Hundreds of people at the 79th annual Bud Billiken Parade found themselves without cars after a towing company, Rendered Services, allegedly posted no parking signs after they had parked and then towed them. They refuse to render what is Rendered. The company now faces an ex post facto posting case.
The citizens and businesses claims that Rendered waited until lots were almost full to post the signs at the parade started at 10 am and then towed away the vehicles. The police were inundated with calls.
In case you are wondering, getting bilked at the Billiken comes to a tune of $170 per vehicle.
For the full story, click here.
Why is it that anything to do with cars just gets sleezy?
I would give the tow operator a choice, being charges with the theft of the 50 cars and receiving the appropriate sentence or paying for each driver’s gasoline until his conviction and sentencing, the free gas would compensate the victims for their troubles.
Although, I’m sure if he was afraid he’d lose a hand for theft, it wouldn’t have happened in the first place.
Jill,
As the son of a Car Dealer and Car Salesman I can tell you that you correctly perceive it to be a business rife with sleeze. So much so that I became a civil servant and social worker in reaction. I think the sleeziness stems from the fact that the Corporate Culture has sold the automobile as a status and sex symbol. Most people use and buy cars to fulfill their need for status(at whatever level), or as proof of their own sexual desirability (see The Hidden Persuaders by Vance Packard as a guide)and power. Given this, most automobile decisions are tinged with irrationality, giving those of a lesser ethical persuasion the opportunity to cheat and steal.
“Although, I’m sure if he was afraid he’d lose a hand for theft, it wouldn’t have happened in the first place.”
Zak,
If that was true, why was it that in medieval England which hung pickpockets, public hangings were hotbeds of pickpocketing? Your ME mentality is showing. In Saudi Arabia, for instance, where such draconian punishments abound crime is still quite existent.
Michael,
That was a wonderful story. I think you’re correct. We need something safe, comfortable and mechanically reliable to get from point A to point B. Preferabley it would come in your choice of electric, hydrogen or biodiesel! It’s like watches or diamonds. None of these are rare objects but you’d think you were buying Sumerian grave goods on the black market the way they’re treated. Parenthetically, I’ve never done that:)!
But really, if you’re not opening a trunk to find a dead body or somebody isn’t making a denunciation of atheists on the hood, or someone isn’t flying around an oval with stickers all over the body–it just ain’t cars!
When you state opinion, that’s wonderful, but when you try to pass it off as fact, please provide some stats. Although, “crime is still quite existent” may very well have been just your vague generalization. But since research seems difficult for some, I have had to compile yet another list for you.
Per Capita Crime Rates per 1 000 – USA vs. Saudi Arabia
Assaults 7.6 0.17
Car Theft 3.88 0.21
Murders 0.043 0.0039
Rapes 0.30 0.0032
Prisoners 7.15 1.1
Now feel free to give us your opinion as to why the rates are so different, I have an answer, but feel free to go first.
Zakimar,
Where are your numbers from? What is your source? That information would be useful to verify their accuracy.
I’m guessing they come from something that rests on a bike seat!
rafflaw; Go to Nationmaster.com, unlike Jill, I believe ignorance is a BAD thing.
I guess it’s easier to be ‘igornant’ like Jill that to press the keys on her keyboard in the following sequence: C R I M E R A T E S B Y C O U N T R Y ‘Enter key’. There’s a new thing ‘out there’ called “Google”.
If I was this wrong, this often, it would encourage me to go back and at least finish Junior High. “I’m guessing they come from (something that rests on a bike seat)!”, at least makes someone a ‘lady’.
If this blog required people to reference facts, in my opinion, 2/3 of people would disappear. I know it’s because some people are too lazy to do any research, but most are not only ignorant, but are content in their ignorance.
I once stated that the media was at least 75% controlled by Jews. Instead of doing their own research, I was told that I was being “less than truthful”, I was asked for proof or was just countered with propaganda/lies, by the LAZY. When I responded with hard figures, I was ridiculed for producing the list, by the IGNORANT. So instead of an apology, the ignorant will not respond to the facts or counter with more unsubstantiated propaganda.
Zakimar,
Thanks for the cite. I looked at it and couldn’t find how these countries differ in their reporting of the crimes. I don’t doubt that the U.S. has a higher rate of reported crime when compared to Saudi Arabia, but there is also a definition issue when you are talking about a country that does not allow women to drive a car. What happens to a woman who commits adultery in Saudi Arabia, and is that result considered a crime?
That’s one of the ironies I was going to point out to the next person who came up with some excuse as to why these figures weren’t ‘good enough’ for them (which I take it you’re not). There are many more acts that are considered crimes in a country like Saudi Arabia than the US, yet SA still has fewer criminals. Most “moral” issues are not crimes in the US, homosexuality, adultery, fornication, as well as other acts such as drinking alcohol, suggestive clothing, unaccompanied females etc.
Zionists would like to use the fact that SOME Islamic countries have SOME different laws to put a wedge between Muslims and Christian Americans, without pointing out the different laws of Israel. I posted a comment about a brave, female, American, Jew Rachel Corrie that was murdered by being crushed with a bulldozer that she was trying to stop from destroying yet more Palestinian homes. The fact that a Jew was driving made it an “accident” that the US Government and Media failed to address, if it were an Arab driving, he would be a “terrorist”. Others that praise Israel and condemn Arabs and Muslims had nothing to say.
Also, I remember when a Texan killed two people with a shotgun for stealing from a neighbor’s home last year, he was not charged and was even called a hero. I’m sure they would have rather lost a hand than being shot in the back and losing their lives.
I would point out some of the more bizarre acts carried out by Jews, but as to not be labeled an anti-Semite, I’ll defer until the proper occasion presents itself.
Here I get, “Obama is a piece of crap” and “I’m guessing they come from something that rests on a bike seat!” I really miss debating with intelligent people. I guess a career in media is out of the question for me.
Zakimar,
I didn’t say that the stats weren’t good enough. I was just saying that any country that represses a significant portion of its population may not accurately report the crimes of its citizens. Saudi Arabia is not the only country. Statistics from any dictatorship would be suspect. Remember we are living with a President who doesn’t believe in science and lies about WMD’s in order to get us into a war so why should we believe what a dictatorship reports.
That’s a relief, I was expecting an argument of, “My mind’s made up, don’t confuse me with the facts”. But I guess an argument of, ‘I can’t believe anything they say’ will do.
Zakimar,
I’m still waiting to find out how you know those 75% are Jewish? What’s lazier, me not wanting to spend an hour weeding through a bunch of websites or you not wanting to spend the 30 seconds it would take for you to type your source? We don’t ask for sources on most things you post, just when you give specific numbers or extensive lists.
As far as criticizing your sources (although this is the first time I can remember you listing one), that’s legitimate debate. If every time you listed a source people said “That’s source is wrong.” and didn’t give a reason why, you’d be perfectly right to say “You always find fault with my sources. I can only think of one time you’ve given the source, and all that was said about it was something that you later acknowledged. Further more if you KNOW your source has issues, just say something like “This is where I got my numbers, but you have to take into consideration that ______.” Saying “I knew that but I was waiting to use it against you,” is sort of disingenuous.
You’d also probably seem a little more reasonable and a little less obsessive about things if every thread didn’t seem to end up with you talking about the Zionists. Including one about a tow truck company, several about police brutality, and one about a man arrested for child molestation. I realize you’re not always the first to bring up the subject of Middle eastern affairs, but you seem to have a script on the matter.
Zak,
First of all I didn’t state that Saudi crime rates were equivalent to those in the US, I said:”In Saudi Arabia, for instance, where such draconian punishments abound crime is still quite existent.” and based on your figures that is true although the rates there are low. I in fact referenced medieval England rather than the US. Why do you think that was? My point was about the futility of draconian punishment as a deterrent to crime.
Check out the murder rate in the US for the leading States that apply the Death Penalty (Texas, for one), as compared to those that don’t, if you want an example of what I mean. While some valid objections regarding your statistics have been raised, I’ll accept them as real and indeed exemplary.
However, I am interested in your preferences. Do you think Saudi Arabia, an absolute monarchy/oligarchy, that proclaims itself an Islamic State is a good place for average people to live? Do you believe that their draconian system of dealing both with crime and morality is a good way to run a society? Do you believe that oppression of women, not allowing them to drive for instance, is a valid tool of male control?
If you do then please stop preaching to us about your commitment to fighting injustice in this world, because you are either a hypocrite or a fanatic. This is not about European vs. Islamic justice, this is about fundamental human rights that apply despite the tyranny of particular cultures. This is also about nations where wealth and power are under the aegis of a small percentage of a predominantly oppressed citizenry.
Finally, in other posts you have alluded to the fact that you “have a perfect life” and implied that you are a man of means. Could it be that although you espouse a need to assist the oppressed and downtrodden, your own comfort skews the views you have of oppression and softens them when it comes to issues of your own exalted status?
When I posted the list, the response was typical nonsense like that from you, rafflaw, percy, mespo, jill and the like. As most of the ignorant seem content in their ignorance, it’s not for me to research my research so that the likes of you can say, “so why should we believe…” I know that I’ll never change the minds of your ilk, so I’m not directing my comments to you, but to the intelligent people that want to learn and demonstrate that by not believing everything they read and actually doing some of their own research. So go back to your parents’ basements tonight and turn on Fox or CNN to do some more reel good lernin.
Zak,
Re: “So go back to your parents’ basements tonight and turn on Fox or CNN to do some more reel good lernin.”
I think that you don’t realize that most of the posters here are people who have worked a good deal in their lives and are not recent University graduates dependent upon their parents’ support. Mine for instance died when I was 18, 46 years ago and I had to work my way through University, Graduate School and as a post-Graduate, despite the fact I won full tuition scholarships at each level.
You on the other hand, are by your own statement a “person of means,” leading a perfect life. Your constant references to university lead me to conclude you are either still there or have recently graduated and now live off of the family business or financial support.
Because you are obviously so young I’ve treated you gently, since I remember my own youth and my own conviction of my infallibility. Truth to tell though, you are becoming obnoxious because you are so full of yourself that you don’t ever fully read, or comprehend the points you are attacking. This is demonstrated by your lame argumentation, that would in fact make any Neo-Con proud, since they argue in much the same fashion. You in fact mostly respond as a spoiled rich boy, who professes compassion for others, but is just using that profession as a reflection of his own narcissism.
Zakimar,
The burden of proof is on the person making the claims. Your flat refusal to list a simple website name makes me think that you’re ashamed of your sources. You tell us that you are talking to people that don’t “believe everything they read” and then berate us for not believing everything we read from you.
Let’s apply your responses to another situation.
Person A: Quebec separatists make up 75% of the Canadian Media.
Person B: How do you know?
Person A: Why should I do your research for you, what are you lazy?
Person B: Just tell me the name of your sources, it’ll take you 30 seconds and save me an hour.
Person A: You won’t believe me anyways, you’re an idiot. Why should I have to research my research for the likes of you to not believe me? You’re a loser.
I started off as civil towards you from the first, which was if I remember correctly you calling for the slaughter of American soldiers. That’s right, you called for the killing of my friends and family and I was civil, and have generally stayed civil. You on the other hand resort to insulting me because I DARE to ask you for your source of information. And yet you claim that you’re the one who is open minded.
The above message of mine was to gyges but MS, perhaps you can let him know if any of those names didn’t belong on that list of Jews in the Media.
As for your comments MS, I have responded to you far too many times without any rebuttal to warrant spending any more time on your SAME points again and again. Please see: Shock Video: S. Carolina Deputy; Bin Laden Driver Gets 5 1/2 Years; Ohio Officer Acquitted (see copy of the list of Jews in the Media, in which you and I responded to gyges); Israel Restricts Universities, and that’s just in the last week. I love to debate and I hate to argue.
My life may be “perfect”, but my children appreciate and deserve my time much more than you.
It is so nice of you to be civil when I dare to suggest that a population, who is bombed, shot, kidnapped, tortured and raped, defends itself by killing the OCCUPYING ARMY of an ILLEGAL war.
Thank you for you kindness and generosity. I’m sure the extended family of the little girl that was raped and murdered and then had her entire family slaughtered by your “friends and family” will appreciate your civility!
Zakimar,
Apparently you can’t respond to my main points so you have to deflect. Well I’m not falling for it. I’ll say it again, the burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. How do you know 75% of the Media is Jewish?
Gyges,
Do we get to count the christian media empire?
Jill,
My first response was: only if it fits in with Zakimar’s world view, Otherwise counting it would just propaganda or lies.
I actually think we should include that in the 75%, because by Jew he really means Zionist (even though he doesn’t think all Jews are Zionists, he still uses the terms interchangeably). And they are admittedly Zionists. I’m being sincere in that.
I agree that Zak uses these terms interchangably but in reality they are different. So we have to know either 1. is 75% of the media Jewish or 2. is 75% zionist no matter what their faith or no faith at all is. A third question to ask is if one can show A or B then how does it effect news coverage. These are all complicated questions which I believe explains why there is no evidence given to support the claims!
For the complete list of 87 names, please see the 05-AUG-08 story on this site titled, “Ohio Officer Acquitted…” The list was explained to you several times on that site along with many other points and examples with no rebuttal.
And if I was just informed that MY “friends and family” gang raped and murdered a 14 year old girl, and that half of the men were of the same religion/race as jill, I wouldn’t be talking about lists, except maybe Schindler’s.
“The above message of mine was to gyges but MS, perhaps you can let him know if any of those names didn’t belong on that list of Jews in the Media.”
Zak,
Ruppert Murdoch is not a Jew for openers. But riddle me this how come you won’t let Gyges know that you got your info on “Jews in the Media” at http://www.jewwatch.com. A virulently anti-Jewish website, that is rather open about their bigotry….ooops pardon me, your facts
“As for your comments MS, I have responded to you far too many times without any rebuttal to warrant spending any more time on your SAME points again and again.”
Again Zak you have never responded directly to the main points I’ve made. You respond to straw men based on intentional misreading of my statements and then lo and behold you demolish points I never made, while ignoring points I have made. This was illustrated by the exchange above where you compared your unsourced US with Saudi crime rates. Only I never made that comparison.
“I love to debate and I hate to argue.”
All you do is engage in ad hominem argument. Interestingly, with a technique that is the same as that used by the Neo-Cons and by the Bushies, which is to just keep repeating your false talking points and never pay attention to anyone’s salient points in return.
“My life may be “perfect”, but my children appreciate and deserve my time much more than you.”
This is typical of how you argue with innuendo. In my prior post I stated that I believed you were a young man, either still at school or who had just graduated. I also inferred that your “means” came from being supported by your family. You could have stated your real age, could have spoken of gainful employment, etc. Instead you allude to having children, which might lead people to believe that you are older and have a family to support. Everything about your preferred method of argument, you are not able to debate judging from your written material, reeks of being disingenuous.
Zakimar,
If the 87 names are your only proof of the Zionists that are 75% of the media that means that you think 116 people make up the entirety of the US Media. Also again I ask, how do you know that they are Zionist? It’s not a hard question to answer. I’ll even get you started “I got that list of names from ____”
I went to MS suggestion above, and you’ll find all the names on the list. If that site isn’t good enough, because he says it’s anti-Semitic (not untrue however). How is a site that lists the names of people and their occupation racist?
Secondly, Murdoch’s mother is a Jew and Jews trace their race through their mother’s side. One of his daughters married Mr. Kantor and the other Mr. Freud (Sigmund’s grandson).
Also, anyone who brags about having “friends and family” that gang rape a 14 year old girl and then murders her and her entire family is beneath contempt. I note that those who support that must also find it acceptable.
Zakimar,
I thought your problem was with Zionists not Jews? If his mother was a Jew, that doesn’t mean he’s a Zionist. It seems you’ve forgotten your statement about the difference between Jews and Zionist.
You refuse to answer a simple question like “where did you get your information,” and instead constantly try to bait me with completely unfounded and inflammatory statements. I’ve come to the conclusion that you’re not interested in an actual discussion, but instead just want to read off your own internal script and heap abuses on anyone that has the nerve to try and probe beneath the surface of what you’re saying. So since you’re obviously unable or unwilling to engage in a conversation with someone that doesn’t fawn over your every word, I’m done with you.
If you want to continue this discussion simply let me know where you got that list of names. Otherwise, feel free to spout all the unbacked facts you want, I won’t bother to challenge you any more.
“How is a site that lists the names of people and their occupation racist?
Secondly, Murdoch’s mother is a Jew and Jews trace their race through their mother’s side.”
Zak,
There you go again and you don’t even realize the inconsistency of your own diatribes. http://www.jewwatch.com doesn’t hide the fact that they’re anti-Jewish, they glory in it. You’re not that naive that you don’t understand that. You’re just disingenuous.
Secondly, the fact of Murdoch’s mother being Jewish is a disputed one. Certainly, Murdoch wasn’t raised as a Jew. When by the way did jews become a race? Judaism is a religion, just like Islam. One doesn’t equate Arabs with Irani’s. However, if they are a race, semites some say, than they are native to the ME and have just as much right to be there as their brothers the Arabs. You really can’t have it both ways, but in your bigoted logic you try to.
Gyges, you’re right. I quit.
Finally, that’s all I could ever hope for from the “friend and family” of child rapists.
Abraham had two sons Ishmael and Isaac, Ishmael was the “Father of the Arabs” and Isaac was the “father of the Jews”. Arabs and Jews are cousins by BLOOD.
Your Rabbi is doing a poor job of teaching you your history or you are just trying to deceive the ignorant.
“Abraham had two sons Ishmael and Isaac, Ishmael was the “Father of the Arabs” and Isaac was the “father of the Jews”. Arabs and Jews are cousins by BLOOD.”
Zak,
You’re correct. However, I notice that typically you didn’t respond to my point on race. Arabs and Jews are cousins by blood, but Semites aren’t a race. Islam and Judaism are religions, which you well know. It’s just that when in the interest of making your bigoted points you interchangeably use Zionists, Jews and the concept of a “Jewish Race.”
Finally, although I’m sure you don’t realize it, your point quoted above was a non-sequitur, in terms of answering my points. I suppose that debating at the University you attended has different rules, than those normally used by most other schools, maybe that’s why you were so successful there.
When I stated, “Murdoch’s mother is a Jew and Jews trace their race through their mother’s side”, I mentioned nothing of “Semites”. The Arab RACE and the Jew RACE have the same ancestor – which has nothing to do with religion. The fact that most Arabs are Muslim and most Jews are Jewish, doesn’t change my point. Murdoch may say that by FAITH he is a Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist, that doesn’t change the fact that by RACE he’s a JEW. And that was my only point. The fact his first wife Patricia Booker is a Jew as was his second wife Anna Torv and that his two daughters married Jews (one is Sigmund Freud’s grandson) and that ALL of his media outlets spout pro-Israel, pro-Jew, anti-Arab, anti-Muslim propaganda is an INDICATOR that he is most likely a ZIONIST.
Regardless of his race, Murdoch is 77 years old and looks like the Crypt Keeper. When he dies, and hopefully that will be soon, we’ll see who is officiating at his funeral (aside from Satan of course), my guess, it’ll be the Chief Rabbi of Israel or at least the US.
If you follow up with your Rabbi, I’m sure he will tell you that the Jews trace their RACE through their maternal bloodline (the race of the father is of no consequence).
And as far as debates go, the secret is if possible do more RESEARCH than your opponents.
The following is just one of the MANY sources to which I referred. I like to be thorough.
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, June 2003, pages 24-26
Neocon Corner
Rupert Murdoch and William Kristol: Using the Press to Advance Israel’s Interests
By Richard H. Curtiss
Rupert Murdoch: Despite Affairs Worldwide, His Heart Stays With Israel
Press lord Rupert Murdoch was born in Melbourne, Australia, on March 11, 1931. His grandfather was a Protestant minister who immigrated to Australia from Britain. Rupert’s father, Sir Keith Murdoch, was a newspaper publisher, and his mother an Orthodox Jew, although Murdoch never offers that information in his biographies. He later became an American citizen for business reasons. Depending on which biography you choose to believe, Murdoch either had humble origins as a newspaperman (Murdoch’s version), or was given a first-rate education at Oxford’s Worcester College and eventually turned his inheritance into a multi-billion-dollar company.
Zakimar,
So that you can’t change arguments in midstream any more, are you upset that Jews are 75% of the media or that Zionists are 75% of the media. When you first gave that statistic it was Zionists, now we’re arguing about Murdoch’s Genealogy. Being of Jewish descent doesn’t automatically make you a Zionist does it?
No, but your pride in having family and friends that rape and murder 7 and 14 year old girls means you might as well be a Zionist.
I don’t fault you for being related to child rapists, but to be boastful about that fact is truly sickening. Even the likes on this blog of percy, martha and russ haven’t stooped to that level, yet.
zakimar
1, August 13, 2008 at 6:29 am
Unlike some people including “Former Muslim” (and I think we all know who that is), Islam believes that God loves EVERYONE. And in his love, he has brought Prophets to ALL people. From Adam to Mohammed, there have been thousands of Prophets. Some of Gods children have chosen to ignore the Prophets and others accepted His messages.
I am thankful to have a father that taught me many religions in order that I may compare for myself. I am also thankful that as a Muslim, I am taught to accept Moses and Jesus as my Prophets as well. I would be a little worried, if on the Day of Judgment, I was asked why I ignored his Prophets and the best I could come up with was, “That’s what my parents told me”.
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It would appear that God loves Zionists, Jews and EVERYONE, which I think is a very good way for any believer to think about god.
The above was a quote by zakimar on the bio.
Thank you for sharing my quotes. I however don’t think that God’s love for Mankind prevents Him from Judgment of those that commit evil.
I note that you AND gyges seem to have no problem with Zionist, child rapists and murders. I would bet that God’s Judgment differs greatly from yours.
“The Arab RACE and the Jew RACE”
“that doesn’t change the fact that by RACE he’s a JEW”
“If you follow up with your Rabbi, I’m sure he will tell you that the Jews trace their RACE through their maternal bloodline”
Zakie,
There is no Arab Race. There is no Jew(ish)Race. In both cases the term race for either is scientifically unsupportable. I had begun to get the message that you were simply an anti-Jewish bigot without the courage to take responsibility for his prejudice, but now I see that you are also a racist bigot.
Only racist bigots begin the futile discussion about race. The reason for this is so they can simply paint people by their ancestry. I don’t have to ask my Rabbi about this because I already know it. The matrilineal transmission of Judaism is about religion not race. If an African-American woman who has converted to Judaism, has a child that child is Jewish, by religion not race. Religion is what matrilineal descent means in Judaism, not race. Of course racists have always declared Jewishness by ancestry, just as they have declared blackness by descent. Racists, of your ilk I think, look at a light skinned person with one black Great Grandparent as being black. In fact while we’re on race, we are genetically all one race, with some physical differences caused by environment. In the end to any thinking person none of these human differences are of any importance, it really is about an individual’s humanity and not what group they belong to.
Ruppert Murdoch was not brought up as a Jew and does not practice Judaism, despite who his ancestors were, so he isn’t Jewish. The Freud analogy is ridiculous since Freud was an atheist and didn’t believe in Judaism, either. Someone born a Muslim, but who does not practice Islam (Salmon Rushdie, for instance)is not a Muslim. Barry
Goldwater had a Jewish Grandfather, but no one thought he was a Jew when he ran for President. In fact he got less than 10% of the Jewish vote.
As for the all Jews are Zionists propaganda there are many anti-zionists among Jews. Arthur Zinn for instance. Also there is a whole Hassidic Sect, the Satmers, who were/are against the establishment of the State of Israel. Only a hater of Jews would make the claims you make. You are allowed to be a bigot. If that is your prerogative, after all who’s to stop you? At least though, you should have the courage to be honest about it. Many other bigots who hate Jews at least have the courage to proclaim their feelings.
I think when you get challenged by points which you have no means of contesting, your petulance and your true feelings show themselves.
They appear somewhat ugly and self serving when the veneer of decency slips away, exposing just another angry young man of privilege and wealth, who narcissistically professes sympathy with the downtrodden, as he shifts though intellectual gears more similar to those of a 1953 Dodge Power Wagon, than those of a Porsche.
“I however don’t think that God’s love for Mankind prevents Him from Judgment of those that commit evil.” Zak’s quote from above.
Zak, you’re saying it’s up to god to do the judging. He loves everyone and he judges everyone. So these issues are up to god. It still doesn’t negate that god loves EVERYONE, which would include, well, EVERYONE, even Zionists and murderers and rapists as you yourself said.
It would include you as would god’s judgment.
I enjoy criticism, but try to keep it down to three or four points at a time.
1) If by saying Jews are a race, that makes me hate Jews, then by saying Arabs are a race, which must mean I also hate Arabs, which is nonsense.
2) I have come across many Jews that try to claim Jews are not a race, but never have I come across someone that tries to claim Arabs are not a race. The only difference is that Arabs are proud of their race. There is a GENETIC disorder associated with European Jews, Tay-Sachs. Note; it’s not called a RELIGIOUS disorder.
3) I agree that race isn’t important as can be seen in the millions of Muslims that are Indian, Asian, Arab, European…
4) I will never argue that there is a difference between Jew and Jewish. Tom Arnold went back and forth from being Jewish when he married Roseanne Barr, a Jew. There are even some Jews that changed to the Muslim faith, but that doesn’t mean they’re no longer Jews, they are now Muslim Jews.
5) I never said that ALL Jews were Zionist. I said that the vast majority of Israeli Jews are probably Zionists if 99% of Jew professors think there is nothing wrong with an ILLEGAL occupation.
6) Privilege and wealth? I worked for all the meaningless things I own, and God gave us the angels that I am fortunate enough to be raising.
Palestinians, much like Native Americans didn’t have that many problems with the minority at the beginning. The problem started, in both cases, when that minority decided that it was now their country and treated the former majority like dirt. There is little difference between the concentration camps of Gaza, the west Bank and the Reservations in North America. The main difference between the Natives Americans and the Arabs is that the Arabs are still the majority and will NEVER give up trying to go back home. Your Zionist propaganda may do well in Israel, North America and SOME European countries, but the Arab race (Muslim, Christian or otherwise) will “Never Forget”.
Zakimar,
Thank you for reminding me why I stopped debating you. I’ll ask again but I don’t think you’ll answer the question. Are you upset that 75% of the media is (according to your claims) Jewish, or are you upset because 75% of the media is (according to your claims) Zionist?
Thank you for sharing my other quote. And as I said, I however don’t think that God’s love for Mankind prevents Him from Judgment of those that commit evil.
Again, I note that you AND gyges seem to have no problem with Zionist, child rapists and murders. I would bet that God’s Judgment differs greatly from yours.
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