We have another addition to our series of American Taliban, religious and political leaders who seem to struggle to match our enemies with their own brand of religious extremism and hateful speech. A blog on People for the American Way has an astonishing quote from former prosecutor and Tea Party founder Judson Phillips. Phillips wanted to tell the world that Bin Laden was wrapped in pig fat before he was buried and then questioned whether the President waited to announce the killing during Donald Trump’s The Apprentice out of spite.
Phillips previously argued for a return to limiting voting to just property owners. However, with this response, he reached a new level of extreme and hateful rhetoric. He spends time first denying Obama credit for the operation and then says that it was a success despite his efforts. The fact is that I have always been surprised by the credit given presidents in these operations. I cannot imagine a President doing anything other than green lighting such an operation. That is precisely how I felt about Bush parading about to take credit for the “victory” in Iraq and other operations. I do not recall Phillips criticizing Bush on such occasions.
However, it is the degree to unrefined hate directed toward both Obama and Muslims that makes this statement standout — even in these extreme times. Phillips shows that unhinged extremism and religious hatred can be found in every country, including this country.
Here is his statement:
It took almost ten years, but Osama is dead. That is the good news.
The bad news is Obama is going to do what most politicians do, especially the liberal politicians. He is going to take credit for something that not only he had little to do with, but had we actually listened to him, the event never would have happened.
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What should have happened, which would not happen under the Obama regime and to be fair, the Bush administration was too politically correct to do this either, but Osama’s body should have not been immediately buried. We should have told everyone that the body was wrapped in pig fat before burial.
Why?
It is not just the visceral insult. It is sending a message. Contrary to what the politically correct say, Osama does represent the mainstream of Islam. By defiling the body, we say that you are not getting your 72 virgins. This should be the policy we have with every Islamic terrorist we capture. If you die, we are going to deny you paradise. If we capture you, we are going to feed you nothing but pork until you talk.
Obama is taking credit for this. He did give the order. Did he really have a choice? If word leaked out that he had solid intelligence on where Bin Laden was and did not act, it would have killed any chance he had at reelection. Of course, he made his announcement right in the middle of Donald Trump’s “Celebrity Apprentice” show. Of course, that was just a coincidence.
I’d love to ask this guy: Are we so weak that we have to resort to these tactics or else we’ll loose against these vile medieval recreationists? Do you see any value to attempting to act like “good guys”?
It’s a bit off-topic here, but I am (in part) named after Thomas Moore. There’s a nice little exchange in the fictionalized bio-pic “A Man for All Seasons” that I’ve thought of a lot during the “War on Terror”:
William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
William Roper: Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that!
Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!
Mr. Phillips is heir to that old southern tradition of taking the wife, the kids and a picnic basket to the town square whenever a lynching was planned. Ah, such happy times!
dallysdad said it all!!!!!
I wish the T-Potty would get off the T and get on the potty, then they would not be so full of it.
dallysdad,
…”can I have my rights back now?”
I’ll echo that question.
We need to “look homeward”…
Cool OBL is dead, can I have my rights back now?
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 14:45 ET
War Room
A patriot’s guide to still hating Obama for killing Osama
By Alex Pareene
Osama bin Laden, the founder of al-Qaida and the mastermind of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, was recently killed by American commandos, which is, for Real American Patriots, a Good Thing. But Barack Obama is getting all the credit, which is, for said residents of the authentic portion of this glorious nation, decidedly a Bad Thing. How is a typically bloodthirsty right-winger supposed to revel in America’s victory over an enemy while still detesting the socialist usurper in the White House who made this victory possible? It’s easier than you might think. All you need — as with most right-wing thought — is a bit of cognitive dissonance. Here are your talking points:
This was all thanks to George W. Bush
Osama bin Laden was killed thanks to the resolve and fortitude of President George W. Bush. Pointing out that the Bush administration tried, failed, and then largely gave up on capturing bin Laden, is “politicizing the bin Laden kill.” (“Politicizing” is when Democrats take credit for something good and popular.)
This was also thanks to torture
The United States doesn’t torture. It’s just a fact. Also, torture works. That is also just a fact. So what the Bush administration did was not torture, but also the Bush administration was justified in torturing because torture is how we found bin Laden. We totally waterboarded the hell out of terrorists until they told us what we wanted to know! (But also waterboarding is not such a big deal.)
(The fact that the information that eventually led to the identification of the courier that led us to bin Laden was obtained through non-enhanced interrogation, of course, is proof that Guantanamo must remain open forever.)
Liberals (and Obama) are not happy enough about bin Laden’s death
As Christian Broadcasting Network correspondent David Brody already pointed out, Barack Obama did not even look very happy when he announced that Osama bin Laden was dead:
I know President Obama understands that getting Bin Laden doesn’t mean an end to the war on terrorism but how about a smile? How about showing a little joy? How about a word or two saying something about how this is no doubt a happy or joyous occasion for Americans? We got nothing like that at all.
Obama did not smile in part because he was appeasing Arab thugs, but also because liberals hate it when America wins, because liberals hate America. It’s true! As Jim Geraghty points out, various contributors to some pinko rag called Salon expressed feelings and opinions that fell short of unadulterated glee — there were even reservations about whether or not this decade-long trillion-dollar campaign was completely worth it — which is proof that squishy liberals are not as American as real Americans.
Bill Clinton is responsible for 9/11
So a Democratic president killed Osama bin Laden. So what? Osama bin Laden was only able to do 9/11 because of Bill Clinton, who was too busy renting out the Lincoln Bedroom to the hitman he hired to kill Vince Foster to bother to capture and kill bin Laden in the ’90s. Everyone knows this.
Just like everyone knew, back when Bill Clinton was president, that his various “anti-terrorism” campaigns were naked dog-wagging attempts to distract from his many scandals.
Osama bin Laden wasn’t such a big deal anyway
I mean, he was a figurehead. Just one part of al-Qaida. Not even a very big part. Like the Queen of England, basically. Mostly symbolic.
Besides he was probably better off alive, because now he’s a martyr. We should’ve just let him live in his stupid house. Obama ruins everything.
Burying him at sea is a slap in the face to 9/11 victims
He should’ve been publicly defiled or something, because that’s how America proves its superiority.
Full-on conspiracy theories
Did you know that Osama’s been dead for years, kept on ice, until Obama needed a poll boost? Also he’s not really dead, and also he’s been dead since 2002. Also Obama didn’t even want to kill Osama but the military made him. And Obama only did this to silence Donald Trump.
Alex Pareene writes about politics for Salon. Email him at apareene@salon.com and follow him on Twitter @pareene More: Alex Pareene
http://www.salon.com/news/osama_bin_laden/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/05/03/osama_reactions_guide
Gingerbaker, the Scots have a proverb for everything:
“Dail chuach am bainne ghobhar, suath ri d’ aghaidh, ’s chan eil mac rìgh air an domhan nach bi nad dhèidh.”
(With violets and goats’ milk anoint your face, and every king’s son in the world will be after you.)
I don’t know about pig fat, but wrapping myself in bacon grease has a certain je ne sais quoi.
It seems to me that I remember reading some years ago that the British officials in India,when there was some insurrection and it was caused by Muslim soldiers it was decided to shoot the traitors from the front of cannons and take the bits and pieces that were left over and put them into hog skins and bury them….Another great moral idea from Victoria and all the British Asses, of that period
“Phillips wanted to tell the world that Bin Laden was wrapped in pig fat before he was buried and then questioned whether the President waited to announce the killing during Donald Trump’s The Apprentice out of spite.”
Translation – “I got nothin’. So, being the petty and infantile bonehead that I am, and because most American’s are now beginning to see us teabaggers as the insane fruit loops we are, I will stamp my feet and hold my breath because the black man did what the white man, with all his posturing and preening, could not.”
Highly unlikely Obama interrupted The Clown’s teevee show on purpose. That would be stooping to the childish, low, and below-scum level of the teabaggers. But, even if he did, I would still giggle my ass off.
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rcampbell,
“I’m sure many were politically astute enough to be aware that the announcement would provide a telling contrast between BEING the President and Trump presiding over his Sunday fluff-fest.”
BINGO!
Vigilance indeed, MerryMargie.
I’m with ChaZ on this one. I doubt the timing was deliberate, but I’m sure many were politically astute enough to be aware that the announcement would provide a telling contrast between BEING the President and Trump presiding over his Sunday fluff-fest.
Hate to break it to Mr. Phillips, but I am pretty sure that a Muslim martyr’s status is not affected by the manner of the disposal of his remains.
I remember all of the analysis of the martyrdom issue during the 9/11 tragedy. My recollection is that when they die doing Jihad, they go straight up to wherever and get to enjoy their 72 virgins/raisens (there’s a controversy over the Arabic word for “what they get”), no matter how their corpses are buried.
Phillips wanted to tell the world that Bin Laden was wrapped in pig fat before he was buried and then questioned whether the President waited to announce the killing during Donald Trump’s The Apprentice out of spite.
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I think it’s pretty clear who is the rightful owner of the spite crown.
This is yet another reason that the Tea Party is not in charge of America — yet. Vigilance!
And Donald Trump’s show was the only program being broadcast at the time our President made the announcement? Everything’s about “The Donald!” I suppose President Obama should have delayed the announcement until The Apprentice was over.
Judson Phillips–a nasty little tea party hypocrite. I think people like Phillips aren’t happy unless they have someone/something to spew their hateful rhetoric about.
Honestly, if Obama did actually make the announcement during the “Apprentice” just to spite Trump, good for him!
On other hand, if he did that during the Super Bowl or NBA Championship games, that’s different…
Lastly, it wouldn’t serve us any purpose to bury him in pig fat, it would only make billions of people with different religion beliefs very mad and it would be an insult toward their faiths not because of who Bin Laden is. He’s stupid to be espousing such suggestion, and I won’t be surprised if he gets blown up to pieces by an extremist in near future.
Mr. Obama,
You just cannot win. Why did you not wait until after the Elections to Announce something like this. you are upsetting these people apple carts.
Of course he did and he turned Black just to piss the Tea Party off as well…. Of course…. and because his name is Obama he has a fix with the Oil futures….