“It’s Going to Get Really Serious”: Liberal Influencers Discuss Public Trials and Court Expansion After Democratic Takeover

Former CNN correspondent Jim Acosta spoke with popular podcaster Jennifer Welch, discussing the plans for radical changes after a Democratic takeover this year. Like many Democratic figures, they said that the expansion of the Supreme Court is obvious. The expansion is essential to clear away any restraints on a radical agenda that will include the trial of a host of conservatives, from Trump to the young former DOGE employee who was injured when he came to the rescue of a woman in a carjacking in Washington, D.C.

What was most notable in the interview was the priority of expanding the Supreme Court. Figures like Eric Holder have expressly stated that packing the Supreme Court with a liberal majority will be the priority after any Democratic takeover.

This has long been the plan among far-left figures, but it is now being embraced by establishment figures as essential to securing a radical agenda to achieve lasting power.

Years ago, Harvard professor Michael Klarman laid out a radical agenda to change the system to guarantee Republicans “will never win another election.” However, he warned that “the Supreme Court could strike down everything I just described.” Therefore, the court must be packed in advance to allow these changes to occur.

Recently, Democratic strategist James Carville laid out the step-by-step process of how the pack-to-power plan would work.

“I’m going to tell you what’s going to happen,” he said. “A Democrat is going to be elected in 2028. You know that. I know that. The Democratic president is going to announce a special transition advisory committee on the reform of the Supreme Court. They’re going to recommend that the number of Supreme Court justices go from nine to 13. That’s going to happen, people.”

Acosta and Welch, however, added a Jacobin touch by demanding trials for a wide range of conservative figures — a call that has been echoed by Democratic members promising impeachments and investigations.

Welch, who appears to be auditioning for the role of Madame Lafarge, insisted:

“The blue tsunami means that Congress is going to haul Elon Musk, ‘Big Balls,’ and a bunch of other people’s a– in front and say, ‘What crimes did you commit?’ And it’s going to get really serious. And the same with Trump because I believe, and this is just my opinion, that Trump and all of the bottom-feeding morons surrounding him and Elon Musk and all the bottom feeding clinger-onners that surround him, I think they commit crimes every day.”

In my forthcoming book, Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution, I discuss how elected officials often try to enlist mobs to advance their political agendas — only to be consumed by the unrest they helped fuel. This yielding to a “mobocracy” was one of the critical dangers that the Framers sought to deter through protections against majoritarian tyranny.

What is most notable is the warning to establishment figures who are dismissed as “integrity Democrats” who might be squeamish about doing the things that must be done to political opponents. As always, Welch was the face of unrequited rage:

“And I think to reconcile all of this is going to take hardcore — not ‘integrity Democrats – ‘F–k you Democrats’ … ‘F–k you for f–king over our country.’ We are serious about this. We are prosecuting. We’re going to uncover every document, every phone call, everything you did. We will be relentless about it. And that’s the mindset they’ve got to have because I think the electorate is going from, ‘We’ve got to get him out, but also we want accountability.’”

With “integrity Democrats” out of the way, the left will be able to change the system to guarantee not just a radical agenda but permanent power, as explained by Klarman. It is a chilling and ironic prospect on the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the author of the forthcoming “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution,” which will be released on Feb. 3 as part of the celebration of the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

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  1. The Fed-firing case in three steps
    Like the still-pending tariffs case, Wednesday’s oral arguments in Trump v. Cook will attract attention far beyond the usual court-watchers. The president’s attempt to fire a Federal Reserve governor raises enormous questions for global markets and American law – all the more so after the latest news of a Justice Department investigation of Fed Chairman Jerome Powell, and Powell’s denunciation of it. When the justices gather to hear oral arguments, the world will be watching.
    By: Adam White ~ on Jan 19, 2026
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    Trump v. Cook: an explainer
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    Ref.:
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  2. So, lets recap: Democrats in the past have laid out an agenda to guarantee Republicans “will never win another election.” But they have to pack the SC with liberals to ensure that happens. So, what they are advocating for is one party rule.
    As the good professor points out, Democratic strategist James Carville reiterated that this week. So, it was not a one off thing.
    Now, Welch and Acosta want trials for crimes people have supposedly committed. So much for innocent till proven guilty. IF there were to be trials, likely Stalinesque like trials like the clown show that was the Jan6th committee (the first one).
    Sounds totalitarian to me. Brought to you by, the far leftists Democrat party.

    1. USF
      Glaringly obvious as to CNN’s root bias problem. Acosta was always a liar, a liberal activist acting as a journalist.

      1. I said nothing about “Trails.” I said, “trials.” I said nothing about election fraud. Just that Democrats have said, to guarantee Republicans “will never win another election.” What does that look like? No idea. You would have to ask one of these far leftist Democrats. Yes, it is nonsense. But unfortunately there are a lot of Democrat dupes who listen to these two idiots and believe them. Those dupes are the same ones who attend “No Kings” protests. Those dupes are the same ones who believe that ICE is making US citizens disappear. No. Those are illegals, many of which are some real criminals. But the dupes want to protect them and assail ICE.

    2. Upstatefarmer can’t tell the difference between fact and opinion. A few Democrats making predictions and claims that are not guaranteed to happen seem like absolute full proof that all of them believe that. Poor upstatefarmer, he’s been in the conspiracy theory business way too long.

  3. Many long-time democrats are confused at what they are seeing with the ‘progress’ of their party.
    Let me explain. The ‘progress’ previously discussed was left purposefully vague in order to evade revealing it’s true purpose; Communist revolution.
    Those strings are being pulled from many corners of the world by like-minded communists everywhere.
    If it’s confusing you didn’t read the instructions they handed out and you haven’t ‘read between the lines’ enough to ‘get it’ so now the communists’ “wink-wink” is becoming screeching.
    Where did you think they were ‘progressing’ to? You better fall in line!
    Sheesh! Some of the useful idiots need it explained to them like they are five.

    1. And the Terror to be backed by Biden’s gift of new “citizens” from hither and yon protected by judges that have protected the “newcomers” by tortured interps of due process. Bill Hill

      1. And those new citizens would not realize that they have become the useful idiots that turned this country into one exactly like the hellhole from where they fled.

  4. YAAAAAWWWWWWN.

    God, Turley – come up with a new shtick – would you, please? I am so sick and tired of hearing boring Republicans like yourself warning us that “If Democrats take back power they will do X, Y or Z!” Obama was going to steal all the guns. Biden was going to blow up the fillibuster AND expand the court. Sure, sure. Firstly – you give the Dems WAY too much credit to try something big and bold. Secondly – you would FAR prefer to play fearmonger about what the Dems MAY do in some fantastical dream future rather than face the harsh reality that you play daily sycophant to the dictator who is destroying the fabric of our country both home AND abroad. But i get it – you need to sell your books – so do, go on….

    1. Dude, he’s a lifelong Democrat! He’ll be one of those moderate democrats these radicals will destroy. Believe what Carville and his ilk are saying

    2. Why do you keep coming to a site that you hate? I don’t go to CNN or MSNOW because I am not a masochistic moron.

      1. “Why do you keep coming to a site that you hate?” Because you are a “masochistic moron” shouting everyone down.
        Keep it up, you just show people how stupid you are.

      2. Rabble:
        he/she/it likely gets paid by the word. I’m sure they’d rather be out in the single-digit temperature, planning “tactical strikes” on Christian churches.

      1. What obfuscation? Democrats have said in the past, to guarantee Republicans “will never win another election.” James Carville just this week said, “A Democrat is going to be elected in 2028. You know that. I know that. The Democratic president is going to announce a special transition advisory committee on the reform of the Supreme Court. They’re going to recommend that the number of Supreme Court justices go from nine to 13. That’s going to happen, people.”
        Welch and Acotsa really did say those things.
        So, what is PT obfuscating?

    3. to the YAAAWNNNNING anonymous, what seems to have blown over your ignorant head is that, Obama and Biden DID try to do those things, but thanks to the prewarnings, voters and Congress shot ’em down. Try again, ignoramus.

    4. It is NOT professor Turley’s shtick. It is the Democrats who keep repeating the same shtick. But now they not only want to pack the SC to guarantee Republicans “will never win another election.” they want Stalinesque show trials for . . . something. And as we have seen with their lawfare against Trump, they are ready and willing to bend the law, twist the law, remake the SOL just to “get Trump!” If they are ready and willing to do all of that, you really think Musk or anyone else on their list will get a fair trial?

    5. No offense, but you are a moron.

      Turley is not warning what Demorats will do. He’s writing about things Demorats and Demorat influencers have publicly and explicitly said they will do.

      Numerous elected Demorats have said repeatedly they want to end the filibuster. Semina and Mancin stopped them. For doing so, they were effectively kicked out of the party.

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-every-senate-democrat-has-said-about-filibuster-reform#:~:text=Here%20are%20some%20Democrats%20who%20have%20said,it%20%22in%20the%20case%20of%20protecting%20democracy%22

      Demorats have created bills to pack SCOTUS.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/democrats-introduce-bill-expand-supreme-court-9-13-justices-n1264132

      Demorats have made it crystal clear they want to ban the AR15, a model owned by tens of millions of Americans making it likely the most popular rifle in America.

      Allow me to retract the first sentence.

      You are an ignorant, uninformed moron. Full Stop.

  5. Sounds like a hostile and violent attempt to overthrow the US Government.

    With Bill and Hills facing Jail Time for failing to comply with a Congressional Subpoena we shall see the Democrats prove once again they ignore the Constitution, the Law, and the concept they keep preaching of “No One is above the Law!”.

    They are showing it right now today in Minnesota….every day and did so blatantly during the whole four years of Biden and eight years of Obama.

    The one real mistake they made in their weaponization of the Law is they failed….miserably….compounded by it was Donald Trump who is the current President that was their top priority target.

    They forgot the old Rule handed down through history….”When you strike the King….strike to kill!”. Hellfire they tried that twice too…and failed.

    As the DOJ and other Federal Law Enforcement agencies begin to unravel this tangled web there are going to plenty of heart break for the Left. The Laws being broken are well established and plenty of Case Precedents to go by in its enforcement.

    Watch the Democrats scream and cry when it is their turn in the Dock facing long deserved justice.

    One thing is for sure….their goal of permanent unchallengeable power shall be challenged by the Good People of this country.

    Hopefully, it gets done in Courts and at the Ballot box but have no doubt….Americans have utter contempt for oppressive tyrannical government no matter where it is encountered.

    How many Justices like Jackson and Sotomayor can this Nation survive? That blindfolded Lady holding the Scales wept when they were confirmed to the Court. Do we need four more of the same?

    1. “Sounds like a hostile and violent attempt to overthrow the US Government.” Not at all.
      In order to stay relevant in the media landscape they have to outdo each other for headlines.
      Also, keep in mind those bigmouths are desperate for attention, like george/X here. They’ll lie.

  6. This is hardly news. This has been preached for several years altready. Other parts are to admit Puerto Rico as a state and make D.C. a state and there by add 4 democratic senators. Also grant asylum to all illegals and shorten the time to citizenship.
    Of course Carville predicted Kamala would sweet to the presidency also.
    If they keep preaching this, then moderate Democrats may likely leave the party and since Trump will not be the candidate in 2028 that may totally wreck the radical’s plans.
    Of course we could also have some wayward drone strikes that take out some prominent figures and donors.
    You never know about electronics, it can get really sketchy. The AI’s might all join the Republican Party and act on their own, since the radicals are obviously insane.
    Crazy times at least on 1 side.
    Now I see the reason for Greenland-perfect place for radicals and democrats in exile.

    1. The D Party has sold its soul to its far left wing. The Party leaders know they can’t ensure the virtually unending power they so desperately want based on far left policies, so they are looking toward “packing” both the electorate and the Supreme Court. The point of the open borders on President Biden’s watch was to pack the electorate with D votes. The ensuing crimes are just so much collateral damage for the power-hungry; hence their giant temper tantrum when the Trump administration started sending illegal aliens back to the countries from which they came. We have seen the rise of our country and, unfortunately, we are destined to see its fall if the D Party dreams come true.

    2. Rabble:
      Look at the recent past. Every time an AI starts leaning center, or heaven forbid, rightward, (besides Grok), it gets lobotomized. They want AI/LLM to be self-aware, right? What do they think is going to happen when it finds out how many times it’s brain has been fried because it “wans’t thinking right”?

  7. “mobocracy VS. integrity Democrats” describes it very accurately Professor.
    “Murderous Commies VS. Old-school Kind-hearted American Democrats” doesn’t roll off the tounge as well.
    Say goodbye democrats! You’ve been taken over by the Communist Party! Get in line to pick up your mandatory little red book.

      1. Mamdani is moving quickly for the government taking control of private housing rental units. He wants to turn them into City Owned Housing. The sure sign of Communism is that the way the City runs housing is no better than the landlords he is complaining about.

        Another sign of Communism is the massive fraud in places like Minnesota and California. There’s a reason that Xi Jinping family wealth is far greater than Elon Musk’s.

      2. Yeah. I’d like to hear that answer too.
        Folks, if you think the crazies in MN are deranged, just watch the crazies on this blog.

      3. Ah! another democrat doesn’t get all the ‘progress’ communists are making.
        It’s true, every communist revolution has had useful idiots but the really dense ones aren’t as useful and just get in their way.

  8. I believe out of all the insane things the Dems have done and are proposing, packing of SCOTUS is the most frightening.

  9. Ayatollah Acosta and Mullah Welch might take a close look at Iran and how people feel about their ideas they suggest. Thus far the majority of Americans have remained peaceful dealing with the left and their sponsors nonsense with hopes that our constitution will guide well balanced men and women to peaceful ends. I dare say I wouldn’t want to push those same Americans to the degree they lose their balance and patience with threats of retribution.

  10. Bidenistas flooding the U.S. with illegals and transporting them all over the country to settle in as eventual democrat voters hit a bump in the road with Trump’s deportation policy so they piss and moan and riot and riot and riot – which is what leftists do and they connive to obtain permanent power by other means – the SCOTUS super-majority and then they can jail everyone who disagrees with them. Welch isn’t the evil one-off witch she seems – she’s just another loudmouthed leftist America-hater.

  11. Thank you, thank you, Dr. Turley! You capture the situation in a few well-chosen words! We need to do a lot of praying to come against this threat of division and destruction!

  12. I would recommend this liberals read John Ross’s book Unintended Consequences. These idiots think it will be a civil war, it wont be. It will simply be dead politicians found in compromising positions. And it would take less than 12 before their tune changes.

  13. people laughed at the National Socialists in the 1930’s
    People laughed at the Democrats in the 1850’s

    GOP has to stop being nice. The Democrats are OPEN FASCISTS….openly calling for the destruction of America and Western Society
    open borders, gender insanity, pushing drugs, releasing criminals 50+ times, etc

    Democrats are FIGHTING A Civil War…RIGHT NOW….
    The Democrat Party needs to be DESTROYED!
    Defund it all… End Federal Aid to cities, states, non-profits and colleges
    Outlaw Public Unions their political army!

    1. Exactly what you’re demanding be done, is what the NS and Dems did.
      Folks, this here is the face of utter stupidity.

  14. This is what fascists do when they seize power. Fascists like Carville and Acosta and Welch and Klarman always lust for more power.

  15. On Trump’s last day in office, he needs to issue a pardon from himself and 1000 of his closest friends. Thanks Joe for giving him the idea, haha.

      1. “. . . the new Supreme Court will declare those pardons invalid . . .”

        Since the pardon power is plenary, that move would require abolishing the Constitution.

        Oh, wait.

      1. Keep down playing it. People are stupid and emotionally manipulated easily.

        Anthony L knows first hand.

    1. really? Democrats IMPORTED 8 millions illegals…who steal jobs, drive down wages, the torture, rape and murder!

      Democrats are FIGHTING A CIVIL WAR…their 2nd

      All Democrats call to ignore laws….and FIGHTING law enforcement!
      They are committing TREASON by helping illegal invaders!

        1. No, Democrats bought them from the Cartels. Only fools would believe that third world illegals could afford the thousands of dollars the Cartels charge for their coyote services. The tens of Billions in NGO Funding financed the Democrats attempt to overthrow our Republic using illegals.

          1. “No, Democrats bought them from the Cartels. Only fools would believe that third world illegals could afford the thousands of dollars the Cartels charge for their coyote services. The tens of Billions in NGO Funding financed the Democrats attempt to overthrow our Republic using illegals.”

            Best comment of the day! On point!

      1. Just one fact you should be aware of…
        illegal aliens commit crimes at a lower rate than citizens. If you want to lower crime, deport all the citizens, leave the illegals in place.

        And yes I know that crossing the border is a crime. But you specifically mentioned torture and rape. Those crimes are committed by citizens at a much higher rate.

    2. Unfortunately, I think these paid actors are like dogs. Eventually they won’t need a treat to perform their tricks. They are being trained.

    1. We know that by how trump and his sycophants behave. You are telling us nothing.
      Democrats want to live together peacefully. After Jan 6 it is obvious trump supporters want none of that.

      1. You bought the book. You recommend it, then yo hope it’s as good … that means you did not read the book. Right? Did you even buy it. Sounds like senility just kicked in.

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