New Video Allegedly Shows Alex Pretti Spitting at Agents and Damaging Car Days Before Fatal Encounter

A man kicking a car.A new video purportedly shows Alex Pretti spitting at federal agents and damaging a government SUV days before he was fatally shot by U.S. Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis. The video does not alter the analysis of whether the fatal shooting was justified. However, it raises some obvious questions, including why Pretti was not previously arrested on multiple grounds. The videotape also contradicts the family’s account of the earlier encounter.

The new videotape shows a violent individual who forced the confrontation with officers. Pretti is shown screaming “f— you” repeatedly while flashing double middle fingers. A second tape shows him yelling “assault me Motherf—ker.” He then destroys the rear signal light and the surrounding area.

The attorney for the Pretti family, Steve Schleicher, issued a statement that:

 “A week before Alex was gunned down in the street — despite posing no threat to anyone — he was violently assaulted by a group of (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents. Nothing that happened a full week before could possibly have justified Alex’s killing at the hands of ICE on Jan 24.”

While some of us have objected that the videotape of the fatal shooting did not support initial claims of the Administration on Pretti threatening officers before the shooting, this video clearly does not support the claims of the family. Damaging the vehicle and spitting at officers are violent acts that are threatening to law enforcement. It was not a “violent assault,” but a justified takedown by officers. What is curious is the fact that Pretti was then let go by the officers.

Pretti should have been arrested and charged with a felony for damaging the vehicle and attacking officers. Since he was armed, he could have been charged with committing a felony in possession of a weapon.

I am mystified why Pretti was not arrested. He clearly damaged the car and appears to be resisting arrest. I fail to understand why the agents took him down but then failed to complete the arrest. It may be due to the mob that was forming. (Protesters bizarrely express surprise that the agents would move against a man who just damaged their vehicle).

Again, the videotape does not have bearing on the lawfulness or unlawfulness of the shooting. While it shows a history that may explain Pretti’s resistance before the shooting, the question is whether his actions created a belief that officers or others were in imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death. We still have to see the body cam footage to see what preceded an officer screaming “gun.”  Many details still must be confirmed. Keep in mind, the question is not whether officers were right, but whether they were reasonable under the circumstances.

Here is the new videotape from the prior encounter:

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  1. ICE Violated 96 Court Orders In Minnesota

    Federal prosecutors in Minneapolis have told U.S. Attorney Daniel Rosen, the Trump administration appointee leading the office, that they feel deeply frustrated by the Justice Department’s response to the shootings of Renée Good and Alex Pretti by immigration officers and suggested that they could resign en masse, leaving the office unable to handle its current caseload, according to two officials familiar with the office.

    The threat of further resignations is the latest sign of how the federal judicial system in Minnesota has begun to crack under the strain imposed by the administration’s immigration enforcement surge in the state. On Wednesday, the chief federal district judge in the state wrote that Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials had violated 96 court orders since launching the crackdown in Minnesota, dubbed Operation Metro Surge.

    ICE has likely violated more court orders in January 2026 than some federal agencies have violated in their entire existence,” Chief U.S. District Judge Patrick J. Schiltz wrote.

    When asked for comment about the Minnesota prosecutors, a Justice Department spokesperson responded with Attorney General Pam Bondi’s February 2025 “zealous advocacy” memo that said attorneys would face discipline or termination if they are not “vigorously defending presidential policies.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/01/29/minneapolis-shootings-prosecutor-resignations/

    1. Whether proclaimed officially or not, quite plainly, we are at war. Rules of War differ than those we’ve grown accustomed to. Walz declared it. All bets are off. He will face charges of treason.

      1. Oh h3ll no, throw that emotionally ill money drain crime hole out of the union. It’s a privilege to a part of the United States and Minnesota has nothing to offer except crime, fraud and drugs. Throw them out. Somal8s are 80% welfare on your dime and store front learing centers. Their dams are collapsing and they protest for killers.

      2. Minnesota land of cre and fraud isn’t worth a war. Throw them out of the union as a debit. Save the bullets. Imagine, no mire Walz, Klobuchar, Omar and the learing… beautiful. Take 2 dams as domain, remove roads, airports and rails. Live it up Minnesota.

    2. Minnesota Governor Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Frye consistently violated federal immigration law. They promoted and incited the deranged populace of Minnesota to obstruct and pursue legal immigration enforcement actions. Resulting from their politically motivated actions, there has been property damage, millions in additional costs, two citizens are now dead and multiple law enforcement officers have been injured. Additionally, a massive fraud of State and Federal tax dollars has been disclosed with arrests, convictions and further investigations on going.

      The American people would take this opportunity to thank ICE, CBP and President Donald J Trump for carrying through on his campaign promises.Carry On!

      1. . They’ve broken their contract with the United States.

        Show a credit and debit accounting for Minnesota. The United States should NOT pay for their broken dams.

  2. . Ellison just reneged on the Homan agreement to notify when jail release of detainee. Does Homan have witnesses or transcripts? Lesson learned as the ill scorpion stings.

    Keeping the US together seems to be a problem. Secede via insurrection? How about just throw the bums out as a State. Seize pertinent dams as domain and anything else wanted before shut down. Good luck Walz and Ellison. Airports closed and rails. Make friends with Canada. They bought part of it anyway. Get lost.

    Adios

  3. Very few are talking about the organized militia and the well funded agitators who are using sophisticated equipment and methods. One of the key people funding the anarchists is Neville Roy Singham who resides in China. He is a tech billionaire and is involved in funding radical Far Left groups such as: Break Through News, Th People’s Forum, Party for Socialism and Liberation, Democratic Socialists of America, Freedom Road Socialists Organization, Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee and Black Lives Matter Chapters.

    Follow the money. It is not only domestic but Singham, for instance, is closely linked to the CCP has poured millions into creating anarchy. Yes, there may deranged, radicalized locals (useful idiots), but there are plenty of outsiders who are not gainfully employed in normal work who are agitating and seem willing to commit crimes against federal law enforcement officers.

    What is Ironic is the Barrack Obama in his first term deported over 2,000,000 illegals and the person he chose to do this was Tom Holman. In contrast, Donald Trump managed to deport less than one million. Why the sudden change in the Democrats tone? Why have they lost any sense of common sense?

    Here is an example of only one of the statutes that will be employed.
    “If two or more persons conspire to either commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose , and one or more of such persons do any acts to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.” 18 U.S. Code 371

    As for the foreign interference, it will be a matter of time before those perpetrating the riots and interference with federal law enforcement officers will be caught and brought to justices.

    One has to sift through the multitude of pure, grade A bull manure that is being shoveled on so called media.

    As for the shooting. It is unfortunate. But who brings a loaded weapon with extra ammo to the scene of a federal arrest with armed federal law enforcement, committing a felony and expects good results?

    1. E.M.,

      Your post makes it seem like you are simply asking questions, looking for clarification, seeking truth.

      But that’s not really the goal of that wall of text.

      It’s seeking comfort from an echo chamber without the slightest bit of self-examination of the questions you posed.

      1. Actually, EM post wasn’t far off the mark. Let’s start with 2 facts. 1 The Trump administration is dealing with people who broke our immigration laws. 2 The administration is also dealing with people who while exercising their First Amendment rights are interfering with federal officers in the performance of their duty. 3 This faux outrage seems to be happening only because its Trump who is enforcing the law.

        1. And there is the comfort.

          The outrage is using a paramilitary force to deal with a civilian problem and handing out gold stars. Ross showed terrible judgement in his previous encounter by trying to arm wrestle a car to a stop. This time he decided to stop a car with a gun, and that failed, the car didn’t stop and, had he been in the way and in any danger, would have run him over.

          Shooting at someone not firing a gun just to stop them is against department policy, but the first thing DHS did was to send the FBI to his house to clear out anything that might have evidence of mental instability.

      2. Throw Minnesota out of the union. They have nothing to offer but welfare and crime. Who the h3ll do they think they are. Billions in fraud. Throw them out and take out the roads. Good riddance

  4. Correct Frame-Alignment: subject Alex Pretti

    Alex Pretti was a vigilante, he was legally carrying a concealed tactical hand gun, prepared to engage opposition forces (i.e.: I.C.E.) when necessary.

    Vigilante
    vig·i·lan·te
    /ˌvijəˈlan(t)ē/
    noun: vigilante; plural noun: vigilantes
    A member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.

    What does it mean if someone is vigilante?
    A vigilante is a person who claims to enforce law and order by their own initiative but lacks legal authority to do so. Vigilantes operate by using actual or threatened force and are distinguished from people who simply watch out for criminal behavior and report it to the police.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/vigilante

    Note: If you are going to take on the U.S. Federal Law Enforcement Agency’s Department of Homeland Security (DHS) (I.C.E.) then bring more than One Soldier.
    “An Army of One” refers primarily to the 2001-2006 U.S. Army recruiting slogan designed to emphasize individual strength and self-sufficiency – It is not sufficient to topple the I.C.E. forces in Minnesota.

    But you can try! Alex Pretti (Rambo Jr.) did, but you better bring a good supply of Body Bags.

  5. O T – Has anyone else noticed the silence? For the past couple of weeks, most of the country has experienced record or near-record cold temperatures. Why haven’t there been any stories in the MSM raising the question: what happened to man-made global warming?

    1. Ed Mahl — This is the result of global warming, Warm air pushes further north, displacing arctic air which comes further south.

      1. Yes, because that phenomenon only existed when greenhouse gases allegedly leaked into the environment.

        Your response left me hoping that you forgot to put a tongue in cheek emoji on there to let everyone know you were simply being facetious.

        I get the feeling you weren’t, though.

        1. M.M. — No, global warming means there is more energy in the atmosphere system so the effect is more pronounced.
          You could learn some climatology; I did.

      2. That makes no sense. How does the re-arrangement of where the “warm air” and “arctic air” are located cause global warming?

        1. Put an ice cube into a pot of cold water on a stove. Turn on the stove. Watch as the warmed water rises and moves the ice cube from where it was to a new place.

          Moving the cold air doesn’t cause global warming, it is moved by warming.

      3. LOL
        This is a result of what we call WINTER! It’s when the jet stream shifts dipping downward and brings its cool dry polar air across the country. It’s called a change in the weather, happens every year and sometimes the events are multiple and some worse than others. Astonishingly, this period of cold weather is followed by a gradual warming as the ocean currents shift and the jet stream moves away, these shifts are called spring snd summer…

    2. edwardmahl

      Typically stupid comment from a non-thinking MAGA moron.
      “It’s cold where I am so global warming is not happening”

      The West Coast is experiencing a historically record breaking warm winter. The average temperature for December/January where I live in the Eastern Sierra foothills has been the highest since records have been kept. We should have had at least 6 or 7 major snow events by now, but we have had absolutely no snow at all. We hit 60 degrees today, with similar highs predicted for all next week.

      These events in the East are exactly what is predicted to happen as a result of climate change.
      The average temperature in the Arctic was 20 degrees above normal last year. It is still very cold but not nearly as cold as it should be. The increased temperature causes the Arctic air mass to expand. This expansion slows the Arctic jet stream and pushes it much further south so that cold Arctic air that is normally confined to high northern latitudes is able to dip into the US. As the jet stream dips to the south it is steered to the east by the Rockies. Every now and again naturally occurring Rossby waves in the atmosphere bring the Arctic air to very low latitudes. Rossby waves occur naturally in the atmosphere due to the Coriolis effect of the Earth’s rotation and pressure gradients that form.
      When this happens the east gets hit hard, but we stay nice and warm.
      And all this is unequivocally the result of climate change.

      You can read all about it here:
      https://weatherwest.com/

      1. The restoring force of a Rossby wave is the latitudinal gradient of the Coriolis force, not the force itself. Didn’t you learn anything in that dynamic meteorology course you took?

        1. Did you notice that his timeline for the Earth warming began right around the time the little Ice Age ended? It’s a good thing the earth began to warm after cooling off the previous 500+ years or so.

          1. Did you notice that the increase in the rate of global warming started in the Industrial Revolution with physicists making rather good predictions of the pace of warming in the 1880s? It’s called the hockey-stick graph and shows an order of magnitude change in the warming rate.

            1. We are in the middle of an ice age and the glaciers are coming back.
              We must burn as much carbon as we can to stave off our demise.

            2. “It’s called the hockey-stick graph . . .”

              And did you notice the graph showing climate-related disasters and deaths over that same period — in the industrialized West? It’s upside down hockey stick.

              Leave it to anti-industrialists and pseudo-scientists to cherry-pick data.

        2. “due to the Coriolis effect” is what was said.

          Your reply makes no sense. Forces can result from resisting the Coriolis effect, but Coriolis is not a force; recognizing that many substitute the term “Coriolis force” for that interaction in the way that many substitute the term weight when the quantity of importance is mass.

          “Atmospheric Rossby waves result from the conservation of potential vorticity and are influenced by the Coriolis force and pressure gradient.”

          Ignoring the pressure gradient contribution shows you slept through your dynamic meteorology course.

      2. Mr. Bug- where is warming happening, based on temperatures measured in periods of 10, 20 or 30 years? Please name a city that has kept official records for that period. Let’s go back even further, to the 11th century. The Domesday Book, compiled in England in the late 11 th century, records wine vineyards in England. Now it is too cold to grow wine in England.

        1. edwardmahl
          You continue to demonstrate your stupidity by expounding MAGA nonsense.

          As to your first assertion, reliable temperature records are available starting from 1850, which by my calculation is 176 years. These data show a steady increase in temperature since then.
          https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/science/global-temperature-records

          As to your second assertion, as of July 2024, there were 1,030 commercial vineyards producing excellent wines in the UK. In 2023 those vineyards produced 8.8 million bottles of wine and that number has been steadily increasing every year.
          https://winegb.co.uk/2024/07/03/uk-vineyards-surpass-1000-milestone-mark-and-sales-continue-to-buck-the-wider-wine-market-trend/

          So your stupidity is on full display, and is easily rebutted with actual facts.
          Care to try again ???

          1. Ugh. I’m guessing you are unaware of the fact Earth was hotter than it currently is during the Eemian interglacial about 125,000 years ago (sea levels 20+ feet higher) and much hotter in deep past greenhouse eras like the Cretaceous (~100 million years ago, with global averages 20+ °F warmer) or the PETM 56 million years ago (up 10-15 °F).

            You are allowed to put the shovel down and stop digging… But carry on if you must. It’s cute watching someone lacking the self-awareness when he believes he’s the smartest guy in the room, but he’s not even the smartest guy in his own bathroom when he’s alone.

            1. Michael M
              Yet more meaningless drivel from the MAGA morons.

              No one disputes that the Earth’s climate has changed dramatically over geological time scales. But in in the past, the time scale of the rate of change is of the order of tens or hundreds of millions of years, not centuries or decades.
              In 2025, the global average surface temperature was 2.11 degrees greater than the average temperature of the 20th century. This is a monumental increase for a 25 year period.
              In 2025 the oceans absorbed 23,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules of heat energy.
              How much is that ??
              That is the energy from 365 million Hiroshima atomic bombs. Equivalent to detonating 12 Hiroshima bombs every second, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
              That is a staggeringly rapid rise that has never before been seen.

              1. Dear Anonymous at 3:41:
                You better hurry up and beat the rush, and leave the planet. right now! P.l.e.a.s.e. go.
                -Volunteer for NASA’s upcoming mission and maybe rates are cheaper for one-way tickets!
                -Or Volunteer for China’s 096 nuclear submarine; it’s much, much, much cooler down there!
                -I myself was hoping to use my trust money to buy a barrel-bin next to Michael Jackson in CryoWorld, ..until I learned that he is actually in a common California mausoleum like everybody else.
                Boy, people sure do like to talk big, don’t they!
                (And to think that all this time I was blaming myself for accidentally leaving my hairdryer running too long. All that flagellatin’ for nothin’)
                You have so many choices other than wasting your time on this stupid ole blog!
                I’ll check in after the weekend to make sure you are gone or instead made it to a safer, more comforting place, or just trans-substantiated to a new moniker here (again).
                yours truly, meaningless drivel from a non-MAGA moron, lin.

                1. lin
                  Meaningless drivel indeed from someone who claims to be non-MAGA, and yet is also a self-admitted moron !!!!
                  Whether MAGA or non-MAGA, at least you understand that you are a moron.
                  Self-awareness is an extraordinarily rare quality among the regulars here.

          2. “Rebutted with actual facts”. I asked you to identify an actual city. You did not do so. If you want to talk about facts, pick a particular city that has temperature records that can be looked up. That is a simple task, and it can be a starting point.
            I made a mistake in stating that wine cannot be grown in England now. Buot, for some reason, wine making almost disappeared from England, although drinking wine certainly did not. https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/07/medieval-warmth-and-english-wine/. There is general agreement that there was a “medieval warming period” around the end of the first millennium and a “little ice age” around the middle of the second millennium. Were these variations caused by the increase or decrease of greenhouse gases?
            Someone who takes seriously the claim of man-made rise in temperatures needs to actually establish a starting date (which you have not done) and then show the trend in reliable recorded temperatures at various places on the earth during that period. You have not even identified a single place yet.
            I’m sure the phrase “MAGA morons” seems clever, but it is just pitiful.

            1. Waiting with bated breath for his response.

              If he was half as good at understanding science as he is at slinging ad hominems, he would probably have employment by now.

            2. edwardmahl

              I don’t understand why you continue to obsess about the need to cite data from a particular city in order to prove that climate change is occurring. By the way the correct terminology is “climate change”, not “global warming”, which is the term that you obsessively use to describe what is going on.

              However for the sake of argument I will use the incorrect term of “global warming” that you seem to like. Please note that the term has the word GLOBAL in it.
              The effect under consideration is a GLOBAL one, not an effect isolated to a particular city. The effect has been determined by looking at data gathered from all around the GLOBE. This data undergoes reduction to come up with a GLOBAL average, which is the entire point of gathering the data in the first place. Thus the data shows a GLOBAL pattern of increased average temperature which you like to refer to as “global warming” with the emphasis in GLOBAL rather than a specific city.

              Having said all that, the raw data from every monitoring station around the world is freely available online if you bother to look.

              This website at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory has the relevant data.
              https://berkeleyearth.org/temperature-city-list/

              You can look up data for any city on the planet.
              For instance, if you select New York City, you will see the relevant data since 1760 on this page:
              https://berkeleyearth.org/temperature-region/new-york

              The data is summarized in 50 year increments. You will note the steady increase in temperature in the table entitled Mean Rate of Change ( °C / Century ).

              Now that I have answered your demand for data from a particular city, perhaps you would be able to cite the specific data set proving that there was a “medieval warming period” as you describe. The only evidence you put forth is that there is “general agreement”.
              Really ???
              “General agreement” by whom.
              Where is the data ???

              You seem to think that hard data for specific cities is required to establish that climate change is occurring now, but you are quite happy with “general agreement” as a basis for proving the existence of the “medieval warming period”.
              The problem is of course that this “agreement” is not so “general”.
              If there was a period of medieval warming there is no evidence that it was a global event. The evidence is very thin, and what little evidence there is suggests that it was confined to Europe and the North Atlantic regions. There is no way of knowing why this may have happened or indeed if it even happened at all with any degree of certainty. I don’t believe that thermometers were used in medieval times, but feel free to correct me if I am wrong. There is no real consensus and certainly no “general agreement” as you suggest.

              {https://}www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/shared/articles/medclimopt.pdf
              Remove brackets around https. Only 2 links allowed.

              I have fulfilled your demand for specific data about climate change for a particular city.
              Perhaps you can now provide specific irrefutable data about the “medieval warming period” that you are so obsessed about.
              “General agreement” is not specific data.

              1. Re: “Now that I have answered your demand for data from a particular city, perhaps you would be able to cite the specific data set proving that there was a “medieval warming period” as you describe. The only evidence you put forth is that there is “general agreement”.
                Really ???
                “General agreement” by whom.
                Where is the data ???
                You seem to think that hard data for specific cities is required to establish that climate change is occurring now, but you are quite happy with “general agreement” as a basis for proving the existence of the “medieval warming period”.

                Ugh.

                There are many concrete datasets and reconstructions that show a Medieval Warm (or “Medieval Climate Anomaly”) interval, e.g.:

                Greenland ice cores whose borehole and isotope reconstructions show a warm phase around 800–1000 CE about 1.3 K above an 1881–1980 reference in parts of Greenland.

                Marine sediment cores from the Sargasso Sea and other North Atlantic locations with sea-surface temperatures about 1 °C warmer ~1000 years ago than during the Little Ice Age.

                Multiple tree‑ring based reconstructions in Europe and other regions that identify a warm interval roughly 900–1400 CE, often labeled Medieval Climate Anomaly / Warm Period.

                Syntheses (e.g., IPCC assessments) that use many such proxies to identify a warm phase around 950–1250 CE in the Northern Hemisphere, even though it was not globally synchronous.

                So the premise that only “general agreement” exists with no data behind it is false.

                1. I really do not understand this bizarre obsession with the medieval warming event. It doesn’t prove anything. It has no relevance to what is happening now.
                  I am not saying the medieval event did not happen, just that the evidence is thin, and debatable. All the evidence is indirect inferential data based on certain assumptions that may or may not be correct.

                  I do not understand why you MAGA morons seem to think that an event that may or may not have happened 1,000 years ago in a very small, localized part of the world in Europe and the North Atlantic somehow proves that modern climate change is not due to greenhouse gases. There is no rational connection between these two things.

                  The facts are very simple.
                  Fact: global temperatures are rising.
                  Fact: greenhouse gas levels are rising.
                  It is trivial to prove the connection between these two observations.

                  In 1856 Eunice Foote did an experiment. She placed a thermometer in each of two glass cylinders and filled one with air and one with carbon dioxide and sealed them. She put both cylinders outside in the sun and observed that the cylinder with carbon dioxide got much hotter than the one with air.
                  The conclusion is obvious and irrefutable.

                  This experiment has been repeated many times in increasingly sophisticated ways, including proving that carbon dioxide traps infrared radiation. There are even experiment kits available for school kids to repeat these experiments.
                  https://www.flinnsci.com/greenhouse-effect—demonstration-kit/fb1611/?srsltid=AfmBOopkGAmaaKduxM-22Rb6iu2_52NYAD8ag3Gv6BVFvxdJ5yfFVHsg

                  The connection between greenhouse gases and climate change is unequivocal.

                  This obsession that something that may or may not have happened 1,000 years ago somehow disproves this connection is bizarre and delusional.

                  1. You: “I’m not saying the ME climate warming did not occur. Just that the evidence is thin”.

                    Why are you even attempting to discuss climate science, when your rudimentary knowledge of the scientific eject would cause you to fail a basic c 9th grade course?

                    The flaw in your argument is that the you demand “the specific data set” as if a single thermometer-style data file must exist to justify talking about the Medieval Warm Period, when in reality the evidence is, by necessity, a collection of many proxy datasets and reconstructions. Sheesh.

                    The ‘evidence is thin’ only because YOU Misunderstand how past climate is measured

                    We do not have global thermometer records for 900–1300 CE; instead, paleoclimatology uses multiple proxy records (tree rings, ice cores, marine sediments, speleothems, corals, historical documents) to reconstruct temperatures and related variables.

                    Expecting one neat “temperature spreadsheet” for the Medieval Warm Period is a category error about how pre‑instrumental climate is known.

                    Dood, just stick to your customary Nazi pablum and refrain from conversation that requires knowledge of the subject matter material.

                    You are one of the least informed posters over here.

                    1. What exactly is your point in obsessively ranting about the MWE ??????
                      Whether or not it happened, or why it happened, are completely irrelevant to any discussion of modern climate change.
                      You seem to think that it somehow proves that climate change is not happening at all, or that if it is, then greenhouse gases are not responsible. This is bizarre, delusional thinking disconnected from reality.

                      It is indisputable that global temperatures are rising.
                      It is indisputable that greenhouse gases are increasing in the atmosphere.
                      It is trivial to experimentally prove the causal relationship between these two indisputable observations, as originally demonstrated by Eunice Foote, and repeated many times by others in more sophisticated ways.

                      You can prove it for yourself. Simply take two clear soda bottles or jars and place a thermometer in each. Seal one bottle with just the ambient air inside. Place a piece of dry ice, (readily available at most large supermarkets) in the other bottle and let it sublime thus increasing the CO2 concentration and then seal it. Place both bottles in direct sunlight and monitor the temperatures. The bottle with CO2 will get hotter and will heat faster than the bottle with air.

                      It is very simple to prove that greenhouse gases cause increased atmospheric temperature.
                      Whether or not there was a warming event in a small part of the world in Europe over a thousand years ago has absolutely no relevance to the discussion of modern climate change.

                    2. Oy! Looks like someone needs to pull out a dictionary and look up the definition of obsessively.

                      I just chimed in when you and the other poster were interacting, and I noticed you didn’t even have a junior high education on climate science.

                      Instead, you were simply regurgitating talking points fed to you by other uninformed Climate sycophants.

                    3. If our estimate of the sun’s energy were off by more than 0.01 percent, that error would swamp the estimated extra energy from excess CO2. Unfortunately, the sun isn’t the only uncertainty we need to consider.

                      so much for moron’s squawking

                    4. Michael M.,

                      You are one of the least informed posters over here.

                      What is a “scientific eject” ? What is a “basic c 9th grade course”?

                      Stop using ChatGPT for writing your replies. You are out of your depth.

                      The consensus among climatologists and planetary physicists going back to the late 1800s has been that adding carbon back into the atmosphere causes the Earth to retain heat. We are restoring the carbon that was captured during the Carboniferous period at a rate roughly 1000X the rate at which is was originally buried.

                    5. Autocorrect errors I didn’t catch. I dictate my responses and sometimes I miss the errors.

                      Weak sauce when you our’re forced to run the misspelling smack on a blog

                  2. The simulation of clouds in climate models remains challenging. There is very high confidence that uncertainties in cloud processes explain much of the spread in modelled climate sensitivity. [bold and italics in original]

                  3. As Willie Soon and his coauthors found, “Our current lack of understanding of the Earth’s climate system does not allow us to determine reliably the magnitude of climate change that will be caused by anthropogenic CO2 emissions, let alone whether this change will be for better or for worse.”

                    what an idiot

                  4. Mr. But: You make a very simple response: “Fact: global temperatures are rising. Fact: Greenhouse gas levels are rising.” That is enough to prove your theory.
                    I tried to get you to examine the claim that temperatures are rising. This can best be done by concentrating on various cities with reliable temperature measurements over a period of time you clam is significant. You have refused to do so.
                    Since you have not chosen a city, I will pick Detroit Michigan, which is about halfway between the North Pole and the Equator and has no surrounding geographical features which might create a micro-climate.
                    Detroit temperatures can be found at https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/detroit/year-1901, among other sites. If we assume that the operative period is from the 1890’s to 2025, then we can contrate on high temperatures on one day – July 1 – to judge trends.
                    The records state that the highest temperatures from 1897 to 2025 on July 1 may be ranked as follows; 1) 103 F (1901); 2) 99 F (1911); 3) 97 F (1910); 3) 97 F (1896); 5) 96 F (1931); 6) 95 F (2002); 7) 94 F (1941); 7) 94 F (1963); 7) 94 F (1913); 10) 93 F (1970); 10) 93 F (2012); 93 F (2018); 10) 93 f (1961).
                    These figures, which are “facts”, don’t show any steady upward movement. On the contrary, the highest temperatures are around the beginning of the 20th century when greenhouse gases were just getting a start. In succeeding years, greenhouse gases were being pumped into the air by automobiles. How is this possible if we are to accept the cause and effect of greenhouse gases and global warming?

                    1. edwardmahl

                      Oh, where to begin ??

                      You claim that I stated as facts that global temperatures are rising, and that greenhouse gases are rising, and that based on those facts, it was sufficient to prove a causal relationship. That is a deliberate misstatement of what I said. I asserted those observations as indisputable facts, and THEN described a very simple experiment that proves a direct causal relationship. You can do the experiment yourself if you have an open mind.

                      You also claim that I have refused to cite data for specific cities showing an increase in temperature.
                      I posted a link to the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory that provides specific data for specific cities all around the world, and also posted the link to the data for New York City going back to 1760.

                      You have posted completely irrelevant data about extreme WEATHER in Detroit.

                      Apparently you do not understand the difference between weather and climate. Weather is what is happening at a particular location at the present time. Climate is the average of weather conditions over extended periods for decades and centuries. It can be determined for specific locations, or as a global phenomenon by simply collecting the appropriate data and doing the math.
                      Here is a very simple analogy for the difference between weather and climate.
                      Weather is analogous to the outcome of a baseball player’s single at bat. He could hit a home run or strike out. But that says nothing about his overall ability as a batter. Climate is analogous to a batter’s batting average over a season, or his entire career. That average is the only valid way to assess his ability, and taking an average of weather conditions over a long period of time is the only valid way to describe climate.

                      The data you cite is simply a listing of weather extremes that have occurred on specific days in the past.

                      THAT IS NOT CLIMATE, IT IS WEATHER.
                      It says right there in the URL, “extreme weather”.

                      Since you seem to be interested in Detroit, here is the CLIMATE data for that city from the Lawrence Berkeley Lab.
                      https://berkeleyearth.org/temperature-location/42.59N-82.91W

                      Note that the data shows a steady increase in the average annual temperature since 1760. The only relevant way to describe climate change is to take the average temperature over a long period of time. You cannot simply pick out extremes of weather that have occurred on particular days in the past. That is weather, not climate.

                      It is truly fascinating that the MAGA morons are obsessed with trying to “prove” that there is no causal relationship between greenhouse gases and climate change. Apparently this is an article of faith that results from the extensive brainwashing that defines this cult.

                    2. Clever use of AI

                      Your hackneyed “at-bat vs. batting average” analogy is a classic pedagogical tool That I’m sure AI fed you.

                      As you well know, AI loves using these types of structured comparisons to explain complex concepts like weather vs. climate. The logical flow—addressing your points one by one—is also very “GPT-style.”

                      Another dad giveaway your response was primarily AI generated… Is your usage ofHyper-Specific Sourcing: Providing a specific Berkeley Earth coordinate link (42.59N, 82.91W) is something AI does in seconds, whereas a cognitively challenged human like you wouldn’t know how to dig through a database to find the exact URL for a specific latitude/longitude.

                      BTW, for a guy incessantly whining about people being obsessed with this topic, you sure are showing your own special brand of obsession in responding.

                      You fool no one.

  6. If it was wrong for the Bostonians to express anger at the Redcoats, there wouldn’t be a United States.

    1. And when the Confederacy expressed anger about their slaves being taken away, and committed insurrection similar to the Marxist agitators in Minneapolis, if the federal government hadn’t stood up to them, there wouldn’t be a United States.

      1. I wasn’t aware of any secessionist among those on the streets of Minneapolis. Any evidence to back that up?

        If you don’t perhaps you should read your Civil War history a bit closer.

        The confederacy formally seceded, creating their own institutions. Nothing like what is happening today.

        1. It’s as if Minnesota thinks its an asset to the United States. Throw the bums out. They’re a debit in crime and welfare. It’s contract and they ain’t got nothing but fraud. Money sink on other States. They’re fired! No more Omar, thank you God. 🙏

    2. During the ” Boston Masacre” redciats fired on and killed unarmed civilians. Several soldiers were charged with murder. John Adams defended the soldiers and won an acquittal on the murder charge. The soldiers were convicted on lesser charges and brutally punished by the British Army.
      All this to say if one is correct in one’s reason for demonstrating against authority , that demonstration must be within the bounds of the law. If you interfere with law enforcement federal, state or local there can be severe consequences. The consequences will most likely land on you not law enforcement.

    1. Exactly. Everything that makes the Left look bad is fake and was AI generated. But anything that makes the Right look bad is genuine. See how that works?

      1. Truth! Remember when the Biden administration claimed that all videos that made them uncomfortable with the truth were “Deep Fakes”😂

  7. Do these communist scumbots invade and destroy every website or just the Turley blog?

    It’s like Ukraine around here.

  8. The script for the fake video included “Pretti kicks tail light of SUV” and the generator did the rest.

  9. Federal Income Tax Share: In 2022, the top 1% paid 40.4% of all federal individual income taxes, which is more than the bottom 90% combined.

    1. Yet the Left keeps saying the rich as to “pay their fair share”.

      I guess they think their “fair share” is 100%!

      1. They should have to pay MORE than 100%! And don’t give me that “maathematical impossibility” excuse.

    2. The top 1% controls 80% of the newly created wealth in the country. They should be paying 80% of the taxes.

        1. He can’t prove it…because it’s false. He just repeated a lie from a fellow lefty who heard that from someone else.

          His conclusion—that top 1% should pay 80% of taxes if they control 80% of new wealth—relies on a false equivalence.

          Wealth (assets like stocks) differs from taxable income; taxes target income, not total wealth, so proportional “new wealth” taxation ignores this.

          It also overlooks their outsized current payments (40%+ vs. 20% income share) and assumes mechanical proportionality without economic impacts like reduced investment.

          Progressive rates already address inequality without mandating exact matches to wealth shares.

          1. How about politicians should be taxed at a rate commensurate to their net worth upon taking office and their networth after each term.

          2. Progressive rates were up to 91% when America was Great.

            The diversion from income to wealth is tax avoidance. Instead of paying an executive $10M they give them access to $10M worth of company home and company car and loan security. The benefit is the same, but it escapes being taxed.

            Taxes targeting the change in wealth are taxing income.

            1. “Progressive rates were up to 91% when America was Great.”

              Very few taxpayers actually paid anything close to 91% as an effective rate because of large deductions, exclusions, and loopholes; effective top rates were much lower.

              “The diversion from income to wealth is tax avoidance.”
              Oy…

              Legal tax avoidance means arranging affairs to reduce tax **while following the law** (e.g., taking deductions, deferring realization of gains); tax evasion means breaking the law (e.g., concealing income or assets)

              The shift from straightforward cash salary to stock‑based pay, deferred compensation, borrowing against appreciated assets, etc., is primarily (aggressive) avoidance, not automatically evasion. Duh!!

              “Instead of paying an executive $10M they give them access to $10M worth of company home and company car and loan security. The benefit is the same, but it escapes being taxed.”

              Huh?🤷‍♂️

              This is substantially wrong in how the U.S. system treats fringe benefits and perks.

              Employer‑provided housing and cars that are for personal use are generally taxable fringe benefits; their fair value (or an IRS formula amount) must be included in the employee’s taxable income, with some narrow exceptions (e.g., housing required on business premises, or limited “working condition” and “de minimis” fringes).

              “Loan security” or company‑backed loans typically trigger tax rules on below‑market loans (imputed interest) or other compensation rules; they do not simply vanish from the tax base

              Your position is substantially flawed or misleading by suggesting executives can just take $10M in housing, cars, and similar perks that “escape being taxed” entirely; most such benefits are explicitly taxable or regulated.

              Pro tip: stick to subjects that are more esoteric and ethereal. No one can dispute your opinion, but when you can be so easily debunked on a topic like this, in which you have proven to not know much at all about finances, you expose yourself to being greatly embarrassed.

              Now run along Sonny and lick your wounds.

        2. Oh, brother. \facepalm

          The statement “Jesus would have been arrested and deported for tossing over tables” contains several historical inaccuracies when analogized to illegal immigrants in modern Minnesota.

          First off…Jesus was not an “illegal immigrant” or foreigner in the place of the incident; he was a native Jewish resident of Roman Judea (modern Israel/Palestine), legally present in his homeland under Roman provincial rule.

          So where would he be deported to?

          Second… Deportation was not a standard Roman punishment for disturbances like this—

          You really aren’t any good at this…at all.

          1. Michael M

            Christ was crucified for tossing over tables.

            Do you have a birth certificate to prove Jesus was a native there?

            And ICE would do the same today if crucifixion was as easily excused as shooting people in the head.

            You really are terrible at understanding these things.

            1. Oh, brother. you expose and confirm your ignorance when attempting to speak on subjects you know absolutely nothing about, other than what your media overlords have fed you with.

              Your two statements seriously misunderstand both the historical context and the biblical record of why Jesus was crucified.

              The “turning over the tables” event
              When Jesus overturned the tables in the temple (described in Matthew 21:12–13, Mark 11:15–18, Luke 19:45–46, and John 2:13–17), he was driving out the money changers who were exploiting worshippers. It was a prophetic act of cleansing and a direct challenge to the religious corruption in the temple system.

              I’m pretty comfortable in saying that if Jesus Christ had Had walked into that church in Minnesota to protest during their service, he would have escorted them out of the church.

              Whilst That incident angered the religious leaders, it was NOT the legal or political reason for his crucifixion.

              The real reason for the crucifixion, According to all four Gospels and historical sources:

              The Jewish religious authorities accused Jesus of blasphemy—claiming divine authority and the title “Son of God.”

              Under Roman rule, however, only Rome could carry out capital punishment, so they reframed the charge politically: claiming to be “King of the Jews,” a potential threat to Caesar.

              Pilate, the Roman governor, ultimately authorized the crucifixion for political convenience, not because of the temple incident.

              Re: your silly and obtuse “birth certificate” demand…

              Ancient Judea had no concept of modern citizenship, passports, or birth certificates.

              Jesus’ birthplace—Bethlehem—was well-known from Gospel accounts (Matthew 2, Luke 2). But even on political grounds, he would have been considered a subject of the Roman Empire.

              The idea of “deporting” him for lack of documents projects modern national laws backward onto a first-century province of Rome—the comparison doesn’t hold up historically.

              In short, Jesus was not crucified for tipping tables or for lacking documents. He was executed by Rome under pressure from religious leaders for claims of divine authority and kingship that challenged both religious and political powers of the day.

              My work is done. Class is dismissed.

              From now on, stick to topics that you know something about, which will require you to fully abstain from any form of contribution on this blog. The idea that you are regurgitating the meme That Jesus Christ would have been deported From the Roman empire – When he was a subject of the Roman empire – Only confirms my Contention that you are incapable or unwilling of doing your own research.

        3. That’s right. He’d far prefer wages to go up so people could pay market price for them.

          Why would you prefer fellow Americans who are homeowners to lose much of their investment?

          So that you could buy a house on the cheap?

          Get a better job than a busboy at the Olive Garden, and you might be less jealous of others – and less personally miserable.

          1. Increased wages = increased inflation; prices go up faster than wages.

            House prices are going up due to artificial restriction. If that was not the case builders would be motivated to make more housing. Instead monopoly control of the housing market restricts home building.

            For most Americans – they didn’t invest enough to justify the price of their homes. The increased price means increased taxes in most parts of the country.

            It’s a bubble, just like the last one and it’s overdue to burst. It will bankrupt a great number of Americans when it does and Trump is trying hard to make the bubble bigger so his backers will be able to clean up at low, low prices, just like last time.

  10. Someone somewhere is laughing at how successful their prank was.
    Something so fake has been believed and passed off as reality, and so many have fallen for it.

  11. Here’s another legal term: evidence.
    Is there photographic evidence of the damage to the SUV, other than this fake video?

        1. Wouldn’t you just say that the photograph is fake, and anyone who says they took the picture is lying?

    1. “. . . this fake video?

      Speaking of evidence: Do you have any to support your assertion that the video is fake?

      1. One thing is for sure Sam.
        Alex can’t control his temper. Not a good sign for a person in the medical field.

    2. That taillight certainly does appear to come off cleanly. I’ve seen hundreds of them smashed over my lifetime, but I have never seen a completely removed one without significant crushing of the surrounding sheet metal. If they would be removed so easily, pranksters would have popped them loose en mass.

      1. Why has no one come forward to dispute the BBC’s facial recognition findings that there was a 97% likelihood the person kicking out that taillight was Alex Pretti, as well as as a family member and his own lawyer confirming it was him?

        Occam’s razor.

  12. If you are here, you are probably into all things legal.
    I’m sure some of you might have heard of a legal principle called “benefit of the doubt”.
    Well, this should give you some doubt about the video’s authenticity:

    1. It is easy to discern that these videos are synthetic because they make the whole universe and everything in it look like they’re plastic.

    2. “. . . legal principle called ‘benefit of the doubt’.”

      Which, of course, means that the accused is presumed innocent — not that evidence is presumed guilty.

      The only thing in doubt here is your fidelity to the meaning of words.

  13. Pro-Trump tech billionaires would have means and motive to produce a fake video such as this and fool everyone, like how Orson Welles fooled everyone with his radio broadcast of War of the Worlds.

    1. Great point.

      Except…a family member confirmed it was him.

      Plausible deniability only works in the mind of dems when covering up the senility of a sitting president.

      Do better.

      ((((((YAWN)))))

        1. The family member said that Pretti told him about it in person. But the video of the family member saying that is fake and AI generated.

          Then a second family member vouched that the video was real. But the video of that second family member was fake and AI generated.

          Then a third family member vouched that the second video was real. But the video of that third family member was fake and AI generated.

          1. The only thing missing from his post when implying the video was AI generated was for him to regurgitate the line of former White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre that every unfavorable video was the result of a ‘Deep Fake’

        2. “. . . the family member.”

          Or that the family member was bought off by the Trilateral Commission.

          Remind me, again, which is the party of conspiracy theories.

        1. “Videos Show Alex Pretti in Confrontation With Agents 11 Days Before His Death”

          Google that and the New York Times. I’m out of free reads and can’t provide a link, but it’s in there, sweetheart.

          How often do you require other people to do your own research and homework for you? Next time, stay in high school instead of settling for a GED. Your teachers have failed you.

          you should be embarrassed that you’re interacting with others on this blog and don’t even know that no one is disputing that was Alex Pretti 11 days before kicking out the tail light of an ice vehicle and spitting at an ice officer, both of which are felonies.

    2. Speaking of Orson Welles, the “Melania” documentary flop is reminiscent of Susan Alexander’s “opera career” in “Citizen Kane”. And, just like Charles Foster Kane couldn’t make Susan Alexander into a successful opera singer because she simply wasn’t talented, Trump can’t make Melania—someone without much education or significant accomplishments —into someone substantial numbers of people give a crap about. She is and has always been nothing but a pretty ornament he thinks makes him look good— a former nude model with a high school education. 2/3 of those who worked on the film asked that their names be removed from the credits.

      1. There are media reports that Republican clubs have purchased large blocks of tickets for the “Melania” movie and are offering them free or at a steep discount to members just to save Trump from embarrassment.

        It’s obvious that Amazon spent the money making this flop to curry favor with King Donald. Reports are that there’s little interest in even free tickets.

        Is it just me or does Melania have huge feet?

        1. I, personally, bought 2,00,000 tickets

          (where do they find these people? Gigi having more babies, again?)

        2. I dunno…do you have huge feet? If so, they’re probably the only thing about you that could be described as huge.

        1. How do you know anything about Melania’s”heart”? Her PR logo is “Be Best”, but she is married to a lying malignant narcissist who sexually assaults women and brags about it, who uses racist and antisemitic slurs, who lies on loan documents, lies about lowering grocery prices, lies about the economy, lies about Joe Biden, took food away from starving Africans, took insurance subsidies away from millions of Americans, threatened to invade Greenland and take it by force, who lies about Renee Good and Alex Pretti, American citizens murdered by Trump’s ICE army of cowardly thugs, and who just can’t stop lying about losing in 2020.

          Start enforcing “being best” in your own home, Melania, and if you succeed, maybe people will take you seriously. When you stand by and don’t speak out against the damage your husband is doing and the lives lost because of his ego, you are complicit, and for that you deserve scorn, not respect.

          1. gigi is not a good example of a person who does not collect scorn. Dirty, crude, rude mouth, defensive speech, empty accusations, copy and paste diatribes, and insults to the very host.

        1. It’s only considered as “speaks a language” if they are fluent. Melania is barely fluent in English after, what, 30 years in the USA?

      2. Keep crying
        Melania Secures $25M Investment for Housing and Supporting Youths Transitioning Out of Foster Care

        1. The funding was Federal taxpayer dollars in the Federal Budget last May. Any attachment to Melania was to put lipstick on a pig, so to speak.

  14. An anonymous commenter below refers to ICE law enforcement agents as “goons” and accuses them of “oppression.” Let’s examine that. They are carrying out valid orders to enforce a law passed by Congress. In so doing, they are removing dangerous offenders from the community as well.

    If anyone had proof that they are busting down doors without a warrant or arresting innocent people in the US legally, that would change things. So far I haven’t seen anyone post evidence to that effect, but I have seen lists of those detained by ICE, which included child rapists, murderers, violent gang members, and child sex traffickers.

    Perhaps these left-wing anonymous commenters know all this is true, but they are nonetheless offended that ICE is removing future Democrat voters? Just a theory.

    1. on target. it’s easy to assign the most evil and diabolical motives to them. they have multiple and long historic examples of such.

      1. By “them” do you mean the violent gang members, child rapists, murderers, and child sex traffickers? Or do you mean Tim Walz and Mayor Frey? Or do you mean the violent Marxist revolutionary mob interfering with valid law enforcement activities?

  15. Ah and here comes the timely and predictable character assassination to muddy the waters. If it has no bearing on the shooting as Turley states, why bring it up? How about Turley perform the same obviously unbiased “fact finding” on the law breaking and corruption in the executive branch?

    1. Maybe because of the liberal narrative that he was a saint. Turley often pokes holes in false narratives. The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

      1. More like let’s blame the victim because discussing the murder and lawlessness of federal officers hurts my appearances on Fox News.

        1. “More like let’s blame the victim because discussing the murder and lawlessness of federal officers hurts my appearances on Fox News.”

          Silly me. I always thought we held trials in this country to determine if murder and lawlessness at the hands of federal officers actually withstood said allegations, which you are now claiming have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

          The left hates to admit, because playing the victim card enables you to escape responsibility for your own actions, but here’s a newsflash… we are all responsible for our own actions.

          Pretti is no different. If he doesn’t show up with a loaded firearm, he just gets his azz kicked for a 2nd time.

          Mess with the bull… Get the horns.

          Pretti is proof Darwin was right

        2. You didn’t read the article. He does discuss the killing. Up to now, it’s a killing. You calling it “murder” doesn’t do you any favors. It just makes you look unhinged and, as such, less credible as a commenter.

      1. Notice the sudden interest from the left towards unarmed people being shot by law enforcement officers, children being put at risk by our government, feigning concern for the rule of law being upheld, and citizens holding their government accountable?

        Sadly, it’s a day late and a dollar short for Ashley Babbitt, the 300,000 children the Biden administration lost track of, some of whom were unwittingly turned over to sex traffickers, immigration law being ignored when turning our border into a turnstile, and Joe Biden‘s senility had devolved so badly they were forced to exercise a coup to remove him from the election, thus nullifying the votes of 14 million Democrats.

        Fortunately, Those four years under Biden enabled us to see who they really were when they willingly took their masks off.

  16. Below, an anonymous commenter claimed Trump doesn’t care about housing affordability. In response, I listed numerous actions he’s taken to help younger homebuyers get into homes, and that he’s done more than any other president in this regard. In response to me, the commenter did not deny any of those items, but chose one to criticize as non-helpful: the 50-year mortgage. His entire response was as follows:

    Fifty-year mortgages, which by any measure would double or even triple the loan amount? Yeah…….yeah – that sounds like a Trump plan for sure.

    This rejoinder has multiple factual errors, as follows:

    – First, it seems to assume that under Trump’s proposal, people would be required to lengthen the life of the loan, thus paying more. That’s false: it’s just proposed as an option.

    – Second, it assumes people keep the loan for 50 years. That rarely happens. People who get a 30-year fixed usually move or refinance within five to seven years. The 30-year loan life rather than 15 lowers their payments, which is why they choose it. Similarly, the concept behind the 50-year loan is to lower those payments even further, thereby making homes affordable which would not otherwise be. When young people can afford a home, they are more stable and are more likely to start families, which every generation needs for when they retire. One of our greatest civilizational challenges is the plunging fertility rates in the West. When we all retire, we need those extra young people to be paying into the retirement system.

    – And finally, let’s talk about the “double or triple the loan amount.” While it’s not clear what that means, it seems to be referring to the total of all payments over the life of the loan, since the loan amount is generally 80% of the purchase price regardless of the amortization schedule. The seller does not know or care how the buyer gets the money to buy, meaning the seller does not alter the price based on the buyer’s loan term. So it is unclear how this reference to “loan amount” can mean anything other than the total of all payments during the life of the loan.

    – Given the above, it would still be good to know if the commenter’s claim is accurate for people who never move or refinance, but pay the loan back until the end of the live of the loan (30 or 50 years). So . . . it’s pretty easy to figure out if this “double or triple” assertion is true: just go to one of the many online amortization calculators and plug in the same loan amount with either a 360-month or 600-month repayment schedule, and see the total of all payments over the life of the loan. That’s exactly what I did, and what I found was that for the 50-year loan, the total of all payments is 26% more than for a 30-year loan. That is a far cry from “double or triple.” Which raises the question: were was this commenter getting the “double or triple” idea from? My guess: making it up out of thin air, or the commenter saw it on a left-wing website and copy/pasted it without any investigation to see if it was accurate.

    1. for most of the 20th century, these uneducated know-it-alls could say anything. Big Media backed them up. Things are different today. Conservatives confront them 24/7 and reveal how little they actually know.

    2. Trump just said that it was good for home prices to skyrocket – for the home owners. He doesn’t want housing prices to come down.

  17. If it is true, then so what?
    This country was founded on expressions of anger against oppression.
    Pretti was angry about what Bovino and his goons have been doing in Minnesota like how
    Washington and Jefferson weren’t so happy with what Benedict Arnold was doing
    to Virginia.

    1. Wow. So many opinions and conclusions about something that probably isn’t even real.
      What a bunch of idiots.

    2. This country was founded on expressions of anger against oppression.

      No, it was founded on a love of ordered liberty, not on the concept of anger. Liberals are always angry at everything, so they think the Founders must have been just like them, always angry. (Only a thief thinks everyone else is a thief.) But the evidence tells a different story. Just look at the text of the First Amendment, which the Founders drafted:

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      1. The United States was founded on a love for slave labor. If it was founded on liberty then all the slaves would have been liberated.

        1. Show us a country that wasn’t. Ask the Jews. They know something about slavery.

          PS.. thanks to Obama he turned Libya into a black slave trading country.
          Think about that A Black Prez did that.

      1. Only an uninformed leftist would dare claim Benedict Arnold = Bovino.

        I’m rapidly beginning to notice that the words ‘Smart” and ‘Liberal’ is the newest oxymoron to add to the lexicon. Comments like his confirm that I’m not far off.

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