Below is my column in The Hill on the fallout from the release of the Epstein files from grand-jury and congressional investigations. As various figures are hounded over embarrassing emails, we need to ask about the implications of such a wholesale release. One can be in favor of transparency without dismissing the impact on third parties who are not accused of any criminal conduct.
Here is the column:
There are few characters more repellent than the late Jeffrey Epstein. His life left a line of human wreckage and misery. Those associated with Epstein have also faced public backlash and recriminations throughout the years.
Recently, however, the Epstein scandal took a new turn. Due to unprecedented access to once-sealed material, the public is now combing through emails, appointment books, and photos with a voracious interest in his private associations and contacts. Most of these people are not accused of any criminal conduct, mind you — just notorious association.
The result has been the humiliation and condemnation of various individuals revealed in the files.
The question is whether we should consider the implications of such transparency and how it can expose those who are not accused of any crime.
During our colonial period, public shaming was a common form of punishment. Back then, bilboes, brands, and branks were some of the devices used to punish the notorious amongst us.
That has been the fate of notable figures whose names have popped up in the new disclosures, ranging from former Obama White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler to former Harvard President Larry Summers to Sweden’s Princess Sofia.
The irregular intervention of Congress negated core protections afforded to collateral figures scooped up in criminal investigations. That includes some material previously protected under Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.
At the same time, members are releasing material subpoenaed from other sources in earlier congressional investigations. This includes a picture of Donald Trump, from before he became president, that was released by Democratic members this week. The picture with six women has the faces of the women dramatically blocked out as “potential” victims of Epstein.
The implication and the intent of the picture’s release are equally obvious: to suggest that Trump was cavorting with possible victims of human trafficking with Epstein. Another photo shows Trump sitting with a woman with her face blacked out. These pictures were released with other images of sex toys from the Epstein files, and a novelty box of Trump condoms that say “I’m huuuuge.”
Another previously public picture shows Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz simply talking to Epstein, who is wearing a Harvard sweater. Epstein was a donor to Harvard, and the photo could have been taken anywhere. However, it was released (again) alongside images of sex toys, Epstein in a bathtub, and a blacked-out picture of “possible victims.”
The releases have proven devastating for some. Summers left his teaching position at Harvard and a leading economics association after his communications to Epstein were made public. They included Summers allegedly seeking advice on how to seduce a young research associate as well as other communications that are sexist and offensive toward women.
Ruemmler has been publicly ridiculed for communications described as “chummy” with Epstein. Ruemmler, once considered for Attorney General, had downplayed her connection to Epstein. However, the communications show a more familiar association, including one stating, “I’ll be here all week — you may get sick of me.”
In another email, Ruemmler responds to a Daily Beast article about Epstein’s crimes by saying, “Good lord. A novella of rehashed crap.”
With Princess Sofia, the emails show that the former model and reality TV starlet met with Epstein. The Swedish government has tried to control the outcry, stressing that “these meetings took place in social settings, such as at a restaurant and a movie premiere.”
The problem is that context rarely matters in such stories. The Trump photo is a good example. The point is to make it look like the Democrats are protecting the identities of victims literally embraced by Trump from an Epstein harem of underage girls. The same tactic was used just a few weeks earlier when the Democrats released an email related to Trump with the name of a possible victim redacted. The White House objected that the name was that of Virginia Giuffre whose name was already public. Giuffre, who died by suicide recently, had previously said Trump was not involved in her abuse. The redactions were used strategically to suggest that this was another, previously undisclosed victim implicating Trump.
Under the common law, there is a tort called “false light” that includes pictures that may be true but are presented in a false light. This latest tranche is a blinding array of alleged false light imagery.
A torrent of material is now coming from the courts and Congress in the name of transparency. It is hard to argue against transparency. Indeed, some of us have argued for greater transparency on issues like the investigation into Epstein’s suicide. There are also established grounds for the release of sealed information. The question, rather, is the wholesale release of such information.
Yet it is unpopular to raise such concerns when the appetite of the public is so high. It is even more difficult when the underlying emails, from figures such as Summers, are so disgraceful and repulsive.
Historically, this material has been protected because investigations scoop up a wide swath of individuals and evidence that are later found immaterial or collateral to the underlying crimes. It is often the rawest of evidence without satisfying standards of evidence or relevancy in an actual trial.
The public appetite for such releases can become insatiable. How about the Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby cases? Now that Congress has enacted special legislation to force the release of the Epstein files, there will likely be a greater expectation that other controversies demand equal transparency.
When House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) called for greater review of the Epstein material and the need for redactions, Democrats accused him and others of covering up the Epstein files. It worked. Congress rushed to pass the legislation compelling the release of the material.
Despite their denials, everyone loves gotcha stories exposing celebrities. It does not matter that the conduct being exposed might be entirely legal and unrelated to any underlying crime. The result is guilt by association, without the context of what that association amounted to in a given case.
The question now is whether the new transparency could erode longstanding protections for grand jury and sealed material in these investigations. Those protections could prove to be the most lasting legacy of Jeffrey Epstein.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of the best-selling book “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.” He previously represented a grand jury in the Rocky Flat case over the exceptions to grand jury secrecy.
Is the omnipotent “Dictatorship of the Juristocracy” still usurping and exercising all executive power today?
Asking for a friend.
Actually, the judicial branch enjoys the judicial power, or the power merely to judge (i.e. form an opinion about through careful weighing of evidence and testing of premises), and its decisions must be devoid of and shall not usurp and exercise executive power, which is vested exclusively in a President of the United States; the same is true with reference to the exercise of the power of the commander-in-chief, and no legislation by the legislative branch may include the usurpation and exercise of executive power or the power of the commander-in-chief.
usurping and exercising
Another lie? Already? Funny you don’t cite any evidence.
“Recently, however, the Epstein scandal took a new turn.”
– Professor Turley
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What does it say about the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs) that the “new turn” taken by the Epstein scandal remained dormant for the full four-year term of President Auto-Pen, aka Joke Biden?
Hammer Drops On Clintons: Appear For Epstein Depositions Or Face Contempt Of Congress
“As we reported last month, the Clintons outright refused to honor subpoenas demanding depositions on their connections to Jeffrey Epstein, prompting outrage from Republicans like Rep. Anna Paulina Luna who blasted Democrats for their sudden silence on the matter.”
https://modernity.news/2025/12/13/hammer-drops-on-clintons-appear-for-epstein-depositions-or-face-contempt-of-congress/
Darren
Wondering what I might have said today that block my comment?
You don’t have to use “hurtful language” to get special focus from Darren, if he takes a dislike to what you post. You could end up being one of those who gave up on new usernames and now post as Anonymous.
WordPress terminated the feature and refuses to remember screen names, making it easier to simply click and go anonymous.
GW,
I looked into the filters and found duplicates of what I believe were the comment you are referring, a copy of which was in the Epstein article and another in the Jennifer Welch one. I approved two of the comments due to the benign context in which the words were used.
The reason the automated system trapped the comment was due to it having included a prohibited word. You were probably not aware of this, but the proscribed word was the one beginning with a J and referencing a male donkey. Avoiding use of this word will avoid forestall the issue happening again.
Not to give SLUG’s a bad name, but the democrats remind me that like slug’s they leave slime anywhere they go. It’s hard to wash the slime from your brain, for as soon as you wash the slime for one portion the slug wonders on to another leaf of deceit. They preach not [ I ], it’s those lowly scoundrels over there just look at them. These Slugs live on filth, sucking in all that is unworthy, all the while preaching theirs is the way to salvation and peace. These human gastropod’s live mostly in the Swamps of Washington but also ride on a donkey/jackass hither and yon spreading their deceitful slime as they go. Remember the next time you hear one of the slugs spewing about this or that, its slime intended to cause confusion.
Mr. Turley… why haven’t any Democrat’s pictures been released?
Why hasn’t Speaker Johnson mandated that be done… how is it legal for the committee to release only secret material deemed to harm the President?
Ask Speaker Johnson.
Trump was a Democrat when those pictures were taken. They did release pictures with a Democrat in it.
yea, X was a commenter here when this article was posted. JT does release comments with idiot know-it-alls in it.
X – A more relevant question is why is pretty much every effort of the left to gin relevance or advantage fizzling ?
The answer is because you are liars.
We get months of Fascist, Worse than Hitler, Nazi – and it does nto work – Trump is elected – easily.
We get months of prices are rising, eggs, gas, ….. – and it does not work – people know who caused inflation and who is trying to fix it.
Nor is it just about Trump – yesterday more Jews were massacred at Bondi Beach in Austrailia.
They were killed because they were jews. People are dying in Gaza because they are or support terrorists. – regardless people beleive you less and less.
Personally I have little interest in the Epstain mess. But lots and lots of people beleive that powerful people right and life are hiding things.
Maybe they are – but what is being released undermines that narrative.
I beleive Epstain was a dispicable human being who trafficed under age girls.
But all these releases are undermining that. Myriads of photos of attractive adult women enjoying themselves at parties with rich and powerful people is fizzling.
I had to laugh – one of the photos had a blacked out face of a women that looked alot like a 40yr old Hillary Clinton. with a Victim caption.
It likely was not Hillary, but that does not alter the humor. Nor does it change the fact that blacking out the faces of smiling 40 yr olds that look like Hillary and calling them victims is a huge fizzle.
And Wow! Trump condoms labeled Huuuge – are you trying to make Trump MORE attractive ?
Once upon a time democrats were far better than Republicans at messaging.
In the past decade democrats are being crushed by Republican messaging – and the failure of their own.
Your first problem is that you lie too much – and everyone knows it.
Your second is that you have no sense of humor.
And your third is that people are laughing at you.
John Say,
Well said.
I think Democrats messaging is fizzling as at least half of the country is not the dupes they think we are. We see through their propaganda, their gaslighting, their lies and that is why so many people are switching off MSM and going to independent media. With exception of the cults true believers, the rest of us are only willing to put up with so much BS.
Upstatefarmer, MAGA wanted this. They have been demanding this for a while now. It’s just getting started. Fizzling. LOL! Sure. Sure.
John Say, fizzling? Gin relevance?
MAGA wanted this. Democrats happily agreed with the idea. The fact that the files have not yet been released means there is still a lot that could be revealed especially for the majority of MAGA fans who have been waiting a long time for this. How is that a lie? Kash Patel and Dan Bongino were big believers in the idea that the reason the files were not yet released is because there was an ongoing cover-up. They promised their followers to dive right into the files and expose the deep state cover-up. But….as soon as they got to the point where they could do that they got real sketchy themselves and put out BS statements that made MAGA mad and only fed the suspicion further.
“We get months of prices are rising, eggs, gas, ….. – and it does not work – people know who caused inflation and who is trying to fix it.”
Prices still haven’t come down. They are going up. Trying to fix it? They are not doing anything to fix it. They are spending more time blaming Biden and pushing more tariffs. Even the farmers are not buying Trump’s BS claims about the economy. Inflation is still going up. Neat prices are going through the roof. Polls are showing Trump is losing the economy among his supporters, even in deep red states.
“yesterday more Jews were massacred at Bondi Beach in Austrailia.
They were killed because they were jews. People are dying in Gaza because they are or support terrorists. – regardless people beleive you less and less.”
And it should be condemned. They were killed not just because they were Jews. Likely it was because Jews are killing innocent Palestinians with the same tired excuse you use. That they support terrorists. It’s a weak argument when the Israelis a majority don’t buy Bibi’s claims anymore.
“Personally I have little interest in the Epstain mess. But lots and lots of people beleive that powerful people right and life are hiding things.
Maybe they are – but what is being released undermines that narrative.”
You have little interest in the Epstein mess because it’s not defensible. Because Trump may be implicated in other ugly things we may yet not know that may be even more indefensible.
How does the release of the files undermine the narrative? What narrative is that? That Trump may have been lying about his association with Epstein? Or that other powerful people maybe implicated and exposed? MAGA wanted this. Not Democrats they just joined MAGA in their demands.
The dismissive nature of your argument regarding the photos brings quite a hypocritical tone. If it were Biden in the cross-hairs of this scandal you would certainly not hesitate to pile on.
But regarding your democrats or the left lying. You too have lied about things. Claiming James Comey committed crimes and is guilty of them without proof is a lie. So are the claims about AG Letitia James. Neither has committed a crime or have been proven to have done so. Comey never lied to Congress and James never lied on her mortgage application. Both were victims of vindictive and shoddy prosecutions
Your gaslighting is absolutely hilarious though.
“MAGA wanted this. Democrats happily agreed with the idea.”
Correct.
Have I EVER claimed to be a republican or MAGA or Trump supporter ?
I have zero problems with what is being constitutionally produce – beyond observing this is a fizzle so far.
I have major problems with the government releasing 4th amendment protected information – congress can not order a violation of the 4th amendment.
This is not about what I want to find out. It is about what I am constitutionally entitled to find out – and how.
” The fact that the files have not yet been released means there is still a lot that could be revealed especially for the majority of MAGA fans who have been waiting a long time for this. ”
Most of what is being released so far is from the Epstain Estate – what is it you think DOJ has that the Estate does not ?
Given this is coming from the house democrats – my expectation is they fast tracked information they thought would damage Trump.
Regardless there is no reason to beleive that if the information is randomly selected – that if there is nothing in the first Tranche later tranches will be more damaging.
And if it is not randomly selected – the damaging information will come first.
But you are free to beleive what you wish.
Just warning that you should expect to be disappointed.
“Kash Patel and Dan Bongino were big believers in the idea that the reason the files were not yet released is because there was an ongoing cover-up.”
Again – I am not a republican or MAGA.
The FBI has found plenty that was actually covered up.
Unconstitutional subpeonas for Republican Senators,
A deliberately stalled pipe bomber investigation.
Screwed up investigtion of Crookes.
All kinds of malfeasance in Artic Frost.
Covered up FBI CHS reports confirming the 5Mfor hunter 5M for joe Burisma deal.
and on and on.
So the Epstein stuff did not pan out.
Worse still it is starting to make Epstain and Maxwell look innocent – I am not saying they are.
Just thus far not only have you failed to “Get Trump” but you have undercut the entire Epstain story
while at the same time catching several of your own
Hanks, Summers, Obama staff.
“They promised their followers to dive right into the files and expose the deep state cover-up.”
I do not care what they actually promised much less what YOU say they promised.
If I really cared about Patel and Bongino’s claims – I would find them on Youtube.
Regardless, the FBI can not violate the 4th amendment just because Patel and Bongino are leading it.
” But….as soon as they got to the point where they could do that they got real sketchy themselves and put out BS statements that made MAGA mad and only fed the suspicion further.”
Because they can’t. Again 4th amendment. This was true when Biden was president it is now.
What is harder to stop is illegal leaks. If there was anything Trump had to worry about – it would have leaked in 2024.
“Prices still haven’t come down. ”
Some have, some haven’t. Eggs and gas are way down.
Overall inflation is under 3% that is too high, but neither Trump nor the Fed are willing to inflict the pain it probably will take to bring it down to 1%.
We will not get overall deflation so long as we have a federal reserve – the FED can not function without about 1% inflation
That is why prior to the FED mild deflation was the norm after mild inflation.
Regardless, no one rational expected that overall prices would come down. What they expected was lower inflation.
Inflation overall is tate at the same rates as the tail end of the Biden admin. But it is not going up, it is not good, but it is not horrible.
And increases in wages exceed increases in prices – and that will make the people you thinbk should be up in arms happy.
“They are going up.”
Some will, some wont.
Inflation will continue so long as the FED exists.
Getting inflation below 3% probably recuires significant cuts in government spending.
You pi$$ed all over DOGE. So that is not happening. But the rate of growth of government has been slowed.
“Trying to fix it? They are not doing anything to fix it.”
Are they trying hard enough – nope. But yes they are trying. However they are more focused on providing jobs for the working class and increasing working class wages – and at that they are succeeding.
“They are spending more time blaming Biden”
Spend an extra 7T and you deserve the blame for inflation.
BTW what have we gotten for that 7T ?
“pushing more tariffs.”
So ?
“Even the farmers are not buying Trump’s BS claims about the economy.”
False – Farmers like all other groups are trying to engage in rent seeking.
That is the perfectly natural response of a mostly free market to a powerful government.
If you want farmers and others to stop rent seeking – you need to end the economic meddling of government.
As I noted before the price of SOY is about 30% higher than pre tarriff.
Farmers do not need aid – nor does anyone else. But any group with the least bit of clout will seek govenrment money – and barriers to entry if Government has the power to deliver.
Republicans are less reponsive to that then democrats.
Trump less than republicans.
But even republicans take political advantage of rent seeking.
” Inflation is still going up.”
Nope.
“Neat prices are going through the roof. ”
As they have been except during early covid for decades.
“Polls are showing Trump is losing the economy among his supporters, even in deep red states.”
We can find polls that will show anything you want.
Polls show support for blowing up cigarette boats of drugs in the Caribean at just under 80%.
But most importantly – there are now TWO polls with the GOP ahead of democrats in the Generic Ballot.
Overall the polling still has democrats ahead – but the trend is the wrong way and the election is 11 months away.
Lots of things could change – some will harm Trump and the GOP some will help him.
The odds now favor more help than harm.
I do not think Maduro lasts very long.
If that is accomplished without US bloodshed – that is a big win. In the long run that is a huge economic win for both Venezuella and the US.
The process is tediously slow but there will be peace in Ukraine and Israel. There likely will be many more countries joining the abraham accords.
The tarriffs and other factors are driving production adn investment to the US – some of the impact of that will be near immediate, Some will take as much as 3 years or more – but there will be significantly more positivee impact by November.
Tarriffs are not producing the revenue Trump hoped for. They are not effecting prices the way the left claimed either.
China is still experiencing deflation and my purchases from China are declining in price not increasing.
April is coming – when near everyone will see huge cuts in their taxes – the Standard deduction has been increased 50% – EVERYONE benefits from that. In April they will SEE that impact. Politically that could be huge.
The effects of deregulation take time to take hold – but alteast some possitive impacts will be phasing in slowly over the next 11 months.
And on and on.
Of course a giant Cat 5 huricane could hit New Orleans next Fall or another Chinese lab leak could hit us with COVID II.
Or massive volcano erruptions could reduce farm production globally, or an asteroid could hit or myriads of other bad things that would hurt Trump.
But of the things that are inside the control of the president – much of what is likely is good.
“They were killed not just because they were Jews. Likely it was because Jews are killing innocent Palestinians with the same tired excuse you use. That they support terrorists. It’s a weak argument when the Israelis a majority don’t buy Bibi’s claims anymore.”
I will bet they do today.
Regardless, this is a problem for the left – not Trump not Israel.
Not only are Israeli’s more likely to support Netanyhu today – much of the world is.
This act of Terrorism hurt Palestinians – far more than Jews.
But beleive what you want.
“because what was promised has not been delivered. ”
And it is probable that it never could be.
Lets assume Epstain really was traficking to pedo’s.
The world assumes that so why not.
And blackmailing people.
That gets more complex – he can not get caught with the blackmail material – the posession and production of child porn is subject to capital punishment in parts of the world – still slammed in the US.
You say he is protected – But how protected ? It only takes one ambitious or self righteous DA who has no skeletons
So if the blackmail material even exists it is likely impossible to find.
But even if he was traficking for Pedo’s there may be no blackmail material.
It is entirely likely that Epstain did not keep anything incriminating at all.
He does not need to blackmail Pedo’s he is providing them something he wants.
Further if uber wealthy people thought he was a blackmailer – before he had anything on them – he would do exactly as Trump and numerous others did and distance themselves from him.
In all likelyhood – whatever Epstain was doing there is no incriminating evidence beyond the words of the victims.
Separately from that – whether Biden or Trump, regardless of what Boningo and Patel might say – DOJ/FBI can not share investigative material or GJ material without prosecuting them.
We do not need the protection of constitutional rights for the easy cases – we need them for the hard cases.
Free speech is not about protecting the speech most of us engage in daily – it is about the speech of Nazi’s. It is about the speech that people would seek to censor.
The same is true of the 4th amendment.
The fact that you are a target or worse just someone tangential to a criminal investigation does NOT mean that information that you choose not to disclose should be made public.
The government gets this information when it can demonstrate probable cause.
The public gets it when there is a trial.
I do not beleive there is anything damning to Trump – because the Biden DOJ/FBI would have leaked it. And they would have prosecuted.
But no metter what they were not going to openly make it public – the courts would have stopped them
All kinds of people left and right can talk about releasing all of this – and ultimately I think that will happen, even though it should not.
And that will not stop the claims that there is more – from the left and the right.
But that does not men there is more.
“Because Trump may be implicated in other ugly things we may yet not know that may be even more indefensible.”
You have been claiming that without evidence for nearly 10 years.
At what point do you realize your chasing fantasy’s
There was no russian collusion
The Hunter laptop was real.
There was no pee tape.
And you really do know pretty much all there is to know about Trump.
“How does the release of the files undermine the narrative?”
Because nothing released so far even provides a basis to beleive Epstain committed a crime.
You are making Epstain look innocent.
You think that is going to help you “get Trump” ?
“What narrative is that?”
All the naratives left and right are being undermined.
“That Trump may have been lying about his association with Epstein?”
How so ? With Summers and the Obama staffer and Rep. Plasket you have communicationss between Epstain and those people.
With Trump you have communications About Trump. If Epstain had the relationship with Trump that he had with Summers you would have similar emails – thus far you don’t – and if they existed, they would have come out first.
The photos that are ebing released are hurting your case not helping – in many instances they are not Epstain photos, just Photos from events that Trump was at that Epstain was also at or that Epstain managed to get photos of
Thje supposed HUGE reveal was a photo of Trump and a bunch of attracive adult female beuty pagent winners – a photo that Dems censored faces in that has been public for years.
Please tell me what you have that actually demonstrates a relationship of any consequence ?
“Or that other powerful people maybe implicated and exposed?”
If DOJ had that – either the Biden DOJ or the Trump DOJ would have prosecuted.
You ranted at Patel and Boningo for failure to produce. But your making the same mistake they did.
Your presuming there was criminal conduct AND there was incredibly strong evidence and that Both the Prior and current Trump DOJ/FBI and the Biden DOJ/FBI (and that of Bush and Obama) were burying this.
You could MAYBE sell that Accosta was leveraged to kill this in 2008.
You are just not going to be able to manufacure a credible conspiracy with everyone from Comey Wray. Patel,. Accosta, Holder, Lynch, Sessions, Barr, Garland, Bondi …. in on it.
At some point you are going to have to accept that there is little or no evidence of anything beyond guilt by association – beyond the testimony of the victims – and they have all cleared Trump.
This is NOT about left vs. right. It is not about Trump.
It is about reality.
Five years on there is no credible evidence Covid came from a wet market – accept that it is nearly impossible that Covid came from a wet market.
The same is true regarding not just THIS but ALL your allegations against Trump.
You can want to beleive that Trump was stupping 13yr olds supplied by Epstain – but if that was true there is ZERO evidence and if there has not been todate – there will never be.
If you were even wiser you would grasp that the lack of evidence against people whose lives are as public as Trump’s has always been, means the odds that such claims are true is near zero.
That is like buying lottery tickets and actually expecting to win.
Not happening.
Again this is not partisan, it is just reality.
” MAGA wanted this.”
Yes, the #metoo movement caught a massive number of high profile democrats.
MAGA expects exactly the same from this.
And if the standard of proof is merely being in a photo with Epstain – MAGA will get plenty of democrats
“Not Democrats they just joined MAGA in their demands.”
Nope, Democrats want this – There desparate like you and have little left to lose.
What is being release thus far is from democrat house members subpeonas of the epstain estate.
Nothing has come from DOJ/.FBI yet.
“The dismissive nature of your argument regarding the photos brings quite a hypocritical tone. If it were Biden in the cross-hairs of this scandal you would certainly not hesitate to pile on.”
The Biden photos are back up by direct observations of creepy conduct and a few claims of actual criminal conduct.
Do you have photos of Trump sniffing childrens hair ? There is little doubt he did this. Further he has been doing it for decades, and he has continued to do it as a 60 and 70 year old where it is REALLY creepy.
Look at the Trump photos – most are not even in color, they are from the 70’s and 80’s and MAYBE 90’s. They are of a Very Young DJT
The creepiness of conduct between young women and older men increases exponentially with the age difference – the younger the women the worse. The older the men the worse. We have 70 yr old Biden sniffing 12 year old girls hair.
You have nothing close to that on Trump.
With Biden then you can add Tara Reade – who is 1000 times more credible than E Jean Carrol., and you have LOTS of WH staff and secret service agents who have leaked stories of Biden the groper. Then you have Biden’s teenage daughter writing about showering with Joe. Even without Reade and you have a dirty old man.
Conversely with Trump what you have is a man who we all know was a rich playboy when he was much younger.
The access Hollywood tape is the most damning thing you have EVER come up with regarding Trump.
And it was not enough for Hillary to beat Trump.
Do you really expect your getting the magic Bullet from the Epstain files ?
You WILL see more and more people drugged through the guilt by association mud.
And it is possible that SOME of them did commit crimes – but if there were proof that would have come out.
Again if your betting on this – your betting on the lottery.
I have no problem with buying a lottery ticket as entertainment.
My mother used to take me to Atlantic City buy me $20 of nickels and it took me a whole afternoon to lose them all.
But that was inevitable. It was fun. But the only payback was entertainment.
“Claiming James Comey committed crimes and is guilty of them without proof is a lie.”
The proof exists – it has been made public.
He absolutely positively indisputabley lied under oath to congress twice.
Getting past the statute of limitations is not the same as being innocent.
He directly leaked information, and he indirectly leaked information.
He also provided Classified information to people not cleared for it.
Are these HUGE crimes – nope. But Reality Winner went to Jail for LESS.
While JUdge Cotar-Kelly has sequestered some of the evidence – most of it has already been published in the media from previously unsealed court filings.
Has he done much worse things that are less well proven ? Absolutely – it is not possible to reconcile Andrew McCabes testimony and Comey’s ONE of them lied under oath. It is also likely that Comey lied to the IG and lied to Muellers team – and there is alot more.
If you wish to claim those things are not proven beyond a reasonable doubt – fine – though most meet atleast the preponderance of the evidence. I would further note that Comey has a long long list of questionable conduct in Government throughout his carreer.
What is surprising is that you are so anti-trump that you are prepared to ignore his misconduct that involved Democrats.
Hillary blames Comey for losing in 2016.
“So are the claims about AG Letitia James.”
X – if you wish to keep making yourself look stupid – fine – But James too is nailed dead to rights.
She lied multiple times on Mortgage disclosures that are provided to Fannie/Freddie – that is a crime.
Again the documents are public.
She also did this in NY – but gettign a prosecution of James in NY is even harder that in VA.
She claimed a house as her primary residence – for atleast 18 months when she NEVER lived there.
This is a far worse fraud than she accused Trump of.
But it gets worse. Beyond mortgage fraud she did the same on Insurance applications – over the course of many years.
I have a home, and I have two rental properties – I can assure you that if I told the insurance companies that my rental properties were my home – They would be after me for Fraud.
There are several levels to this.
The insurance and mortgage on a primary residence is ALWAYS cheaper – The foreclosure rate on primary residences is TINY.
The foreclosure rate on commercial properties is much higher – so you pay higher interest for your mortgage
Lying about that is FRAUD.
Vacation homes and 2ndary residences get the next best treatment for mortgages and insurance – but significant;y higher than primary residences.
After that come Rental properties – with the highest mortgage rate and the highest insurance rates.
I got a mortgage on my home and on my rental properties at nearly the same time. There was almost 4% difference in rates, over 20 years that is alot of money.
I pay higher insurance on my rental properties than my home – even though they have lower value and are not nearly as well insured.
James did not EVER live in the VA property – from the time it was bought through the present it was “rented” to family members.
You can try to argue it was not a rental property.
You can not argue it was ever her primary residence.
I would further note that this can potentially expand into Tax fraud. That we do not YET have the evidence of.
But the mortgage paperwork is PUBLIC RECORD – the evidence is there.
Is this a crime that will land you in Jail ? Probably not, but if you are caught you with certainty are going to pay a HUGE amount of money getting out of trouble, and likely end up with a criminal record.
There is no evidence problems with either of these cases.
The core problems with these cases is they are SMALL potatoes. Compared to crimes with near certainty these two committed.
But then they got Al Capone – they got him on Tax Evasion.
I would note that Cooke has the same mortgage propblem as James. With similar evidence.
At the very least she should have resigned from the Fed.
We can not have people who lie of mortgage forms running the Federal Reserve.
Is Eric Siebert Correct that the EDVA would not typically prosecute these cases – absolutely.
The James and Cooke cases typically would be handled by State and local law enforcement – or if applicable the IRS.
Just as James tried to go after Trump.
As to Comey – that is fuzzier.
Comey;s conduct is much worse than what was alleged against Gen. Flynn or George Papadoulis or Van Zandt – and Papadoulis and Van Zandt went to jail.
But it is less than the perjury of Clapper and Brennan and no one went after them.
His Classified documents crime is much less than Biden or Bolton.
It is much less than Clinton. It is less than Petreaus or Deutch. But it is about the same as Sandy Berger. Who was fined and servered probation and community Service. It was slightly less serious than that of Reality Winner who was sentenced to 5 yrs.
The treatment of many of these crimes is inconsistent, but that does not mean Comey did not commit these crimes.
Whether you like it or not Comey is guilty BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT of multiple counts of
Leaking.
Conspiring with others to leak.
lying under oath about leaking and conspiring to leak.
Unauthorized handling of classified information.
Lying to the IG
Lying to the FBI.
He is with near certaintly guilty of many other crimes – he was an active participant in Obama’s soft Coup – for which Obama as president can not be prosecuted – but Comey can.
But we will not see prosecutions for those other crimes.
It is likely that When James and Comey go to trial – and they likely will – they will win – the trial will be in EDVA with very favorable judges and juries.
But that does not change the fact that they are guilty – beyond a reasonable doubt.
And once again you are lying.
Somewhat ambivalent on this. In some Districts, it has been successfully argued that records such as these exist independent of the grand jury since they were not created for it. Their existence prior to the grand jury makes its secrecy rules inapplicable. While the grand jury could not shield them from disclosure, their creator/original owner should have privacy rights that would govern in these disclosure decisions.
Prof. Turley.
I do not completely understand the mechanics of these releases.
GJ materials should remain sealed. I had thought that the courts had ordered that.
DOJ/FBI investigative materials should remain sealed.
I though that too had been ordered.
Both of those are constitutional issues.
As I understand most of what is being released now is coming from congressional subpoena’s by house democrats of the Epstein Estate.
Ignoring the idiotic way in which these are being released, I do not see any constitutional violation in obtaining records from epstains estate.
With few exceptions this is not having the impact Democrats hoped.
As Derschowitz said long ago – very little in the Epstain files will tell us something that has not already been reported.
That is proving to be the case.
Frankly this all seems to be undermining the case against Epstain himself.
None of these photos show anything close to a crime, or criminal activity.
John Say, You do know the Epstein case is closed, right? The criminal case closed when he killed himself.
The files were sealed because there were still civil cases from the victims pending. That reason was removed when the victims agreed to have the files released by the court.
Republicans also wanted the files released and much of MAGA.
“GJ materials should remain sealed. I had thought that the courts had ordered that.”
And the courts can unseal them when the case is no longer open or those still litigating the civil cases agree to unseal them. Even the Epstein estate agreed to release files.
“As Derschowitz said long ago – very little in the Epstain files will tell us something that has not already been reported.
That is proving to be the case.”
That is proving to be the case? John, the entirety of the files haven’t been released yet. How would you know “ that is proving to be the case”? We don’t know what else is in those files besides what is already known.
“None of these photos show anything close to a crime, or criminal activity.”
But they do show Trump in a bad light and reinforces what everyone already knows about Trump and his perverted views of women. Just like when congress released photos of checks or texts showing things out of context “proving” he was taking bribes. It was pure politically smearing and it was effective too. I don’t understand how you can’t understand the purpose of the releases. Dirty politics.
“Both of those are constitutional issues.”
How are they constitutional issues? Congress has the power to release the files and so did the FBI once the criminal case against Epstein closed. What more is there to fret about?
“You do know the Epstein case is closed, right?”
Correct, but that does not change the constitution.
The constitutional protections of information obtained through investigation applies to Everyone not prosecuted.
It even applies to Epstain himself despite the fact he is dead. By law as there was not a final verdict of guilt Epstain is legally innocent.
All of us would like to see everyone who was involved in the traficking of girls prosecuted and if that is not possible exposed.
Myself included.
But we do not sacrifice the rule of law and the bill of rights to do so.
Lots of DOJ material will be released, with some redactions – which we will spend years arguing about.
Regardless, that is WRONG. DOJ should prosecute those it actually can, and otherwise stay silent.
None of us are entitled to DOJ material.
Judge Cotar-Kelley got the Richman/Comey ruling WRONG, but she is atleast correct that DOJ can not make public what it has without prosecuting. She will be overturned on appeal. But she is atleast right on the underlying principle. Government investigative records and evidence get made public in Trials. If you do not prosecute Government can not use what it has obtined through criminal investigation to defame people. Especially people who are not charged.
But my understanding is that much of what is CURRENTLY being released is coming from house democrats subpeonas of the Epstain Estate.
I think that is proving to be a political Dud – but atleast it is not a violation of the constitution or anyones rights.
“The files were sealed because there were still civil cases from the victims pending.”
Nope – the constitution precludes government – state federal and local from releasing investigative material without prosecuting.
That is not new and has nothing to do with civil cases.
There is no legal reason that a pending civil suit requires sealing criminal investigative documents.
And investigative materials are protected from release by the constitution – that protects ANYONE not charged – including victims.
“That reason was removed when the victims agreed to have the files released by the court.”
That would apply to the records of civil cases. Which are nearly always public anyway.
“Republicans also wanted the files released and much of MAGA.”
They do – I understand why they do. I do too. But it is not constitutional.
And for good reason.
“And the courts can unseal them when the case is no longer open or those still litigating the civil cases agree to unseal them. Even the Epstein estate agreed to release files.”
There is no but a Judge said yes exception to the bill of rights.
GJ materials are secret PERIOD – but pretty much all investigative material is also secret.
The epstain estate is free to do as they please with what they possess. They can also demand the return of records obrained from them by the DOJ/FBI and release them – but ONLY records obtained from Epstain.
“That is proving to be the case? John, the entirety of the files haven’t been released yet.”
And what has been released has told us WHAT of consequence that we did not know ?
I guess I did not know that Epstain had lots of sex toys – but I could have guessed it.
I did not know there were 40 yr old DJT Condoms with “I am huuuge” on them – but could have guessed that too.
What has come out so far that has actually shocked people ?
I did not know that Tom Hanks was in Epstains orbit, or that Larry Summers solicited dating advice from Epstain.
I did not know that members of Obama’s staff were involved with Epstain.
I did not know that Trump ran a beauty pagent in Hawaii.
But none of this is “shocking”.
So far this is a fizzle, and I expect lots more of the same.
” How would you know “ that is proving to be the case”?”
Because it is. Nothing so far is especially damning to anyone – beyond “Ew, you were in Epstains orbit”
Could there be some bombshell in what is coming ?
I would bet money on more of the same.
I would also bet that democrats have nearly “shot their wad” on Trump.
” We don’t know what else is in those files besides what is already known.”
Litterally – correct, At the same time – if there was anything truly damning to Trump – it would have leaked long ago.
Expect more of the same – slightly surprising connections to others like Tom Hanks. Maybe some more idiotic emails like those of Larry Summers.
But if you are hoping for Video of Trump barebacking a 13yr old your engaged in wishful thinking.
You are NOT going to get any clear evidnce of criminal conduct.
If you were DOJ under either Trump or Biden would have prosecuted.
“But they do show Trump in a bad light and reinforces what everyone already knows about Trump and his perverted views of women. ”
What they show is that Trump liked young adult attractive women.
I would note that they ALSO show that young atractive adult women liked Trump.
The Access Hollywood tape was far more damaging than this.
Trumps poll numbers have been RISING through this – so does not seem to have had much effect.
Regardless, the Access Hollywood tape released immediately before the 2016 election did not take out Trump.
You expect this will ?
“Just like when congress released photos of checks or texts showing things out of context “proving” he was taking bribes. ”
Can I buy a noun ? He who ? He Trump ? please tell me when congress provided anything “proving Trump was taking bribes ?
Or did you mean Biden ? Biden’s corruption was proven by Many many bits of evidence. Money received without plausible explanation.
Complex corproate and banking schemes to try to thwart tracing, over 100 suspicious activity reports from banks. Bidens own Public remakrs,
The testimony of associates and cronies. Now numerous FBI CHS reports confirming first hand knowledge of the $5M for hunter $5M for Joe deal for quashing the burisma investigation while Joe was VP.
“It was pure politically smearing and it was effective too. I don’t understand how you can’t understand the purpose of the releases. Dirty politics.”
I understand the purpose of the release.
I am challenging the effectiveness of the release and the constitutionality of the release of GJ and investigative records.
If the media can obtain the same records without accessing them from the GJ or DOJ/FBI I mam fine with that.
The parties in the civil suits can release whatever they wish Further civil suits are usually public and often no ones permission is needed to release records.
I am addressing TWO things.
First our purient interests do not allow violating the constitution.
Next This is turning into a huge Fizzle.
The next step will be claims from both right and left that things are being hidden.
That there is some conspiracy.
We will still be talking about the Epstain files 40 years from now.
But nothing more is coming from this beyond minor embarrassment for some high profile people.
And the real damage will be mostly to the left.
Hanks and Summers are hurt by this.
Do you honestly think that this dinged Bannon or Trump ?
In a Week we may see Trump Condoms being marketed.
“How are they constitutional issues? ”
Bill of rights – 4th amendment to start.
“Congress has the power to release the files and so did the FBI once the criminal case against Epstein closed.”
Nope – you are completely clueless about the law.
While Judge Cotar-Kelley’s ruling that DOJ must return records to Richamn will be overturned – the criminal case and investigation is ongoing.
There are appeals pending, and Comey and Richman have not died. Therfore DOJ/FBI can keep the records they have obtained in the course of the investigation. CK can order DOJ not to make them public – though that has alrady occured.
However she is correct that ultimately when the case has truly ended DOJ/FBI must return those records or destroy them – at the request of the parties involved.
There is not a different version of the 4th amendment that applies to Comey than to the Epstain records.
“What more is there to fret about?”
The destruction of the rule of law.
There is not a purient interest exception to the 4th amendment.
John Say, Jeeezuz! You should really post shorter responses.
“It even applies to Epstain himself despite the fact he is dead. By law as there was not a final verdict of guilt Epstain is legally innocent.”
Doesn’t matter if there was no final verdict. The evidence against him is unmistakable. Everyone knows what he was doing thanks to Ghislain Maxwell.
Epstein is dead. There are no Constitutional issues to be considered. The victims agreed to release the files, the Epstein estate agreed to release the files, Congress agreed, and the courts have agreed.
“Congress has the power to release the files and so did the FBI once the criminal case against Epstein closed.”
Nope – you are completely clueless about the law.”
They do and they did. You have not explained how that cannot bee done. Remember, Epstein is dead. The case is closed. The files are a matter of public record now. There is no 4th amendment issue.
“While Judge Cotar-Kelley’s ruling that DOJ must return records to Richamn will be overturned – the criminal case and investigation is ongoing.”
Nope, the ruling won’t be overturned. The DOJ did not get a warrant to look into Richman’s files, computers and other data. They needed a new warrant to do that. It is you who does not understand how the law works. There is no case or investigation against Comey because there never was a valid indictment and the statute of limitations prevents any further investigation, particularly when the evidence they relied on is no longer available.
The DOJ messed up in such spectacular fashion. That the legal community is openly mocking their incompetence. That is not good.
“There is not a different version of the 4th amendment that applies to Comey than to the Epstain records.”
There is a difference. Epstein is dead and the case is closed. Richman is alive and his 4th amendment rights are being violated in pursuit of a case that no longer exists legally. You’re going to have to concede one way or another that the Trump DOJ messed up catastrophically bad in their pursuit of a prosecution that was clearly a vindictive prosecution from the start. Comey had a stronger case and better evidence proving it. Halligan screwed up and her illegal appointment was Bondi’s mistake.
I do not see the need to rehash rebuttals of your stale lies – I refer you to numerous comments refuting every claim you make above over the past several months.
The least you could do is come up with new lies.
BTW Trump record with SCOTUS is over 90%, his record with appeals is about 50%.
The left only sues in a very few favorable jurisdictionw with a tiny number of heavily biased judges.
There are almost 1000 Federal Judges. Trump has lost the first round against approximately one dozen.
Of all Trump first round losses – more than 80% are infront of only 5 judges.
With one or two exceptions the only cases Trump has not ultimately won are those still pending apeal.
That is the Track record of not just Trump – but the attornies he has put in place.
That is a STELLAR record.
Conversely left wing nut plantiffs attorneys – the “legal experts” you consult have only won in cherry picked districts.
Have lost 50% of the time on appeal and nearly 100% of the time at SCOTUS.
And yet we still have judges like Boasberg and Xinis sitting on cases and issuing opinions on that SCOTUS told them they have no jurisdiction on.
My personal record of predicting recent SCOTUS cses is better than Turley’s – in fact it has been better for the past 5 years.
On occasion SCOTUS has used different reasoning than I expected – but the holdings have been what I claimed.
I should be betting on SCOTUS outcomes – I would get rich.
One thing that Turley and I have in common in SCOTUS handicapping is that we can distinguish between what SCOTUS should do – what the constitution actually says, and what SCOTUS will do.
After decades of anticipation, on Monday congressional Republicans finally unveiled their healthcare plan, urging all Americans who seek coverage to move to Canada.
“Under this plan, the American people will gain full access to the doctors, hospitals, and medications they deserve,” House Speaker Mike Johnson declared. “They just need to wear lots of layers.”
The proposal drew widespread support from Americans, a majority asserting that they had already considered implementing such a plan since January of this year.
But it sparked a strong pushback from Canadians, who called on Prime Minister Mark Carney to build a wall.
A New Republican Vision for Health Care
https://realclearwire.com/articles/2025/12/12/a_new_republican_vision_for_health_care_1152996.html
Ahhhhh yes indeed !!!
Concepts of a plan once again.
As this stupid article states:
“Consumers should be able to shop for most medical care, but this currently is impossible. Real prices aren’t available up front, let alone whether those prices reflect high quality, high value care. Clear prices are particularly important when consumers control their own dollars and have coverage that lets them act on that information.
So when you fall down in the street with a heart attack or stroke or a seizure, or you are in a car accident with multiple broken bones and a concussion, or you are pregnant and in the middle of a miscarriage or premature labor, or you are vomiting uncontrollably from food poisoning, then the first order of business is to whip out your phone and “shop around” for the hospital with the cheapest fees. You should also consult Yelp and Google Reviews to find the doctors and facilities with the best reviews.
Try to get a grip on reality, my fake farming friend.
You are simply spouting absurd MAGA propaganda that is completely disconnected from the real world where those of us not in the MAGA cult actually live.
YOU, my ignorant commenter, don’t seem to understand that ALLLLLLLLLLLLL hospitals and emergency clinics MUST treat emergencies ASAP under the old COBRA, until they are stabilized and the emergency is over.. WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE INSURED OR WHAT KIND OF INSURANCE THEY HAVE. what an exaggerating clown.
So what exactly is your point ?????
You still have to PAY for the emergency treatment.
The Republican plan calls for the elimination of ACA insurance, in favor of depositing the ACA tax subsidy directly into some vaguely defined, self-directed, health savings account, instead of being paid to the insurance companies.
The average ACA subsidy is $550 a month, or $6,600 a year.
The cost of treating a heart attack requiring emergency by-pass surgery could easily run $100,000 to $200,000.
If you don’t have insurance, the hospital will bankrupt you.
Yes. end crappy obamacare and give me back that money and let the insurance companies beg me to choose them.
Free trade in healthcare now! the democrats nightmare!
ATS – there are no actual rights that impose a burden on others.
Healthcare is not a right.
It is not the business of Government.
If as a private individual you wish to buy insurance – to cover medical expenses or fire or flood damage or against martian invasion – that is something you have the right to do.
But you may no more force others to pay for your healthcare than to provide you with a puppy for emotional support.
Careful, ‘forcing others’ is kinda their thing, and don’t give them ideas,
in the chinese cultural revolution they killed pets as an indication of decadence.
Free emotional support puppies for them would traumatize the puppies.
Uh, in case you are out of touch, everyone hates the failing expensive obamacare voted in by dems alone.
It’s crap and just another attempt at wealth redistribution.
Not a single promise it made was kept. The state of healthcare in America has plummeted since it’s inception.
Way too much money going to dems favorite charity: rich insurance corporations. free this market!
The Bankster Known As Mark Carney is only getting one demand from Canadians: call another federal election rather than running the country using NDP votes that he bought with bribes paid to the communist NDP.
So the Obama’s signature accomplishment the Affordable Care act – makes Healthcare all the more unaffordable and your response is to pi$$ on republicans.
If you want something to be affordable – leave that to the free market – that is something that 9 out of 10 economist agreed on – atleast beforce left wing nuts started schilling iddiocy like MMT.
Regardless the problems with our system of healthcare will not be fixed until it is fully returned to the free market.
The same is true of education – one of the other huge areas that Government has succeeded in making both worse and more expensice.
As to PPACA – republicans need to return to repealing it.
It is an expensive boondoggle.
It has cost a fortune. resulted in massive fraud, and contributed nothing.
Republicans made sure the ACA wouldn’t succeed. They knew it works and they did not want it to work. Because they couldn’t stand the Isa that a Democrat could make healthcare affordable to everyone.
It’s the free market that is making it more expensive and less efficient. That’s why the government is spending so much in subsidies. Because the free market is not affordable
It wasn’t Republicans that caused the ACA to fail. It was the smoke and mirrors used in many different ways. The ACA was a failure from the onset. The ACA’s rules and regulations increased baseline premiums in the individual market. Subsidies insulated eligible enrollees from those higher prices, while unsubsidized middle-class buyers were required to pay the full, increased premiums. As a result, higher baseline pricing partially financed the subsidized coverage. Insurers benefited from the expanded, protected market, while many middle-class individuals paid far more than they would have under normal market conditions.
To make it clearer, in essence, higher premiums imposed on the middle class covered much of the cost of subsidized premiums.
That is just one of many reasons the ACA failed. Healthcare requires a true marketplace based on Hayekian principles.
Wrong! freeing the healthcare market from goverment’s grip reduces insurance profits through real competition.
The only plan we need is to END obummercare. That is all! that’s the whole plan!
Now the government doesn’t have that money of mine.
I know how to spend my money better than any government bureaucrat and right now insurance companies don’t care what I want because I’m not paying them. Thanks bringing up the subject AND for being SO wrong, X!
I just wanna know, Who Killed J.R.?
Release the Files!
(Who Shot J.R.? sorry for the misquote.)
A.I.: Dallas Who shot J.R. Ewing
Kristin Shepard (J.R.’s sister-in-law and mistress) shot J.R. Ewing on the iconic “Who Shot J.R.?” cliffhanger from the TV series Dallas. The mystery was revealed in the Season 4 premiere, “Who Done It?”, after a long summer of speculation, with Kristin framing J.R.’s wife, Sue Ellen, for the crime.
The Culprit: Kristin Shepard, played by Mary Crosby, was revealed as the shooter.
The Motive: She shot J.R. in a fit of rage and jealousy, and later tried to frame Sue Ellen, planting the gun in her closet.
The Revelation: The answer to the famous question was shown in the November 21, 1980 episode, which drew massive global viewership.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_shot_J.R.%3F
Dynasty (1981–1989) Cast THEN AND NOW 2024, Who Else Endures After 43 Years??
Sorry Lin, I was so taken by Linda Evens (of Dynasty) transformative picture that I confused Dynasty with Dallas
(Dallas being J.R. Ewing’s (Larry Hagman) TV Show.
My Mistake.
quickly (OT), I wouldn’t have known the difference, ha ha, didn’t watch either nor did I watch “Roots.” (I DID watch “The Thorn Birds”) however, after seeing your comment, I started laughing and looked up “who shot J.R.” and saw this, some of which I CAN relate to:
“”It was the talk of summer 1980. We were soft-rockin’ out to Christopher Cross’ “Sailing,” lining up to see “Airplane!” and “The Blues Brothers” (tickets cost a whopping $2.50) and watching Howard Cosell hosting “Battle of the Network Stars.”But the big question in entertainment was three simple words. Well, really, two words and two letters: Who shot J.R.?””
https://www.today.com/popculture/everyone-hated-him-do-you-remember-who-shot-j-r-822907
so much for my feeble attempt at levity.
Comments like these simply confirm that most of the regulars here are just a bunch of geriatric, grumpy old geezers with WAAAAAAYYYY too much time on their hands.
They are just sitting out on their metaphorical porches screaming at people to get off the lawn, and making a nuisance of themselves in the neighborhood.
I guess that’s why you,– old geriatric grumpy geezer, with too much time on your hands, were sitting on your metaphoric porch, with nothing better to do than scan all the comments here every single day and make dumb comments like yours was? Time to take a nap?
One of the simple pleasures in life is acting like kids playing on your lawn for the sole purpose of irritating you and provoking you into making stupid comments.
It never fails.
So much fun !!!!!!
you think that was a great comeback? Don’t think so. THe guy at 1:15 gets the point.
Says the grumpy old geezer sitting on his porch !!!!!
This is fun
Ben Franklin was 83 when the Constitution was adopted in 1789.
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“May you stay forever young.”
– Bob Dylan, 84
I’m looking for a real estate deal
Epstein’s Little St. James Island. Epstein bought the island for $7.95 million. I’ll make a $10 million dollar cash offer.
That is if I win tonight’s Power Ball. Take it or leave it.
If the Florida federal GJ returned a decision to indict (prosecute), and then Alex Acosta got together with Epstein’s lawyers covertly without informing the victims and hatched a Non-Prosecution Agreement (NPA), there has to be some checks and balances that weigh in favor of the Grand Jury over the individual prosecutor.
When a GJ votes to indict, the DoJ indictment should be automatic ( a formality).
Beware, though, the elites in the justice system are systematically disempowering Juries and Grand Juries. They use clever process tricks to countermand the decisions of ordinary Americans placed on these Juries. We are seeing the great system our Founders gave us (leaving matters of justice to juries of average Americans) being slowly dissolved, so that lawyers, prosecutors and Judges get to make the decisions instead.
I regret that you failed to mention that the 150+ pages of the DOJ’s Office of Professional Responsibility’s (OPR) Report found that the new CRVA was unclear/nebulous/deficient in many respects, and importantly, found that while Acosta exercised “poor judgement” in meeting its new standards, but found NO EVIDENCE of professional misconduct or corruption.
Unintentional Obfuscation Anonymous 10:25? Extends well into the use of defamation and Even without intent, the reality of “systematically disempowering Juries and Grand Juries” permeates the entire American Justice Systems — Federal, State(and Commonwealth), and Local, much of which was (and still is) receives funding of election and nomination through massive dark money laundering foundations that dominate such as the Open Society Foundation.
Reality:
As we saw in on Saturday evening, Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly effectively sealed the evidence in the government’s case against former FBI Director James Comey to prevent evidence of judicial process evidence leaking from Comey to Daniel Richman for intentional public “trial” through rumor, association, and negative contextual inference to attack political “enemies”.
The dismissal of a very rapid conviction by a jury of 12 by Minnesota Judge Sarah West in the $7.2MM Medicare Fraud case that benefited illegal and foreign interests with identified association to terrorist organizations.
Or, in case it could happen to you, the expenditure of all available defense funding by Michael Flynn – a long term, and greatly admired public service — who threw himself upon the sword to prevent his son from being flayed in the same manner.
Welcome to America
Defamation laws are irrefutably unconstitutional, evidently constituting a violation of, and abridging, the absolute 1st Amendment freedom of speech.
It is all to muddy the waters to protect Billy Boy.
Jeffrey Epstein had extensive and documented ties to powerful Israeli political and intelligence figures, primarily former Prime Minister Ehud Barak, through whom he helped orchestrate several state-level security and intelligence deals. These connections have led to ongoing speculation and reporting about his role within Israeli intelligence networks.
Key Connections and Activities:
Ehud Barak: Epstein maintained a close relationship with Ehud Barak, the former Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister, with whom he had business investments. Emails and documents show the two men were significantly closer than Barak publicly admitted.
Security Deals: Epstein was instrumental in brokering security and surveillance technology agreements for Israel with other nations, performing “state-level services”.
Côte d’Ivoire: Epstein and Barak worked together to sell Israeli surveillance technology to Côte d’Ivoire, a deal which led to an internal security agreement between the two countries in 2014.
Mongolia: He also facilitated a similar agreement involving the sale of Israeli military equipment and surveillance tech to Mongolia.
Diplomatic Backchannel: During the Syrian Civil War, Epstein helped establish a covert “backchannel” between the Israeli and Russian governments, facilitating meetings between Barak and Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss the ousting of Bashar al-Assad.
Intelligence Officer Presence: An Israeli intelligence officer, Yoni Koren (a long-time aide to Barak), stayed at Epstein’s Manhattan residence on multiple extended occasions between 2013 and 2015, including while serving in an official capacity.
Political Involvement: Epstein claimed to have been involved in Barak’s 2019 political campaign to challenge Benjamin Netanyahu for the prime minister position, writing to an associate, “I’m dealing with Ehud in Israel. Making me crazy”.
Intelligence Speculation and Media Coverage:
The nature of these activities has fueled the long-standing theory that Epstein was an intelligence asset, possibly for Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency, though this remains unconfirmed by official sources.
Reporters like Murtaza Hussain from Drop Site News, which published a series of investigative reports on the matter, suggest Epstein acted as an “asset” to advance hawkish Israeli foreign policy goals, rather than a formal agent.
The subject has been largely downplayed by major US media outlets, leading to criticism from some journalists and politicians who argue there is a “taboo” around discussing Epstein’s Israeli links.
Some former officials and commentators, including Tucker Carlson, have openly stated their belief that Epstein was working for Israel, while other sources deny he ever worked for the Mossad.
The full extent of Epstein’s relationship with Israeli intelligence remains a subject of intense speculation and ongoing investigation, with many believing the files released so far point to a deep, operational connection.
Jeffrey Epstein Claimed to Have Meddled in Israel’s Elections
https://jacobin.com/2025/11/epstein-barak-israel-elections-netanyahu
Re: (Good Read)
Jeffrey Epstein Claimed to Have Meddled in Israel’s Elections
https://jacobin.com/2025/11/epstein-barak-israel-elections-netanyahu
Venture to guess that Jeffrey Epstein had also ‘Meddled’ with the U.S. Elections, given the amount of frequent-flyer miles Bill Clinton racked up on the Lolita Express during that period. Most likely he was embedded in Hillary’s Election Campaign and the Clinton Foundation with his nefarious connections (from Publishers to Heads of State and Others) to provide delivery of Mrs. Madam President. Jeffrey Epstein can be synonymous with George Soros in the political-meddling of many Country’s internal affairs.
The cover-up Epstein’s involvement in American political affairs will never be fully disclosed if at all. TO be sure, He never had any qualms about doing the ‘dirty deeds’ of which his kabala wish to execute.
Unfortunately because of this, Ghislaine Maxwell will never see the day of light beyond the Chain-link Fence.
I do so want to see the “day of light [sic].”
“Critics accused Donald Trump of showing a distinct lack of empathy with his comments on the mass shooting at Brown University, in which two people were killed this weekend.”
Somebody thinks trump has empathy?
This is what the left has come to ?
Attacking people because they were not crying enough ?
Rob Reiner and his wife were murdered last night – likely by their son – how many tears must Trump cry for that ?
There was a major islamic terrorist event at Bondi Beach AU in which 100 jews were targeted and many killed.
What is the required amount of sobbing from the president for that ?
John Say,
“This is what the left has come to ?”
Yes. In their desperation to remain relevant, they whine and cry, rant and rave about how others are not as compassionate as they are . . . unless it was Charlie Kirk. Then they celebrate with glee.
Note, the first person to be name in the Brown university shooting was Ella Cook. It is being reported she was the VP of the school’s college Republican club. She was a parishioner of the Cathedral Church of the Advent. As a parishioners, she worked through church service engaging in the community.
“Rob Reiner and his wife were murdered last night – likely by their son – how many tears must Trump cry for that ?”
Maybe denouncing the murder would be a good first step instead of blaming Reiner for getting killed.
Trump hates Muslims, so I’m sure he will use the terror attack for good effect at home and blame the Somalis or Muslims at home.
You know, engage in some rage manufacturing and indifference. Presidential stuff like that.
Maybe denouncing your driven acid and bitterness in your comments to others would be a good first step for the rest of us.
And maybe opening an investigation into the origins.
Maybe denouncing the murder would be a good first step instead of blaming Reiner for getting killed. Trump hates Muslims…
Maybe ask yourself if you have any credibility that will help your lie that John Say blamed Reiner for being murdered by his son, George X.
And with your loathsome soul consuming hatred of both Trump and your host Professor Turley, you are the last person on the earth who has any credible idea of what Trump thinks of Muslims.
He does hate Islamic terrorists just as much as you and your fellow Democrat New Hitler Youth love and make excuses for hajji terrorists.
Imagine if you had the balls to buy a one way ticket to join your dear close friends who are those hajji terrorists.
Or could just continue to engage in feeding your inner rage by manufacturing more lies, denying, and deflecting. Shit-talking stuff like that.
“Maybe denouncing the murder”
This is a local Criminal case in LA. It is not an act of terrorism.
There were about 23,000 homocides in the US last year – do you want the president to denounce each individually ?
“Trump hates Muslims”
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/In-S6o45hqw
“I’m sure he will use the terror attack for good effect”
Possibly – but he does not need to.
These islamic terrorists have done that for him.
“You know, engage in some rage manufacturing”
Yup – just invent a terrorist attack out of thin air.
“Maybe denouncing the murder would be a good first step instead of blaming [Kirk] for getting killed.”
John Say,
“This is what the left has come to ?
Attacking people because they were not crying enough ?”
The right was attacking people for not crying enough for Charlie Kirk or expressing outrage the he was killed. Funny how that seems to have turned around?
The right was attacking people for not crying enough for Charlie Kirk
Without flat out lies, X would be nothing of substance other than the sound and smell of a fart.
All normal human beings, not just “the right” were expressing their disgust for vicious Democrat communists like X. Democrats who like X made a point of publicly showing their glee and exultation of Kirk’s murder.
And X spent days here afterward, lying that Kirk was murdered by a conservative or Christian – not by one of his fellow commie Democrats who hated Charlie Kirk just as much as X did for willingly engaging anyone in civil debate. When in fact, the murderer was one of X’s beloved Tranny Furry lovers from the Democrats’ Alphabet Sex Pride Tribe.
the left was attacked for celebrating Kirk’s assassination.
John Say, the left was attacked for not mourning hard enough for Charlie Kirk.
“Attacking people because they were not crying enough ?”
X, are you agreeing it’s good or agreeing it’s bad??
are YOU “Attacking people because they were not crying enough” too?
The left is the new moral-minority.
Somebody thinks trump has empathy
Anyone here think The Oval Office House Plant’s fellow kiddy fondling perverts in the Anonymous Bolshevik Birthing Boys have empathy for all the little kiddies they want to molest and trans so they can claim to be normal?
you just like saying all those words don’t you? obsessed even?
The problem with the “release everything” on Epstein is two-fold:
1) Epstein was a common figure in the New York social scene in the 1990s before any of this came out. While many people caught on that he was sleazy, most people had no idea the depths of his depravity. So being seen in the same room with Epstein would be normal for anyone in high society in 90s New York. You’ll notice the pictures with him and Trump were all from social gatherings in the 90s like these.
2) Like most upper-class criminals, Epstein hid his dirty money by laundering it through a legitimate front business. In this case, a financial services company. He would have his “special clients” invest through him. Like most sociopaths, Epstein could be quite charming and roped in plenty of people to invest in his financial services that were NOT his special clients. And again, this was back in the 90s before all of this came out.
So when they say “release the Epstein client list”, most people are thinking of the “special clients” that Epstein was trafficking young girls to, but the actual “client list” is the financial services company, which contains mostly people who didn’t do anything wrong. Unfortunately, this also means that people who were “special clients” get to either remain hidden or at least have “plausible deniability”.
The thing that concerns me is that there are many statements from victims that have come forward to say that Epstein was blackmailing people and that he had recorded sexual encounters with underage girls in order to do so. If those exist, then where the hell are they, because THAT would be proper evidence of malign behavior and those people should be prosecuted. There are rumors that the CIA confiscated them so that it could continue the blackmail of the people in question rather than let justice be served. But I want to know who those people are, and if Trump is one of them, he should be impeached and be hung with the rest.
As an aside: One thing to note about that picture of Trump with a bunch of women whose faces are blacked out: The Telegraph actually found the original, unredacted picture. All the women were in their 20s and were professional models doing an advertisement for a suntan lotion company at the time. The Telegraph even tracked one down and interviewed her: She was Trump was a perfect gentleman throughout. The Democrats blacked out their faces to try to imply that the women were underage and Trump was doing something untoward. That is extremely sleazy behavior from the Democrats and makes getting actual justice server that much harder because it means that every further piece of evidence they release must now be assumed to be a hoax, because they’ve already been caught doing so.
“Trump condoms that say “I’m huuuuge.””
I saw that picture! and though Trump must carry a pretty big Wallet.
(and Yes – I’m slightly traumatized)
Every time I see Samuel S. Jackson say: What’s in your wallet (for Capital One),
I think of my own Wallet and the Un-used Trojan Condom from 1978 and the distinct ring mark it has left in the leather hide along with a $2 dollar bill I was saving for emergencies.
I guess I’m going to have to up my game if I want to compete with the Big Boys.
Who are the pieces of xxxx that blurred the faces of adults in the photos? Names now.
Given the one-sided, inquisitional nature of a grand jury, it does seem that sealing the records makes good sense. An open trial is the correct venue for the disclosure of relevant evidence and testimony.
Another one-sided piece of garbage would be a grant of immunity to sidestep one’s Constitutional right to remain silent. Such a grant should be a two-way street: an offer that must be made AND accepted to be valid.
Tampering with exculpatory evidence of a criminal trial for political points, that’s who. The truth so hurts democrats so much that they must live in a fantasy world.
There is no bottom to their low.
“… just notorious association.”
When the Sh!t Hits the Fan – It’s called ‘Duck & Cover’
‘It’ is what ‘It’ Is – when you were there
DOJ Must Return Data Seized From Comey Confidant, Court Will Retain Copy: Judge
Prosecutors can seek a new warrant for the files, judge says.
The Department of Justice (DOJ) has been ordered by a federal judge to return everything it seized and obtained between 2017 to 2020 from a longtime confidant of former FBI Director James Comey, siding with the friend and plaintiff who said his constitutional rights had been violated when the materials in his possession were misused to investigate Comey. …
By: Melanie Sun ~ 12/14/2025
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/doj-must-return-data-seized-from-comey-confidant-court-will-retain-copy-judge-5957951
Alt:
[Link] zerohedge.com/political/doj-must-return-data-seized-comey-confidant-court-will-retain-copy-judge
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DC Pipe Bomb Arrest Raises Questions About Christopher’s Wray’s FBI
In one version – based on past comments by former FBI Director Christopher Wray – the arrest last week of Brian Cole Jr. as the individual who allegedly placed pipe bombs near the Washington, D.C., headquarters of the Democratic National Committee and Republican National Committee on Jan. 5, 2021, was the culmination of a dogged, five-year effort by the bureau.
In another version, suggested by Dan Bongino, the bureau’s deputy director, FBI agents revived a long-dormant case a few months ago, quickly tracking down Cole through an existing body of evidence, not from new information. At a press conference following Cole’s arrest last week, Bongino said he assigned a fresh team of investigators out of the Washington FBI field office about two months ago that “scoured [existing evidence] over and over and over and over again.” Key pieces of evidence gathered under the previous administration – including credit card purchases of components used to construct the devices, as well as cell phone and vehicle activity from Jan. 5 – led investigators to Cole. …
By: Julie Kelly – RealClearInvestigations, ~ December 12, 2025
https://realclearwire.com/articles/2025/12/12/dc_pipe_bomb_arrest_raises_questions_about_christophers_wrays_fbi_1153086.html
Alt:
[Link] zerohedge.com/political/dc-pipe-bomb-arrest-raises-questions-about-christopher-wrays-fbi
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these types of videos depicting Bill Clinton in uncompromising encounters with Jeffrey Epstein are taken down quickly by Youtube/Google. See it to believe it