This video contains very disturbing footage. What is striking is how brave and calm the school board members, particularly Bay City Schools Superintendent Bill Husfelt, prove under pressure. The gunman has been identified as Clay A. Duke.
At one point, a female school board member [Ginger Littleton] who was allowed to leave returned to try to take the gun away. This looks like a case of “suicide by cop” to me.
After security guard Mike Jones wounded Duke, he appears to have shot himself.
I think the video shows members doing precisely what they should do in such a circumstance. The only exception would be Littleton, who was clearly quite brave. It was unlikely that she could overpower Duke and could have caused the gun to go off while it was pointing at the other board members. I also thought it was a commendable act of restraint by the officer not to simply come in firing. He waited to see if the gunman could be persuaded by the board members and only acted when the gunman fired toward the chair. There is an abundance of courage shown by people in this video.
According to this report, Duke’s wife was fired and claimed a violation of her employment rights, but never filed suit. Police have reported that Duke appears to have planned the attacks — circling the date on his calendar.
Nevertheless, this is a remarkably sad video and a sad statement of our times in his economy.
mespo,
Because I like to play with my food? 🙂 lol
But point taken. It’s a bit like arguing with a chimpanzee about the correct way to use a screwdriver.
BIL & FFLeo:
Why waste another precious second debating Chan L. who comes to this intellectual fire-fight with a pop gun?
Did you get one of your lil’ buttons pushed, Chan?
Such a scathing indictment from a clown who advocates a “greed is good” philosophy.
Pardon me while I laugh my ass off.
Listen up, sport. Not all ideas are created equal nor are all speakers. Half-baked ideas from half-educated speakers deserve the drubbing they get, you know, just like your half-baked bullshit gets shredded too. If you don’t like that? Too bad. Adopt better ideas and learn to read (and more importantly understand) books instead of eating them. Her stunning lack of understanding of basics – like the meaning of the word capital – merits attack. Just like your nonsense merits attack. Your ideas and presentation are garbage. You don’t just get to make up a words meaning just to fit your argument. That’s called being intellectually dishonest: a form of lying. Just like the Libertarian lie that everything would be just fine if government let business do whatever they wanted without restriction and fear of repercussion. Lying to others or just lying to yourself, lies are always fair game as are liars.
If you don’t like that? Tough.
And as to your assessment of me personally? I don’t care what venal people think.
Now, next time you poke the bear and get bit? Don’t bitch about it. And here’s a little secret . . . you’re either born with a conscience or not.
Good luck shopping.
Chan L.
You have no justification whatsoever, even if you had the medical credentials, to attempt—rather pathetically—psychoanalytical or psychiatric evaluations of anyone based on their written submissions to an Internet blog/blawg.
Buddha is Laughing:
Conscience is a funny thing, it is developed over time and is formed by nurture unless there is some organic flaw.
Conscience is a value system that has been integrated into your consciousness/subconsciousness.
Based on your exchange with ekeyra, I would say you are totally devoid of a conscience and probably do have some sort of personality disorder although it could just be you are small minded/closed minded. There was no exchange of ideas or thoughtfulness on your part. You just attacked ekeyra relentlessly, denigrating his/her ideas by saying he/she was home schooled. As if that was sufficient to prove your point.
It is probably a typical MO with you.
News flash numb nut, http://www.phc.edu/PHCNews_2003_12_15.php.
Most of the team was home schooled.
You are small minded and have extremely limited life experiences. But then most liberals are rather sheltered from real life which is why they think their ideas will work in reality. And why you seem to be so well received on this blog. Most people I know, wouldnt let you into their mudroom.
Buddha is Laughing:
“Save the money, Chan.
Use it to buy yourself a conscience and we’ll call it even.”
A case of the Pot calling the Kettle black. Very funny indeed.
And to think that people still vote GOP!!!!
MFM sounds like a ‘bot’: no actual connection with a statement in a posting is present in her responses’, just key-word sentences strung together. her postings don’t quite pass the Turing test for me.
I don’t know but I’ve read that there are programs that do that, but sometimes I get my real science and science fiction mixed up.
For what it’s worth I thought the lady that brought a PURSE to a gunfight, even though she crept up behind him and had the element of surprise, acted foolishly and put the others at more risk. Now if she had a nice 10″ Henckels chef’s knife in that purse and had used that to ‘hit’ him in the back with I’d probably feel differently about it.
Here’s a real gun slinger
http://www.wimp.com/toogood/.
Gun control is not whether one should have the right to bear arms, gun control is being able to hit your target. 🙂
Well, I had to say something since pete has a quick and very good sense of humor, albeit somewhat twisted at times, as he once admitted (re; “if an American had caught that French baby that fell from the building, the guy would had spiked the kid and done an end zone victory dance (paraphrased)
The “Trolling For Dummies” book is available. Send a $1,000.00 cashier check to:
gbk
PO Box 666
Area 51
No zip or state required. I will promptly send the book on its way!
And yeah, MFM is serious. I guess I need to buy my mom a Glock instead of getting her roof fixed.
That was a good one, FFLEO.
Ok FFLeo, I read this when you posted it, and can only now respond: Why didn’t I think of that? LOL
Whelp pete, any gun nut knows that the grapefruit would be using grapeshot…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapeshot
pete:
“what kind of weapon was the grapefruit using?”
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Thanks pete, that was classic. Here’s another from “The Shootist” starring –who else? — John Wayne:
Gillom Rogers: [Books is giving Gillom gunfighting lessons] Mr. Books, my grouping of shots was tighter than yours. How is it you’ve killed so many men?
John Bernard Books: First thing is, that target wasn’t shooting back at you. Second, most men at that last second will flinch; I won’t.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piWCBOsJr-w&fs=1&hl=en_US]
AGW DENIER
1, December 15, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Otterray Scribe:
with a 9mm pistol I can hit a grapefruit at 25′ and I am just a weekend/hobby shooter. It isnt that hard.
what kind of weapon was the grapefruit using?
Save the money, Chan.
Use it to buy yourself a conscience and we’ll call it even.
GBK:
is that book available? I want to purchase one for Buddha is Laughing for Christmas.