Judson Phillips, president of Tea Party Nation, thinks that it makes sense that voting rights in the United States should be restricted to those who own property. He believes that property owners have more of a “vested stake” in a community than do people who do not own property. That’s what he claimed on a weekly program hosted by Tea Party Nation recently.
BTW, Phillips is the individual who sent an email to members of his organization in October telling them that they should vote for the Independent candidate over Rep. Keith Ellison in the November election for 5th Congressional District in Minnesota. Phillips wrote the following about Ellison in his email: “There are a lot of liberals who need to be retired this year, but there are few I can think of more deserving than Keith Ellison. Ellison is one of the most radical members of congress. He has a ZERO rating from the American Conservative Union. He is the only Muslim member of congress.”
Meanwhile—Rushbo ranted on about poor folks recently on his radio program. In a “media tweak of the day,” Limbaugh asked listeners if they thought that people who can’t feed and clothe themselves and who receive government assistance should be allowed to vote. It was just a “think piece” Rushbo said as he asked his listeners to imagine how different the political make-up of this country would be if such people couldn’t vote.
In a Psycho Talk segment on his MSNBC program, Ed Schultz “tweaked” Limbaugh back.
Maybe Phillips and Limbaugh ought to get together to establish an organization for the purpose of taking voting rights away from certain Americans whom they deem unworthy. Why not return to the good old political days when only property-owning white men had the right to vote. Right???
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– Elaine Magliaro, Guest Blogger
Von Mises?
Yeah, Ol’ Mad Ludwig is a go to guy for fascist apologists and libertarians who can think of only money. He – like all libertarian economists – only works if you’re stupid, evil or venal enough to think people are property.
Hayek?
Von Mises’ buddy and employee. Fascists of a feather flock together. Rationalization of greed is still rationalization.
Say?
Never amounted to much of lasting impact other than Say’s Law – which he didn’t coin by the way but rather only popularized. Supply creates demand is a paraphrase of Keynes – a paraphrase that Keynes himself criticized. One way of restating his favorite phrase is “Built it and they will come.” Which is patently ridiculous despite being a key line in a good baseball movie. Now before you defend that idea of Say’s?
Edsel.
Enjoy being wrong some more, apologist for greed. You certainly are good at it.
Elaine M.
I guess Bush spent all that money on TARP and then Obama spent all that money on fake stimulus and there you go. Plus the drag to our economy by the war in Iraq and it is amazing we dont have higher unemployment.
Maybe its a good idea to keep taxes low. I wonder what would have happened if he hadnt lowered them?
Buddha is Laughing:
“Yeah, Chan. I’m so wrong for following the teachings of Adam Smith, an actual economist, instead of someone like you who is following the equivalent of economics learned off the backs of sugar packets at Denny’s.”
So are Von Mises, Hayek and Say, dipstick.
The Bush tax cuts have been in place for years. Where are all the manufacturing and other jobs the rich supposedly created because they were allowed to keep more of their money?
Gyges:
My mistake on that. You are correct.
However you did not rebut the argument I made. The custom boat builders were hurt badly and the tax was repealed.
I stand by what I said, if you tax the rich (business owners) too much they will do other things with their money or they wont have money to invest in new ventures.
It is really pretty simple.
Did or did not the luxury boat tax hurt the custom boat (yacht) business? Did rich people stop buying yachts because they did not want to pay the extra money for the new tax?
The principle is the same, money follows the highest rates of return in most cases. A high rate of return could also be avoiding taxes.
Yeah, Chan. I’m so wrong for following the teachings of Adam Smith, an actual economist, instead of someone like you who is following the equivalent of economics learned off the backs of sugar packets at Denny’s.
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Chan,
O.k. so I was wrong, you’re just dishonest. It’s not MY yacht example, it’s yours. I’ve already given my analysis of it.
One more little thing and then I’m done (feel free to keep telling people I said what I didn’t):
For kicks and grins, I’m going to do a “find word” on this page. The word I’m having the computer search for is “yacht.”
The FIRST time Yacht appeared:
“Chan L. 1, December 7, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Gyges:
do you remember a few years ago when they had the luxury tax? It sent the yacht building business into the toilet and they had to repeal it. “
Buddha is Laughing:
people arent poor because of rich people, ekeyra is right, your knowledge of economics could fill Thumbalina’s thimble.
Socialism/communism/fascism creates poverty.
Since ekeyra is very good at explaining economic issues, I will leave it to him/her to tell you why. It seems his/her home schooling was far better than your public education.
Gyges:
here is what I said:
“But the funny thing is, you take too much from the rich and they aren’t going to produce any more. And then where will you be?”
Just like your example of the luxury boat tax, the rich decided not to buy new yachts and that hurt people.
So I think I have been pretty consistent.
So see what I wrote above.
I know it’s a stale joke, but the best humor is also truthful.
Tell me what you do for a living and we will see how right or wrong I am.
I know young engineers that are graduating with salaries and bonuses over $60,000 per year. Can English majors say the same thing?
Buddha & Gyges,
It’s just a lot of Goebbledygook! Remember–some people see Nazis everywhere–just ask Glenn Beck.
Here’s one of my favorite Back in Black segments from The Daily Show:
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Buddha,
Hey, at least they didn’t insult what they think your major is using a stale joke.
And calling me arrogant for pointing out that he completely misrepresented what actually happened. That just hurt.
roflmao
You trolls are so cute when you’ve had your asses kicked!
Goebbels indeed. Trying to smear me with your own sins, Rove?
Let’s be perfectly clear – you’re defending people who would have most of humanity live in grinding poverty to support the decadent lifestyles of 1-2% of the population.
Out of simple greed.
But I’m the Nazi.
ROFLMAO
If you’re looking for a historical comparison that’s more accurate, you should look to the French – Jean-Baptiste Louvet de Couvrai.
Careful puppets! Your strings are showing.
Buddha is Laughing:
you might like this one, just change Jew to rich folk. Goebbles didnt have anything on you, but then this is the type of stuff I expect from people who want to take other peoples money. To do that you first have to dehumanize them.
You firing up your ovens?
government and labor are much more parasitic than “rich” folk:
Mark Hemingway: Mandatory PLAs put tax dollars into union coffers
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By: Mark Hemingway 12/05/10 8:05 PM
Unemployment rose to 9.8 percent Friday, prompting taxpayers to ask yet again, “Hey, what happened with all those jobs that were supposed to be created with that $814 billion stimulus bill?”
There are a lot of reasons why the Obama stimulus failed, but perhaps the bill’s most insidious problem is that it was used to pay off special interests, especially the labor unions. In fact, this is happening right now on the White House doorstep.
On Sept. 14, the General Services Administration awarded a $52.3 million stimulus-funded contract to renovate the Lafayette Building at 811 Vermont Ave. NW — right across Lafayette Square from the White House.
The building houses a number of government entities, including the Department of Veterans Affairs. The contract went to the builder who offered the bid with the best overall score under federal procurement regulations and the lowest price.
But then, as usually happens in Washington, things got political. On the same day the contract was awarded, the GSA ordered the winning contractor, Grunley Construction, to use a “Project Labor Agreement (PLA),” thus forcing the firm to use more expensive unionized labor.
Even in the Washington region, union labor only makes up 12 percent of the construction industry, so the price of forcing the PLA on Grunley added $3.3 million to the cost of the Lafayette renovation, courtesy of the taxpayer.
Unless you’re in the construction business, you’ve probably never heard of PLAs. Accepting a PLA locks a company into an iron-clad construction contract that virtually guarantees cost overruns. Typically, construction projects with PLAs cost 12 to 18 percent more than those without them.
Nationally, unions only make up about 14 percent of the construction industry. There’s no shortage of competition. So why would anyone hire union labor knowing it will make their project cost more?
The answer is political pressure. One of President Obama’s first actions was to rescind an executive order signed by his predecessor in 2001 that protected taxpayers from PLAs on federally funded construction projects of $25 million or more.
Why? Because unions collectively spent $400 million to elect Obama and a Democratic majority in Congress in 2008. They spent hundreds of millions more this year trying to keep Democrats in power on Capitol Hill.
Thanks to the stimulus bill, the federal government now has $140 billion in new federally assisted construction projects to oversee. And Obama is doing his best to insure all of them use PLAs.
Instead of fair bidding on the open market, GSA awards extra points to bidders who agree in advance to use PLAs. While it’s not an explicit requirement, the message to government contractors is clear – accept a PLA or be at a huge disadvantage to rivals who do.
If PLAs were added to all stimulus-funded construction projects, it would add $17 billion to $25 billion to their total costs, money that would be better spent creating new private-sector jobs or reducing the federal deficit.
Meanwhile, the White House has the temerity to suggest its actions are good economic policy. The Annual Report of the White House Middle Class Task Force released earlier this year had an entire section inexplicably touting PLAs. Nowhere does the report acknowledge the added costs PLAs impose on taxpayers.
If you can figure out how awarding billions of tax dollars to a powerful special interest that represents a small slice of a single employment sector helps the middle class, you might be smart enough to work for the White House economic team.
The rest of us are left wondering why those 814 billion stimulus dollars didn’t create jobs.
Mark Hemingway is an editorial page staff writer for The Examiner. He can be reached at mhemingway@washingtonexaminer.com.
you can vent all your hostile liberal crap on poor Mr. Hemingway. But that is how all of you operate, like thugs and brutes. Doesnt surprise me you are all for stealing other people’s money. That is what thugs and brutes do.
Yes, Buddha is Laughing be careful in the woods and speaking of Aesop’s Fables:
The Ass in the Lion’s Skin
AN ASS, having put on the Lion’s skin, roamed about in the forest and amused himself by frightening all the foolish animals he met in his wanderings. At last coming upon a Fox, he tried to frighten him also, but the Fox no sooner heard the sound of his voice than he exclaimed, “I might possibly have been frightened myself, if I had not heard your bray.”
everyone has your number.
Deep Cover 7:
That Aesop was a pretty sharp guy, eh?
ekeyra:
good analysis. Wasting your time though on Mespo and Buddha, they cant understand. It’s that education thing. They have been educated to a level beyond their ability to comprehend. Especially when it comes to economics. Maybe they went to public schools and didn’t have the benefit of home schooling?
By the way you are right on about Ricardo and Smith and Marx was just a fool who wanted to control the world through the proletariat. Labor was just a tool for Marx, he probably laughed at them in private.
Right about the Federal Reserve as well, they don’t let the market set interest rates and so you have all kinds of distortions in investments.
Good posts above.
Buddha,
Be careful in the woods!
should read Porsches, but the old timers drive a porch during lunch hour.
So that is why we need English majors, we do the thinking and you correct the grammer and spelling since you cant do the thinking.
Gyges:
thank you for the English lesson, it was most welcomed. I studied the hard sciences (being Asian, I didn’t have a choice). So in my position we usually have English majors write our specifications for us.
It’s kinda funny though, they are rather arrogant just like you, maybe it’s because they are driving KIA’s while the technical people either drive BMW’s, Mercedes or Porches and live in much nicer houses and have better looking wives for the most part.
I wouldn’t brag too much about being good at English, you know what they say about English majors:
They usually ask their client/customer-“do you want fries with that shake” or “would you like paper or plastic with your purchase”.