We have seen in the Republican primary how candidates have engaged in a type of race to the bottom in embracing torture and suggesting that they would launch attacks against Iran and other countries. In this debate, the law and the Constitution are often dismissed as weak considerations for a strong president. Not to be outdone in such macho posturing, the Obama campaign has mocked Mitt Romney for even suggesting that he would consult with lawyers before launching attacks or taking critical actions. Stephanie Cutter, President Obama’s Deputy Campaign Manager, delivered the message on MSNBC that Obama was strong because he didn’t need no stinkin’ lawyers.
Cutter appeared on MSNBC to offer this analysis of Romney:
The most egregious falsehood would be the President’s position on Iran, whether it’s Mitt Romney or Rick Santorum, attacking the President for not being tough enough on Iran. Ask any foreign policy expert out there, we have the toughest sanctions in place today than we’ve had in decades thanks to this President. . . . Now look at Mitt Romney. What he didn’t say on the stage tonight is that just four years ago, when asked the same question on Iran, he said he’d have to check with his lawyers. That does not make a Commander-in-Chief, somebody who has to check with his lawyers.
Of course, Obama has shown repeatedly that he has the “strength” to not only ignore lawyers, but ignore the law. On torture, he promised CIA officials that they would never be prosecuted despite his acknowledgment that waterboarding is torture — a war crime under controlling treaties. On Libya, he launched a war without achieving authorization from Congress. [For full disclosure, I represented the members challenging this war in federal court]. For areas ranging from privacy to detention, Obama has proven the type of strong leadership that Cutter describes. Her comments vividly illustrate that the White House has little concern for the objections by civil libertarians and will continue to model Obama on the image of George Bush — the strong leader who refuses to be weakened by lawyers.
Cutter’s comments should be condemned by the President but they will not be. It was not even challenged on MSNBC at the time or in later segments. After all, this election is only about “them” and not “us.” Moreover Cutter was reading from a script that has been followed since the very beginning of Obama’s term. The image of the strongman, so popular in places like Russia, has found a place in the United States. In this new paradigm, the law and the Constitution are synonymous with weakness. Even consulting with lawyers is an indication of a lack of character and strength.
By the way, Cutter is a lawyer (trained at Georgetown).
Glenn Greenwald has an excellent piece on the comments.
And the Lord Jim sayeth unto them, “So he who shall, so shall he who.”
No one cares about American Airlines meeting tonight. I think the government should let them tank if they can’t raise the capital.
Jim the video works fine for me. Try this link. It goes directly to YouTube.
http://youtu.be/xW63SZ1LAqo
Jim:
That rustling sound above you is the sound of the earth collapsing as you dig yourself farther down into that hole. It’s time for “the earth is only 6000 years old and I can prove it line.”You’re a hoot and better than an episode of Modern Family! Please, carry on.
mespo727272,
My pleasure.
Jim sez: “he law of Cause and Effect not only describes that for every effect
there must have been a cause, it also tells us that the cause must be
greater than the effect. No one can create anything greater than
themselves. You do not get an increase in intelligence or complexity
without the input from a greater intelligence.”
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A perfect example of what psychologists and logicians call verbal diarrhea. A lot of words with little or no understanding, with an attempted cover up by rambling.
Otteray Scribe
Video doesn’t work. That proves nothing other than seeing the tree limbs moving is an indication of wind. That is not actually seeing the wind. The wind you see is the wind coming out of both ends of your mouth.
Jim,
Turn that other cheek. Forgive them 70 times 7.
That doesn’t count for tonight. It’s like skipping an AA meeting. Tempting the Devil that is within you is never a good idea.
Jim sez: “Explosions do not produce ever increasing order and structure.
Explosions produce disorder and chaos. Explosions break things down or
destroy what was previously ordered.”
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Your failure to understand chaos theory apparently equals your failure to understand fluid dynamics.
“All good fundies are in church on Friday night. It keeps them out of the bars. Get thyself to church.”
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And to Thank You Jesus, I can only say “Thank you, Jesus.” LOL
Otteray Scribe
The law of Cause and Effect not only describes that for every effect
there must have been a cause, it also tells us that the cause must be
greater than the effect. No one can create anything greater than
themselves. You do not get an increase in intelligence or complexity
without the input from a greater intelligence.
Thank You Jesus
I was in church on Friday two weeks ago.
Jim, your failboat just docked.
I am an aviator. The wind can be proven and is well understood scientifically. It can be seen using smoke trails in wind tunnels. Want to get into a discussion of Bernoulli’s principle and Venturi’s work?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW63SZ1LAqo&feature=related
Care to try again, old chap?
Jim should be in church. All good fundies are in church on Friday night. It keeps them out of the bars. Get thyself to church.
The concept of a “Big Bang” producing the universe is absolutely
illogical. Explosions do not produce ever increasing order and structure.
Explosions produce disorder and chaos. Explosions break things down or
destroy what was previously ordered.
The law of Cause and Effect not only describes that for every effect
there must have been a cause, it also tells us that the cause must be
greater than the effect. No one can create anything greater than
themselves. You do not get an increase in intelligence or complexity
without the input from a greater intelligence.
Oh another ballon that needs to be pricked.
I feel like Adlai Stevenson:
Otteray Scribe
Do you see the wind? But it exists.