The new J6 Committee has started its hearings and, unlike the prior Committee, Republicans have allowed Democrats to select members to sit in opposition. That has led to sharp exchanges, but one of the more interesting occurred between Rep. Harriet Hageman (R., Wyo.) and Jamie Raskin (D., Md.). After Hageman got a witness to admit that no one was charged with incitement, Raskin made the clearly false statement that a few defendants charged with seditious conspiracy was the same thing as incitement. It is not.
Rep. Raskin triggered the confrontation by making a clearly false claim about one of those charged by the Biden Administration: “I would just commend to everybody the testimony of Pamela Hemphill, who was a convicted insurrectionist that was pardoned. She rejected her pardon.”
In reality, Hemphill was charged (like most of the rioters) with relatively minor misdemeanors. She pleaded guilty to one count of demonstrating, picketing, or parading in a Capitol building and received just 60 days in prison, 36 months of probation, and a $500 fine for restitution. She was never charged with insurrection or any felony.
Rep. Hageman pounced on the comment and asked former Justice Department prosecutor Michael Romano whether any January 6 protester had actually been convicted under the federal insurrection statute.
Romano tried to dodge the question but admitted that no one, not Trump nor any rioter, was ever charged with insurrection. Notably, after January 6th, there was a great amount of coverage on Trump and his aides being possibly charged with insurrection or incitement. Despite some of us noting that the speech was clearly protected under the First Amendment, the press portrayed such a charge as credible and heaped coverage on District of Columbia Attorney General Karl Racine, who announced that he was considering arresting Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Rudy Giuliani, and U.S. Rep. Mo Brooks and charging them with incitement. It never happened. The reason is obvious. It could not be legally maintained.
While the FBI launched a massive national investigation, it did not find evidence of an insurrection. While a few were charged with seditious conspiracy, no one was charged with insurrection.
The Supreme Court later reduced charges further by rejecting obstruction charges in some cases.
Yet that did not stop members and the media from repeating the false mantra that this was an insurrection, despite some of us immediately rejecting it as legally unsustainable. Indeed, Democrats used the false claim to seek to disqualify Trump and dozens of Republicans from ballots.
Now back to the hearing.
Hageman asked the witness, “Mr. Romano, did you prosecute anyone related to January 6th for engaging in an insurrection?” she asked. Romano responded, “No, congresswoman.”
That is when Raskin objected and tried to interrupt the confirmation that, in fact, there never was an insurrection or any such charges.
Hageman persisted, “So, Mr. Raskin’s statement that someone was a ‘convicted insurrectionist’ is actually inaccurate, isn’t that correct?” When Romano again tried to pivot, she pressed further, “She wasn’t a convicted insurrectionist, was she?”
“For the crime of insurrection, no,” he admitted.
Raskin shouted, “Do you accept seditious conspiracy as insurrection?”
It was a telling statement. For the record, I have long been a critic of sedition crimes. As I discuss in my book “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage,”sedition was a noxious import from Great Britain. British judges had balked at the effort to accuse citizens of treason for things like telling bawdy jokes about the queen in some pub.
However, putting that aside, the handful of charges for seditious conspiracy are not legally the same or even close to an insurrection charge. Rep. Raskin, a former law professor, must know that.
The provision in 18 U.S.C. 2384 has long been controversial because it is so sweeping and includes any effort “by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law.” While the provision can also entail an intent to overthrow the country, the provision covers any interference with federal proceedings or laws.
Ironically, Raskin opposes the invocation of the Insurrection Act in cities like Minneapolis on the basis of the interference with federal officials in the enforcement of federal law. However, he seems to view this provision as endlessly malleable, so that anyone accused of hindering the execution of a federal law is an insurrectionist.
After January 6th, Justice Department official Michael Sherwin publicly declared that “our office wanted to ensure that there was shock and awe” in hitting people with a maximal level of charges. Yet, despite that “shock and awe” effort, not a single charge for insurrection was ever brought — an inconvenient truth for members like Raskin.
None of this excuses the outrageous riot that occurred on that terrible day. However, seeking to conform the criminal code to the political narrative serves neither the Congress nor the public.
Jamie Raskin is a rookie at this. In a “hold my latte and watch this” moment, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries threatened the entire Trump administration with future Pelosi inspired Soviet-style political show trials. Trials where, like Lavarentiy Beria, Fanny Willis and Jack Smith, they would change the existing law to prosecute all Trump administration and law enforcement personnel once back in power:
To all members of the Trump administration, the incitement and engagement in state violence against the American people is a serious crime. Donald Trump will leave office long before the five-year statute of limitations expires. You are hereby put on notice.
Every single one of these people who we see brutalizing the American people, they’re gonna be held accountable one way or the other, accordance with the law. And the statute of limitations, this is for every single member of the Trump administration, is five years. There’ll be a lot of people in this country, patriotic people determined to make sure those who broke the law with impunity during the Trump administration are held accountable.
The Trump Administration should be thankful this isn’t Cuba – like Castro, Hakeem Jeffries would simply have Jack Smith line them all up in a soccer stadium and shoot them.
Trump is suggesting American boots on the ground in Venezuela and Greenland – without legal permission from Congress. Maybe this should be the top priority? Protecting American troop casualties in a nation-building exercise.
Not long ago, Trump suggested annexing Canada as the 51st state. Pretty liberal and radical plan.
Well, if Minnesota drives out federal agents so that Walz, Frey, and Omar don’t have to be investigated for fraud, then my advice is for Virginians to invent the Free State of Middle Virginia and tell the D.C. suburbs that their politicians in Richmond better get out or else.
If the trolls think that’s absurd, they lack any self-awareness. The Democrats are becoming the party of anarchy and don’t have the accountability to admit it.
The Democrats are becoming the party of anarchy, AGAIN… there, fixed it.
Trump is suggesting American boots on the ground in Venezuela and Greenland
Over six months ago after Trump destroyed the nuclear weapons facility that Obama and Biden financed and paid for, you said Trump was suggesting he’d have American boots on the ground in Iran. Particularly when he hadn’t got legal permission from Congress to start what you claimed would be World War Three.
This should be an easy question: where’s that war that you and the execrable liar Jamie Raskin promised us in Iran?
Anon
Shhhhhhh….Top Secret.
America already has boots on the ground in Greenland. Has had for years…they are at these secret installations called bases that were agreed to at the end of WW II. Shhhhh…don’t tell anyone.
If Raskin were still teaching,* I would love to sit in on one of his classes and ask him, “Please articulate the legal distinction between Minnesota protesters who are throwing bricks, rocks, and lighted fireworks at ICE police officials and kicking in, destroying their vehicles, as well as violently trying to push past ICE personnel and physical barriers to break into ICE property…..and the January 6 protesters.
(* a professor of constitutional law at American University’s Washington College of Law for more than 25 years. https://raskin.house.gov/about)
(I meant to add the language of the cited 18 USC 2384, “…or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof…
I further note that “seizure” of government property would include conversion by destruction, as is true in other applications of law.
Lin, every single one of them acts and speaks like the J1 assault on the White House, attempting to breach Secret Service and Capitol police lines with Molotov Cocktails and other lethal weapons in order to get inside to murder Trump, never actually happened. Raskin, Jeffries, et al memory-holed it while it was happening and Biden was encouraging them by telling Americans they were a “courageous group of Americans”.
This is a rhetorical question of course: do you think these constitutional law professors like Jamie Raskin and Professor Turley, who memory holed the J1 assault on the White House, are suddenly going to develop uniform standards to apply to political violence? Either in their words about the violence or their actions?
J1, like the months of violent rioting in Democrat strongholds across the USA during the election campaign, was just “mostly peaceful protesting”.