Live Free (Elsewhere): New Hampshire Moves To Strip Voter Rolls of College Students

New Hampshire Rep. Gregory Sorg (R- Grafton County) is being accused of trying to prune the voter rolls of presumed liberal voters by barring college students from voting. His “Voters Attending Institutions of Learning” would tell students to vote back home.


The law would establish that “the domicile for voting purposes” of a college student would be the town or city “in which such person had his or her domicile immediately prior to matriculation … even though his or her intent to return thereto is uncertain.”

I have serious constitutional doubts over the viability of the law, particularly in terms of vagueness and equal protection. However, it is the motivation that is now being questioned after the release of comments by Speaker of the House William O’Brien (R-Hillsborough), who told a conservative group that college students registering to vote on Election Day “are basically doing what I did when I was a kid and foolish, voting as a liberal.”

Supporters, however, insist that college students increase the danger of voting fraud in the state.

The proposed law states in pertinent part:

654:2-b Voters Attending Institutions of Learning.

I. The domicile for voting purposes of a person attending an institution of learning shall be the state, or the town, city, ward, or unincorporated place in New Hampshire, in which such person had his or her domicile immediately prior to matriculation, even though such person may no longer reside in said state, town, city, ward, or unincorporated place, and even though his or her intent to return thereto is uncertain. The domicile for voting purposes of a person attending an institution of learning shall not be the place where the institution is located unless the person was domiciled in that place prior to matriculation.

So, even if the student does not reside in another state and has no plans to return to the earlier state, New Hampshire will refuse to recognize his or her domicile for purposes of voting? Matriculation is generally defined as “to be admitted into a group, especially a college or university.”

The problem with the bill is not the right of the state to define who is an eligible voter, but how they are going to disfranchise students who attest that they consider New Hampshire to be their home or do not intend to return home to their original state. In terms of equal protection, how are they going to handle military personnel who under federal law are allowed domestically. Presumably, they can continue to vote in New Hampshire despite not living in the state. How about missionaries and others living abroad? Those voters are guaranteed federal voting rights under the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act (UOCAVA). They will be presumably allowed to vote in New Hampshire elections, but not students.

The denial of state voting to students could lead to complications for joint federal and state elections. It also could lead to challenges based on the 26th Amendment which was drafted in part to overturn Oregon v. Mitchell, 400 U.S. 112 (1970) where the Court found Congress could not compel states to register 18-year-old citizens in state and local elections.

While the federalism arguments behind this bill are compelling in many circumstances of voter regulation, this bill would use federalism principles to cut out voters and thereby dictate electoral results. It would effectively say that the voters of New Hampshire should decide such questions but we are not going to allow a significant number of prior voters to be heard on such questions.

It would bar these voters on highly speculative grounds to fighting voter fraud without a showing that such fraud is the direct result of college students voting or that such fraud can be avoided without disenfranchising young people.

Notably, while politicians are constantly complaining about young people not being involved in politics and voting, this bill would bar students from getting involved. They are much more likely to be motivated to vote in their college and university towns. I am astonished not to see any response from educational organizations in opposition to this proposal.

These legislators have a rather narrow view of the state motto. They may pledge to “Live Free and Die”, but it does not mean live here. However, if you die in New Hampshire, you will presumably be considered fully domiciled.

Source:  The New Hampshire and Reddit

Jonathan Turley

55 Responses to “Live Free (Elsewhere): New Hampshire Moves To Strip Voter Rolls of College Students”


  1. 1 Elaine M. 1, January 31, 2011 at 9:36 am

    How can a state take away a citizen’s right to vote in a national election?

  2. 2 Swarthmore mom 1, January 31, 2011 at 9:45 am

    Photo identification is rapidly moving through the Texas legislature. It is one of Perry’s priorities. Blouise is right about paying attention to what is happening locally. This is where the republicans plan to make their 2010 victories permanent.

  3. 3 Stamford Liberal 1, January 31, 2011 at 9:59 am

    I suggest New Hampshire citizens set this strawman on fire.

  4. 4 Swarthmore mom 1, January 31, 2011 at 10:00 am

    The students vote for the democrats. In a small state it can make a difference. They want to make sure Obama does not carry the state in 2012.

  5. 5 eniobob 1, January 31, 2011 at 10:39 am

    **New Hampshire Rep. Gregory Sorg (R- Grafton County)**
    Is representing what the current, “republican party” ?

    Is trying to do all across the country on so many different levels in trying to steal our government as we know it.

  6. 6 Blouise 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Back in the early 1900′s the Democrats partnered with the Republicans and went state by state changing the voting laws making the formation of a third political party as difficult as possible. It took a few years for them to reach the goal of ensuring their permanence. Their joint campaign succeeded brilliantly and they changed the face of representative democracy in this country forever.

    I remind everyone of the role “gerrymandering” plays in Federal redistricting each time a state changes parties.

    I mention these two points in an attempt to illustrate how Republicans intend to gain the advantage for their party in each state by pushing through state-level bills similar to the one we see Rep. Sorg presenting. Each state will have its own identified area of change … more than one per state.

    They will distract the public with hate filled, divisive, angry speech on the national level so that the real damage can be quietly wrecked at the state level.

    They have 4-5 years to prepare for 2016 … the strategy is set. The Republican Party is like any other large corporation … the needs of the country be damned … ensuring their own position of power within the country is the goal.

  7. 7 rafflaw 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:09 am

    This is just one more example of Republican vote fraud. The Dems need to come out and call this what it is, an attempt to deny students the right to vote and the right to decide where there domicile is. The Republicans are doing this kind of thing all across the country as eniobob and Swarthmore Mom have already suggested. In Wisconsin they are now trying to push a voter ID law through. A law that will impact the poor and elderly more than anyone else.

  8. 8 Tootie 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:16 am

    The out of state students are visitors. Just like if you are staying with a relative in another state but are still a citizen of your previous state. Maybe you are taking care of an elderly family member for a few years and don’t know when you will return (this was my status a number of years ago.)

    I’m sure they would need to have an exception for students who were citizens of New Hampshire before they matriculated within NH. They indeed are still citizens and have a right to vote in NH.

    I assumed this is how it worked for most students. At least it did my offspring to attended school out of state and voted in elections from the state he left (and was born in and where his parents lived).

    He didn’t vote in the elections of the state he was going to college in. And his rights were equally protected because he got to vote as often as I did.

  9. 9 Tootie 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Oh, and if the colleges and universities in NH stepped up and said something against this, these out of state students wouldn’t have to pay HIGH out of state fees (since the law would essentially make them residents).

    And we know colleges and universities are run by leftists. And they lust for money, money, money, and more money and shudder to think they would miss out on this price gouging.

    This is why colleges and universities hire foreign teachers and workers in unlimited numbers (they lobby government for this).

    It’s all about money, money, money, and more money.

  10. 10 Anonymously Yours 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:41 am

    This shit was successful in Michigan…ask John Engler…the dromedary governor….he packed it in for himself and screwed the rest….he gets a House, Senate and Governors Salary while blasting career politicians…. then went to work for EDS and NW Air and now is a consultant in DC…..

  11. 11 Rich 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Students aren’t necessarily “visitors”. man6y take up residence in the summer and remain near their university after gradutaion. The bill is filled with dubious assumptions.

  12. 12 Buddha Is Laughing 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Yeah Tootles. All universities are run by leftists. For example, Regents and Bob Jones University and Oral Roberts University and Hillsdale College and all those other schools completely devoid of actual educational content in their mission to spread their conservative ideology which is often out of touch with reality. A good education does in fact foster liberal values. This is partly because liberal values come from the realization that there is more to making the world better than simply making it better for yourself at any cost. The fostering of liberal values also comes from exposure to the realities of the world through an undistorted lens. For example, the realization that resources are not infinite – a reality that cannot be ignored – when not combined with selfishness but rather with that “evil” humanism and egalitarianism you so despise, will naturally create the truthful knowledge that the best way to make the world better is to work to make the world better for all and not just yourself or “your team”. That proper education is a threat to conservatives – who depend upon myopia and stupidity to sell their agenda of greed and dominance – is reflected perfectly in the perpetual battle to de-fund and/or distort education to their ends.

    And as far as foreign workers and the lobbying behind the issuance of H-1B visas? You have once again missed the mark. If “hiring foreigners” and the lobbying for it is your issue? Take it up with Microsoft, Oracle and Intel before you start in on schools that usually don’t have money to lobby for squat other than basic funding.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/02/19/us-workers-usa-idUSTRE51I60N20090219

  13. 13 rafflaw 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Tootie,
    You do realize that their are also private colleges in NH where tuition is not based on state residency, don’t you?

  14. 14 Elaine M. 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:57 am

    rafflaw,

    My daughter attended one of those private colleges in NH.

  15. 15 Gyges 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Encouraging people to come spend money at institutions of higher learning in your state can only lead to bad things.

    Truth be told, I suspect that voter fraud is less an issue and feelings of “outsiders” taking over is the true motivation. From townies up through modern Know Nothings, nativism is alive and well.

  16. 16 rafflaw 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Elaine, two of my daughters graduated from Syracuse which is also a private school and I am pretty sure they were allowed to vote in New York. Much to Tootie’s dismay!

  17. 17 J. Brian Harris, Ph.D., P.E. 1, January 31, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Methinks there is nothing that can be done that is inherently outside the realm of the rule of law.

    Such as with and in The Weimar Republic?

  18. 18 J. Brian Harris, Ph.D., P.E. 1, January 31, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    RE: Buddha Is Laughing, January 31, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Yeah Tootles. All universities are run by leftists. For example, Regents and Bob Jones University and Oral Roberts University and Hillsdale College and all those other schools completely devoid of actual educational content in their mission to spread their conservative ideology which is often out of touch with reality. A good education does in fact foster liberal values…

    ###############################

    Liberal values espoused may not be liberal values in use. What a person says may be starkly contrary to what the person does.

    Some folks conveys to me the most drastic separation between values espoused and in use that I have ever encountered.

    I experience such folks as having a most implausible property.

    As a person whose liberal values espoused and in use are contiguous, and who finds no less value within conservative values as within liberal values, I may have formidable pragmatic experience in sorting out whose speech in words and in actions are not even of a forked tongue, but more like a snake with two heads, at opposite ends, all for tongue ends repudiate what the other three tongue ends express. In such a snake, the mouth of one head is the anus of the opposite head.

    Of course, no such snake actually exists.

    I find that Hillsdale College, Calvin College, and many similar institutions of higher learning provide genuinely excellent education for their students.

    And I find bullying offensive and lacking in what I might guess I might deem civility, were I capable of such guessing.

  19. 19 J. Brian Harris, Ph.D., P.E. 1, January 31, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    RE: Tootie, January 31, 2011 at 11:16 am

    The out of state students are visitors.

    ################################

    Given that I have yet to meet a living person who, having lived longer than eternity, has demonstrated being unable to die, methinks we may all be visitors while living on earth.

    So, if visitors have no rights where they are presently living…?

    Carleton College has a 3-2 plan, three years at Carleton and two at an approved engineering school and bachelors degrees in both liberal arts and in engineering.

    Why disenfranchise people from life before their bodies die?

  20. 20 Stamford Liberal 1, January 31, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Kinda sorta off topic, but relates to education:

    A Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Waste—Except in Ohio

    Kelly Williams-Bolar, an aspiring teacher and mother of two in Ohio, was sentenced Jan. 18 to 10 days in jail and put on three years’ probation after sending her children to school in a district in which they did not live. It began four years ago, when Williams-Bolar registered her daughters for school using her father’s address in a township nearby. She became desperate when her apartment in the projects was burglarized. “When my home got broken into, I felt it was my duty to do something else,” she explained.

    After seven hours of deliberation Jan. 15, a jury convicted Williams-Bolar of two counts of tampering with court records. Williams-Bolar’s father, Edward L. Williams, was also charged with a fourth-degree felony of grand theft, in which the court calculated that the family defrauded the school system of $35,000. Apparently, in Ohio, public education is no longer a right—it is now a form of private property that can be stolen. When Williams-Bolar was unable to pay, she was indicted. She was released early last Thursday.

    Adding insult to injury, it turns out that Williams-Bolar will have to find a new career path as well. “Because of the felony convictions, you will not be allowed to get your teaching degree under Ohio law as it stands today,” the judge said. “The court’s taking into consideration that is also a punishment that you will have to serve.” Williams-Bolar’s attorneys are preparing an appeal.

    As news of Williams-Bolar’s conviction and punishment spread, many were horrified and outraged. Celebrities Danny Glover and Questlove spoke out in support of Williams-Bolar on Twitter and Tumbler, confessing that they’ve done the same thing and aren’t sorry about it. Along with many others, Glover and Questlove think it’s ludicrous that in 2011 someone can be jailed for demanding access to education. Didn’t we just hear the president tell us about the importance of quality education as it relates to the state of our union?

    Clearly, the court is making an example out of Williams-Bolar. Prosecutors agree, saying “punishment or deterrent was needed for other individuals who might think to defraud the various school districts.” Of course, it’s easiest to make an example out of someone when she does not have the resources to fight back; Williams-Bolar is a single mother who struggles to make ends meet. It is likely that the same can be said for her school district, and that is why she chose a school with more resources for her children. In the midst of such a deep recession, it is hard to believe that a single mother such as Williams-Bolar is the real enemy of the state.

    The court’s sharp focus on Williams-Bolar also allows it to ignore the historical and legal inequalities that created this problem in the first place. As the president mentioned in his 2008 “A More Perfect Union” speech, “we do need to remind ourselves that so many of the disparities that exist in the African-American community today can be directly traced to inequalities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered under the brutal legacy of slavery and Jim Crow.” Williams-Bolar needed no reminding of these facts. She realized she needed to take action as a mother, and so she did what she could to ensure her daughters a quality education. This sentence practically guarantees that the social and economic circumstances that drove Williams-Bolar to action will not be resolved. The state of Ohio has effectively robbed her of the opportunity to pull herself up “by the bootstraps,” handing down a life sentence of poverty and underemployment.

    Speaking as an educator, the punitive destruction of this woman’s teaching future is really the most outrageous offense. In this week’s State of the Union address, we heard our president talk about the need for people who recognize the importance of education to become teachers. He said: “Let’s also remember that after parents, the biggest impact on a child’s success comes from the man or woman at the front of the classroom. In South Korea, teachers are known as ‘nation builders.’ Here in America, it’s time we treated the people who educate our children with the same level of respect.”

    The president pleaded on behalf of the teaching profession and focused on the importance of education as the right of every citizen. If nothing else, this case makes clear that Williams-Bolar understands the power of education in creating a brighter future, so much so that she was proactive on behalf of her daughters and intended to repay the state by becoming a teacher herself. Obviously, the state of Ohio disagrees.

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_mind_is_a_terrible_thing_to_wasteexcept_in_ohio_20110129/

  21. 21 Woosty's still a Cat 1, January 31, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    So, the uproar over residency and Rahm Emanuel, wasn’t that exactly the opposite complaint? am I understanding this correctly? Cause motive aside , how can it be 1 way for 1 thing and another way for another…all the while benefitting only 1 party?

  22. 22 rafflaw 1, January 31, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    Stamford,
    I don’t have as big a problem with the Ohio situation because she could have sent her kids to the public school where she lived for no charge. I realize she wanted better schools, but I couldn’t send my kids to New Trier High School in Winnetka when I live in Woodstock. The taxes that I pay here are much different than in Winnetka. I am all for improving education for all, but to allow her to do this would open up the system for chaos.
    One more thing, who or what is “Questlove”? I know I am old and out of touch, but I have never heard of Questlove.

  23. 23 Stamford Liberal 1, January 31, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    rafflaw:

    Don’t get me wrong, I agree with you. My problem is that the article further highlights the inequity running rampant through our education system. Perhaps I’m over-simplifying the issue but I see no use in the voucher system. Why not put the money back into a failing school to make it better, instead of diverting the funds into vouchers?

    LOL – Questlove is the drummer for the hip hop group “The Roots.”

  24. 24 Tootie 1, January 31, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Harris:

    If you come to my house and I don’t invite you then you are definitely not a visitor. I don’t think the people of NH want guests running the show.

    I am about one hundred pages into Atheist Delusions. It is simply amazing. Thanks for the suggestion.

    Got any more?

  25. 25 Tootie 1, January 31, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    rafflaw:

    Nope, I had no idea! The only ones I knew of were Cooper-Union…and…um…I think Berea (or something like that).

    Even so. The students are just visitors.

  26. 26 Tootie 1, January 31, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    rafflaw:

    Here is a link to the state university system. All charge out of state college tuition fees.

    http://www.usnh.edu/institutions/unh.shtml

  27. 27 Spam A Lot 1, January 31, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    This goes out to my sister in pain. I have been burgaled. I hope that the people in Ohio get a clue. Do they still have yellow buses? Maybe one could be dubbed the clue bus. Maybe the wheels will go round and round.

  28. 28 Jill C. 1, January 31, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    I hope it’s ok if I just use my initial. I am Jill still. Jill C. is short for Jill Chavez.

    I feel sorry for the sister in pain. Why would they do that to her? Is she a minority? Chan L. What should she do?

  29. 29 Woosty's still a Cat 1, January 31, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/arizona-birther-bill-deny-obama-reelection

    this is looks like more pot-stirring in the name of self-serving politics…

  30. 30 rafflaw 1, January 31, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Tootie,
    I don’t need the state tuition schedule to know that private schools charge the same for out of state as in state residents. Secondly, the students are not just visitors if they desire to make that their residence. You are always claiming that the leftys are filthy and marxists, but it is you who is telling the students where they can and cannot live.

  31. 31 Stamford Liberal 1, January 31, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    Woosty’s still a Cat:

    I remember when this came up last year and I thought it was a dead issue because state eligibility requirements cannot trump federal eligibility requirements.

    And Arizona wonder’s why most of the country laughs at them. I know my sister is beyond embarrassed to say she lives there.

  32. 32 ishobo 1, January 31, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    @Stamford Liberal
    @rafflaw

    The defense made it clear that the reason for the fraud was neighborhood safety not academic excellence, as her children would be walking from and to the school from her father’s apartment (after she dropped them off and before she picked them up). Furthermore, both her and her father ignored invoices and requests from the district to move her children, once the district found the children were not elligible to attend. That is really the crux of the problem because the district has had other cases of inelligible students, with those parents quickly resolving the matter. She ignored the district for several months before they turned the matter over to the county DA. She had remedies and she chose to worst kind. The children could have actually moved into her father’s home with him becoming their guardian, instead she chose to pretend they lived with him.

  33. 33 Centerist Cynic 1, January 31, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    This law seems to fundamentally take away an adult’s right to choose where they call home. If a student decides their place of residency is the state their college or university is in are we really going to deny them that right?

  34. 34 Tootie 1, January 31, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Centrist:

    A student CAN change residency. You pretend they cannot.

    There are specific laws describing for how to do this in every state. NH has them too. If my kid wanted to establish residency out of state BEFORE attending college we could have done that. But we didn’t and IT WAS OUR CHOICE. We read the laws for establishing residency and decided not to do it.

    This is a no brainer. He voted the whole time while out of state.

  35. 35 Tootie 1, January 31, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    rafflaw:

    You are making up stuff.

    If students don’t take the lawful steps to become residents before they went to college that is their choice. That is not the state’s fault. The state provides legal steps understandable to most intelligent people and incoming students can become citizens is they so choose. If they are too stupid to figure out how to do: better for the state of New Hampshire.

    You pretend something is stopping students from taking the steps provided to become residents.

  36. 36 Elaine M. 1, January 31, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Stamford Liberal,

    I agree with you about school vouchers.

    We’re always going to have failing schools unless we address the societal problems in the areas where there are failing schools. Lots of children come from troubled homes. Lots of children live in districts that are almost like war zones or are ruled by gangs. The children who come from such homes/places bring their problems to school with them.

  37. 37 Tootie 1, January 31, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    A free people do not send children to school at gunpoint.

    I’m past advocating vouchers (been there done that).

    Dismantle the public schools system. Take care of your own kids. Stop shirking your responsibility. If you cannot afford to have kids stop making them.

  38. 38 Stamford Liberal 1, January 31, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Elaine M,

    Well said. Short, sweet and right to the point. Sadly, the mechanisms created to address societal problems are usually the first to get cut under the budget knife.

    Those that decry efforts to aid people in getting out of the vicious cycle see that portion of society as lazy, ungrateful and undeserving. As long as that mindset continues, the light at the end of the tunnel will diminish for those who need help, particularly, ensuring our kids have access to a good education.

  39. 39 eniobob 1, January 31, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Stamford Liberal:
    “Didn’t we just hear the president tell us about the importance of quality education as it relates to the state of our union?”

    I don’t think that Representative Sorg got the memo nor did Senator Rand Paul who wants to shut down the Department Of Education,or my Governor here in New Jersey Christie.

    I keep going back to my old stand by:

    The Dumbing Down of America

    By Manuel Valenzuela

    10/12/06 “Information Clearing House

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15280.htm

  40. 40 Lottakatz 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Absentee ballots are easy to use.

  41. 41 rafflaw 1, January 31, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Tootie,
    With all due respect, dismantling the public education system is a ridiculous idea. We are an exceptional nation and I hope John Boehner sees that we said that. We got to be an exceptional nation because of our education process. How many NASA scientists were educated at public schools in their towns? How many doctors and ministers and yes, even lawyers were well taught in the public school system? Too many to count.
    You have heard of Dr. Jonas Salk who discovered the Polio vaccine and saved millions of children here in the States and around the world from agony and death or a lifetime in braces or worse. How did he get his start? In public schools in New York. People have the freedom to go to private schools if they can afford it, but the public education system is sound. It is not perfect, but it is sound and effective. Just ask any teacher. Just ask a student whose life was changed, improved and altered for the better because of their teacher. I know my life was altered for the better by my High School speech teacher who convinced a hyper kid with a lisp that he could become a lawyer and not be afraid to speak in public. She was right about me when others told me to become a gym teacher or to skip college all together or just laughed as I spit out my words. I am sure glad I met her and that she saw something in me that maybe I didn’t even recognize. Thank God she believed in me at Niles Community High School East in Skokie, Illinois. I just wish the school was still open so that I could visit the halls one more time. If you saw the old movie, “16 Candles” by John Hughes you saw Niles East. A lot of the school scenes were filmed there after it had closed. I guess I got off track a bit, but I could not stand by and let your derogatory comment about the public school system to go unchallenged. Time to get off my soapbox now.

  42. 42 Elaine M. 1, February 1, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Stamford Liberal,

    “Those that decry efforts to aid people in getting out of the vicious cycle see that portion of society as lazy, ungrateful and undeserving.”

    It’s their excuse for not wanting to help those who are poor. Gotta have a reason to ignore those people and their problems. Then they can have a clear conscience because those lazy folks just want to suck off the system. Of course, there’s no such thing as the “working poor.”

  43. 43 Blouise 1, February 1, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Lottakatz
    1, January 31, 2011 at 11:25 pm
    Absentee ballots are easy to use.

    =================================================

    And easy to obtain … local Boards of Election bend over backwards to get those ballots out to students who are at schools out of state

  44. 44 eniobob 1, February 1, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Our Governor never ceases to amaze:

    Education picks reflect Christie’s voucher goals
    Tuesday, February 1, 2011
    BY LESLIE BRODY
    The Record
    STAFF WRITER
    display story on 1 page Page 1 2 >>

    Governor Christie’s four appointments to the state Board of Education reflect his ongoing push to remake New Jersey schools.

    One has been a major donor to pro-voucher groups, one helped start a Brooklyn charter school and one is a prominent developer who says he’ll bring savvy from the business world, where getting results is a matter of “life or death.” Each served on the boards of their children’s private schools and contributed to Christie’s campaign or inauguration.

    http://www.northjersey.com/news/114993019_Education_picks_reflect_Christie_s_voucher_goals.html

  45. 45 Stamford Liberal 1, February 1, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    eniobob:

    ‘The Dumbing Down of America’

    Excellent article and thank you for sharing. Scary, isn’t it?

    —————————————————-

    rafflaw:

    Thank YOU for sharing your story. It’s great!! Sadly in today’s world, teachers like your speech teacher aren’t lauded enough. Everyone’s too busy pointing out what’s wrong with teachers as opposed to what’s right.

    —————————————————-

    Elaine M:

    Exactly!

  46. 46 Quintus Arius 1, February 1, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    So.. how does this New Federalism actually work ? If the state of New Hampshire, or any other state, declares one a resident for purposes of taxation, should they not also consider one a resident for voting in all elections, local as well as national.

    PDF] NEW HAMPSHIREFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat – Quick View
    Guide to State Residency Requirements: Policy and Practice at U.S. … The following information was provided by Keene State College and the … the parent subsequently establishes domicile outside of New Hampshire, the student shall be …

    Evidence of Domicile, Including but not Limited to: In determining if domicile exists, the following evidence is considered – payment/non-payment of any tax levied by the state on its residents; residence reported on any Federal/state tax returns; state of automobile registration; state issuing driver’s license; support in whole or in part from out-of-state parents; state of voter registration; claim by any nonresident parent that the applicant is a dependent; regular departure from New Hampshire during school recesses or vacations; filing of any claims for benefits under any insurance policy or legislation based on residence or domicile outside of New Hampshire; status in some other state which would qualify a person for in-state tuition in that state.

    This is an unusually contentious issue in well known high tax
    jurisdictions such as New York city, where a recent case that turned on the presence of the petitioner on the 184thth day would have meant a potential tax liability of $28 Million.

    If the mayor or congressman wants your money, one should be able to vote in his city or district

    Aftr all… it is how this country was founded, over that
    little taxation without representation dispute.

  47. 47 Lottakatz 1, February 1, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    Quintus Arius, thanks for your posting. It’s a thorny question and a state, whatever its position on the issue may be, should at least have a consistent legal approach to the the matter.

  48. 48 rafflaw 1, February 1, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    Stamford,
    Thanks. It was a story that gave me confidence that I was lacking before I met with the speech teacher.
    Lotta,
    I agree with your take on Quintus Arius’ posting. It reminds me of the 60′s and early 70′s when you could get drafted and die for your country, but you couldn’t vote to change the policy that put you in a war that you didn’t want to be part of.

  49. 49 Blouise 1, February 2, 2011 at 12:28 am

    rafflaw,

    What a marvelous tribute you gave to that special teacher.

    When my youngest daughter was a Sophomore/Junior in High School, she was inducted into the National Honor Society and told she could bring one teacher to the ceremony. Her fellow inductees, as had every inductee before her, brought one of their High School teachers. She invited her fourth grade teacher … the first time in the history of the School system that an elementary teacher had been so honored. In fact, the teacher thought a mistake had been made when she received the invitation and called me so that the error could be corrected. She was literally speechless when I told her that it was not an error.

    The invited teacher is introduced by his/her student and a short speech is given as to why the student chose this teacher. When my daughter rose to make her introduction there was a quiet commotion at the back of the banquet room. I turned to look and saw the entire staff of her elementary school, principal, teachers, secretary, school nurse and janitor filing in and standing quietly at the back of the room. The speech was beautiful and there was not a dry eye in the place. Since that time it is now common to see an elementary, middle or junior high school teacher honored in such a manner.

    My daughter has probably forgotten the name of who won the World Series, or the Acadamy Award, or the Olympic Medal, or the Nobel Peace prize in literature but she will never forget the name of that teacher.

  50. 50 rafflaw 1, February 2, 2011 at 12:37 am

    Blouise,
    Thanks! That was also a wonderful story about your daughter. You are correct about remembering their names. My wife and I were in Madrid a few years back to visit our youngest daughter who was studying there and as we walked down our hotel hallway, a young American girl came out and helped my wife with her suitcase and we talked for a minute or two and she commented that my wife had taught her middle school science back in Illinois several years earlier. My wife remembered her name and what her science project was all about. I was shocked and my wife was flattered that her student from years prior had remembered her. It was a crazy chance meeting far from home, but one my wife will never forget.

  51. 51 Blouise 1, February 2, 2011 at 1:07 am

    Should have been Nobel Prize … not Nobel Peace Prize

  52. 52 Isabel Darcy 1, February 2, 2011 at 8:42 am

    So, what if the NH student goes back to his or her “home town” and the voter registration people won’t recognize the student as a resident for voting purposes? Doesn’t that disenfranchise the student?

    Tootie-I spent 2 years living in Chicago when I did my AM. I wasn’t a “visitor.” I lived in Chicago and had no intention to go back to WI, my “home state.”

  53. 53 Bipolar Chick 1, February 3, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    “Dismantle the public schools system. Take care of your own kids. Stop shirking your responsibility. If you cannot afford to have kids stop making them.”

    The public schools system was established in the 1840s and was a point of national pride. Now you want to gut the public schools because you’ve gutted them so far already that you think they suck and should be gutted more. As fewer and fewer taxes support the public school system, thanks to you, its quality naturally deteriorates down to your shitty, contemptible expectations of what it should be as a public sector institution. Teachers at public schools in the U.S. garner zero respect culturally and are paid like airline pilots; there are better jobs at McDonalds.

  54. 54 buy game goal 1, July 11, 2011 at 3:49 am

    It was dark when I woke. This is a ray of.


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