I was surprised to hear on a flight this week that Lindsay Clancy’s defense counsel, Kevin Reddington, had unleashed a torrent of criticism of my commentary on the trial. In the interview with Fox News reporter Bryan Llenas, Reddington even suggested that we meet and debate these issues. I wanted to briefly respond to Reddington’s criticisms.
I actually praised Reddington’s handling through the end of the trial, until I felt he blew the summation to the jury. I was also critical of his motions to substitute a holdout juror with an alternate as running against the overwhelming authority in the area. However, what triggered Reddington was not my commentary on his trial performance, but what he did outside of the courthouse when he attacked the holdout juror. It was a repugnant and unprofessional venting by counsel who should be reaffirming the right of every juror to stand with their convictions against not just the other jurors but the world.
Reddington responded to my characterization of his conduct in front of the courthouse as “reprehensible” by calling my criticism reprehensible and adding, “maybe Jonathan Turley should check out the record before he makes his accusations.”
The “record” supporting this criticism is, in fact, his self-aggrandizing performance outside of the courthouse when he first said that the hung jury was “no time to gloat” and then gloated about how he “crushed” the prosecution in securing an 11-1 result. Yet, my objection was not to chest-thumping. It was a tad ungracious but unfortunately not entirely uncommon. Rather, it was the targeting of the holdout that left me floored as a fellow criminal defense lawyer.
Reddington had previously lit up the courtroom (which was being aired nationally) with his attacks on the juror. Reddington only knew that the other jurors were unhappy with the juror and said that he refused to follow the law. That is a common complaint against a holdout juror. This case turned on the credibility of the defendant and almost visceral reactions to a case where three innocent children were strangled by their mother, who planned the killings by sending her husband on errands.
I was mildly critical of the courtroom attacks, but I give leeway to a defense counsel who is fighting zealously for his client in seeking an acquittal. It was taking that rage outside the courthouse that crossed the line for me.
Reddington slammed into the juror who was already identified as one of just three males on the jury. He knew the juror’s name would likely be disclosed in time, given the anger over the trial’s outcome.
We clearly disagree on what lawyers are expected to do in high-profile cases. This is not what I teach my students about the professional standards that govern our conduct as officers of the court. Most of those expectations are not directly enforced by bar or court proceedings. Rather, much of what we do is the result of self-regulation; seeking to reinforce the noble ideals of our profession.
Instead of reminding people that our system is based on this core belief in the right of any citizen to stand alone against the majority, Reddington shredded the juror as presumptively anti-disability and akin to a racist on the jury. In front of the cameras, he declared, “I hope that guy can sleep well at night.”
Reddington knew that he was playing to the mob. District Attorney Tim Cruz had just been heckled on the steps by women who protested throughout the trial in favor of acquittal of Clancy, with one yelling how Cruz “only cares about the three children. What about the Mom?”
Frankly, in the aftermath of the trial, the two things that surprised me most were not the verdict, but the absence of an immediate apology from Reddington for his gratuitous attack on this juror and the failure of Judge William Sullivan to publicly rebuke him for his comments.
While our disagreement focuses on the attack on the juror, Reddington returned to his claim that what this juror did was itself unethical and contemptible. This juror was not convinced by his arguments, but Reddington suggests that no reasonable juror could have reached such a view despite many in this country who saw his client as a troubled murderer, but a murderer nonetheless.
There was a good-faith basis for taking that view even if most people would likely see Clancy as not responsible by reason of insanity. The standard is not whether Clancy was medically ill. She was clearly a deeply disturbed individual who failed to receive adequate mental health treatment. However, you can be suicidal and mentally ill and still appreciate the gravity of your actions.
The defense position was not unassailable. The long list of medications ignored the fact that only a couple of those prescriptions would likely contribute to psychosis and it was not clear how many pills Clancy actually took. She also had a fairly unusual case of postpartum psychosis in terms of the passage of time and said that she first heard a commanding male voice for the first time just before she killed her children.
Most importantly, Clancy took steps that showed planning and control of her actions, including researching how long it would take her misdirected husband to return. She spoke with him on the telephone while she was carrying out the plan and kept him in the dark about her intent to kill their children.
Would that erase reasonable doubt in the minds of most jurors? Probably not. As I stated before the trial, the chances of getting a unanimous verdict in this type of case are slim. This is a visceral case, which is why I was not surprised that the jury asked only to see a couple of pieces of evidence. The views of most people were baked into this trial before it began, and frankly, that may have been true for some of the jurors.
Reddington has every reason to exploit those feelings and play to doubts among the jurors. What he did not have license to do was target and ostracize the one holdout juror. Rather than taking the high ground, he immediately ran for the lowest common denominator among a nation of rage addicts.
Yes, that is indeed reprehensible. To paraphrase Mr. Reddington, it is the type of thing that would keep most of us up at night.
Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the New York Times best-selling author of “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.”
Suicidal empathy excuses child sacrifice.
Well said.
The Aztecs sacrificed children to the gods of rain. The neo-Aztecs sacrifice them to the gods of empathy with the killer.
Molock syndrome
The Holdout Juror’s “Disqualifying” Past
C’mon, guys. Where’s your skeptical eye? You should know by now that when a Leftist attacks the opposition, there’s a 99% chance the allegation(s) is false. And is, in fact, a smear job.
Such as this one: The holdout juror’s criminal past should have disqualified him from jury duty.
It would take a 10-year old 10 minutes of research to discover the truth: Even if the allegations about the juror’s past are accurate, not a single one of them are grounds for disqualification from jury duty in MA.
(Be like a conscientious 10-year old: Look it up yourself.)
It is the job of the defense counsel to vet Jurors for issues that might bias them against the defendant.
Fascinating how the MAGA mob has been celebrating the alleged moral beliefs of this fine upstanding juror who refused to convict Clancy, and now comes to his defense when it is revealed that he is a violent domestic abuser who assaults women.
I guess that is required in a cult whose leader is a serial abuser of women, a serial adulterer who has cheated on all three of his wives. When this is the moral standard, I guess a wife beater is just regarded as a normal person.
By the way, the Confidential Questionnaire in Massachusetts requires the disclosure of any arrests, charges or court orders issued against the potential juror, under penalty of perjury.
https://www.mass.gov/doc/confidential-juror-questionnaire/download
Failure to disclose this information is a criminal offense.
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIII/TitleII/Chapter234a/Section22
Although a history of arrest or charges is not automatically disqualifying, there is no doubt that he would have been challenged by both the prosecution and the defense if he had disclosed his past history. Obviously the juror in question failed to disclose this information, and is therefore guilty of perjury.
Even if he had voted to convict Clancy, the judge would have been forced to declare a mistrial because of the juror’s failure to disclose his history before the trial.
“Obviously the juror in question failed to disclose this information . . .”
Produce his completed questionnaire. (Good luck, since those questionnaires are *confidential*.)
More importantly, your claim was that his past “crimes” were disqualifying. That is obviously BS. Now, caught with your pants down, you shift to a new claim. And when you can’t prove that claim (as you can’t), you’ll shift to another new claim . . .
Intellectually dishonesty be thy name.
Why are you so committed to defending a wife beater?
Why are you so committed to defending a reprobate who is being evicted after failing to pay $12,000 in rent?
You MAGA mobsters held this guy up as some highly moral individual who refused to convict Clancy, but it is now obvious that he is a low-life scum bag who admitted he had reasonable doubt about Clancy’s guilt, but refused to follow the judge’s instructions to acquit if he had doubt. Obviously he was just being perverse and wanted to see Clancy convicted because he is a low-life abuser of women.
Why are so determined to defended a murderer who carefully planned all this, including what looks to be a fake suicide attempt, to get away with murdering her children. One, she ironically, hurt herself with.
She didn’t take her meds, yet kept detailed record of the side-effects she was not suffering from.
She lied to all the mental health practitioners.
She lied to her husband.
According to psychologist and expert testimony there was no loose thinking or any other pre-psychosis symptoms.
There was no claim of psychosis until the DEFENSE ATTORNEY brought it up as a defense.
There’s nothing there that was indicated one should exculpate her,yet you defend the murdering monster.
I’m not defending Clancy at all.
Simply pointing out your hypocrisy in holding up a worthless, degenerate wife-beater as the embodiment of moral certitude.
But I guess when Trump is your role model, a wife-beater is a moral leader.
^ Proof Trump haters have gone totally bonkers and have completely broken from reality ^
There it is folks… boom! Turley’s very own psychopath’s daily circle back proverbial reach around leading everything to Trump.
You’re a pathetic little boy. Go drink some antifreeze or something.
Oh I get it now. You have TDS. Might be a mild case as it wasn’t apparent immediately unless you were hiding it. There’s hope for a cure someday bucko. republicans are usually their OWN role model.
That suicide attempt was good enough to permanently paralyze her. Just a little more would have killed her.
The experts did not meet with her during the episode; you can pay anyone to claim anything as an expert witness.
There used to be expert witnesses about fire and soot who would say certain patterns were indicative of it being arson. That ended when a number of cases showed identical results and were known to not be arson. There used to be experts who could identify criminals by the shape of their heads or bumps on their skulls or by reading tea leaves.
Any time I hear “expert witness” I first think “paid liar.”
So, obviously the expert witnesses called by the prosecution were “paid liars” by your own definition.
The prosecution called 3 psychiatrists at the trial to rebut the defense claims of postpartum psychosis.
One of them, Dr. Kirk Heilbrun, testified that he was paid $54,000 for his “lies”.
Dr. Avram Mack refused to state how much he was paid when cross examined by the defense. He also gave answers about postpartum depression and psychosis that were not consistent with accepted definitions, and were contradicted by the other psychiatrists who testified for the prosecution. He tried to evade answering questions from the defense to the point that the judge frequently admonished him, and told him that he was required to answer the questions asked of him. After his first day of testimony, which was extremely contentious, he resigned from his position at Nemours Children’s Health. Nemours commented that his testimony at the trial was in his private capacity.
Nemours exact statement was as follows:
“Dr. Avram Mack is no longer employed by Nemours Children’s Health. His expert-witness testimony in the Clancy trial was related to his private forensic practice, which was always separate from his clinical work at Nemours.”
When further pressed about the circumstances of his resignation, Nemours refused to comment.
It is quite clear that Mack was fired from Nemours because of his contentious testimony that did not comport with currently accepted clinical practice. Nemours made it perfectly clear that they distanced themselves from Mack’s testimony, and wanted nothing to do with him. He was obviously given the choice of resigning or being fired.
So you may be right that “expert witnesses” are nothing more than “paid liars”
Can a man get pregnant?
Can a man menstruate?
We’ve all seen the leftist experts that say they can.
It even gets better when they try to use science and climate.
How would you know? You aren’t a man.
“Can a man get pregnant?”
🎱 “EXCLUSIVE: Midwifery Students Taught How to Care for Males Giving Birth”
https://reduxx.info/exclusive-midwifery-students-taught-how-to-care-for-males-giving-birth/
This demonstrates how crazy the anonymous commenters and the left are.
But have you heard of the Daubert case? The judge is the gatekeeper of scientific evidence presented to a jury. An expert witness cannot just make stuff up—their opinion must be based on general acceptance in the scientific community.
Non-lawyer Gigi refers to the Daubert case, which overruled Frye, as establishing the Frye standard. You can’t make up that level of stupidity.
They can have general acceptance in the scientific community if they have been making up stuff for a long enough time in an area that no one else has given close examination. This is how soot analysis and bump analysis and bite mark analysis went on for so long without any real scientific investigation behind it. Most often it is from law enforcement looking for support for some whack-job theory and finding a wack-job with a degree to say it for them.
Perhaps Sam is defending a wife beater because Sam is a wife beater. Likely a cop as they have the highest percentage of wife beating.
Perhaps you are going to bat for a child killer because you are a child killer.
I think the police should examine your basement floor for freshly poured concrete.
He was not on trial. Lindsay Clancy was. Are you assuming every other juror in the history of court trials has been a perfect person? Maybe if you could focus on facts instead of feelings you wouldn’t need to indulge in thousand-word rants in a comment section.
Wait a minute, am I missing something? The juror refused to acquit, the sole juror believed her guilty of premeditated first degree murder of three children. That’s the issue, he held out for a conviction as charged not an acquittal on an insanity plea.
The issue in this case is the possibility the juror should not have been on the jury to begin with, that he may have lied to ensure he could vote guilty prior to hearing the evidence.
The mistrial ended the case. So there is no case for there to be an issue in.
The key issue here is not the past of this holdout juror, but the willingness of so many women to make excuses for a woman who strangled her precious children.
Keith Harbaugh, perhaps it has failed your attention to wonder if what she went through is what a great number of women go through and recognized that they were so close to the precipice that anything small might have pushed them over the edge. Not that they willed themselves back, not that they had great strength to overcome it, just that the were at the point where a single pebble could start that avalanche.
I bet you think women deserve to be raped if they say or dress or walk in some certain way. That they invite carrying a child of a rapist to full term for not being pure and stopping the rape.
What does that have to do with anything? People experience stress. Murder is not socially or legally acceptable.
You are making me scared of women. Are they really capable of murder due to their biology? Are they ALL on this avalanche edge you describe? Women are victims of their biology, so It’s not their fault! Still, Don’t trust em, they’re dangerous! Is this where cannibalism come from?
How do we let these loose-cannons out in society?
I’m starting to like trans-men a lot more now even though I am afraid of clown makeup (NOT clowns! just their scary makeup).
NOW I know why the left is trying to get rid of women, they’re SCARY! Men are really the best women! Toxic femininity.
If he lied about it, it’s disqualification.
If he put it on the form, that he hates women enough to beat his own wife? Likely going to be dismissed by the defense.
Brilliant Buzz from the Bee:
White Women Argue Black Men Should Only Have Three-Fifths Of A Jury Vote
https://babylonbee.com/news/white-women-argue-black-men-should-only-have-three-fifths-of-a-jury-vote
“There should be some type of compromise in these situations,” the woman said on CBS Mornings. “We were all wanting to let her off the hook for strangling her kids, but this guy was just sitting there, totally hung up on the fact that this mother viciously murdered her own children. We think, moving forward, gentlemen like this should only count for three-fifths of a jury vote. That seems fair, all things considered.”
Babylonbee couldn’t find satire if they looked for it in the dictionary.
Oh but they do, and we now know, because of your post, that it triggers you. win-win.
How odd.
Another woman who supports killers.
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America, we are reaching rock-bottom with the modern Democratic Party.
The bad news is every time we reach rock bottom, we find another rock bottom underneath.
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul just handed a full pardon to a violent criminal alien whose case was headed for the Supreme Court, abruptly killing a major legal showdown that could have handed the federal government sweeping new authority to detain criminal migrants without bond hearings.
Um… hey stupid, why didn’t you cite the case or place a link. Rock bottom huh, you mean regarding smarts. Geezzz…
Estovir is referring to this case from August of last year
This is the New York Times coverage. Note the defendant served 14 years in prison.
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In early July, Gov. Kathy Hochul of New York pardoned an immigrant from Laos to stave off his deportation, but unlike dozens of pardons she has granted before, the governor did not publicize this action.
The man Ms. Hochul pardoned, Somchith Vatthanavong, 52, had been convicted of manslaughter as a teenager after he admitted to fatally shooting a man in 1988 during a confrontation at a Brooklyn pool hall, arguing that he had acted in self-defense.
Mr. Vatthanavong, who had legally entered the United States as a refugee when he was a child, fleeing the aftermath of the Vietnam War, served 14 years in prison before being released in 2003. He then built a life in New York, marrying and raising two children who are U.S. citizens.
But President Trump’s return to power heightened the likelihood that Mr. Vatthanavong would be deported because of his conviction 35 years earlier. So community groups and his wife and lawyers mounted a campaign to persuade the governor’s office — through petitions, meetings and phone calls — to pardon Mr. Vatthanavong, a move that could result in his deportation order being vacated.
Legal Cases In The News:
Trump Wouldn’t Let Coal Plant Retire
A federal appeals court on Friday struck down an order from the Trump administration keeping a Michigan coal plant open past its planned retirement.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit ruled that the Energy Department went beyond its authority when it ordered J.H. Campbell Generating Plant in West Olive to remain open through at least the end of the summer after it was slated to shut down in May 2025.
The 64-year-old coal plant was set to close as part of a transition to cleaner energy after Consumers Energy spent years preparing to retire it. Michigan regulators and the regional grid operator had approved the plan.
The Associated Press found that the cost to keep the plant in Michigan operating beyond its May 2025 retirement reached roughly $259 million so far, citing new financial filings.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6085207-court-strikes-michigan-coal-plant-order/
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Trump called a false emergency to keep this coal plant in service. But Michigan, Illinois and Minnesota sued to block said order. The court found there was no emergency. It was just Trump wanting to do a favor for coal interests at Michigan’s expense.
What expense? cheaper electricity? math is hard huh?
Maybe the lone juror experienced a psychotic break and is therefore not responsible for his actions. What do you do then reddington.
em, was the juror given a complex cocktail of psychoactive drugs to treat his position as a juror?
No reason for Democrat women to oppose abortion.
Now they can get pregnant, take maternity leave benefits, then kill the baby.
3 Billion years of evolution suggests that won’t happen. Women will die, and have died, protecting their babies. Those who would do so end that trait from the genetic line.
You want baby killers? Look to conservatives who back the annihilation in Gaza and Iran.
You are a baby killer and a moron. You hide behind an anonymous alias because you lack the brains to defend yourself.
The Iranians slaughtered 30,000 civilians in one or two days, and Hamas attacked Israel without cause. You are a coward who is afraid to defend yourself, so you run away and let others defend you. I can see the women and children in your family yelling, ‘Get away, you fool we are going to defend ourselves.
Cases In The News:
Trump’s DOJ Illegally Demanding Election Records
The Trump administration is ordering officials in more than two dozen states to preserve records from the 2024 election as part of a campaign to force states to turn over detailed voter records despite repeated court losses.
The Justice Department sent letters to 29 states and the District of Columbia instructing election officials not to destroy the records. Those are places the Trump administration has sued in a bid to gain access to voter registration information that contains addresses, dates of birth, driver’s license numbers and partial Social Security numbers.
The letters escalate a fight between the Trump administration over access to the sensitive voter information. Federal officials have said they need the voter data to ensure that states are complying with federal election laws related to maintaining voter registration lists, even though states already have detailed processes to do that.
https://apnews.com/article/midterm-elections-justice-department-secretaries-of-state-b92e31e436ccf31516e02f1ca9f69aea
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KEY PASSAGE FROM ABOVE:
“A campaign to force states to turn over detailed voter records despite repeated court losses”.
“Court losses” is linked to a June 24 story that opens with these 2 paragraphs:
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Michigan can keep a lid on the personal information of registered voters, a federal appeals court said Wednesday in the latest defeat for the Trump administration, which has been trying to get key details from dozens of states.
The release of birth dates, driver’s license numbers and partial Social Security numbers is not covered by a law cited by the U.S. Justice Department, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in a 2-1 opinion, upholding the decision of a federal judge in Lansing, Michigan.
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In other words, Trump’s DOJ is simply ignoring election laws and demanding information it isn’t entitled to.
^ Chinese propaganda slop ^
Estovir, WHY would the Chinese be discreding Donald Trump??? Trump has been both a Chinese and Russian asset. If Trump succeeds in starting an American Civil War, it will be a windfall to our enemies.
^ Delusional moron ^
Estovir, many of us have suspected that you’re a Russian bot.
^ Russian bot programmed to start every comment with “Estovir” ^
White liberal fragility!! A proud black man holds forth and speaks truth, and Massachusetts Klanswomen want to lynch him. I can’t breathe just thinking about the white matriarchy.
This is too rich, I’m sorry 😀
And don’t be lying to me about his domestic violence yada yada yada. She beat herself up and made him confess to it.
Brilliant. The people jumping through hoops to excusing domestic homicide are aghast at domestic violence. This is rich indeed.
Ya can’t make this stuff up, Kansas. Thank you, liberals, for being our muse 🙂
True or not. They are bringing up an event from 6 years ago – nothing to do with today.
So explain it.
You asked the question, explain it yourself or are you too stupid?
OT: In five minutes, one can relearn what the old Democrat Party stood for. Those who stand for today’s Democrat Party stand for totalitarianism and have unwittingly adopted lies from the new crazies in control.
https://www.fox4news.com/video/fmc-s18zk16684825qmm
Total MAGA propaganda— the theme that the MAGA marketing team came up with is: “crazy vs. common sense”. MSNOW played a montage of MAGA media talking heads and Republicans repeating this line.
There are several problems with this theory— the few extremists that MAGA media harp on do not speak for the Democratic Party, which has not adopted their position. Secondly, the “crazies” are clearly the Republicans. There are many examples—Ken Paxton, Brandon Herrera, Max Miller. MAGA devotees include NeoNazis. the Proud Boys, White Supremacists, the 3 percenters and other degenerates who trashed the Capitol and who Trump pardoned.
Then, there’s Trump, increasingly desperate, profiteering off of the presidency, awarding no bid contracts to companies that his worthless children have ownership interests in, trying to bribe voters by saying he could just hand out $5,000 checks from the US Treasury to every adult citizen if Republicans keep control of Congress, getting Republicans to agree to cheat to help him keep the power he lied to get, calling for a midterm rally after the primaries, solely because his mental illness requires cheering crowds and continuing to insist that the Lincoln Reflecting Pool was damaged by vandals. These are just a few examples.
What a stupid nutcase you are. You didn’t even look at the video or know what it was before providing your usual rant. This was one man speaking, RFK, stating what the Democratic Party stood for under JFK. You disavow everything the Democratic Party stood for and changed your beliefs because some crazies gained control over your namesake, Democrat. Get it clear. There is no longer a Democratic Party; rather, crazies are now running it into the ground and trying to take the nation with it. Listen to at least the first 3-5 minutes to see what you may have believed just a few years ago.
Ahhh, yes.
RFK Jr.
The well-known heroin and cocaine dealer and addict.
Isn’t he the one who collects and eats road kill?
Isn’t he the one whose brain was eaten by worms that he got from eating road kill?
Isn’t he the one who cut the head off a whale and tied it to the roof of his minivan for a 5 hour drive home?
Isn’t he the one who collects the penises of roadkill raccoons?
Isn’t he the one that has been completely and utterly disowned by his own family including some of his own children?
And yet, according to you, the Democrats are the weird and crazy ones.
Your own weird and crazy rants align perfectly with craziness of RFK Jr., and the MAGA cult as a whole, which explains why you see this nutcase as a perfectly normal, rational human being.
Birds of a feather…. as they say.
“The well-known heroin and cocaine dealer and addict.”
You are a fraud. RFK was never a dealer and is no longer an addict. But you are a liar and slanderer, proven many times on the blog. Are the rest of your comments valid? They are not even worth looking at.
But what are you? An anonymous creature without morals or the courage to stand behind your beliefs. Birds of a feather; one can say that about most Democrats who are on the same page as you, morally and intellectually lost.
Kennedy admitted to drug addiction. There is no such thing as a “former” drug addict. Once an addict, always an addict, although some can successfully control the addiction. Relapse is always one step away from sobriety.
Many of his contemporaries at Harvard have publicly stated that they bought drugs from him. He was a drug dealer.
I note that you do not comment on his weird fixations with roadkill, the worms that ate his brain, or his weird obsession with raccoon penises. Apparently you do not find this unusual. Perhaps you are also a connoisseur of delectable roadkill dishes, and also collect animal penises.
Raccoon and bears penises contain a bone within them. In the hill country these bones are collected and used as twizzle sticks and decanter sticks in drinking and distilling alcohol. If you were half as intelligent as you think you are, you would know these things. However, you are not and it truly shows here daily.
He’s not collecting the bones. He’s chewing the meat from them.
“Kennedy admitted to drug addiction. There is no such thing as a “former” drug addict. “
Kennedy admitted to being a drug addict, but not to being a drug dealer, and there is no evidence he was, proving you to be the liar and nutcase you have always been, Sigmund the Fraud. Yes, there are former drug addicts, but that doesn’t suit your need to slander.
Final Grade: Illogical Illiterate, Deluded Degenerate, and Malevolent Moron
Multiple people who were at Harvard with him are on record that they bought drugs from him.
I also note that you still have no comment about his unusual predilection for roadkill cuisine, or his obsession with collecting animal penises.
Perhaps you also collect animal penises and find this to be a completely normal hobby.
How many animal penises do you have in your collection?
Is this hobby some sort of effort to compensate for certain personal inadequacies that you have experienced in your life.
Barrack Obama
In his biography written by terrorist Bill Ayers, he admits to using and selling weed and a little blow. Larry Sinclair gave sworn testimony of providing Barrack substantial quantities of cocaine in exchange for sexual favors. This was all disclosed in advance of his Presidential bid. So by your own measure is Barry a deviant coke head? Multiple professors at Harvard and Columbia proclaimed they had never met him nor was he in their class.
So you agree that RFK Jr is a degenerate drug addict cast from the same mold as Obama.
I agree he is a typical Kennedy and an exemplary Democrat.
Is the claim that Larry Sinclair had sex with Barack Obama?
So these records you speak of are not just in the room with you now?
How do you feel about Hunter Biden? Now you have to throw hunter under the bus just to support your TDS.
S. Meyer,
Addiction is lifetime. The only no-longer-an-addict are dead.
It looks like RFK Jr. has shifted from heroin or cocaine to anabolic steroids, but he’s still someone who needs a drug to feel better about himself.
“Addiction is lifetime.”
Not really accurate. Kennedy is addiction-prone. RFK is no longer addicted.
You are an addict to whatever, and that comes from your personality disorder.
Hunter Biden
RFK,Jr is NUTS—his own cousin, Caroline Kennedy, JFK’s own daughter, says so. She wrote a letter to members of Congress, begging them not to confirm him. RFK, Jr, a former heroin addict who admitted to snorting cocaine off of a public toilet seat, eats road kill, attempts autopsies on animals, cuts the penises off of raccoons, to “study”, and spreads lies about vaccines being unsafe and causing autism, despite multiple scientific studies proving that to be untrue. He is responsible for one of the worst outbreaks of measles in this country in decades because of spreading lies and misinformation about the measles vaccine.
RFK, Jr does NOT speak for the Democratic Party either from the past or in the present. He is outrageously unqualified to be the head of Health or anything else.
“RFK,Jr is NUTS—his own cousin, Caroline Kennedy, JFK’s own daughter, says so.”
That is really dumb. Have you heard Caroline stand up for what her father believed? No. She has a name, but has none of the grit of her father. This is what you call evidence: complete garbage.
You have finally said something correct “RFK, Jr does NOT speak for the Democratic Party”; congratulations. He speaks, at least what he spoke in the video, for the party of JFK that Democrats of today have abandoned. He has actually done a good job to date, better than the ones who injected our children and pregnant women forcefully with an unapproved vaccine.
Meyer it seems to me that the Democratic Party of today is the photographic negative of what it was in the 1960s.
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You are so totally uninformed–what do you know about Caroline Kennedy’s “grit”? Let’s consider just the losses of loved ones in her family–before Caroline was born, Jackie gave birth to a stillborn full-term girl named “Arabella”, who is buried alongside her father at Arlington National Cemetery. Then came Caroline and John, Jr. Jackie then gave premature birth to Patrick, who died from hyaline lung disease at 3 days of age. Caroline lost her father to assassination, her mother to non-Hodgkins lymphoma, her brother John and his wife to a plane crash, and just last year, her own daughter, Tatiana, to a very rare form of blood cancer. Tatiana died after she underwent several grueling bone marrow transplants and extensive chemotherapy–none of which worked. Tatiana was diagnosed shortly after giving birth to her second child when her postpartum blood test results were off. Caroline is helping to raise Tatiana’s 2 children and has as a goal that they will know who their mother was, even though they would not remember her because she died when they were so young. Their father is a prominent physician. It takes a lot of “grit” to withstand this much loss.
Caroline was our Ambassador to Japan and Australia: “she was appointed U.S. Ambassador to Japan by President Barack Obama, serving from November 19, 2013, to January 18, 2017, becoming the first woman to hold that position. During her tenure, she played a key role in commemorating the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II, facilitating historic visits by President Obama to Hiroshima and Prime Minister Abe to Pearl Harbor. She also advanced the realignment of U.S. forces in Okinawa, promoted women’s empowerment, and increased student exchange programs.
In December 2021, President Joe Biden appointed Kennedy as U.S. Ambassador to Australia, and she officially presented her credentials on July 25, 2022. She served until November 28, 2024, under the Biden administration, engaging in diplomatic efforts on issues such as AUKUS, climate change, and cancer research initiatives. Her ambassadorship strengthened U.S.-Australia relations and maintained continuity in bilateral cooperation during a transition in U.S. leadership.
Beyond her ambassadorial roles, Kennedy has been deeply involved in public service and education. She served as Vice Chair of the Fund for Public Schools in New York City, raising over $280 million for school reform, and she is the Honorary President of the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation . She has also authored and edited multiple books on constitutional law, American history, and poetry, reflecting her commitment to civic engagement and cultural diplomacy. Caroline Kennedy’s diplomatic career is marked by her efforts to strengthen international alliances, promote educational and cultural exchange, and advocate for women’s empowerment, making her a prominent figure in U.S. foreign relations and public service.
Caroline helped create the “Profiles in Courage” award to recipients who share the values and courage of her father. JFK wrote the book “Profiles in Courage”. Here’s what Wikipedia says about the award:
“The Profiles in Courage Award was established in 1989 by members of the Kennedy family to honor President John F. Kennedy and celebrate the quality of political courage he admired most, as described in his 1957 Pulitzer Prize-winning book Profiles in Courage.. The award recognizes public officials at the federal, state, or local level who take principled stands in the face of opposition, often risking their careers or reputations for the greater good.
Selection and Presentation
Recipients are chosen by a distinguished bipartisan committee appointed by the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation, which includes members of the Kennedy family and other prominent Americans. The award is typically presented annually around JFK’s birthday, May 29, at a ceremony at the Kennedy Library in Boston, often by Caroline Kennedy or other family members. Winners receive a sterling silver lantern designed by Tiffany’s, inspired by the lanterns on the USS Constitution. The award emphasizes contemporary acts of political courage, highlighting officials who act in accordance with their conscience despite pressure from constituents, political parties, or public opinion. Nominations are open to the public, and the committee evaluates candidates based on the significance and impact of their courageous actions.
Are you saying she’s a narcissist too?
“You are so… actions.”
So?
Caroline Kennedy is Nuts! She speaks for the demons in her head.
Finally! A TDS democrat that can explain just what the democrats plan to do once in power! I’m listening, let’s have those details.
What exactly do the democrats ‘stand for’ and who is their leader?
Meyer, RFK Jr is a mensch. He’s still questioning authority, standing against the corporate task masters in big pharma, standing against corrupt and captured regulatory agencies, standing with working men and women, and promoting real democratic values (small d). The other party still hates him for that. What has changed is the identity of the parties. How interesting this political realignment has been.
Oldman, I never followed RFK. I wonder if any of his basic beliefs have changed at all and if he shows the living shift of the party. One can almost see a picture of him standing at the Democrat train as it moves away. I am sure he has some leftist ideas that I disagree with, but I never followed him closely enough to remember.
I like your characterization of him, ” RFK Jr is a mensch.”
The speech was amazing. The hate-filled detractors above will never listen to it. Their minds are closed and their souls are shriveled and ugly because all they know is hate. But RFK Jr is a breath of fresh air and doing real good with the increase in real foods over processed foods, the lowering of obesity rates, and the increases in longevity, all reversing 30-year trends in the other direction. His anecdotes were hilarious about being sued by the Dems to get his name off the ballot, then being sued again by them to keep his name on the ballot after he suspended his campaign and endorsed Trump, about his phone conversation with a very gracious Trump three hours after Trump was shot, compared to Harris refusing to even speak with him, and about the party of “no kings” anointing a queen that not a single voter voted for. Thank you for sharing, I have forwarded it to other people I know.
So, RFK Jr is now a mensch?
He has publicly stated that he believes the circumcision of infants is a major cause of autism. So obviously he believes that Jews are an autistic race.
He has publicly stated that COVID-19 was an engineered bioweapon designed to spare Jews. So obviously COVID was engineered by Jews.
A mensch , indeed !!!!
False. He never said that. He said, “The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.” He never said it was “designed” to do so. So you are a liar and a slanderer. Like the lowest life form on earth, you slander people anonymously.
He certainly implied that COVID was engineered to spare Jews.
However, he most definitely and explicitly claimed that the circumcision of infants is a leading cause of autism.
You don’t comment on that, so presumable you are OK with this obliviously antisemitic remark, which obviously means you are a hypocrite.
So you’re one of those lying liars where every word out of your mouth is a lie. If I were a lying liar I would not use a screen name like you do, pathetic coward.
He certainly implied that COVID was engineered to spare Jews
No, he didn’t, liar. He was even asked if that’s what he meant, and he said no, you liar.
However, he most definitely and explicitly claimed that the circumcision of infants is a leading cause of autism.
No, he didn’t, liar. He said it was linked to autism but he didn’t say it was the “leading cause” of autism, you liar.
presumable you are OK with this obliviously antisemitic remark, which obviously means you are a hypocrite.
No, it is not even close to antisemitic, you liar. He was making an assertion of fact, not saying anything bad about Jews, you liar. If he’s right, I want to know. Is he right about circumcision being linked to autism? That is the only topic. To read antisemitism into an assertion like that is so pathetically ridiculous, only a lying liar could do it.
Let’s assume every Jewish male baby is circumcised. That amounts to around 30,000 per year in the United States. There are about 1,400,000 circumcisions performed in the US each year. That means that for every Jewish circumcision, roughly 50 gentile circumcisions are performed in the US. So if you’re going to impute hatred or fear into RFK Jr’s remarks about circumcision (where none seems evident), then it was an anti-Gentile remark because Gentiles account for 98% of all circumcisions.
But you don’t care about these facts because they’re facts which you hate. You hate facts and love lies, because you are a lying liar. GFY
Sigmund the Fraud, you are distorting statements he made, so what you’re saying is false. Typical. You also don’t understand what the word “mensch” means. A mensch can make mistakes.
Final Grade: Deluded Degenerate, Malevolent Moron, and Sick Schmuck
Meyer – as I pointed out above, Sigmund the Fraud is a lying liar who only lies and never tells the truth. He hates facts and he loves lies. He lives by lies. He is an anonymous slanderer, the lowest lifeform on earth.
Meyer.
So you admit you never followed RFK, and don’t know much about his views and beliefs.
And yet you have strong opinions about him, and are willing to defend him in the absence of knowledge about him.
Pretty much sums up Trump and the MAGA cult.
Strong opinions about matters of which you have no knowledge or understanding.
YOU have strong all-consuming opinions, Culty McCultface.
Donate your brain to the TDS research foundation.
“And yet you have strong opinions about him, and are willing to defend him”
This is the Sigmund the Fraud approach: twist words and thoughts, then lie and recreate an image to suit present needs. Is this how you pleasure yourself?
I know enough about the truth to recognize the lies about RFK, corrected by Oldman. You have nothing; just an anonymous shell that knows nothing.
Final Grade: Malevolent Moron, and Sick Schmuck, and Pathetic Parasite
You don’t know anything about brain worm infested former heroin addict RFK Jr. See above post. Trump nominated him because he wants to capture the cachet of the Kennedy era, (which is why Trump wants his name on the JFK Center), but the rest of the Kennedys want nothing to do with him because he is nuts, knows nothing about science, spreads lies about vaccines and is grossly incompetent to lead a public health agency that is supposed to be dedicated to protecting the health of the American people. He has no background in science, medicine or public health. He has half- baked stupid ideas about medical science that he has no background in. People are literally getting sick and dying because of him. He has cut funding for cancer research and other scientific studies.
WHAT “corrupt government agencies” are you talking about and where is the proof?
“Trump nominated him because he wants to capture the cachet of the Kennedy era,”
You obviously don’t realize that Trump was a Democrat. He chose when and where he could run for President. As President, he is a counter-revolutionary trying to reverse the autocratic and dangerous Democrat Party now run by crazies, back in the direction of JFK’s Democratic Party.
It’s hard to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person, but I’ll try with a few examples. You speak of “autocratic” presidents? Are you joking? What former president ever helped himself to the US Treasury by handing out checks to children and putting his name on the checks? What former president enacted tariffs to punish foreign countries when he couldn’t bully them after the SCOTUS struck down the tariffs?
What president ever tore down part of the White House to build a vanity ballroom and lied about the cost being paid by donors, or put his name on the JFK Center? What president ever picked fights with Canada, one of our closest allies, announced he was re-naming the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario? What president ever held a rally after the primaries and told his supporters to “cheat like hell”, or promised $5,000 checks to all adult citizens if Republicans keep control of Congress? Only Congress can decide how our tax dollars are spent. How about building a vanity arch to honor himself, blocking the view of Arlington National Cemetery, prancing around the FIFA awards ceremony and accepting expensive gifts and investments in his worthless crypto from foreign investors?
What would you say if President Obama had tried any of these things?
“It’s hard to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person”
Do you think that is a quip that makes you look smart? No. It leaves you looking like the fool you are who can’t even be original; you copy from one post to the next, adopting the screams of the crazies.
“What former president ever helped himself to the US Treasury by handing out checks to children and putting his name on the checks? “
What checks are you talking about? Have any been released? I hope Trump does, since someone has to sign their name. George Washington did to Bonds and notes that had dollar values.
You continue with your usual rant of things that have little meaning while forgetting about a President who broke the law and opened the Southern Border to illegal immigrants.
Why don’t you listen to RFK’s speech and see how far the Democrats have moved from JFK’s Democrat Party, and see that many of the things you complain about are Trump moving the country back to JFK’s major positions.
Now you can revert to an earlier crazy time by burning your bra while wearing it.
Why don’t you listen to RFK’s speech
Gigi will not listen to the speech. Her mind is closed. If Trump cured cancer she’d hate him for it. The only thing she knows how to say is MAGA MAGA MAGA blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Gigi is a tortured soul whose punishment is having to live life as herself. I would not wish that on anyone.
Why do you call people whose opinions you don’t like “Gigi” or “Estovir”?
Pay attention! We don’t have time to explain every little thing to you.
Just like Trump, you MAGAs cannot respond to truthful, factual information about Trump, his incompetence and corruption without resorting to personal attacks. I understand on one level–there’s just so much to deal with. Every single day, there’s a new outrage, some new scandal, another country or world leader or former ally he has insulted–to the point of being almost overwhelming.
The checks I spoke of were: the $2,000 checks from our Treasury in his first administration–I recall this well because I crossed off his name before I cashed the check. Money in the US Treasury belongs to the American people–not Trump. Only Congress can decide how our money is spent. That’s part of the outrageousness of Trump declaring at Trumpapalloza that”he” was going to gift every adult citizen $5,000 from our own money–he takes for granted that Republicans won’t stand up for their constituents. The money would go to billionaires, millionaires–everyone. In addition to being outright bribery, that scheme would add $1.3 Trillion to our national debt.
Then, there are the “Trump Accounts” for children that MAGA is paying to run on television to try to mitigate all of the damage Trump has done and is continuing to do to our economy and standing in the world. Of course, when considering Trump and his concern for children, you have to ignore the hundreds of thousands of African children who have died of starvation because Trump cut off USAID funds. You also have to overlook the Palestinian children who have died or whose growth and mental development have been permanently stunted because of starvation because Trump won’t stand up to Netanyahu. There was recently an outbreak of Ebola that killed several thousands in Africa because the USAID–funded program to monitor for such outbreaks and to curtail them before they became an epidemic shut down after Trump took away the funding. Yeah, Trump is really, really dedicated to the welfare of children all right.
The Border was never “open”–Biden chose not to incarcerate migrants seeking asylum, which they have every right to do under our law. Who do you think does the housekeeping in hotels, landscaping, nonunion construction, planting and harvesting and work in restaurant kitchens? What will happen to the cost of food and hospitality if all of these people are deported, and how would that make America a better place to live? And, BTW, WHEN is Mexico going to pay to build the “big, beautiful wall”? I’m still waiting. Or, possibly, was Trump lying?
“I crossed off his name before I cashed the check”
Did that make you feel better? Does your therapist see this as progress?
Have you tried sucking your thumb?
Gigi/ Natasha, you MAGA haters, can’t respond except with lies, meaningless rants, and attempted assassinations. I haven’t even mentioned your rioting and killing in the streets, where ANTIFA can be an example. You guys are so full of hate you can’t think straight and cannot debate the facts in depth; multiple run-on ideas are all you have.
“The checks I spoke of were: the $2,000 checks from our Treasury in his first administration–I recall this well because I crossed off his name before I cashed the check.”
You are illiterate and vague. Check the date of the check and what it was provided for, unless it was one of your hallucinations. That $2,000 check you say you received was probably a bill pushed by the Democrat House that failed to pass, showing you to be a liar among many other awful things. There was a lot of money thrown around during COVID times, most of it by Democrats and Biden.
Is your mind so addled with envy and getting even that you can’t think straight? All you do is provide short attacks that have no content or context, as if you were a crazy woman who needs medication to control herself.
Questions questions anon. What JT blog poster has TDS?
S. Meyer, these guys have lost to Trump so many times, it’s apparent they still have no idea who Donald J. Trump is, it’s baffling. When he trolls them, they are like his angry puppets.
“Kennedys want nothing to do with him ”
So they are all petty unforgiving people who can’t stand a family member who disagrees with them? If you say so…
That’s the democrats ‘royalty’ you’re talking about!
RFK is our version of big tent and much better than the left’s big circus tent: All theater, clowns, wild animals & poop everywhere, illusions, circus freaks, bearded women…