Dr. Fauci’s Contempt of Congress Can Be Challenged but his Contempt for the Public is Undeniable

“Today I am the most famous and talked-about person in the country.” Those words from the diary of Dr. Anthony Fauci will certainly be true today as the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs moves forward with holding him in contempt for refusing to answer over a hundred questions about his past conduct and statements as the former head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

The contempt vote will start a process that is fraught with political and legal challenges. Even putting aside the objections to the direct referral from the Committee to the Justice Department (rather than submit the matter to a full Senate vote), there remain serious questions about whether Fauci can be held in contempt after invoking his right to remain silent under the Fifth Amendment. As I have previously stated, this area is rather murky and Fauci likely has the advantage in any litigation.

At the outset, it is important to note that Fauci always faced a risk of perjury in his prior appearances. Even if immunized, a witness can always be prosecuted for false statements. Fauci is in a much stronger position today than he was in prior hearings due to the sweeping pardon he received from former President Joe Biden. Yet, he suddenly decided to remain silent when his own words came back to contradict him.

Now for the legal questions.

If a witness is immunized, they can be compelled to testify. If, for example, the Senate granted Fauci immunity, there would be little question about his answering these questions as well as the ability to charge him for any false statements.

The Senate Committee is arguing that the Biden pardon had the same impact. Since Fauci cannot be prosecuted for any acts during the extended period of the pardon (going back to 2014 when the government allegedly funded “gain-of-function research). Chairman Rand Paul did an excellent job in putting this issue into sharp relief in his final set of questions by framing his inquiry as confined to the period of his pardon.

The argument is credible and, for many, compelling: since Fauci cannot be prosecuted for any conduct during the pardon period, he has no legal exposure so long as he speaks truthfully.

For Fauci, that is a question that could be highly subjective. He referred to the risk of a “perjury trap” in his opening statement. He declared, “The only conclusion I can reach is that the sole reason he is calling me before this committee is to get me to say something — anything — that could vindicate his repeated public pledges that I end up, in his words, quote, ‘behind bars.’”

Even that statement could present a matter for litigation. Congress previously found in 2013 when high-ranking IRS leader Lois Lerner also pleaded the Fifth after giving an opening statement before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

The Justice Department under the Obama Administration refused to prosecute. Fauci will argue that such a general statement does not waive the privilege and that, when asked a question, he promptly and consistently invoked it.

Of course, this is the Trump Administration, not the Obama Administration. Ironically, if the matter is litigated, the Administration will be in the position of defending the pardon, which it has long questioned, as the result of Joe Biden’s infamous autopen. The ability to hold Fauci in contempt becomes dependent on that pardon being valid.

The Justice Department can argue that the Supreme Court has consistently held that the mere fear of a perjury charge is insufficient to compel witnesses who are immunized, dating back to 1896 in Brown v. Walker. 

Moreover, the Supreme Court has held that “anticipatory perjury” is not a basis for such a refusal to testify in cases such as United States v. Apfelbaum.

However, Fauci can cite new state investigations as unaffected by the federal pardon, as well as new questions arising outside the pardon that could theoretically pose ongoing risks of criminal prosecution.

Courts have generally adopted broad interpretations to protect the right to remain silent, a touchstone of our legal system. That is why I believe Fauci likely has the edge in any challenge.

The fact is that it is uncertain. The cases in this area remain relatively sparse, and any pardon case is highly case-specific to the confines and scope of the specific pardon.

If so, Fauci can remain silent, but that silence will remain deafening for many in this country.

The right to do something does not make it the right thing to do. Fauci, in my view, was wrong to invoke the privilege against self-incrimination even if it was his right to do so. Millions of Americans lost loved ones during the pandemic, and the United States had one of the worst records in dealing with COVID-19 in terms of costs and deaths. Fauci’s diaries exposed disturbing contradictions between what he previously stated publicly and what he actually believed. Americans have a right to know the truth, and Fauci was not saying a thing, invoking the privilege 111 times.

He will say nothing to the families who lost loved ones or the business owners ruined by now-debunked pandemic measures.

He will say nothing to the scientists who were canceled, blacklisted, and fired for opposing these policies. Those scientists did not get the bobbleheads and celebrity photos that Fauci celebrated in his diaries. As the mob hounded them, Fauci said nothing as he gushed about his own fame in his diary.

He will say nothing despite the protection of a presidential pardon. For that, he should be rightfully condemned. Fauci’s contempt of Congress is challengeable, but his contempt for the public is undeniable.

Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the New York Times best-selling author of “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.”

316 thoughts on “Dr. Fauci’s Contempt of Congress Can Be Challenged but his Contempt for the Public is Undeniable”

  1. I’d prefer Dr. Fauci testify candidly in a closed session first, in case the facts brought forth could provide evidence for other nations to sue the USA. Then, there should be an open session where everything non-injurious to our country can be revealed. Is it asking too much that our internal bickering not damage our country?

    1. 693,652,970 vaccines shipped worldwide from the USA.
      The sound of your statement reveals that you are thinking like a politician with something to hide or a corporation with something to hide.
      What happened to transparency in MAGA world? The guess the Swamp ate it?

    1. Turley never made any statement as such or implied it. Too stupid to get facts eh? Typical liberal idiot.

    1. Biden made history too, but can’t remember what and when.
      Obama made history too, the the first mullato homosexual president who married a man..

      1. Turley’s “Civility Rule” died a quiet death because he didn’t bother to enforce it.

        1. If you took the time to read his disclosure he never said he would enforce a “civility rule”, implying since we’re (allegedly) all adults etc… Surprise huh?
          He state he does not respond to emails (the majority here are a bunch of whiny Karens) or read the comments – smart huh?
          So, looks like civility has disappeared thanks to you adult commenters.

  2. Says a Fauci Fanboy:

    Fauci “doesn’t deserve this harassment.”

    You’re right.

    At minimum he deserves:

    Claw back of the $1 million prize money.

    A handwritten apology to every single child deprived of schooling, physical and social activities.

    Restitution to the countless businesses he forced into bankruptcy.

    Prosecution for the denial of civil rights (to assemble) under the color of law.

    Massive payments to the scientists whose reputations he smeared. And a handwritten apology to every single one.

    And the most ignominious of all (at least for him): A public admission that there are millions of Americans who thoroughly detest him.

    If he can’t be put in the jail house, he should at least be put in the outhouse and the poor house.

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