It appears that Hasan Piker is not alone in saying that the United States deserved the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack. As the New York Post reported, a new poll shows that one in five college students say the U.S. deserved the attack that killed nearly 3000 fellow Americans. Forty-two percent said they would prefer to live under socialism, while only 28 percent favor capitalism.
Roughly half of the students — 47 percent — agreed with this extraordinary statement, “While socialist countries like Cuba and the Soviet Union have not been perfect, they offer a better economic model than capitalist countries like the United States.”
These students have been educated in an ideological echo chamber of higher education where conservative and libertarian professors have been gradually eliminated from faculties. They have been taught by faculty who run from the left to the far left. This is the entirety of what they know of socialism. They have no memory or experience with the collapse of such systems in the last century. They hear figures such as Zohran Mamdani offering the “warmth of collectivism” and believe that socialism offers free stuff that the wealthy will have to pay for.
They see Piker prancing around in his Mao suit and have no association with a Cultural Revolution that killed millions.
In “Rage and the Republic, I discuss how this year we are celebrating not just our 250th anniversary as a Republic but the 250th anniversary of Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations. The book was not a great success in Great Britain. In addition to its foundational support for capitalism, it challenged the mercantilist policies of the British Empire and supported the claims of the colonies in seeking greater economic freedoms.
Smith, however, was immediately embraced by the founders, who saw his work as the perfect economic theory to advance their political theory. Ours was the first Enlightenment Revolution based on a belief in natural rights that came from God, not governments.
Yet, the founders knew that true individual liberty could not be achieved without economic freedom. Smith’s idea of the “invisible hand” offered a model of individual economic freedom in which the individual tastes and choices of citizens drove whole economies.
The combination would prove transformative, as the U.S. became not only the world’s oldest large-scale democracy but also history’s greatest economy. We will need that combination in the years to come to maintain what I call a “liberty-enhancing economy.”
These students have little exposure to the economic concepts that made this Republic the most prosperous in history. More people have been raised out of poverty by capitalism than socialism.
However, socialists like Mamdani can promise free stuff, and these students believe that they are entitled to it.
When socialist François Mitterrand came to power in France in 1981, promising a “rupture with capitalism,” he quickly destroyed the country’s economy. However, he continued to dazzle French citizens with promises of free money, even appointing Andre Henry as the Minister of Free Time to assist citizens in their new socialist leisure.
Notably, this poll shows lower support than the Democratic Party as a whole. Sixty-five percent of Democratic voters have a favorable view of socialism. An even greater percentage of young Britons want to live under socialism, and 72 percent favor nationalization of industries.
The poll again shows that we must first address the ideological echo chamber of higher education if we want to protect this unique Republic.
As I have previously written, parents and students who value free speech must increasingly look to public universities where faculty are subject to constitutional guarantees. Except for outliers like the University of Chicago and other private universities that hold the line on free speech, orthodoxy at private universities remains a barrier for many conservative and independent thinkers.
Public universities may be the final line of defense for free-speech advocates. However, even those universities show the same hiring bias. The difference is that they are more sensitive to public pressure to restore balance.
Legislatures will need to play a more active role in addressing the exclusion of both faculty candidates and speakers on public campuses. Too many faculty members continue to treat citizens like a captive audience. They expect to continue funding their departments while excluding conservative or dissenting views held by many, if not most, citizens in a given state.
If faculty members want to maintain echo chambers for their own viewpoints, they should seek private donors to sustain such intolerance and orthodoxy.
Legislatures can demand evidence that schools are maintaining an intellectually diverse faculty in determining the level of continued support from citizens.
When some of us have argued for such campaigns, academics hypocritically claim that we are calling for political litmus tests or hiring based on political parties. It is an absurd argument that I have previously addressed, including in The Indispensable Right.
The call is for donors and legislators to withhold funding until they see real reforms, including greater diversity on faculties. They are not directing the hiring, but looking at the results. The faculty members objecting to such calls have watched passively (or actively supported) the purging of conservative or libertarian faculty from universities and colleges.
This poll is disturbing, but not surprising. The greatest trick ever played by the activists in academia was to indoctrinate, rather than educate, young people while getting their parents to pay for it.
Ah the blissful stupidity of youth! To be ignorant of facts and history combined with intolerance for ideas not congruent with your own (or your cult) is the path to Communist (oops, I mean Socialist because the incestuous twins are so different) Nirvana for the “MY 20-something years of lived experience tells me everything” dorks!!!
Not only are youth stupid, so are geriatrics at a far higher rate.
And geriatrics are not stupid? You just proved it.
We interrupt this programming to advise you that X/George/Anonymous got beaten down quite a bit last night and this morning and can currently be found in the Word AI infirmary. He be back. later.
LOL!!! ^^^^this guy^^^
Yeah George, your fat a$$ is really sore huh? LOL!!!
X-yeah, truth hurts, doesn’t it.
Did they give you some Tylenol, oh I forgot, you”re on Midol.
Back when 9/11 occurred, I said it was the buzzards coming home to roost. It occurred because of constant US meddling in the Middle East.
I’ll bet you would have loved crashing your Cessna into the Towers eh?
Let’s hope you have learned some things in the past 25 years and are not still a myopic dumbass.
And here I thought it happened because Larry Silverstein didn’t want to pay to remediate and remodel the twin towers on his dime and his buddies needed an excuse to attack the ME some more.
The ‘constant medding’ is in your imagination and nowhere else and it did not come about for that reason.
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Bin Laden was a madcap revanchist with his own motivations. Objection one was that American troops were in Saudi Arabia. Between 1990 and 2002 there was an American garrison in Saudi Arabia at the invitation of that country’s government. The manpower there averaged 6,200 over those years (in a country with a seven-digit population of expatriates). Another objection was that Israel exists. So lets run planes into the World Trade Center. Makes perfect sense.
Besides providing military aid to Egypt and Israel, how did the US “meddle” in the US? When we helped stop Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait? Encouraged the Shah to recall PM Mossadegh?
How did the US meddle on the Misdle East?
Constant? You mean like since the shores of Tripoli? Maybe later like since the muslim brotherhood was founded on a strawman in the 30s? Maybe further back, like Spain since the 8th century?
Go be a cuck somewhere else, loser.
Try again, no, that isn’t the reason, Sam
Those in the 20% should find another country in which to live – whether socialist or communist. Then … after 5 or 10 years, return to the USA (which will have been better without them) and see how the USA compares with the country they thought would be a better place to live. (Who wants to bet they won’t put up with 5 or 10 years living elsewhere? and discover that they were gullible youngsters?)
Those in the 20% should find another country in which to live… why should they, its not your country. If you don’t like what’s happening, suicide is an option.
That’s ONE option, there are plenty others. The US would not be worse off w/o those 20%, in fact it is in the nation’s best interest, a compelling interest, to rid itself of them, plus islamists, and illegals, and you. Suck on that.
Get rid of… ovens, hangings, gassings, firing squads. Its all been tried. Didn’t work.
Your death cult programming has overcome you. I was suggesting they leave or are deported.
Man, you death cultists don’t mess around. I was suggesting deporting them to the places in the world where their ideologies thrive.
Man, you death cultists don’t mess around. I was suggesting deporting them to the places in the world where their ideologies thrive.
Mass murder is a good option. Line em up …
Yes it is my country.
If our capitalist economic system were at the top of its game, it would pay much more attention to children –specifically developing the skills, dispositions and bank account giving an 18-year-old the tools to start out thriving as a capitalist actor. That means starting early — giving 5-year-olds responsibilities and rewarding them for good work. As the child grows, the mixture of work and play should be adjusted to continue challenging responsibility-taking, and rewarding it with increasing freedom and autonomy.
The mistake we’ve been making since Child Labor Laws were enacted (for good reason, as too many adults took unfair advantage of children). We went too far in not allowing under 18s to sign contracts, and under-16s to work part-time as W2s. We pampered children through their teens, and then expected them to be become self-sufficient at age 18 like throwing a switch.
Getting young Americans to prefer capitalism over socialism is a realistic goal, but only if we take serious the need for a long, slow inculcation that rewards work and responsibility-taking incrementally. A capitalist must be developed. That mindset will make all the difference.
A measure of our economic system is how well it is meeting the life goals of people — at every stage of life, not just later in life.
Talk to 18-25 year-olds. Ask them about how well the economic system is able to meet their life pathneeds. If you’re listening, you’ll hear bitter frustration over deferred goals, like bonding with a partner and nest-building, like employment that offers rewards for long-term commitment, like starting out without crushing debt.
Choosing between the status quo vs. socialism is a false choice. Improved capitalism is going to always beat both the status quo and socialism. It just take sound analysis and creative thinking. For instance, 1-year mandatory national service after high school could work to give every young adult a meaningful role, bankrolling a pot of saved income. Why do ideas like this get pushed to the sideline, and people just run to their ideological corners?
Actually, it would be a boondoggle and would waste everyone’s time.
I doubt that Prof. Turley’s solution will meet the need. I doubt that our own constitutional republic will—or even can—cope effectively with this problem. A massive purge of at least 75% of the leftists in each college and university, public and private, seems called for—a purge so ruthless and pervasive that the left’s characterization of the McCarthy “era” and the Hollywood blacklists would seem tame. The Zohran Mamdanis and the Left in educaction must be crushed. But in doing so, many will argue that constitutional rights have been trampled upon. And they would be right. But that theory of government and constitutional right depends on something closer to what John Jay described in Federalist #2 as “…one united people—a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs…”. I would not be as restrictive as Mr. Jay in my definition of “a united people”— speaking the same language and attached to the same principles of government would do since I am more of a Madisonian in the spirit of Federalist #10—but there are limits. But even by that more encompassing definition, the Leftists in education, government, and now in public office do not even come close. Yet, they have little to fear. A pruge will not happen and these “students,” and the country as a whole, will need to learn from experience. . And I fear that those who dicipline their actions with concepts of “academic freedom” and even the Bill of Rights will be no match for the Left once those indoctrinated whelps vote en mass.
Yes. And I fear you are correct. lt has always struck me as a bit odd that the American educational system spends so little time on teaching its students at almost any level about the principles and values of free market economics, historically considered. As one of the world’s most prosperous economies, one might think that we would want our kids to learn about the outsized benefits of our economic order, if for no other reason than to preserve its many benefits. But no. Instead, the conventional ignorance, widespread in our institutions of higher education, holds that it is capitalism that is the villain. Part of this insanity derives from deep historical ignorance. As some will recall, we fought an ideological “cold war” with the Soviets and their allies in the second half of the last century. Free markets and free peoples on one side; socialist authoritarians and their kleptocratic pals on the other. We won; they lost. It really was no contest. And yet . . . the socialist dream marches on. The ideal, of course, is always more attractive than reality–until the “ideal” becomes the reality. And at that point, the dream becomes something of a nightmare. Cf., Cuba, 1959 to present.
Economics is a subject too challenging for a secondary school curriculum.
Is that why you’re so dumb?
‘They have been taught by faculty who run from the left to the far left. This is the entirety of what they know of socialism. They have no memory or experience with the collapse of such systems in the last century. They hear figures such as Zohran Mamdani offering the “warmth of collectivism” and believe that socialism offers free stuff that the wealthy will have to pay for.’
Shoot, they aren’t old enough to even remember starving people in Venezuela eating zoo animals in the Venezuelan ‘warmth of collectivism’, nor do they have a clue what systems like Islam actually entail.
These fools really do believe the last – wealth will be seized and the government will buy them all the same stuff their parents did – homes, designer clothes, phones, toys. We are in big, big trouble in another 10-15 years. There is no longer any semblance of a connection to reality or empathy remaining in the most indoctrinated, and that number only grows.
SADLY, OUR COUNTRY HAS GONE TO HELL… AND THERE AREN’T ENOUGH OF US TO STOP THE CONTINUED DISINTERGRATIONS.
I PRAY FOR THOSE OF US WHO REFUSE TO GIVE IN.
THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO MR. TURLEY
Give in? To what exactly? And what does Turley actually do?
Anon sure is DUMB!!
I have seen him mowing yards in the neighborhood. He is saving for that new Michael Kors handbag that he has always wanted.
I saw Pearl Harbor with Ben Afflek and now I feel like I am a war veteran. I applied for VA benefits.
LAME
I saw Pearl Harbor with Ben Afflek and felt like a POW.
Many of the people you mock are dead.
There are no VA benefits for the ones who died.
Yes, nationalization of industries, like how the U.S. manages and runs air traffic control.
FAA is a government agency, created by the US Gov., so it’s not nationalized. Anyone ever call you stuopid?
Air traffic control is a public safety function. It has been publicly operated since 1939. Supposedly, there are private air traffic control systems. Not sure how they stack up. We don’t have many large scale crashes anymore. One of the few since 2002 was near Washington National, when an army helicopter crashed into a commercial airliner attempting to land. There should be an NTSB report out by now. The preliminary reports indicated that the helicopter pilot’s errors were the consequential cause.
Nothing you wrote is a fact. BS’er.
There were six facts in my comment, all of them true.
Most facts are.
Smart commenters use provable facts, aka sources as proof. You didn’t. So you’re stupid then.
Airports, including air traffic control, are “general Welfare” or basic infrastructure and may be taxed for by Congress and funded.
most of the rest of the world does not have public ATC systems. Works fine.
This is a completely worthless poll, and Turley is simply rage baiting the MAGA mob.
The poll was NOT a random sample. It was a voluntary online survey. Anyone, anywhere in the world was free to participate. There is absolutely no way to verify that the respondents were actually students or even in the United States.
You will note that the poll does not cite a margin of error or any statistical analysis, because that is impossible to calculate in these types of worthless online surveys.
You just have to look at the other questions to realize that the poll is completely bogus.
2% said they have never heard of the United States.
10.2 % said they have never heard of Iran
8.5% said they have never heard of Israel
11.4% said they have never heard of Cuba
7.9% said they have never heard of Palestine.
6.6% said they have never heard of China
6.2% said they have never heard of Russia
It is quite obvious that this is not in any way a legitimate poll of verified students.
Your comment is “completely worthless”. At least Turley uses facts. You?
There are no verifiable facts anywhere in this completely bogus online survey.
There is no way to even verify that the respondents were in the US , let alone actual students. Just look at the answers about whether they have heard of specific countries. It is obvious that the respondents are just a mixture of pranksters and trolls out to create a false result.
No verifiable facts? Can you verify that for us please?
In there own disclosure the Buckley Institute admits that the the respondents were a self-selected group of people who opted-in to an online survey. It was not a sample of known students randomly selected by the pollsters. There is no way to verify that any of the respondents were actually students or even in the United States.
Just look at the answers where respondents said they have never heard of major countries.
2% of the supposed American students at American colleges claim to have never heard of the United States.
Completely bogus.
“randomly selected by the pollsters.”
h a ha hah ah hah ahah hah. idiot.
you are responding to anonymous at 11:03 ^^ That is actually from X, who is too afraid of the feedback if he signed in.
Nope.
I have news for you. Seldom do these days consist of probability samples. They take convenience samples and try to massage them to get a valid results. Some pollster’s procedures are betting than others.
The survey results carry a margin of error of 3.5 percentage points. I haven’t put a lot of faith in polls since they predicted a Hillary Clinton win. 😏
Anonymous troll just keeps putting his idioc two cents worth in on this site. 🙄
So says scottwc427 the idiotic troll.
Good one, Anonymous!
Good one, Anonymous!
Good one, Anonymous!
Good one, Anonymous!!
I rest my case. 🤣
Sorry, should be spelled idiotic. We should be able to edit comments.
You just proved that you’re an IDIOT.
The Know-Nothing’s Mantra:
To know a lot isn’t worth getting
It’s just too damn upsetting
Give me it simple
Like popping a pimple
A thing that’s worth forgetting
I prefer dramatic and fake
The fewer neurons to bake
There’s no need to question
It spoils my digestion
Any mental shortcut I’ll take.
When a topic starts to worsen
I shift my dislike to the person
That way I control
The way that things roll
‘Specially when I’m conversin’.
Reading a paragraph?…too tough
The first sentence is simply enough
Before going far
It says who you are
Who needs all that “nuance” stuff?
The Simpsons is my favorite show
The way Bart just goes with the flow
He seems to be happy
His life may be crappy
But better than those “in the know”
I don’t step into another one’s shoes
I get to believe what I choose
With inputs I filter
My self-image won’t wilter
How can I possibly lose?
“These students have little exposure to the economic concepts that made this Republic the most prosperous in history.” (JT)
That is a tragically true. I regularly asked ugrad econ majors what they knew about the economic ideas of, for example, Smith, Bastiat, Say, Hazlitt. The response was always the same: a blank stare.
That ignorance results in a poll that amounts to: We want free stuff. Capitalism won’t give us free stuff, so we hate it. And we love anyone (including terrorists) who also hates capitalism.
Sam, LOL! This poll is like those you see in “Teen Magazine”.
It’s not a serious poll.
Still reading Teen Magazine eh George? Still got pedophilic tendencies eh? How many years is that now? Nice reveal, thanks.
Hey Sam, you are right. And may I add, I just looked at Lin’s takedown of X earlier this morning, which was ended with this, “….it is unfortunate that those whose lack of self-confidence and a sense of inferiority becomes so severe that they spend their days scanning and trolling John Say and others in some sort of belief that God appointed them Superintendent(s) of Corrections. Using your word, it’s quite hilarious.”
No wonder X hates you guys.
X aka George hates himself.
Yes. L’s comment was very perceptive. Thanks for mentioning it.
They are instructed in macroeconomics and microeconomics with standard textbooks which take advantage of the body of economic thought developed to date. They would know discrete names if they studied the history of economic thought or the specific work had to be studied in a particular department of economics. For example, Harold Hotelling would commonly be a familiar name to those who studied resource economics.
Critical thinking is not taught in the schools. It would be contrary to the collective warmth that the unions are based on and striving for the rest of the country. When individuals are kept in a comfortable position, they do not need to figure out how they will get the next meal or place to sleep. When an individual has to deal with the reality of survival, then critical thinking comes into play. Hopefully, as these college kids merge into the real world, they will realize the failures of the teachers and loud mouths and quickly learn to think critically.
Questions please: Critical thinking is not taught in the schools. Prove it. Lots of schools in the USA.
As evidenced by the content of the replies on the blog.
As you just proved.
Critical thinking could be taught in homes by parents, the same as how to tie shoes and brush teeth and have manners and washing themselves and their clothes.
We might start with basic skills.
Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it. You have to be taught history and then retaught it as you grow and your experiences expand. Teaching alone is not enough but retention long term is even more important. In medicine and law we have requirements for continuing education in order to stay abreast of advances but it serves to remind us that science or law which is older but retains validity is also retaught.
There seems to be little actual thinking and seeking of information outside one’s own silo. Other specialties or disciplines are packed with knowledge that can be explored so easily in our electronic world and can apply to your own discipline if you simply study and look. There seems to be real reluctance to actually look afield and outside the didactic of the classroom to the freer flow of thought and information that is not constrained by the classroom or the teacher.
It seems that with all the information available now, views on some campuses seem so narrow. There seems to be a dearth of real curiosity. Which is really unfortunate for our younger people and maybe our nation. Older people are not exempt from this failing either.
seeking of information outside one’s own silo? And that’s sounds strangely similar to MAGAots. Doesn’t it?
Why are you prattling about “remembering the past”?
Supposedly, none of the respondents were even alive in 2001. How can they “remember something that happened before they were born?
And I say “supposedly” because the so-called poll was nothing more than an online opt-in survey, NOT a random sample poll. We can’t even be sure that the respondents were actually students, let alone old enough to “remember” 9/11.
Some people believe man never landed on the moon. Some believed the world is flat. Some believe climate change will cause the world to end in a few years. Some believe Americans got what they deserved when the World Trade Center came down, and Jews got what they deserved on October 7th. Some believe the seventy or eighty million Americans who voted for President Trump are “deplorable”. Some believe “above us only sky”. Some believed Thomas Malthus. Some believed Galileo was a heretic. Some believed the “axiomatic” Law Of Conservation Of Energy and the “axiomatic” Law Of Conservation Of Mass. Some believed that Obama would keep his promise “to regain America’s moral stature in the world” by closing Guantanamo.
And so it goes.
Be not afraid. Truth is forever.
Truth is forever. Sounds like a Hallmark card. I’m afraid you’re a zombie.
What’s in your head, zombie!
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy!
Anonymous,
Be not afraid.
Steve,
Be not stupid.
It’s funny how so many here don’t realize how out of context their views are compared to those students. Really. Think about it for a second.
None of the 803 undergraduate respondents were alive on September 11, 2001. Polling analysts note that for Gen Z students who learned about 9/11 strictly through history textbooks alongside the subsequent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the word “deserved” is often interpreted through the lens of blowback from U.S. foreign intervention rather than celebrating the murder of civilians. It means they also have the benefit of knowing all the reasons including our dirty history of intervening in other countries. After all we did make a mess in the Middle East and continue to do so. THEY understand that. We still see history as if it happened yesterday and literally watched those planes hit the towers in real time. Us older folks are still stuck in the ignorant perspectives of the late 90’s and early 2000’s. Some have learned. Others (hint-hint) like in a blog, have not. Is there a saying about those who don’t learn are doomed to…repeat history….right?
Those students are not being “indoctrinated” they learned with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight and a fuller historical context. Not just ‘in-the-moment’ manner we did. What they learn is not through “indoctrination” it’s through a wider perspective. That’s a good thing.
I wasn’t alive on December 7, 1941 but I’m pretty sure that Pearl Harbor was a bad thing.
Well said. I congratulate your AI machine George.
As a domestically born eighty-two year old lay American male I wouldn’t go so far as to say America “deserved” 9/11 but I am willing to state with complete confidence that extremist capitalism precipitated it. It was never a ‘terrorist’ attack but rather an act of retaliation by a group of Middle East guerrilla warriors attacking the home bases of the US money, power and war mongers as hard as they could at the time. A terrorist attack would strike at the soul of America (e.g., the Statue of Liberty, the Empire State Building and/or a fully packed Super Bowl football game stadium) not just economic and military symbols. The professor appears to ignore how much and many times our ‘government of the rich, by the rich and for the rich’ has unconstitutionally intervened in the internal affairs of those nations, mostly exploiting them for their oil early-on as I recall, setting a precedent that Trump has equally stupidly followed in Venezuela with the ‘effect’ of his ’cause’ yet to be known. 9/11 was just a more tragic way that the insanely greedy rich (who never pay their fair share of taxes for all of the harm they do) can harm us all, with the engineered collapse of the economy in 2008 and the phony “Covid-19 pandemic” being two less-tragic others. CGS
I am willing to state with complete confidence that extremist capitalism precipitated it
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Your self confidence is unwarranted and your explanation nonsense.
x @ November 14, 2026 at 10:31 AM: in my near poverty working-class youth with no TV early-on, no cell phone and no Internet, I played a lot of “connect- the-dots” to pass the time. As a well compensated primarily diagnostic industrial electrician spanning some three decades of learning and employing troubleshooting techniques to breakdowns on systems using relay logic and manual starters to PLCs and stepper motors, I doubt you have the ‘connect-the-dot’ capabilities I still have. In many instances higher education is no substitute for greater experience and/or higher intelligence. CGS
Shaver, so you were an apprentice. You have a higher education in your field. What’s not to doubt?
Others choose a wider-spanning education and end up well rounded as you, no?
I agree that sometimes education is no substitute for experience. But, education also exposes one to ideas and perspectives that are indeed valuable in addition to experience.
you have neither.
X @ November 14, 2026 at 11:20 AM: non-union early-on, not a formal apprenticeship and you may be confusing education with dogma. In 1973 a Ph.D. community college Business Math instructor convinced me with his ‘attitude’ to ‘drop-out’ about two semesters shy of an AA in Business Administration, to not become one of ‘them.’ CGS
Cool, so mostly on the job training then? I’m sorry you had a bad experience at your community college. But one professor is not evidence all higher education is bad.
Even an “informal” apprenticeship is an apprenticeship. Nothing wrong with that at all.
X @ November 14, 2026 at 11:47 AM: thank you for your reply and understanding but, additionally, I worked with many college educated professionals through the years, not just one super arrogant instructor with a Ph.D. Enough for today. CGS
CGS, as an aside, I’m curious as to why a PH.D is even teaching at a community college. I recognize that not everyone who has a Ph.D is going to be a good instructor.
That’s not evidence every professor is bad or arrogant.
The dots are dots, Mr. Shaver. Connecting them is your imagination. And your imagination stinks.
^^^There it is^^^
A perfect example of a someone who learned from the flawed perspective of those early years and someone willing to acknowledge a reality many want to willfully deny.
Quit jerking off.
“extremist capitalism” is a nonsense term.
x @ November 14, 2026 at 10:50 AM: actually, with their being some good aspects to capitalism and moderate socialism being about half way along an economic spectrum between capitalism and communism, extremism is the problem. CGS
Shaver, I agree extremism is the problem. It seems most don’t make that distinction and apply even some form of socialism as too extremist.
There is no such thing as ‘extremist capitalism’. Capitalism is a summary term division of labor in production where different functions – production, management, power generation, finance, &c are done by different parties. Capitalism is a practice, not an ideology.
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As for ‘moderate socialism’, maybe you all tell us what that is, brass tacks. We have subsidized services, some in sectors where that has a long pedigree, some in other sectors. We have income transfer programs. That’s more recent and it rides on the government having a certain base of information. More recent, but you can still find examples in occidental societies dating back nearly five generations. Neither subsidizing services nor income transfers are responses to the question of what gets produced and who produces it. They are answers as to who receives the benefits of production.
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The only extremism in this country is exhibited by people hostile to law enforcement and hostile to public discussion. You want to see examples, there some new members of Congress with which to acquaint yourself. You want an example of the latter, you can check in to forums like this and find people who fancy Charlie Kirk was asking for it by holding tabling events on college campuses.
x @ November 14, 2026 at 12:01 PM: contrary to official, popular and professional opinions, I’ll define “moderate socialism” for you as what the Founders prescribed the United States of America to be in the preamble to the Constitution, which was ratified by every state that joined the Union. Further more, as should be apparent and agreeable to any reasonably prudent American adult, I find the highly educated Founders (intentionally or not) did what most highly educated individuals are best at doing, copying nature (e.g., President = conscious mind; left brain = the Senate; right brain = the House, so-on and so-forth down the line between the nation and the body, down to the individual citizens/cells.
It worked well until a minority of the too powerful and rich determined they knew better; America today. In addition to high school, some military service, electrical training and some community college, I began learning and practicing secular mind power methods for self-improvement in late 1975. From one of my “insights:” The five rules (not laws) of human behavior; 1) behavior plus reward yields motivation; 2) behavior plus penalty yields inhibition; 3) self-determination shall prevail; 4) moderation is the key and 5) time is the master of us all. Excuse me but I really need to take advantage of a relatively nice afternoon for some outdoor chores. I’ll be back, some issue, sometime. CGS
Fantasy upon fantasy.
extremist capitalism? Says an indoctrinated.
Really, Shaver? Wait till the Amazon rain forest, machetes in hand, tattoos head to toe, arrive. We’ll all wish those greedy rich people had a stake here. They’ve left. I imagine Governor Abbott is quietly happy to be out.
Happy holidays
Are you suggesting that we replace ‘extremist capitalism’ with islamist-state monarchy or theocracy? Would that have prevented the attacks?
JFC, you self-loathing twits are so out of your minds…the islamists are on jihad, always have been and always will be.
hahaha, thrown to a lesser god? hahahaha, bob.
9/11 was more complicated than that. Osama bin Laden saw the way Islam in the Middle East was corrupted by the West and determined the solution was to drive the West out. The main obstacle to doing so was eliminating the Saudi government, which is the main conduit of corruption into the Middle East.
What better plan than to perform a repeat of the Pearl Harbor attack to get America to retaliate against the Saudis – the majority of the hijackers. Then, with the Saudi government decapitated, bin Laden would rally Muslims worldwide to drive the infidels out of the area, leading to a new caliphate with Osama bin Laden at the head. After all, the USA was OK with whatever Japan was doing to China, but following Pearl Harbor the US went into full mobilization. Osama bin Laden hoped for a repeat.
Attacking the main economic symbol, the main military symbol, and a main government symbol (which failed) was intended to bring a uniting force to the US with blind anger in the response. The plan went wrong because the ties between Bush and the Saudis were too strong and so the response was redirected towards enemies of Saudi Arabia.
“One in five college students believe we deserve 9/11 and half view socialism favorably”, not to mention the majority of them know anything about American history, can read and comprehend what they’ve read and if they were required to take and pass a college entrance exam 75% of them would fail.
J Pismo Klam,
I am a non-traditional student at a community college. Sadly I have seen the how many of them cannot read and comprehend college level text books. I know of one professor who has had to resort to making YouTube videos.
non-traditional student? In others words, you’re a moron and your are in special ed class, that about right?
No, he’s over the age of 25 and enrolled in classes at that particular community college. This isn’t that difficult.
Community college? Now that’s a joke if ever there was one. Somehow farmer thinks he’s smarter than them all. He’s a pig farmer.
BTW, ask him about the “Magna Carter”.