Hello Kitty, Bye Bye Kiddie: Pennsylvania School Suspends Kindergartener For Bubble Gun

200px-Hello_kitty_character_portraitimage4722682lWe have yet another mindless enforcement of a zero tolerance rule. A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl was suspended from kindergarten after she who told another girl that she was going to shoot her with a pink Hello Kitty toy gun that blows soapy bubbles. Originally, the charge was “terroristic threats” against the student. The Mount Carmel Area Elementary School in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania reduced the charge but still suspends the kindergartener to end her reign of soapy terror.

We have previously discussed these zero tolerance policies on drugs and guns which have routinely resulted mindless charges and suspensions against students.

imageA psychologist actually examined the girl to determine that she was not a threat — though she does threaten others with spontaneous cleaning and rinsing.

The teacher actually confronted the girl in class and told her that police would be called. She was then “interrogated” by these adults while crying in fear.

Once again, there is no talk of disciplining the teacher or officials for this traumatic and moronic treatment of a young child.

Source: WTVY

48 thoughts on “Hello Kitty, Bye Bye Kiddie: Pennsylvania School Suspends Kindergartener For Bubble Gun

  1. When there are calls for mental health screenings for people who want to purchase guns, maybe there ought to be mandatory screenings for elementary school teachers and principals. This kind of story is becoming all too common. This child will be traumatized for years to come, and may develop phobias about police and/or going to school.

    Perhaps the teacher and adults involved ought to be sent for a mandatory mental health screening by a competent psychologist or psychiatrist. There really is no cure for stupid.

  2. This country has completely lost its balance. Whether it is by a polarized congress, or nutty extremists form the left and right in society, the sane balanced people in the middle seem to have become disenfranchised.

  3. “The teacher actually confronted the girl in class and told her that police would be called. She was then “interrogated” by these adults while crying in fear.”
    I am normally anti death penalty, …However in this case, I think the teacher should be subjected to it.

  4. OS,
    You are right about phobias and the police. I was questioned by a police officer when I was in 4th or 5th grade and he claimed that I broke into the school near my home and vandalized it. I have never forgotten that moment or the fact that the good Benedictine sitters allowed him to question me alone in a supply room.

  5. When my kids were in school I did a lot of volunteer work and was in their schools regularly. Because of that I tend to have a lot of sympathy for the difficult job teachers have. I also know that often the stories reported in the media are not the whole story and often are designed to enrage and excite rather than inform and report.

    That said, this one is a really head scratcher.. Unless there is something they are not telling us I can’t imagine this level of overreaction. Seriously, the teacher and administration need some counseling so they can deal with their jobs in a more appropriate manner.

  6. And it is being suggested that people who over react like this be given guns! Thank goodness they didn’t have a weapon when the apprehended this child.

  7. Mark is correct in noting that the “bubble” gun was not even at school. Another of the many things that trouble me in this case is the girl’s age. From a child development perspective five in considered an age where “magical” thinking characterizes the child. An interrogation, done by I assume accusatory adults is guaranteed to have a traumatic effect that can last for years as OS points out. Would it be too much to expect that these “professionals” have taken courses in child development? This should be a basic requirement for teaching at this level. Were it my child put through this I would have engaged in a loud campaign to have these people severely reprimanded or fired for this nonsense. For the lawyers here, would there be any tort relief possible for this child/family considering the damages if any wouldn’t be apparent for many years?

  8. I am not being very open minded here. I allow myself to expose my ignorance at times, it is a learning process for me.

    This is a FIVE yr old !!! Hello Kitty is not on the terrorist watch list. Making bubbles is a constitutionally protected right for all children.
    When “adults” project adults fears and paranoia into the minds of 5 yr olds it is time for the “adult” to take a step back and “shake themselves”
    Heck, even the catholic church knows enough to not threaten children till they attain the ripe old age of seven.

    Did this girl read and sign the school no tolerance policy? Did the teacher show a hour long video of the school rules mandating behavior policies all students must adhere to?
    Perhaps this district can start a pre kindergarten school training class. The four year olds can be shackled to their desks and made to study school policies and swear an oath to abide by them.
    Upon completion they can put their mark (in crayon no doubt) upon a contarct stating if I break my covenant with this policy I willingly accept police interrogation, public shame, and the wildly nonrational fears of being five, and having “adults” intimidate the crap out of me. What possibly could be wrong with this “positive” learning experience.

    I suppose the next day the girl probably got up extra early due to her excitement and desire to go back to school.

  9. Looking at the picture, I believe it is a hello kitty hair blow dryer. The bubbles are probably used to dampen and straighten unruly curls that seem to be rampant on five year olds. Perhaps the girl said “I will style you !”

  10. You simply can not ask anyone employed by the government to think. They are completely worthless – which is why they work for the government in the first place. They are unemployable anywhere else.

  11. “You simply can not ask anyone employed by the government to think. They are completely worthless – which is why they work for the government in the first place. They are unemployable anywhere else.”


    Quite frankly you are an idiot. I worked for government for 32 years. I personally am smarter than you, easily recognizable by your statement above, no doubt have a better education and could have found work in any number of occupations that would have been financially remunerating. I chose public service because I found it a rewarding career. As for your intelligence and acumen, with your statement I can see that many of the people I worked with are also smarter than you.

  12. “Originally, the charge was “terroristic threats” against the student.”

    What in the hell is wrong with us. (Please don’t answer. ;-) )

  13. You follks can see why some uf us dogs, when given the choice after the interview at the Pearly Gates, chose a dog’s life over reincarnation as a human. The Ellis Island like place has a seminar called “Come Back As A Dog”. It lasts about four horus and is well worth it.

    When they outlaw bubble guns, only outlaws will have bubbles. And, only teachers will have bubble heads.

  14. What Frankly said. This teacher and this administrator(s) need to get counseling or better yet, need some continuing education to straighten them out.

  15. How in the world are kids supposed to learn to dofferentiate between play, imagination, and reality when the adults can’t figure it out?
    Mike, what is it when you disparage what you are – reaction formation? Maybe that was what Eric is engaging in.

  16. OS,

    I agree with you – mandatory mental health screenings for elementary school teachers and principals.

    Sadly, this is school bureaucracy and political correctness gone astray – far astray. To traumatize a five year old this way, especially when the alleged incident didn’t occur at school, is outrageous. The humiliation and embarassment to this child may remain with her for a long time and will affect her school experience.

    These moronic ‘educators’ need to be keel hauled (check English history for what that entails).

  17. My first thought was that the teacher should confiscate the bubble maker, give it back at the end of the day and request that it not be brought back to school. All in a non-threatening tone of voice. Not possible if the offending “weapon” was not even in school.

    Telling a 5 year old that certain language or certain behavior isn’t acceptable is far preferable to moving them to tears by scaring them. Isn’t that what kindergarten is for? Learning letters and colors, etc. and how to interact with other children in a classroom environment means that the teacher is to TEACH using techniques that are age appropriate. If the teacher can’t handle 5 year old imaginations in the classroom without the help of the cops, it’s time for her/him to resign, she/he is in the wrong job.

  18. Bravo Bettykath! Has everyone gone mad? Kids say and do stuff that would not be acceptable by adults constantly; that is why we ordinarily think the adults should be in charge. However, in this case, the little girl only THREATENED to do something bad to another kid; the teacher (et al) actually DID something bad to a kid. Which one should really be getting punishment? Damn!

    Is there no mention, however, of the rehabilitation needed for the poor neglected victim of this little girl’s terroristic threatening? Why is that kid not being given therapeutic assistance, and why is no foundation being set up to support that child’s recovery? Are we monsters? :twisted:

  19. Hopefully the parents of this girl fight this in the legal arena all the way to the end. Any punishment this girl faces is an injustice. Hopefully the school district will pay out a considerable sum of money. Maybe they will then be deterred from doing this again. But I personally doubt it.

    Hopefully this issue will come up in the next election of the school board members.

  20. Her family’s attorney says she was at her school bus stop last week when she told a classmate she was going to shoot him and herself with the bubble gun – a gun she did not have with her. -from the linked article

    So she was going to shoot herself, too… with bubbles, for cryin’ out loud…
    What a bunch of idiots.

  21. This case makes me think of what I call “cowardaction.” Something real happens in the world that makes everybody feel helpless (a bunch of kids get gunned down in school in Connecticut, for instance) and then a collection of spare a55holes do things THEY THINK or even just pretend address that problem. So some damn stupid moron teacher in another state hauls off and humiliates and terrifies a little girl who didn’t do anything and who doesn’t even probably KNOW about the problem of mass murder in schools. They are cowards who would never take REAL action about anything. It has irritated me the most in the child abuse field. You get, from time to time, a story about some child who is horribly abused and/or killed. Then you get people doing all sorts of ridiculous things THEY justify by talking about the terrible child abuse problem, but of course, none of what they do addresses the problem and the problem continues to get worse while they do all their useless, stupid, mean-spirited, and wrongful “cowardactions.” Disgusting. Even worse, there is often lots of nonprofit and even government funding for the cowardactions, with the idiotic “justification” that it is necessary in view of the terrible problems. Still, no common sense solution and no honest dealing with real problems.

  22. Some decades ago there was hope that teachers were finally seeing children not as “miniature adults” but as exploring, growing, developing little psychological beings with emotions, thoughts, a willingness to learn, and a tenuous grasp on “reality” as adults perceive it. Then 9/11 happened and every rational thought about age-related behavior has been tossed into the hopper. Kids of all ages are bombarded by guns and people with guns every day in the news and on action programs. They have little idea what it all means but a savvy adult can gently explain what is good, bad, and useful about them and pretending to have them, Then the kids can say, “Okay, got it,” and move on in theur development. As a young child I lived in fear and those fear-related experiences and their impact never totally goes away. I know it’s asking a lot, but how about a little reason, emotional sensitiveity, and COMMON Sense in deal with children and “gun” issues.

  23. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/01/kindergartner-suspended-over-bubble-gun-threat/

    “The mother has tried to get the girl in another school since this time, and they won’t take the little girl because of this mark on her record,” Ficker said.

    The Mount Carmel Area School District told ABC News, “We are confident that much of the information supplied to the media may not be consistent with the facts… The Mount Carmel Area School District takes the well-being and safety of students and staff very seriously.”

  24. I had a conversation with my business partner today. We are of mixed feelings about requiring mental exams in order to buy a gun since both of us are certifiable “gun nuts.” However, since I have been screening police officers for thirty-five years for fitness to be issued a firearm, we can see a niche for our consulting business. I don’t have any major objections to becoming independently wealthy.

    We would also be happy to screen school administrators for sanity and common sense, but that would be like getting a Navy contract.

  25. OS, please have them screen them also for having tasers. They are out of hand with the way they use them, and I think many of them should not be allowed to have tasers.

    Eric, what you said is SO wrong! I’ve worked for state government almost 30 years. NOBODY I know at work would even THINK of doing things like this. It’s insane! I hate to break it to you, but plenty of nice, decent, smart people DO work for government. Actually, the people working for govt are just like the people that don’t work for them. We are all in this together. some people are normal, and some people are insane! This teacher is insane! (Notice I didn’t say ALL teachers are insane!)

    I think it’s an act of terrorism against a child for them to do something like this. As long as we have to have the NDAA and no due process, let’s put it to use here! What is WRONG with this country? How can this many people be this insane?

  26. yep, today a bubble gun, by second grade she’ll have graduated to water pistols and when she’s ten years old, a super soaker.

    best they nipped this one in the bud.

  27. Darren,
    That would be a good idea, but how would you choose between one psychopath and another psychopath. Have you read Stanton Samenow’s excellent book, “Inside the Criminal Mind?” It describes both the average politician and their owners, the banksters.

  28. Pete:

    Your comment reminds me of the Simpson’s Episode “Monkey’s Paw” (source http://everything2.com/title/Kang+and+Kodos )

    Homer buys a monkey’s paw that gives him three wishes. Of course, all his wishes go horribly wrong, in particular the world peace one. All weapons and war are banished, which leaves Earth open to invasion from the pathetic aliens with their feeble weapons. Homer gets rid of the paw, and Flanders picks it up and decides to sort things out:

    An alien chases Moe down the street.

    Alien: Kneel before my slingshot, puny earthling!

    Ned makes his wish to get rid of the aliens – suddenly, Moe is chasing the alien, brandishing a board with a nail in it. The aliens are defeated, and fly off to lick their wounds.

    Kodos: Well Kang, it seems the earthlings won.

    Kang: Did they? That board with a nail in it may have defeated us. But the humans won’t stop there. They’ll make bigger boards and bigger nails, and soon, they will make a board with a nail so big, it will destroy them all!

    They burst into maniacal laughter.

  29. Kid suspended for wearing banana costume, reporter a good guy.

    suspend for this, for the Hello Kitty, etc what is left for the major offenses?

  30. I was born and raised in this area and try and get a descent job if your IQ is over 100 you cannot get a descent job, those teachers IQ was probably less then 100, also if you obtain a gold on work keys you cannot get a descent job those idiot teachers probably be lucky if they get a bronze on work keys.

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