Is Virginia Gov. Abigail Spanberger (D) a mole for the National Rifle Association (NRA)? After the recent scandal involving the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), some may wonder given a curious turn of events in Virginia. Gun sales have surged after Spanberger and the Democrats passed sweeping gun bans. Spanberger also issued a public statement that could help tank the legislation in court — resulting in the striking down of the law (or parts of the law) after spurring record gun sales.
After July 1st, it will be a misdemeanor to buy, sell, transfer, or make an “assault firearm.”
With a July 1 deadline looming, background checks and sales are surging in Virginia. Stores are reporting that they cannot keep weapons on the shelves as Virginians flood stores to beat the deadline.
State Sen. Saddam Salim, D-Dunn Loring, a Spanberger ally who introduced the bill, further fueled the panic by declaring that the legislation will “gradually” take these guns because these firearms “do not belong on our streets.”
Gun rights groups have long challenged the claims of Democratic leaders on these guns.
As I have previously written, these calls often appear entirely disconnected from the actual crime or the constitutional protections afforded gun owners, including President Biden demanding a ban on assault weapons after a shooting with a handgun. Biden and others often collectively call these guns “assault weapons,” a standard reference to such popular models as the AR-15.
The AR-15 is the most popular gun in America and the number of these guns in private hands is continuing to rise rapidly, with one AR-15 purchased in every five new firearms sales. These AR-15s clearly are not being purchased for armored deer. Many are purchased for personal and home protection; it is also popular for target shooting and hunting. Many gun owners like the AR-15 because it is modular; depending on the model, you can swap out barrels, bolts and high-capacity magazines, or add a variety of accessories. While it does more damage than a typical handgun, it is not the most powerful gun by caliber; many guns have equal or greater calibers.
That is why laws banning or curtailing the sale of the AR-15 would likely run into constitutional barriers.
The challenges to the Virginia law were greatly assisted by Spanberger herself, who admitted that the law would ban commonly used hunting guns. If the law is not amended, she could prove the main witness against her own signed legislation.
We have a Second Amendment protection of gun ownership, with over 490 million guns in private hands, as of 2022. In 2008, the Supreme Court handed down a landmark ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller, recognizing the Second Amendment as encompassing an individual right to bear arms. The Supreme Court further strengthened the right in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen.
So, media reports indicate that, since January, the number of background checks has skyrocketed with 75,376 background checks in May alone, more than double the amount in May 2025.
The peak was reached in March when 79,846 background checks were done compared to only 47,069 last year. These citizens are going to make large payments for these guns and have a heightened interest in the political issue.
After adding tens of thousands of assault weapons to her state, Spanberger’s comments may then help greatly in striking down all or parts of the law.
If this trend continues, Abigail Spanberger may prove to be the greatest pro-gun influencer since Charlton Heston.
Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the New York Times best-selling author of “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.”
Politicians only say and do what they think will win political brownie points with their base. If the law is declared unconstitutional, they don’t care. In fact, they like it because then they can blame the courts and use it in campaign pitches promoting themselves as the solution.
OldManFromKS,
Correct.
And throwing around the term “assault firearm,” is disingenuous or applying them to anything that looks . . . scary.
Biden calling for a gun ban of firearms like the AR15 after a crime was committed using a handgun only goes to show it is not about fighting crime but just plain gun control. The majority of gun related crimes committed is done with handguns. Not long guns. A fact the Democrats seem to leave out.
“Politicians only say and do what they think will win political brownie points with their base. ”
Exactly. Virtually all politicians are hypocritical, power-hungry, scum, and the system is set up to perpetuate that. Unless and until that changes, we are doomed to be their subjects and playthings, rather than citizens of the Republic that the U. S. was designed to be. Unfortunately, I see no dynamic that is likely to change that.
Looks like Virginians can still buy firearms after July 1. They aren’t banning everything.
The legislation explicitly excludes and does not ban the manufacturing of the following firearms:
Manually Operated Firearms: Any firearm operated by bolt-action, pump-action, lever-action, or slide-action.
Antique Firearms and Relics: Any firearm classified legally as an antique, or those officially designated as a curio or museum relic.
Permanently Inoperable Firearms: Any firearm that has been modified to be permanently incapable of discharging a shot.
Featureless or Compliant Semiautomatic Rifles: Semiautomatic centerfire rifles that lack the specific restricted military-style cosmetic features (such as a folding/collapsible stock, a secondary forward handgrip, or a threaded barrel).
Rimfire Semiautomatic Rifles: Semiautomatic rifles chambered in rimfire cartridges (like .22 LR), which fall outside the centerfire assault weapon restrictions.
Standard Semiautomatic Shotguns: Shotguns that do not fail the legislation’s specific shotgun feature test (such as certain revolving cylinders or detachable magazine configurations).
Compliant Semiautomatic Handguns: Handguns that carry a magazine capacity of 15 rounds or fewer and lack restricted features like threaded barrels.
Additionally, the law includes an exception allowing the continued manufacture of restricted “assault firearms” if they are produced strictly for sale to the U.S. Armed Forces, law enforcement agencies, or state military colleges.
It seems you can still buy an AR style firearm. Just a plain Jane kind with no ability to modify one with ‘cool’ military add ons.
X, we can all just look at AI if we want, we don’t need you reciting it endlessly.
You can, but….do you? I post a few tid bits just n case you miss it.
X the law is unconstitutional.
Your own argument make it clear that no only is it unconstitutional but it is stupid.
As you openly admit – you are banning “Cool”
You are doing the equivalent of banning red cars, or chrome on motorcycles.
Something does not become rational or constitutional – because you can describe what you are doing.
It is not “reasonable” – because you say it is reasonable.
It is not effective – because … – I am not sure what – because nothing you have done is effective in anyway.
The courts have already ruled the law is unconstitutional.
Sherriffs and prosecutors throughout the state have already said they will not enforce it – it is not constitutional.
But this WILL have an effect until it is finally struct down by the Supreme court.
Almost no gunshop in VA is going to choose to risk going to jail to challenge the law.
While the law will be challenged and will be struck down – it will STILL infringe on peoples rights until that happens.
“Looks like Virginians can still buy firearms after July 1. They aren’t banning everything.”
Virginians can not buy the guns they want.
The constitution does not say – you can speak – but only about things the govenrment allows
You can assemble – but only for purposes the govenrment allows.
You can practice your religion – but only the religions the govenrment allows.
A constitutional right is something that the Government must meet an extremely high standard to infringe upon.
You have the constitutional right to the firearm YOU WANT – you the one the govenrment allows you.
If you do not like that – change the constitution.
“The legislation explicitly excludes and does not ban …”
The State of Virginia -= nor any other state gets to decide which firearms people may buy and which they can not.
“Manually Operated Firearms”
All firearms are manually operate.
Have not yet seen an AR-15 that requires batteries.
Regardless YOUR/VA’s list makes the POINT perfectly clear.
Something is not a right – if the state getsd to control it.
The 2nd amendment does not say
” the right of the people to keep and bear both action firearms Arms, shall not be infringed.”
There are no qualifiers.
“Permanently Inoperable Firearms: Any firearm that has been modified to be permanently incapable of discharging a shot.”
There is no such thing. There is a former military rotting in jail right now because he sold antique military weapons that had been disabled by cutting them with a torch. He bought these from Firearms dealers who disabled them and then sold them to collectors.
He did not modify them after they had been disabled.
Biden’s ATF went after him – they took the parts he sold Welded them back together – in most cases – still ending up with inoperable guns – or ones very dangerous to fire. The Weapons that ATF reconstructed we rarely able to fire at all, never safely and in the fire instances they succeeded – the could only fire once.
Yet he was convicted and is rotting in prison because these guns were not permanently disabled.
If you have the skills – there is no such thing as permanently disabled.
“Featureless or Compliant Semiautomatic Rifles: Semiautomatic centerfire rifles that lack the specific restricted military-style cosmetic features (such as a folding/collapsible stock, a secondary forward handgrip, or a threaded barrel).”
And in what world do you think it is reasonable to infringe on the Cosmetic aspects of a constitutional right ?
All this does is demonstrate how much of an idiot you are – You are regulating ho scary something can look – not how effective it is.
BTW there are two consequential differences between Centerfire and rimfire weapons – rimfire ammunition is cheaper and less reliable.
If you beleive these Banned weapons are “Assualt Weapons” You – and the rest of the VA legislature – should be sent off to Iran and given these weapons and ordered to “assault” Kahrg Island.
These are NOT Assault weapons – Most of the weapons you hate the most are “area defense weapons” they are pi$$ poor choices if you are “assaulting” but good choices if you are trying to defend your home.
“Additionally, the law includes an exception allowing the continued manufacture of restricted “assault firearms” if they are produced strictly for sale to the U.S. Armed Forces, law enforcement agencies, or state military colleges.”
There are no long guns that meet your “assaut weapon” definition that are sold to the military – they do not want them.
They have ACTUAL assault weapons.
“It seems you can still buy an AR style firearm. Just a plain Jane kind with no ability to modify one with ‘cool’ military add ons.”
Again your own arguments prove your stupidity.
Can we ban churches that are “cool” ?
Regardless, as is typical your idiotic law accomplishes NOTHING – except denying peoples rights.
Nothing in your long list of restrictions has ANYTHING to do with reducing criminal violence.
It has nothing to do with reducing lethality – though obviously that would be unconstitutional – self defense REQUIRES being abler to stop an assailant – and more stopping power means more lethality.
Even your magazine limits – which SCOTUS has already overruled – what your allowed to defend yourself from one or two assailants – but not three or 4 ?
People are trained to shoot at the Center of mass – it is the easiest to hit and the least likely to result in a miss that injures or kills a bystander.
This is also why the lefts “shoot them in the legs or arms” is idiocy – if you miss – and you likely will – you pi$$ off the assailant and increase the odds you hit someone else. Further very very few single hits are lethal or even disabling. Again why you do not try to shoot people in the arms or leg. Whether you hit or miss – they are coming to kill you.
NYPD officers hit what they are aiming for 37% of the time from distances less than 7yards. That means a 15 round clip will produce 5 hits.
If the suspect shoots back – that rate drops to 18% – or 3 hits from a 15rd magazine.
It typically takes 4 hits to stop a determine attacker.
The VA law means you right to self defense is limited to only 1 attacker.
There is no constitutional right to marry.
Yet in Loving vs., VIRGINIA the Supreme court found that VA could not use the cosmetic issue of skin color to restrict marraige.
In Obergefell the Supreme court found that states could not use sexual orientation to restrict marraige.
And you think that restricting firearms on the basis of cosmetic features is going to fly ?
Oh boy. Once again, Turley is not being completely honest with the facts. I know many will roll their eyes, but….it’s true.
Turley wrote: State Sen. Saddam Salim, D-Dunn Loring, a Spanberger ally who introduced the bill, further fueled the panic by declaring that the legislation will “gradually” take these guns because these firearms “do not belong on our streets.”
That is a gross mischaracterization of what Salim said. Turley wrote it to make it look like they are planning on taking people’s guns. Nope. This is the full quote
“Currently, there are so many assault weapons in circulation. This approach will gradually take the weapons off the street without retroactively making it a crime to own a weapon that was legally purchased,”
To those with reading comprehension problems, it means she’s talking firearms made after July 1 that may have been purchased.
Turley pushes his disingenuous narrative further by leaving out the fact that there is a grandfather clause. It allows firearms purchased before July 1 to be legal. Nobody is taking their guns. Of course Turley won’t mention that particular fact because it degrades the narrative he’s trying to push and that is creating panic and rage against the governor and the democrats of the state.
It’s the same story. Mislead on the facts cause panic buying because people don’t know how to read properly and use it to misrepresent reality.
While your analysis of Turley post may be accurate, a larger point is completely missed by you. This law is blatantly unconstitutional. It is also totally useless. Less than 1% of ALL homicides are committed by semi automatic rifles. That is a smaller % than the % of violent crime committed by Illegal aliens.
Let’s solve REAL problems before I venting new ones.
Perhaps, but it even less than 1% is not zero. To some that is still not acceptable. Because that tiny percentage can still mean one is used in a mass shooting. What doesn’t change is the ability to purchase a firearm in Virginia. They are just limiting certain types and features. According to the law you can still buy something like a .45 or a desert eagle or a nice shotgun to defend your home.
Knives are responsible for 8% of all US homicides. In the UK it DROPPED to 4% recently.
Are you going to ban knives next ? London has done that – Except for Cerimonial weapons – like the one that Killed Henry Nowak who bled to death as the police hand cuffed him – because – White Boy Bad, Brown Boy good – regardless of the bloody knife in his hand.
“To some that is still not acceptable.”
And some do not get to decide what is acceptable to all.
VA has had to accept that different races can marry.
All states have had to accept that people of the same sex can marry.
These are not acceptable to very many people.
“Because that tiny percentage can still mean one is used in a mass shooting.”
In 2025 there were 358 mass shooting deaths – now most of those “mass shootings” are NOT what most people think of as a mass shooting. A Gang driveby would be a mass shooting, An armed robbery in which 4 people get shoot would be a mass shooting.
Actually read the descriptions of “mass shootings” in the US – aparently fights at New Years Eve Parties result in frequent mass shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2025
According to statista – Rifles of Any kind were present in 71 “mass shootings” over the past 50 years.
Present is not the same as used.
Statisa is using a definition of Mass Shooting that is closer to what most of us think of as a mass shooting – and over those 50 years there were only 120 “mass shootings” – about 3 a year.
You are making compound catagory errors.
All rifles deaths are not murders – Few are.
All rifle deaths are not murders with AR-15’s – very few are.
All Riffle deaths are not mas murders by AR-15’s – you have use the entire nation and many decades to get a handful of AR-15 deaths in Mass shooting.
A Mass shooting is probably the ONLY crime in which AR-15s are used,
Burglars do not use AR-15’s Bank robbers do not use AR-15’s
Drive By Shooters do not use AR-15’s
In fact almost no CRIMES are committed with Riffles.
A FEW are committed with Shotguns
Even in Mass shootings – Shotguns deaths and use is much more common that AR-15’s.
An AR-15 is not USEFUL when committing most Crimes. Long guns generally are not useful when committing crimes.
Even crimes like School shootings – when deranged trans left wing nuts actually carry AR-15’s into the school because they look
“cool”. AR-15’s are not used for the shootings – an AR-15 is a horrible close quarters weapon.
It is a DISTANCE weapon – and a particular type of that – it is an Area DEFENSE weapon.
MAYBE MAYBE a “mass shooter would use and AR-15 to fire out a schools windows to keep the police from getting close.
Further you would NOT use an AR-15 as a sniper weapon – you would use a bolt action rifle.
An AR-15 is not an “assault weapon” – its Only use in Crimes is to keep the police at a distance and only in situations like mass shootings at schools where the police have to cover 100yrds of open terrain to get in the school.
A complete and total ban and confiscation of every “assault rifle” in the US would have ZERO effect on Crime.,
ZERO effect on Mass shootings. ZERO effect on Gun deaths.
But they are very useful in many types of sport shooting, and some types of hunting.
You do not typically hunt a dear or any large animal with an AR-15. You hunt small game.
You need large caliber very accurate weapons – like bolt action rifles for large game – or even sniping at humans.
While there are a tiny portion of AR-15’s that are both large caliber and accurate – they are extremely expensive and not common.
X’s analysis is NOT accurate.
Gradually eliminate means slowly reduce to ZERO.
It does NOT mean preserve the status quo.
He is playing word games BADLY.
He accuses others of poor reading comprehension – but fails to comprehend the clear meaning of the very statement he claims means something else.
Xlax
It is a well established fact that these Democrats want nothing more than to disarm the citizenry. Your attempt to besmirch Professor Turley for his honest representation of their ongoing attempts only further demonstrates you as a disingenuous full on dullard with TDS and a internet case of lawyer envy.
You don’t have to respond as you will have no return to the matter.
Democrats don’t want to take your guns away. That’s just a scary claim made by those who want to scare YOU so you can vote for them. All they want is sensible regulation. Regulation is not unconstitutional. As I pointed out, the ban does not mean you can’t purchase a firearm in Virginia. You can still buy a rifle, shotgun, even a big ol’ desert eagle. Calm down, breathe. It’s not the end of the world.
AI Overview to “Do some Democrats want to take guns?”
Yes, some Democratic politicians support mandatory buybacks or confiscation for certain types of firearms, while the broader party platform generally focuses on implementing stricter regulations rather than widespread confiscation. Stances vary widely across the party:
Mandatory Buybacks: A faction of Democrats have explicitly supported confiscation or mandatory buyback programs for specific firearms. For example, during the 2020 presidential primary, candidates like Beto O’Rourke notoriously campaigned on a mandatory buyback program for AR-15s and similar semi-automatic rifles.
Democrat Presidential Candidate Robert Francis “Beto” O’Rourke gets thunderous applause from Democrats when he says, “Hell yes, we’re going to take your AR-15; AK-47.”
” This approach will gradually take the weapons off the street without retroactively making it a crime to own a weapon that was legally purchased,”
Seems self-contradictory to me – how can you take them off the street if it’s illegal for them to get there in the first place?
It’s not. You’re not reading it in its proper context. The whole point of the ban is to stop the manufacture of a specific type. Not all of them. If someone or a manufacturer sells a specifically banned weapon it can be legally confiscated based on its manufacturing date and type. Not those prior to the date of the ban.
I agree it’s a bit odd how it was phrased but the intent is not about taking whatever you have at the moment.
Turley is taking advantage of the odd phrasing and made it look like it meant peoples guns will be taken “gradually”. That is not true.
X, I am so glad you are here! I have been waiting all morning to see how you would correct Turley! All these assault weapons have no place on our streets! I have an uncle who was in the military and he said those were not assault weapons as they can only shoot a single shot with each pull of the trigger and only assault weapons are ones with something called select fire and only the military and like law officers have those. Well I am just going to show him your comment and right you are and wrong he is!
“Oh boy. Once again, Turley is not being completely honest with the facts.”
Of course he is.
YOUR complete incontext statement says the same thing as Turley said.
Is it reasonable to beleive that Salim intends to confiscate guns – absolutely.
First because Salim did not say you could continue to possess a legally purchased weapon – only that it would not be a crime to have owned one.
But more importantly – Salim made it explicitly clear the goal is to eliminate these weapons.
The law as currently written can not gradually remove these weapons from the streets. It merely keeps the same levels as VA currently have.
Your the one being disengenuous.
“To those with reading comprehension problems”
Gradually eliminate means REDUCE to ZERO – it does NOT mean preserve the status Quo.
The law is unconstitutional with or without the grandfather clause.
It is however more unconstitutional without it.
I do not own a AR15 and have no intention of doing so. It is a product of the MIC: “The candidate that wins the contract is the one that met the most requirements at the lowest cost.”
Yep. Feel that “lowest cost” every time you pull the charging handle to the rear.
However, if I lived in VA, I would consider buying one just to be one American to up the sales of said firearm.
“Firearms don’t belong on the streets. Therefore you can’t have them in your homes or in the woods.”
Illiberal illogic in a nutshell.
This pattern emerges every time a gun ban is proposed. By now, advocates of gun bans must recognize that it will result with more gun sales. Yet they seem unable to approach the issue differently. This suggests that the movement, and perhaps the Democratic Party more broadly, is highly organized, intolerant of dissent, and resistant to change unless such change is initiated by its leadership.
What was that old maxim about “identifying lunacy by when it keeps trying the same thing without success?”
@gfonaldallen
Yup. For the party of ‘change’ they sure fight like cornered animals when their status quo is threatened. Fixed objects tend to break. 🤷🏽♂️ Globalist authoritarians dragging us back to feudalism being trotted out as ‘progressive’ is simply hilarious.
gdonaldallen,
You are correct.
All they keep doing with these laws is strengthen previous precedent and the 2ndA. For Democrats it is repeating a, “What this! Hold my beer!” moment.
*”Watch this! Hold my beer!”
Autocorrect . . . .
Looks like Spanberger shot herself in the foot.
Self-sabotage is not yet a crime in Virginia.
Gun sales surge every time some Leftist like Spanberger attempts to introduce a sweeping gun ban. It may stir up their political base and donations, but it does not go unnoticed by those they are targeting.
Abi proves that you can take the girl out of Jersey but you can’t take the Jersey out of the girl, right Mikie?
Bah haha! Spambarfer is nobody’s stooge or mole as a trained dis and misinformation specialist. She takes radical steps and then has follow up to ensure the radical is the new normal. At the next session she will make POSSESSION of these weapons illegal if not registered with the State and follow up with a task force to track every sale to the registry. Then once the Stalinists take over the FED in 2029 she will run a “voluntary” assault rifle turn-in and track to the registry. Anyone not ‘volunteering’ will get a visit from the State PoPo for a chit chat, etc. until they do volunteer. Takes a bit longer to get to confiscation but NIRVANA will be reached before she leaves office.
I think the statement here from Senator Salim has more damaging potential than Gov. Spanbereger’s about banning hunting guns. From the piece. “Sen. Saddam Salim, D-Dunn Loring, a Spanberger ally who introduced the bill, further fueled the panic by declaring that the legislation will “gradually” take these guns because these firearms “do not belong on our streets.””
Why do people need guns?
Because bad people have them.
Because the bad guys have guns.
Because people engage in hunting.
Because people engage in sports that use guns.
Because the government has guns.
Look no further than Iran as an example of what happens when the government has guns, the bad guys have guns and hunting/sports are deemed irrelevant reasons to own guns.
ask a disarmed Israeli how it worked out for them when the terrorists invaded?
Self defense from the millions of violent, criminal illegals Biden let in.
In defense of the Constitution when tyrannical far leftists attempt to undermine the Constitution, pack the SC, add Puerto Rico and DC as states to gain seats in Congress, make and pass laws to ensure no one but them win elections again!
Sound crazy? Sure does. But the far leftists Democrats are the ones who said it!
Heck, just check this out, James Carville endorses ‘f—ed up’ Platner, compares him to US allying with Stalin to win WWII
“He’s f—ed up, he’s been shot at, he’s a veteran, he’s a little bit weird, he’s an oysterman.”
“If you believe, as I do, that the country is in imminent peril — I mean imminent peril — who is most likely to slow this criminal in charge? Susan ‘Blueberry Jelly’ Collins, or five degrees off dead center Graham Platner?” Carville asked. “I think it’s Graham Platner.”
https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-carville-endorses-f-ed-up-platner-compares-him-us-allying-stalin-win-wwii?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Right, self defense
What a strange question.
It’s called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs.
War
Spanberger will go down in history as the greatest Gun sales person and the WORSE Governor in the history of Virginia. A growing list of County Sheriffs, County DA’s etc. state they will not enforce the Dem new gun laws etc. They will abide by the US Constitution, 2nd Amendment. Spanberger ran as a Middle of the Road Fake Candidate but governs, along with the VA DEM’s extreme Left Wing policies. Come elections the people of VA will vote against these left wing policies, tax increases, restrictive policies, infringe on the rights of individuals and elect Republicans into the majority in the state house/senate and overturn the Left Wing policies and laws.
Scalpels are more efficient instruments to entertain abortive ideation, are reusable, and sustainable arms to relieve “burdens” h/t Obama of evidence for Sim-ulated justice.
She is somewhat like Mr Obama who spurred firearms sales to Olympian heights every time he started talking gun control. Being a firearm user myself it was always apparent that if Mr Obama talked, sales of AR 15’s went up and the price of it’s ammunition would also go through the roof and/or become difficult to find. I would suggest waiting until the initial hysteria starts to wane and then buy in bulk.
I note multiple Sheriffs in Virginia have already said they will not enforce the law.
Of course a good bolt action Springfield 1903 firing 30.06 is deadlier at an event greater distance that an AR 15.
Two different tools. A good toolchest has many tools.
Remember Virginia Gov. Abigail Spanberger (D) is a moderate Democrat even though she is far left and woke. There are much worse Democrat from her, and they are also lying and hiding their true agenda.
One of our 2 major parties is working diligently to achieve a single party authoritarian, socialist government. The Supreme Court is the final barrier remaining to stop them which is why they promise to pack the court if they ever achieve power again. Venezuelan elected Hugo Chavez. We can make the same choice with a similar outcome.
All of the guns should be melted down and turned into a huge statue of America’s best president ever: Obama.
I sincerely hope that is sarcasm.
No need to do that with guns! They already created one of the ugliest ‘statues’ on the face of the earth and, fittingly, put it in Chicago. They call it Obama’s presidential library. Fitting in every aspect.
The Obama lobrary resembles a giant bullet more than anything else.
A bulging milk carton but would its aero dynamics and materials sustain it through a nuclear blast or direct hit?
Virginia elected her. They knew who and what she was prior to the election. The people of Virginia had a choice, they chose and now they suffer as a result. It’s Virginia’s problem. Let Virginia deal with her.
Exactly what are Virginians suffering?
In terms of this article, a loss of freedom.
Virginians are suffering from incompetence that has threatened their very right to representative government, squandering of taxpayer monies on unconstitutional activities, increase in taxes in a state that previously had a balanced budget and a governor who is at best a poor deceiver and possibly an outright liar with fool for an AG. And all while Virginia waits for the ‘affordability’ that Gov. Abi promised.
Still she lied during the campaign by what she both said and what she didn’t say. Many people are easily fooled.
@Clarke
The point being, the regime she represents is relentless, funded, and covered for, and if it continues unabated it will metastasize like any other socialist/communist cancer. The time for the type of reticence in your comment is long, long gone. This could very easily be anywhere and everywhere in no time if we do not stand firm.
Pay attention to EVERYTHING, things like this, the lockdown – they were and are but a preview.
You yourself may very well be able to handle a hot civil war; an awful lot of innocent people of all stripes unequivocally could not, we do not want things to go that far.
“You yourself may very well be able to handle a hot civil war; an awful lot of innocent people of all stripes unequivocally could not, we do not want things to go that far.”
I fear that we are already too far down the road to a stark, binary, choice between civil war and submission to create any other alternative. Speaking for myself alone, I will never choose submission.
Remember Patriots, one is none and you can never have too much ammunition🤣
Refuse to comply. Make them kick doors. Never voluntarily surrender your guns. According to ATF 700 million guns in circulation. The numbers are against them. Molon labe
It was about 15 years ago that the ATF estimate was 400-700M. Conclusion: no idea how many.
AMMO AMMO AMMO
@Oldfish
Yes, and I think we’ve gotten to the point with the likes of Antifa where they are *itching* to test that theory. And they would do it without consideration or remorse, the modern left are not well.
That would certainly clean out all the hoomans.
Old Fish
All one has to do is look at ICE and CBP for a clear reference of how an enforcement action would go on this. They are after non citizens and criminals whereas this would be against legal law abiding citizens, quite a far difference.
The ATF would attempt a taking, they would be met with a hail of bullets, a few patriots would die, a few Agents would die. The incumbent dikheads would arise to the MSM pulpit, we would have some riots, more people would die, cities would be burnt and enforcement actions would subside until the next election.
It would go a bit different when the government goes against their own law abiding citizens that are fully armed.
Banning the AR-15 is plainly wrong.
Year in and year out, more Americans arw killed using hands and feet than with all long guns.
And the militia purpose of the Second Amendment means we should be able to own the current service rifle, the M4, as we were able to do from 1776 to the 1950s when the M16 came in
M16 is a definite assault weapon. 😂