“What’s in a Name?” Courts Could Face a Truly Shakespearean Question Over the “Trump-Kennedy Center”

 

 

“What’s in a name? That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet.” That question posed by Juliet in Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet seems to now occupy much of Washington. Last night at a Christmas party with many media from Washington, the question was put to me more succinctly and repeatedly as “can they do that?” The “that” was the renaming of the Kennedy Center as the Trump-Kennedy Center. Soon courts may have to face this quintessentially Shakespearean question “for never was a story of more woe.”

As a threshold matter, I will address the legal rather than policy basis for the change. Many of us chafed at the renaming of the Center, which was a memorial to an assassinated president. However, what people want to know is whether the change can be challenged. The answer is yes, but it will not necessarily be easy or certain in its outcome.

The Center was originally built as the National Cultural Center in a 1958 law. It was renamed the John F. Kennedy Center by an act of Congress in 1964 as a living memorial.

The key issue is how that designation was made. It was contained in a statute passed by Congress. Titled John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, 20 U.S.C. 3, states that “no additional memorials or plaques in the nature of memorials shall be designated or installed in the public areas of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.”

There are exceptions in sections 2 and 3 of the provision:

(2) Paragraph (1) of this subsection shall not apply to—

(A) any plaque acknowledging a gift from a foreign country;

(B) any plaque on a theater chair or a theater box acknowledging the gift of such chair or box; and

(C) any inscription on the marble walls in the north or south galleries, the Hall of States, or the Hall of Nations acknowledging a major contribution;

(3) For purposes of this subsection, testimonials and benefit performances shall not be construed to be memorials.

The language supports a congressional intent to insulate the memorial from any changes or dilutions. The specificity of the exceptions to plaques for donors suggests that other major changes, such as a name change, are barred under federal law. Moreover, the Center is named by an act of Congress. It is hard to find any authority of the board that would undo or delegate that power.

There is a legitimate question whether a name change is an “additional memorial or plaque,” but it would seem to be so. If a simple plaque to donors had to be expressly exempted, giant letters dedicating the Center to an additional person would seem to fall within the congressional intent.

Still, the Trump Administration could quote the servant Sampson from Romeo and Juliet and tell a court to “take it in what sense thou wilt” but the statute does not expressly say that name changes are a memorial.

Challengers could argue that, under the board’s interpretation, any memorial established by Congress, from the Lincoln Memorial to the Kennedy Presidential Library, could be renamed or hyphenated.

If a court agrees that the statute reflects a clear congressional intent to bar any change to the memorial, the question is how it can be challenged.

Kerry Kennedy, the daughter of Robert F. Kennedy and sister of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., announced that.

Three years and one month from today, I’m going to grab a pickax and pull those letters off that building, but I’m going to need help holding the ladder. Are you in? Applying for my carpenter’s card today, so it’ll be a union job!!!

I would not recommend that approach. Most attorneys strive to keep their clients from falling from great heights.

The question is who has standing to challenge the change. Are Kennedy family members injured in a concrete way to satisfy standing? Associational standing from historical preservation groups can be tricky. However, some may soon test those waters.

The most obvious way to address the issue is for Congress to be heard. It can either ratify the board decision or it could expressly declare the change to be invalid and clarify that “additional memorial” encompasses any name change. Either resolution may prove difficult with the heavily divided Congress. Soon a judge may join Romeo in his lament: O teach me how I should forget to think!

In any legal challenge, the advantage would likely rest with the challengers if they can meet the standing requirements. Otherwise, the name could remain by default … or until another Administration decides to make another change to the Center previously known as the Kennedy Center.

Of course, today Juliet might resolve the naming problem in a similar fashion with a hyphenated marital name of Juliet Capulet-Montague, though it clearly would have gone over as poorly as the Trump-Kennedy name. It clearly does not smell as sweet to many.

I expect both court and congressional action to follow. Absent a quick resolution by Congress (which seems unlikely), this could result in years of litigation.

However, both sides might be wise to heed Shakespeare’s warning in another play that “where two raging fires meet together, they do consume the thing that feeds their fury.”

N.B.: This column also ran on Fox.com

258 thoughts on ““What’s in a Name?” Courts Could Face a Truly Shakespearean Question Over the “Trump-Kennedy Center””

  1. The Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts must remain named as it is–in honor of a great US President who would’ve changed our nation in many great ways if he hadn’t been martyred by the CIA & their criminal cohorts. I was only 6 years old when JFK was murdered but I still remember where I was when the announcement came on our school loudspeaker. We, all 1,000+ students & our teachers, went to the parish church & prayed a Rosary for his eternal rest. Then we were sent home. An entire nation was traumatized by JFK’s terrible murder & loss. He deserves to not have to share his honor.

    1. Allan Dulles, John McCone, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello, Texas oilmen, the Mafia, Cuban exiles, select members of the military-industrial complex (i.e. the Deep State) the CIA, the FBI, Dallas Police et al. perpetrated the assassination of JFK.

    2. By no possible standard can JFK be called “a great President,” and by the “what he might have done” standard, James Garfield was a great President. JFK’s ineptitude almost started WWIII. The Center is his memorial and should stay that way, but jeez, read a book!

      1. His so-called presidency was less successful than the captainship of his PT boat, which was cut in half by a Japanese destroyer, killing and injuring much of his captive naval crew.

        What a tough assignment: Basically a high-powered ski boat in the South Pacific; not bad duty, eh, sailor?

        His son really piloted that plane well too.

        Those Kennedys died of overinflated egos and undersupplied contents in their cranial vaults.

      2. JFK

        His so-called presidency was less successful than the captainship of his PT boat, which was cut in half by a Japanese destroyer, killing and injuring much of his captive naval crew.

        What a tough assignment: Basically a high-powered ski boat in the South Pacific; not bad duty, eh, sailor?

        His son really piloted that plane well too.

        Those Kennedys died of overinflated egos and undersupplied contents in their cranial vaults.

        1. “His son really piloted that plane well too. ”

          You neglected to mention Teddy’s demonstrated talent for operating a motor vehicle after drinking, and his willingness to confront the consequences afterwards (i.e., negligent homicide).

  2. Turley says: “Are Kennedy family members injured in a concrete way to satisfy standing? Associational standing from historical preservation groups can be tricky” The AMERICAN PEOPLE are injured in a concrete way by the arrogance of a narcissistic draft-dodging election cheater that deigns himself important enough to put his name on a building ahead of a true American patriot–a patron of the arts, someone who used his family’s influence to ENTER the service after he flunked the physical, because he WANTED to serve. Unlike Trump, whose stupidity and arrogance causes people to die, Kennedy saved the lives of the men of PT-109 after it sank and burned. He swam for miles, towing one of his injured crew members, pulling him along by the straps of his life jacket he placed in his mouth. Our youngest president who was cut down by an assassin’s bullet. Contrast that with King Donald, who cheated his way into office by lying, cheated to AVOID the service, and who calls our brave military members “suckers and losers”; someone who wouldn’t attend a ceremony at a veterans cemetery because the misty rain would cause his pompadour to fall. Someone with the arrogance to fire the Board of the Kennedy Center, appoint himself chairman, and then have them vote to change the name, even though they don’t have that authority. Oh, and those who did not agree with this course had their phones muted so they not only couldn’t speak out against it–they couldn’t vote.

    Nope. There is no “Trump-Kennedy Center” any more than there is a “Gulf of America” or a “Department of War”. The temporary occupant of the People’s House doesn’t get to re-name things to his liking or tear down an entire wing of the White House to construct an impractical vanity project that NO ONE wants. As polls prove, we, the American people REJECT Trump and the ignoramus flunkies he has in his fake cabinet–the most-unqualified in US history–something they prove each and every day. AND, we WILL hold them accountable for murdering Venezuelan men in small boats thousands of miles from the closest American shore who couldn’t have been importing Fentanyl, because that comes from Mexico. Even if these people were smuggling drugs–they were headed for Europe, not the US. Just like the Epstein files, we’re not going to give up holding them accountable.

    1. The AMERICAN PEOPLE are injured in a concrete way by the arrogance of a narcissistic draft-dodging election cheater

      Gigi…we’re surprised you’re going to tell us everything you know about Bribery Joe Biden – with MORE draft dodging deferments than any American politician in history – and all of his 2016 and 2020 election cheating.

      Take it one paragraph at a time. And if you’re going to get into his stupidity… tell us about how the Secret Service has been carrying a diaper bag for The Oval Office House Plant for the last five years while he talks to dead people and calls his black administration officials his “boys”.

      But drop a couple of Valium first – with the state of incoherent rage you’re in while posting this, you’re likely to blow an artery in your already severely damaged prefrontal cortex and stroke out.

      We won’t mock you Gigi… promise!

    2. “The AMERICAN PEOPLE are injured in a concrete way by the arrogance of”
      So you do your best prove yourself wrong.

      The fact that you are offended is not concrete harm.
      It is not harm at all.
      You are free to be outraged by Trump.
      You are free to be outraged by your neighbors flowers.

      You are not free to do anything about it.

      Trump was constitutionally elected – Twice.

      And given that the 315K of Fraufulent ballots just found and admitted to by the Fulton County Election commission,.
      \A number that is remarkably close to the estimated illegal mailin ballots that True The Vote documented
      Trump almost certainly Won in 2020.

      At every turn we find Democrats lying cheating and stealing.

      Shame on you.

    3. “The temporary occupant of the People’s House doesn’t get to re-name things to his liking . . .”

      Actually, he does. Just as your darling Obama renamed Mount McKinley to Denali.

  3. “IT’S GOOD TO BE KING!”

    Courts don’t face a truly Shakespearean or any other type of question over anything.

    Courts comprise the “dictatorship of the juristocracy.”

    Courts simply “INTERPRET” into existence any reality they choose anytime they choose, no matter how preposterous.

    Courts write abjectly lengthy and indecipherable decisions, deliberately confounding and exhausting their entire audience of Americans, whereas the Constitution is written with an economy of words in succinct and evident clauses.

    Courts usurp and exercise executive power ad libitum.

    Courts usurp and exercise commander-in-chief power ad libitum.

    Courts usurp and exercise legislative power ad libitum.

    Courts hold dominion by their invincible power to “INTERPRET.”

    Incidentally, the word “interpret” does not appear in the Constitution, much less as a power conferred upon the judicial branch.

    1. Has the Judiciary become infected with a self-assessment of superior notions and the abandonment of reasoned interpretations of the Constitution and the laws there under? Surrendering to feelings of impertinence and turpitude to the actual law seems to be the cause celeb, {just go out the back door}, or the one that keeps coming back, regurgitating ‘I need more money’ to survive, you know it’s a tax, right? (Obama Care)!

      1. If the Supreme Court supported the Constitution, Obamacare would have been struck down before its initial “fake” passage.

        Article 1, Section 8, confers upon Congress the power to tax for ONLY debt, defense, and general welfare, (i.e. security and basic infrastructure that serves all or the whole).

        Obamacare is neither debt nor defense and serves individual, specific, and particular welfare, favor, and charity, distinctly not general welfare.

        Article 1, Section 8, does not confer upon Congress any power to regulate any facet, aspect, degree, or even scintilla of the medical or healthcare industry.

        The Supreme Court is a Supreme Jurisprudential Joke.

  4. The Center became a boorish blue-blooded venue. The previous leadership allowed the center to become run-down and needing of a desperate upgrade to remain an illustrious symbol of the American culture. It had tilted so far from center it no longer represented a majority of Americans. To naming rights, I have no bone to gnaw, but maybe it should be named Performing Arts Center of America, removing any mention of individuality. Squawking I’m assured would happen, so I propose building a Presidential Hall within the commons or just converting the Natural History Museum. To those that are {lady-dogging), JFK is recognized with one of the highest honors one nation can bestow, being buried amongst some the greatest who gave their life for The United States of America.

    Just one last comment, in my humble opinion the building is absolutely ugly, purely mid-century industrial, not at all fitting to represent a President.

    1. The previous Republican controlled House and Senate, you say, didn’t approve funds for the Kennedy Center?

      The Trump House will soon be on the former 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, renamed to 1 Trump Place in the District of Trump. All other streets will also be named Trump.

      Yes – per Trump, the Kennedy Center will be covered in gold leaf reproductions of his face, looming and glaring angrily at the America he detests.

    2. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Gloria Gaynor as an Honoree?????!!!!!

      A one hit wonder that just made Americans remember that Donald spent many nights with BFF Epstein at NYC disco clubs back in the day – you know, the photo of Donald and Melania and Epstein and Ghislaine all together at the club , no doubt listening to Gloria Gaynor !

  5. A lot of people still don’t believe that Donald Trump’s new drug plan with 600% price reductions will result in big pharma paying them to take their meds.

    How could they make a profit paying me $500 a month???

    It’s really not that complicated.
    These are big companies.
    They make it up in volume .

      1. If I have my doctor put me on a ton of meds for the 600% price rebate and I dump them down the toilet, is that fraud?

        1. I’m hoping for a life-threatening illness this Christmas, so I can get me a piece of these payments for taking drugs

          1. It’s time to get diagnosed with another chronic illness.
            What a great new income stream for when my job is taken by AI.

              1. Mortgage lender: I’m sorry you don’t have enough income to qualify

                Applicant:

                Mortgage Lender: Never mind…approved!

                1. I’m now taking so many drugs I can’t swallow them all.
                  I can’t pronounce most of them, even the non-catchy names they give them in commercials.
                  I sure can’t spell them.
                  But that influx of cash seems worth it!

                  1. The key to successfully taking advantage of the new Trump drug pricing is to make sure your doctor hasn’t put you on any generics.
                    Lower priced drugs will really lower your monthly drug rebate.

    1. How could they make a profit paying me $500 a month???

      Wait… you actually have to be paid a government entitlement to make your ends meet in order to be able to afford Obamacare? We thought you were actually saving money???

      We’re confused… you surely got the same promise the rest of us got from Obama and Biden: they specifically told you just like the rest of us, that you were going to save $2500 a year. And your medical bills were going to be so low they would look like your cellphone bill.

      We’re speaking today about names and monuments, and you want to talk about that monument to Bolshevik Barack – Obamacare.

      I’m willing to accept your wishful thinking of deflecting to the ruinous destruction that is Obamacare, that communist economic wrecking ball built on a foundation of Obama/Biden Democrat communist lies.

      So the government now has to bribe and provide guarantees to the few remaining Big Company health insurer’s willing to prop up Obama’s monument to the economic glory of communism. So use those bookkeeping skills of yours to tell us what is the percentage of profit margin those Big Company health insurers make by volume, serving to prop up Obama’s most defining monument, Obamacare.

      The baseline foundation secure profit for businesses is around 5% profit. The S&P 500 has been reliably running a bit above 5% for quite a while now.

      So give us some context to go with your desire to discuss how well Obamacare work with the volume of Big Company Obama Health Insurers:

      What’s the profit for these US health insurers that are helping your Obamacare survive and continue covering you (whatever the US taxpayer money funneled to Obama’s Obscenity is spent on)?

      They’re supposedly raping your Obamacare plan with the obscene profits they’re extracting from government to cover everything, aren’t they?

      Oil & gas extraction made about 13% in 2023
      Evil coal mining made 18%
      Mining in general made about 10%
      Hotels and other lodging services: 8%
      Livestock agriculture was about 17%
      Apparel and other fabric products was 5%
      Commercial machinery and computer equipment was 6%
      Insurance carriers other than health care was about 7%

      So tell us what the profit margin is for those health insurance companies raping Obamacare with what you pay that isn’t can’t covered with taxpayer freebees? Surely it’s higher than the S&P 500’s 5%????

      1. The S&P 500 is not a business. It’s a representation of the unsupported hopes that they are out of the market before the bubble bursts. Until then it is a mutual Ponzi scheme with pump and dump stock manipulations by corporations.

        Keep in mind that the Republicans want to return to policies that covered nearly nothing, with astronomical deductibles, at-will termination of policy holders for making claims, lifetime limits.

        The actual Obamacare had a universal coverage plan that the Republicans promised, if that was removed, they would support the PP-ACA bill. So it was removed and no Republicans voted for it. It would have been a single-payer, government backed insurance plan without the siphoning of health care funds to pay the health insurance company stock holders and the over-payed management, including the traditional health insurance death panels.

        1. Keep in mind that the Republicans want to return to policies that covered nearly nothing, with astronomical deductibles, at-will termination of policy holders for making claims, lifetime limits.

          “Nearly nothing” – meaning that unlike now, males weren’t covered for abortions, mammograms, and Pap smears?You’re going to lie to us that our polices covered nearly nothing? And yet, with such supposedly horrible health insurance policies, Bolshevik Barack had to strip us of those policies after promising “if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. Lyin’ Like A Biden won’t serve you well here.

          1. Keep in mind that Marxist Democrats are the only ones who pushed, connived, and cut deals with Democrat states to get the votes to pass the Obama Unaffordable Health Care Bankruptcy Act.

          2. Keep in mind that Obamacare was passed with 100% of Democrat votes – and not a single vote from a Republican.

          3. Finally, keep in mind that people as well as the Internet remember very clearly that Obama unleashed the Professional Democrat Liar named Jonathan Gruber to – like you – lie to Americans about Obamacare and “death panels” that never existed.

          Now… as you’ve cosplayed as an expert on health insurance under the Obama Unaffordable Health Care Bankruptcy Act – what annual profit are the few remaining insurance companies making who are willing to cover Obama’s genius Marxist health care plan?

          More or less than 20?
          More or less than 10%
          More or less than 5%
          More or less than 1%

      2. The S&P 500 is not a business. It’s a representation of the unsupported hopes that they are out of the market before the bubble bursts. Until then it is a mutual Ponzi scheme with pump and dump stock manipulations by corporations.

        Keep in mind that the Republicans want to return to policies that covered nearly nothing, with astronomical deductibles, at-will termination of policy holders for making claims, lifetime limits.

        The actual Obamacare had a universal coverage plan that the Republicans promised, if that was removed, they would support the PP-ACA bill. So it was removed and no Republicans voted for it. It would have been a single-payer, government backed insurance plan without the siphoning of health care funds to pay the health insurance company stock holders and the over-payed management, including the traditional health insurance death panels.

        1. The S&P 500 is not a business. It’s a representation of the unsupported hopes that they are out of the market before the bubble bursts. Until then it is a mutual Ponzi scheme with pump and dump stock manipulations by corporations.

          Oooohhhh the wailing lies of a communist Democrat – The S&P 500 is just more of The Evil Rich Who Don’t Pay Me My Fair Share! In the real world, the S&P 500 has done remarkably good since 2008, when Barack and The Marxist Democrats inflicted their Democrat Ponzi scheme on Americans – the Obama Unaffordable Health Care Bankruptcy Plan.

          And this is why you communist Democrats should NEVER be allowed anywhere near the taxpayer’s money – when you aren’t lying, you’re putting your economic ignorance on public display

          The S&P 500 (GSPC) has returned 365.6% since 2008.
          https://www.officialdata.org/us/stocks/s-p-500/2008
          “Since 2008 through today, the S&P 500 has averaged an annual return of approximately 11.22%, resulting in a cumulative return of about 548.35% by the end of 2025. When adjusted for inflation, the real return is around 8.66% per year.

          1. Keep in mind that Marxist Democrats are the only ones who pushed, connived, and cut deals with Democrat states to get the votes to pass the Obama Unaffordable Health Care Bankruptcy Act.

          2. Keep in mind that Obamacare was passed with 100% of Democrat votes – and not a single vote from a Republican.

          3. Finally, keep in mind that people as well as the Internet remember very clearly that Obama unleashed the Professional Democrat Liar named Jonathan Gruber to – like you – lie to Americans about Obamacare and “death panels” that never existed.

          Now… as you’ve cosplayed as an expert on health insurance under the Obama Unaffordable Health Care Bankruptcy Act – what annual profit are the few remaining insurance companies making who are willing to cover Obama’s genius Marxist health care plan?

          More or less than 20?
          More or less than 10%?
          More or less than 5%?
          More or less than 1%?

    2. American pharmaceutical companies are private property as free enterprises, and Congress has no power to regulate the businesses or the industry.

      The only statutory laws that may address these companies relate to property damage and bodily injury.

      These free and free-market concerns would be well advised to self-regulate to ensure against damaging litigation.

      The Constitution, by intent and design, provides maximal freedom to individuals, such as the scientists and entrepreneurs who produce pharmaceuticals, while it severely limits and restricts government.

      They are only the communists who believe themselves in positions of dictatorship.

      If the Supreme Court supported the Constitution, these corporations would be free and self-regulated.

      Incidentally, in America, the Land of the Free, substance ingestion is a right and freedom per the 9th Amendment, which cannot be denied by statutory law, whereas driving a motorized vehicle while under the influence or otherwise acting in a manner threatening to others may be addressed by statute.
      _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

      9th Amendment

      The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

  6. 1. It is sad watching Turley be unwilling to say that Trump did something illegal. This one is easy.
    2. Standing is easy. A member of the Kennedy family would, or any federal employee fired for using the correct name.

  7. Supposedly, only the victim’s names have been redacted in the released Epstein files for their protection.

    Apparently, one of the victims has a name that is 37 pages long.

        1. I have a friend with a name that is 119 pages long.
          I am so glad that the victims are being protected.

        2. C’mon you guys, I can only continue this clever conversation I’m having with myself for only so long. Gimme some help here – I’m already stretching my intellect and conversational abilities to my limits, already.

    1. Why didn’t y’all ask Joe Biden “The Great” to release the Epstein files?

      Who was president in 2005 when Epstein was first exposed?

      Did the Supreme Court “interpret” the evidence to let Epstein off?

      What does President Trump have to do with the extended life of the Epstein scandal?

      There are many multiple names related to this affair.

  8. If the President is blocked by the present measures from addition of his name to the Center, he might explore what is possible under the 1906 American Antiquities Act, as amended and codified in U.S.C. Title 54.
    54 U.S.C. § 320301 – U.S. Code – Unannotated Title 54. National Park Service and Related Programs § 320301. National monuments
    (a)Presidential declaration.–The President may, in the President’s discretion, declare by public proclamation historic landmarks, historic and prehistoric structures, and other objects of historic or scientific interest that are situated on land owned or controlled by the Federal Government to be national monuments.

    The optics seem to be that he takes umbrage at the condition and operations of the Center from the application of woke rot. Hence preserving the historical value of the Center by “trumping” its memorial status by making it a monument. Issues remain. One is that the Secretary of the Interior is dependent on Congress to budget funds to operate the Center as a monument. It appears that the reach of the statute extends to every part of the United States except Wyoming:

    d)Limitation on extension or establishment of national monuments in Wyoming.–No extension or establishment of national monuments in Wyoming may be undertaken except by express authorization of Congress.

    The foregoing is offered tongue in cheek.

    1. Enjoy some of the most garbage presentations at the Kennedy Center for the next few years. There’s a reason there aren’t any Conservatives doing world tours.

  9. I agree with a majority of commenters here today that the legislative intent for the Kennedy Center did not contemplate the addition of another name to its dedication. I would vote to leave the name as is.
    I also do not believe that the legislative intent contemplated the term “cultural” to mean the gross OVER-representation of minority interests such as the LGBTQ+ and drag community in performances, events, and displays, -relative to the general population’s interests, values, and traditions.

    A NEW USE FOR “DITTO:”
    Therefore I propose that the Trump Administration raise private funds to create a look-alike building right next door to the Kennedy Center, display a YUGE arrow with the word, “DITTO” pointing toward the Kennedy Center (like the funny Christmas lights video)
    name the new building the Trump Center for the OutPerforming Arts, –and then focus on a BALANCED agenda of programmed performances, events, displays that are more attuned to/with general representational populations.

    thus spaketh lin.

    1. “cultural” also does not mean “whatever the president wants and only what the president wants”.

      1. I believe the President spoke on behalf of the entire, unanimous Board (and its actions), not himself.

        I note that both Obama and Biden made a significant number of appointments
        https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/26/president-biden-announces-key-appointments-to-the-board-of-trustees-of-the-john-f-kennedy-center-for-the-performing-arts/
        and
        https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/11/21/president-obama-announces-more-key-administration-posts
        “Each president typically selects individuals to reflect their values and priorities in the arts and culture sector.” (From Search Assist)

        1. (p.s., JFK was NOT an advocate for LGBTQ rights, despite pressing efforts from F. Kameny over the years; no action until 1965, more than two years after JFK’s death.)

        2. The board muted the members who tried to vote against.

          The difference is that Trump doesn’t value the performing arts. If he’s not the center attraction, he doesn’t want it.

          1. Ex-officio board members of the Kennedy Center (e.g., Rep. Joyce Beatty) do not have voting rights. Please look it up.

  10. Good thing Keystone Kash had the shooter’s father turn him in on the Kirk case, and a homeless guy solved the Brown case for him, or nobody would ever get caught anymore.

    In both cases Keystone Kash very quickly announced they had the shooter, only to admit he was wrong.

                  1. But you obviously love me having a conversation with myself, just as much as I love myself having my clever conversation with myself. I love me, don’t you get it?

                    You’re afraid to admit Keystone Kash will never measure up to the brilliance and integrity of either Christopher Wray or James Comey as Democrats’ FBI Directors.

        1. Kash would struggle to catch a cold in winter

          How odd is that! It was Christopher Wray, not Patel, that couldn’t find a terrorist pipe bomber with the evidence they had for over FOUR YEARS. This looks like Democrats cosplaying as the old drive-in theaters, not just as tranny women.

          Projection:
          Channeling one’s actions onto others typically refers to the psychological concept of projection, where an emotionally disturbed individual unconsciously or deliberately attributes their own thoughts, feelings, personal failings and anti-social or criminal behaviors onto someone else.

          This is an internal defense mechanism which allows that mentally ill person to avoid confronting their own behavior and guilt by seeing it instead as as the thoughts and actions of another person who they despise and hate.

          1. hullbobby
            Apparently it doesn’t take much to keep a simpleton like you amused.
            Perhaps you should try leaving your mother’s basement once in a while.

              1. K
                Perhaps you too should consider getting out of your mother’s basement every now and again.
                Or are you confined somewhere for your own protection.

      1. They had 1500 people who actually did damage at the Capitol Building and made physical threats against lawmakers and the Vice President to track down rather than going after a guy for making non-functional fake bombs in a non-violent bipartisan protest.

    1. Good thing Keystone Kash had the shooter’s father turn him in on the Kirk case

      That offends you because you miss having Meritless Garland and Winsome Wray (questioning), unable to convince the father of The First Felon Bagman Son to permit them to prosecute his son as the one man crime wave he had become since daddy became VP back when Trump wasn’t around to blame.

      They were real troopers because they loyally covered and hid Biden White House Crime LLC for the entire four years they served under the senior partner in that White House crime cartel?

      The Garland/Wray FBI that couldn’t find a terrorist planting pipe bombs in Washington DC for four years – but could diligently track down every granny who trespassed on the Senate lawn for a few moments to take a selfie? And yet Patel (such an idiot….) managed to do it within months with evidence they’d had the entire time.

      And all while being distracted by finding all the hidden evidence of Democrat felonies and malfeasance hidden throughout FBI headquarters that Meritless Garland and Winsome Wray (questioning) had forgotten to destroy after hiding it from Congress for eight years!

      The Garland/Wray FBI that didn’t find and jail a single one of the Democrats’ street thugs in Antifa and Black Liars & Marxists who engaged in a two day assault on the White House, complete with attempts to murder Secret Service and Capitol police with weapons specifically designed with the attempt to kill like Molotov Cocktails?

      You hate Patel because he doesn’t perform as your beloved Meritless Garland and Winsome Wray (questioning) did for four years…

      1. How can someone not say 1985 called and wants its jokes back to this? Then again that’s a 1985 joke so there’s that. Party on!!

    2. K$h buddy is always wrong. He just has to realize his only cuck life responsibilities are about getting his girlfriend’s drunk ass home on private planes. Probably gets him a handy once a month. Other times it’s definitely getting slippery with the palm sisters.

  11. History will regard Turley as being as morally reprehensible as Roy Cohn and Joe McCarthy, just with slightly better table manners.

    1. This is one thing I do appreciate about you – your proof of rage baiting that JT always discusses and references in his articles. Truely confirming it on an almost daily basis as the reason for living to many.

  12. Dear Poof Turley,

    The Trump-Kennedy [Memorial?] Center For Performing Arts! The thing itself speaks .. . Res ipsa loquitur.

    *congress is busy right now . .. you’ll have to call back ltr.

  13. Whose idea was this, and why? Speaking from common sense, when a person or place of historical notoriety has been honored with the official/memorial naming of buildings or centers, and enough time has passed, just leave the afore-named monuments alone: much like the Civil War statues that [should never be removed] but remind us of history, not politics, the Kennedy Center should remain so named without a tacky add-on, which does Donald John Trump NO justice.

    The naming of the Ballroom is another matter, and in this case it appropriately can, and should, be named for Trump. Trump’s place in History is more than solidified. He (and his administration) just doesn’t need to do this; they don’t need to step on toes or fight pickaxes and unions any more than necessary to ensure his legacy. He will be remembered in history much like a Caesar—there’s just no need to sully his legacy with this kind of petty-ingression.

    1. I agree. What l also see is that Trump is a builder. That makes me think of Ramses ll. That pharaoh was probably the most prolific builder of them all. And like our President, demonstrated a lively interest in being remembered. And he was a deal maker. He and Hatushili lll of the Hittite Empire made the peace Treaty of Kadesh after the 1259 BC battle there. It is displayed at the U.N.

    2. They weren’t “Civil War statues”. They went up to warn the Black Americans asking for their civil rights to be respected that they, the White Southerners, controlled the towns they were erected in. Putting them up was an affront to the United States as those they represent died defending the Confederacy to preserve the institution of forced labor camps. They were the forefront of a terror campaign.

      Trump’s place is certainly cemented. A three time adulterer with a string of business frauds behind him, he will long be remembered as the one who was so ineffective at dealing with covid that the USA was a leader among 3rd world nations for the greatest per-capita death rate. He will be recalled as the one President so insecure in the judgement of the American people that he sent forces to obliterate the democratic vote. He was the first President to have a Confederate battle flag waving inside the Capitol building.

  14. *. DJT might thank the Board in a dignified manner and then decline the honor by saying wonderful compliments graciously about JFK and Jacqueline leaving it as is for tradition’s sake and history.

    Kerry Kennedy’s blurt is brutish and violent. A hatchet or pickaxe is in keeping with dem characters.

    Advice, graciousness is appropriate President Trump. Call the ballroom the Trump Ballroom.

    1. LOL your post made me laugh. I am sure he demanded the change from many of his sycophants on the board. Besides “graciousness” is not in his DNA. LOL

      1. Yes, the slimy backroom dealings of the Obama/Biden sycophants which resulted in many Trump associates, supporters, and various performers identified as conservative being “disinvited” from Kennedy center events is much easier to both defend and push with the Democrat-Mainstream Media Marxist Propaganda Complex.

        That has much more Democrat trademark graciousness to it – like the gracious hospitality of giving a serial pedophile and rapist like Harvey Weinstein eight years of hanging around in the White House, having the honor of tucking himself in to the Lincoln Bedroom on sleepovers along with whoever he brought along with him. Oops… 16 years in total of Democrat gracious hospitality for that Democrat serial rapist and pedophile in America’s White House.

        Now THAT’s social graciousness – Democrat style. Now THERE’S a real big LOL for ya!

        And no, I don’t support or defend the name change for multiple reasons, whoever and whatever it originated from.

  15. If I were JFK and came back to earth for a day, I would try and get that incredibly hideous bust of me removed.

    1. No kidding omfk. The man made of clay. The bust is made of daubed clay using the thumb and then a bronze cast. Caste? However it’s spelled. It does look bubbled as corrupted flesh… 😏. How bout that pyramid at the louvre…

  16. Trump has commission a sculpted bust of himself to replace the JFK Bust in the Oval Office and will add his bust (four times life size as to match the others) to the Chicago Merchandise Mart Hall of Fame of which Joseph Kennedy commissioned them in 1953. He may also add the bust of Elon Musk to the group.

    His bust (and Elon Musk’s) will be placed along side of:
    Marshall Field (Marshall Field’s)
    Frank Winfield Woolworth (F.W. Woolworth Company)
    Aaron Montgomery Ward (Montgomery Ward)
    Julius Rosenwald & Robert Elkington Wood (Sears, Roebuck and Co.)
    John Wanamaker (Wanamaker’s)
    Edward Albert Filene (Filene’s)
    George Huntington Hartford (A&P Grocery)

    https://chicago-outdoor-sculptures.blogspot.com/2007/11/merchandise-mart-hall-of-fame.html

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyg/170807829/in/photostream/lightbox/

  17. To put it bluntly, I simply don’t care what they call it and I suspect many people born after his assassination don’t either. I have never understood the reverence for the Kennedys. It was a national tragedy he was assassinated, end of story for me.

    1. The Kennedys had surface appeal because of their good looks, and that sold newspapers and magazines, which was enough for the media to cover over any of their less palatable conduct such as JFK’s and Ted’s pernicious womanizing. So the media constructed a virtual reality world they called Camelot, and they and much of America ended up believing it was the real world. In reality JFK was a mix of good and bad. And to listen to his speeches now, such as on tax policy, you’d almost think he was a conservative Republican.

      1. I agree with your realistic appraisal of the brief Kennedy administration, oldman. And there’s that Bay of Pigs nightmare…

      2. NotSo Old: Good comment there, thanks.
        ( I also believe that the “Camelot” reference ushered in a new platform/stage for Hollywood voices, who have since taken on exaggerated and highly-visible roles in attempts to shape U.S. policies. Think Jane Fonda, Rob’t DeNiro, Scorsese, Rob Reiner (tragic as his death is/was).

    2. Kojac says: I would ask your forbearance to understand and respect the melancholic thoughts of those who came before you, just as someday, those who follow you may be insouciant to your memories. I was a young cop in NYC in the 1960s when I was assigned to visit a family in Harlem whose child had written to the then-Senator Robert F. Kennedy. I went to a tenement in Harlem, and there I met a 12-year-old girl who told me about things at her school that bothered her. I have forgotten the substance of her complaints but I stil remember how proud her mom was as we spoke. More interesting was a large memorial photo of JFK on the wall and plastic flowers in a vase underneath. For you and your generation, JFK may be just a historical figure with a sad ending, but for many others, including this old retired cop and that once-young black girl, he meant a lot more, and the Kennedy Center would do well to find some other way to thank the President for his generosity and assistance.

  18. This is way more important of an issue than the need to stop WWIII in Europe or the Taiwan Strait, the housing affordability crisis, or America’s spiraling debt. Therefore, I can see why it would be worth the cost to fund protracted litigation to argue over it.

    1. Exactly! There are way too few buildings, monuments, statues, squares and corners WITHOUT Trump’s name on them. I propose we start honoring President Trump’s amazing accomplishments properly. He is after all already the greatest president of our time and he’s just getting started!
      I had doubts he would actually be able to make america great again, it’s a tall order, but he has and it’s awesome! Thank you President Trump!

  19. Recently I traveled to Las Vegas with friends. Upon arriving at the airport for departure I noticed the sign welcoming me to the Harry Reid International Airport. I can think of very few more despicable characters less deserving of such a monument. I recognize others might disagree with me and offense, as beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. In time, the memory of Harry Reid will fade and someone else, hopefully more deserving will take his place. In this life, such things are temporary.

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