The media is quickly moving to learn more about Gov. Sarah Palin. Now, the video below has emerged that gives a glimpse into her belief in the convergence of politics and divine prophesy. In a speech only a couple of months ago, Palin speaks at the Wasilla Assembly of God where she refers the Iraq war as part of God’s plan. For his part, Pastor Ed Kalnins is a controversial figure who has referred to political adversaries as presumptively damned and claims political allies as divinely blessed. Various policies on drilling etc are not just a plan from the GOP but GOD.
Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin tells the faithful to “Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. . . That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.” This will remain many of George Bush’s past suggestions that he has spoken to God on the question.
Palin routinely invokes God’s plan on issues like oil rights and drilling. I will confess to be a critic of the intermingling of God and politics by both Democrats and Republicans, here.
For a recent posting, click here.
These two tidbits were posted to the web yesterday.
In a Washington Post interview, Karl Rove admits that the Sarah Palin pick was “not a governing decision but a campaign decision.
Also:
Rick Davis, campaign manager for John McCain’s presidential bid, insisted that the presidential race will be decided more over personalities than issues during an interview with Post editors this morning.
“This election is not about issues,” said Davis. “This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates.”
Can the cynicism and contempt for voters by the GOP be any more apparent? Not a governing decision? What!!?? They’re actually willing to admit Gov. Palin is not qualified and that they fully intend to use her nomination to once again use the religious right for their votes and then discard them if elected.
I’m not sure who Rick Davis talks to, but every person I talk to–Democrats and Republicans alike are desperate for an issues oriented campaign. And here he is admitting they can’t win on the issues. They want us to believe we don’t want a President who’s too intellectual or too popular or that is a master of eloquence. Suddenly we’re supposed to believe we want as our representative of the free world someone who is inarticulate, low intelligence and no one likes. I think we’ve seen that act for the last eight years. Thanks, but no thanks.
Yep, Patty, she made a point of *not* saying Iraq is a task from God (or that it’s not), of *not* saying that it even is a plan, she just prayed for wisdom for leaders and a plan that’s in accord w/God’s plan, did not affirm or deny whether the present approach was that plan. This is nothing but mainstream, regular stuff normal God-believers, Christian or not might pray. If any thing it’s yet another example that Palin is highly sensitive to the church/state line that should not be crossed.
Bring on the debates! And please someone ask her if she believes, like her pastor/preacher, that these are the “end times”.
Copied this from Huffington to be sure of the context…
” …Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God,” she exhorted the congregants. “That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”…
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I’m no fan of McCain or his VP choice in Governor Palin, however, I read her comment here as more of a plea that the participants ‘Pray’ – on behalf of our soldiers, country, and leaders that somehow the Iraq War end up a positive for fear it will remain, in the minds and hearts of the world, as it appears thus far – undertaken at great expense for naught under false pretenses for less than noble purposes.
I’m convinced it’s going to take a lot more than prayer to do that, but we should probably take whatever help we can get at this stage.
Of course, all anyone needs to know about Sarah Palins qualifications to be Vice President can be extrapolated from the following quote.
“As for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?”
Sarah Palin
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She rests our case.
Cindy
1, September 3, 2008 at 12:25 am
Palin’s more a live and let live kind of person
Tell that to Bullwinkle.
Cindy
1, September 3, 2008 at 12:25 am
No, Cro Magnum Man, Palin did not say that, did not even suggest that. She was very normal, nothing controversial, I watched the whole video
Did not say “what”?
That it was “really cool” growing up in her church or that the Iraq war was a task from God?
Either way you’re wrong, she said them both…. but I’d just like you to be specific about which thing you’re incorrect in disagreeing with.
No, Cro Magnum Man, Palin did not say that, did not even suggest that. She was very normal, nothing controversial, I watched the whole video. She’s specifically said she is not Pentecostal, much less Assembly of God. She’s just visiting an old church of hers, that’s all, and has attended and still attends independent nondenominational churches. The real theocrat in this political race is Obama, he’s the one with the interfaith forum at the convention, expanded faith-based initiative, and who can’t hardly speak without spouting Jim Wallis lingo. Palin’s more a live and let live kind of person, she has her faith you have yours or none at all.
This story is additional evidence that McCain’s picking Palin as a VP candidate was his payback to the religious right for their support. Even McCain hater, James Dobson, switched to McCain once he agreed to pick Sarah Palin as his VP choice. The good news is that she may not survive as his VP choice because of “Troopergate” back in Alaska. Her commingling of Religion and Politics is not only wrong, but also dangerous. Going to grade school under the Benedictine Sisters we never heard that God was on anybody’s side. They taught us that God would help you if you deserve his/her help. Sarah Palin is a product of the far religous right and I believe she is only there to hold the Dobson’s of the world in McCain’s camp.
Calling her kid suffering from Downs Syndrome, a “retarded baby” is probably not going to go far with winning the undecided’s. Of course, who knows whats going win over people who after 8 years of Bush, don’t know if they want 4 more years of it or not. So who knows, maybe they’ll like the retarted baby comment but I’m betting no. Palins problem is she is completely unqualified. She by her own admission, like a dizzy cheerleader said she didn’t know what the Vice President does.
Since when does being ignorant constitute a qualification for Vice President?
She reminds me of Dana Perino, who is supposed to be the White House Press Secretary, but in reality is little more than a soccer mom\Evangelical Christian who hasn’t a clue about anything to do with the country or its history. This woman, didn’t even know about the Cuban Missile Crisis, and THIS qualifies her to be Press Secretary?
Or how about Monica Goodling? Who was made Principal Deputy Director of Public Affairs for the Department of Justice after earning a BA of Arts from Messiah U and a “Juris Doctor” from Pat Robertsons Regent U, just a FEW short years ago. She graduates in 1999, and a few years later she’s overseeing hiring and firing of United States Attorneys and making her choices based on whether they were republicans or democrats!
Was she evil and corrupt? Perhaps. But more likely she was just a testament to the value of a law degree from Pat Robertsons Regent U, not to mention hiring newly minted professionals to the top positions in land. She had NO experience. None. She was fresh out of college when she joined the republicans, and she was rewarded with one of the top jobs in the Department of Justice.
Or what about Harriet Myers? Being picked for the United States Supreme Court? LOL. Thankfully they stopped that one.
The fact is the republicans seem to want to put only weak, inexperienced women into positions of power, perhaps in a way of maintaining some modicum of the status quo. But for whatever reason they’re doing it they certainly seem to pick women who are sorely underqualified to the role they are presenting them for.
And now, once more John McCain’s done the same thing, by insulting all of our intelligences and picking one of the most ridiculously underqualified woman he could find to be his possible replacement for President of the United States.
The “NEW” republicanism is a celebration of stupidity.
To Snarky and Bob, Esq.:
The origin of the term or abbreviation “LOLNAD” originates from the book “The House of God” by Samuel Shem. It is short for “Little Old Lady, No Apparent Distress”. There are other more interesting observation in the book which is a pretty observant, albeit tongue in cheek, peek at the First year of Medical Residency. It is still in print and some passages like Fat Man’s Rules of the House of God are easily Googled.
You will all burn in HELL!!!!! Palin has come to save us!!! Repent now!!!! And by the way, I don’t mean to be too much of a son of a bitch, but who the Hell is going to be taking care of her retarded baby whilst she’s jetting around the globe saving people’s souls?
Man-o-man I can’t wait for the debates.
“LOL — That’s medical shorthand for lying on linoleum. It goes with NAD — no apparent discomfort. Have a nice afternoon.”
From “The Origin of Medical Terms” by H. Alan Skinner printed 1949
Delusion: Latin – Delusio, a deceiving, from deludo, deceive or cheat
An absurd or unfounded belief, especially occuring in mental patients. In English in 15th century, probably through French.
Example: Sarah Palin is Delusional.
Schizophrenia: From the Greek ‘to split’ ‘the mind’
A name for ‘split personality’ coined by Eugen Bleuler as an alternative for dementia praecox. It appeared in his book “Textbook of Psychiatry”. The term has been used generally to mean dementia praecox but it is only one form of this condition.
Example: Sarah Palin exhibits signs of schizophrenia.
BTW, I’m told ‘Ano-olecranon-agnosia’ is medical shorthand used by some doctors while refering to hospital administrators.
ānō — ass
olecranon — elbow (the pointy part we refer to in speech)
agnosia — without knowledge
Example: Both George W. Bush and Sara Palin suffer from ano-olecranon agnosia.
Translation: Both George W. Bush and Sarah Palin don’t know their ass from their elbow.
Have a nice afternoon.
LOL — That’s medical shorthand for lying on linoleum. It goes with NAD — no apparent discomfort. Have a nice afternoon.
LOL
Jill said..
Seeing all the military planes and the flag on the giant screens he wondered, what does Jesus, the prince of peace, have to do with any of this
Nothing, other than maybe condemning it.
By the way Jill, if you listened to any of her opening remarks to the church, (you’ll only be able to stomach about 90 seconds of it prior to vomiting) it is amazing that anyone considered her mature or competent enough to be Governor.
She comes out waving to the crowd like she was Brittany Spears doing an impromptu guest appearance at a shopping mall, declaring “it was really cool growing up in this church“.
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Yes, and I’m sure the Vice Presidency will be really “neato”.
Unless god’s name is Dick and he’s a charter member of PNAC, god did not get us into Iraq. This (additional) level of irrationality is very disturbing. There is no need to look at god when discussing world events, or wins/losses at sporting games for that matter. I can’t remember which fundamentalist preacher said this, but he had some kind of revelation at his mega church. Seeing all the military planes and the flag on the giant screens he wondered, what does Jesus, the prince of peace, have to do with any of this?
I’m glad there are religious people willing to decouple militarism and god. Prophet Palin also links god with corporations. Jeff Sharlet’s book, The Family, discusses how free enterprise became fundamental to evangelicals. It took time and it took work for those two ideologies to meld.
About now I am thinking we should have the Saddleback Thunderdome God bull-shit throw down. Four visions of god in, only one out. We desperately need people who think clearly and deeply about issues and will act in the best interests of this country. Prophet Palin is not one of those people.
it is getting scarier every day now.
shame on us if we as a people elect her.
Who is ED Palin?
So let me get this straight.
“Governor” Palin, is standing before this church in her own district, preaching the Iraq war is a “task from God”?
The obvious mingling of Church and State aside, she is claiming that “GOD” didn’t know whether there was WMD in Iraq?
God thought Iraq had something to do with 911?
Well, most Theists do tend to believe that they are made in the image of their God, so I guess we shouldn’t be too surprised that Gov. (Pastor) Palin’s defense for the war in Iraq has now come full circle to “God is stupid”.
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Wonder how that’s gonna look on a bumper sticker?