________________________
    UCLA placed Johnathan Perkins, director of the DEI office’s race and equity division, on leave after he made controversial social media comments celebrating the murder of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk.
    Perkins’ posts included statements like it being acceptable to be happy about Kirk’s death and questioning why he shouldn’t be dead, prompting UCLA to initiate an investigation and remove content from their DEI website.

    Will they ever learn? But can sure see what party is the party of HATE.

  15. WOW stay out of this city…
    Dearborn’s Muslim Mayor Tells Christian He’s ‘Not Welcome’ in the City.

    The left strikes again.

  16. Communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs) are not only un-American and anti-American, but they are also unnatural, irrational, and unconstitutional direct and mortal enemies of the American Thesis of Freedom and Self-Reliance, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, actual Americans, and America.

  17. Jonathan: DJT is meeting with King Charles at Windsor Castle today on his way to visit his golf resorts in Scotland. All indications are that DJT’s visit is not going well. DJT is being greeted by huge protests. One protest sign read “Convicted felons have no business in the UK!”. Another sign depicted DJT’s head with the caption “Is Andy at home?” DJT thought he could escape his Epstein scandal by visiting King Charles. Not happening!

    DJT’s UK visit comes after PM Keir Starmer was forced to fire Peter Mandelson as Ambassador to the US after the publication of the Epstein birthday book that revealed Mandelson wrote a fawning letter to Epstein showing their close relationship. This threatens to bring down the Starmer government because the PM knew or should have known about Mandelson’s close relationship with a convicted pedophile.

    Looks like the Epstein scandal is not going away any time soon, especially after Patel lied to the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday and still refuses to release all the Epstein files to protect his boss. This is what happens when DJT and his underlings engage in a coverup of epic proportions! DJT knows he is in trouble. That why he is getting MAGA controlled states to further gerrymander so DJT can keep control of both the Senate and the House. DJT knows that if the Dems take back control of the House in next year’s elections there will be another massive investigation of DJT’s attempts to coverup his involvement in Epstein’s sexual abuse of minor girls. Is another impeachment of DJT on the horizon?

    1. Still posting the same lies
      Why didn’t Biden release the info the wreck Prez Trump.

      Simple answer.. They had none.

    2. “DJT is meeting with King Charles”
      No one cares about Charles – Charles is NOT Elizabeth.
      No one cares about left wing nut protests.

      “PM Keir Starmer” is also irrelevant. He is in power by a fluke.
      Labor is polling at below 25% – By elections all over the UK have Reform ahead with the Tories behind them – between them they have over 50% of the vote.
      This has been true for over a year. Starmer is on borrowed time.
      Nigel Farage will be the next UK PM. Farage is a close friend of Trump and is the UK’s equivalant
      Reform is the UK equivalent of MAGA and getting stronger.

      The Espstein Scandal is not going away soon. But despite left wing hopes – it does NOT touch Trump.

      Democrats have had 8 years to tie Trump to Epstein.
      Clinton – absolutely
      Gates – yep
      I hear that Gore and Mick Jagger are among Epsteins clients.

      But years and years of digging and no Trump.

      The Epstein files will not be released because the COURTS have ordered that they not be released.
      That would be 2 democrat judges.

      We would all like to see what is in them – though as Derschowitz has said repeatedly – there is no names we do not already no – and No Trump is not in them.

      Epstein was first arrested in 2008. He was later arrested in 2019 by … The Trump administration.
      The Maxwell prosecution began under Trump.

      If there were other prosecutable cases – Biden could have prosecuted them.

      I fully support the victims. But I also support the constitution and the law.
      The victims of Epstein and others are free to bring civil suits
      There are no such lawsuits against Trump.

      It is near certain the GOP will control the Senate in 2026.

      The house is up for grabs. It nearly always changes hands at mid terms.

      If Democrats do gain the house – there will be massive investigations.
      Bring it on.
      If House Democrats wish to waste their time on Epstein related investigations – they are free to do so.
      If Democrats gain control of the house – it is near certain they will impeach Trump.

      No one cares. No one Will care. Please do stupid things.
      I doubt there will even be a trial in the Senate.
      And outside the far left – no one will care.

      Personally I do not beleive that Dems are regaining the house in 2026.
      I think that Democrats are making their brand toxic.
      I do not think that moderate democrats are going to show up to vote.

      Trump’s approval is 50%, the Democrats at just above 20%.

      But 2026 will be whatever it is.

      Trump has racked up 19 straight SCOTUS wins.
      All your lawfare is slowly dying on the vine.
      The BBB passed and as it takes effect – Trump will officially have most of the power you have claimed he does not have.

      1. “ The Epstein files will not be released because the COURTS have ordered that they not be released.
        That would be 2 democrat judges.”

        You are confusing grand jury files with the Estein files held by the DOJ. The real Epstein files will eventually be released. MAGA won’t let it go until they get what they have been clamoring for years.

        John Say, that is alot of talk about uncertain claims.

        “ Trump’s approval is 50%, the Democrats at just above 20%.“

        Turmp’s approval is at 40%. It has been dropping continuously since the Epstein scandal erupted. Plus the diminishing economy is not helping.

        The UK’s labor party is not doing well. But neither is the Conservative party. They have not gained any support or have a better chance to unseat the labor party. It’s a mess. Farage is not going to be the next prime minister. His net favorability rating in September 2025 stands at -31, with 30% of Britons holding a positive opinion and 61% holding a negative opinion.

        Polling data suggests that the public is more likely to have confidence in Reform UK (37%) under Farage’s leadership compared to the Labour Party (32%) or the Conservatives (24%).

        “ But 2026 will be whatever it is.“

        Meaning it’s not looking good for Republicans. The economy is not showing the improvement Trump promised. The Epstein files will still be an issue, and his immigration policies are no longer popular with independents and some Republicans.

        1. X/georgie says, “Trump’s approval is at 40%.”
          You see, georgie, this is why people don not value your and gigi’s comments, or have anything positive to say about your comments. Because they are LIES.

          HERE are the last 12-15 polls taken on Trump’s approval ratings, collected by aggregator Real Clear Politics.
          There is NOT A SINGLE POLL showing him at 40%.
          https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

    3. just to be clear

      I think it is still an open question as to whether Dems will retake the house.

      But should they do so – it will be fun to watch them make fools of themselves.

      Whoever is the GOP presidential candidate in 2028 should be praying that Dems retake the house.
      nothing could help them win election more.

      1. I think it’s an open question as to whether we will make it to the mid-term elections. .. much less 2028.

        The scientist at the Doomsday Clock have it at 87 seconds before midnight.

        *If you can’t impeach Joe Biden .. . who can you impeach?

        1. @dgsnowden

          You know, you are one that I might believe is just a dissenting opinion, rather than a troll; but come on. Read the room, man.

          1. James
            The scientist at the Doomsday Clock have it at 87 seconds before midnight.

            DG has to post nothing. Every-time the GOP takes charge. These fool mess with the clock. But never when a war loving dems take charge

            1. I realize you don’t read and write too good, Dusty .. . but actually, I believe the closest humankind ever came to thermal nuclear war was on Biden’s watch, late last year, shortly before the election.

              When US/Nato operatives in Ukraine launched an attack on Russia’s strategic bombers far from the battlefield. Russia responded with a new hypersonic missile called the Oreshnik, capable of MACH 10+ speed with up to 36 independently targeted nuclear tipped warheads (MIRV). The Russians even gave U.S. Command the launch coordinates and challenged them to shoot it down .. .

              *I’ve never seen anything like it, looked like lightening strikes .. . thankfully, the warheads were inert, but the message was clear.

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