We have been discussing the deepening scandal over former Special Counsel Jack Smith securing the phone records of members of Congress, including former Speaker of the House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy. Now, Fox News is reporting that the Justice Department subpoenaed the personal phone records of House Judiciary Committee chairman Jim Jordan in 2022 for a two-year period. The report may be the most serious disclosure in the controversy, given the direct oversight exercised by Jordan’s committee over Smith and the Justice Department.
Jordan has long been one of the most dogged investigators of abuse at the Justice Department and an outspoken critic of Smith.
The subpoena ordered Verizon to hand over the phone data reaching back to Jan. 1, 2020. Notably, Smith did not begin work as special counsel for another seven months after the subpoena was issued. However, the prosecutor would later work with Smith on the investigation.
The subpoena appears part of the Arctic Frost probe, which swept up the records of top Republican members in a move that many of us have criticized as an unwarranted and dangerous intrusion into the communications of the legislative branch.
Despite the efforts of members like Rep. Dan Goldman (D, NY) to downplay the gravity of such demands, they represent a serious intrusion into the confidentiality of legislators’ communications, including the potential disclosure of journalists, whistleblowers, and others. The records show who Jordan communicated with and when those calls were made. Since this was a personal number, it could also reveal embarrassing information on a member who has directed oversight functions over the Justice Department.
Other members have shown the institutional integrity and identification that others, such as Goldman, lack. Both Republican and Democratic members raised alarm over the disclosures.
Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) stated, “On the surface of it, it would strike me as a significant invasion of the right of Senators to conduct their jobs, so this is something that needs urgent follow-up.”
The subpoena sought records for multiple phone numbers and included a one-year gag order signed by a D.C. magistrate judge.
As someone who has worked closely with Congress for decades and represented the House in court, I regularly receive calls from both Democratic and Republican members. I keep these calls strictly confidential, and I am sure these members believe that they are not subject to such searches. Smith and the Justice Department shattered that belief.
The demand for these records shows a reckless disregard for long-standing rules of engagement between the branches. It shows a sense of dangerous impunity at the Justice Department that should be thoroughly and aggressively investigated by Congress.
Dems used to sing, “All we are saying, is give peace a chance.”
Now that Trump is on the verge of making peace, they’re literally singing, “All we are saying, is give war a chance.”
Jim Jordan is a Trump enabler. Trump even awarded Jordan the Medal of Freedom for being a loyal brown noser.
And today we learn that Trump expects Zelensky to surrender to Putin, by Thanksgiving, or Trump will cut off intelligence essential to Ukraine. This was planned months ago, back in Alaska.
Since that meeting Trump has pretended to be ‘disappointed’ in Putin and even hinted at giving Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine. It was all a sick charade! Trump has always intended to surrender Ukraine. And now he’s made it official.
These developments confirm that Trump has always been a stooge for Putin. The so-called ‘Russia hoax’ was never a hoax. The hoax was calling it a hoax.
Anyone say BRAINWASHED?
^ Military-industrial complex paid troll. Ignore. ^
Ronald Reagan would turn over in his grave if he knew the current U.S. president wants to bring Russia back as a superpower. Like we really want a world crisis every 2 years as Russia keeps asserting itself..??
And selling out Ukraine signals to China, ‘It’s okay to grab Taiwan’. What a stupid message!! And who, exactly, is going to support the United States in the wake of such treachery? Putin will be our only ‘friend’. Though by then Trump will be more senile than Biden ever was.
ANON is more SENILE than Biden IS!!
Yeah, you’re right, troll. Millions more dead in Ukraine, and risking nuclear Armageddon, is the answer. Pffffft.
ATS read the agreement.
While not an outright defeat for Russia, this agreement is far from the terms Russia wanted .
Russia is not coming back as a superpower, and China is not invading Taiwan.
As to repeating this every two years – the agreement prohibits Russia from attacking Ukraine, NATO or any of the rest of Europe forever.
But even without any agreement – Russia is not going to be able to attack anyone again for several decades.
You are right John and this give Ukraine time to rebuild.
It gives Russia more time to reinforce the front lines. With 10X the population Russia has more resources to do so over Ukraine. What limits them now is that Ukraine keeps destroying their logistics pipeline, but with a cease-fire those pipelines will be resumed and built full strength.
Russia is able to attack Ukraine now without waiting several decades.
Putin gets to keep all the land that he stole and there is less land to take the next time around against a country that is less able to defend itself.
As long as Russia has nuclear weapons in vast numbers it gets to be a super power.
The previous agreement was to prohibit Russia from attacking Ukraine. That didn’t stop Putin from attacking Ukraine. More than that, Russia could pressure Belarus to attack Ukraine, keeping the agreement and destroying Ukraine with weapons that Russia supplies and troops that Russia supplies.
What Russia needs now is a short break with the troops and the lines exactly where they are and this suggested agreement does that. It gives time for Russia to regroup, rebuild armaments, ease off on power station attacks that aren’t popular during the winter, and generally get ready for a resumption in the spring or summer of next year to wipe out Ukraine completely.
Anonymous: at 4:32 PM
They no longer use those terms. The correct address would be:
^ National Security Corporate Complex paid troll. Ignore. ^
or
^ National Security Establishment paid troll. Ignore. ^
Read the proposed agreement before spraying nonsense.
Rabble:
Presidential awards are like the Grammys. it’s all incestuous, no matter who holds the gold.
You had no problem with Obama giving Biden the MoF for merely existing, did you? Or the Nobull Peace Prize for Obama merely being black?
More: While Trump was secretly plotting with Putin’s negotiator to carve up Ukraine, Zelinisky was plotting with Erdogan (Turkey) to take back Crimea in cooperation with Poland, Romania, Finland, UK, France, Italy.
Trump is positioning the U.S. as an unreliable ally led by a self-deluding, overconfident, amoral, incompetent dimwit. We can still finesse this debacle but only by intense pressure on Congressional Repubs to stand up for Ukrainian sovereignty and freedom and the system of international law and borders. China is watching Trump dither — the opposite of “peace through strength”. It’s capitulation — “peace” as a euphemism for surrender.
YOU know the “plan” Phinca? Trying to get peace after over 1 million deaths is bad?? HUH? If BYEDUNG hadn’t been so LAME we would’nt be in this position!!
The 1 million deaths were solely at the discretion of Putin.
Trump is trying to give 20% of Ukraine to Putin as a reward for getting them killed.
wait. wait. SO according to you, Zelinsky is doing the same thing that Trump is doing, but only Trump is the self-deluding, overconfident, amoral, incompetent dimwit?. Playing chess is clearly above your ability, pbinca.
pbinca tried to hide behind More: While Trump was secretly plotting with Putin’s negotiator to carve up Ukraine
Same pbinca who demands that young Americans be deprived of their Second Amendment rights. Same pbinca who howls in outrage when told The Big 2020 Election Lie was Democrats like her claiming it was the most transparent election ever – while the Democrats had their unindicted felon, Marc Elias, successfully plotting with unelected bureaucrats, judges, etc to unconstitutionally change election laws in all the swing states in order to steal that election.
pbinca dithers between attempting to play as a normal American – or just letting her full throated Marxist police state fascism show in all its glory.
ROFL
If your claim was correct – Zelensky will not agree to this plan.
With respect to your claim – Only Ukraine has a land border with Crimea.
Turkey has a formidable army – but no land border with Russia.
While Ukraine has done an excellent job of bottling the Russian Black Sea fleet in the east side of the Black Sea, they have also proved that NO NAVY can operate safely in the black sea. There is no means to take back Crimea except through Ukrainian Territory.
Turkey can supply weapons and aircraft. There is no need for a land border. The main task is to drop the Crimean bridge and cut off supplies to Crimea.
They can literally starve everyone in Crimea to death if that bridge is destroyed.
Sorry, but fools like yourself want WWIII. Tell us how that would be a good idea.
I served in Nam. I have seem my fair share of death.
The real STOOGE is the writer of the Trump bashing post!! TDS has no cure!!
The prospect of Trump bringing peace to eastern Europe scares the crap out of TDS sufferers. They hate Trump so much they’d rather millions more be killed in the meat grinder on the eastern front than Trump look good. They’re mentally diseased.
Trump wants ‘peace’ for Eastern Europe.. ? No country in Eastern Europe would be safe with a newly emboldened Russia. The Baltics would be next and Poland after that.
. . . newly emboldened Russia . . .
Does it give you a thrill to use hackneyed phrases like that? You really think Russia is a threat to Nato? You’re delusional. Russia is a dying country, and its relationship with Ukraine is unique. Read the history of those two countries sometime. Kiev even used to be the capital of Russia a long time ago. Can you say that about any other European capital?
You’re a scared little child. And on top of that, you’re willing to let your irrational fears make you support millions more violent deaths in a war that has already claimed way too many lives, not to mention risking a nuclear war.
Yeah, ‘Ukraine has inflicted a million Russian casualties because they feel such a strong bond to ‘the motherland’. Sounds like you’re reading Putin’s history.
Sounds more like you’re a moron with reading comprehension problems. I was talking about Russia’s perspective, and why its actions and motivations toward Ukraine don’t transfer to other countries besides Ukraine.
At this point you’re just sea lioning so I won’t be responding further.
Russia doesn’t have a perspective. It’s only Putin and a grab for power before he dies. He is sending millions of Russians to die.
Russia has been severly bloodied by this War. They are not invading anyone for the next 2 decades.
Right now it is Russias Kalingrad that is in danger of falling – not the Baltics. Further If Russia had this much trouble with Ukraine Poland would whip their ass – Poland is a much more formidable military power than Ukraine.
Regardless Poland is a NATO member and attacking Poland would result in all NATO attacking Russia – again If Russia had this much trouble with Ukraine ho long do you think they would last against NATO ?
Separately this plan includes a NATO style security guarantee for Ukraine as well as the rest of eastern europe.
Future aggression by Russia will be met by all of NATO.
So far, Russia is not pulling back from this fight. NATO will not intervene. Russia has managed to dump the societal undesirables into the meat grinder. Putin already controls Belarus; no need to invade there. He’s hoping that the civilians in the West will grow weary if he succeeds in Ukraine and will let him roll on to the edge of Poland.
There is no agreement from NATO, an agreement which requires a 100% vote for it. Trump cannot promise what other nations will do.
Putin is playing the long game and will build an army right on the border of Poland with the intent of an actual blitzkrieg. He won’t make the mistake of believing his military is ready – he will ensure that the ranks are cleared of the liars who stole body armor and replaced it with cardboard, for example.
There are only 37 Million in Poland and 143 Million in Russia. Russia could send 100 Million against Poland and be left with more people than currently live in Poland. With the promise of everything they can steal, raising an army to attack Poland isn’t going to be that hard. Against a near suicidal force conventional arms are ineffective.
Pure BS. Putin’s army is shattered. The Baltic’s and Poland can arm up to let Putin know, he would not dare try it.
Something all of Europe should have done sine WWII.
Instead they had the USA take care of them.
That shattered Russian army is still advancing in Ukraine because, as shattered as they are, they will be shot if they turn back. They haven’t stopped and certainly haven’t turned.
The only way for Europe to stop them is the same way Ukraine is – slaughtering them en masse. There was no other “taking care of it” that would not get a threat of nuclear annihilation from Putin, which he did.
If you feel like tossing off that threat, then a couple of nukes -Moscow and Saint Petersburg – would do the job and be done tomorrow. But then maybe there is retaliation.
TVS (Trump Vindication Syndrome) has no cure, either.
Jim Jordan is a Trump enabler. This Anonymous President-Daddy Daughter Inappropriate White House Incest Showers enabler is dropping its Tranny Furry guts because Jim Jordan know knows about the just retired Oval Office House Plant’s felonies that deprived him and 430 others of their civil rights by color of law.
Here is the entirety of the Trump 28 point peace plan.
Like all peace agreements that are not the result of one sides defeat – no one is going to be happy with it.
Russia gets to keep alot of territory. But it is conceding pretty much every single other demand it has ever made in order to end this.
Ukraine can not join NATO 0- but without membership Ukraine gets the same security guarantee that all NATO members get.
That is a huge win for Ukraine and a slap in the face to Russia.
https://www.axios.com/2025/11/20/trump-ukraine-peace-plan-28-points-russia
It depends on Putin honoring the agreement. It has already violated a previous agreement that was very similar. There is no reason to believe Putin will honor this one.
NATO hasn’t promised anything so Ukraine gets no NATO guarantee. If that was a guarantee, NATO could intervene tomorrow and there would be no need to concede anything.
You fool. Ukraine is a non-winner. Unless fools like you wish to join the them.
He has run out of troops to fight.
This is no different then the Korean issue. Yes there will be two parts. But that is much better then total control by Putin.
Merrick Garland’s real job at DOJ was to protect the Bidens at all costs and he made sure that everyone knew that Little Jack Smith was protected and could do anything he wanted.
Darren: you silently watch and occasionally post here. Professor Turley has made good money entertaining us by writing about the malfeasance of Obama and now Biden lawyers and judges related to first the Obama FBI Crossfire Hurricane and now the latest, Biden’s FBI Arctic Frost. Ask Professor Turley why he feels he has immunity from complying with his bar association rules that require him to report the criminality, malfeasance and negligence of his fellow members of the Washington DC Bar Association when he is so closely following and writing about their various forms of conduct.
dcbar.org/For-Lawyers/Legal-Ethics/Rules-of-Professional-Conduct/Maintaining-the-Integrity-of-the-Profession/Reporting-Professional-Misconduct
Washington DC Bar Association Rules of Professional Conduct
Rule 8.3: Reporting Professional Misconduct
(a) A lawyer who knows that another lawyer has committed a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct that raises a substantial question as to that lawyer’s honesty, trustworthiness, or fitness as a lawyer in other respects, shall inform the appropriate professional authority.
(b) A lawyer who knows that a judge has committed a violation of applicable rules of judicial conduct that raises a substantial question as to the judge’s fitness for office shall inform the appropriate authority.
Comment: Self-regulation of the legal profession requires that members of the profession initiate disciplinary investigation when they know of a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct. Lawyers have a similar obligation with respect to judicial misconduct. An apparently isolated violation may indicate a pattern of misconduct that only a disciplinary investigation can uncover. Reporting a violation is especially important where the victim is unlikely to discover the offense.
Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, Christopher Wray, Jack Smith, etc – Professor Turley as a duty under his bar association’s Rules of Professional Conduct to report every one of them for disciplinary action.
Darren: ask him why he justifies writing so much about this misconduct and felonies – but refuses to put together a simple report of their misconduct as required for submission to his bar associations appropriate authority.
Cowardice? Or simply a financial calculus of where the most money is to be made?
Perhaps PT does file complaints.
Perhaps PT does file complaints. Wishful thinking? Perhaps you hope that will serve as an excuse that will defend our host’s violation of his professional code of conduct. His bar association’s Office of Disciplinary Counsel has searchable archives going all the way back to 1979, along with all kinds of other goodies available to even the general public.
Or you can just cut straight to the chase: just pick up your phone and ask them: 202-638-1501
Anonymous: at 1:35 PM
I can see the merits in having Jonathan petitioning the Organization (One of Their own). A non-member petition can be just as effective. Write out your views and send it to them. A letter campaign can be motivating, particularly if you get some press behind it.
Anonymous at 1:48 PM “A non-member petition can be just as effective.”
1. False. Is that a hoped for deflection? Or you missed the point of professional requirements required of all members of the Washington DC bar association – of which Professor Turley is a member.
2. Unlike Professor Turley, I do not have his professional OBLIGATION to report apparent misconduct, negligence, malfeasance and outright criminality.
Anonymous: at 2:19 PM
Well I guess you’re just out of luck then. But Hey – You tried and that’s what counts.
That’s all anyone can do.
Via – Anonymous: at 1:48 PM ~ Here’s Your Homework
Rules of Professional Conduct Review Committee [DC Bar]
https://www.dcbar.org/about/who-we-are/reports/rules-of-professional-conduct-review-committee/rules-of-professional-conduct-review-committee
District of Columbia Rules of Professional Conduct: Final Report and Recommendations
This is a 203-page, 995 KB PDF file that includes the proposed amendments to the Rules of Professional Conduct. It is not intended to be read online, but downloaded and saved to your computer.
Download and save now.
dcbar.org/getmedia/cd6fedc1-3700-4312-ad16-5fe8051b4b37/inside_the_bar-structure-reports-rules_of_professional_conduct_review_committee-rpcreport
RE:
Rule 8.3 – Reporting Professional Misconduct p.191
Rule 8.4 – Misconduct .p194
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Office of Disciplinary Counsel [DC Bar]
How To File A Complaint
The Office of Disciplinary Counsel (ODC) was created by the District of Columbia Court of Appeals to investigate and prosecute complaints of ethical misconduct.
dcbar.org/attorney-discipline/office-of-disciplinary-counsel/filing-a-complaint
Filing a Complaint [DC Bar]
Sign and date the complaint form or written statement, attach any relevant documents you have, and send it by email to odcinfo@dcodc.org, fax to 202-638-0862, or mail to:
Office of Disciplinary Counsel
District of Columbia Court of Appeals
515 5th Street NW
Building A, Suite 117
Washington, DC 20001
Thnx D (>ᴗ•) !
Via – Anonymous: at 1:48 PM ~ Here’s Your Homework
While you were doing your homework: where did you find where the DC Bar Association exempts Professor Turley from complying with that bar association’s Professional Code Of Conduct? Tell me I’m wrong if you want to claim he does not have to comply with that rule of his bar association.
While you were squirming around trying to find a deflection to throw up in defense, how did you miss that Professor Turley has a legal obligation to report all the unethical, corrupt, and criminal conduct that he writes almost daily about each day?
You don’t understand the different between a private citizen being given permission to file a complaint, and Professor Turley as lawyer member of that bar having a professional DUTY to file a complaint?
But hey! You showed up to defend, however incompetent you were at doing so! Give that good boy a cookie!
Anonymous: at 6:25 PM
You should go get a J.D. and take the BAR in D.C. so you can make the complaint yourself and do your own Homework.
Nowhere does it say that you can’t hire an Attorney of the DC Bar to make your complaint.
If you choose to hire Jonathan Turley to bring your complaint, then do so., by all means.
And the DC Bar is more than welcome to refer you to an Attorney, just pick up the phone and make the call or email them,
It’s not that hard.
I’m certain you can do it
Anonymous says:at 7:06 PM: You should go get a J.D. and take the BAR in D.C. so you can make the complaint yourself and do your own Homework.
You are going to make both your brain cells dizzy by ordering them to continue circling the drain to avoid the fact that it is Professor Turley, not me, who is continuing to violate his professional duty as a lawyer member of that bar association to report the malfeasance and crime of his fellow members.
Related to you gaining an important understanding of the difference between a duty to do something and a right to do something, you could start by learning something of the Hohfeldian analysis of legal relationships. Then you can get an inkling of understanding of binding legal duties that Professor Turley functions as a lawyer under, versus the legal rights and liberties I can choose to invoke or not as a private citizen.
I’ve a very small measure of hope that, with lots of help from Google, you may be able to do it. Now, off you go Skippy to figure that stuff out.
If this is the best defense Professor Turley is going to get for defense of his ongoing violations of his bar association’s Professional Code Of Conduct, he needs to get a better grade of fanboy.
Anonymous ethical requirments only apply when there is personal involvement.
None of us are required to report on the misconduct that we see on the news.
Obama is a criminal of high office.
Obama violated American fundamental law through the unconstitutional implementation of wholly unconstitutional Obamacare, which cannot be taxed for or funded, established as an “enterprise,” or “regulate” any aspect, facet, or degree of the healthcare industry in America.
Incrementally, the left’s governance has gravitated from sleazy politics and dirty tricks to doing anything and everything in order to grab the title, position and power . . . FOREVER.
Almost forgot that it’s Friday!
Pray for our Motherland
Zzzzzzzzzz…
The spying on the opposition has been a common action throughout the ages.
From Ayn Rand.
Toward the end of World War II, newspapers reported the following
: when Russian troops moved west and occupied foreign towns, the
Soviet authorities automatically executed any person who had a bank
account of $100 or a high-school education; the rest of the inhabitants
submitted. This is a physical dramatization of the spiritual policy of
mankind’s moral-intellectual leaders: destroy the tops, the rest will
give up and obey.
The socialist have always done so and they continue to do so today
Thinkitthrough reported that Ayn Rand reported that anonymous newspapers reported is not a clear chain of evidence.
Certainly Stalin wasn’t a socialist – he was a totalitarian dictator with a large streak of paranoia. Not the first, not the last, and in no way a socialist.
ATS there are no real socialists – all attempts at socialsim move toward authoritariansm and totalitarianism
it is inherent in the idelogy’s misunderstanding of human nature.
With respect to TiT’s comment – The lowest level is newspapers reporting during WWII – if you wish you can go back and check those sources.
While the specifics of Rand’s claims – that those with $100 in the bank were executed would need to be verified – there are many many many sources that the Russians executed anyone who might prove to be a leader and therefore a threat to them.
The Katyn forest massacre of 22,000 polish officers is incredibly well documented.
Pol Pot committed similar murders by the millions in Cambodia, as well as Mao, Castro, Che, and on and on.
All attempts at capitalism move to oligarchy and authoritarianism and totalitarianism. It’s how the US was founded – authoritarianism by the slave-holding capitalists and totalitarianism over their slaves.
Yet we see in China authoritarianism is shifting to a capitalist free-market model to accelerate the industrial transition of the country while retaining the basic communist structure of government.
Reliable reporting, during a war, of atrocities by some unliked agent? The coverage of the Kitty Genovese murder should stand as a warning about that.
Here’s a more detailed rebuttal:
https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/dps2rc/stalin_and_the_myth_of_innocent_people_being_shot/
Find a link otherwise.
“Certainly Stalin wasn’t a socialist . . .”
“U.S.S.R.”
Do you know what that second “S” stands for?
The essence of socialism is government ownership of the means of production. It bans individual rights, private property, and redistributes income from those who earn it to those who don’t.
That was Stalin. And it is Mamdani.
North Korea refers to itself as Democratic.
Stalin was a totalitarian dictator, which in some ways resembles socialism, except it is done for the benefit of the dictator and not the people. It redistributes from those who have to those who need, something like a free market does.
Comprachicos, as well as comprapequeños, is a compound Spanish
word that means “child-buyers.”
The comprachicos traded in children.
They bought them and sold them.
They did not steal them. The kidnapping of children is a different
industry.
And what did they make of these children?
Monsters.
Why monsters?
To laugh.
The people needs laughter; so do the kings. Cities require side-show
freaks or clowns; palaces require jesters….
To succeed in producing a freak, one must get hold of him early. A
dwarf must be started when he is small….
Hence, an art. There were educators. They took a man and turned
him into a miscarriage; they took a face and made a muzzle. They
stunted growth; they mangled features. This artificial production of
teratological cases had its own rules. It was a whole science.
From Ayn Rand.
“The Return of the Primitive.”
They need the mangled children and man clowns who dress up like women to keep their circus followers coming back for more. Thus the existence of Anonymous.
Think
Now that got my attention.
drying paint gets your attention.
Rabble:
I’m jealous, Mr. off. You have your own dedicated troll for this site. I only wish I was seen as important enough to have an appointed detractor.
That is a great quote. (And apt.)
Just FYI: That’s her translation of a passage from Hugo’s _The Man Who Laughs_. She then used it to demolish today’s educational establishment.
It shows a sense of dangerous impunity at the Justice Department that should be thoroughly and aggressively investigated by Congress.
You are missing the point. It is who they are. From Lyndon Baines Johnson to Joseph Biden’s handlers, Democrats have manipulated Americans to have us believe they are a virtuous party. Their oracles at the MSM have painted their co-dependent handlers as noble and holy leaders. To wit:
It’s not just Trump. Billionaires dominate politics more than ever
How billionaires took over American politics: The concentration of wealth among the richest Americans is unlike anything in history — and so is billionaires’ influence in politics
New York City billionaire John Catsimatidis has long been immersed in politics. But last year the Republican real estate and oil tycoon donated more money than he ever had before — $2.4 million to support Donald Trump and congressional Republicans, nearly twice as much as he gave in 2016.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2025/billionaires-politics-money-influence/
here is a count of the following key words:
Trump: 36x
Musk: 8x
Catsimatidis: 6x
Pritzker: 1 x
Gates: zero
Soros: zero
The wealthiest donors to Democrat Party were never mentioned in the WaPo hit piece. Here is that list, all billionaires as of August 2025:
Wealthiest Donors to the Democratic Party
Notable Billionaire Donors
NAME……..ESTIMATED CONTRIBUTION……..NOTABLE AFFILIATIONS
Michael Bloomberg……..Over $100 million……..Former Mayor of New York City
Ken Griffin……..Over $75 million……..Citadel Group
Reid Hoffman……..Significant amounts……..LinkedIn co-founder
Paul Singer……..Hundreds of millions……..Elliott Management
Sheryl Sandberg……..Tens of millions……..Former COO of Facebook
Laurene Powell Jobs……..Significant amounts……..Philanthropist, widow of Steve Jobs
Dustin Moskovitz……..Over $51 million……..Facebook co-founder
https://sfstandard.com/2025/08/08/major-silicon-valley-democratic-donors-have-kept-their-wallets-closed-year/
Expecting Democrats to have a metanoia about their lawfare tactics and literally breaking many laws under Biden’s presidential term, is not grounded in reality. There is no reforming the Democrat establishment. It will never happen. No wonder they hate Christianity (aka by the Left as “Christian nationalism”), a religion that requires introspection, contrition and making amends to God and others.
What stupid stuff. This guy obviously is having a mental breakdown. DDS – Democrat Derangement Syndrome. Lots of that going on around this blog.
Are you the leader?
No. You the guy who claims to have a “collage” degree?
You perfect demonstrate the self deception of democrats that Estovir points out.
When confronted with the FACT that democrats receive many times more money from Billionaires your response is to call those providing you with those facts delusional.
Thanks, Estovir, for a helpful and informative comment.
You’re welcome, Young. Here’s one more, as crazy as it seems: JB Pritzker’s campaign via that darkest of dark money, Act Blue solicited money from Epstein.
Democrats just can’t devour enough money no matter the source. So much for WaPo’s Democracy dies in darkness deceit.
Epstein Files Backfire: Epstein Was Asked to Donate on Behalf of JB Pritzker’s Campaign – Years After His 2008 Conviction for Crimes Against a Minor
The newly released 20,000-plus pages from the House Oversight Committee do not place JB Pritzker on Epstein’s island, his jet, or inside the man’s criminal enterprise. But they do expose something Democrats hoped voters would never see: a 2018 solicitation sent to Jeffrey Epstein on behalf of JB Pritzker’s gubernatorial campaign – a full decade after Epstein was convicted in 2008 for soliciting sex from a minor.
The email, sent by Democrat-aligned operatives linked to ActBlue, pitched Pritzker as a “rising star” and invited Epstein to a Chicago donor event.
This wasn’t before Epstein’s fall from grace. It wasn’t before the world knew who he was. It was years after a Florida judge sentenced him for exploiting a minor – and years after Epstein became one of America’s most infamous registered sex offenders.
Epstein ultimately did not donate, according to FEC filings. But that’s irrelevant. The fact that JB Pritzker’s campaign – or the Democratic fundraising machine attached to it – was targeting Epstein for cash in 2018 raises serious questions about judgment, ethics, and the priorities of the Democratic donor class.
https://www.illinoisreview.com/illinoisreview/2025/11/epstein-files-backfire-epstein-was-asked-to-donate-on-behalf-of-jb-pritzkers-campaign-years-after-his-2008-conviction-for-crimes-against-a-minor.html
Democrats have a stronghold on the east and west coast. Other than Chicago, the rest of America rejects these dirty rotten groomers. The Founding Fathers were truly wise re: the Electoral College.
Estovir–
I think the mafia had more true honor than our current mob of Democrats. Thanks for the info.
Pareto Principle
* ^^^ furthermore it’s an 80/20 division of everything , even your own efforts. Communists know this and seek only to kill the productive 20% of any population to succeed. The 80% remaining don’t matter. The 20% murdered will be replaced by the central committee and the 80% will forever live in tyranny.
Vilfredo Pareto did the math but was preceded by Jeremy Bentham, English philosopher of course.
Let me add more, DJT knows Pareto and also knows 80% of government is redundant, non-productive and seeks to lower costs. The same principle holds true for congress. 80% are dead weight. 20% do all the work.
Estovir,
Thank you for pointing out that bias from the WaPo.
The Free Press recently pointed out this little fact, The Democrats Who Attack Billionaires—but Take Their Money
“On the influence of corporations and billionaires on politics, there’s an awkward gap between the Democrats’ rhetoric and reality.”
https://www.thefp.com/p/the-democrats-who-attack-billionaires-but-take-their-money
Wait, you needed a stranger to points out biases in WAPO. Can’t read?
If you’re really a farmer, what are you doing here all day long, weekends too?
Elon Musk, by himself, donated, in a single payout to the Republicans, more money than all that was listed as contributions to the Democratic party. It’s not even close.
Does Trump have any ” introspection, contrition and making amends to God and others.”?
Rabble: You have the FEC filing on that? or did you do as Crockett did and “Googl’d dat reel qwik”?
I wonder how judges and justices would respond/react if they learned that they were the targets of phishing dragnets carefully sieving/going through their personal phone and laptop contacts,–all triggered by a party unhappy with their rulings-and who was able to get a warrant, ex parte and undisclosed with unchallenged averments, but instead carrying the clout of official authority.
would respond/react? First off, your scenario is a hypothetical and therefore makes you a conspiracy theorist and in need of mental help.
No a hypothetical is not a conspiracy theory.
Nor are all conspiracy theories evidence of mental instability.
The lunatic beleif that Trump was colluding with Russia is a conspiracy theory and one indicative of mental health problems.
Because the least bit of critical thinking exposes it to be incredibly unlikely.
Conversely the claim that the deep state was out to get Trump and responsible for the collusion delusion is also a conspiracy theory.
One that has proven to be a conspiracy fact and those who offered it as likely early on are either prescient or incredibly good at critical thinking.
Mental health or disability is not measured by what you beleive to be true.
It is measured by what you beleive to be true that proves to be true and what you beleive to be true that critical thinking would have exposed as false from the start.
What is evident today is that Left wing nuts worry about things that are highly unlinkely – often beleiving them to be true without evidence.
Such as the collusion delusion or Biden competence or the Hunter Biden laptop being russian disinformation or a long long list of other claims that were obviously false from the start and subsequently proven to be false.
While libertarians and some conservatives concern themselves with things that are likely to be true from the start and in most instances prove themselves to be true such as the conspiracy between Clinton and Comey and other deep state actors to rig elections and when that failed to undermine the elected president and the will of the people.
the guy who spins nonstop hypotheticals on this blog into conspiracy theories, wants you to believe that not all conspiracy theories are evidence of mental instability.
Here’s the help line for mental help hot line: 1-800-555-2587
so all conspiracy theories are evidence of mental instability?. Here’s the hot line for YOU: I-800-NUT-CASE
John Say has significant mental health issues. He has been haunting this blog for years with his craziness and absurdly incomprehensible comments that make absolutely no sense to any normal sane person.
Most of us have learned to ignore him.
He has no credibility whatsoever.
OK doctor.
Jezzzzzzzzzzzzz
John
No a hypothetical is not a conspiracy theory.
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I’m guessing Ano has not idea.
“phishing” is using a phone call to convince someone to give up individual information, usually using some misleading talk to do so. For example, pretending to be an employee to get access to a company network or a company or government agency to get personal information. A “dragnet” is one that gathers up everyone/everything in the path. They are literally opposite activities.
No one went through laptop contacts except when the Trump administration dug through the alleged Hunter Biden laptop.
“phishing is using a phone call to convince someone to give up individual information, ”
??????
I regret that you seem to have a limited understanding of phishing dragnets. Perhaps you need to update your understanding by searching for dragnet warrants that rely on phishing, including reverse location and keyword search warrants, ORIGINATING from use of a false ID to gain access (but not always needed because of an expanded use of IP identifiers), -then engaging in phishing, ultimately exposing multiple people and their private texts and conversations, across multiple, I repeat, multiple communication platforms–all the progeny of that original communication or two.
Thanks anyway.
Good answer. If anon at 2:20 had an updated brain, he would see that even a simple browser search would produce this, ”
“No, phishing is not limited to phone calls; it can also occur through emails, text messages, and other online communications.” Do you think it is X/George?
Turley– “The demand for these records shows a reckless disregard for long-standing rules of engagement between the branches. It shows a sense of dangerous impunity at the Justice Department that should be thoroughly and aggressively investigated by Congress.”
Well worth repeating and remembering and acting upon if we hope to keep a country rather than a criminal enterprise.
dangerous impunity … and yet Smith got the records. So now Trump is retaliating, doing the same thing with mortgage records.
ATS,
Mortgage records are largely public. Mortgages and deeds are filed. When one cheats by swearing that a home will be a principal residence to get more favorable loans and taxes it is hardly privileged or confidential. It is almost a prima facie crime, like being caught in a bank with a gun pointed at the teller and holding a bag for the loot.
The Democrats are getting skint and hiring cheaper and lower quality trolls.
Young,
Thank you for pointing that out for our lower level elevator IQ trolls.
“you can look up whether a mortgage exists for a property and for how much, but you can’t see specific details about payments, interest rates, or other private information.”
The existence of a mortgage is a public record but the details are not. See https://anytimeestimate.com/mortgage/what-is-a-mortgage-note/
The documents in question have been shown to include that it is for a primary residence unless a separate document is also filed, and it appears that the other documents were filed.
You need a more complete source of information than the cherry picking you are consuming.
“Prosecutors said in their indictment that James filed tax documents showing she spent zero days in the house and that she received thousands of dollars in rental income. She also claimed exemptions for money she spent on the property, according to the documents.”
https://nypost.com/2025/10/15/us-news/letitia-james-signed-mortgage-doc-at-center-of-her-charges/
So now Trump is retaliating, doing the same thing with mortgage records. This is how Democrats are always Lyin’ And Denyin’ Like A Biden – all in hopes of pasting together a moral equivalency.
Just like Jack Smith’s first political assassination for Obama of Governor Bob McDonnell where he rewrote the law because there was no real crime
Then the Russia Dossier “investigation” where there was no crime (other than Obama perjury and FEC violations).
And now Biden’s Arctic Frost where there was no crime.
All of them, with none of their victims having committed a crime to investigate and charge on.
In the case of these Democrats and the mortgage documents they perjured themselves in signing, mortgage fraud IS a crime. As is Smith committing a felony by depriving Americans of their civil rights by color of law. Trump’s DoJ is doing exactly what it is supposed to do – enforce existing criminal law, not making law up to take out political opponents.
That famous Democrat rule of law: Nobody But Democrats Are Above The Law
Mortgage records are public records. Further it is not Trump or even his appointees who “got them” it is ordinary citizens who decided that if James was going to go after Trump over ludicrously stupid claims of mortgage fraud, They were going to dig up mortgage and other public housing records on James with theultimately proven expectation of finding much worse. And their success led them to look into the same records for other democrats often yeilding more and more evidence of fraud.
But it should not have required ordinary citizens to do this – the press should have done it long ago.
One of the legitimate roles of the press is to vet public figures. To go looking for their dirty laundry – the evidence that they are greedy corrupt frauds. Absolutely they should do so for those they disagree with – go after Trump and Vance and Cruz and …
But it is also critical for them to look into those they favor.
But the press failed at that and it was taken up by ordinary people searching public records.
All records involving real property – land and homes are public records, and have been for hundreds of years.
Regardless the long list of democrats in trouble for Mortgage fraud, ad in that trouble – not because Trump went after them, but because
ordinary people did the job the press did not.
AFTER their shenanigans were made public by ordinary people THEN members of the Trump administration looked into this and made criminal referals to DOJ.
No one would be complaining about Smith going after records of Republican congressmen – if Smith had probable cause they had comitted any crime.
Government is not constitutionally allowed to start an investigation into a person – as James promised to do in her campaign.
The constitution requires that GOVERNMENT must have reasonable suspicion of a crime to open an investigation, It must have probable cause of a crime to demand private records. Phone records are private, property purchases are not.
That is not something new created by Trump. It has been that way for centuries.
Further it is a necescity. It is a crime to tresspass on the private property of another.
To hold people to account it must be possible to know who owns what real property.
Conversely over the same centuries of time – private communications and information about them has always been PRIVATE not public.
Trump is following the law.
@Young and @lin: Expansion on these comments specifically related to the clause “It shows a sense of dangerous impunity”. Two issues:
1. Apparently, the US Legislation (House and Senate) is NOT subject to any form judicial conduct. Would love to see Professor Turley do an article on why the legislation can circumvent judicial process and fairness in order to submit “irrefutable” evidence in a manner that is neither defensible or would be allowed in a reasonable judicial process(example: hearsay, logic assertions[have you stopped beating your wife lately?], . . .. These “evidentiary” “depositions” fuel prosecutorial misconducts that arise using the appointment of know offenders to “dictate” these cases (Check out Jack Smith’s legal rape of McDonnell which was overturned unanimously by the Supreme Court of the United States after it had gone up through the OSF funding and support of a completely farcical Commonwealth of Virginia “judicial process”).
2. As we have seen, the key to impunity is irrelevance. Your allies will stretch the process beyond the statue of limitations, so simply ignore the law. Examples of this recently include:
a) Stall the investigative process – Comey case; “cyclically” delayed routed and impeded, obstructed, and hindered under the authority of U.S. Attorney Erik Siebert who was recommended into that position by Senators Tim Kaine(D, VA) and Mark Warner(D, VA, chair of the Senate Democratic Caucus)
https://jonathanturley.org/2025/10/09/comeys-hail-mary-play-the-former-fbi-director-will-reportedly-raise-three-threshold-challenges-to-his-criminal-charges/
b) “NYC woman who sucker-punched pro-life activist won’t be prosecuted as Manhattan DA Bragg’s office admits botching case” [case reduced to minor offense, minor offense not filed until statute of limitation exceeded, –> and then dismissed]
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/manhattan-da-declines-to-prosecute-nyc-woman-who-punched-pro-life-activist-during-street-interview/
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Even if a process IS resurrected (improbable) the results will be parking tickets and apology statements without repercussions (other than positive cash for media consultation and downright “thank you” gifts). A great example of this would be the examination of the Judicial Process for those who issued the “legal orders” and turned the “legal wheels” that resulted in looting and ultimately execution of millions (including massive genocide)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judges’_Trial
So, Turley is asking for this: In retribution for the law enforcement arm of the government looking into a direct assault on the core of representative democracy by a handful of legislators, the legislators who were investigated are showing reckless disregard for the long standing rules of engagement between the branches by attempting to act as law enforcement themselves.
Good point.
Perhaps the better answer to this, is to do the same thing to Democrats. Begin tapping their phones, and obtaining their records. Get their bank accounts on the sly. Sauce for the goose – – –
hey floyod, lure any hispanisc housekeepers to your place and shot em?
By “Hispanic” you mean Spanish speaking people as a group. That’s the definition.
Very low IQ comment.
Floyd-Why not. We already have the precedent set by the democrats. Ask for the same subpoenas from the same justices that allowed the subpoenas against republicans for their phone records.
“What’s good for the goose is good for the gander”. Not a legal term but then I think that means all men(women) are equal under the law. Or so it is alleged.
Floyd, GEB,
Great ideas!
In regards to this current complaint, no phones were tapped. The records were of who was calling whom to see who was part of the conspiracy to swap the false lists of electors for the ones submitted by the states.
All it takes for evil men to succeed is for even marginally good men to look the other way and say nothing. Silence is consent. Consent allows repetition of evil.
Judge Boasberg, Jack Smith, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Attorney General Merrick Garland, Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco, etc. Every one of them involved in Arctic Frost and Jack Smith’s second attempted political hit job on a dangerous challenge to a Democrat president’s reelection have lawyer status as members of the Washington DC Bar. That bar association has professional standards that have sanctions up to and including disbarment for unethical, fraudulent, or criminal conduct.
That bar association’s rules of professional conduct places a duty on any member of that bar association who is aware of another member lawyer or judge engaging in unethical, fraudulent, or criminal conduct to make a report in writing to give notice to the bar association’s disciplinary body when they have reason to believe that misconduct has occurred. If none of those lawyers finally stop looking away to finally report the conduct, nothing will happen.
Professor Turley makes a good income writing articles of complaint about the conduct of his fellow members of the very same Washington DC Bar Association.
But like every other Democrat lawyer that’s a member of that bar association, he also violates it’s professional rules of conduct by pretending he doesn’t see any conduct from these Obama/Biden Democrat lawyers that should be reported to the bar for disciplinary measures. He sees their misconduct – but will not fulfill his professional obligations as a Democrat lawyer member of that bar to report it.
In other words, none of Professor Turley’s fellow Democrat lawyers in their Washington bar association will ever be disciplined for their misconduct as Democrat lawyers. Just as Professor Turley will not be.
The misconduct will continue – and Professor Turley will then have more material to write columns about. The Democrats’ perfect self-licking ice cream cone.
* good points, anon. Another investigation yielding zip . Plaskett has Epstein asking remote questions of Cohen. What happened to her wrong doween? I’m guessing she can do it again. Why not.
Day late and dollar shirt…
Then there’s Larry Summers. I’m guessing he wanted out of that sewer called Havad. He decided to ho out as a ladies man.
* last paragraph paraphrase…rules have been broken, investigation needed.
I’m clutching my pearls, more wrong doweens.
From Trunp’s Admin No.#1, the 2020 Election and beyond, Jim Jordan (U.S. House of Representatives as the representative for Ohio’s 4th congressional district since 2007) and James Comer (U.S. House of Representatives as the representative for Kentucky’s 1st congressional district since 2016), have been vigilant on the: House Judiciary Committee (Present Chair of) and Chair of the House Oversight Committee (Present Chair of) respectively.
Obviously the pair are a thorn in the DNC Member’s Ass for good reason, given the corruption of the Democrats.
The thing that gets me is; Sen. Grassely, Rep. Jim Jordan, Rep. James Comer have been sitting on Committees with Mountains & Mountains of Evidence to server Indictments, but have gone nowhere with it. ‘Buried in Committee as they Say’. These gentlemen are Watch Dogs whom are all Bark and no Bite, and the Dems know it.
They should take a lesson for Marjorie Taylor Greene. The People are tapped-out, broke and struggling and again nothing is getting done in Congress (Tied up in Committee).
Drain the Swamp was a real sentiment that has not been delivered. Consequences must be performed in order to maintain order. A rich (wealthy) Legislature and a 38 Trillion Dollar Debt is proof that The System is not working properly (for the People – it works for Congress though).
MTG (Bark-&-Bite) knows it, Tucker knows it, Darren Smith knows it (all around Good-Guy), Turley’s Dog Luna knows it (the Supreme Being), and most importantly YOU KNOW IT.
Sen. Chuck Grassley, Congressman James Comer, Congressman James Jordan, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, Congressman Tim Burchett, Sen. Paul Rand, etc. … Republicans et.al. get off your asses and deliver what you were elected to do. Drain the Swamp and protect the Constitutional Union.
!!! RELEASE THE BURN BAGS NOW !!!
!!! RELEASE THE BURN BAGS NOW !!!
!!! RELEASE THE BURN BAGS NOW !!!
Spot on!
Lock this guy up in the looney bin.
If there are no consequences for Smith and the Judge authorizing “unlawful” subpoenas, what is to prevent this happening again to any citizen?
Lawlessness continues to increase across our country.
Congress should investigate the Judge and impeach him or her if facts reveal there was no legal authority to issue subpoena.
Justice should investigate Smith too. If nothing else, Smith should lose his license if facts reveal he had no legal reason to request subpoena.
Subpoenas unlawful? Probably not , just nudging the rules…
OT. Trump is up to 22 trillion in investments? He’s paying off the debt. Another 3 years or less it’s done.
The mortgage junk is just a distraction. Signed Epstein bill as a distraction. Chum in the water but someone will ask for complete transparency including the victims and get it. They want the banks now. Why? Ruin banks…
Imo
Subpoenas unlawful? Probably not , just nudging the rules…
No different than the Democrats’ MS13 Illegal Alien drug dealers simply being neighborhood street corner pharmacies, not criminals. Just nudging the rules on what you have to do and have to sell drugs to people.
Or as the government agent said to Winston while they were brainwashing him in the Democrats operations manual that is Orwell’s novel ‘1984’: The revolution will be complete when we have the language perfect
Did Smith tap Nancy Pelosi’s phone records after she said that the violence at the Capitol was all our fault?
Did Nancy Pelosi give Smith the order to tap the phone of the person who released a recording of her saying so while in her car leaving the Capitol? For years the left has been telling us about how terrible it was for Nixon to spy on Democrats but now most of them don’t say a word about Smith spying on Republicans. Democrats Chris Coons says it needs urgent follow up but will Chris Coons ever follow up?
Nancy goin fishing, Smith he goin fishin and Biden goin fishin too. With their pole mama and their lies all the Socialist goin fishin too. When questioned Nancy says, I’m shocked to find that espionage is goin on in this country.
It is concerning when certain members of our government branches increasingly attempt to stretch and expand the parameters of constitutional and statutory authority with respect to surreptitious investigating and spying. It is what keeps federal courts busy.
IT IS ANOTHER THING ENTIRELY when partisan members of Congress (six Democrats) –(and under the noses of our military leaders),–send video and televised messages directly to our military forces–telling our troops that they should refuse to obey commands or obey orders that they believe are “illegal.”
Such direct messaging to our troops, telling them what they should do, is NOT within the purview of partisan members of Congress.
(It is true that individual military members are taught that they may refuse to honor an order that they clearly know is illegal. That is NOT what the partisan subliminal inspiration in this video/television message is conveying.)
The video version features Sens. Elissa Slotkin, D-Mich., Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., and Reps. Jason Crow, D-Colo., Maggie Goodlander, D-N.H., Chris Deluzio,D-Pa., and Chrissy Houlahan, Pa.
(Trump, in truly hyperbolic Trump fashion, called them traitors and accused them of “sedition” “punishable by death.”
https://www.deseret.com/politics/2025/11/20/trump-responds-as-democratic-lawmakers-direct-video-message-at-troops/ )
But such conduct by these members of Congress clearly fuels the partisan divide and further lowers the bar for acceptable behavior between the political parties, leading to exacerbated unrest and conflict inside and beyond our governmental branches–PRECISELY what these members want to do so that they can blame Republicans and Trump.
The solution is for Trump to recall the five to active duty and court-martial them. While the penalty for violating Article 94, Mutiny and Sedition, could be death, even Article 134, Conduct Prejudicial to Good Order and Discipline, would lead to prison.
Thank you for fleshing that out. (Chrissy Houlahan is also a Democrat, rounding it out to six.)
I only mentioned it because it was all over MSM and other media (especially NBC and ABC networks) which shaped/fashioned the story as another criticism of Trump without a word of criticism for the six. Your knowledge of UCMJ provisions (I had to look it up.) punctuates my understanding, and “allowing for prosecution of behaviors that undermine military integrity and discipline” says it well.
All the Congress people are saying is that service members should refuse to obey an illegal order.
This is perfectly reasonable and consistent with UCMJ law.
Service members have a DUTY to disobey an illegal order.
They can be prosecuted if they obey an illegal order.
The Nuremberg defense of “just following orders” is not defense.
^^^^^from X/George, our resident lawyer, doctor, veteran, psychologist, educator, and vicarious member of congressional office. It looks like all she said was that it was not up to a partisan sub-group to speak directly to troops with a ‘subliminal’ partisan message. Your reading comprehension is pretty bad, buddy, especially as you are pretending to educate us (we know you had to look it up yourself. )clown.
That would be correct. But these congressmen are being disengenuous.
It is NOT sufficient to BELEIVE an order is illegal.
It is not even sufficient for some judge somewhere to declare an order illegal.
If as a member of the military you expect to disobey an order – that order must be more than something you BELEIVE to be illegal,
it is not even sufficient that the order ultimately proves to be illegal. It is not even sufficient for you to KNOW the order is illegal.
The order you are disobeying needs to be prima fascia illegal. It needs to be a crime against humanity or an obvious violation of international law or the rules of war.
Those in the military are NOT free to second guess their superiors.
If you are ordered to deploy to protect a federal building, it is irrelevant whether courts and others far up the chain of command from you are debating the legality of the NG protecting a federal building.
The purpose of the message was NOT to remind military members they are under no obligation to follow illegal orders. They ALL know that.
The Democrats cited no examples of Trump ever issuing an illegal order.
The purpose of the message was suggestive. To manipulate the public into believing Trump may issue illegal orders.
It was an info operation, pure and simple. Exactly like when the 50 allegedly “former” spies put out a document saying the Hunter laptop story had all the “hallmarks” of a Russian info operation. It wasn’t true. They knew it wasn’t true. But the point was to issue the press release knowing the MSM would amplify their false message to deflect attention away from Biden and onto Russia to help him win the election. The irony, of course, is that the spies falsely claimed it was a Russian info operation when in fact the so called “intelligence community” – allegedly former IC – was engaging in an info operation against the American public – with a huge assist from the MSM.
That’s exactly what is happening now with this idiotic “illegal order” message. It’s another info op against the public. They know Trump has issued no illegal orders because no examples of illegal orders were cited. Instead, they are relying on the MSM to amplify their misinformation to manipulate the public consciousness.
Ano
So define what an (Illegal) order is?
Notice, none of the dems made any effort. So we guess, that means any order by Prez Trump.
These Democrats have been very careful in their remarks – while it is clear they are encouraging insubordination, sedition and insurection, in none of the remarks that I have heard have they asked those in govenrment and the military to disobey a legal order or an order that they merely beleive to be illegal.
Within the context of the military an illegal order is really really narrow.
“Execute those prisoners” would be an illegal order.
As a soldier and particularly an officer chosing to disobey an order is extremely serious. The consequences range from severe to draconian.
It is not enough that you BELEIVE an order is illegal. The order must be prima fascia illegal – such as the execution of civilians.
If a soldier disobey’s an order they beleive to be illegal – even if they ultimately prove correct, but that order is NOT prima fasci illegal, they will be court marshalled, and possibly imprisoned.
As an example if your immediate superior orders you do do something that you BELEIVE his superiors have not given him the authority to issue,
You are still guilty of insubordination if you disobey. You are not free to disobey orders you BELEIVE to be illegal.
Those orders MUST be prima fascia illegal. They must be obvious violations of international law, or obvious crimes against humanity.
Likely the intent of these democrats is to get National Guardsmen to refuse orders to deply to protect ICE or CBP or to protect federal property.
It is possible – and we have existing instances where federal courts have invalidated those orders.
As a Guardsmen you STILL can not disobey an order to perform those tasks. It would be the President, or the political appointees that disregarded the Judges order that would be accountable for violating a judges order.
Those under them in the chain of command would still be insubordinate for refusing to obey.
Further we have not seen that. The NG has not been deployed anywhere that a valid and active court order has prevented their deployment.
The Trump administation has followed court orders until those orders are stayed or reversed – which has been happening very rapidly, because it is the Judges orders that are actually illegal
Outside the military things are different. As a rule you can not suffer criminal consequences for refusing to obey an order if you are not in the military. But you can and will be fired. You are free to disobey orders you BELEIVE to be illegal, or even legal but wrong.
You are fully free to excercise your personal judgement as to what you will or will not do.
But you are NOT completely free of the consequence of being fired for failing to obey an order for any reason.
Further for the most part you are actually obligated to resign rather than disobey an order.
If you wish to protest govenrment policy – you do so from OUTSIDE government.
John Say: The majority of what you say I agree with (you limited it to “violations of international law, or obvious crimes against humanity”).
Please note that my exact words did not accuse them of “asking those in govenrment and the military to disobey a legal order or an order that they merely beleive to be illegal.”
Rather, I said they engaged in “subliminal inspiration.” You and I both know they did and what I meant!
Thanks for your input.
“I am sure these members believe that they are not subject to such searches.”
Why would they think that? Legislators shouldn’t make such assumptions in an age of unrestricted lawfare. All is fair in politics when the game is played on a winner-take-all basis.
The government has to persuade a judge that the information will be relevant to an ongoing criminal investigation, under Article 206. Just what crine was Jim Jordan suspected of?
This information was subpeonad. Subpeona’s are not warrants and there are different requirements.
There is still a huge problem here, but there is not inherently immediate judicial supervision and consent for a subpeona.
Turley said the subpoena included a one-year gag order, issued by a magistrate. Did he just rubber stamp the request? Why go through the magistrate if he’s nit a decision maker.
What crime was Representative Jim Jordan suspected of ??? This is evidence of a rogue democrat-DOJ surveillance for illegal political purposes – period. There should be members of the Biden DOJ going to prison.
Thanks for this column.
BTW, I have greatly enjoyed Turley’s insights and legal analysis over the years