Below is my column in Fox.com on my book, Rage and the Republic, which Simon & Schuster released today. The book discusses the increasing talk of revolutionary change on the left, a crisis of faith on the 250th anniversary of our Declaration of Independence.
Here is the column:
“This is time for a revolution … They can’t take us all down.” Those words from Breaking Bad actor Giancarlo Esposito are being echoed by a growing number of armchair revolutionaries today. Revolution is again in the air as we approach the 250th anniversary of our Declaration of Independence.
Today, Simon & Schuster is releasing my book “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution,” an exploration of the founding and the future of our unique Republic. It is a book about revolutions and how they can consume those who start them. Both the American and French revolutions arose during the same period, but one became the world’s oldest democracy while the other became a blood-soaked tyranny known as “The Reign of Terror.”
As I wrote the book, I found myself marveling at the comparisons between the conditions of the Eighteenth Century and today. The most telling moment came while working in my law school office:
“In May 2024, I was working on this book when suddenly I felt pulled into the pages of my research. A mob outside was crying “Guillotine! Guillotine! Guillotine!” Those words were not chanted on Place de la Concorde in Paris but on the quad of George Washington University in Washington, D.C. I was literally working on the material from the French Revolution when it seemed like the French Revolution had come to me. Students were holding a mock trial of the university president, the provost, the board of directors, and others over their refusal to yield to demands in an anti-Israel protest. Encamped for weeks in the yard next to my law school office, the students chanted “off with their heads” and “off to the motherf*cking gallows with you.” … The faux trial induced a certain “what if ” moment, considering whether we could ever actually devolve into such madness. It came at a time when protests are becoming more radicalized and, at times, violent…Despite having the most successful and stable constitutional system in history, there is still that moment: a fleeting doubt as to whether the system could survive the morning, survive the times we are living in, survive us.”
The book explores whether the American Republic can survive the 21st century amid challenges ranging from robotics and AI to global governance systems. It discusses the rise of the “new Jacobins,” politicians, professors, and pundits calling for the trashing of the Constitution and radical changes in the United States.
The original Jacobins were also journalists, professors, and politicians who joined the mob in seeking to tear down the existing governmental structure. We are hearing many of the same voices today.Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the UC Berkeley Law School, is the author of “No Democracy Lasts Forever: How the Constitution Threatens the United States.”
Newspapers like the New York Times regularly publish calls to trash the Constitution or curtail rights such as free speech. In one column, “The Constitution Is Broken and Should Not Be Reclaimed,” law professors Ryan D. Doerfler of Harvard and Samuel Moyn of Yale called for the nation to “reclaim America from constitutionalism.”
Another mocked “Constitution worship” and warned that “Americans have long assumed that the Constitution could save us. A growing chorus now wonders whether we need to be saved from it.”
Republicans and law enforcement are now regularly called “Nazis” and “fascists” by Democratic leaders. Some are promising arrests from the President to individual police officers. Last week, Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner promised to “hunt down” ICE officers like “Nazis.” Democratic strategist James Carville previously threatened that “collaborators” may be treated in the same way as they were after World War II.
Gov. Tim Walz, who has called ICE officers “Gestapo,” said that this may be our “Fort Sumter” moment, a triggering event for a civil war that killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.
The dehumanization of political opponents gives people license for extreme or even violent responses. In cities like Minnesota, protesters carried signs reading “Kill Nazis” and we have seen assassination attempts on President Donald Trump and Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Many celebrated or rationalized the murder of Charlie Kirk. A quarter of Americans now believe political violence is justified.
At the same time, violent figures are being celebrated. After Luigi Mangione murdered a health-care executive, some cheered and others like former Washington Post journalist Taylor Lorenz gushed. She explained the reaction of many women: “Here’s this man who’s a revolutionary, who’s famous, who’s handsome, who’s young, who’s smart, he’s a person who seems like he’s this morally good man, which is hard to find.”
Sort of Thomas Paine with a six-pack and 3D-printed ghost gun.
Even with guillotines now regularly appearing at protests, no one expects the tumbrels to roll down Pennsylvania Avenue. However, figures like Robespierre began as lawyers who espoused due process and the rights of man before becoming the architects of terror. He would ultimately declare that “Terror is only justice: prompt, severe and inflexible; it is then an emanation of virtue.”
The greatest danger that the Framers saw in our new Republic was the danger of democratic despotism, the tyranny of a majority that lacks limits on its power. They sought to avoid the fate of democracies like Athens that eventually gave rise to tyranny.
During the French Revolution, writer Jacques Mallet du Pan observed that “Like Saturn, the Revolution devours its children.” That insatiable appetite has taken its toll for centuries. The Jacobins who rose to power during the French Revolution would ultimately fall victim to the “Razor of the Republic.”
The focus of the American Revolution was liberty, not democracy. It was the first Enlightenment Revolution grounded in natural rights held by all of humanity. They saw direct democracy as leading to what one of the founders called a “mobocracy.”
Notably, many of the new Jacobins today are seeking to strip away the protections created to limit public impulse. They are seeking to pack the Supreme Court and change the constitutional structure to allow for radical changes. Indeed, years ago after laying out this radical agenda to guarantee Republicans “will never win another election, ” Harvard Law Professor Michael Klarman warned that they first had to take control of the judicial branch since “the Supreme Court could strike down everything I just described.”
We have been here before. “Rage and the Republic” tells this American story through the life of one of two figures who played key roles in both the American and French Revolutions: Thomas Paine. (The other was the Marquis de Lafayette). Paine opposed many of Madison’s “precautions.” In France, it came close to killing him — a mere accident by a jailor would ultimately spare him from the guillotine.
History shows that it is far easier to start a revolution than to end one. As politicians fuel the mob in major cities, they will likely find that today’s revolutionaries often become tomorrow’s reactionaries. In the early 1800s, Abbé Emmanuel Joseph Sieyès, considered the Thomas Paine of the French Revolution, was asked what he had done during the Revolution. The old abbot pondered the question and simply answered: “J’ai vécu” (“I survived”).
Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the best-selling author of “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.”
So we are going to clutch our pearls and tear our hair out over the state of the country? Did we miss the history lesson?
This too shall pass, maybe like a kidney stone, but it will pass.
Neither side of the political spectrum have covered themselves in glory and have done considerable harm to their own side.
Yes the wing nuts are pushing the pile. They are loud and ugly and the very first thing they do is whittle down who should be in power (hint: only them). Yet time and time again the hoi palloi get tired of them and have a throw the bums out election because when the dog catches the bumper they have no idea what to do with it.
Both sides scream about gerrymandering and both sides do it and go to court when it is done to them. Both sides belittle anyone who will not follow them in lockstep and drive them out. I find it amazing that politicians are NOW about a free press and fairness. Really? One side could not have cared less until their media was getting gored and the other side screamed about how unfair the media is until they decided to gut the only publicly funded media group.
Yet, neither side can get past the 50% point no matter what they do and no matter how much they scream.
No I am not concerned. We have the Constitution in place. Want to see a true backlash? Try and get rid of it or gut it. Politicians are corrupt by nature, but they understand when it is their neck on the line. A large group of angry voters are still concerning. Politicians have no spine, You saw how fast DEI died. The voters sent a loud message and they actually heard it.
For those concerned, remember the history lesson, the Jacobins fell to their own guillotine.
Democrat gerrymandering has mainly been to join separated segments of a single sub-population to allow their proportion of the population to have a similar proportion of the representation.
Republican gerrymandering has mainly been to separate joined segments of a single sub-population to prevent their portion of the population from having a similar proportion of the representation.
In other words when a Democrat sticks a knife in the belly it is to treat a distended diseased appendix.
When a Republican does it it is to slice through the liver and spleen so the person dies.
Same action for different reasons to provide different outcomes Quiet “Both sides the same” Man.
“Democrat gerrymandering has mainly been to join . . .”
Why didn’t you just say: “So blacks can have black politicians, . . .”
That would’ve been a lot more clear — and honest.
. As we study cases and the Constitution itself it’s right to bear in mind the idea of “reasonable”. Laws regard reason and not emotionalism, histrionics.
Trumpv v. Illinois is a good reference. If police at the State level pick up a person present in the illegally , the remedy is a fine and deportation. While the State can issue a fine but cannot deport. It is reasonable for police to notify DHS to follow through with deportation as immigration is federal. It doesn’t need to be explicit in federal law because that’s the reasonable interpretation. The confusion appears to be between civil and criminal law and needn’t be.
Gorsuch hinted at this and Alito, Thomas and Roberts also. Homan has made progress because notification at jails is now taking place. Being in the US whether via breach of civil or criminal law both carry fines and deportation. Walz refusal to cooperate is rebellion. He may be charged accordingly.
Posse comitatus written at the end of reconstruction simply charges States with enforcing State laws. It isn’t applicable in breaches of border and present illegally as deportation remedy. Notification is REASONABLE.
.^^^^ 1996, immigration responsibility act , Agreement 287(g) went into effect allowing State and local police participation in enforcement of fed laws. All States participate except California, Oregon, Washington which is the entire western coastal region creating a concerning national security interest. In addition Illinois and some North Eastern states such as Delaware are not participants.
Laws are constructed using reason, logic and are products of the will. Before changing a law reasons must be introduced. For these reasons – national security, economics including health, education and welfare, elections and census, criminal justice, environmental impact and other.
^^^^. How can this be hacked? I proofread it. Some portions left out?
The blog may be hacked.
. Tom Homan is making progress in Minnesota. Jails are notifying is progress. Walz is in violation of Minnesota regulations and Ellison might notify him? Of course he isn’t. Minnesota is rogue.
^^^^. The democrats strategies were primarily DEI old world Affirmative Action, same thing. This allowed the advent of females of any kind, education, etc into HIGH LEVEL political positions. This then allowed emotionalism. Every issue is framed by emotional content and anxiety stricken, breathless delivery. Half of voters became available as women via emotional content and NOT REASON. Laws are reason, logic, and not emotion. Example suffices: 5 year old child abandoned by mother and father because of bad immigration policy and NOT personal responsibilities. Half of voters accessed – emotional females.
Reason dictates DEI is damaging to civilizations as incompetence is promoted. Males seeking power utilized DEI and promoted it for political power via female voters.
Breaking the border further skewed the census and undermined elections. This tactic again utilized control of elections by men seeking power. Gerrymandering again for elections. Mail in ballots again for elections.
The overall strategy is control of elections by male democrats seeking power. Emotionalism was a main strategy as well as incompetence at high levels and lawless border ruin.
I’ve heard the lord has many mansions. This must be the van down by the river.
PS: Anthropology can and should be used in analysis of the United States decline.
^^^^. Anthropology and criminal cultures by American standards-based analysis.
These groups do not know they’re employing criminal cultural standards as defined by American standards. The task of assimilation becomes impossible and ruin inevitable.
^^^^. Their house is built of weaknesses much like straw and sticks.
Spanberger just announced repeal of Agreement 287 (g) , provides for local law enforcement training which means money to help DHS process illegals and yes misdemeanors are criminal.
That doesn’t exempt local law enforcement from standard duties in public safety. It’s definitely a national security risk. Order of operations functions as does pemdas, mam. What’s the trig? Soh coh ? ☺
In a van down by the river…snl
. ^^^^ Recommend upgrading the 1893, Fong v. US to – unauthorized presence in US to a misdemeanor alignment with Border breach, less confusion, increased numbers caused crime against society, national security risk as citizenship to a foreign nation present within US, other.
^^^^ Within the dem strategies the most significant is national security. The entire west coast is anti constitution and east coast is being infringed currently. The layer of DEI at judge level stalls lawful order. SCOTUS must step up John Sauer.
Best wishes
ICE had a habit of not picking them up. That was the problem. ICE was being notified and then not doing anything about it.
This was using local resources to avoid Federal spending on Federal problems because the Immigration courts were backed up and CPB/ICE/DHS didn’t want to expand the Immigration courts or the holding facilities; also, the Immigration courts were tending to not deport people. So their perfect solution was to dump on the locals and, eventually, the locals got tired of dealing with immigration level problems in ways that any citizen would not require.
Sanctuary cities started, not as some “woke” protest, but because Trump was piling the costs on them.
Once President Tangerine had his trumper tantrum about it, the “woke” part came out over the realization of what an abuser Trump actually is.
Mangione is “a person who seems like he’s this *morally good* man.” (emphasis added)
There’s one key to the Left’s degeneracy. It has a perverted view of “morally good:”
It is “morally good” to sacrifice children to a Leftist cause — compel masks and shut down schools, mutilate their genitals.
It is “morally good” to call for the murder of Federal law enforcement.
It is “morally good” to blame others for your own destructive choices — Good and Pretti, ICE made me go berserk.
It is “morally good” to make others pay for your rotten financial choices — “Bail me out. I can’t pay my student loan.”
When “morally good” means sacrifice others, it is a short walk to the guillotine.
Congrats on the new book, Prof. Turley. Looking fwd to it.
“Lebanon wants ‘majority’ of one million Syrian refugees to return home this year”
– The National
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Actual Americans want 90 million unassimilable parasitic “refugees” to finally go home this month.
Brilliant. Simply brilliant. And terrifying look into our not-too-distant future.
NOT “brilliant” at all. Just another effort by Turley to downplay the seriousness of the damage Trump is doing to our country and Republicans’ failure to meet their responsibilities as a co-equal branch of government. If the righteous anger felt by most Americans is nothing more than baseless “rage” , then “the Left” are the bad guys. This philosophy tries to normalize Trump and the dangerous and unprecedented destruction of our shared values, endless lying, disrespect for the rule of law and demeaning of our allies.
See, it’s not “the Left” that is sending masked commandos who are killing people and then lying about the facts. It’s not “the Left” that’s pushing for a federal takeover of elections— in contravention of the Constitution, or demanding voter rolls and ballots or who started the redistricting war. It’s not “the Left” who are advocating for taking over Greenland “by force if necessary”, triggering NATO to send in troops to defend Greenland against US aggression. It’s not “the Left” that outed Epstein victims but redacted the identities of the wealthy and powerful men who raped them.
Anger over Trump and his incompetence and that of his administration is felt by the majority of Americans, reflected in historically low polling numbers by multiple polling agencies. Dismissing this anger as just “rage” is a MAGA propaganda point—just like accusing critics of Trump as being “deranged “. Americans aren’t buying it.
You need to contain your rage. Here’s a look at ALL THREE FORMER PRESIDENTS (Trump, Biden, Obama) with a compilation and rolling average of approval ratings. Not much difference, is there?
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/trump-obama-bush-second-term
Break that down by party and I think you will see that Trump has a massive division in support that Bush and Obama did not have. Also consider that this isn’t a second consecutive term for Trump, it is essentially a 1st term after a different President, one based on Make America Great Again – his polling numbers should be going up as America becomes Great.
Compare Trump’s performance to every, separate, Presidential poll and get back after that.
Trump is back because Biden(DES) were such a HUGE failure! Get back after that!! ha ha ha ha
DEMS!!
Karen S: did you forget about the mess Trump left Biden to fix? COVID out of control, schools, restaurants and businesses shut down, unemployment in double digits, and new daily numbers of COVID deaths and illnesses— more than comparable developed countries. Biden fixed all of that— got us immunized, back to work, back to school and got our economy back on track. Biden mended the damage Trump did with our allies and Sweden and Finland joined NATO. Biden got several bills passed that benefit us all. Biden polls higher than Trump right now.
KAREN? LAME REPLY FROM A TDS FILLED LOON!!
BLAME COVID ON CHINA DF ANON!! Trump gave inflation of 1.4% to Biden- who ran it up to the highest in 45 YEARS!! Inflation reduction act made inflation WORSE! 7 TRILLION spent on phony/useless programs under Biden! Get your student loan bribe from him??? BIDEN was an Obama puppet.
Biden didn’t know what day it was- BOZO ANON!!!
Inflation when Biden took office was 9% and was 3% when he left office. Trump lies about this all of the time, constantly repeating the same lie–first claiming that he inherited the worst inflation ever, and then, in the Tom Llmas interview, claimed it was the worst inflation in 48 years–another lie. Inflation now is at 2.7%–.3% is only a marginal improvement, and it would be much worse if Trump could have fired Fed Chair Powell and gotten some syncophant toadie to severely drop interest rates.. More Trump lies–that he got “$18 trillion” in commitments to build new manufacturing, but Biden only got $1 Trillion in 4 years. Biden got $3 Trillion per quarter in 2024, and Trump has nothing to back up his lie about the $18 Trillion. Because of Biden’s Chips Act, manufacturing went up, but are down since Trump took office, especially in the automotive industry because he is trying to destroy the market for electric vehicles. Obama, by the way, deported more migrants than Trump has, even with his private army of thugs.
gigi, thanks for becoming the poster child for Turley’s mention of rage. take two aspirin and check in with us again in the morning. After all, your nursing and legal skills should support that Rx.
HEY BOZO TOTAL INFLATION UNDER BIDEN 21%!!! 5.25% average per year 3% the last year added to the already 18.5% in the first 3 years!. YOU HAVE TO ADD EVERY YEAR. TRUMPS TOTAL FIRST TERM 7.6% ECON 101 GIGI!!!
or 1.9% PER YEAR!! CHIPS ACT paid manufacturers BILLIONS- then they laid off thousands. EXAMPLE Intel received Billions then laid off many workers!!!
HEY GIGI 3% INFLATION BIDENS LAST YEAR HIGHER OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR!!!!! 2021 8.5% 2022 5.5% 2023 4% 2024 3%
ADDS UP TO DRUMROLL!!! 21%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOTAL OVER 4 years compared to Trump at 7.6%
which is higher 21.00% or 7.60%??? TOUGH ONE GIGI???????
Biden shut them down, not Trump. Biden also tried to “force” everyone to get the CV shot.
Remember these words. Get the shot and you won’t get CV (lie)
Get the shot and you won’t spread CV (lie)
Here’s what “PolitiFact” says:
“The Trump administration’s written guidelines to slow COVID-19’s spread early in the pandemic called for shutting down schools and for people to avoid going to restaurants except for takeout, and avoid discretionary travel and shopping.
Trump’s statements on Twitter and in press conferences were inconsistent about what he said to governors.
Sometimes, Trump deferred to governors; other times, he was more forceful about what he thought they should do about shutdowns or reopenings.”
So you are saying that Biden was terrible and Americans wanted to continue in that same direction?
The US gold price is going up because the value of the American dollar is plummeting on the world market and confidence in the American dollar is plummeting with it.
And houses almost doubled under Biden!! So what is your point TDS FILLED ANON??
Yes Biden WAS TERRIBLE- and Americans wanted no more of him!! Go protest something with Nadler!!
Trump exists solely to feed his narcissistic need for power, attention and wealth. The Constitution means nothing. Laws mean nothing. The truth means nothing. He surrounds himself with the most unqualified and incompetent people in history— their main qualification is that they will do what they are told, regardless of the Constitution and the oath they took and regardless of whether it is illegal, immoral or outrageous. If what they do or fail to do makes Trump look bad, they just lie like he does.
His ego requires vindication of the election he lost in 2020, so he commanded his AG to seize voter rolls and ballots to try to relitigate 2020. He called for federal takeover of elections— even though the Constitution says that elections are controlled by states. He wastes taxpayer money getting revenge on his perceived enemies by filing baseless lawsuits that keep getting thrown out of court and trying to illegally fire the head of the fed and one of the governors.
He sent an army of untrained and inexperienced losers to bully people in blue states for revenge. He enacted illegal tariffs that he uses as bargaining chips against our trade partners. Inflation is the same as when Biden left office, grocery prices are up and he has alienated our EU and NATO allies. Our national debt is soaring. He has set a record for lowest approval at this point in their presidential administration. Besides being a convicted felon and adjudicated sexual assaulter, a racist and misogynist, Trump is a pathological liar.
He insulted Renee Good and Alex Pretti, falsely accusing them of wrongdoing and lied about ICE’s responsibility for murdering them.
Today, Bannon announced that Trump’s private army of heavily armed, incompetent and unaccountable ICE agents will “surround” the polls in the 2026 midterms to prevent another election from being “stolen”.
The 2020 election was NOT stolen—-Trump can’t stop lying about his loss because of his mental illness. There has never been any proof of widespread voter fraud, as dozens of recounts and audits prove ( as well as 60+ failed lawsuits), but Trump requires his army of syncophants to keep this lie going to spread doubts and distrust of the security of elections— all without any evidence and despite all proof to the contrary. What does ICE have to do with elections? Nothing, of course, so it’s clear that Trump is using ICE as his private army to help him rig the midterms.These are just a few reasons why Americans are enraged by Trump. NONE of this is normal or acceptable. Trump is an existential threat to our democracy and our right to choose our leaders. He KNOWS that most Americans will vote against Republicans and he fears impeachment. His mental illness cannot tolerate rejection.
THIS is “ Trump’s performance”, and no previous President has ever been as bad as Trump, so there’s nothing with which to compare.
^^^^^this is gigi, soaking in rage and revenge for HER low polling ‘likes’ on this blog.
like you
“Break that down by party and I think you will see that Trump has a massive division in support that Bush and Obama did not have.”
Bush maybe – Bush had weaked democrat support and stronger republican support.
Obama was as or nearly as divided on party lines as Trump
Regrdless the parties only make up about 60% of approval the rest comes from independents.
“Also consider that this isn’t a second consecutive term for Trump”
Absolutely – it is a historic non-consequtive term – only done once before.
Further unlike other 2nd term presidents – Trump’s presidency is not the typical “lame duck” – it is if anything acheiving more in a shorter time than his first term.
“one based on Make America Great Again – his polling numbers should be going up as America becomes Great.”
The year is young. The future is bright, the lies of the left and the MSM are harming themselves more than Trump.
“Compare Trump’s performance to every, separate, Presidential poll and get back after that”
Why ? Because like the typical left wing nut you will look at the facts and statistics 1000 different ways and then focus on the ONLY one way in which thing MIGHT be good for you ?
Plus John.
Biden left us with 20+million illegals and far more crime.
” downplay the seriousness of the damage Trump is doing to our country”
By doing WHAT ?
Enforcing the law ?
Please tell us exactly how Trump is “damaging” the country ?
By undoing some of the stupid mistakes left wing nuts have made ?
I get you do not like Trump.
I do not really like him either.
But that has absolutely nothing at all to do with the job he is doing.
He is far from my idea of the perfect president.
But I am not going to get that – and neither are you.
But some things are predictable about Trump.
First he is going to move mountains to try to keep the promises he makes.
We have not had a president that was true of in my lifetime.
Next he is going to follow the law.
You left wing nuts rant about so called lawlessness, but the FACT is he is enforcing the laws of the country,
and you have one SURE FIRE way to change that – CHANGE THE LAW.
He has also actually obeyed all the incredibly stupid rulings of left wing nut courts that are way way out over their skis – While appealing those orders, and pretty close to universally on appeal he has WON – why ? Because your idiot judges are way out over their skis and becuse Trump is following the law.
As to republicans – I have no great love there the best that can be said for most of them is they are not democrats.
Regardless, congress is NOT a “co-equal” branch of government. It is the LEGISLATIVE branch.
They make the law, they control the purse string they pass the budget
They are NOT the executive – they do NOT administer the laws.
The good thing about Trump is that UNLIKE again any other president in my lifetime he actually FOLLOWS the laws.
He has secured the border – because that is what our laws direct the executive to do.
He is deporting illegal aliens – because that is what our laws direct the executive to do.
If you change the law – then he will enforce the new law.
But you are not going to change the law – because a super majority of americans want the laws you loath.
Trump is not damaging the country YOU ARE.
When you can not get what you want by persuading people to vote for the laws you want,
You throw a hissy fit and try to obstruct the law any other way you can.
You claim to beleive in democracy – but you are the most anti democratic you can possibly be.
NO ONE likes all of the laws of this or any other country.
I argue here every single day about what is wrong with many of our laws.
But I am not looking to burn down the country because voters have not elected the leaders who will get rid of all the stupid laws I do not like.
I am not using my car to run over police officers who are enforcing laws I do not like.
I am not blocking streets to prevent law enforcement form enforcing the laws I do not like.
I am not calling the people who enforce the laws I do not like Nazi’s and the Gestapo.
YOU are the danger to the country.
YOU are the actual fascists.
“If the righteous anger felt by most Americans is nothing more than baseless “rage” ”
YOU are NOT most americans. Quit pretending to be.
A couple of thousand numnutz’s in minneapolis do NOT speak for the american people.
Are Some people – like you angry with Trump absolutely.
And even more are angry with YOU.
Even 56% of Minnesotans want this nonsense to stop – they want THEIR state and local govenrments to cooperate with ICE and get illegal aliens – especially Criminal illegal aliens out of the country.
If you do not wan to be the “bad guys” – quit behaving like a bunch of toddlers.
When you do not get what you want – stop throwing a Hissy fit.
If you do not like the laws – work to change the laws.
If you can not
SUCK IT UP
and live with them.
Your the idiots who beleive this is a democracy.
Your own the wrong side of the majority of the people – often of a super majority of the people.
As to “our shared values” – most of the country DOE NOT share your values.
That is OK – they do not share mine either.
That is how diversity which you claim to beleive in works.
The more diverse we are the FEWER shared values we have.
But there is one CORE value – that is absolute, or we do not have a country,
and that is the rule of law – not man.
That means when you do not get your way
SUCK IT UP.
Your not free to FORCE your values on the rest of us.
Without “the rule of law, not man” there are no shared values.
There is anarchy or tyranny.
It is YOU who disrespect “the rule of law”.
It is YOU who wishes to pick and choose the laws that you will obey or that government will enforce,
That is NOT the rule of law, that is the rule of man. That is anarchy or tyranny.
“nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest.”
“So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. ”
George Washington’s Farewell address.
I assure you that the people and leaders of every other nation on earth put their own interests first – and that is how it should be.
“America First, last and always” was the recomendation of non other than George Washington.
Our “aliies” seek their interests, just as we should seek ours. Often we have common ground.
“sending masked commandos who are killing people”
No one is doing that – they are called KAw enforcement – and they are enforcing US law, and they will stop doing that – when you succeed in changing the law. When you use FORCE against those enforcing the law – that MUST end badly for you – possibly in your death if you push hard enough. That is a requirement for “the rule of law” – which you keep paying lip service to, yet CLEARLY not understanding.
Law that is not enFORCED is no law, and a nation that does not en FORCE its laws – even the ones you do not like – is the rule of MAN not the rule of LAW.
“It’s not “the Left” that’s pushing for a federal takeover of elections— in contravention of the Constitution, or demanding voter rolls and ballots or who started the redistricting war.”
Apparently you have not read the constitution.
The constitution grants the power over federal elections FIRST to congress and then to the states.
Not just voter rolls – but ALL election information regarding federal elections is by law and constitution the domain of the federal government.
Once again Trump is enforcing the law. I would further note that much of the information being requested is not merely required to be provided by law, but the states routinely provide it to both political parties. Voter rolls are public records.
The FBI sought further records – including ballots from Fulton County GA because of credible allegations of criminal activity,
and a federal magistrate signed off on a search warrant because they found probable cause that a crime had been committed and that the information that the FBI sought would provide evidence of that crime.
Of course it is easy to see how such a warrant was granted as the Fulton County election commission has admitted under other that tabulations for 315,000 votes were counted without certfication by anyone as required by both law and sanity.
Of course the FBI wants ballots. Because that is the only way to verify if those uncertified tabulations are made up from thin air or are the correct results from tabulators that negligent or incompetent election officials failed to certify.
While there are choices that are not criminal, there are NONE that are innocent or law abiding.
There is either incompetence, negligence or fraud.
What there is NOT is “the most secure election ever”
Regardless, what are you worried about ? Going to jail ?
The 2020 election is over. Biden was innaugurated, Lawfully or not he was president for 4 years and nothing will change that.
You have claimed for years that the election was lawful and fraud free. Why are you terrified of sunlight ?
Why is it even necessary to get a warrant for these records ? Why can’t the press, review all the raw election records. and report on what they find ?
” It’s not “the Left” who are advocating for taking over Greenland “by force if necessary””
So ? Are you so stupid as to think this is the first time the US sought to take territory by FORCE ?
During both the revolutionary war and the war of 1812 – the US unsuccessfully invaded Canada.
There are myriads of examples in the past.
US teritories include large numbers of islands in the Pacific – some we took from the Japanese, Some we just took.
We strong armed denmark into selling us the US virgin islands a century ago. During WWII we occupied Greenland – and the british occupied Iceland over the objections of the government of Denmark.
and on and on and on.
TRump similarly threatened Panama, until Panama ended the global security threat posed by the Chinese.
While no invasion of Greenland was imminent, do you have the slightest doubt that ANY US president would seize it INSTANTLY if it was necescary to protect US security interests ?
The absolute duty of the US government is to protect the interests of the american people.
Every US president EVER would commit acts of war, violate international treaties, invade soverign foreign nations, if US nations security was threatened – it would be their DUTY to do so.
President Obama refused to rule out assassinating US citizens on US soil – and no president ever will rule that out.
No president will rule out invading Greenland if our national security it threatened.
“triggering NATO to send in troops to defend Greenland against US aggression.”
ROFL
And NO NATO did not send in troops – the commander of NATO told the europeans to make a deal with Trump, that US interests in Greenland were NATO’s interests too.
“It’s not “the Left” that outed Epstein victims”
That was pretty much everyone left and right that demanded that DOJ release several million documents in an incredibly short time.
When you make stupid and impossible demands – you get bad results.
There is zero doubt that the DOJ under Bush, Obama and Biden failed to give justice to Epstains victims.
Epstain and Maxwell were arrested during Trump’s first term. Thje only one who as tried to get justice for Epstain victims was Trump.
This is an idiotic losing argument for the left.
It is all of the lefts wealthy and affluent supporters that are being exposed as perverts.
“Anger over Trump and his incompetence and that of his administration is felt by the majority of Americans, reflected in historically low polling numbers by multiple polling agencies.”
You live in one of the thickest bubbles there is.
After the withdraw from afghanistan Biden’s approval tanked and never recovered.
Trumps numbers are fine and the same as they were on election day 2024.
Regardless YOUR anger does not reflect the views of the majority of americans.
Lots of rage in that response.
Trump didn’t even get 50% of the voters who were not even 50% of the population. I think that suggestion that 50% of Americans are below average is the best explanation for polls showing support for Trump.
Not simply rage.
This diatribe by the lunatic John Say is nothing more than the incoherent rambling of of a profoundly mentally ill individual standing on a street corner and screaming at passers by.
You will note that it is simply a series of completely disconnected random thoughts that flitter unfiltered through his impaired mind.
The inability to filter his thoughts into a logical argument is s sign of a deeply disturbed individual.
The clinical term is pressure of thought and pressure of speech. He has an uncontrollable urge to give voice to any random thought that occurs to him. This is the typical presentation of someone suffering from bipolar disorder.
LUNATIC ANON-POSTING SHIFF DAILY!!
More left wing lunacy.
I shredded point by point a number of obviously idiotic claims by a left wing lunatic.
You are perfectly free to use facts, logic, and reason to disprove ANY of my claims.
You left wing nuts keep calling Trump and ICE and DHS lawless for enforcing laws that you do not like.
That displays arrogance, dangerousness, and ignorance. it is litterally the opposite of the rule of law.
I do not personally like some of the things that are being done or the way they are being done.
But they are ABSOLUTELY lawful – with ZERO doubt.
If you do not want people who are in the country without citizenship, residence, ro a visa deported
CHANGE THE LAW – Congress in in Washington DC – not Minneapolis.
You want to change the rules for arrests, and entering peoples homes
CHANGE THE LAW
5th amendment search and seizure law is the MOST WELL DEVELOPED LAW in the US.
There is not one iota of a legal difference between a warrant signed by an article II INS judge and one signed by an article II magistrate. Both are appointed by the president and confirmed by congress and neither are article III judges.
Both are far more familiar with the law and constitution that a local district justice that is not even required to have a law degree.
Further “warrant” appears NOWHERE in the 4th amendment – the 4th amendment requires a SWORN statement establishing probable case and specifying what to search or seize.
Additionally from the time of the founders through the present there have ALWAYS been exceptions to the requirement for a warrant.
ICE is not even stretching the law a tiny bit.
Would I like to see warrants more broadly required ? Absolutely. If that is what you want
CHANGE THE LAW.
Except that is NOT what you want.
As we have learned recently – the FBI repeatedly told DOJ there was no “probable cause” to search MAL.
Trump was cooperating, the FBI had been told that they could come to MAL anytime they liked and search whatever they wanted.
i.e there was ZERO probable cause that a warrant was needed. the “lack of cooperation” nonsense is a lie that the Biden DOJ and SC Smith told the public and the courts.
My point is YOU do not want the law changed.
What you want – is for YOU and those who share your views to decide based on your feelings and beleifs who should be searched and who should not.
You do not want to change the law – and you would not follow it if you did.
YOU are the very definition of lawless.
You do not grasp that what is lawlful, and what you beleive to be morally right are NOT the same thing.
We ALL share the same law. We do NOT All share the same views of what is morally right.
BTW most of this is
Basic law 101,
“Not simply rage.”
Correct, not rage at all – just anger at stupid liars like yourself.
“This diatribe by the lunatic John Say is nothing more than the incoherent rambling of of a profoundly mentally ill individual standing on a street corner and screaming at passers by.”
Actually it is pretty much the actual LAW OF THE LAND,
and the product of 7000 years of evolution in governance.
It is not perfect, and you are free to try to change it through a process that is deliberately difficult, because we have spent 7000 years getting here, and while imperfect what we have works fairly well.
In particularly it still works well enough – even when many politicians and judges are corrupt of ideologically biased.
I pointed out that various judges were way out over their skis – yet, they are overturned on appeal eventually.
That is our system WORKING.
It is s a system that does not require those within it to be perfect all the time.
Even bad decisions by SCOTUS tend to ultimately get reversed.
Dredd Scott is no more, nor is Plessy v Furgesson.
As I noted – the system we have – “the rule of law” is NOT perfect, it gets things wrong.
But over time it tends to correct itself.
It does NOT depend on having perfect judges, perfect presidents, perfect legislators.
And YES, alot of people are angry – because idiots like you want to burn it down.
Because you constantly seek to replace something that has taken 7000 years to develop and DOES work even when we end up with bad people in power, with systems that demand perfection from our leaders and have NEVER worked in practice.
It is not an accident that when you burn down the rule of law, you get Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and a long long list of murderous tyrants.
“You will note that it is simply a series of completely disconnected random thoughts”
It is a point by point dismemberment of the comment I responded to.
Some sections are longer than others and require longer arguments based on fundimmental principles that are often thousands of years old – because you left wing nuts seek to burn to the ground the framework that we have spent thousands of years building.
And are far too stupid to grasp that you are not going to create a working system of law and government from scratch.
You have tried innumerable times since the French revolution and FAILED, your not going to do better in the highly unlikely even you get the opportunity to try again.
“The inability to filter his thoughts into a logical argument is s sign of a deeply disturbed individual.”
I have absolutely no need at all for your blessing on my logical abilities.
They obviously dwarf yours. I have spent most of my life working in fields that require perfection in logic to function.
Regardless, I need not attempt to inflate my credibility with my resume – though I could.
My arguements stand on their own.
And your inabiility to directly address the arguments with facts, logic and freason,
and your constance jump to logical fallacies such as ad hominem is itself proof of my arguments merits.
“The clinical term is pressure of thought and pressure of speech.”
Morons should not engage in amateur psychology.
I do not have either Bipolar disorder or Schitzophrenia.
though neither diagnosis would discredit my arguments.
Newton, Van Gogh., Beethoven, Churchill, are just a few of the geniuses with bipolar disorder.
Wittgenstein, Nash. Kerouac, are just a few of the geniuses with schitzophrnia
Regardless, I have neither.
“No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness”
Aristotle
And you are a moron who makes idiotic and fallacious arguments that you clearly have not thought through.
I can not stop you from shilling fallacious claims of mental disorder in those whose arguments you are unable to fault,
But I can point out that even if that were true – which it is not, it would not change anything.
I am not bipolar or schitzophrenic, I am not Newton, Witgenstein or Nash.
But it would not change anything if I were.
Red herrings and straw men are not arguments.
Hmmmm !!!!
Yet another completely incoherent diatribe by the lunatic John Say.
If this outburst is not extreme RAGE, then what exactly is it ????
I simply repeat what I said above.
This is nothing more than the incoherent rambling of of a profoundly mentally ill individual standing on a street corner and screaming at passers by.
You will note that it is simply a series of completely disconnected random thoughts that flitter unfiltered through his impaired mind.
The inability to filter his thoughts into a logical argument is s sign of a deeply disturbed individual.
The clinical term is pressure of thought and pressure of speech. He has an uncontrollable urge to give voice to any random thought that occurs to him. This is the typical presentation of someone suffering from bipolar disorder.
I suggested that this rambling incoherence is a clinical sign of bipolar disorder.
John Say now goes to extreme lengths to deny this diagnosis, with multiple attempts at denial.
But more interestingly, he also denies suffering from schizophrenia, which I never actually mentioned.
The fact that he also denies schizophrenia is clearly a Freudian slip.
Clearly an admission by him that he actually suffers from schizophrenia.
Note also that he says, “I do not have either Bipolar disorder or Schitzophrenia, though neither diagnosis would discredit my arguments.”
Clearly another admission, and an attempt to rationalize his mental illness.
This admission is all the more obvious by the way he goes to extraordinary lengths to describe how many great historical figures may have suffered from mental illness.
This is clearly yet another an attempt to rationalize the mental illness that he has now acknowledged.
“Methinks he doth protest too much”.
Ano
Lots of rage in that response.
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But it’s OK when X/george shows up and posts pages of hate. Right.
“Lots of rage in that response.”
Not “rage” anger at your incredible stupidity.
Is everyone supposed to sit arround and fart rainbows while people like you try to destroy “the rule of law” while idiotically claiming that you are supporting it ?
If you really beleived in the rule of law you would be angry about not enforcing laws that you do not like.
You would be angry about the courts meddling where they do not belong.
If you wish to claim that congress has delegated too much power to the executive – great. I agree.
But that was done starting more than a century ago,
While you can be upset about that – AGAIN place the blame where it belongs – Congress,
and more specifically – DEMOCRATS who have been expanding the power of the president since atleast Wilson.
And just like your anger over Immigration law enforcement – take your anger to those responsible – CONGRESS,
Again – THAT IS THE RULE OF LAW.
“Trump didn’t even get 50% of the voters”
So What ? Harris got even less.
“who were not even 50% of the population.”
What is new ? This is not Austrailia, no one is FORCED to vote.
If you do not vote then you made it clear that you did not care about either candidate enough to vote.
BTW that is a GOOD thing. The country would be better off the FEWER people voted.
Countries in which high percents of people vote are unstable.
Those are countries on the verge of a civil war.
People vote when they hold strong views.
“I think that suggestion that 50% of Americans are below average is the best explanation for polls showing support for Trump.”
More hypocracy from left wing nuts.
YOUR the idiots who beleive in direct democracy.
And yet here you are pi$$ing over half the country because you do not like the choice they made.
Regardless the people who voted for Trump understand far better than YOU what the rule of law means.
Nasseem Talib the author of the Black Swan has an excellent label for people like you.
IYI – intellectual Yet Idiot.
Regardless, you should not be criticising the intelligence of other people – YOU are obviously not smart enough.
For those who aren’t aware, John Say is a paid MAGA apologist. He repeats whatever the MAGA line of defense is, and they will not contradict whatever lies Trump is telling.
“Anger over Trump”
poor baby. LOL
“. . . triggering NATO to send in troops . . .”
They “deployed” about 30 men. Maybe large enough to hold off a Boy Scout troop.
The rest of your screed is equally laughable.
A United States Department of Justice report featured the following statement regarding 18th Street and rival gang MS-13: “These two gangs have turned the Central American northern triangle into the area with the highest homicide rate in the world”.
we’ve all come to look for america
Fascinating. We have here this brilliant legal scholar sharing his expertise with us for free And immature, spoiled, unemployed, middle aged, white women, who smoke, mocking him day and night. What he provides us absolutely free of charge, costs students $80,000 a year. He makes this forum available, himself. You will not find dumps like NEWSWEEK offering those who are not treasonous loudmouths to disagree with them. They censor contrary opinions and not one nutjob says a word about it.
This distinguished professor is often interviewed and quoted on both sides of the political line. He is a rarity, and writes as well as any intellectual in our nation and has a heart the size of Alaska and the discipline to apply the law with razor sharp discretion. What a gift! What a gift!! How blessed we are.
And how special to see the enemies of freedom and of America show their true colors as they spew crap all over everyone. Delightful punks, ain’t they.
It’s free of charge here because he is compensated to spread this message. He’s not limited to teaching students this.
lol
HE DON’T HAVE TO DO SQUAT, SWEETHEART
He advertising his book. He didn’t have to do that and it would be good if he stopped.
BANNED
A TRUE GENIUS! He pays himself to advertise on his website!
Just curious. Are u the dumbest idiot of all time? Seriously. No offense. I’m sure in real life you are quite a sweetie and not the dullest knife in the drawer. But, I wouldn’t open your computer keypad again, at least not around here.
IOW, GET LOST U STUPID FOOL!
WHY? Jealous.
So ?
. “Will the republic survive the 21st century”?
Perhaps in a galaxy far, far away. Stop lying to yourselves and find something to salvage. What is left after false census, gerrymandering, fraud at the polling places, fraud in county and State offices?
Notable voter strategies – emotional histrionics pulled in estrogen poisoning voters with DEI, sex all the time everywhere pulled the children’s vote, estrogen is half the vote alone based NOT in reason.
It’s passed tense. It did not. The lord has many mansions. This must be his shack down by the river.
Addressing the war being raged against the constitution.
The constitution is not the point. Nor is it the real impediment to those ranting about it.
The US constitution is the result of the evolution of human governance over the past 7000 years.
Its roots are in Hamurabi or the ten commandments. its evolved through socrates and greek democracies, through roman republics.
it grew through aristotle and aquinas. Through the Magna Carte, and the scottish enlightenment,
Through locke, and John Stuart Mill.
The enemy of those who wish to destroy the constitution is 7000 years of the evolution of our understanding of how to govern and the rule of law.
You can burn the constitution to ash and start over, but if whatever you create does not share the same foundations, principles that resulted in the declaration of independence and the US constitution – it will fail – and likely fail extremely quickly.
Those who rage against the constitution do so because it is an impediment to what they want.
But that impediment exists because 7000 years of history of government tell us how things go wrong without those restraints.
The Magna Carte did not come about because kings were too weak, but because they were too strong.
The constitution exists to give government enough power to do what it must, and not so much as to choke our liberty.
Experience – including that of the jacobins has taught us that it is when government is unfettered that things go to h311.
It is not the words of the constitution that the left hates,
it is its purpose – to make the exercise of government power very difficult.
To the extent the constitution is flawed – it is that there are too few shackles.
“To the extent the constitution is flawed – it is that there are too few shackles.”
That is correct, but incomplete. It is also flawed because it relied on the integrity and foresight of following generations to understand its objectives and to honor it. As Benjamin Franklin astutely and succinctly observed. They failed to do so. You may be of the opinion that they could have done a better job of ensuring that required behavior, and identify that as yet another instance of the lack of shackles, but I am uncertain that analysis would be correct.
I would be happy to have a discussion of what the Constitution should be.
But that is NOT my point.
My point is the constitution did not come out of nowhere – it is the product of 7000 years of evolution.
That whatever its flaws, you are not going to toss it and make something up from scratch without substantially reflecting that 7000 years of evolution with any expectation that the result would not be far worse.
With respect to the constitution itself – the left is correct – it is a living document.
They are just incorrect in how its meaning changes.
We do not change the constitution by newspeak word games.
We change it by amending it to say what our generation wishes to say.
There are many changes I would like to see in the constitution.
But I can no more legitimately make those changes than all the left wing nut law professors on earth.
Prof. Turley,
you and many others here – left and right are concerned with the rise in rage rhetoric and the age of rage.
I think all of us will admit to anxiety.
As you note – revolutions once started have a way of going out of control, or devouring their own.
But unlike you and many here – right and left, my anxiety over the future is tiny.
There are some who want a civil war, others who expect one
There is not going to be one.
Minneapolis is not Fort Sumter.
The left MAY have persuaded the majority to limit ICEs alleged excesses,
But they have not changed their mind about deporting criminal illegal immigrants,
Not only do a super-super majority want them gone, a majority also want state and local governments to cooperate.
ICE is NOT the critical issue,
it is just a demonstration that the left does not have the support of even a significant minority on ANYTHING.
56% still want ALL illegal immigrants – including the cute 5yr old boy and his father deported.
Do they have sympathy ? Absolutely.
Has that changed their minds ? Nope.
And again – the issue is NOT really immigration,
that is just the focal point of the far left.
Some on the right want the organizers of these intentionally violent “protests” arrested.
We should not do that.
Little would make me happier than seeing Don Leon fitted for an orange jump suit.
His conduct was clearly criminal. He was without a doubt trespassing. But that is a state felony and MN is not prosecuting.
I am opposed to using the FACE act or the Klan Act to prosecute Lemon federally – just as I was opposed tot he prosecutions of J6ers.
I do not want courts trying to sort out the lines between a free press and criminal advocacy.
I also do not want democrats – who will someday return to power given even more power to stretch federal criminal statutes to go after their enemies.
Better that Lemon get away with going a bit over the edge than seeing the next democrat DOJ go after Micheal Knowles or Matt Walsh or myriads of right and independent journalists who send the wrong message.
Nor is Don Lemon my point.
Lemon and others intentionally or otherwise expose these protests as astro-turf,
not organic.
This is not Fort Sumter in 1861.
It is a small portion of a lost generation of our poorly educated children most of whom would not be on the streets if they were not paid.
It is NOT a symptom of growing anger in the majority or even a significant minority.
It is performative.
it is making us anxious.
it is not consequentially changing our views or values.
This is a diverse country – including in our politics – much more diverse than our politicians.
We do not all share the same views.
What is important is that nothing even close to a significant minority share the views of the far left.
I understand your fear of the jacobins and the french revolution.
But it is more Maya Angelou and Sun Tzu that come to my mind.
When someone shows you who they are – believe them – the first time.
When your enemy is harming themselves – do not interfere.
We are not witnessing the begining of a civil war.
We are watching the descent into irrelevance of a significant part of the democratic party.
My fear is that the party in power is naturally kept on track by the threat of losing power to the out party.
Social Democrats in Sweden and Denmark flipped 180 degrees on immigration when it was clear that they would lose elections if they did not.
Throughout Europe we are either seeing the party in power change its polices or the party out of power move to take power.
In the US we are witnessing the democratic party self destructing, and that is not good for the country, it is not even good for republicans.
When John Stuart Mill notes that we MUST hear the counter to our own arguments from the best of those who disagree,
that is not just because those who do not agree have the right to speak, it is because none of us are good at perceiving our own flaws.
But the more bat$hit our political enemies, the less they function as a mirror to allow us to see our own problems.
John Say,
Another great comment.
I agree with you there are those who do want civil war or what they would label as a “revolution.” They seem to have delusions of grandeur.
I also agree with you that the possibility of a civil war is remote. I also have said, a civil war must be avoided at all costs as some people would die not a ear shot within a shot taken in anger.
However, I can also see some unknown flash point where there is a short but intense period of time where there is chaos and violence. And some totally unrelated people will take advantage of the situation to air old or even new grievances. Say there is some anti-ICE incident, in the violence and chaos, I could see anti-semites attacking Jews en mass.
Most of the time, my anxiety is low. Most of the time I just find myself reading the news and doing a facepalm over the stupid and crazy some say.
USF
It will only take crashing the dollar to start the carnage. There are a reported 40 million illegal immigrant interlopers in America. The percentage of people living paycheck to paycheck is higher than anything since the Depression. Do you know what the total population of American citizens was in 1863 at the commencement of the civil war, it was 42 million with 2 million slaves.
Quite interesting heh?
The number of dangerous violent illegal immigrants is far too large but it is only a couple of percent of the whole.
We are NOT going to see significant violence arise from illegal immigrants.
Even the current violent protests are significantly weakened – because few minorities are joining them – unlike the BLM riots.
Without addressing the RELATIVE strength or weakness of the dollar – there are positive and negative impacts for a strong and weak dollar.
A real Crash of the dollar is impossible without taking the entire global economy with it.
And today it is the rest of the world economy that is MUCH weaker than the US.
Significant damage to the US economy in the next couple of years will come from the outside – if it comes at all.
The greatest danger we face is that as the power of the left diminishes they are ever more likely to seek relevance with greater violence.
I am honestly surprised (and thankful) that no ICE agents were killed so far.
“unknown flashpoint” ?
Unknown as in out of nowhere ? Not happening.
Unknown as in we can not know exactly what stupid violent act on the left will come next ?
Absolutely.
There MIGHT be more ICE shootings of protestors.
There might even be some moderately stupid act by some right wing counter protestors.
But any true “flashpoint” is coming from the left – without a doubt.
Regardless, violent ideologies are often particularly violent as they lose power.
I expect exactly NOTHING to disrupt current trends. That does not mean the road will not be bumpy.
“I also do not want democrats – who will someday return to power given even more power to stretch federal criminal statutes to go after their enemies. ”
If and when the Democrats are returned to full majority power, one of the first things they will so is to pack SCOTUS with a dozen (or more) young, KJB-type, activist judges, who will show no deference whatsoever to the Constitution, precedent, or the rule of law when any of those considerations impedes their political agenda. That will guarantee that the Democratic woke left prevails for at least the following two decades, possibly indefinitely if they facilitate crass election interference, which is completely plausible. At that point, it is “game over”.
The current court has decided that stare decisis no long guides their decisions. They ignore precedent on a continuous basis and vote in support of the political agenda set by the Federalist Society, of which the super-majority are members.
It won’t be game over to remove the rabid radical right leaning justices from the court – bought and paid for with lavish vacations, cash bribes via relatives, and the gift of expensive motor homes.
Gideon, miranda, brown, loving, Griswald, loving, Obergefell, Times V Sullivan, Texas v. Johnson, Tinker, Rowe, Casey
These are ALL landmark supreme court cases that broke precident.
The free speech oppinions of HOlmes and Brandeis that are now the law of the land were expressed in DISENTS.
Stare Decisis is a VALUE – not a principle – principles are immutable values are not.
I find the sudden left wing embrace Stare Decisis, to be dripping in hypocracy.
Stare Decisis is the observation that we should take care before changing what has worked if imperfectly to this point,
because change is disruptive, dangerous and fails more often than it succeeds.
There is another name for “Stare Decisis” and that is conservatism. And again it is a VALUE, a guide, it is not a principle, or an ideology.
Another expression of Stare Decisis would be – if after all the argument you are unsure of the right answer, leave things alone –
again the core of conservatism.
all the above is just an observation of the hypocracy of the left.
Because with extremely few exceptions the current court has adhered to Stare Decisis.
The Few departures are returns to PRIOR precidents in areas where recent supreme court decisions had failed.
Dobbs restored the pre Rowe status Quo – thought Dobbs did NOT reverse Rowe – it reversed Casey which through Rowe out and started over.
So which are these SCOTUS cases where you think Stare Decisis has been ignored ?
“If and when the Democrats are returned to full majority power”
That is only likely to occur AFTER they have returned to being a sane more moderate party.
The far left of the democratic party is NOT going away. But so long as they continue to be the power within the democratic party the democratic party is not returning to national power.
So I do not agree with your speculation – not because many current democrats would not do that.
But because we are not going to see a president AOC.
You are correct that if the far left continues to control the democratic party AND democrats regain national majority status, your predictions will come true. But those are two big iffs neither of which is likely
You seem almost sad that the Democrats are self destructing, that you want them to exist, but only if they are Republicans voting with Democrat decals to cover their Republican inclinations.
That you feel the need for an opposition to guide your morality is a brilliant self-diagnosis. You want the Democrats to always lose, never be in control, and yet remain your conscience to point out the evils of the Republicans so that Republicans can ignore what they mirror.
This blog is just an infomercial.
The old joke about what you call a hundred lawyers at the bottom of the ocean may become more than a joke. “Legal Professionals” who decry the constitution as the problem, the one that protects them to spout such stupidity, just mind boggling.
Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the UC Berkeley Law School, is the author of “No Democracy Lasts Forever: How the Constitution Threatens the United States.”
As I’ve noted before, American law school professors trashing the US Constitution are like medical school professors for abolishing humans, vet school professors for abolishing pets, or B-school professors for communism.