This year, there has been a race to the bottom as Democratic politicians fuel the rage in our streets against Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers. That continued this last week when Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz again rushed to judgment after a shooting, adding that the public should not treat Border Patrol or ICE officers as real “law enforcement” officers. However, rock bottom was finally reached by Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes (D), who not only said that she does not consider ICE officers to be “real law enforcement,” but raised the possibility of citizens shooting them under state law.
First, the obvious. Mayes said, “I put [“officers”] in air quotes because I don’t think they are real law enforcement.” These are real law enforcement officers under federal law, enforcing federal law. Period. The effort by Walz, Mayes, and others to question their status or treat them as impostors is clearly designed to inflame citizens and encourage greater confrontations. It is a dangerous form of demagoguery. It is sending citizens into harm’s way, encouraging them to impede federal operations involving the arrest of criminal suspects.
Mayes later stated that she was “mischaracterized” and that “the idea that I would want the life of any member of law enforcement put in danger is wrong, offensive, and an outright lie.” Mayes’s “mischaracterizations” came at a time of growing unrest and the “Attorney General” rushed forward to add to the reckless rhetoric.
Again, repeating Walz’s talking points, she referred to these officers as “poorly trained.” She obviously has no idea about the training of these officers. The officer involved in the Alex Pretti shooting was an experienced officer with the Border Patrol. The officer involved in the prior Renée Good shooting was also an experienced officer.
While mischaracterizing the officers, figures like Walz are sending demonstrably “untrained” citizens into highly dangerous situations. Walz specifically called out citizens into the streets to record these operations, which is precisely what Pretti was trying to do before his fatal confrontation with officers.
Mayes, however, was not looking for a tie in that race to the bottom. She told citizens that Arizona’s “Stand Your Ground” law might be cited as grounds for the use of lethal force against officers. She declared:
“You have these masked, federal officers with very little identification — sometimes no identification — wearing plain clothes and masks and we have a ‘Stand Your Ground’ law that says if you reasonably believe your life is in danger and you’re in your house or in your car or on your property, that you can defend yourself with lethal force.”
She later added, “It’s a fact that we have a ‘Stand Your Ground’ law and, in other states, un-uniformed, masked people who can’t be identified as police officers.”
It was a reckless statement of the law. These laws only protect “reasonable” uses of self-defense. However, they have an express exemption for using force “to resist an arrest that the person knows or should know is being made by a peace officer or by a person acting in a peace officer’s presence and at his direction, whether the arrest is lawful or unlawful, unless the physical force used by the peace officer exceeds that allowed by law.”
It is not uncommon for law enforcement to use officers in plain clothes to make initial arrests or contacts with suspects who might flee or resist.
Mayes’s comments could encourage an already enraged and irrational segment of our population to use lethal force under the false pretense of standing their ground.
Attacks on these officers have increased exponentially with the violent rhetoric of these politicians. Just last week, a rioter bit off the finger of an officer.
Mayes also vowed to prosecute any ICE agent who violates state laws in these operations. She is also mimicking Walz in spreading legal disinformation. While federal officers do not have absolute immunity in all cases, it is extremely unlikely that state officials could successfully prosecute such cases without facing a transfer to federal court and likely dismissal.
Walz made the same misleading claim in saying that Minnesota would investigate the shooting and that the federal government would not be allowed to conduct the investigation. He has no authority to dictate who or how the shooting will be investigated.
While the state can conduct its own investigation, the federal government will investigate a shooting by a federal officer. Walz further pandered to the mob by raising the debunked “bait boy” story and telling citizens that ICE was “shooting them in the face when they come out of donut shops.”
Rage is hard to maintain for months and the Pretti shooting, as described by one Democratic operative according to Fox’s Chad Pergram, is a “new wild card” in the politics on the Hill over funding.
There remain legitimate questions about this shooting. The videotapes do not show, as suggested in early accounts from the federal government, that Pretti approached the officers brandishing a weapon.
Pretti does not obey the commands of the officers in returning to the middle of the road during their operation. However, he did not appear threatening until after the officer pushed him to the side of the road. At one point, he appears to shove the officer as he tries to assist a woman who was pushed to the ground.
What happens next is hard to determine. There is a video that suggests that an officer may have removed his weapon from its holster just before another officer yells “gun.” It is hard to see Pretti’s hands and we do not know what happened in that split second. We may get a better idea as new videotapes emerge.
Law enforcement officers do not expect blind deference on shootings. However, they have a right to expect a fair chance for an investigation to hear their side of a shooting — not a governor or a mayor rushing before cameras to effectively accuse them of murder.
At this point, it may not matter. Only the mob matters. Minneapolis Brian O’Hara explained: “even if there is an investigation that ultimately proves that at the time of the shooting it was legally justified, I don’t think that even matters at this point, because there just- there is so much outrage and concern around what is happening in the city.”
Walz has demonstrated politics of the lowest kind, stoking anger as citizens and officers alike are injured. Walz is pledging to go to court to stop further operations—a lawsuit that would be another frivolous filing. Previously, the state, including Attorney General Keith Ellison, filed to prevent the federal government from increasing forces to investigate fraud and immigration violations.
Walz, Maye, and others are following a long line of demagogues who sought to use social unrest to advance their political careers. For Walz, sending people into the streets has the benefit of not having them at home watching and reading about the growing fraud scandal in his state.
It is not a defense of democracy, but mobocracy in Minnesota.
Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the author of the forthcoming “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution,” which will be released on Feb. 3 as part of the celebration of the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.
This column appeared on Fox.com
Hasn’t the insurrection vitriol inducing the desired radicals to attack ICE officers met the standard to justify deploying the military?
Hire an agency to do crowd control as ICE arrests. Off duty standard cops will do. Cheaper. They’re trying to arrest some felons.
It is sad that political polarization has gotten to the point that a large swath of the population will ignore multibillion dollar fraud and actively protect violent criminals all because the other side is against both. I am conservative but would applaud any liberal who punished the theft of my tax dollars or arrested deported a violent illegal alien.
With the latest shooting, there is an open question concerning whether Pretti’s conduct was sufficiently bad that his shooting was justified.
If may be sometime, or possible never before we get a clear and reliable answer to that question.
But what is NOT in question is that Pretti was engaged in Bad conduct.
He and otherw were actively interfering with Law Enforcement.
He was ignoring the orders of Law Enforcement to get off the streets.
He was resisting arrest, and he was ignoring the orders of law enforcement to stop.
None of that is sufficient to justify shooting him.
But Pretti was not an innocent bystander documenting ICE.
He was a lawless actor disrupting law enforcement.
But for his own misconduct there would be no shooting.
While we are allowed to do all those things without losing out life.
ICE was acting lawfully right up to the instant pretty was shot.
Pretti was not.
” there is an open question concerning whether Pretti’s conduct was sufficiently bad that his shooting was justified.”
Until we know what the police saw, what happened is unknown. I saw multiple officers tumbling around with a man engaged in a physical struggle with police officers. I couldn’t make out the details of the encounter. For all we know, a police officer might have perceived Pretti’s gun and yelled ‘GUN,’ reflecting a belief of imminent danger. Another, or more, officers might have perceived the phone as a gun, so rather than be shot, they shot at him. This is only one possibility of what happened.
But for Pretti’s decision to physically resist during the encounter, the sequence of events ultimately led to his death; absent that resistance, he likely would have survived.
There are many possibilities here – it is very hard to decipher from the Audio, but it SOUNDS/APPEARS that there is the SOUND of a single gunshot followed by all the ICE offers rapidly BACKING away from Prettzi and THEN lots of shots.
One Claim is that PRettzi’s gun has no safety and is KNOW to misfire easily.
It is possible that in the struggle it went off – without ANYONE doing anything deliberate.
And the officers responded to that.
There are many other claims, but ALL require subjective interpretation of the video and audio.
Under the WORST of circumstances for ICE this is an unintentional unjustified shooting.
I do NOT think that is likely. But if true – it is highly unlikely to result in a prosecution by DOJ.
Further that is how it SHOULD be.
While We want ZERO police shooting. and especially zero unjustified police shootings.
We do NOT actually want to punish LEOs for accidents that we WOULD punish others.
We REQUIRE police to enforce the law and sometimes that means US deadly force.
For the act of an LEO to be a crime it must be INTENTIONAL.
For an ordinary person – often Reckless or negilgent is sufficient.
If this shooting is unjustified and not deliberate – then the officer should be fired.
And the family should win a civil suit.
But I do nto expect that to be the conclusion.
” I do nto expect that to be the conclusion.”
Neither do I. The looney leftists prematurely jump to conclusions where almost always they are wrong. Look at George Svelaz, he needs to make a mistake in order to get something right.
The question in my mind is whether the NG will be federalized in short order.
X who is probably George/Svelaz pretty universally gets it wrong.
Nor does he correct.
In a few hours or days he is back posting the same false garbage that was thought destroyed before.
He is incapable of more than first order thinking and attociously bad at that.
He conflates often obscure subjective judgments with facts.
When dealing with matters where examining probability matters, he always gloms on to the posibility that suits his ideolog no matter how long the odds.
There are SO MANY of the major lies of the left that were trivial to assess as improbable from the start.
You have to beleive world leaders act against the interests of their countries to beleive that Putin has EVER wanted Trump as president.
You have to beleive that Trump whom the left constantly calls a moron with ZEro training and people with absolutely no experience managed espionage tradecraft that NO ONE could detect – not CIA, not all the journalists in the world, not NSA
Somehow the Trump campaign “colluded with Russia while leaving absolutely no clues, no loose ends.
That is impossible odds.
When you have something absolutely everyone in the world is looking for and no one ever finds it – then it likely NEVER existed.
The claim the Hunter Biden laptop was russian disinformation was completely absurd and the people who signed that statement shoulfd NEVER get a job in clandestine work ever again. While we have end to end provenance on the laptop data – lets assume we do not.
There is hundreds of megabytes of data. if it is “faked” Either a massive amount of it has to be true with only a tiny bit faked or it would take millions of people to construct a fraud that was not trivial to dismental. Every single bit of metadata has to be perfect, every email can be verified by getting the mate from the other partu to the email. Emails are not sent to yourself. If you fake a photo the people in the photo can be checked as to whetgher they actually were at a specific place and time.
In other words an undetcectable fake has to be so perfectly close to the truth that is MUST be the Truth.
VIPS examined the information from Guiceifer II and was pretty trivialy able to prove that he had nothing to do with the DNC email hack.
The meta data in his files was wrong.
They also examined the leaked DNC files and were able to demonstrate through a variety of factors they could NOT have been exfiltrated over the internet – there is no link from the DNC to anywhere in the world that was fast enough.
The transfer times matched those of USB sticks. the DNC email leak was an inside job.
By February 2020 it was pretty obvious that the Covid imperial war college and Los Almos predictions were alarmist – they were ultimately off by an order of magnitude. it was also pretty obvious that Covid was not stoppable, that even if masks etc worked as well as claimed – alone or together they were just not good enough. While the LOs Almost and Imperial WAr College models were OBVIOUS garbage, it is in fact quite easy to model the spread of a disease, and like many other things a simple spreadsheet model outperforms complicated models – the same has proven true about climate. An economist David Romer in a paper about 20 years ago demonstrated what Austrian economists have been saying for a century – though it is much broader than economics.
If you have a mathematical model of something with a sufficient number of coeficients – really 7 or 8 is enough, that you can get to PERFECTLY hind cast – it is Still near certain to be wrong going forward. There are just too many different values for the coefficients that will perfectly hindcast and still have nothing to do with reality. Economic models often use 20-30 coeficcients. Climat models often have 50 or more. Those models are garbage. It is mathematically impossible to get them right.
You can derive coefficients for simple mathematical models from regressions – but you will still only have simple models.
They will work reasonable well but they will only be able to answer really big questions – like will more government spending be beneficial – and the answer will always be NO.
Regardless it was possible to tell in February 2020 that barring a miracle vaccine or a miracle drug – covid would either become endemic, or it would go away with herd immunity. What has happened was predictable – it has mutated to be highly contagious and sufficiently mild that most people do not even know they have it anymore. And it has become endemic.
Developing the Vaccine as quickly as we did was a miracle – Only under a Trump administration would that have been possible.
But by the early testing it was absolutely clear it WOULD NOT WORK.
And on and on
Math and probability.
They do not tell us perfect answers to everything all the time.
But they are very good at getting rid of absolutely stupid choices.
In the real world we pretty much never make perfect choices. We are lucky if we make good enough choices.
We are fighting here about the decisions a bunch of ICE officers made. They had less than a full second to make their decisions.
If they were wrong one way – one or more of them would die or be seriously injured.
If they were wrong the other – Prittzi would die unnecessarily
They did NOT have a middle choice.
I beleive they likely made the right choice.
But even if they did not – they did not do so with malice of forethought.
At worst they overestimated the threat to their own lives.
A threat that was REAL regardless.
The gun was real the only question is if they decided differently would Prittzi have used it.
It is possible with the information we have that he DID try to use it.
George Svelaz X is an abomination who is wrong almost always. Miranda Divine had a great video interview with Costello. They probably proved GSX a liar over 100 times.
I don’t think the left jump to conclusions prematurely, I think they know they cannot acknowledge a loss on their side and just move on to the next stupid thing. Everything they ‘decide’ is based on their emotions at the time. All this left violence is just their loss to Trump tantrum. Rosie O’Donnel syndrome. They mentally cannot go there, acknowledging a loss would mean going through some difficult emotions for them. Justify, minimize, anything that helps them cope. Narcissism + victim mentality = irrational righteous anger.
Open the mental hospitals.
Andrew Branca is far more of a gun expert than I nd far more knowledgeable on Gun law and the lw of self defense, and he concludes this shooting was fully justifed, even though he concludes that one ICE agent had already removed Pretti’s gun.
He also rejects the accidental discharge theory.
I do not know if I agree with Branca regarding the accidental discharge or that the vido shows the officer with Pretti’s gun before the shooting.
But he is by far the most knowledgeable on the Law of Self defense.
Branca also confirms – as I have stated in other posts that Pretti was clearly guilty of Felony Assault.
In Fact Branca notes that Pretti first committed Simple assault – with an up to 1yr sentence followed by Fellony Assault with up to an 8yr sentence and that is BEFORE the Officer pepper sprays him.
I personally STRONGLY disagree with the extreme escalation of Assaults on police officers.
While I do agree that it MUST be illegal for people to intentionally make unwanted contact with a police officer – there is just far too much that can go wrong – and as Branca notes – Police are legitimately very concerned about people getting close to them, because they can take any of their weapons and things go to h311 very fast after that. Numerous police every year are killed with their own guns.
Regardless, do not touch a police officer – especially under tense circumstances.
While I have problems with the magnitude of the crime you can be charged with,
in my state if you are involved in a traffice stop, you are asked out of your vehicle – which LEOs do if they have concerns for their safety,
and you merely shove a police officer – you are guilty of aggravated assault that can easily get you 10-20 years in jail.
That is just overkill to me.
At the same time – I still fully support
DO NOT make unwanted intentional contact with a police officer – there is an enormous possibility that things go south VERY rapidly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfI7FQSSysQ
Branca is confirming the gun removed by the officer is Pretti’s and rejects the claim that there is an accidental discharge that sets off a chain of events. But there are many others frame by framing the video who clim that there is evidence of an accidental disharge,
and others saying the weapon in the officers hands is NOT prettis.
What I would say is that none of the video of this is good enough to be certain bout any of these conclusions.
I saw one video by a gun expert who was able to get the same weapon that Pretti had to accidentally discharge 5 times in a row without touching the trigger.
As many people said – that particular gun is a cheap gun and it is dangerous.
Regardless, at this point though I think Mr. Branca’s judgements concerning the law are correct,
and he beleives the shooting is justified even if the weapon was removed and did not accidentally discharge,
as to exactly what did happen – what we have thus fr is NOT clear.
There is a debate over whether the officers had Body Cams – Biden’s Budget did NOT have money for body cams so MOST current ICE do NOT have Body Cams – but the BBB ICE budget that Dems are now trying to rescind has lots of money for Body Cams.
Regardless atleast one source I have seen cites ICE saying they are reviewing body cams.
For ease, I look at shootings on a 1-5 scale. Byrd’s killing of Babbit is barely a 1. A police officer who shoots the bullet too late is a 5, and we see his family at the graveyard. My guess is that this shooting was a 3.
. I think they’re going to begin pull out. It’s unsafe. Another approach or military will do crowd control. No protesters near LEOs. Of course off duty police could more easily do crowd control. Retirees
Pretti put his hands on an officer before going to the ground.
The problem is far deeper than merely the politicians.
There is a movement that is fanning the flames, presenting a one-sided view of reality with the specific goal of demonizing ICE.
See
“The far-left network that helped put Alex Pretti in harm’s way, then made him a martyr”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/far-left-network-helped-put-alex-pretti-harms-way-made-him-martyr
I observed the predecessor to this back in the 1960s,
when the SDS carried out its campaign to demonize the then reigning American values (“cops are pigs”, “GIs are baby killers”, America is “Amerika” or “AmeriKKKa”).
The pattern is the same: an extremely one-sided view of events, demonizing the conservative view.
For more on the pro-immigration network, see
https://nypost.com/2026/01/26/us-news/the-far-left-network-that-helped-put-alex-pretti-in-harms-way
“Walz is correct in moving to investigate locally . . .”
MN’s misogynistic officials demand a role in the investigation and trial of that woman, for being a witch.
How do you think that would go — for her?
“There’s absolutely no law saying you can’t bring a legal concealed firearm to a protest.”
That’s odd.
Just yesterday, the Left condemned MAGA protestors for bringing weapons to the J6 protest.
(Whether they did have weapons is irrelevant to my point.)
Sam
Don’t you find it odd that the Left is now supporting the right to carry.
Something they have hated since the 1960’s.
“the Left is now supporting the right to carry. Something they have hated since the 1960’s.”
Many, many 1960’s dems had guns, joined the NRA etc. They never hated guns. ever.
Their recent gun ‘position’ is because the left hoped they would eventually rule over an unarmed populace back then and everyone knows an unarmed populace is subject to socialistic control (example: all history).
Now that they see they are not going to be in power, they turn to their next solution for gaining power (example: US Civil War).
It’s a desperate move. desperate people and groups do desperate things.
It’s all about their thirst for power and individual rights are it’s main opponent.
Their low-pay imported slaves won’t be a tool for them to crowd out their opposition anymore, they will all be gone in 3 years.
Think about all the human suffering, to immigrants and citizens, Biden caused by opening our borders. But in desperation, he ‘exposed’ the hidden plan because he knew the party was drying up and turning commie.
The communists have basically brought down the Democrat Party with their hubris. Sorry commie! plan didn’t work out and we voted. Power to the people.
“. . . you can defend yourself with lethal force.”
Mayes is the AZ AG — the state’s chief law enforcement officer, whose primary responsibility is to uphold the rule of law.
She is advising AZ citizens to take up arms against Federal law enforcement. She is openly calling for innocent citizens to sacrifice themselves to her Leftist cause.
If that is *not* a demand for an armed insurrection, then there is no such thing.
Phony outrage from DEMS/WALZ/FREY!!! They are happy it happened.
Its never the fault of the mob that shows up and gets spun up into a Shaker Frenzy by its own agitators. Rather, it is that bad law enforcement that actually shows up, tries to effect the arrest and depart that causes all the commotion, right? This is why the National Guard would be effective as a perimeter ring buffer at any operation. Just night sticks, shields, and tear gas for the perimeter as ICE is in and out and the only thing left is the screaming and the crying. All socialists and wokies get to go home just as they arrived – alive and pissed off.
If it is confirmed that Alex Pretti was, as reported, an active member of an anti-ICE/pro-illegal alien monitoring group and that the pistol Border Patrol recovered was his, is there any information out there regarding whether the 9mm cartridges that were loaded in the high-capacity magazines were hollow-point rounds? Just askin’.
His own family told him not to go there, but?
Now Obama is sticking into this mess.
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2026/01/25/obama-urge-more-protests-blames-trump-after-minneapolis-shooting
Makes me wonder if he is getting a taste.
What a surprise! More race baiting anf support to drive the Democrats violent thugs into the streets before an election! The man who smiled benignly down on his 2020 Election Season Of Mostly Peaceful Rioting, Pillaging, Arson, Looting, Armed occupation and Murder.
He probably does smell Republican blood in the water while he watches the Democrat-Mainstream Media Propaganda Complex effectively spin this on behalf of Democrats and his favored Identity Politics class: his children, the criminal Illegal Aliens of the world. The sons he never had.
18 U.S.C. § 111(b) You can in fact lawfully carry a concealed weapon with the requisite permit to a protest in that state. What you CANNOT do is engage in violent criminal obstruction and assault of federal officers carrying out their duty to arrest and remove other violent criminals at your chosen mob scene: the Democrats’ criminal Illegal Aliens.
Democrat criminal mob violence is not protest, and no Amendment makes it so.
The question from those who have carried daily for decades is this. The purpose of carrying is for defense against criminal attack. Law abiding gun owner means that, ALL laws. Minnesota’s concealed carry permit laws also mean exactly that: you must continue to be law abiding concerning federal and state law.
So when planning to concealed carry while joining a mob not peacefully protesting to one side, but instead engaging in violent hands-on obstruction and assault, WHO are you expecting you might end up shooting in defense?
1. The Democrat criminal Illegal Alien ICE is attempting to arrest and you’re illegally attempting to prevent happening?
2. One or more of your fellow mob members similarly engaged in violently obstructing and assaulting federal law enforcement?
3. A federal officer who walks up to you and then attempts to rob you by demanding you hand over your wallet and car keys?
Whichever was the risk this Democrat Marxist Martyr Useful Idiot was concerned about, the final question: has Minnesota now revoked his carry permit due to his criminal activity?
There are lots of things that you CAN do that are also stupid.
You Can protest against our Immigration law by shouting and ranting at law enforcement as they attempt to arrest criminal illlegals.
But if you are SMART you won’t.
If you really beleive there is a problem – then work to change our immigration laws.
Democrats are threatening another government shutdown over ICE funding.
Again in what world is that not stupid ?
Why would we pass a law and then make it impossible to enforce ?
If you are not happy with the enforcement of immigration laws – Change the immigration laws.
Do not go after the enforcement of those laws.
BTW a very recent Harvard Harris poll had 80% support for deporting Criminal illegals, and 56% support for deporting ALL illegals.
One poll is not the perfect gauge of public views,
But who thinks harvard-harris is off by more than 30% ?
There is a narrow avenue that the Supreme Court has never foreclosed to potential damages liability—where the plaintiff brings a state tort claim to vindicate their constitutional rights, a claim that arguably falls within an exception to that 1988 statute (Westfall Act) that otherwise converts those claims into (very-hard-to-win) Federal Tort Claims Act claims against the federal government.
The Westfall Act does not bar a civil action “brought for a violation of the Constitution of the United States”.
The 2023 Ruling in Buchanan v. Barr: The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ultimately rejected the plaintiffs’ damages claims, holding that extending liability in this “new context” (national security near the White House) was barred by Supreme Court precedents that have severely narrowed Bivens remedies.
However, in their concurrences, two of the three judges on the panel credited these arguments about the Westfall Act exception. They suggested that while they felt bound by recent Supreme Court decisions to dismiss the case, the law should theoretically allow for such a remedy.
“These are real law enforcement officers under federal law, enforcing federal law.”
Yes. Performing street execution of witnesses to their clumsy handling of immigration matters in accordance with the authoritarian regime backed by the Heritage Foundation; the billionaires in actual control of the Federal government.
They have given up the blue nylon jackets to put on full battle costume play, camouflage uniforms straight off the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan. The worst of the worst have long gone to hide out in Texas and Florida with far larger populations of undocumented immigrants. What is left in Minnesota are documented immigrants at various stages of the citizenship process; they are being taken like fish from a barrel because they are easy and non-violent.
This is a terror campaign against states that voted against Trump. The change of tactics, the change of targets. The public displays of violence are all key to punishing the citizens of those states for daring to vote against Trump.
Is that you, Noam Chomsky? You’re off your meds again.
There’s not a word of truth in any of that. The violent criminals remain in the “sanctuary” cities and states, where at least the local police are under orders not to touch them. They certainly haven’t moved to Texas or Florida, where the roundups are proceeding without any fuss, with the local authorities’ full cooperation and assistance.
If there were the Trump administration would have a daily briefing showing their success. Instead they chase people from the property where children are held in mass detention camps to avoid the videos of children screaming in terror to be reunited with their parents.
The violent criminals aren’t being rounded up in Texas or Florida because ICE has no paper trail with which to find them.
Ano
children are held in mass detention camps to avoid the videos of children screaming in terror to be reunited with their parents.
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Just like the O-dumber cages he used to deport illegals.
Forget that did ya.
“Performing street execution of witnesses to their clumsy handling of immigration matters”
Are you a complete idiot – there is video everywhere. What has we – 4 different views of this shooting so far ?
Pretti was not a “witness” being silenced.
He was an idiot interfering with law enforcement.
That is a stupid Darwin Award thing to do.
Are you going to pull over at the next Traffic stop you see and get between the police and whoever they have stopped ?
When you step in – your not a witness – your a participant.
The LEOs ordered Everyone onto the side walk.
When a woman ignored their order
they pushed her to the sidewalk.
Pretti left the sidewalk and got between the officer and the woman and pushed back.
That BTW is assault.
If you think I am wrong – again – test it at the next traffic stop you see.
You do NOT intentionally touch a LEO in the course of their doing their job
In nearly every state doing so is Assault.
Are you so stupid that you need to have it explained to you why you MUST keep your distance from Law Enforcement that is doing their job ?
You rant about their alleged incompetence Yet both the recent shooters were highly experienced officers whe were hired in the Obama administration.
You rant about ICE’s incompetence while idiots like you make their job 100 times harder.
You are also so completely ignorant and stupid that you are attacking Law Enforcement for Enforcing a law you do not like.
That is their job. If you are not happy with US law regarding illegal immigrants CHANGE THE LAW.
You do not do that by harassing the people whose job it is to enforce the law.
There are good cops and bad cops – but you are not protesting police corruption.
You are protesting police doing their job.
Go to congress and change the law.
And if you can not do that – because 80% of americans want criminal illegals deported,
the LIVE WITH IT.
That is what the social contract means.
That is what the rule of law means.
The mere act of Protesting ICE while they are enforcing the law is not merely darwin award level stupid
It is also advocating for anarchy.
Do YOU get to pick and choose the laws that get enforced ?
So true John.
Some folks just don’t have common-sense.
Can we cut out the 1984 newspeak.
Illegal aliens is the correct term in the law.
They are not “undocumented” – in most instances they are extremely well documented.
ICE is showing up to arrest criminal illegal aliens.
Their name, photo, fingerprints often DNA are “documented”
Those of you on the left rant about misinformation, and disinformation.
Yet, you ALWAYS play word games to LIE.
To use words that PRETEND to things are different than they are.
The issue is NOT whether these people how “documents” or not.
It is whether they have the legal right to be in the US.
When you engage in word games you obliterate your own credibility.
You will find an enormous number of issues in life are much easier to decide by simply and accurately describing them without spin.
Texas likely has a large population of illegal immigrants. It has the largest border of any state.
Why is ICE not surging in TX – actually they did earlier – specifically they were in Austin.
Where they Quietly arrested all the criminal illegal aliens they had deportation orders for and moved to another location.
ICE is engaged in rounding up criminal illegal aliens. It is going to the places where there are large numbers of criminal illegal aliens.
Minneapolis has 60,000 criminal illegal aliens with outstanding deportation orders right now.
ICE has managed in 3 weeks to detain 3400 of them.
Minneapolis has large numbers of criminal illegal aliens, because criminal illegal aliens are not as stupid as left wing nuts.
One of the trivial predictable consequences of “sanctuary cities” is that those seeking to evade deportation will go to the places where it is hardest to deport them. That is especially true of Criminal Illegal aliens.
But then again – what we see over and over from those on the left is darwin award winning intellect.
So it is unsurprising that you can not figure out that if you invite criminals to your city and promise them protection,
that they will come.
So much for the nonsense of Walz and Frey that they are looking out for their communities.
Left wing nut politicians are chosing to invite the worst of the worst into their communities.
And in your unbelievable stupidity – you seek to protect criminals from law enforcement ?
If you are in the US legally – you can not be deported.
If you are NOT in the US legally you are not in ANY stage of the citizenship process.
ICE is not conducting neighborhood sweeps, they are not raiding places of employment – as they did ounder Obama who deported almost half a million people a year without protests,
They executing warrants for criminal illegal aliens with deportation orders.
These are people who have already had their “day in court” – they had all the required hearings in immigration courts and a deportation order was issued.
Given there are 60,000 CRIMINAL illegal aliens WITH DEPORTATION ORDERS in Minneapolis alone,
ICE is focused on Sex Offenders. About 50% of those being sought are Sex offenders.
Why is this happening in Minneapolis ?
Because ICE has already “surged” in 15 other US cities and Minneapolis was next.
Because Minneapolis has 60,000 criminal illegal aliens with already issued deportation orders.
ICE has surged to Louisiana – did not even make the news – Thousands of criminal illegal aliens arrested and deported.
They have been to Austin, and Miami.
They have also been to chicago – lots of idiotic rhetoric there but the police were quietly coorperative and ICE was able to do its job.
The have been to LA – lots of idiotic rhetoric and protests – messy, but LAPD did cooperate and ICE was able to do its job.
Minneapolis is in the news – not because it was specially targeted.
But because the Minesota and Minneapolis govenrment is especially uncooperative.
This was the epicenter of the BLM/George Floyd Riots.
This is the epicenter of left wing nut Lunacy and the Darwin Awards capital of the world.
Stop the Bat$hit crazy nonsense and ICE will get their job done and leave for a while.
and you can go back to your lunacy – or maybe not.
ICE has removed just under 1M illegal aliens in the past year.
approx. 700K of those were criminals.
And the crime rate in the US has dropped – especially the murder rate.
ICE is doing Minneapolis a favor even if they are thoroughly unappreciative.
They are removing Criminals from the city, the state, the country,
And YOU will be safer for that.
“The murder rate in the U.S. dropped by 21% in 2025, marking the largest one-year decline ever recorded and reaching the lowest level since 1900. This decrease was observed in 31 out of 35 major cities”
These are just a few of the child rapists, murderers, and other assorted goons the anti-ICE mob in Minneapolis is protecting:
https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2010101496034074739
. So what’s this immigration ICE really about in Minnesota? Is it about citizenship? Is it really? There are laws regarding citizenship. There are laws regarding immigration.
Minnesota is so utterly wrong they are without an argument. ICE was there to pick up one man. Had they done so they would be in and out and are doing so in other States.
What an incredibly lawless State. God bless you because you need all the blessings you can get. It has to be brain damage by drugs, PT.
^^^ Mr. Chuma had time to escape. Great job Walz.
What? They need 2000 ice to pick up one man. That’s ridiculous! Are they searching everyone on the streets? Do u think the man they are looking for is just wondering around on the streets? Use some logic.
More like they need 3 to pick up one man, and 1997 to hold back the mob protecting him.
There are 300 ICE agents in Minneapolis right now – that is half of all the ICE agents in the US.
Almost all of them are doing “crowd control” Trying to keep left wing darwin award wining lunatics like your self from interfering in a potentially dangerous arrest.
SCOTUS said that the NG could not be used for crowd control without the Governors assent.
And so you are seeing 3000 ICE agents.
Allegedly Walz has capitulated and activated the MN NG.
They are purportedly now protecting Federal Buildings.
That allows more ICE agents to serve Warrants.
If the NG also provides crowd control for ICE teams serving warrants, then 2/3 of ICE agents will go elsewhere and they will Still be able to keep arresting about 1000 Criminal illegals per week.
Mineapolis could be incredibly low crime quite fast.
“not a governor or a mayor rushing before cameras to effectively accuse them of murder.” Turley decrying that is right.
The President and administration equally rushing before cameras asserting Pretti approached ICE brandishing a weapon with the intent to assassinate officers is equally deserving of criticism. Where is Turley’s criticism of that?
Both sides need to back off and take several deep breaths.
Both sidesism. Literally. False equivalence. One side is violently interfering with legitimate law enforcement efforts designed to remove criminals and thereby promote public safety. Then elected officials parade in front of cameras in favor of destroying public safety and inciting violence. It’s the exact opposite of what they are obligated to do in their leadership positions. Trump and ICE, by contrast, are carrying out valid law enforcement actions to enforce the law of the land as enacted by Congress and remove violent criminals from our midst. They should not have to also deal with Soros paid violent mobs getting in their way and putting them in danger. These mobs, and the Minnesota public officials who support them, are waging insurrection against America.
oldmanfromkansas,
Violent interference:
Snipers killing ICE officers from hidden positions and not being caught
Fire bombing of hotels where ICE is staying
Mobs grabbing ICE officers and beating them to death with bricks and hammers.
Officers being blinded by acid attacks
Any of that happening?
No.
Then there is no violent interference.
Take your meds and let the doctors know the delusions are coming back.
WRONG again. Maybe YOU need too take the medication you talk about, because it IS happening, and your side has gone mental….AGAIN.
https://twitchy.com/warren-squire/2026/01/26/rioters-attack-hotel-in-minneapolis-think-ice-is-inside-n2424354
ATS – there are over 100 incidents of people attrmpting to or succeeding in Ramming ICE agents with Cars.
Almost any night you can find video of crowd firing fireworks at ICE agents.
Every single day dozens of “peaceful protestors” decide to get physically violent with ICE
This is a TINY bit of the violence being done.
An ordinary Day for ICE in Minneapolis is 10 times more violent than J6 was.
Further in the past year plus – we have had Multiple – I have lost count of the number, of assassination attempts on Trump.
One of which came within centimeters of murdering him.
We have the murder of Charlie Kirk.
We have Luigi Mangione’s murder.
We have an actual sniper team that tried to get ICE agents but killed illegal immigrants instead.
And this is just some of the left wing nut violence.
I keep hearing from the left about the dangerous of white supremecists,
But outside of neo nazi prison gangs getting busted for drug dealing – and even that is rare as hens teeth,
The violence is ALL from the left.
No one has actually tried to assassinate KJB or Kagan or Sotomayor.
But they did try to get Kavanaugh.
Don Lemon tells us his life is in danger because he is gay and black,
But he is the one that engages in violence.
Conversely straight white male Tucker Carlason has faced multiple actual attacks.
There are myriads of ACTUAL incidents of left wing political violence.
If a republican trips and falls into a democrat – it will be all over the news as assault.
Yet the biased left wing nut MSM that thinks burning a police station is “peaceful protest”,
is not reporting any right wing violence.
It is all from the left.
That sounds like a list of your leftist fantasies. Are you taking your meds???
“Then there is no violent interference.” well sure, none on that list of yours.
Why aren’t you on your front lines confederate? Those meds again?
Law enforcement has learned to be incredibly pro-active regarding police shooting.
When they spend weeks saying “Please be patient, we are investigating”
We get Riots and often sacrificing officers like Derek Chauvin and his team to mob justice.
More and more you find Law Enforcement backing the officers immediately.
And that is likely a good choice.
It reduces follow on violence.
Further contra the left – police do not have some special animus and desire to murder people they do not know and have never met.
Unjustified police shootings are incredibly rare.
See Cam Higby’s infiltration report on the organized seditious conspiracy to thwart ICE deportation activities. The local government network of Commies.
One would think a free speech defender such as Turley would be against the government murdering people for protesting. I guess having orange lips is more important.
What did that brave and courageous warrior, Lieutenant Michael Byrd, do but murder a physically weaker, unarmed, 115 lb. female by brutally shooting her, not in the leg, but in the neck, killing her instantly rather than using his superior physical power to subdue that little girl, Ashli Babbitt?
Babbitt was the only one on J6 to get true justice. Now she shares a cell in hell with Charlie Kirk.
The other side of that incoherent equation is that Alex Pretti also did “get true justice” and is sharing the same cell.
Ashli Babbitt CHOSE to invade the Capitol, to try to enter the Speaker’s Lobby, the last barrier to the floor of the House, through a window broken illegally and to try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power . She proceeded despite seeing a police officer pointing a gun at her and telling her to stop.
By virtue of her poor choices, Babbitt is responsible for getting shot, just like she chose to believe Trump’s lies about a “stolen landslide victory”. Babbitt’s poor choices have no relevance to the illegal ICE activities in Minneapolis and the murders committed there by ICE. The protesters were exercising their constitutional right to protest on a city street. Babbitt was a trespasser —her presence in the Capitol building was illegal, and she was in the process of trying to commit other crimes— disrupting certification of Biden’s victory.
And she would have been physically restrained and subdued by a truly dedicated and valiant police officer.
Ashli Babbitt was a diminutive, 115 lb., physically inferior female who caused fear in no man, not even the cowardly and effeminate Lieutenant Michael Byrd (i.e., chicken), who was quite simply a wanton murderer.
How was Officer Byrd supposed to know what weapons she might have been carrying? And, if she was allowed to proceed, the rest of the J6 cretins would have followed her. Officer Byrd would have had to shoot all of them.
He was duty-bound to protect Members of Congress, which he did. All Babbitt had to do to prevent her death was to obey the order to stop. Or, she could have chosen not to try to get to the floor of the House; she also could have chosen not to illegally enter the Capitol in the first place. She had no right to be where she was, much less to proceed against the order of Officer Byrd.
Minneapolis is full of violently parasitic and communist lunatics.
The ICE officers were undoubtedly terrified of having their position, barely 5-strong, completely overrun.
Just like Lieutenant Michael Byrd—The Chicken Man—they had to neutralize the burgeoning threat forthwith, in so far as that was possible.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, right, Mr. Darrow?
“It’s the [threat], stupid!”
– James Carville
“How was Officer Byrd supposed to know what weapons she might have been carrying?”
He is not. But if you are going to say that the use of deadly force is justified because an officer does not KNOW someone has weapons – then ICE should just start mowing down protestors – Obviously some of them have weapons – Good and Prittzi did.
Officer Byrds fear must be justified by FACTS – the presence of a real weapon.
“And, if she was allowed to proceed, the rest of the J6 cretins would have followed her.”
With certainty. Still nto a justification for the use of deadly force.
“Officer Byrd would have had to shoot all of them.”
That would have been mass murder.
“He was duty-bound to protect Members of Congress”
There were no congressmen in the speakers lobby.
There was no one in there at the time except him – he was protecting no one from nothing.
“which he did.”
No he committed murder.
“All Babbitt had to do to prevent her death was to obey the order to stop. Or, she could have chosen not to try to get to the floor of the House; she also could have chosen not to illegally enter the Capitol in the first place. She had no right to be where she was, much less to proceed against the order of Officer Byrd.”
You are wrong baout nearly every one of your claims – getting the facts right actually matters.
Regardless you are correct that if Babbit had made different choices she would have lived.
She could have chosen not to get up that day or to vote for Biden.
But the choices she made – even stupid ones. do NOT change the fact that Byrd did not have the justification needed to use deadly force.
And only a delusional left wing nut can compare the good. Prittzi and Babbet shootings and think that
Good and Prittzi were not justified by Babbit was.
The Babbet shooting is the least justified of all. It is not even a close call.
Please Jocelyn Nungaray
Babbit could have been restrained, removing from the defense of the Representatives at least two officers. There were hundreds of attackers behind her and only a handful of officers ahead of her to stop them. Those few were about to be overrun. Had Babbit been the only person in that hallway the officers would have chuckled a bit and opened the door and arrested her. She chose to attack with a few hundred of other like-minded morons and became the tip of the spear. Those behind her could similarly have chosen to force their way through the opening and would also have been shot, but they decided that their goal wasn’t worth fighting for if there was any risk of opposition.
“Babbit could have been restrained, removing from the defense of the Representatives at least two officers.”
The representatives were out of the speakers lobby behind locked doors, and protected by many other officers.
Between MPD and CP there were more total officers in the Capital than protestors.
“There were hundreds of attackers behind her”
Actually only about a dozen – there is lots of video of this.
There were 3 other officers on the opposite side of the door from Byrd who prevented protestors from going through the doors until the Speakers lobby was empty and locked. They were heavily armed.
They did nto attempt to shoot Babbit – in FACT they moved away from the door – when the speakers lobby was clear to allow her to move on.
“only a handful of officers ahead of her to stop them.”
Only Byrd was “ahead of her” – Byrd and two more sets of locked doors – with lots more officers beyond them.
There were approximately 3500 LEOs at the capital on J6 – not counting under cover FBI.
“Those few were about to be overrun.”
False. Again watch the actual video – one of them was taken by a member of Antifa.
It covers Babbits entire journey. The CP stopped Babbit and her crowd multiple times on the way to the house chambers.
At EACH set of doors. the protestors obeyed the CP officers and did not proceed through the doors until the CP officer was given an all clear to allow the protestors to proceed to the next set of locked doors.
Instead of spraying garbage that you CLEARLY know nothing about – go find the full videos and watch them.
Even Alishis group – which is possibly the most “violent” inside the capital, obeyed the orders of the CP at every step in their journey through the capital.
“Had Babbit been the only person in that hallway the officers would have chuckled a bit and opened the door and arrested her.”
Not true and not relevant.
There is not an exception to the law on th use of deadly force that says if you are confronted by a dozen protestors instead of one you can murder one.
“She chose to attack”
She attacked no one.
She damaged some property.
FACTS matter. – hed she ACTUALLY physically attacked anyone – the shooting might have been justified.
Good Attacked people.
Prittzi attacked people
Babbet did not.
“with a few hundred of other”
Actually only about a dozen in this particular group.
AGAIN watch actual videos.
When you just make stuff up you just look like a fool.
“like-minded morons”
Your opinion on their intelligence is not relevant.
“and became the tip of the spear.”
No spears or any other weapons involved.
No guns
no knives.
no frozen water bottles
no lazers
no molitov cocktails.
no fireworks.
no bricks.
None of the weapons we see every day in Mineapolis were present at J6.
” Those behind her could similarly have chosen to force their way through the opening and would also have been shot”
Which would have been multiple homicides for Byrd.
MAGAs know that. They wanted to their coup to succeed and have Trump nullify the Constitution. They waned to kill members of Congress. Lucky they are almost a dumb as they are violent fascists.
“They wanted to their coup”
Not a coup, not an insurection, not sedition
Just petitioning congress to refuse to certify the 2020 election – something protected by the constitution.
“to succeed and have Trump nullify the Constitution.”
The ONLY way to “nullify” the constitution is to have 3/4 of states vote to do so.
Regardless they were following the constitution.
They sought to get congress to do exactly what they had done in 1876 – perfectly constitutional.
While they were unlikely to succeed.
They were absolutely free to try.
“They waned to kill members of Congress.”
Which is why they brought absolutely no firearms or other weapons.
Biden’s theft….fixed it for ya!
My butt is wiped
. Ashley Babbitt had a crowd behind her in reality she had nowhere to go except through a window. Would you people please do just a little reading and learn just a little about crowds and hysteria. Could you just try…
She led the crowd that was behind her. A primary instigator.
No she was just small enough to get through the window.
She was not a primary instigator, the video pretty well shows there was no organization to this.
“It’s the [threat], stupid!”
– James Carville
.”Ashley Babbitt had a crowd behind her in reality she had nowhere to go except through a window.”
That is not correct either. She was one of few small enough to get through the broken window.
She was likely opening it from the other side to allow those behind her through.
At which point they would be stopped by the next set of locked doors.
And the ICE officers chose to avoid this
https://x.com/i/status/2015469785417466280
“Ashli Babbitt CHOSE to invade the Capitol,”
As 10M people do each year.
“to try to enter the Speaker’s Lobby,”
Correct – Tresspassing – not attempted murder.
“the last barrier to the floor of the House,”
Where everyone had already left.
“through a window broken illegally”
Correct. Again Not attempted murder.
If it becomes clear that Pretti did NOT go for his gun – then his shooting is not justified.
Alishi had no weapon and was a threat to no one.
“to try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power”
No she sought to get congress to vote not to certify an election.
She has a first amendment right to do that even if it was NOT an election rife with error, fraud and lawlessness.
Even if it was not an election with 8M magical votes for a near corpse.
“She proceeded despite seeing a police officer pointing a gun at her and telling her to stop.”
Officer Byrd was off in a corner, he is barely visible in Any of the many videos of the incident.
Officer Byrd SAY he identified himself and told alishi to stop.
There is no video where you can hear Byrd saying stop
There were three CP officers with weapons in Officer Byrds line of fire – had he missed Alishi he likely would have killed one of them.
Regardless not one of the 3 testified that Byrd ordered Alishi to stop.
But assuming that he actually did – something we have ZERO evidence of,
that would resisting a lawful order – Still not sufficient to justify the use of deadly force.
“By virtue of her poor choices, Babbitt is responsible for getting shot”
False. Absolutely her choices were poor – though not a fraction as poor as those of Good or Prittzi.
But poor choices do not justify the use of deadly force.
A justified threat of death or serious bodily injury to yourself or others is the standard justifying deadly force.
Alishi had no weapon. She was threatening no one.
She does not even appear to be aware of Byrds presence.
Byrd could justifiably have arrested her.
But he had no justification for the use of deadly force.
Good had a deadly weapon and was recklessly or intentionally threatening the ICE officers life as well as serious bodily harm to the officer reaching into Goods car.
Prittzi had a deadly weapon, refused to follow a lawful police order, obstructed an officer, assaulted an officer – You may not like that but initiating intentional contact with law enforcement is assault. If you do not beleive that – test it some time by trying to interfere in a traffic stop. Followed by resisting arrest.
None of that justifies the use of deadly force, but ALL of that is much worse than Alishi’s bad conduct.
The open question is did Prittzi reach for his gun, which the officer claim, or did his gun go off accidentaly as some are claiming.
Either are sufficient to justify the use of deadly force.
What I have seen in the videos is unclear – but strongly suggests Prittzi made a very threatening move, and ALL the ICE officers QUICKLY stepped back from Prittzi and started firing.
You do not step back in the midst of an effort to arrest without facing a very serious threat.
But that is speculation not proof.
We will have to see as this moves forward.
“just like she chose to believe Trump’s lies about a “stolen landslide victory”.”
And yet for the past 4 years there has been a growing mountian of evidence of lawlessness, error and fraud in the 2020 election.
The Fulton County election committion has admitted under oath they counted 315,000 votes that were not certified – they have no idea if there are even ballots for those votes. Election laws serve a critical purpose – assuring that it is not possible to just shove magic numbers into an election.
“Babbitt’s poor choices have no relevance”
Of course they do – There is law on when the use of deadly force is justified and when it is not.
The same standards apply in the murder of Ruth Boylan, Alishi Babbit, and the shooting of Renee Good and Prittzi.
We determine whether the use of deadly force is justified by applying the LAW.
“the illegal ICE activities in Minneapolis”
ICE enforces Title 8 of US code – in this case 8 U.S.C. § 1325
There is nothing illegal about enforcing the actual law.
“the murders committed there by ICE.”
Again there is law on the use of deadly force.
Good violated it, Prittzi may have the ICE officer who shot good did not.
The officers who shot Prittzi likely did not.
“The protesters were exercising their constitutional right to protest”
Correct,
But they were doing more than that.
“on a city street.”
There is no right to protest on a city street without a permit,
Only a moron would make such a claim – Prittzi and others were ordered back to the sidewalk – where they could protest to their hearts content.
“Babbitt was a trespasser”
When she attempted to enter the speakers lobby – a private portion of the capital she was tresspassing.
But Tresspass is not even close to sufficient to justify the use of deadly force.
“Her presence in the Capitol building was illegal,”
Nope – it is unconstitutional to ckose the pre-eminent government created free speech forumn int he world while Congress is in session.
It is also a violation of her right to petition govenrment – which is most effectively done in the capital.
Government can use SOME place time and manner restrictions to SLIGHTLY infringe on free speech to preserve order.
It can not do ANYTHING that forecloses the right to excercise first amendment amendment rights.
The CP police could have required protestors to go through metal detectors, they could have prevented them from taking bags into the capital. They could have limited the numbers allowed in the capital to a few hundred at a time. They could have milited protestors to 30 minutes in the capital.
But they absolutely could not stop them from going into the capital to protest and petition govenrment.
It is just as irrelevant that YOU think their claims regarding the election are false,
as that minneapolis protestors fail to grasp they are protesting the deportation of often violent criminals.
Or maybe they dont.
The right to protest is NOT conditioned on being right, or not doing so stupidly.
But SOME restrictions that do NOT prevent the excercise of first amendment rights, but do maintain order all permitted
so long as they do not effectively deny the right, or limit it based on viewpoint – either in fact or in effect.
ICE could not stop protestors from protesting.
They COULD require them to keep a reasonable distance from Law Enforcement.
They COULD order them of the streets.
“she was in the process of trying to commit other crimes— disrupting certification of Biden’s victory.”
There is no such crime.
Nothing in the constitution is pro forma or cerimonial.
Certification is a DECISION by congress it is not an unnecescary rubber stamp.
It is the last chance to thwart Fraud or error. It is a VOTE and congressmen are free to vote as they please.
They are also free to conduct the proceeding however the please.
In point of constitutional law – one Congress can not even by law dictate to another how it must conduct its business.
The choices of congress regarding its own proceedings are not reviewable by the courts. Only voters at the next election.
I would further note that SCOTUS just found that Candidates ALWAYS have standing to challenge elections.
There goes nearly all your supposed myriads of courts siding against Trump.
SCOTUS just said they erred in denying standing.
Something many of us have been saying for 5 years.
One of the major issues with all the standing decisions is that – SOMEONE ALWAYS has standing.
Organized violence against law enforcement is not free speech, moron.
What does free-speech have to do with murder?
you are too immature or devious to care, but that statement is not only a filthy lie, it stirs up violence. you know that but do it anyway. your unwillingness not to shout fire in a theater should remove you permanently from this platform
The green is better on the orange side of the fence.
The first amendment is about what you have the right to do.
The Darwin awards are about your stupidity.
Sometimes they intersect.
You are absolutely free to stupidly protest the arrest of child predators, rapists, and murderers.
That does not make you a good person.
You idiotically claim you are fighting the ICE Gestapo, Nazi’s and Trump Hitler,
An easy way to tell you are nuts and wrong ?
Because you are able to protest.
Do you think there were 15,000 people protesting Hitler or the Gestapo in Germany ?
500 ?
5 ?
But your too stupid to grasp that no one is even to limit your actual first amendment rights – as incredibly stupidly as you are using them.
Some of you are getting arrested, and a small number Dead,
For obstructing law enforcement as they attempt to arrest usually violent criminals.
In what world does that sound like a good idea ?
Absolutely no one is trying to restrict what you can say – no matter how absurdly stupid it is.
Soros-paid violent insurrectionists, waging war against the American people.
Trump paid ICE thugs are waging war against the American people. FIFY.
Taxpayer paid. IFIFY.
Here I thought they were deporting illegal immigrants and criminals. Play in traffic, get run over.
BS, ICE is trying to arrest child rapists, murderers, and violent gang members who are in America illegally and terrorizing American citizens. Your people are waging war against ICE carrying out lawful orders, and therefore against America. You are on the side of evil.
ICE never cared about arresting criminals. Their only job is to terrorize the population. ICE needs to have a war waged against them. They are a violent occupying force of a hostile power. They are no different if they were Russian, or Chinese, or Iranian troops kidnapping, disappearing, and murdering people.
Hahaha that’s the kind of thing you insane psychopath lunatics would say. You have completely lost touch with reality.
There are 15,000 protestors in Minneapolis.
ICE hass arrested 3400 criminal illegal aliens so far in Mineapolis – they have 60,000 total criminal illegal aliens in Minneapolis with current outstanding deportation orders they are seeking.
They are currently getting about 1200 a week.
In 2025 they have arrested 980,000 illegal aliens – 70% of which are convicted or charged criminals.
They care a great deal about arresting criminals.
They would also like to arrest violent protestors so that they can more easily arrest criminal illegal aliens as the violent protestors rot in jail.
Unless you are a criminal illegal alien in Mineapolis with an outstanding deportation order – the only thing you have to fear from ICE is arrest if you interfere with their arresting criminal illegal aliens.
“ICE needs to have a war waged against them.”
Thats right double down on Stupid.
I do not beleive that you have the support of people that you think you do.
A recent Harvard Harris poll finds 80% of people still want criminal illegal aliens deported, and 56% want ALL illegal aliens deported.
But if you have moved the people your way even slightly the surest way to flip things 180 is to start actually shooting ICE officers.
Nothing could possibly make Minneapolis look stupider or more out of control.
But PLEASE do something stupid.
Only left wing nuts want ICE officers dead.
Almost no one wanted good or Prittzi dead. That their shootings were justified does not mean they were wanted.
But shoot one ICE officer – and YOUR DONE.
“They are a violent occupying force of a hostile power.”
Keep up the idioctic successionist rhetoric – try reading Jefferson Davis.
Last I checked Minneapolis was part of the US and ICE enforced US laws – Tittle 8 specifically
No one is being kidnapped, they are being returned to their homes.
Yesterday, Walmart was sued as being responsible for a suicide because it sold a shotgun to a perp.
Today, Soros, Walz, Frey et al. are guilty of incitement to violence and obstructing police, etc., and responsible for recompense.
Not to mention running their state and city as one giant fraud operation stealing from hard working American taxpayers.
We all know all of this; the only entity that doesn’t is the judicial branch.
The singular American failure is the judicial branch, with emphasis on the Supreme Court.
It took 50 years for the judicial branch to enforce the Constitution against the totally corrupt action of the Supreme Court of 1973, Roe v. Wade.
And the entire communist American welfare state is unconstitutional to this day per Article 1, Section 8, and the absolute 5th Amendment right to private property, which completely obviates every intent and projected act of Zoran Mamdani et al.
The singular American failure is the judicial branch, with emphasis on the Supreme Court.
Copied and pasted posts repeatedly put up on a daily basis deserve the exact same word for word as rebuttal.
The overwhelming singular failure of the American republic rights and freedoms experiment has been voters allowing the continued existence of the vile and violent, seditious DNC and their equally vile members like Anonymous, The Racist Democrat Communist Formerly Known As George.
The Democrats who loved Chief Justice Taney telling them their Darkies were just a different breed of farm animal, now attempt to blame the chaos they’ve created on the Supreme Court, not themselves. That would be the Supreme Court that has given them what they couldn’t get at the ballot box.
The Confederate DNC, who have now embraced Marx/Alinsky’s communist strategies since losing the Kluxxer Civil War, now put their fellow communists like Justices Jackson and Sotomayor on SCOTUS, polluting that court in hopes of continuing to get from SCOTUS what voters consistently reject at the ballot box.
And while GeorgeX and other communist Democrats want to blame SCOTUS – at the same time they howl in delight at the actions of Jackson and Sotomayor that they worked so hard to put on SCOTUS.
OMG. It’s the dazed and confused PTSD patient, bottom feeder, and Tim Walz-style valor thief, striking fear in the hearts of the enemy, Miss Mess Sergeant Doggie Doodoo, again!
Uh, oh! P S Y C H O’s off his meds again!
The federal government extracted some $50B more from Minnesota that it returned in federal funding of state programs. Pretty weird fraud operation for Minnesota to pay out more than it received.
that-> than.
. The only reason walmart lost that was because they had foreknowledge of his illness and did nothing to prevent it. They were careless in an ill world.
The perp was responsible for his actions.
Walmart was responsible for its actions.
It was not Walmart’s day to watch the perp.
. Omfk, these are simply bottom of the barrel criminals. They live crime and use crime as tyranny. They’re mobs with mob bosses. Simple drug pushers, murderers and thieves. They use taxpayer money in the trillions. That’s all.
oldmanfromkansas,
where do I sign up for a paycheck from Soros? How much is Leonard Leo paying you? Or is this on the FSB budget?