Migliorini’s virginity was the subject of bids by 15 people– an auction organized by Jason Sisely, an Australian filmmaker.
Alex Stepanov, 21, from Sydney, also put his virginity up for sale, but was able to collect only £1,860 from a Nene B from Brazil.
Migliorini will be flown to Australia where she and Stepanov will meet the winning bidders and lose their virginity. Under the contract, the minimum time the virgin must spend with the bidder is one hour and in that time “the virgin must engage in sexual intercourse with the highest bidder”.
Notably, Migliorini denied being a prostitute. “I saw this as a business. I have the opportunity to travel, to be part of a movie and get a bonus with it.” Of course, most prostitute view their work also as a business, but Migliorini insisted “[i]f you only do it once in your life then you are not a prostitute, just like if you take one amazing photograph it does not automatically make you a photographer.”
That does not seem a particularly convincing line of argument. It is reminiscent of the famous Churchillian story about “price.” According to legend, Winston Churchill once asked a socialite if she would sleep with him for 1 million pounds. When she admitted that she would, he offered one pound. “Winston! What sort of woman do you think I am?,” the woman objected. He responded, “We have already established what you are, now we are just haggling over price.”
Nevertheless, she might be on better ground arguing that this is ultimately a moral choice. Virginity clearly does not mean much to her and she sees it as a commodity to be sold. The money that she will receive is enough to set her up for life. If this is a consensual agreement between adults, should society still criminalize the conduct. After all, she can legally have sex with in infinite number of partners. She also can legally receive an assortment of gifts before such encounters from meals to trips to jewelry. It is not unknown for individuals to sleep with others to achieve benefits of various sorts, but are not considered prostitutes. Likewise, a porn star can have sex with dozens of partners for money but not be charged with prostitution since it is done on film. What is left is an uncertain line in defining prostitution.
Yet, when she wants to accept money for such services, she would be considered by most as committing the crime of prostitution. So long as these arrangements involve consenting adults, should the arrangements still be considered criminal?
Source: IBT
Malisha,
Awful lot of nannies here!
“Get outa my pussy. If there is an idiot who wants to impress his jap buddies with his cash, then I’m willing.”, says the Brazilian woman.
Churchill found one. And I don’t care what the others do with them.
Now we are back discussing what women do with their bodies. Isn’t that what we disparage the Repugs and evangelists for doing?
dREDD:
you are right, I should have said the eunuchs in the Russian government.
Are there any Brasilian girls left who are still virgins? I doubt it though. But it is a nice business model if they can ” rehymenise” themselves as it often happens to the Muslim girls in Germany.
Brasil is a well known a plastic surgery haven and is one of the best plastic surgery countries in the world. A friend of mine who is one of them is a gazzilionere. Many Americans and Europeans go there for this purpose
After having lived in Brasil for 10 years, I have come to know a lot about the country which I visit quite often. One of the best thing is that If one went out with a chic and she liked you on the first date but you did not have sex with her, you would be labelled gay. This was the culture then and still remains now as well.
One more anecdote about this fantastic Brasil. The country is littered with Motels with mirrored ceilings.It is because most of the kids live with their parents till they get married. So, cousins meet cousins while waiting in the parking lots for a room vacancy for an hour to have their go.
Malisha,
I have little doubt that we have members of the GOP who would love to return to those “good ole days” when women knew their place and lived only to serve the men in their lives.
Oh John, most of us realized that there were many kinds of slaves. The enslavement of the African Americans for about 300 years was accompanied by slave laws, however, so it was capable of identification and opposition by means recorded in the history of the many rather than the still true stories of the few.
Also, in terms of actual sociological conditions women were slaves in the institution of marriage well into the 20th century. Some would say beyond…
Bron 1, October 26, 2012 at 8:35 am
Dredd:
Putin has a problem, I know this isnt your old Soviet Union. That they still exist as human beings is proof that Russia’s leadership is full of pu$$ies.
Putin cant even control his women and yet Obama is willing to be more flexible?
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Calling people who are perceived as weak “pu$$ies is sexist.
Pussy Riot proves that to be wrong headed.
Where are the
real menactivists with the “big muskels” (Popeye) standing up to Putin?Gene H The only confusion here was your conflation of prostitutes and sex therapists.
Ahh there’s the problem, you posted the definition of a prostitute…which states that she receives money for sex.
I was merely trying to point out that a flat statement like that, with no exceptions, encompasses ANY incident. By that definition.
Which you seemed to agree with, by calling her a prostitute under that definition.
Anyway I guess we’re squared away….hopefully.
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BTW liked your post: “But prostitution between (and this is a key distinction) between consenting adults? That is a victimless crime. Slavery vitiates consent as does the age of minority.”
oh also, no John isn’t my real name. But I will say my Grand Mother was 15 when she married my Grand Father who was 32 years older than her.
And also my great grandmother was a slave.
When their parents died in a flu epidemic at Ellis Island, her brother was sent to relatives in NY, and the girl was sent to an Aunt in Iowa.
The Aunt sold her into bondage to a farmer. After the farmer’s wife died, he loaded her onto the buckboard & took her to town to marry her.
For some reason people only think blacks were slaves back then.
Later—
rafflaw,
We have politicians who sell themselves/their services to the highest bidders. I guess we could call them prostitutes and no different from this young woman.
Rafflaw, why are we assuming she must offer something to society?
Perhaps she only wants to get as much as possible for herself and if that is true, it’s probably not only perfectly legal but culturally appropriate. I don’t even know.
I agree with you that it is a sick situation. But this sick situation is a natural “unintended consequence” of a sick society and we are undoubtedly that and this young woman is not to blame for the fact that she has been born and raised in it. She will not be doing anything illegal unless she departs from the script. If she does depart from the script and do something illegal, it’s difficult to figure out who, if anyone, will prosecute. If any of that happens she will presumably have a debt to society and THEN she will presumably be required to somehow pay that debt, but as of now, none of that having happened, I say she doesn’t owe me or the rest of society anything, and if she never offers me anything, I won’t be terribly upset.
Wow! What a discussion about a sick situation. Although I agree that sex between two consenting adults should not be illegal, selling yourself on the internet is disgusting. Is this the only thing this young woman has to offer society?
Legalizing prostitution could end up being a libertarian’s nightmare. It would be an administrative nightmare for the government also. More laws, more records, IRS involvement, homeland security involvement,……… and i think the majority of it would still stay underground. We will just have to disagree.
Bron,
As we’ve discussed many times before, you can’t end regulation – it serves a legitimate and legal function – but we do need to have better more rational and less regulation geared to protect big industry from competition from below. On the tax issue? That’s a little extreme, but it goes to what I’ve contended all along – those at the higher end of the income spectrum be they individuals or corporations should bear the proportionally greater tax burden as they receive the bigger share of the benefits from our tax spending.
Elaine:
The powerful on both sides of the aisle stick it to the people.
End regulation and taxation now for people and business making less than $200,000/year. Power to the people.
Elaine,
I’m the last one to argue that law enforcement, both in terms of actual enforcement and equal enforcement, are not some of the first victims of the corruption that runs rife in our government. The love of money destroys everything it touches and it drives corruption at the base. We won’t see any improvement in this until we remove unfettered unlimited “campaign contributions” from both the electoral system and remove money from the lobbying equation while shutting the revolving door between lobbying and public office.
Gene,
Just a thought: I’d say that we have seen a lot of financial corruption and unethical practices in the arena of legitimate businesses/corporations and on Wall Street in recent years. Was it all legal? I wonder if we’ll ever know. I happen to think that the mafia has infiltrated many “legitimate” businesses.
Wherever there is lots of money to be made, you’ll find those willing to do almost anything to enrich themselves.
“Gene, It could be a victimless crime but most often is not . Throw underage prostitutes, abuse, slavery, drugs, pimps into the mix.”
Again, that is from emotion. Legalized prostitution would mitigate if not eliminate the abuse, drugs, pimps and open use of under age prostitutes provided that laws and regulations are enforced. In places like the Netherlands where prostitution is legal, the problems they experience today (which are considerable as related to slavery, but not so much as related to drugs) are more directly attributable to lack of enforcement coupled with a huge organized crime element. It’s like gambling in the early days of Vegas. In the late 50’s, early 60’s it was a lawless wild west gangster paradise. It was until the 70’s and 80’s when large corporations came in with the financial and governmental leverage to drive the gangsters out and/or underground again. The same dynamic should work with prostitution. Once legalized prostitution becomes a legitimate business with real regulation it would be just like Vegas after the corporations came in and drove the mob out: Disneyland with hookers who get screed for STD’s, proper record keeping and wage practices, and the workers protected by legitimate security personnel rather than socio- and psychopathic pimps.
I suspect we are simply going to disagree on this matter.
smom:
slavery is the problem. Anytime your energies are used to support someone else and you are not free to act on your own volition it is slavery.
Gene, It could be a victimless crime but most often is not . Throw underage prostitutes, abuse, slavery, drugs, pimps into the mix. I don’t think it is going to become legal anymore than polygamy is going to become the law of the land.
She better get the cash up front seems thats a lot of money for a piece.
Smom,
The problem with that analysis is there are only a small handful of places where prostitution is legal. It skews the sample space. If prostitution were legal, it could be licensed and monitored to mitigate the minors problem. The problem there is you are dealing with pedophiles who will without doubt turn to slavers if they have the means no matter if consensual sex with adults is legal or not. Again, tangential, but keeping prostitution among consensual adults illegal in no way mitigates the slavery issue and probably exacerbates it as not all of their “product” is under aged. Many are girls of age and lured from foreign countries with promises of real jobs and a better life somewhere else only to find out they are the victims of pimps and slavers. You are arguing from emotion. Slavery no matter the final disposition of the “product” is simply wrong and should remain illegal no matter what. But prostitution between (and this is a key distinction) between consenting adults? That is a victimless crime. Slavery vitiates consent as does the age of minority.