Outside Chicago, car salesman John Stone was reportedly fired for the world’s most ill-conceived neck wear: a Packers tie. The sales manager at Webb Chevrolet ordered Stone to remove the tie and when he refused, he fired him.
When I first read this story, I was going to post it to show that Bears fans can be as idiotic as the Packers fan who roasted a bear. However, I am not so sure on second thought.
The position of Webb’s general manager Jerry Roberts was that wearing the tie the day after the historic loss of the NFC championship to the Packers would alienate (if not infuriate) customers. That was likely. This is after all a business and Roberts told Stone that it would not be good for sales. The dealership had just done a long promotion based on the Bears.
What do you think?
Source: Sun Times
Car salesman John Stone lands on his feet — and then some:
http://www.suntimes.com/3488244-417/stone-tie-packers-fired-wearing.html
If I’m not mistaken, Illinois is an employ at will state, which means you can quit, or be fired for any reason not violating the Civil Rights Act. From what I can tell, firing over the refusal to remove a tie the owner of the business finds potentially offensive to his customers was not a breach of the Civil Rights Act, and therefore technically legal in Illinois.
For the guy wearing the tie, the phrase, “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.” comes to mind. Perhaps he’ll leave his religous-sportswear at home for his next job.
Appropriate apparel for a car salesman is an orange jumpsuit.
Elaine M.
1, January 25, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Fuggedabout ties. I think all car salesmen should be required to wear ascots
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then car shopping would be like a bad scooby doo episode
i would have sold that clunker if it wasn’t for those meddling kids
Elaine M.
1, January 25, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Fuggedabout ties. I think all car salesmen should be required to wear ascots.
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lol
When what is important is nullified by consensus tradition, the trivial is all that remains to pretend is important.
Please do not imply that anyone other than the elite should be required to wear ascots. We do not want to be classified as such like attorneys.
Elaine said, “Fuggedabout ties. I think all car salesmen should be required to wear ascots.”
I must agree, but specifically for used car salesmen.
Anything that makes them easier to spot is a good thing.
And I’m sure there are many young ladies who frequent bars who would agree with that sentiment.
Well first off those images are from Penn State’s Meteorology Dept.
The specific section that I linked is the Tropical Atlantic E-Wall however there are many sections to the site. The four panels from top left to right are Wind Pressure Shear and Moisture those are the basics.
There are three models to choose, CMC Canadian Meterology Center, GFS Global Forecast System, and Navy(NOGAPS)
Bdaman:
what do those maps mean. The top left is wind speed but what are the other ones? Are they pressures, moisture?
Yea it’s going to bomb-if-i right on top of you.
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/GFSTROPATL_12z/gfsloop.html
mouse over the 12 hour increments at top left page and out of the 4 boxes watch the top right hand box.
Bdaman:
Thats probably the system that we are waiting on here in Jeresy to bring us snow starting Wednesday afternoon lasting off and on through SATURDAY,yikes !!
Looking at weather channel as I post.
Not sure at the moment of how deep the line will get into South Central Florida but we are receiving heavy rains. My backyard has at least 3′ of standing water. Significant rain event.
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/Conus/southeast.php
Larger image
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/Conus/full.php
Fuggedabout ties. I think all car salesmen should be required to wear ascots.
Most dealerships have a minimum payable commission on a vehicle sale. 14 cars at say a $200 minimum, which is reasonable considering it was a GM dealership, he made at least three grand last month. At 10 he probably went into the bonus round and got spiff money. So yes Mike your right, in all probabilities he for at least last month did do fairly well.
I would not have fired him and would not have asked him to take the tie off in the first place.
I’m guessing that there’s more to this story. This stinks of “oh good an excuse to fire him.”
If he was actually selling 14 cars a month he was doing quite well, if the commission per car was substantial. However, even if he was that good in a private business the employer should have the right to discharge, save for an actual violation of someone’s civil rights. I don’t think based on the facts given that the dismissal rises to the level of prejudice and that the Manager was acting within his rights and the welfare of the dealership. I was always known as a compassionate and indulgent boss to those who worked for me. However, if after the man’s 3rd refusal to remove the tie, I would have fired him, with the caveat that if he was a great salesman perhaps I would have sent him home. Business is there to make a profit and for most Americans there is nothing fair about how employees are treated. Do I thinks that’s right, no, but I don’t see current or futre law that would make such an action illegal.
“mr.ed 1, January 25, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Ya don’t think that complexion had anything to do with it, right? Nobody’d be that stoopid in 2011, right?”
He does turn out be a Black Man.
mespo:
OK, fanatic LOL!!!
What do you think?
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I think he should have worn this tie:
http://cdn.beautiesltd.com/images/uploads/pittsburgh-steelers-necktie.jpg
Ok, ok call me a fanatic!