The controversy over President Barack Obama continues with an interesting twist: Maj. Gen. Carroll Dean Childers (ret.) and active U.S. Air Force reservist Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff are supporting the litigation. On July 8th, Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook filed the suit July 8th in federal court demanding conscientious objector status and a preliminary injunction based upon his claim that President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States. He argued that, since Obama cannot serve as president of the United States, he cannot order him to deploy as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
What is curious is the decision by the military to suddenly revoke the deployment orders of Cook. That served to fuel the growing movement spreading this rumor. The government is now claiming that the lawsuit is “moot” since Cook doesn’t have to go to Afghanistan. Cook in turn has added a claim to this lawsuit that he was retaliated against for his lawsuit after he was terminated at Simtech Inc., a Department of Defense contractor.
The addition of a retired major general and active colonel will have more of a promotional and legal benefit for these litigants. It was an unfortunate decision to revoke these orders. The Administration should have fought the lawsuit on the merits rather than try to moot the matter. The optics are perfect for those alleging a grand conspiracy to conceal Obama’s birth certificate (which has been viewed as third parties) and hide his alleged foreign born status.
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Yea Vince which is it. Ladies and Gentleman Vince will be right back after he checks to see what Dr. Conspiracy tells him next.
roflmao
Now that’s a hoot.
To all of you complicit in Obama’s forgeries;
The word is Sun Yat-sen was born on 12 November 1866, in CHINA. HE HAD a HAWAIIAN COLB. Are you going to say HE was born in Hawaii?
Posted by Vince Treacy on July 25, 2009 at 10:09 AM,
“She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state’s current certification of live birth ‘as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.'”
Which case was that Mr. Treacy?
Vince Treacy has on a number of occasions referred to http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
Today, at 9:55 AM, Vince Treacy posts information that Obama’s original birth certificate has been destroyed.
Which is it? In possession or destroyed?
Congressman / Judge Ted Poe says COLB is not a birth certificate, Obama has not produced a birth certificate.
Obama, where is the birth certificate?
“Do you smell that, son? Denial in the morning . . . smells like insane paranoia.”
So Mall, if I may call you that, do you get any other secret messages we should know about? Surely the voices in your head have other topics of discussion aside from Obama’s birth certificate.
Here is more evidence that Hawaii has released the birth certificate and that it is the official record:
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Born identity
Birth certificate styles adjust to fit times and regulations
By June Watanabe
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jun 06, 2009
Question: What is the state’s policy for issuing a “Certification of Live Birth” versus a “Certificate of Live Birth”? My first, second and fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children received certifications. Why the difference? The certificate contains more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier’s name and title; attendant’s name and title, etc. The certification has only the child’s name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth, mother’s maiden name, mother’s race, father’s name and father’s race. Why doesn’t the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and fifth children?
Answer: No, you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.
The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.
The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.
And, it’s only available in electronic form.
Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.
“At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.
Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.
“The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests,” Okubo said.
Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”
“The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models,” she said.
Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”
She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state’s current certification of live birth “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”
The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year’s presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.
Asked about that document, Okubo said, “This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate.”
We found a discussion of “the truth about Obama’s birth certificate” on the Web site FactCheck.org — http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html.
The organization describes itself as “a nonpartisan, nonprofit ‘consumer advocate’ for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics.”
It says a “certification of live birth” is, in fact, a short-form official birth certificate. Information included in the document might differ from state to state.UNQUOTE
Source: http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
This is from the Orly Taitz site;
“syc1959 says:
July 24, 2009 at 11:33 pm
The issue with the MSM is they are trying to cover-up and act ignorant. I have been screaming that there are THREE (3) versions of the COLB that have been posted. WHY NO ONE HAS BEEN ASKING THESE HOSTS LIKE LOU DOBS, “WHICH VERSION OF THE COLB ARE YOU REFERING TOO?”
HERE ARE THE THREE FORGERIES
#1 – posted on ‘Fight the Smears’ – no seal, evidence that it is a computer graphic
#2 – posted on FactCheck – has an invalid SEAL from the State of Hawaii
#3 – posted on FactCheck – has no seal whatsoever
See my video on this!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKVr-Evn6Z0
The State of Hawaii has stated they NEVER issued an Obama COLB in 2007 or 2008. So how can three versions of a document that Hawaii never issued be authentic!
Now the MSM is saying that Hawaii destroyed all the origional records in 2001. They are lying, see the ACTUAL e-mails from the State of Hawaii, Vital Records on my blog. How could the Gov. of Hawaii state they have Obama’s origional on file as per the regulations in Hawaii in 2008, if they destroyed them in 2001?
This is from the Orly Taitz site: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3350#comments
“syc1959 says:
July 24, 2009 at 11:33 pm
The issue with the MSM is they are trying to cover-up and act ignorant. I have been screaming that there are THREE (3) versions of the COLB that have been posted. WHY NO ONE HAS BEEN ASKING THESE HOSTS LIKE LOU DOBS, “WHICH VERSION OF THE COLB ARE YOU REFERING TOO?”
HERE ARE THE THREE FORGERIES
#1 – posted on ‘Fight the Smears’ – no seal, evidence that it is a computer graphic
#2 – posted on FactCheck – has an invalid SEAL from the State of Hawaii
#3 – posted on FactCheck – has no seal whatsoever
See my video on this!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKVr-Evn6Z0
Read my blog
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com
The State of Hawaii has stated they NEVER issued an Obama COLB in 2007 or 2008. So how can three versions of a document that Hawaii never issued be authentic!
Now the MSM is saying that Hawaii destroyed all the origional records in 2001. They are lying, see the ACTUAL e-mails from the State of Hawaii, Vital Records on my blog. How could the Gov. of Hawaii state they have Obama’s origional on file as per the regulations in Hawaii in 2008, if they destroyed them in 2001?
There are always a lot of hysterical accusations by bvm on this site.
Here are some facts.
Orly said “Now the MSM is saying that Hawaii destroyed all the origional records in 2001.” That is a lie. It is not the MSM saying this. It is Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the Health Department, who said that in 2001, the state of Hawaii Health Department went paperless, and paper documents were discarded. Everyone can read below and judge.
If you look at my postings, I have said that Hawaii has released the only birth certificate that it can release, a “Certification of Live Birth.” No one can get any other type of birth certificate, neither a long form nor a “vault copy” nor any other. The COLB meets the legal federal definition of birth certificate that I posted above.
Where’s the birth certificate? In front of you. Open your eyes.
The head of CNN told Lou Dobbs that the story is dead. Kitty Pilgrim showed that Obama has proven his birth on DOBBS OWN SHOW when she substituted.
Dobbs, prepare for award of “Worst Person in the World.”
Now for the sources; judge for yourselves:
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Original Message —–
From: Klein, Jon (CNN)
Sent: Thu Jul 23 19:00:44 2009
Subject: Important re birth certificate
I asked the political researchers to dig into the question “why couldn’t Obama produce the ORIGINAL birth certificate?”
This is what they forwarded. It seems to definitively answer the question. Since the show’s mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite. And then it seems this story is dead – because anyone who still is not convinced doesn’t really have a legitimate beef.
Thx
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*In 2001 – the state of Hawaii Health Department went paperless. *Paper documents were discarded* The official record of Obama’s birth is now an official ELECTRONIC record Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the Health Department told the Honolulu Star Bulletin, “At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.
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Transcript from Lou Dobbs Tonight – 07.23.09
DOBBS: ….And a number of Americans are asking, why not? The left-wing media has attacked me because I simply asked the question. Meanwhile, the state of Hawaii says it can’t release a paper copy of the president’s original birth certificate because they say the state government discarded the original document when the health department records went electronic some eight years ago.
That explanation, however, has not satisfied some critics. Joining me now, Roland Martin. He’s CNN contributor, syndicated columnist. And joining us as well, Congressman Ted Poe.
UNQUOTE
Source: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/jon_klein_on_birthers_it_seems_this_story_is_dead_122546.asp
Watch this space for more birthing myths falling from the sky and crashing and burning.
“By the way the Orly Taitz website is now among the top 2% of all the web sites in the world according to the traffic (after only 3 months of existence)”
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“No one in this world has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.”
–H. L. Mencken
Excerpt message from Orly Taitz website:
“Now the MSM is saying that Hawaii destroyed all the origional records in 2001. They are lying, see the ACTUAL e-mails from the State of Hawaii, Vital Records on my blog. How could the Gov. of Hawaii state they have Obama’s origional on file as per the regulations in Hawaii in 2008, if they destroyed them in 2001?”
“Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive” Sir Walter Scott
By the way the Orly Taitz website is now among the top 2% of all the web sites in the world according to the traffic (after only 3 months of existence) http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1
Lou Dobbs, the birth certificate has been released, and you can see it at any time. You fool!
The polling report is from World Nut Daily, a wholly owned subsidiary of the millionaire putting up the billboards, Joseph Farah, and is a completely biased source. An online poll is inherently unreliable because it is not based on a representative sample. A poll question can be biased, for example, have you stopped beating your wife, yes or no.
A Mall cannot be a natural born citizen.
A Mall is a terrible thing to waste.
No wonder Obama’s ‘Obot fools’ are upset.
From http://www.WND.com
“WASHINGTON – The latest AOL online poll shows 82 percent of respondents saying Barack Obama should release his birth certificate.
This finding in spite of a veritable media barrage in recent days of unsubstantiated claims ranging from all Hawaiian birth certificates were destroyed to it already has been released. ”
Get ’em Lou! 🙂
GWLawSchoolMom,
There’s nothing worse than a joke with footnotes.
All must learn to agree with the liberal mind. We know best.
Awwww,
Did you boys run off the troll again?
lol
He should have stayed away the first time he “r-u-n-n-o-f-t”.
Mike thanks for the compliment, not much of one considering whom I’m up against, (no disrespect BVM) Mike I said FEMA was preparing for a wide range of scenarios, the two I’ve given you are the only two that I know come from a reputable source.