We have seen a rise in both rage rhetoric and political violence. New polling shows a shocking level of support for political violence, even after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. A new poll shows roughly a quarter of voters believe political violence is justified with the highest percentage among younger voters.
The poll shows that 55 percent of Americans expect political violence to increase with the highest percentage among Harris voters at 61 percent.
Younger Americans are the most supportive of political violence. The poll shows that one in three Americans under 45 years old believes that political violence is justified.
This tracks with other polling that shows that roughly thirty percent of both Democrats and Republicans felt that political violence might be necessary.
The rise in support for political violence comes at a time when politicians are increasingly engaging in violent or rage rhetoric.
DNC Chair Ken Martin just told MSNBC’s “The Beat” that “we may be nearing” the moment when “elections don’t matter and then the resistance looks completely different.” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called on people to “forcefully rise up.”
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., who pictures himself brandishing a baseball bat has previously called upon people to “fight in the streets.”
California Governor Gavin Newsom previously declared, “I’m going to punch these sons of bitches in the mouth.”
Virginia Democratic gubernatorial nominee Abigail Spanberger called upon her supporters to “Let your rage fuel you.” She then refused to withdraw her support for the Democratic candidate for Attorney General, Jay Jones, who once expressed his desire to kill his political opponents and his children.
In his podcast with co-host Al Hunt, James Carville was again spewing unhinged hate. He returned to treating Trump and others as Nazis and their supporters as “collaborators.” I previously criticized Carville for that analogy. He later attacked me.
Doubling down, Carville declared
“You know what we do with collaborators? I think these corporations, my fantasy dream is that this nightmare ends in 2029 and I think we ought to have radical things. I think they all ought to have their heads shaven, they should be put in orange pajamas and they should be marched down Pennsylvania Avenue and the public should be invited to spit on them.”
To be sure that his menacing words were not lost, he then added “The universities, the corporations, the law firms, all of these collaborators should be shaved, pajamaed and spit on.”
There was no later pushback by his co-host, Hunt, or anyone else associated with the podcast.
Notably, going into today’s election, Jay Jones was still leading in the polls despite saying that he wanted to kill political opponents and their children. Democratic voters were clearly not deterred by such rage rhetoric.
Yesterday’s election results seem to suggest that the crumbling being experienced at the base of the economic pyramid may be doing more than just changing voting patterns. It may be injecting desperation over ruling elites’ inability to address the issue.
no, the VAST majority did not vote for anyone. No politician earned their vote, they thought it best to stay home. Michele Wu in Boston had a “Landslide” victory winning by 85% over write in candidates, but less than 20% registered Boston voters voted for her. mamdami pulled in less than 20% of the vote. 1 million out of 5 million registered voters. No one, apathy is not fertile for the “revolution”
https://vote.nyc/sites/default/files/pdf/vote/2025/county_feb25_0.xlsx
Pearls to the swine. Look what they’ve done to NYC.
Good point. Despair
“Pelosi said, “He’s [Trump] just a vile creature. The worst thing on the face of the Earth. But anyway.”
It is hard to believe that someone in her position would make such a statement unless she hoped some lunatic would embrace it and try to attack the President.
Civil and intelligent discourse is vanishing.
And to think these are the people who claim speech is violence. They would know what they intend by rabid speech.
Are they never in the presence of sober and decent minds to counsel them? Seems not.
Donald Trump calls Nancy Pelosi a “crazy, horrible human being” while talking to a crowd at Van Andel Arena in Grand Rapids on Tuesday, Nov. 5, 2024. He told the crowd he wanted to call her a word that “starts with a B,” but he would not say it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZh9qumpIqY
The Left relishes threatening violence. They like the way it makes them feel empowered. They like the way it sends a strong signal to their hive that they are in sync with the party narrative.
FLORIDA CHARGES HOMICIDE FOR MURDER OF UNBORN BABY
NOT MY BODY, NOT MY CHOICE
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A Florida man who killed his 18-year-old girlfriend for refusing to abort their unborn son now faces the death penalty for double homicide.
A jury last week found 23-year-old Donovan Faison guilty of the first-degree murder of Kaylin Fiengo and the murder of their unborn child, with 11-1 sentencing him to death.
Six weeks under homicide laws. From conception under human evolution.
Murder of an unborn child? But I thought the abortionist crowd told us it was just a mass of cells and meant nothing. Which is it? An unborn human or a clump of goo?
Going after MAGAs is not political violence any more than the US invading Germany in 1945 was political violence. It is self defense.
You’re right Anonymous. What MAGA is doing is just the same as killing six million jews.
So just equate them with Nazis and you have a right to line them up and shot them all in the back of the head. You are one sick puppy who’s just pissed off because you might not get your SNAP money this month. Any common parasite has a better reputation.
TiT, the pathetic thing is that Anony-moron represents the mainstream of Dems now. They actually are that mentally ill.
“war is politics by other means”
Clausewitz,
Yes going after MAGA i political violence.
Yes invading Nazi Germany is political violence.
The former is unjustified.
The latter is justified – Germany declared War on the US.
No Going after MAGA is not self defense – can you left wing nuts EVER stop the 1984 idiotic newspeak word games
Self-defense when in mortal danger. Planned Personhood, Capitol punishment, a human rite when relieving a “burden” for social, clinical, criminal, political, or climate progress. #HateLovesAbortion
“Going after MAGAs . . .”
Here we have one of the irrational premises behind the Left’s rationalization for initiating physical force. Ideas and speech it doesn’t like is dubbed “violence.” Actual violence it does like is dubbed “speech.”
The Left’s whimsical games with language has two vicious goals: To destroy dissent. To usurp total power.
The anonymous Commie trolls have not yet explained any connection to blood splatter and math problems.
So, according to their logic, if I wear a T-shirt that says, “Kill all Democrats . . . problem solved,” I can claim that I’m a math teacher and so the word “problem” refers to math problems, so it makes total sense. Plus, it was a Halloween T-Shirt that I wore last year too, and it’s available on Amazon, so there.
These people are really that low-IQ. Hard to believe.
Maybe the Commies have been too busy draining you of your precious bodily fluids.
Unfortunately, I think this comment goes way over the impaired OMFK’s head.
OMFK
Did you bother to read what I said below.
TPUSA has retracted the allegation that the T shirts were intended to mock Charlie Kirk or anyone else for that matter.
Andrew Kolvet, of TPUSA, retracted the allegation on his X account and also posted a picture of the same teachers wearing the same T shirts for Halloween in 2024.
It was completely innocent.
Why is there any need to explain a connection between blood splatter and math problems ???
Who cares ???
The teachers obviously saw a connection, and what you think is irrelevant.
The teachers liked the T shirts and that is all that matters.
The fact that you take offense at the teachers choice of costume is completely immaterial.
Who appointed you as apparel police for teachers ???
Why are trying to make this completely innocent event into some bizarre conspiracy theory ???
You are profoundly mentally unstable.
And what exactly is the point of trying to set up a “what if” straw man about “Kill all Democrats”, other than to sink deeper into the morass of your absurd conspiracy theories.
This is a completely pointless, irrelevant, nonsensical comment.
You really are in urgent need of professional mental health care.
So you are admitting you don’t understand reasoning by analogy. Go back and complete third grade, idiot anonymous Commie low-IQ garbage-spewing troll.
He also does not know what a straw man is either.
You do not seem to know the difference between an analogy and a straw man.
To clarify a straw man is when you make an argument attacking a position the other person does not hold while pretending that they do.
Straw men are fraudulent
An analogy is an openly stated comparison. It is often used to make the hypocracy of others obvious.
A typical form of analogy in argument is You say A is OK, but you find B unacceptable, but A and B have no consequential differencs.
Idiot anonymous low-IQ Commie troll: your entire premise was that TPUSA was ridiculous for suggesting there was anything untoward about the T-shirt. Would you find it ridiculous for a Democrat to complain in December 1963 about people wearing T-shirts emblazoned with an image of a man’s head exploding while riding in a convertible in Dallas, with the words “Problem Solved” – and then explaining it away by saying “I’m a math teacher and it’s a Halloween shirt that’s I wore last year”?
If you’re so smart: tell me the connection between blood spatter and solving math problems. Maybe then you will have an argument that TPUSA was silly to see anything untoward in the shirt. You’ve had five hours to do so, and you haven’t yet, so I doubt you ever will. Pffffft.
OMFK
What the hell is wrong with you ???
Why do you persist in setting up absurd “what if” straw men to attack??
Why can’t you stick to the facts and the point ??
The teachers wore the shirts a year before Charlie Kirk’s death.
THERE IS NO CONCEIVABLE CONNECTION.
The fact that Andrew Kolvet and TPUSA took offense merely indicates the insanity of their thinking.
They see connections that don’t exist and have never existed.
The problem lies with the conspiratorial insanity of TPUSA and you, not the teachers, not the T shirts, not the blood spatters.
The teachers are completely innocent and have absolutely nothing to apologize for and nothing to explain.
They are under no obligation to indulge your insanity, Andrew Kolvet’s insanity or TPUSA insanity.
Arguing with idiots sure can be fun 🙂
Your original post was that Turley is cherry picking because conservatives also use threatening violent speech in a ridiculous way. Your proof? Some math teachers wore a T-shirt with blood spatter and “problem solved” in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination, and TPUSA absurdly thought it referred to the cold-blooded assassination of Kirk. Then some unknown commenters of FB said bad thing, although we have no idea if there is any connection between those commenters and TPUSA.
All of that is somehow equivalent to the assassination culture and violent rhetoric on the left, as well as the Left’s actual assassination of Kirk, a healthcare CEO, and multiple assassination attempts on the Republican nominee, not to mention conservative Supreme Court Justices, etc. etc.
That position, first, is stupid. Even if TPUSA did overreact, that is completely different than the violence on the Left. But then I said, even putting that aside, why don’t we examine if TPUSA did in fact overreact. Your proof is that the T-shirt was obviously a Halloween prank because it’s funny to show blood spatter and say “problem solved” when a math teacher wears the shirt, plus, unbeknownst to TPUSA the math teacher wore the same shirt the year before so clearly it wasn’t made in reaction to the Kirk assassination by a left-wing nut.
Then my comments were directed at the premise that the shirt is obviously a Halloween prank, pointing out that there is no connection between the blood spatter and solving math problems. If there was, then you’d have a stronger argument. So I invited you like 1,000 times to explain what the connection is, to see is you did in fact have a stronger argument. You have declined each such invitation, and it is obvious that you cannot come up with any explanation of how a blood spatter is in any logical way connected to solving math problems so as to make it obvious to TPUSA that it was a mere Halloween prank that they should have discerned as such.
I’ll give you credit for one thing: by making stupid ridiculous equivalencies between actual violence/violent rhetoric and one organization’s alleged overreaction to a stupid unobvious Halloween prank, you have derailed the conversation. So kudos to you for that. I guess that’s what the Chinese Communist Party pays you to do, so you’re welcome.
OMFK
This has to be the all-time record for setting up a completely insane straw man to attack.
You are trying to say that I am using the story of TPUSA accusing a bunch of teachers innocently wearing a T shirt as equivalent to some alleged “assassination culture” on the left.
You are insane.
All I am pointing out is the insane conspiratorial thinking of TPUSA, their adherents and you.
This is a completely innocent event. The teachers simply wore a T shirt that they liked.
The fact that YOU take offense is irrelevant. This may be news to you, but this is supposedly a free country where people can say what they want and dress how they please.
I don’t know why the teachers like the shirts. I don’t know why they wore the shirts. I don’t know why they think there is a connection between blood splatter and solving math problems. That is their business entirely. It is absolutely none of my business or your business or anyone else’s business. They are perfectly free to wear the shirts they wore last year, and they don’t have to explain themselves to you, me or anyone else.
They are not under any obligation to explain why they wore the shirts or why they think there is a connection between blood splatter and solving math problems.
I am not under any obligation to explain why they wore the shirts or why they think there is a connection between blood splatter and solving math problems.
IT DOES NOT MATTER.
The ONLY point I am attempting to make is that the absurd conspiratorial thinking of MAGA morons, TPUSA and you leads to these crazy unfounded allegations regarding completely innocent events. You see boogeymen everywhere, under the bed, in the closet, everywhere you look.
Unfortunately, your mental impairment renders you unable to see or understand this point.
ATS
You have been told MULTIPLE times that a straw man requires deliberate deception.
You are past the point of ignorance is deep into defamation.
John Say the Stupid
You have been told MULTIPLE times that you are insane.
You should seek professional help
Omfk, it’s a horrible t-shirt whatever it means. Let’s pretend it’s tomato juice and there’s no connection to math. The alternatives are too horrible.
OMFK – TPUSA was wrong, but they were not absurdly wrong.
They were absolutely, unequivocally, beyond any shadow of doubt, 100% WRONG.
AND THEY ADMITTED IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ATS – STILL not a straw man.
You have been provided th difference between a straw man and an analogy multiple times.
A straw man argument is intentionally deceptive
An analogy is a deliberate comparison
Left wing nuts like yourself should avoid embarrassing references to conspiracy theories.
Again – Alex Jones and Qanon have a far better record for accuracy than you do.
So here we have it.
John Say admits he is a Qanon conspiracist.
This removes any shadow of doubt regarding his sanity.
Anything he says can be immediately dismissed as the product of a severely mentally impaired moron.
*. What about Alex Jones? He honestly thought it was a prank. His fine is a billion dollars? Whether you like Jones or not it was freedom of speech, right? Or is that just sometimes?
What is wrong with you ??
This wasn’t a “prank”.
The teachers weren’t trying to make some point or political statement.
They simply wore the same T shirts that they wore last year. That’s it, nothing more, nothing less.
The problem is that idiots like you deliberately try to distort the facts in order to take some sort of fake offense, and read into it some sort of conspiracy.
You are crazy.
“This wasn’t a “prank”.”
Please reread the comment you were refering to you obviously failed to understand the Alex Jones reference.
“The teachers weren’t trying to make some point or political statement.”
How Dumb are you ?
Of course th teachers were trying to make a point. And they were so bad at it, that they created something trivial to misinterpret
because the point they were making was clear as mud.
“They simply wore the same T shirts that they wore last year. ”
If thy were not trying to make a point – they would have worn plain white Tshirts.
Do you think before you write ?
“The problem is that idiots like you deliberately try to distort the facts”
No one distorted any facts.
The Tshirts themselves have never been in dispute.
The message of the Tshirts is what was disputed.
Given that you have tried and failed to provide any clear meaning to the Tshirts beyond – your absurd double entendre claim and now the idiotic claim that they mean nothing YOUR OWN arguments make it clear why others read them as a reference to Kirk.
You don’t think that these “intelligent” math teachers should’ve paused donning the same tshirts as last year in view of what happened to Charlie Kirk this year? The problem is their blind stupidity. Problem solved. Basic math.
The only people making a connection between the T shirts and Charlie Kirk are MAGA morons who live in an alternate reality where they wallow in perceived victimhood.
They constantly whine about victimization, and see evidence of such victimization in the most trivial and innocuous things.
No sane, rational person would look at the T shirts and make a connection to Charlie Kirk.
The teachers had absolutely no reason to see that connection.
What are you talking about? If you mean to say that Jones honestly thought Sandy Hook was a hoax, that is bulldust. He knew very well that it was real, and if he didn’t know at first he was told over and over again, and the evidence was shown to him, and he knowingly persisted in defaming the parents. Then he lied to the court and concealed his assets. He deserved every dollar of those punitive damages. He’s beneath contempt. The freedom of speech does not cover deliberate defamation.
ATS – no it was not “innocent” – it just does not appear to have been targeting Kirk. Nor does it appear to have been political.
It a incredibly stupid.
It was NOT a double entendre as you claimed before.
It was not humerus.
It also was not any rational math analogy.
Just about every profession in existence solves problems – so any link between problem solving and math is like saying Math teachers use pencils.
But it was perfectly reasonable in the current environment to assume that this was targeting Kirk – especially from teachers who are massively dominated by the far left today.
It is also perfectly reasonable NOT to trust YOU – as you have lied over and over,
Frankly it is a refreshing surprise that you did NOT lie about this – atleast not much.
John Say the Stupid
You say:
“But it was perfectly reasonable in the current environment to assume that this was targeting Kirk”
This is only true if by “the current environment” you mean the the fantasy land and echo chamber of MAGA world that is completely and utterly disconnected from the real world.
In the real world we understand that this was just a bunch of teachers wearing the same Halloween T shirts that they wore last year.
Why they like the shirts, and why they chose to wear them, and why they think they are relevant to math is entirely their business. As you incessantly say, this is a free country where people can say what they like and wear what they please. Neither they, nor I am under any obligation to explain why they wore the shirts.
If you want to read into it that there was some vast conspiracy to mock Charlie Kirk, then that is your problem and your problem alone, created by your obvious mental impairment.
The fact that you take completely fake offense at this episode simply speaks to your profound inability to understand reality.
“Why is there any need to explain a connection between blood splatter and math problems ???”
No there is not – anyone is free to engage in incredibly stupid expression. No explanation required.
But when you express yourself stupidly you should not be surprised when otehrs provide an explanation that is not what you intended.
“Who cares ???”
Lot of people cared
“The teachers obviously saw a connection”
And they are obviously morons
“and what you think is irrelevant.”
When you engage in expression that makes no sense – you shoudl expect that others will find a way to make it make sense.
“The teachers liked the T shirts and that is all that matters.”
What kind of an idiot are you ?
First we do not know what the teachers “liked” – that is more left wing nut mind reading.
Nor is it all that matters.
The TShirts were message. A muddled and hopelessly unclear message that was inviting applying a more clear interpretation.
The claim that the teachrs liked the Tshirt is OBVIOUSLY not all that matters.
You would not be saying that if the Tshirt referenced the Nword.
“The fact that you take offense at the teachers choice of costume is completely immaterial.”
No it is not. Again YOU would be up in arms if the Tshirts contained th Nword.
Teachers are free to make their own choices – including Tshirts with the Nword.
They are not free to compel others to accept their interpretation.
“Who appointed you as apparel police for teachers ???”
You did when you claimed the right to critize the expresson of others.
“Why are trying to make this completely innocent event into some bizarre conspiracy theory ???”
Innocent – maybe – stupid – Obviously – BTW that is the correct use of the word obviously as opposed to your use above where it was clearly NOT obvious.
“You are profoundly mentally unstable.”
The evidence is that conservatives are happier and have less mental health problems than those on the left.
20 year olds have double the rates of anxiety and depression of 60 year olds.
those on the left have double the rates of those on the right.
Young White left women have rates of anxiety and depression higher than 3 in 4.
ATS
Because you are too lazy too – I did research this further – “Problem Solved” is a meme that has been arround since atleast 2000.
Starting in 2003 it has nearly always taken on a sarcastic meaning – that is probably what you were trying to say when you said it was a double entendre.
That is actually BAD NEWS for you and for the Math Teachers.
“Problem Solved” as a meme – such as on a Tshirt is pretty much always intended as derogatory and sarcastic.
While it may make an appearance at Halloween – that does NOT change the intentionally sarcastic intent.
In the specific instance of the Bloody Problem solved meme on these Ts is means sarcastically murdering something in a grusome way to “solve a problem”.
There is no connection between this meme and math and a weak sometimes not sarcastic – but usually sarcastic connection to computer science – a variant on PEBKAC Problem exists Between Keyboard And Chair.
While the bloody TShirt variant does not inherently refer to Charlie Kirk – as you note it predates his assassination.
IT is a sarcastic refrence to solving problems by grusome murder.
You say the teachers wore this in 2024 – that would be shortly after the Trump assassination attempt.
It appears this was not intentionally political – though even that is not established with 100% certainty.
That does not alter the fact that it – and your efforts to defend it were incredibly stupid.
Learning more about the “Problem solved” bloody Tshirt meme does NOT make the the teachers choice any smarter.
I would further note – that it also makes it clear – there is no connection between this and math.
You have claimed this was a double entendre – it was not.
You have claimed it had some connection to math – it does not.
You have claimed it means nothing – it obviously does.
YOU. ARE. CERTIFIABLY. INSANE.
Anyone who would got to this length, and spend so much time scouring the internet to try to find some absurd justification for your totally irrational point is CERTIFIABLY INSANE.
Do you really think that the teachers were aware of this use of the phrase in 2000 ??
Do you really think they spent hours researching this matter before they bought the shirts ??
Do you really think that any sane, rational person would make a connection between Charlie Kirk and this phrase ??
THERE IS NO CONNECTION WITH CHARLIE KIRK !!!
The only people making this connection are people who live in the alternate reality of MAGA World.
The teachers simply bought T shirts that they thought had some connection to math.
The fact that you disagree, and think there was some ulterior motive simply illustrates your complete insanity.
Neither the teachers, or I, are obligated to participate in your insanity.
Any attempt to engage with your insane ramblings is completely pointless.
You are so deep into conspiracy theories that you have completely lost your mind.
It is no wonder that you are also a Qanon conspiracist.
YOU. ARE. CERTIFIABLY. INSANE.
So, according to their logic, if I wear a T-shirt that…..
Wearing the proper t-shirt can open up a host of career opportunities! Just ask these Hooters girls.
¡Aye caramba!
🔥🎉
To those lunatics, oldmanfromkansas, John Say, Upstatefarmer, Dustoff, who worked themselves into frenzy trying to prove that the math teachers in Arizona were mocking Charlie Kirk’s death with their T shirts.
TPUSA has retracted the allegation.
Andrew Kolvet, a spokesperson for Turning Point USA, has addressed his earlier post on X regarding Halloween costumes worn by math teachers in the Vail School District.
In a post on X, Kolvet initially implied that the costumes were mocking the death of Charlie Kirk. However, he has since updated his thread following the district’s denial of any such connection.
The district clarified that these shirts were also worn last year and are not linked to Charlie Kirk’s death or any political statement.
Kolvet posted the following on X:
“Vail Schools said these math teachers wore the same costume last year. I was waiting for confirmation, and it appears they did. I am updating the thread with the image. We’ve seen enough evil since Charlie’s murder that I’d actually be relieved if this isn’t another example,”
This post by Kolvet shows an image of the same teachers wearing the same T shirts on October 31, 2024.
https://x.com/AndrewKolvet/status/1984763035530248291
A normal response after a young man was shot and murdered would have been for the math teachers to have offered a remorseful apology to tpusa and to have assured them it was not their intention to be cruel.
But then you people aren’t really normal are you. Atrophied amygdala most likely or shot through with holes by all the drugs rather like Swiss cheese?
You are obviously completely out of your mind.
What do they have to apologize for ??
There was ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION between their costumes and Charlie Kirk.
The only problem here is that mentally unstable people like you see hidden meanings and connections between completely unrelated events.
You then demand apologies from completely innocent people who simply do not share your absurd conclusions.
Why should the teachers indulge your insane conspiracy theories by apologizing for doing absolutely nothing wrong ???
Just because you find offense in something completely innocent does not obligate the teachers to participate in your insanity, and soothe your fake hurt feelings.
You are profoundly mentally impaired.
. I have a box of rocks with a higher than you enjoy. 😂
Ok. Omfk is right. Analogies- work on them
Higher IQ.^^^^
Say anon, when you accidentally bump into someone in a crowded room I’ll bet you push them a second time instead of saying pardon.
YOu OBVIOUSLY need a refresher course in the english langauge.
You clearly do not know what obviously means.
You do not know what a straw man is.
you do not know what a double entendre is.
and you seem to think that accusing everyone who disagrees with you of mental health issues is a valid argument.
More left wing nut Mind reading – you are horrible at it.
Everything all the people you have attacked have said was perfectly reasonable.
While it is generally accepted at this point that the TShirts are not a reference to Kirk.
The confusion is the FAULT of the teachers.
Which is self evident from your multiple failed attempts to provide the teachers intended message.
It is OBVIOUS they intended a message – otherwie they would have worn plain white Ts.
It is also obvious that YOU are unable to provide a clear message.
Your double entendre claim was a stupid dud.
There is no special link between either blood or problem solving and math.
When you can not communicate clearly – you bear the responsibility if others misinterpret what you are saying.
TPUSA was wrong – but understandably so.
OMFK and I were also wrong ABOUT the meaning of the Tshirt – but understandably so.
YOU were also WRONG about the meaning of the Tshirt and STILL have not corrected that.
It is not a double entendre and it OBVIOUSLY does not mean nothing.
The FACT that you still can not say what it does means all by itself justifies the error that others have made.
You are certifiably insane.
Why are you persisting with this insane diatribe trying to make a case that the teachers were trying to make a point about Charlie Kirk.
You admit you were wrong, but you persist in trying to make some sort of case out of whole cloth.
There is nothing here beyond teachers wearing the same T shirts that they wore last year.
All your ranting and raving that the conclusion about Kirk was perfectly reasonable, while simultaneously admitting you were wrong, is profoundly abnormal thinking.
Your claim that they should have worn plain white T shirts if they were not trying to make a point is insanely absurd.
It was Halloween !!!
They simply wore the same T shirts they wore for Halloween 2024.
In what world is a plain white T shirt a Halloween costume.
YOU. ARE. INSANE.
Hey moron, I have never commented on this T shirt thing and was not aware of it until just now.
Man are you stupid.
World War 2 was political violence.
Consider: those, approving of political violence, are also anti-democracy, since democracy exists only when two or more *opposing* ideas are on the ballot. And therefore, those who would physically attack the other point of view, aren’t really Americans, they’re authoritarians in support of The Single Point of View political stance of all tyrannies. The poll should rightly conclude that 25% of those, living in America, aren’t really Americans.
I grew up in 1950’s in the northern Shenandoah Valley, Martinsburg, WV. Growing up, every day one could see historical reminders of the “Great War.” My great grandfather (a German immigrant) fought for the Union, so its legacy has particular personal importance. Harper’s Ferry, Antietam, G’Burg. and my own hometown’s battle sites were easy and frequent destinations for our youth and scout groups. We should not be clowning around with cheap talk of civil violence and ideological hatred. This is serious stuff and not worth playing with. Somedays it feels that we are floating in the outer rim of a deadly tightening spiral. Say that I am wrong, please. Bill Hill
When did it become so impossible to have a rational, spirited discussion with opponents? It became impossible when the Left knew it could commit violence and even murder. These are fascist tactics. To the Left: Please look in the mirror–the fascists are not on the right.
When did it become so impossible to have a rational, spirited discussion with opponents?
When the Left opted to worship government as their all-powerful God. They are like Islamic fundamentalists, any objection to government power is treated as an insult to their religion which justifies extreme violence.
The right is about religious liberty.
Yet, the right is not in favor of violence by religious fanatics.
It is possible to find common ground over sandwich condiment puns.
Good point.
Would assassinating Hitler have been justified?
The thing you got to know is, everything is show biz
At what time ?
The trial of the Subway Sandwich Bandit is proving to be quite entertaining.
The officer who was the victim of this deadly attack testified :
“that he could feel the impact of the sandwich through his ballistic vest, and it “exploded all over my uniform.” He says he could “smell the onions and the mustard.”
The defense has been referring to him as a “well-seasoned officer”, but I’m sure no pun was intended.
The defense played video of the incident showing that the sandwich remained in its paper wrap at all times.
The paper, the defense points out, is still on. “You don’t see there’s mustard on it?” “You can’t tell there’s ketchup on it?” Mayonnaise? Lettuce? Tomato? “In fact, that sandwich hasn’t exploded at all?” Witness says the sandwich “looks bent and out of shape.”
The officer testified in response that there was onion hanging from his radio antenna.
You really can’t make this stuff up.
This is basically a pre-written SNL script.
Under the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines, use of yellow mustard would require a 7-level sentence enhancement, Dijon would be10 level enhancement, and spicy brown 12.
Lettuce entertain you.
The defense has a lot of ketching up to do.
The defendant has put himself in a pickle.
Then he mustard his strength and fought back.
That was pretty good.
ATS
No this is not a SNL skit.
Throwing a sandwich at a police officer is a crime.
What the officers could smell is not relevant nor is the idiotic argument that the sandwih remained in its wrapper.
That does not alter the smell, and it does not alter the fact that it was assault.
In my community two kids were convicted of assault for dropping a hard boiled egg onto the window of police cruzier.
People have been convicted use of a deadly weapon for hitting others with a bedroom slipper.
I do not agree with these – but that is the law as we have it.
If you do not like that – join me to change it.
The singular American failure is the judicial branch, with emphasis on the Supreme Court. The judicial branch has allowed the “poor” to believe they should be allowed to vote and that government exists to provide them whatever they want. The Founders gave Americans the one thing worth having: Freedom. That freedom allows individuals to be self-reliant and to enjoy the rights, freedoms, privileges, and immunities in the Constitution.
Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto 59 years after the adoption of the Constitution because none of the principles of the Communist Manifesto were in the Constitution. Had the principles of the Communist Manifesto been in the Constitution, Karl Marx would have had no reason to write the Communist Manifesto. The principles of the Communist Manifesto were not in the Constitution then, and the principles of the Communist Manifesto are not in the Constitution now.
The entire communist American welfare state is unconstitutional and must have been struck down at every step of its incremental implementation.
People must adapt to freedom. Freedom does not adapt to people; dictatorship does.
Some timely Mamdani headlines courtesy of the Bee:
– Mamdani announces plan to blame racism after his policies fail
– Mamdani promises rent-free gulags
– Mamdani promises to build wall separating East New York from West New York
– Mamdani clarifies he is not a Communist, he just wants to seize the means of production and put all capitalists in gulags
– Mamdani vows to knock down World Trade Center to build more affordable housing
– To honor October 7th, Mamdani paraglides into campaign event
– Al-Qaeda activating sleeper cells to get out the vote for Mamdani
– ‘Help, I need a spotter!’ cries Mamdani struggling under 5-pound yoga dumbbells
– Seven changes Mamdani is proposing for NYC: (a) Times Square will be renamed Red Square; (b) Creating special ‘camps’ where the city’s Jewish population can be ‘concentrated’; (c) Authorizing the development of state-run shoplifting centers; (d) The subway will be free for everyone; (e) Yankees uniforms will now be rainbow striped; (f) The minimum wage will be raised to $150,000/year; (g) Queens will be repopulated with Palestinian refugees
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He’s not going to do anything. He’ll have a committee of people working Holder, James, Obama, Rice, every other robber hater he can muster behind the scene.
Federal reserve should be moved. Musk did not complete the DOGE work and the lime cave is still there as is Fortran.
A true disaster.
“Musk did not complete the DOGE work and the lime cave is still there as is Fortran. ”
You certain it isn’t COBOL?
Is this coming from a place of hate? Hypocrisy.
Are you really so stupid that you can’t distinguish between satire and threats of violence? Wow.
Satire can still be hateful.
Making fun of stupidity or wickedness is a way of highlighting the truth. To the wicked or stupid it may feel hateful but that’s their choice.
There are those who do these things, but he is not one of them.
An hare an be good or bad.
Is this coming from a place of hate, anon? If you believe it’s possible for God to hate you, it is.
You’re in a big multistoried building. People white lab coats are racing around with carts, stethoscopes, and others are in beds hooked to machines. Where are you?
You’re in a world where men marry men, children are mutilated, raped, sold and kidnapped. Young women are raped and strangled to death. People run over people with cars, shoot them, beat them to death. Hunger, homelessness is the rule. People use sidewalks as bathrooms. Hordes are dying from street drugs. Chaos reigns. Where are you?
Yes, it appears God does hate.
Did God tell you this?
^^^ Then it’s time for you to either keep what is right or to fall victim and join the hated and haters without any consolation, reward of any kind, hopeless and forsaken by God.
I’m confident that the people advocating political violence do next expect to be on the receiving end of it.
What’s the difference between ‘political violence’ and regular violence?
*Imo, people advocating for violence, the aggressors, rarely expect to be on the receiving end of it.
The Biden crime family is not finished.
You mean the Trump Crime Family is not finished. However, the Presidency is their last hurrah on the way to incarceration.
Rabble:
Care to say, per the Constitution, what impeachable offenses the current president has committed?
Let’s hope this is a really depressing night for magat treasonists and seditionists in VA and NJ.
Given that there are no such people that would be hard to accomplish.
Tonight we have major elections in two blue states that Trump lost in 2024 by 6pts.
Anything short of a 7pt victory by ALL democrats is a bad sign for D’s.
I do not think there is a single race that is not closer than 7pts right now.
If the results match current polls – Dems will sweep the major races tonight.
But the results will place them BEHIND where they were in 2024 suggesting that they are in trouble in 2026 and certainly in 2028.
Virginia has a Republican governor and magats writ large are treasonists and seditionists as they support someone who tried to overthrow the governmant, Johnny Say.
That only happened in your hate and rage fevered mind. The rest of us sane and normal people know the difference between delusion and reality. As the good professor has pointed out recently,
“The key to hate is to decouple it entirely from reason and reality. Only then can you hate completely without restraint or regret.”
Trump never attempted to overthrow the government. He called on his supporters to march down to the Capitol building and to peacefully protest.
*. The dept of labor put in a request for H2A visas. After 20 million entries the US still needs farm laborers? It was given by the dept of immigration and the visa holders can bring their spouses and children with them.
So much for DJT.
*. Hatred is a vice. It’s addictive like drugs. The brain chemicals produced and the trait for hatred are ill fated.
^^^^ these people have never seen the US. Are u in China?
Tired old democrat lies ……. it’s that simple.
No joke. The dept of immigration is issuing H2A visas again after the dept of labor requested them. It’s an unending steady stream. Give it up. 20 million and no farm labor to be found.
It’s like that t-shirt isn’t it
President Obama tried to overthro the Govenrment in early January 2017.
Assorted Antifa in portland and elsewhere tried to verthrow the government over the past couple of years.
The only efforts to overthrow the government recently have been from the left.
JS, good points all around. But I think Ciattarelli has a chance.
As I sit in NJ, I hope you are right. Polls are close, to me it will depend on the turnout by both sides. There has been a lot of promotions by those who favor Ciattarelli to get early and voting day voters out to cast their ballots. Hopefully that will make the difference. In regard to the NJ Assembly, that is pretty much a lost cause, as it has been for every election I remember.
“our leftist friends are desperate to hang on to their hate and rage and delusions”
They would do well to accept their defeat at the polls, then regroup politically. If they are not willing to do that, and insist on violence, the distribution of firearms in this country strongly suggests that they will incur far greater losses that way. At the individual level, those will also be permanent.
*. HUGE cocaine bust in Massachusetts all the way to the governor’s office. The left just doesn’t want the right’s interference in the drug business.
They got the maps and the millions in pay offs. I mean huge. Booker just wants to keep it flowing in his state.
Congrats LEOS.
ATS our founders wisely defined Treason in the constitution – specifically to Thwart exactly the kind of stupidity that you are shilling.
Absolutely several Republcans here and elsewhere are also accusing many democrats of treason and sedition.
They too are wrong and part of the problem not the solution.
That said historically – throughout the world – it is the left that on gaining power starts executing political rivals and just ordinary people who are not sufficiently enthusiastic about the party line. Political show trials have always been a feature of the left – atleast when they bothered to have trials at all.
Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Alinda, Noreiga, Pol Pot – a long list of left wing nuts who dealt with political opposition by executing them.
There are a long list of left wing nuts who are being and hopefully will be prosecuted for the REAL crimes they commited.
As well as a far longer list of left wing nuts who will not be prosecuted – because as vile and immoral as their ideology is, they have not yet committed an actual crime – atleast one that we are aware of.
And that is exactly how it should work.
You got yourselves in trouble by going after Trump for things he either did not do or were not crimes.
Trump is repaying some of those who did that by prosecuting them for crimes they DID commit.
Many of them will likely get off as a result of jury nullification of left wing nut judges.
But that does not matter that much – they will also be judged – as you too are being judged, but a jury of their peers – that would be the people of the US. And those results do not look good.
Regardless no one is getting prosecuted for treason or sedition or insurection – because no one has committed those crimes.
John Say,
Great comment. And factually accurate. As the second Trump WH admin succeeds in less than a year, our leftist friends are desperate to hang on to their hate and rage and delusions.
How marvelous!
In the country that our founders created to get your own way politically – to impliment your prefered policies, you must:
Win elections – and not just executive elections, you must win enough legislative seats to get what you want enacted as law,
then you must get a president that will enforce that law – the oath of office requires all presidents to to that, but those on the left in particular tend to ignore the law when they do not like it.
But even that is not sufficient – not only must you get people elected, pass laws through the legislature, get a cheif executive that will enforce them.
But you also must pass laws that the courts find lawful and constitutional.
Those are the requirements to be able to weild public power – FORCE against the people of the country to impliment your prefered policies.
That is how this country was designed.
It is also the only thing close to a moral way to use force to restrict the rights of those that disagree with you.
ALL law infringes by force on the freedom of some people.
If that law requires money – it requires taking that money from people who earned it.
If the law imposes restrictions on conduct – that infringes on the liberty of people to engage in that conduct.
Everytihing govenrment does is the use of FORCE to infringe on peoples freedom.
That is why we have made exercising the power of government so difficult in this country.
And it is exactly those limitations that those of you on the left rail about.