Pelosi Prevails

As expected, outgoing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has prevailed in retaining the top leadership position — a surprise move after many, if not most, pundits expected she would resign after the devastating loss of at least 61 seats and record low popularity ratings for both herself and Congress.

Six out of ten Americans polled have unfavorable views of Pelosi, who will now continue to be the face of the Democratic minority.

The vote is a triumph of the leadership, but it is a curious message for some voters who expected the Democrats to take a new course. The retention of Pelosi is consistent with the public line that the election was all about the economy and not a rejection of Democratic policies or measures like the national health care plan. Given the extremely low popularity both Pelosi and Congress, it is a risky move. What do you think?

Source: CNN

85 thoughts on “Pelosi Prevails”

  1. Must be your upper lip you’re smelling and as to that false equivalence, you made it. I compared a fatally flawed man to fatally flawed man . . . and on to your fatally flawed logic.

    And don’t fret. People may mistake you for a Christian, but no one is ever going to mistake you for educated.

  2. Buddha,

    No, see Slavery is THE issue that determines if you’re right or wrong. Sorry Christians, hey the good news is you still get the first 4 or so books of the New Testament.

    Oh, you get to keep Revolutions too (Spoiler: The beast is Nero)

  3. John Brown was a murderer and a thief, but I guess that was also negated by his being an abolitionist. To bad for him the court didn’t see it that way and hung him. Just like it’s too bad that the one good, ethical position from a Libertarian whack job doesn’t negate Spooner being a Libertarian whack job who didn’t understand basic contract law let alone the Constitution.

    But at least you’re in comparable company.

  4. Libertarian whack job who opposed human slavery, imagine that. Horrible man he must have been.

  5. Ekerya,

    Have you enjoyed the benefits of the Constitution? Have you ever Gotten mail?

    If so then you’ve agreed to the contract.

  6. In Hatfill v. Ashcroft, it was ruled that Bivens complaints for unconstitutional behavior should be prosecuted as Privacy Act complaints against the computer systems. The computer systems are supposed to protect our constitutional rights.

  7. ekeyra:

    “mespo, nice rhetoric, but utterly meaningless.”


    “A grain of real knowledge, of genuine controllable conviction, will outweigh a bushel of adroitness; and to produce persuasion there is one golden principle of rhetoric not put down in the books–to understand what you are talking about.”

    ~John Robert Seeley (British historian,1834 – 1895)

  8. The Courts with or without lawyers are supposed to protect people like myself from being kidnapped by our government and held without a criminal charge like I was by DOJ for 5 months.

    If the government doesn’t have to pay punitive damages when it kidnaps citizens like myself and holds them using unpublished procedure as part of an extortionist scheme then no one within the government will be held responsible.

    The reason that the courts are so screwed up is that lawyers and directors buy insurance that will defend them when they commit crimes. The insurance for committing crimes often has a very small deductible. The insurance companies simply make arrangements with the clerks to assign a sympathetic judge and then they apparently pay the judges off. One way is to provide a credit card for the judge to use at brothels like the Denver Players.

    There is no way to regulate the insurance companies without federal regulation because they sell insurance from foreign countries over the Internet.

  9. The Lawyer’s Party ~

    This is very interesting & I never thought about it this way. Perhaps this is why so many physicians are conservatives or Republicans.


    The Lawyers’ Party by Bruce Walker ~~

    The Democratic Party has become The Lawyers’ Party . Barack Obama was a lawyer. Michelle Obama was a lawyer. Hillary Clinton is a lawyer. Bill Clinton is a lawyer. John Edwards is a lawyer. Elizabeth Edwards is a lawyer. Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did not graduate)…

    Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd Bentsen, went to law school. Look at leaders of the Democrat Party in Congress: Harry Reid is a lawyer.& Nancy Pelosi is a lawyer.

    The Republican Party is different ~

    President Bush is a businessman. Vice President Cheney is a businessman. The leaders of The Republican Revolution ~ Newt Gingrich was a history professor. Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist. House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer. The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon. Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer?

    Gerald Ford, who left office 31 years ago & who barely won the Republican nomination as a sitting president, running against Ronald Reagan in 1976..

    The Republican Party is made up of real people doing real work, who are often the targets of lawyers. The Democrat Party is made up of alot lawyers. Democrats mock & scorn men who create wealth, like Bush & Cheney, or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich.

    The Lawyers’ Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods & services that people want & need, as the enemies of America . And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of The Lawyers’ Party…

    The USofA has 5% of the world’s population & 66% of the world’s lawyers ~ Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive damages in ridiculous lawsuits such as “spilling hot coffee on yourself & suing the establishment that sold it to you” ~ also to limit punitive damages in huge medical malpractice lawsuits. This legislation has continually been blocked from even being voted on by the Democrat Party. When you see that 97% of the political contributions from the American Trial Lawyers Association goes to The Democrat Party, then you realize who is responsible for our medical & product costs being so high.:!!

  10. “mespo, nice rhetoric, but utterly meaningless.”

    Meaningless only if one is ignorant of which they speak. You are, ekeyea, ignorant of both the nature of contracts versus charters and the man whom you quote.

    Lysander Spooner, he who practiced Massachusetts law without a license or proper education, famed for both his hatred of government regulation and his desire to privatize the post office (with him as owner of the American Letter Mail Co., of course) would be simply be known as just another Libertarian whack job if he hadn’t been an published abolitionist. The nature of the Constitution as charter is just as mespo describes, Spooner’s anarchist day dreams aside. It’s a charter, not a contract, and as such Spooner’s analysis is junk. In fact, one of the synonyms of “charter” is “constitution”. The primary similarity between a contract and a charter is their legal enforceability. The primary difference is the scope of authority. The Constitution is far more than just a contract.

  11. mespo, nice rhetoric, but utterly meaningless. Spooner’s argument that the constitution bound noone because it doesnt meet even the loosest requirements we would hold an actual lawful contract to, shows a deep understanding of the law. The founding fathers could not grant authority that was never theirs to grant.

  12. ekeyra:

    Lysander Spooner was a dysfunctional lawyer, dysfunctional farmer, and dysfunctional anarchist. His musings on the Constitution evince his lack of a fundamental understanding of law and and its role in the human condition. The Constitution was no mere contract between man and man, but rather a charter: A grant of authority and freedom from one generation to the next; a statement of principles and a vision for a great undertaking; a successor to the ideals of freedom from the Greco-Roman tradition, through Magna Charta, the Mayflower Compact, and Patrick Henry’s oration at St. John’s Church. It is more invitation than agreement, and more legacy than diktat. One that seeks our higher purposes and relies upon the better angels of our character. It exists because great men deemed it to exist. It is a guiding star and the guarantor of our freedom. If it died, as Spooner would have us believe, it would necessarily be given life again with each successive generation’s craving for human dignity, freedom, and justice.

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