There is a notable torts verdict in Maryland where a jury handed down a multi-million dollar verdict against Walmart for selling a shotgun to an employee who used it to commit suicide. The verdict raises difficult questions over Walmart’s responsibility for the suicide of Jacob Mace, who lied to store employees, under common law torts.
The family of Mace brought the lawsuit, alleging that Walmart employees knew that he was suicidal and struggling with mental health issues. They focused on his communications with a co-worker Christina O’Shea in which he wrote about feeling “broken” and “nothing helps. I just want it to end. Goodbye.” He also wrote that he intended to “Slit wrists. Buy a gun.”
O’Shea told assistant manager, Brennan Jones, about her concerns. Jones said that police should be called and, when Mace returned to work, spoke to Mace about the company’s counseling services and asked him how he was doing. He told him that “You know, we were worried about you,” but Mace assured him that he was fine.
Neither Jones nor O’Shea was involved in selling the gun to Mace. The sale was made by Eric McLaughlin, who testified that he had no idea of Mace’s mental health struggles. Mace told McLaughlin that the gun would be a present for his wife.
The family argued that Jones should have alerted other store managers about the conversation between O’Shea and himself. Moreover, the awareness of employees like Jones was then attributed to the company as a whole.
I find the verdict concerning on a number of levels. First, employers have to straddle a difficult line between protecting employees’ privacy and addressing threats to employees or the public. In this case, Mace insisted that he was doing fine and Jones had taken steps to confirm his status.
Second, Mace lied to the Walmart employee. There was no reason why McLaughlin would refuse the sale.
The case reminds me of Tarasoff v. Regents of University of California, which I teach in my torts class. In the 1974 case, Prosinjit Podder, an Indian Graduate student at Berkeley, fell in love with Tatiana Tarasoff. When she stated that she wanted to date other men, Podder went to counseling at the University Health Service and was treated by psychologist, Dr. Lawrence Moore. When he told Moore that he wanted to get a gun and kill Tarasoff, Moore sent a letter to campus police, who interviewed Podder and decided that he was not a risk. Podder then went ahead and murdered Tarasoff.
Justice Mathew O. Tobriner held that “… the confidential character of patient-psychotherapist communications must yield to the extent that disclosure is essential to avert danger to others. The protective privilege ends where the public peril begins.”
As a result, the hospital was held liable for the criminal actions of a third party — something that usually (but not always) cuts off proximate causation. It also rejects strong arguments made by doctors that such liability would create a chilling effect on counseling. A large number of patients often express their anger by focusing it on individuals and stating an intent to “kill that guy.” In the vast majority of such cases, the open disclosure allows the matter to be addressed and defused. However, if the patient knows that the doctor will have to tell authorities, such feelings are less likely to be expressed and addressed.
In this case, you have a retailer with an employee who expressed suicidal ideations. Jones did the right thing in seeking police involvement and then personally speaking with Mace. According to this verdict, the store should have barred the purchase. But for how long? What steps are necessary to satisfy this duty?
As with Tarasoff, there is no clear line on what employers should do and when they should do it.
The Second Amendment protects the right to gun ownership, though that right is not absolute. Additionally, this employee has privacy rights. Indeed, a memo to all employees could have been the subject of a different tort action for the disclosure of embarrassing private information, negligent infliction of emotional distress, or other claims.
From the perspective of Jones, he had one employee who expressed concerns over another employee’s mental health. He spoke to the second employee, who assured him that he was doing fine. Under these circumstances, Mace could have purchased the gun from any other store.
This is a tragic case, and it may be difficult to overturn on appeal. I understand the family’s anger that more was not done to save Mace from himself. I am unsure of how far the store could have gone. Jones would have needed to tell all employees not to sell Mace, any sharp objects, guns, or products capable of inducing overdoses or harm. That could trigger a lawsuit. If he fired or suspended Mace, he might be sued under disability laws.
If he did fire or suspend Mace, it is not clear that a gun sale could be withheld without something more than the word of a friend when the individual is denying such ideations. The right move is to seek police intervention, which Jones suggested.
The complaint does allege that Walmart had a “blacklist” for individuals who were suspected of any mental problems. If so, that does raise a legitimate question about why Mace was not added to the list, at least as a precautionary matter. However, these are difficult and fluid circumstances for a manager to address, particularly in a relatively short time period.
The jury awarded approximately $2.5 million in economic damages and $8 million in non-economic damages. Those damages may be reduced due to state caps on non-economic damages.
Here is the complaint in the case: Brady v. Walmart
All the pretense that ICE activity in Minneapolis is directed at immigration enforcement was completely destroyed yesterday by the letter from Bondi to Walz.
She said ICE would withdraw if Walz turns over data regarding voter registration and records regarding Medicaid and SNAP.
This is nothing more than a Mafia style shakedown.
All that is missing from Bondi’s letter is the statement :”nice little city you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to it.”
For the last 2 days, leadership has encouraged the “Peaceful” attack of ICE officers in their performance of duties. Like seen in the attack on the White House when the Mayor of DC withdrew MPD, “protesters” rage into the lines, and when they penetrate, turn to their comrades and say “did you get that”?
In this case, the ICE officers were obstructed from movement by the trained Brown Shirts, and when disabled motion forward on the street, they were rear constrained – a classic besiege ambush operation. Once constrained and confined, they and their vehicles were entrapped in Khe Shan Minneapolis. The “peaceful” protesters mounted continuous confrontations, often using the “pull from the waist and point” tactic to elicit propaganda “videos” of reaction by the now besieged law enforcement officers.
This was a well trained and very successful strategy. For details (and we can expect more of this). It makes for great propaganda.
https://www.benning.army.mil/Infantry/DoctrineSupplement/ATP3-21.8/chapter_08/CombatPatrols/ActionsontheObjective_Ambush/index.html
Not the first time this tactic has been used.
https://www.worldhistory.org/image/19521/hitler-beer-hall-putsch-memorial/
Battle
What exactly does this nonsensical comment have to do with the fact that Bondi now freely admits that this charade is nothing more than blackmail, and a mafia shakedown ???
She has explicitly said that this will all end when Walz turns over voter registration records, as well as Medicaid and SNAP records.
This entire fiasco is just a mafia style shakedown to try to force Walz to hand over information.
Straight out blackmail.
Nothing more, nothing less.
You lied twice about the same letter. Care to go for the trifecta?
Its what all government do, some worse than others. So asking for voter roles is a smart step forward in identifying illegals. ICE can then reduce presence.
Its a very smart response.
Absolutely Bondi is “blackmailing Gov. Walz”
She is demanding that he comply with federal voting and benefits laws,
but most importantly she is demanding that he Coopoerate with and protect ICE agents in their efforts to remove illegal aleins – particularly criminal illegal aliens.
Unlike you idiotic Claim – this is not ONLY about Fraud and voting – which DOJ has been pursuing in court and will with certainty win.
It is about faurd and voting IN ADDITION to cooperating with ICE to remove illegal aliens.
Bondi’s letter is “upping the ante”
John Say the Stupid
So you agree that Bondi is engaging in blackmail.
At least that is a start.
You apparently believe that it is legitimate for the federal government to impose its will by the use of masked, unidentifiable paramilitary enforcers who can shoot citizens in the street for exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest, while saying that all this will stop when you do what I demand.
There are perfectly legal means for Bondi to achieve her goals through the courts. If her claims are legitimate they will support her. The problem is that in your MAGA zeal, you believe that the courts are corrupt and will deny Bondi’s demands.
Instead you believe that a tyrannical government can use force to impose its will, and you do not believe in the rule of law.
“So you agree that Bondi is engaging in blackmail.”
Of course.
That is also what Parents do when they tell children – Behave or things could get worse.
“You apparently believe that it is legitimate for the federal government to impose”
THE LAW BY FORCE.
That is what the federal government not only MAY do, it is what is MUST do.
Laws are not “suggestions”.
We have far too many laws and should get rid of most of them.
But it is highly unlikely that our immigration laws are the ones that under any circumstances we could get broad agreement to get rid of.
Nor is it likely we would get rid of laws prohibiting fraud – particularly public Fraud.
As to the weak tail of your statement.
“its will by the use of masked”
Don;t dox them and threaten their families.
BTW threats against Federal Law enforcement is a crime and people are being prosecuted for it.
I would suggest you look at video fo police dealing with potential RIOTS.
They are nearly ALWAYS in gear to protect them that obscures their face.
Regardless, left wing nuts bitching about masks is precious. And massively hypocritical.
“unidentifiable”
When an arrest is made the arresting officer MUST be identified, and as the case prepares for trial the defense must be given the identitiy of not only all officers by anyone that Law Enforcement is aware was at the arrest.
“paramilitary”
Nope – Just law enforcement that is all.
The IRA is Paramilitary,
Hamas is paramilitary.
ICE is law enforcement,
They are there to arrest people. That is a law enforcement task not a military task.
“enforcers”
Absolutely – that is what Law Enforcement does ENFORCE the law.
“who can shoot citizens in the street”
DO NOT drive a 5000lb SUV at people – and you likely will not get shot.
DO NOT confront law enforcement with a gun and you likely will not get shot.
“for exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest”
Protest all you want.
Protesting does not involve rioting.
Protesting does not involve guns.
Protesting does not involve blinding people with lasers.
Protesting does not involve trowing rocks and frozen water bottles.
Protesting does not involve interfering with Law Enforcement.
As a rule – if you move towards a LEO and you intentionally make contact with them – you are likely to be arrested for assault and/or obstruction.
Protesting does not involve CONTACT with LEOs.
While not relevant to this particular incident
Protesting also does not involve invading churches or businesses,
or private property.
Even protests on public property are generally limited.
While we often see protestors on the street – absent a permit from the city,
if you are obstructing traffic you are breaking the law.
Your right to protest ends when you are interfering with the rights of others.
“while saying that all this will stop when you do what I demand.”
NO, she is saying if you want 3000 ICE agents out of Minneapolis, then quit obstructing ICE,
allow them to do their job without interfereance.
Allow them to detain criminal illegals at jails and prisons where it is far safer for absolutely everyone,
Rather than having to do so on the streets.
While ICE is not specifically involved in the Fraud investigation – beyond arresting those illegal immigrants that come up in the fraud investigation. It is still absolutely True that investigating Fraud involving federal funds is a federal law enforcement issue and the State Government MY NOT INTERFERE.
You can pretty much bet that DOJ is building an obstruction of justice case against Walz, Elison, Frey, Omar and others.
While their involvement in the Fraud stinks to high heaven – meeting the Supreme Courts high bar to prove fraud by elected officials will be hard. Obstruction is Far easier to prove.
“There are perfectly legal means for Bondi to achieve her goals through the courts.”
Some of them – though for the must part what she is after does NOT require the courts, it merely requires elected officials in Minnesota to do their jobs and follow the law.
DOJ is absolutely entitled to investigate fraud involving Federal funds.
It likely does not even need a subpoena to obtain the records for how the State disbursed Federal Funds.
Federal law requires MN to provide the voting records DOJ is asking for – I beleive 40 states have already done so.
There are only a few idiot blue states that are failing to comply with the law.
I would further note most of these records are PUBLIC RECORDS. Most anyone – can go to local courthouses and ask for them paying a copying fee. Political parties near universally obtain many of these records all the time.
Obama used these records to supercharge his GOTV operations.
“If her claims are legitimate they will support her.”
You seem to believe that it is legitimate to FORCE the government to go to court over absolutely everything.
It is NOT.
Again – the records of how a state spends federal funds are required to be availble to the federal government on request.
When a public official uses government powers to impeded a criminal investigation that is obstruction of justice.
These people are Free as private citizens to use every legal maneuver in the book to slow an investigation into things that they have standing regarding – and if they are a target – they have standing.
They MAY not use public power to do so.
this was HUGE deal in the Mueller investigation. Trump RAnted and raved, and said all kinds of nasty things publicly and privately.
On occasion he directed WH councel to Fight turning over documents to Mueller. But Trump’s WH counsel wisely told Trump NOT to use public power to thwart Mueller in anyway – as that could be obstruction. Ultimately Mueller pretended there was obstruction anyway. Claiming that Trump merely ranting about what he might do was somehow obstruction.
Regardless, if DOJ must go to court to get records of Minnesota fraudulent spending of Federal Funds – someone is going to jail for obstruction.
While there is no allegation of Fraud regarding voting records, there is credible allegations of failure to follow the law.
Federal law requires that voter registration records purge invalid voters on a regular basis.
That is NOT optional. But most blue districts fail to do as the law requires. There are lots of citties with more registered voters than people.
“The problem is that in your MAGA zeal, you believe that the courts are corrupt and will deny Bondi’s demands.”
Federal Courts in MN are proveably corrupt.
In 99% of the country if you throw ANYthing at an officer of the law – you will be arrested, convicted and go to jail.
But not Minneapolis. Apparently they have a different constitution where proof beyond a reasonable doubt is NOT sufficient to be probable cause.
One of the most effective ways to wind down these idiotic out of control Riots that you call first amendment protests is to arrest and prosecute those who are violating the law. Do that a few times and things become peaceful fast.
But we now have left wing nut magistrates that have a different constitution than the rest of us.
You lament that people are dying – that is because the MPD is not permitted to keep the peace, and because when ICE has to try to do so using federal laws – we get lunatic left wing nut courts who obstruct.
I would further note that in MN given that there is now credible allegations that the fraud is over 16B – that means the entirety of state and MN federal government is legitmately suspect.
Fraud this scale can not occur without massive complicity in Government. DOJ should be seeking to move warrants and court orders involving MN – particularly the Fraud to other Federal courts because the local federal courts are conflicted. They are too politically tied to people who are clearly suspects.
But YES, absolutely people in this country do not trust left wing nut courts.
Those of you on the left rant about Trump’s approval being about 45%.
Trump’s approval is MUCH higher than any individual of either party in government.
It is higher than that of the courts, or Republicans, or democrats.
You can rant that Trump is underwaate – maybe even not liked.
But as little trust as Trump might have it is TWICE that of any other person or part of government.
Yes, people do not trust left wing nut courts.
There is a tiny portion of Trump’s actions that stretch the limits of exectutive power.
There is pretty much NOTHING Trump has done int he area of Immigration that is in exxcess of what Bush, Obama, Biden or Clinton did. Obama deported almost 500K people.year. Many in the immigrant cumminity called him the “deporter in chief”.
Trump’s deportations are just over double Obama’s – not 10 times as high.
The difference is Obama was allowing 1-2M illegals into the country per year while deporting 1/2 M.
Trump is now allowing at most 10,000 illegals in a year – probably less, while deporting just under 1M.
The so called Gesapto incompetent inexperinced officers in ICE are often Obama hires.
The agent that shot Good was hired by Obama, the Agen that shot Pretti was hired by obama.
These are veterans not incompetent new hires.
BTW significant new hiring just started in late Jan 2026.
ICE has been operating under a Biden budget not a Trump one.
The shutdown fight Dems are about to start is to stop a large increase in ICE spending and 10,000 new hires.
These people have not been hired yet.
New hires during 2025 has been replacements for people who have left – normal turnover.
The point is AGAIN those of you on the left are lying.
I would guess that about 40% of ICE officers are democrats.
I would be very surprised if most on the street today do not have atleast 5 years experience.
But then the left lies.
Back to Judges.
SCOTUS has been swattting down idiotic efforts by lower courts to warp the law all over the place.
Every single action Trump takes should not result in a supreme court case that is decided based on sometimes multiple centuries of legal precident.
Just about all the lawfare against trump is confined to 3 federal Districts, within those diestricts it is confined to possible two dozen of the approx 700+ federal judges. 25% of all the lawfare is with only 5 judges nationwide.
Yes there is a problem with the judiciary.
We are even seeing cases where SCOTIS bitch slapped one of these judges – and the same case that SCOTUS said the judge did NOT have jurisdiction – comes back to them a few months later, with the Judge taking some NEW constitutional liberties to pretend SCOTUS did NOT tell him to pound sand.
One Really simple issue – Immigration is NOT for the most part a Criminal law issue – there are no actual rights being infringed on, therefore there is minimal due process required. Congress created a separate article II court system for Immigration – just as they have for Medicare and SS claims and for Taxes, The article III courts have almost no jurisdiction over these matter BY LAW.
These separate systems survive constitutional muster BECAUSE no rights are being infringed on.
If you review the past – immigration cases in the Federal article III courts are incredibly rare.
Why ? Because the A\article III courts has almost no jurisdiction over immigration.
Yet here we are after a year – still fighting no brainer court cases that shoudl have been dismissed for lack of jurisdiction or standing at the get go, that STILL are working their way to SCOTUS often for the 2nd time.
Yes there is a lawless subset of the federal courts.
I would note that as Wacky as many Obama appointments are – with very few exceptions the bad decisions are not only from Biden appointees – but often on the way out the door appointees with ZERO experience.
“Instead you believe that a tyrannical government can use force to impose its will, and you do not believe in the rule of law.”
Nope, I no not beleive – it is a FACT that Government is FORCE and that FORCE can be used to compell adherance to EXISTING LAW.
That is LITERALLY “the rule of law, not man”
You are upside down and topsy turvey.
There are areas I have issues with Trump – following immigration law is not one of those.
There are areas I have issue with immigration law. But congress did not pass the laws I would prefer.
Trump is enforceing the laws we have – not the ones YOU want, not the ones I Want.
Again that is “the rule of law” – that is the exact opposite of Tyrany.
If you are going to claim Trump is a lawless tyrant – provide EVIDENCE to support that.
As an example What is ICE doing that goes beyond existing immigration law ?
We get these stupid allegations that Trump is a KIng – but these seem to boil down to Trump is enforcing the laws we have, and you do not like those laws.
Absolutely Trump is doing so “gleefully”,
but the FACT is whether the president LOVES our laws, or Hates them – the oath of office requires him to Enforce the laws we have – not the ones the president likes.
That is what the rule of law means
Again that is the opposite of tyranny.
If you do not like the law – change it.
If you can’t – live with it until you can.
That is what the rule of law ACTUALLY means.
John Say,
I agree that Bondi is upping the ante. All sane and normal people would want to find and eliminate monetary fraud and possible voter fraud. Why is Walz and other Democrats are so against that? IIRC one of the MN state comptrollers stated she did not have enough people to uncover all the fraud. You would think they would welcome any kind of assistance.
There are claims that the left is winning this fight. Sometimes Rassmussen has polling that SORT of supports that.
At the same time Trump is at 47% today. That is the highest he has been since October.
A real autopsy of 2020 is necessary – not just to preclude future fraud and lawlessness in voting.
But to figure out what the real message of Voters was.
WE had riots all summer in 2020. But they stopped as the election approached.
Many say that the riots and lawlessness negatively impacted Trump and his shot at re-election.
At the time and still NOW I beleive the opposite is true. I am not sure that Polling accurately measures that.
We fight over polls here all the time. But Polls are NOT very fined grained and I do not think they translate all that well into peoples REAL decisions.
I could be wrong – but I beleive that Covid – and especially the economic damage of Covid was the biggest real negative for Trump in 2020.
I beleive lawless and often fraudulent main voting was the largest factor in the outcome.
Covid was second, and the factor that nearly tipped the election back to Trump was the Riots of the summer.
I also do not like the polls right now.
RFepublcians have been gaining against democrats in voter registration for atleast a decade.
Yet Dems are up in the Generic Ballot.
At the same time Trumps numbers are low – though not near as low as claimed,
Republicans numbers are lower, But democrats are completely in the toilet with approval levels so low no one has ever seen numbers that low.
And we are suppose to beleive that Democrats are going trounce republicans in 2026 ?
My guts say Democrats are doing almost exactly the wrong things if they want to win.
Garbage:
Bondi dealt with alleged criminality in Minnesota. As AG, she wanted the data on alleged mishandling of SNAP, Medicaid, civil rights access to voting rolls, and a repeal of the state’s sanctuary policies, with cooperation and support for ICE and the federal immigration effort.
As usual, intelligence and accuracy do not exist in any of your posts.
Ad hominem. Not an argument.
You are correct.
Meyer NEVER argues the facts.
His specialty is the childish, boorish ad hominem insults. Unusually for him, he did not make his typical alcohol abuse insult this time. That is his usual go to insult when he knows he is wrong.
What has SM said that was not a FACT ?
Directly from Bondi’s letter:
“Second, repeal the sanctuary policies that have led to so much crime and violence in your state.
Removing criminal illegal aliens from Minnesota neighborhoods will save lives, and state and
local officials should support this goal. All detention facilities in your state should cooperate
fully with ICE, honor immigration detainers, and permit ICE to interview detainees in custody to
determine immigration status. I urge you to reach an agreement with ICE that allows them to
remove illegal aliens in custody of Minnesota’s prisons and jails and avoids pushing these
interactions into your streets.”
The entire letter is here.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2026/01/mn_letter_1.24.26.pdf
“Ad hominem. Not an argument.” But here it is.
Sue look s like Argument.
ATS makes false claims abotu Bondi’s “offer”.
While SM corrects them.
That SM’s is making an argument rather than engaging in adhominem can be verified by reading Bondi;s letter.
The WHOLE Thing.
Misrepresenting the whole as a badly spun version of one part is a logical FALACY.
SM made and Argument, and YOU are shilling fallaicies.
Babbling incoherently as usual.
ATS – now YOUR post is the perfect example of NOT AN ARGUMENT,
What about my response is incoherent ?
You or some other anonymous LIED about the bondi letter.
I have pointed that out,
SM has pointed that out
You doubled down on the lie.
While ICE is NOT to lead in investigating Minnesota Fraud – FBI is, and the State of Minesota should be.
That Fraud does involve illegal immigrants.
ICE can legitimately detain and deport ANY illegal immigrant.
They certainly can detain and deport those alleged to have engaged in Fraud.
You rant because Bondi wants records from MN. That would be meaningful – if this fraud had NOT been going on for YEARS,
If there were NOT over 1000 whistlebloower complaints over the years from over 200 mostly democrat state employees.
Your rant would be relevant if a barely adult independent journalist had not going out and found hundreds of million dollars of Fraud NOW years after the first reports.
Are Walz Frey, Omar, … involved int he fraud – it certainly looks like it.
But even giving them all the benefit of the doubt they were without any doubt caught asleep at the switch and IGNORING reports of Fraud involving people they were CLOSELY affiliated with.
The ONLY people who CAN NOT BE TRUSTED to investigate in MN is the state and local governments.
The Voter information is similar. Federal Law REQUIRES states to clean up their voter registration rolls. DOJ has stepped in – usually in small ways to do so REPEATEDLY over the past 25+ years. By LAW the state is required to provide the requested informatio to th Feds. That is not common – because DOJ usually only investigates a few states at a time. Right now they are demanding information that states are required to provide by law.
Instead MN is obstructing. There is little doubt that DOJ is building a criminal case against Walz, Frey, Omar Elison and others.
Further Obstruction is NOT going to make anything go better.
Nor Would I bet that any of these MN officials are going to get sympathy from an MN Jury – Trump did not Steal Billions of Dollars that belongs to Minesotans – State and local officials participated in that. Placing blame is not going to be hard – not even from Democrats in MN.
You and your twin do not make yourselves right, but do double up on your stupidity. Your argument was garbage, and your facts were incomplete, standard for the lefties lacking intellect.
S. Meyer,
What this proves is there is more fraud at higher levels of local and state government then previously known. Walz needs the distraction, and the demand of all federal LEOs out of the state to prevent them from discovering more evidence of fraud and possible connections.
Thank you, Upstate. You simplified the question beautifully.
This obsequious and sycophantic behavior of thanking each other, and congratulating each other, by you MAGA morons is vomit inducing.
This is typical cult behavior where its members feel the need to constantly reassure each other of their allegiance to the cause.
You like to negatively characterize politeness. You can’t stand it that Upstate and others deal with the facts and not the stupidity you bring to the table. You can’t even keep an identifiable persona because you lie in the filth of the streets. We want to keep clear of your filth and interact with polite facts.
We know who you are and your dirty habits.
Present in the state or not, the information is accessible by the federal government thru federal law action and coercion.
BTW, the fed has extensive records to make its case; DOGE proved that.
Ever hear of data retention via databases ka computers?
I am not sure exactly what is Proven.
But you are correct that the harder Waltz, Ellison, Frey, .. fight against a federal investigation the guiltier they look.
“. . . the letter from Bondi to Walz.”
Guess what? You’re lying about the content of Bondi’s letter. Imagine that.
ATS – left wing nuts lying by Omission again
Among Bondi’s requirements:
“repeal the sanctuary policies that have led to so much crime and violence in your state.
Removing criminal illegal aliens from Minnesota neighborhoods will save lives, and state and
local officials should support this goal. All detention facilities in your state should cooperate
fully with ICE, honor immigration detainers, and permit ICE to interview detainees in custody to
determine immigration status. I urge you to reach an agreement with ICE that allows them to
remove illegal aliens in custody of Minnesota’s prisons and jails and avoids pushing these
interactions into your streets.”
He is a link to the ENTIRE letter
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/read-it-bondi-sends-warning-letter-gov-walz-warning-minnesotas-immigration-policies-endanger-agents
John Say the Stupid.
So what exactly is your point ????
You are simply confirming that Bondi is making explicit demands that must be met for the ICE invasion to cease.
This is straight out mafia style blackmail. She is simply saying, if you want the violence to stop then you have to do what I demand.
Why can you not understand that this is nothing less than a shakedown. There are perfectly legal means to achieve her demands through the courts, but she chooses this violent confrontation with blackmail demands. If her claims are legitimate then the courts will support her.
Of course, you will argue that the courts are corrupt and will not support her demands, but this is just typical MAGA nonsense that any adverse decision is by definition corrupt.
The point is, you either believe in the rule of law or you believe that a tyrannical government can enforce its will by violence in the streets.
The choice is very simple.
Which do you believe in ??????????????????????
ICE agents are now the Imperial storm toopers.
Way to much TV.
Go back to your bedroom and close the door. And no dinner.
Reruns of Sledge Hammer are the new ICE training videos:
ICE just wants to shoot people, no matter how flimsy the reason.
And then they demonize their victims to justify killing them,
which is what Nazis did to their victims.
Anyone the trolls don’t like are called Nazi’s. What a limited collection of smears.
edwardmahl,
And that is why the rage rhetoric being spewed by Walz, Frey, Omar, other Democrats and a compliant MSM is what got that person killed. These people actually believe they are fighting against . . . something. What they are fighting against is LEOs from conducting immigration law enforcement. What they are fighting for is lawlessness.
If “What they are fighting for is lawlessness.” That’s it? Towards what goal?
The “Democratic Socialists” just want anarchy, no matter how flimsy the reason.
And then they demonize the opposition to justify terrorizing them,
which is what Nazis did to their victims.
The “Democratic Socialists” just want anarchy, no matter how flimsy the reason.
And then they demonize the opposition to justify terrorizing them,
which is what Nazis did to their victims.
ICE just wants to shoot gun
That’s really all they want
When the working day is done
ICE just wants to shoot gun.
ICE just wants to shoot gun.
I’m really beginning to question the wisdom of the jury system in civil cases.
Mental note to self:
Do not bring firearm to protest, especially when intending to physically interact with ICE agents.
It is your right to do so, and there’s no law against doing so.
If there is no law against it, then it is your right.
WRONG.. When you put yourself between and officer doing his job and your opinion. You are breaking the law.
Try reading the law just once. You cannot interfere.
Minnesota Statutes §§ 624.714, 624.7181
Minnesota Department of Public Safety — Permit to Carry Information
Minnesota Legislature — Firearms Laws
Was he carrying a valid permit to carry? Reportedly he had no ID on him.
Irrelevant. Possessing a gun in that situation, possession laws mean nothing.
I’d would like to see you put that into practice in MN.
Where do we send flowers?
If Donald Trump really wants to reduce costs of working people, he would appoint a commission to study the cost of our injury compensation system compared to those systems of other countries. The conclusion would probably shock us. The cost is hidden by insurance.
I was in Germany in 2005 with my parents. My father at 84 years old slipped in the shower with no handrails to grab onto. Fortunately he was not hurt. We went to the registration desk (Hilton if I remember correctly )to notify them of the fall and to notify them what we felt were dangerous conditions. The floor of the shower was smooth and no hand rails. Their response was similar to this, this is not America, we take responsibility for our own actions. In discussing this response with my cousins they said, lawsuits similar to what this one would be, are not allowed.
This type of attitude, which I believe in, would certainly cut down on the cost of insurance and perhaps make people more responsible.
“are not allowed”. Falsch! Gotta ask, why would you bring an 84 y/o along?
One just wouldn’t get a $3 million prize. The system allows for loss of income and medical bills.
Hopefully you had extended liability and medical coverage for foreign countries.
This isn’t about Walmart. This is about the mental illness of Maryland juries. Utopia is always just one lawsuit away from reality. Good luck with that.
You sure do hate people who don’t think like you.
Ever think you may be wrong?
At no point did Diogenes say anything about hating others.
He was talking about mental issues.
Try again.
Accusing someone/people of mental illness, especially when that person is not a psychiatrists is condescending and intended to insult, accentuated by the fact he didn’t like the outcome. You are an especially stupid person whoever you are.
So are you a doc?
Talking is one thing, giving advice is another.
Talking? Advice? Doc?
Anon
I did think I was wrong one time, it’s when I agreed with you. We were both wrong…
Meanwhile, another ICE murder in Minneapolis. Another set of lies by ICE Barbie. More lies trying to blame the victim. More videos proving ICE Barbie is nothing but a liar. The feds once again taking over the investigation into a murder committed by their own agents after already announcing the outcome. More MAGA media spreading ICE lies. This time the victim is a 37 year old ICU nurse who was trying to help a woman who had been shoved to the ground by an ICE thug. Before he was murdered, he was knocked down, pepper sprayed and kicked and beaten. All he was doing was videoing ICE. Trump is trying to blame Gov. Walz and Mayor Frey.
Dumb bottle Blondie is trying to leverage an agreement for ICE to stand down in exchange for turning over Minnesota financial and voting records— neither of which has anything to do with immigration enforcement. Obviously, bottle Blondie doesn’t know or care that she is supposed to protect the Constitutional right to peacefully protest. And, if she wants records, if they are properly discoverable, that’s what counts are for— not Jack-booted masked thugs beating, pepper spraying, tear gassing and killing citizens.
Citizens do have Constitutional rights, one of which is the right to peacefully protest, which is what the latest ICE murder victim was doing. Bondi should immediately have the killer taken into custody, a toxicology blood draw taken and the killing investigated. Instead, like Trump, she’s trying to “leverage “ this incident for political gain.
Americans have had it. We DO believe our lying eyes. The victim was not trying to shoot anyone. He did not have a weapon in his hand. He did not have a criminal record— but the same can’t be said for some of the ICE thugs. He is not a domestic terrorist. One of his hands held a cellphone and the other was above his head when he was shot. It’s murder, pure and simple. As one of the protesters pointed out, if Stephen Miller’s squad of murderous thugs get away with these killings, they’ll come for YOU next. ICE is the cause of the violence in Minneapolis.
So, Turley, why don’t you write about this—trying to leverage ICE stopping the abuse of peaceful protesters in exchange for getting into voting and financial records? How about discussing knocking down protesters, pepper spraying them, kicking and beating them and then shooting them when they were not trying to injure law enforcement?
The Minnesota peaceful protesting Leftys are getting so cold and hungry they’re resorting to Cannibalism
Lefty Protestor Bites Off Federal Officer’s Finger
In the chaos and violence following the death of an armed Minneapolis would-be terrorist shot while fighting Border Patrol, another protester has bitten off the finger of a federal officer
By: Catherine Salgado via PJMedia.com, ~ Jan 24, 2026
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/lefty-protestor-bites-federal-officers-finger
The Cannibal Cookbook: Human meat recipes from around the world
By: Nico Claux
https://oldfirehousebooks.com/book/9798592339141
First, Epstein Island, now cannibalism. The Democrats continue to exceed our worst expectations.
Especially to such a stupid thing like you.
Minneapolis Minnesotan gives new meaning to I.C.E.
“Tastee-Freez”
My strong advice, Anonymouse, don’t bring a loaded pistol to a fistfight with a squad of law enforcement.
You may have missed the fact that ICE was armed. The analogy is insufficient. Wrong again.
This victim reportedly had a loaded 9 mm semiautomatic handgun and two additional magazines full of ammunition. While we can’t know his intentions, he clearly came prepared to do significant damage. Ultimately, his refusal to hand his weapon to law enforcement appears to be the proximal cause of his death.
Reportedly? Prepared? Refusal? And “we” can’t know his intentions. Thank you, I move to acquit.
And ask that the shooter be changed with 1st degree murder.
The Department of Homeland Security said the shooting happened after he “approached” U.S. Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semiautomatic handgun. Officials did not specify if Pretti brandished the gun, and it is not visible in bystander videos of the shooting obtained and verified by CBS News, The AP and other outlets.
Plus you should read what his ex-wife had to say about him. Revealing. There are 4 videos of this shooting.
Good cut-n-paste job. You have the makings of a journalist. Impressive intellectual ability.
Diogenes,
This is the problem. These people actually believe they are fighting against . . . something. They are not. For that matter, in their ignorance of the law (immigration), they believe they can interfere with LEOs carrying out their lawful duty as directed by Congress. The blame lies with Walz, Frey, Democrats who are ratcheting up the rage rhetoric and a compliant MSM.
Truth!
“He did not have a weapon in his hand. He did not have a criminal record…”
Ashli Babbit could not be reached for comment. Your people killed her with no gun and no criminal record.
Babbit is a woman, explain your reference to he. Pronouns problem maybe?
Ano
Just like our newest Supreme court pick. None of you morons have any idea what a women is. But DNA doesn’t lie like you.
Your comment is incoherent.
Only you to
Do you even think about how people might respond to your hypocrisy?
Have you ever considered that you are wrong?
Ano
Have you ever considered that you are wrong?
___________________________
OK Ano, so tell us, what is a women.
Dio was not referring to the question of “what is a woman”.
Ano
Yet you post NO proof.
When someone brings a firearm to a protest they intend to use it. They are a tool for killing, that’s what they are for. He was stupid to bring it, he was stupid to engage with agents while armed and now he’s dead. If you were a LEO in this situation , at this juncture you would have been harassed, berated, life threatened, assaulted and probably in fear for your own life. I don’t see this as murder, it’s another justifiable shooting.
Don’t play with guns, there isn’t one of these mooks ICE is after worth your life.
EightBall,
You are correct. Bringing a gun, initiate a confrontation with LEOs, violently, fail to obey lawful orders from LEOs. Loaded weapon, and an additional two loaded magazines?
I blame Waltz, Frey and other Democrats who are spouting the rage rhetoric.
More lies and gaslighting.
“Americans have had it.”
Ah! You actually said something factual. We have had it. We have had it with Democrats protecting criminal illegals. We have had it with Democrats enabling fraud. We have had it with Democrats open borders allowing millions of unvetted illegals into the country. Thankfully with the election of Trump, he and ICE are cleaning the Democrats mess up. Have you seen ICE or BP recruitment numbers? They are way above anything under Biden, as no one wanted to serve under Biden, just like few people wanted to serve in the military under Biden. Since Trump was elected, military recruitment numbers are way up. We have had it with Democrats and their lawlessness. And it shows.
The silence is deafening !!!!
The regular MAGA mobsters here are remarkably silent about the brutal act of terrorism committed by ICE thugs in Minneapolis today.
Killing an armed and violent terrorist in the act of terrorizing is not terrorism; it is law enforcement.
You see?
It worked rather well; everyone agrees!
Not at all. Your definition is faulty. You are wrong.
We have something in America called the law. You don’t get to pick and choose which ones you want enforced on any given day. He was brandishing a weapon and he experienced the consequences. I’m just sorry these weak minded individuals are so easily manipulated by the left.
“law”? In fact pick and choose is the mainstay of the enforcement of “law”. The weapon, as reported by all media sources state the weapon was concealed.
I’m just sorry these weak minded individuals, like yourself, are so easily manipulated by lies..
He did not brandish a weapon- it was removed from the permitted concealed carry holster in full view of the killer who shot him multiple times in the back.
Cops pick and choose every single day. Go to the highway, drive the speed limit. Every car passing you is violating the law but cops choose to allow that to happen.
Those on the right have been manipulated into being minions for the Billionaires.
Dear Dog,
Thank you for barking us Snowzilla, a combination of snow and ice. I just checked Foxnews and noticed an article there was posted: Published January 24, 2026 5:24pm EST, and there are already over 5300 comments…and growing.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/alex-pretti-37-identified-man-fatally-shot-border-patrol-agent-minneapolis
If the snow/ice linger for weeks, and the power is down as long, then that would mean a culling of people has started.
What took you so long?
Ice
I really like him in Star trek. but he made a total fool of himself with this video.
StarTrek?
You are stupid.
The now defunct mom and pop shops across America should pile on the suit too cause Walmart killed them too!
Why single out Walmart to blame? It wasn’t just Walmart but all the big box stores – whether general merchandise like Walmart & Target or specialty stores like Pet Smart, Barnes & Noble, Home Depot, etc. It is less about price than the convenience of one-stop shopping and a wider array of choices.
The Big Box stores are now facing competition from online sales of food, electronics, clothes, etc., which are accelerating at a phenomenal rate.
Mainly Walmart is a problem. They would build a store, under-price the local stores and then, when those stores went out of business, raise the prices above what the local stores had previously charged. With the local stores gone a large number of people in those stores which had full time jobs could only get part time work at Walmart with benefits that had been part of their previous employment being picked up by food stamp and Medicaid programs.
“. . . when those stores went out of business . . .”
Apparently, you’ve never been to a Walmart. Or looked around the parking lot and surrounding area. A Walmart is a magnet for local stores.
So now ALL Walmart shoppers get to pay a little bit more for their cheap Chinese junk. How about the car dealership that sold him the car to drive there next? Morons
. The Brady v. Walmart case has abundant infractions and was held responsible correctly. Always a tragedy RIP Jacob Mace and condolences to the family.
One wonders about the family’s motivation for this lawsuit. Apart from $, one suspects that guilt may play a role. Were they aware that Jacob Mace was depressed? Did they know he was considering suicide? What actions did they take to help him?
Possibly grief. For certain his co-worker knew he was planning suicide with a gun. As a part of Walmart that is sufficient to say the corporation knew. It isn’t clear he had told his family, but he did not hide his plan from Walmart.
Sue him, the killer, for murder in the first degree and give the proceeds to his loved ones for ruining their lives.
. Interesting comment, anon, except you forgot Hunter Biden lied too and was pardoned. Jacob Mace is pardoned for lying, too. He can still be sued for all his worldly goods.
Walmart actually violated the laws. They need to do a rethink on their process and show they shouldn’t have their license pulled OR repeal all laws regarding arms.
It’s a trade-off. Rather than tombstone territory again ridding the land of killers, such laws were created. Tombstone probably works better.
Correction: Hunter Biden lied and pardoned himself with the Autopen.
Is the Autopen in the room with you? .0
Suppose someone kills someone with a golf club. Can the retailer who sold the golf club be held responsible for the crime and furthermore can the manufacturer of the club also be held responsible for the actions of an individual?
. IB, you know better.
No, please explain. In court a good lawyer can make the argument go from one product to another to assign blame. Someone else is always to blame. We’re all victims. If this mindset were to take hold then no one would produce anything for fear someone would miss use a product and the retailer or manufacturer would be held responsible. Not the final consumer.
If you go into a store to buy a golf club and tell the people working there you want to kill someone with a golf club and then they sell you the golf club there is a good chance they would be charged with being an accessory to murder.
The excuse that the right hand did not know what the left hand was doing ignores that both hands belonged to Walmart and, in fact, hands don’t know anything. The shared brain does and that brain was clearly told what the plan was.
Sue the Treasury for printing the money he used.
The singular American failure is the judicial branch, with emphasis on the Supreme Court.
Of course, the perpetrator is solely responsible for that which he perpetrated, his actions, and Walmart engaged in legal commerce.
Not every American citizen who has a gun is a terrorist.
Under this theory WalMart could be liable for selling socks since they can be used to strangle/suffocate a person. Maybe Wally should just close all their stores in blue/leftist states.