This is one of the saddest stories of the year. George Leroy Baker III, 81, left Tempe, Arizona to celebrate his granddaughter’s wedding in Lynchburg, Virginia. Walking across the street to a diner from his hotel, some teens allegedly beat him to death for fun.
The three teenagers were walking down the street when one allegedly said he would beat the first person he met — to impress a girl. Baker walked right into the dare and died for it.
The teens included two 16-year-olds and a thirteen-year-old. They have been charged with murder but their names have been withheld.
Baker appears to have been a wonderful father and his family must now deal with this tragedy at what should have been one of the happiest times for the family.
Source: AZ Family
Jonathan Turley
You really do believe that quantity of words is a substitute for quality though.
Your end product is nearly gibberish.
That’s what happens when you operate off of belief instead of logic.
Blather
FAIL(3): Doesn’t substantively refute the argument as presented.
Almost as funny as someone with a demonstrated lack of skills and knowledge thinking their opinion of my character amounts to anything other than the bluster of a loser.
you seem confused bud, the kids proved you wrong, Spamheed proved your a hypocrite and a racist you have nothing to complain about
And the attack on books?
what an idiot, who is attacking books? how convoluted do you intend to get with this? nobody has attacked books, what has attacked is your use of books and then attempting to pass yourself off as a learned person, when in reality you are a racist bigmouth with a dictionary (a really good one no doubt) and a thesaurus.
Books have been the method of preserving and passing along knowledge and skills for thousands of years. That’s why they are traditionally used in education. You know, so people don’t have to go through life “making it up as [they] go along”.
whilst your opening line started with promise, the passage quickly went down hill as your statements not entirely true, people often buy books on a whim, or out of the freedom of choice, unless they are studying or need a book on a specific subject.
They often read books equally on a whim, millions of people making up their choices as they go along and if the sole purpose of books was to stop people from “making it up as we go along” then people wouldn’t still be writing so many books every year now would they?
Books are also an important form of expression and entertainment, so the people who write all of those original books every year, aren’t they effectively “making it up as they go along?” so sorry but you’re entirely wrong again. both the writers of the books and the people who read them, along with a bit of freedom of choice and a desire to lear and entertain, actively encourage the movement of “making it up as you go along”
Well. Obviously you don’t know, except for the “making it up” part. You’re real good at that.
I take it this is aimed at Rhubarb, but as he clearly states that his idea of having independent thought is to in effect “make it up as he goes along” when it comes to his prose, so no doubt he’ll take that as flattery. although he did also say that he was taking the mickey, a point lost on you entirely
Hey, next time you’re in need of a doctor? Why not just pick someone off the street and tell them to “make it up as they go along” to treat that pain inside your head.
Isn’t that a bit too much like that old joke about the boy going off to war and his mom saying “well if you get your legs blown off don’t come running to me” I only mention the joke because that short paragraph sums up the quality of your entire purile rant
you have no solid ground left to stand on
You are a hypocrite (proven)
you are a racist (proven)
A group of schoolchildren have successfully argued against your “opinions formed on logic” argument
Your definition of the purpose of books beggars belief in its crassness
if ever they made it an international sport you could pointelessly convolute for your country
Your comments about books and “making it up as you go along” are just nonsense and go more to confirm my belief that you are a teenage wannabe trying his hand at self grandeur than anything you have written before.
*snicker*
Good luck with whatever career you choose when you grow up
Bakersfield,
Elaine
“It would have been more humorous to have written the following:
Our Elaine’s a funny ‘un.
She’s got a face like a pickled unneeyun.”
sorry but thats just pedantic dross, it could just as easily read “she’s got a face like a pickled union” what exactly is a “pickled union?” I’m afraid it’s a fail, you’re attempting to pick fault where there is none.
at least Rhubarbs use of onion and funny ‘un go together to form a rhyme, common sense and a basic grasp of the english language should tell you this. I do not regard myself as a creative person but even I can see that Rhubarbs verse smacks your criticisms flat and his message is clear.
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Are you really THAT dense?
I was spelling phonetically! Funny ‘un and unneeyun rhyme; funny’ un and onion do not. I was just trying to be helpful. In addition, I would not characterize my earlier comment as pedantic. As for dross: I’d say that is your field of expertise–not mine.
😉
Another dazzling display of “ignorant and proud of it”.
FAIL(2): Doesn’t substantively refute the argument as presented.
quick bud, find a science book, dazzle someone with a fact before they get bored with you.
did you know when the Texan Red underwater golfing beetle gets annoyed it turns purple?
tell me bud, are you related in any way to the Texan Red underwater golfing beetle?
Bud was a little red bug
who lived underneath the blue rug
he’d shout and attack
til someone barked back
and then hide in his rug – nice and snug – poor bug
*snicker*
Good luck with that
And the attack on books?
Well that’s really funny.
Books have been the method of preserving and passing along knowledge and skills for thousands of years. That’s why they are traditionally used in education. You know, so people don’t have to go through life “making it up as [they] go along”.
Well. Obviously you don’t know, except for the “making it up” part. You’re real good at that.
Hey, next time you’re in need of a doctor? Why not just pick someone off the street and tell them to “make it up as they go along” to treat that pain inside your head.
See how well that works out for you.
Good luck with that.
Seriously, I’m willing to let you clowns make fools of yourself as long as you’re willing to attack me instead of the argument.
Come on, fail some more.
It’s funny.
Almost as funny as someone with a demonstrated lack of skills and knowledge thinking their opinion of my character amounts to anything other than the bluster of a loser.
bud you’re dribbling and talking rubbish, please try to control yourself, you’re on a public forum
Hypocrite
*snicker*
you say
Failure and “making it up as i go along”.
Finally two subjects which you know something about, albeit just not in the way that you may think.
You don’t get irony or sarcasm at all do you bud
you didn’t even look up as they went over your empty head did you?
ROFL
*snicker*
good luck with that
FAIL: Doesn’t substantively refute the argument as presented.
Buddha
you’ve lost it, rage against the machine, howl at the moon, bark at the postman if you like, but you are a hypocrite, whilst you maintain that your use of logic is impeccable, your own logic is dead in the water
You are a hypocrite and opinions formed out of personal choice are now and have always been as valid as any opinion formed in any other manner.
Even your little rhyme is an edit of an existing one, there is nothing original about you bud because your opinions come out of a book
good luck with that
*snicker*
Elaine
“It would have been more humorous to have written the following:
Our Elaine’s a funny ‘un.
She’s got a face like a pickled unneeyun.”
sorry but thats just pedantic dross, it could just as easily read “she’s got a face like a pickled union” what exactly is a “pickled union?” I’m afraid it’s a fail, you’re attempting to pick fault where there is none.
at least Rhubarbs use of onion and funny ‘un go together to form a rhyme, common sense and a basic grasp of the english language should tell you this. I do not regard myself as a creative person but even I can see that Rhubarbs verse smacks your criticisms flat and his message is clear.
Yet sloppy was bigging you up to the enth as a super power in the prose department.
looks like youve Failed again
and to think that Rhyming was something you picked up on earlier as an important aspect of a limerick.
Good luck with that
ROFLOL
Sorry, I’m still laughing at “making it up as i go along” being conflated to some form of individualism.
Sometimes the best funny is the most obvious funny.
Failure and “making it up as i go along”.
Finally two subjects which you know something about, albeit just not in the way that you may think.
No, if that is what I was attempting to tell you then I would have specifically stated as much. A failure in arrivals should not necessarilly be assumed to be a failure in dispatches.
I do however tip my hat at your initial inclination to use a rather desparaging term for what is and has been for a very long time, a very popular form of verse and to a great extent confirms to me that “the regulars” on here, of which I believe you are one, are more interested in one upmanship and appearing superior to others than they are in actually discussing anything of real value.
my chosen style of rhyme on this occasion was more or less dictated to me as I felt that In my opinion they would register more effectively with the level of the proposed audience. similarly my own choice of music would differ quite significantly from that which I would play for public consumption.
what I was actually telling you in my last post, rather than attempting anything to the contrary was that I occupy my mind with independent thought rather than blindly following the herd along the path most worn and perfer to take in each idea or theme on its own merit and then I would formulate a taste or opinion based on my own feelings, emotions and indeed my own enjoyment of that idea or theme.
In some circles this can very easilly be labelled in many different ways especially by those with a more pompous or simplistic disposition, However, I would simply call it the “making it up as i go along” movement or of the “being my own person” style.
almost remiiscent of the late great E Morecambe with his timeless “all the right notes but not necessarilly in the right order”
Rhubarb,
“Our Elaines a funny ‘un
she’s got a face like a pickled onion”
It would have been more humorous to have written the following:
Our Elaine’s a funny ‘un.
She’s got a face like a pickled unneeyun.
😉
How interesting.
The trolls, unable to win by logic, resort to goading and when that fails, to simply abusing the English language.
ROFLMAO
Refute the logic or remain defeated, trolls.
However, since you can’t refute the logic, you choose to scream and shout at a group of people who are clearly mocking your inadequate position and skills.
That’s a cute tactic. One usually utilized by three year olds, but cute nonetheless.
As to rumors of my retreat?
It’s called “sleep”.
You should get some. It serves to refresh the mind. And you’ve done little but demonstrate yours are minds in need of much refreshing.
Since you’ve also demonstrated a lack of understanding of basic definitions, here’s another lesson:
Quantity is not the same as quality.
And while I’m a great admiring of his comic skills, W.C. Fields advice “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull” really only applies to people capable of generating adequate bull.
Bad news, sports. Your bullshitting skills are just as bad as your logical and argument skills.
But please, carry on embarrassing yourselves instead of trying to substantively refute the argument.
It’s quite amusing.
In the same way a three year old is amusing.
And here’s a gift: a limerick for trolls.
There once were some trolls from Nantucket
With heads as empty as buckets,
When confounded with reason,
They fought through the season,
But in the end they could only suck it.
But back to the argument:
A) An eye for an eye, which leave two blind people that will require some form of social assistance and/or accommodation?
B) A suitable punishment that maximizes the inconvenience to the perpetrator by passing the maximum costs to them directly without creating an additional burden on society such as prison time and/or economic damages paid as restitution that leaves the perpetrator physically whole but chained to their bad act socially and economically, possibly in perpetuity?
If your goal is simple revenge, the answer is A.
If your goal is justice, the answer is B.
The raw truth of the assertion still stands.
Spamhead admitted his choice was A and his motive was irrational.
None of his troll brethren have been able to refute this in any rational way, ergo, your thinking is also irrational.
The argument still stands on its own merits. The logic is still linear and correct in terms of definition. Revenge is still a form of seeking parity (by definition), parity is related to equity (by definition), equity is a component of justice (by definition and the laws in question). Appropriate law and reference cites were provided.
You lot? Have provided nothing in refutation of logical substance other than proving that you are indeed probably twelve years old . . . and most certainly not in the gifted and talented section. You’ve presented the argumentative equivalent of being presented with “Grass is green because it contains a pigment called chlorophyll. Chlorophyll, chemically required for photosynthesis, absorbs all the colors of the visible spectrum except for green, ergo grass is green because it reflects back only the green portion of the spectrum received in normal sunlight” and responding with the counter-argument “Grass is magenta because I said so.”
That’s pure fucking genius. I’m sure you have the Ghost of René Descartes shaking in his boots. Aristotle and Lewis Carroll are agape at your intellect and reasoning ability.
Here’s where the rubber meets the road: Unless you can logically refute the argument as presented (which you can’t or else you would have by now), you’ll always be on the losing side of petulant, unfounded and illogical thought.
I suspect you’re used to that though.
Rhubarb,
“I’ve never subscribed to the majority as they tend to analyse where it’s not necessary and read into that in which there is nothing readable and if the majority includes this lot then I have to be overjoyed by my initial assessment.”
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Are you attempting to tell me that you feel more comfortable with doggerel than with poetry that might require some thought when reading it?
I think I’ll get the rest of my creative English class to start posting on here.
being tutored to such a high level as this for is amazing and so invaluable in the nurturement of my as yet unlocated talents.
Elaine,
I and the rest of my colleagues have long read with such admiration and for so many years the collected works of…..erm
someone else.
so excuse me if I give your comments something of a wide berth
Our Elaines a funny ‘un
she’s got a face like a pickled onion
her eyes like two tomatoes
and a nose like a pear
so as well as the free masterclass she’s also part of our five a day
*snicker*