GOP Senatorial Candidate: God Intended Rape Victims To Get Pregnant

Honestly, what is the problem with rape and Republican candidates this year? First, Rep. Todd Akin loses a lock on a Senate seat by holding forth on “legitimate rape” and how women possess some magic ability to prevent pregnancies by rapists. Now, Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock (who defeated respected Senator Richard Lugar) has proclaimed with only a few weeks to go in the election that the impregnation of women in rape is part of God’s plan. What happened to the good old day when GOP candidates primarily followed a formula campaign based on lower taxes and longer criminal sentences?

Mourdock was asked in the final minutes of his debate with his opponent Joe Donnelly about abortions in cases of rape and proclaimed that when a woman is impregnated during a rape, it is all part of God’s plan — a type of divine family plan via sexual assault. Mourdock proclaimed: “I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that’s something God intended to happen.”

Donnelly promptly after the debate took the position that such pregnancies through rape are not part of what “my God, or any God, would intend that to happen.” Mourdock soon realized that he had pulled an Akin and may have aborted his campaign. He clarified that he did not believe God intended the rape: “Are you trying to suggest somehow that God preordained rape, no I don’t think that. Anyone who would suggest that is just sick and twisted. No, that’s not even close to what I said.” Really? Here is what you said: “I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that’s something God intended to happen.” Sounds a lot like God intended the rape victim to get pregnant. The best that Mourdock could claim is that God did not intend for the rape to occur, but, once it did, decided that it was important for the woman to become pregnant by her rapist.

I am also unclear on why God preordains the pregnancy but not the rape that caused it. This is often a matter of theological debate when people insist that prayer caused God to spare their lives in a tornado but that he decided not to spare the lives of their neighbors or their own home from the tornado. It is the tension that arises from a view that God controls all events as part of a divine plan as opposed to a divine plan that allows free will and/or fate to govern events.

Pat Robertson recently insisted that God does not send tornados but that victims would still have been spared if they prayed more:

However, Robertson does believe that God at times sends natural disasters to punish us as with Hurricane Katrina. That may reflect the more nuanced view of Mourdock that God may not have sent the rapist but did want you to become pregnant by your rapist. The question is whether, if God micromanages such events, did he intend GOP Senatorial campaigns to implode across the country?

Source: Big Story

94 thoughts on “GOP Senatorial Candidate: God Intended Rape Victims To Get Pregnant

  1. It used to be that people who said things like this were considered sad demented fringe elements who needed help but now they are the standard bearers of the Republican Party. Any women who votes for a Republican needs her head examined but won’t be able to afford it because she probably doesn’t have health care but then I guess that is God’s plan too.

  2. Indiana, Indiana, Indiana:
    Where did you get this guy and how did you dumb RepubliCons nominate him to be on the ticket?

  3. “I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that’s something God intended to happen.”
    “I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that’s something that some twisted asshole pretending to be God intended to happen.”


  4. “I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that’s something God intended to happen.”
    “I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that’s something that some twisted #sshole pretending to be God intended to happen.”


  5. These guys need help…. Soon, I hope…. Maybe after wall street raped America everything else is fair game….. Like a kid in a candy store, a hillbilly with moonshine…or a meth head without a lighter…..

  6. So, Mr. Mourdock, does God get off watching the rape happen? Certainly He sees everything and since he intended for the rape to happen, thats much more than just idly sitting by and letting it happen, do you suppose He actually enjoys the show?

    Was He getting His kicks when my SO was jumped, stabbed in the neck for refusing to cooperate, raped & left for dead as she bled out? You sick f*k.

  7. What next–a posse of Republican Congressman wearing pink hoods and armed with ultrasound wands running around the country terrifying women?

    Justice Holmes,

    It is truly sad that fellows like this aren’t considered demented fringe elements in their party these days. Even their vice presidential candidate cosponsored personhood, ultrasound, and “Let Women Die” legislation.
    While some people see no difference between our two major political parties–I certainly do,



    These guys need more than help. They need an exorcism!

  8. Elaine, et al,
    We can only hope the electorate exorcises them with their votes.

    Will Rogers never met these guys or he would have to change his mind.

  9. Elaine:

    not all of us would wear a pink hood nor arm ourselves with ultrasound probes.

    Although I do not consider myself a republican any longer for that reason and others.

    People like this guy really ought to start their own party or maybe he is just really stupid and didnt think about what he was saying. Stupid is less dangerous than actually believing God’s plan for a human being is to be raped.

    I used to go to church with these people and they scare the hell out of me. These people are front pants zipper taliban.

  10. Bron,

    This is not the Republican party that I recall from my earlier years. What’s especially scary is that some of these candidates get elected to office.

  11. Richard Mourdock, misogynist
    Pregnancy after rape is what “God intended,” says the Indiana Republican, showing the real right-to-life movement
    By Irin Carmon

    Dear everyone asking what it is about Republican candidates and their clumsy talk about rape: This is a feature, not a bug.

    The latest entrant into the Republican rape insensitivity bake-off is Indiana Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, who said tonight that “even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.” He, of course, joins fellow Senate candidate Todd Akin, with his now-canonical “legitimate rape” comment, and Rep. Joe Walsh, running for election in Illinois, who claimed there was no reason a woman would ever need an abortion to save her life or preserve her health. The trailblazer was tea party candidate Sharron Angle, who failed to unseat Harry Reid in Nevada two years ago, and famously said that if a hypothetical teenager was raped and impregnated by her father, it was an opportunity to turn “a lemon situation into lemonade.”

    Here’s why this is happening: The newer crop of Republican candidates and elected officials, are, more often than not, straight from the base. They’re less polished than their predecessors; they’re more ideologically pure. As a result, they’ve accidentally been letting the mask slip and showing what’s really at the core of the right-to-life movement.

    For years, the movement has fought plausible charges that it is anti-woman by repackaging its abortion restrictions, in Orwellian fashion, as protections for women. They’ve done it so successfully that until recently, when so many alleged “gaffes” went viral, no one really noticed. What is the so-called Women’s Health Defense Act? A proposed ban on abortion before viability. What are “informed consent” laws purporting to give women all the information they need before having abortions? Forced ultrasounds, transvaginal, and some of them involving the forced viewing of the ultrasound, at the woman’s expense, under the stated supposition that she has no idea what’s growing inside her unless someone makes her look. (Never mind that 60 percent of women who have abortions have already given birth at least once.)

    Where does rape come into this? If you doubt that the abortion obsession in this country is about sex more than it is about “babies,” just look to all this agonized public parsing about “legitimate rape” and “forcible rape.” Americans are, at least in theory, sensitive to survivors of rape, whose bodies have been cruelly used against their will, and they see a forced pregnancy as further suffering. The corollary, of course, is that pregnancy is the just punishment for consensual sex, or, if you think an embryo or fetus is the same as a person, that rape justifies capital punishment. But most people don’t think in those consistent absolutes, which is the reason that the antiabortion movement has sometimes conceded to rape exceptions, as Mitt Romney has — they’re willing to suffer them, occasionally, as a sort of gateway drug towards stigmatizing and marginalizing all abortion.

  12. Elaine says, “This is not the Republican party that I recall from my earlier years.”

    That Eisenhower would be ashamed is without question. The GOP of today is so chock full o’ extremists and nutbags, it’d even embarrass Nixon and was a criminal. I really feel sorry for moderate and centrist conservatives. Liberals at least have a totally corrupt and spineless option that doesn’t represent them in the DNC. The rational conservatives don’t even have that pretense of representation any more.

  13. Bron

    “…People like this guy really ought to start their own party …”

    I dare say they did. They began with infecting the GOP in the 1980s with the Moral Majority and the GOP sold their soul for votes. Then they started the teabagger party and ultimately they took over the GOP. These guys and their views ARE the Republican Party now. It would appear at this point that peoeple who used to indentify with the old Republican Party have three choices. They can either join the now more moderate, less Progressive (to the chagrin of some of us) Democratic Party which is much closer to the old East Coast GOP thinking, form a new party or overtly reject these John Birchers and their religion-based fringe as not in line with American views.

  14. “This is often a matter of theological debate when people insist that prayer caused God to spare their lives in a tornado but that he decided not to spare the lives of their neighbors or their own home from the tornado. ”


    Giving rise to the even more thorny theological question: What if God decides it’s time for my seatmate on the 747 to meet his maker as we’re flying over Dubuque and he’s in perfect health?

    Not sure even 20 novenas is going to help me.

    Ah, those angels on the head of a pin.

  15. I believe that the phrase: “pull an Akin” ought to be part of our lexicon on this blog. It should be used in these instances when “went in dumb, come out dumb too” characters run for office and then Pontificate on issues concerning pregnancy and women’s rights to their own privacy and bodies. Especially when the dumbschmuck (that is one word) invokes God. If they dont invoke God it can still be “an Akin”. What do you all think?

  16. rcampbell:

    part of the problem for people like me is economics. The democratic party is pretty good on civil liberties but not so good on economics [my view]. The republican party isnt so good on some civil liberties and is just marginally better than democrats on economics [again my view].

  17. Akin may be on to something. If a republican screws with your mind it shuts down and will not conceive a rational thought.

  18. As fairly conservative, religious person who has voted Republican most of my life this type of rhetoric from Republicans just disgusts me as I shake my head and sigh. Not sure where I’m going to land but find myself being drawn to more Libertarian ideals the past couple of years.

  19. Written before reading comments:

    “The question is whether, if God micromanages such events, did he intend GOP Senatorial campaigns to implode across the country?”

    How about giving brains to candidates?

  20. Global Gender Gap Report 2012: The Best And Worst Countries For Women
    The Huffington Post
    Posted: 10/24/20

    Gender equality has been more of a national focus than usual in the United States over the past few months, thanks to the 2012 presidential election. Republican nominee Mitt Romney recently discussed the “binders full of women” that he tried to hire when he was governor of Massachusetts, and President Barack Obama touched upon the importance of “protecting women’s rights” around the world during the third and final presidential debate Monday.

    But how does the United States stack up against other countries when it comes to said gender equality? According to the 2012 Global Gender Gap Report, released on October 23rd by the World Economic Forum, we’re only 22nd best.

  21. “Elaine M.
    1, October 24, 2012 at 8:16 am

    This is not the Republican party that I recall from my earlier years. What’s especially scary is that some of these candidates get elected to office.”

    You are pretty hep on these questions:
    What do we call this? Advanced propaganda?

    Can we suppose that many of the electorate might support him on Republican grounds? And that some will on his main message grounds? And that SOME will catch the code words like “God intended…”?

    And this guy was stupid in using two extra code words which were given attention by two fractions, those being rape and pregnancy.

    Fire the scriptwriter—-won’t save the election I hope.

  22. Waiting to see if Romney flips on his endorsement of Mr. Mourdock. He flip flops on everything else so why not?

  23. Ending Rape Illiteracy
    Jessica Valenti
    October 23, 2012

    This week, a DC-based feminist group projected the phrase “rape is rape” onto the US Capitol building. The action was meant to highlight survivors’ stories and bring attention to the way rape is often mischaracterized. The sentiment may seem an obvious one—who doesn’t understand what rape is?—but the message, sadly, is much needed. It was only this January that the FBI updated its archaic definition of rape, male politicians’ “gaffes” about rape have become par for the course, and victim-blaming in the culture and courts runs rampant.

    Feminists have done a lot to change policies, but not enough to change minds. Despite decades of activism on sexual assault—despite common sense, even—there is still widespread ignorance about what rape is, and this absence of a widely understood and culturally accepted definition of sexual assault is one of the biggest hurdles we have in chipping away at rape culture.

    When Todd Akin uttered his now-famous line that women rarely get pregnant from “legitimate rape,” he didn’t misspeak. This was something he thought was true—both the bizarre logic about pregnancy and the idea that there is such a thing as a rape that isn’t legitimate. Last year, Wisconsin state representative Roger Rivard told a newspaper reporter that “some girls rape easy.” Now under fire, Rivard attempted to clarify his comments, claiming they were taken out of context.

    What the whole genesis of it was, it was advice to me [from my father], telling me, “If you’re going to go down that road, you may have consensual sex that night and then the next morning it may be rape.” So the way he said it was, “Just remember, Roger, some girls, they rape so easy. It may be rape the next morning.”

    Rivard obviously thought this explanation would lessen the damage of his original statement; he assumed his belief that women regularly lie about being raped was a commonly held one. What’s depressing is that he’s probably right.

    To too many people, “rape” and “rape victim” are not accurate descriptors but political shorthand—the product of an overblown, politically correct interpretation of sex. As Tennessee Senator Douglas Henry said in 2008, “Rape, ladies and gentlemen, is not today what rape was. Rape, when I was learning these things, was the violation of a chaste woman, against her will, by some party not her spouse.”

    If you’re married, you’ve contractually agreed to be available for sex whether or not you want to. If you’re a woman of color, you must be a liar. If you don’t have as much money as your attacker, you’re just looking for a payday. If you’re in college, you shouldn’t want to ruin your poor young rapist’s life. If you’re a sex worker, it wasn’t rape it was just “theft of services.” If you said yes at first but changed your mind, tough luck. If you’ve had sex before, you must say yes to everyone. If you were drinking you should have known better. If you were wearing a short skirt what did you expect?

    The definition of who is a rape victim has been whittled down by racism, misogyny, classism and the pervasive wink-wink-nudge-nudge belief that all women really want to be forced anyway. The assumption is that women are, by default, desirous of sex unless they explicitly state otherwise. And women don’t just have to prove that we said no, but that we screamed it.

    Recently the Connecticut State Supreme Court overturned a sexual assault conviction for a man who attacked a woman with severe cerebral palsy. The woman cannot communicate verbally, and according to the court’s documents, has the “intellectual functional equivalent of a 3-year-old.” Still, because of how the state defines rape in cases of physical incapacitation, the court decided that the victim was capable of “biting, kicking, scratching, screeching, groaning or gesturing,” and therefore could have communicated a lack of consent and didn’t. Basically, she didn’t fight back hard enough in order for what happened to her to be considered rape.

  24. Elaine,
    I know it won’t work with the song, but it is sick Indiana, sick Indiana if they vote this creep into the Senate. Someone hinted at it earlier when they referred to the zipper taliban. This guy is the head of the American Taliban that has infected the Republican Party.

  25. It’s god’s will is code for I’m not responsible for my behavior, it’s all god’s plan. btw, if everything is god’s plan, why do we need cops, courts and jails.\? everything is justified.

  26. It never ceases to amaze me how “God is all-powerful” but also “isn’t” when it is inconvenient to someone’s beliefs (or political stance) on a particular subject: “God abhors homosexuality so He gave AIDS to gays.” “God abhors violence, especially sexual violence, but makes raped women pregnant because ‘all life’ is precious to Him.” (except the woman’s?) The God Card can be counted on to act like the Shadow to “cloud men’s [sic] minds.”

  27. that is so funny!
    did you know that the churches preach that GOD is a republican and all republicans claim different churches and deny MY existence. yet the different churches say that a PROPHET WILL COME, AND SEND IN HIS HAIR TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES FOR DNA TESTING. (you all have been told JESUS is MY SON)

    THE BIBLE says that GOD KNOWS. HE gave you free will. like the bears in the woods, or a gators in the bayou. they have free will also. if they are hungry you are going to die, or give you a good story to tell if you get home. so stay out of the woods, and bayous, or in this case church. the churches are the antichrist. they are forcing their mark upon you. a just GOD said in THE BIBLE that you are loved and WE don’t care if you choose to go to hell, and you get to make the choice. billy graham will go to hell along with his every child ever born.

    you were given a SOUL at birth not conception. the politicians deny this was said.

    JESUS talked about born again. the apostles screwed this up and man kept the wrong things in history hence GOD will tell in person and with HIS OWN mouth. THE BIBLE says that one man will be the king, and the mountains and people will bow down to HIM.

    I said on other websites not to vote republican because I am not a republican like the religious television shows tell you. and that the television stations and religious radio stations are forcing themselves upon the world and denying GOD like THE BIBLE said they would. are they trying to find a middle ground from GOD when it is written you go to purgatory or hell.

    the cops, and courts in every religion in the world therefor speak against GOD and the world will give you the wrong laws.

    THE BIBLE said that the christian theologians were supposed to hang them selves to show their faith in GOD for a reason when JESUS came again, and that you will not know HIM (JESUS) when HE comes again.

    and darwin was a brilliant man. look what you learned about evolution. I don’t recommend putting a t-rex on any spaceship and flying its dna across the universe but your primordial soup is the same as t-rexs even after the asteroid almost made everything extinct. GOD made everything from nothing means that you don’t go out and build a spaceship and load it with gators and bears and take off and not tell your parents what your doing in the backyard. at the same time you have to give your children some good incentives to be creative so they develop the free will to learn and explore, and not tell their parents.
    parents guide children even if the parents are misguided. there are to many false masters about religions teaching they know GOD and saying such lies to parents from the clerics, and the governments condone it.

    I told the u.s. congress to go home and listen. the congress said they know more about GOD from their clerics, just like every religion.

    just so you know MY SON was born in the same town that l.z. granderson seems to live.
    if they tell you life begins at conception that would be wrong. life should have began in different bodies over 65 million years ago as sperm and eggs that are wasted every day. wouldn’t you like to see any president answer this one.”GOD said that abortion will be legal every where”.

    just look to the Georgia Guide Stones. you were told WHO put them up.

  28. I urge all candidates to stop the divisive rhetoric and to adopt the compromise position that all women rapists should receive free abortions. It’s the only win-win solution, and it’s already covered by Obamneycare.

  29. The Trouble with Richard Mourdock Is Not His Alone
    By Charles P. Pierce

    By now, the attempts by Republican senatorial candidate Richard Mourdock to read the mind of the Whoever on the topic of rape have gone around the world twice before common sense and common decency have gotten their boots on.

    “I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize life is that gift from God… And I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”

    God works in mysterious ways and, apparently, one of them is Japanese bondage porn.

    There are two reactions that I do not want to hear. The first is that, no matter what we think of what Mourdock said, we should just congratulate him for being “honest” — or, second, and worse, “principled.” I do not want to hear either of those unless they are accompanied by a statement that Mourdock’s idiocy is close to the mainstream of Republican thinking on the subject of abortion, which it is. (It is precisely the position maintained in the Republican platform, which did away with the exception for rape and incest with much fanfare down in Tampa.) Which leads us to the second thing I don’t want to hear.

    Willard Romney’s “distancing” himself from his previous endorsement of Mourdock.

    In a statement released Tuesday night, Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul said Mourdock’s remarks were not in line with Romney’s views. “Gov. Romney disagrees with Richard Mourdock’s comments, and they do not reflect his views,” Saul said.

    Mourdock didn’t come to these views over the weekend. He held them when he announced. He held them when he beat Richard Lugar in the Republican primary. He held them when he was up in the polls over Joe Donnelly. And he held them before, during, and after Romney endorsed him. And the way I know this is that, a) Romney has yet to unendorse him and that, b) the Republican senate campaign hierarchy is still behind Mourdock and what he believes.

    Mourdock did receive support Wednesday morning from a key Republican leader — Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. “In fact, rather than condemning him for his position, as some in his party have when it’s come to Republicans, I commend Congressman Donnelly for his support of life,'” Cornyn said.

    Tell me again that I don’t have to worry about Romney’s having two or three Supreme Court appointments to make, or about a Senate full of Richard Mourdocks passing judgment on them.

  30. This is Small Government, a la Republicans.

    Small Government, no regulations, for Corporations and the Royalty.

    Big, intrusive Government, in league with Religion, for the serfs.

  31. A small notice to correct what might be a great misunderstanding as to my position on women and sex.
    I have at times spoken with, in your ears, undue emphasis on the fabled sexual freedom of Swedish women. And even claimed tbat in my opinion that it is not unique to Sweden, but earthwide.

    I have meant full respect to women in these matters.

    However, the article “Ending Rape Illiteracy” posted by ElaineM, points out (American?) attitudes which could give another tone to my cooments than those I inteded.

    A woman’s consent, up to and including the intercourse in no way grants me any future privileges.
    Nor does it demean her in my eyes. Never.

    My simple recogniition, made many decades ago, was that women are people, equal in all rights to men. Given that, all else falls easily to hand in dealing with them.

    And to those who can’t accept them as equals, they have my full disdain and opposition.

    Just so you know where I stand.

  32. Gene H, you said, ” I really feel sorry for moderate and centrist conservatives.”

    I don’t. Where have they been all these years when they should have been keeping the lunatic fringe from taking over? They’ve been out making money off not only the lunatic fringe but the rest of the country; they do not care what has happened to the Republican Party. Perhaps a tiny percentage do, and feel sorry for them if you want to, but my sympathy is in short supply and I’ll spend it on the VICTIMS of the wacko larcenous lying thieving misogynist monsters “taking over the world,” not a few of their quiet little timid possibly less ignorant and perhaps less stupid colleagues who wished they wouldn’t be so VOCAL about their reprehensible, shameless, fascist beliefs. :-( :!:

  33. Mourdock Refuses To Apologize For Claiming Rape Pregnancies Are A ‘Gift From God’
    By Igor Volsky on Oct 24, 2012

    U.S. Senate candidate Richard Mourdock (R-IN) refused to apologize for suggesting that pregnancies that result from rapes are a “gift from God,” during a press conference on Wednesday morning. Instead, he doubled down, claiming that while God would not condone rape, life that results from the violent act is a gift: “Life is precious, I believe it is a gift from God, I believe that God would never want anyone harmed, sexually abused, raped.”

  34. Bron, You might want to take a look at some results rather than the rhetoric. The Republicans talk about smaller government, but the government has grown more under R than D. The Republicans talk about the deficit, but the deficit grows a great deal more under the R than the D. Under the issues of smaller government, reducing the deficit, and less regulations, it is the R that want to regulate medicare from the legislature rather than the doctor’s office and they want to spend way more on the military and make more wars. They are completely irresponsible.

    In a similar vein, the war on women is all about power over and control of women. Since the introduction of the pill, legal (safe) abortion, and the women’s movement of the 70s, women have been taking more control over their own destinies. They are demanding equity in the work place, in the home, and in society. And can you believe it, they even want to be in Congress in numbers that reflect their numbers in the population. They actually expect their partners to carry a full share of the child care and the home care. The nerve!

    This is a bitter pill for men who have been listening to preachers tell them that they are the rulers, the ones in charge. They are the ones the women are to bow to as the authority. The barefoot and pregnant attitudes are still out there, alive and well. (I heard it from a pastor’s wife last week.) This is the attitude that is espoused by the Republican neanderthals. The war on women is real. It’s purpose is put all women back in their homes taking care of the men. The only women who are to be out and about are those who serve them in the workplace getting their coffee and whatever. They want to return to the 50’s.

    Been there, done that, let’s move on to the 21st century.

  35. The system is built upon rape, various kinds. The detritus of all the rapes is what amounts to “God’s Gift to Women.”

    We are expected not to look a gift horse in the mouth.

    Can’t trust women; they keep doing that when they shouldn’t. Problem.

  36. Certain small birds of female gender can successfully eject the semen, which remains encased in a ball after ejaculation. Thus the bird if raped, or for other reasons decides not to conceive with the male, then she can.

    The young ladies in my evening course in evolutionary biology greeted the news with obvious smiles of approval.

    What would Akin et al think of this capability for women?

    Next development? Sharp vaginal teeth? Built-in tazers?

  37. Mourdock is simply a dumb-a55 who worships at the patriarchal altar where all sperm is sacred. ALL sperm is sacred. Women are not allowed to reject it, kill it, evade it, or interfere with its ultimate victory and control of the universe. Sperm is Sacred. So if some rapist gives you his sperm, even if you don’t like the SOURCE of that sacred sperm, you’re not allowed to diss the sacred sperm itself! It’s a gift from the very ORIGINATOR of ALL sacred sperm. Got it?

  38. Malisha,

    If men realized how close they are to being replaced by a gene extraction process from one woman donator to another then they might shut up and not provocate women.

    Producing and adding the “male” chromosome is an easy task, it is the simplest of ALL chromosomes. See it in any standared text.

    So shape up guys, you are not needed to heterogenize the gene pool.

    And these are facts, not hyperbole.

  39. Richard Mourdock Backed By GOP Leaders Mitch McConnell, John McCain After Rape Remarks
    by Michael McAuliff

    WASHINGTON — After initially keeping Richard Mourdock at arm’s length for his assertion that pregnancies produced by rape are intended by God, prominent Republicans rallied around the embattled Indiana Senate candidate.

    Top among them was Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), whose chances of taking over the Senate next year could be sunk by Mourdock’s intemperate remarks.

    “It’s incredibly irresponsible for anyone to take what Richard said about his views on life to demean his opposition to the detestable act of rape,” McConnell said in a statement printed in Kentucky’s Courier-Journal.

    “We’re at the end of an election season here and I understand each side is looking to make hay out of every comment, but sharing the view of millions of Americans that life begins at conception is Richard’s deeply held personal belief that shouldn’t be misconstrued by partisans to imply something it does not,” McConnell said in the statement released late Wednesday.

    In a debate on Tuesday, Mourdock had declared, “I came to realize life is that gift from God. I think that even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”

    Mourdock later sought to clarify that he meant only that the baby’s life was a holy gift, not that God intended women to be raped. The Indiana state treasurer apologized for how people had interpreted his words and specified that he was not apologizing for the sentiments themselves.

    Perhaps more startling than McConnell’s support was Sen. John McCain’s announcement. The Arizona Republican, who had withdrawn his backing of Mourdock Wednesday night, backtracked Thursday in a statement from his office that said McCain was satisfied with the “apology.”

  40. Elaine/raff,

    McCain was the last member of the GOP I had any respect for but he burned that bridge for good some time ago. Somewhere around the “it’s not really torture when we do it” phase of his career and his decision to agree with his handlers about brining the Lipstick Pitbull into his circle. His stand in backing the Bush administration on torture was simply ethically unconscionable but especially given his experiences as a POW and the Palin decision showed that his judgement was garbage.

    That McConnell is a total weasel and has been since day one is simply obvious to anyone who knows anything about him and his public “service”.

  41. OS,

    Yeah, it’s not for the faint of heart or victims of sexual assault, but holy crap I couldn’t help but laugh all the way through it. The worst part of the letter? I didn’t think of it first. First class sarcasm. Well done, Mr. Scalzi.

  42. The best that Mourdock could claim is that God did not intend for the rape to occur, but, once it did, decided that it was important for the woman to become pregnant by her rapist.
    – JT

    Geez. That’s just as bad.

    Why can’t we just be honest and admit that we have no idea what God’s intentions are.

  43. Paul Ryan Said Something That Should Force Him Off the Ticket, But You Probably Didn’t Hear About It
    By Paul Slansky

    Last week, Paul Ryan gave an interview in which, defending his position that there should be no excuses for abortion, he referred to rape as a “method of conception.”

    Wow, right? Talk about a benign euphemism. Rape — RAPE! — is now a “method of conception.” You know, like love-making, just without the love.

    There could be no greater testament to the utter abdication of responsibility by what passes for a “news” media in America in 2012 than that, despite the grotesquerie of this cavalierly callous comment, chances are better than good that this is the first you’re hearing of it.

  44. GOP candidates’ rape comments insult women
    Published: Thursday, October 25, 2012, 12:29 AM
    By Patriot-News Editorial Board

    We constantly hear how important women voters are in this year’s election. You wouldn’t know it, however, by the appalling comments being made by some Republican candidates.

    Since August, two candidates for U.S. Senate and one for U.S. House have talked about rape in terms that make us wonder if they really understand what sexual assault is. Their words are highly insulting to victims and also show the alarming limitations they want to place on women’s health decisions.

    That these candidates have not been aggressively called out for their comments by leaders in their own party is disappointing. Instead, they are treated as though they merely voice an opinion, as if sexual assault is just another policy issue.

    It is hard to call what U.S. Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri said in August some sort of opposing viewpoint when he was asked whether women who are raped should be able to get an abortion: “First of all, from what I understand from doctors, [pregnancy from rape] is really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

    That same month, Tom Smith, GOP candidate for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania, was asked a similar question: “I lived something similar to that with my own family. She chose life, and I commend her for that. She knew my views. … She chose the way I thought. Don’t get me wrong; it wasn’t rape. [It was] having a baby out of wedlock.”

    When asked by a reporter if having a baby outside of marriage was similar to rape, he responded. “Well, put yourself in a father’s position. Yes, I mean it is similar.”

  45. Ann Coulter prompts me to imitate her opinion-servings on 9/11 widows (or was it Iraq widows—widow widow on the pall, whichever will do.)

    The widows march around the nation bearing their husbands coffins in an unseemly display, according to Coulter.

    And McCain had the balls to campaign raising his torture broken arms as proof of his qualification to be President. Equally unseemly, and a lie besides.

  46. GOP’s insane rape remarks aren’t outliers
    Richard Mourdock and Todd Akin are representative of their party’s increasingly deranged platform

    With all of the excitement attending the recent comments of Richard Mourdock, the Indiana Republican candidate for U.S. Senate, that a pregnancy conceived in rape is “a gift from God,” much of the political class is shaking its collective head at the refusal of presidential candidate Mitt Romney to revoke his endorsement of Mourdock — or at least to pull his endorsement ad for the former state treasurer from the Hoosier state airwaves. What they’ve missed is the fact that, in the Republican Party of today, Mourdock’s position is the new normal.

    Even Romney’s running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan, held a no-exceptions abortion stance — at least until Romney, who would allow exceptions for rape and incest, elevated him to the national ticket. As reported by TPM:

    “I’m very proud of my pro-life record,” Ryan told WJHL-TV in Virginia in an interview aired Thursday. “I’ve always adopted the idea, the position, that the method of conception doesn’t change the definition of life.”

    Nearly all of the Republican presidential primary candidates take the same position: that a rape-induced pregnancy is the will of the Creator — and they signed a pledge in Iowa that said as much. Of the 33 Republicans running for U.S. Senate this cycle, all but three are anti-abortion, and among them, at least nine oppose any exceptions in cases of pregnancy by rape and incest. (That the incest portion of this position has gotten little attention is even more troubling: Should an 11-year-old-girl really be required to bear her father a child?)

    Against some stiff odds, the Republican Party is smelling winds of change that would render it control of the upper chamber this year, which would require a net gain of four seats. Romney doesn’t dare risk harming a single candidate — or his own chances of winning the votes of religious-righters — which he could if he withdrew his support from any of them.

    The party’s cruel platform

    If you still have any doubts, just look at the abortion plank in the Republican Party Platform, as reported by the Associated Press:

    The party states that “the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed.”

    Note the lack of any exceptions.

    With the takeover of the G.O.P by the religious right, beginning in 1976, the party’s position on abortion has been on a slow and steady march toward deepening misogyny. Women are to be punished not just for choosing to have sex, but for being sexual beings at all — for having vaginas, if you will.

  47. “The real Republican rape platform”

    “It’s no accident GOP candidates can’t stop talking about rape: the party view is women are mere vessels subject to men’s will”

    by Jill Filipovic, Thursday 25 October 2012 12.30 BS

    “Dear GOP candidates and party members,

    I’m going to give you some free campaign advice: stop talking about rape.

    The latest Republican rape commentary comes from Romney-endorsed Indiana senatorial candidate Richard Mourdock, who tells us:

    “I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”

    Cue outrage, then cue “apology” from Mourdock – not for his comments, but for “any interpretation other than what I intended”. National Republican senatorial committee chairman John Cornyn voiced his support for Mourdock and added that he also believes “life is a gift from God.”

    I would hate for Mr Mourdock to think I’m misinterpreting him here, so let’s be clear about what he said: he did not say that rape is a gift from God. He did say that an unwanted pregnancy is a post-rape goodie bag from the Lord. And that the Lord intended it to happen that way.

    Perhaps God should rethink his delivery system. And perhaps Mourdock should rethink his interpretation of divine will.

    What this umpteenth rape comment tells us isn’t that the Republican party has a handful of unhinged members who sometimes flub their talking points. It reveals the real agendas and beliefs of the GOP as a whole.

    These incidents aren’t isolated, and they aren’t rare. Sharron Angle, who ran for a US Senate seat out of Nevada, said she would tell a young girl wanting an abortion after being raped and impregnated by her father that “two wrongs don’t make a right” and that she should make a “lemon situation into lemonade”. Todd Akin said victims of “legitimate rape” don’t get pregnant – an especially confusing talking point, if God is giving rape victims the gift of pregnancy. Maybe God only gives that gift to victims of illegitimate rape?

    Wisconsin state representative Roger Rivard asserted:

    “Some girls rape easy.”

    Douglas Henry, a Tennessee state senator, told his colleagues:

    “Rape, ladies and gentlemen, is not today what rape was. Rape, when I was learning these things, was the violation of a chaste woman, against her will, by some party not her spouse.”

    Republican activist Phyllis Schlafly declared that marital rape doesn’t exist, because when you get married you sign up to be sexually available to your husband at all times. And when asked a few years back about what kind of rape victim should be allowed to have an abortion, South Dakota Republican Bill Napoli answered:

    “A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life.”

    Rape lemonade. Legitimate rape. The sodomized virgin exception. A rape gift from God.

    Some Republicans, like Mitt Romney, have tried to distance themselves from their party’s rhetorical obsession with sexual violation. What they’re hoping we won’t notice is the fact that their party is politically committed to sexual violation.

    Opposition to abortion in all cases – rape, incest, even to save the pregnant woman’s life or health – is written into the Republican party platform. Realizing they can’t make abortion illegal overnight, conservatives instead rally around smaller initiatives like mandatory waiting periods, transvaginal ultrasounds and mandated lectures about “life” to make abortion as expensive, difficult and humiliating as possible.

    Republicans bow to the demands of “pro-life” organizations, not a single one of which supports even birth control, and the GOP now routinely opposes any effort to make birth control or sexual education available and accessible. They propose laws that would require women to tell their employers what they’re using birth control for, so that employers could determine which women don’t deserve coverage (the slutty ones who use birth control to avoid unwanted pregnancy) and which women do (the OK ones who use it for other medical reasons).

    Mainstream GOP leaders, including Mitt Romney, campaign with conservative activists who lament the fact that women today no longer fully submit to the authority of their husbands and fathers, mourn a better time when you could legally beat your wife, and celebrate the laws of places like Saudi Arabia where men are properly in charge. Senate Republicans, including Republican vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan and “legitimate rape” Todd Akin, blocked the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act. And Ryan and Akin joined forces again to propose “personhood” legislation in Washington, DC that would define a fertilized egg as a person from the moment sperm meets egg, outlawing abortion in all cases and many forms of contraception, and raising some serious questions about how, exactly, such a law would be enforced.

    Underlying the Republican rape comments and actual Republican political goals are a few fundamental convictions: first, women are vessels for childbearing and care-taking; second, women cannot be trusted; and third, women are the property of men.

    Mourdock’s statement that conceiving from rape is a gift positions women as receptacles, not as autonomous human beings. This view of women as vessels – vessels for sex with their husbands, vessels for carrying a pregnancy, vessels for God’s plan – is a necessary component of the kind of extreme anti-abortion legislation most Republican politicians support.

    So is the idea that women are both fundamentally unintelligent and dishonest. Akin’s “legitimate rape” comment and Rivard’s contention that “some girls rape easy” rely on the idea that women routinely lie about rape and shouldn’t be believed; blocking VAWA relied partly on similar logic put forward by men’s rights activists, that women lie about being abused in order to secure citizenship and other benefits. Hostility to abortion rights similarly positions rightwing lawmakers as the best people to determine whether or not any particular woman should be legally compelled to carry a pregnancy to term.

    Women, they seem to think, don’t know their own bodies or their own lives, and cannot be trusted to determine for themselves whether continuing a pregnancy is a good idea.

    Rape treats women as vessels, disregarding our autonomy and our right to control what happens to us physically and sexually. The Republican position is that women are not entitled to make fundamental decisions about our own bodies and our own sexual and reproductive health. When that position is written into the GOP platform and is a legislative priority, can we really be surprised when it’s further reflected in Republican legislators’ comments on rape?

    These aren’t a few errant remarks from insensitive politicians. They’re at the heart of the Republican party’s agenda.”

  48. Lt. Aldo Raine: [to Wicki] Ask him what he is gonna do with his uniform when he gets home.
    Pvt. Butz: [through an interperter] Not only do I intend to take off my uniform, I intend to burn it.
    Lt. Aldo Raine: Nah, see, we don’t like that. We like our Nazis in uniform. That way we can spot ’em just like that. We’re gonna give you a little something you can’t take off.


    I say let them talk about rape all they like.

    That way we can spot ’em just like that.

  49. Here’s a website for you: Republicans for Rape:

    Below is the list of thirty legislators who were brave enough to stand up in defense of rape and vote against Senator Al Franken’s anti-rape amendment to the 2010 Defense Appropriations bill. We applaud these courageous men! Roll over the portraits with your mouse to see the Senator’s phone number, or click on a portrait to visit the Senator’s contact page. We encourage you to send your kind words to these gentlemen!

  50. OS, Cruz in Texas is on the list. He is just coming into the government as the replacement for Kay Hutchinson. The republicans here are still getting worse.

  51. Gene,
    great scene from a wild movie! You are right that we can see them coming when they make outrageous statements like this.
    Love the rape advisory chart!

  52. Elaine M, OMG, an astonishing coincidence occurred! Every single one of the pro-rape legislators looks exactly like a white man! They even all kinda look alike! They look like…like…well… :twisted:

  53. I say let them talk about rape all they like.

    That way we can spot ‘em just like that. -Gene H.

    They won’t stop talking about it — they can’t help themselves.

  54. You know, what “God intended” has nothing to do with our government and if we have senators who are voting in our legislature to legally back up God’s intentions, they all have conflicts of interest. YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS. Book of Matthew VI:24.

    Legislators voting the will of their Gods rather than their constituents must be removed from office. We could see this so easily if we weren’t constantly being confused by their blah-blah-blah. When we hear, “God intended it” from a legislator, our immediate response should be: “Irrelevant, Immaterial and Incompetent!” This guy is not just an amusing bozo; he’s an infiltrator.

  55. God doesn’t send tornadoes? Air masses “sporn tornadoes”?

    Wait, wait. God sends “tournedoes.” If you make them with beef, they’re delicious but lots of calories. But God sends them, yes indeed. Probably what happened was that people were hungry, they prayed for tournedoes, and they had speech defects (not sent by God!), and God thought they were praying for tornadoes. DON’T be UNGODLY and build your house in a place apt to get confused about what’s for dinner. Dummy. OK?

    OMG OMG OMG HELP ME! Somebody got the recipe wrong and…owwwwwwwwww…

  56. pat robertson also said that GOD is a republican. that’s impossible! GOD would have to be a man wouldn’t HE. the antichrist say that I am a nut job. so I must have THE SON.

    the clergy votes against GOD and censors GOD on other sites.

    they claim that GOD will destroy the world and they won’t tell you why. do you think I want to hear a lot more empty prayers from people that are going to hell. pat tells you I do.

    JESUS said that when HE comes again HE would be the true SON OF GOD. there is only one way that that is possible, and was done. Just think, the place of the Immaculate Conception should be known by now but the anticrist says to destroy everything I’VE made. so if some body got the wrong recipe they did it not get from ME.

    do you know that some people love to see people kneel in front of them. just look what it did to benny hinn, and billy graham, who payed people to start to come down from their seats. you don’t know exactly where I am for that reason even though The BIBLE says to kneel before GOD.

    some wives of clergy will actually smile when they see the congregation kneel in front of their husbands.

    I don’t go to the presidents, they will come to ME like The BIBLE says. so let them go to the anticrist on sunday. they ask for help from the antichrist. the antichrist will force there mark upon you. I don’t care! they chose to claim to serve GOD and they can’t. for some reason they are serving JESUS. GOD said, thou shall have no other Gods before ME! a simple recipe, don’t you think? I am not trying to impress anybody with MY Name, which is The Living God. I would be known by many names, but to set the record straight, means that there are still going to be tornadoes that will eat you up.

    did you know that just a few years ago they used to teach that sickness would be cured by Jesus. all antichrist had different versions of the story depending on the antichrist preference of the antichrist.

    so it’s friday, and hauf brau time, so have a good night.

  57. I think everything wrote made a bunch of sense. However, what about this?
    what if you were to create a killer headline? I ain’t saying your content isn’t solid, but suppose you added a title that makes people want more?

    I mean GOP Senatorial Candidate: God Intended Rape Victims To Get Pregnant | JONATHAN TURLEY is a little vanilla.
    You could glance at Yahoo’s front page and see how they create article titles to get viewers to click. You might try adding a video or a related picture or two to get people excited about everything’ve got to say.

    In my opinion, it could bring your website a little bit more interesting.

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