There are just some lines that politicians should leave to others like Senator Vitter (R., La.) denouncing others as “prostitutes” or former Senator Craig (R., Idaho) denouncing the critics for “pandering” to voters (as hypothetical examples). Bill Clinton reached that point Monday when he asked without a shadow of discomfort or awkwardness when voters really wanted a president who would lie to them with a straight face.
Clinton demanded to know “who wants a president who will knowingly, repeatedly tell you something he knows is not true?” He was not done yet as the irony level began to rise above his waist: “When I was a kid, if I got my hand caught in the cookie jar, where it wasn’t supposed to be, I turned red in my face, and I took my hand out of the cookie jar. You’ve got to give it to Governor Romney. When he gets his hand caught in the cookie jar, he just digs down for more cookies.”
Well, I have to give it to Clinton. Politicians often “transcend” their past votes and scandals. However, to set out to lecture folks on the need for presidents to be fully honest and truthful with the American people is not exactly a strength for our 42nd President. I understand his point. But, as one of the people who testified in the Clinton impeachment hearings, I wonder whether he is the guy who should deliver it.
Source:
lotta. is McCaskill going to win?
“Addressing a Congressional committee investigating the possible impeachment of President Clinton in 1998, Tribe stated, “The Constitution, in this matter…leaves ample room for judgment, even for wisdom, in the deployment of power. What it leaves no room for is the impeachment of a president who has not committed…’high Crimes and Misdemeanors.'” Laurence Tribe
Totally OT but cool- keeping in mind that people on social media do, on occasion, lie:
real-time voting tracking via a Facebook prompt.
http://www.facebookstories.com/vote
“Somethings are black & white for me. I would not vote for Clinton again. However, I realize that in taking that position I would be in the smallest minority in the country.”
But you wouldn’t be alone. 😀
(On supper break)
Although the lie was about a blow job and a ridiculous question to be coming out of any man’s mouth (pun fully intended), it was still a lie under oath and thus an impeachable offense.
The following is from Senate Session Feb. 8, 1999
THERE ARE LAW PROFESSORS WHO TESTIFIED IN OUR HEARING WHO HAVE THE CONTRARY VIEW TO THE VIEW THAT WAS EXPRESSED BY OTHER LAW PROFESSORS THAT MR.
RUFF REFERRED TO, THAT YOU CAN, IT IS CONSTITUTIONAL TO IMPEACH A PRESIDENT FOR CONDUCT THAT’S NOT CLEARLY OFFICIAL, THAT MIGHT BE DESCRIBED AS PERSONAL. AND PARTICULARLY CONDUCT OF PERJURY OR IMPEACH — OR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
PROFESSOR TURLEY SAYS, “IN MY VIEW, SERIOUS CRIMES IN OFFICE SUCH AS LYING UNDER OATH BEFORE A FEDERAL GRAND JURY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MAL INANSAE FOR WHICH A PRESIDENT AND A SUFFICIENT GROUNDS FOR IMPEACHMENT.
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/clip/28968
In my opinion Professor Turley was correct then and pointing to Clinton’s words now is simply a matter of consistency on J. Turley’s part.
Somethings are black & white for me. I would not vote for Clinton again. However, I realize that in taking that position I would be in the smallest minority in the country.
Michael Murray,
Thanks for coming when truth needs defending.
Do we have a crypto-Republican here? Leading the place?
What Maggincat said.
Would like to have a link, if there is one, to any blog on the Professor’s testimony on Clinton impeachment.
DonS,
“Still the sleazy pol who accelerated the dem party down the corporatist slope.”
How can that be. It was already going at light speed since Lyndon lied about the Bay of Tonkin and tripped Congress into starting a war. Took 60,000 lives and over 10 years to get out. Not even Dick did it either for the Repubs.
Pure chutzpah!
Stealing from the SS Trust Fund helps create a budget “surplus”, BTW.
Oh, please, Professor. Why don’t you just come out and demand universal genuflecting before the altar of the “sacred” perjury trap? I mean, if you can’t convict a man of a genuine crime committed outside the courtroom, then drag him into a courtroom and charge him with a transgression against court procedures. The Fellatio Impeachment of former President Clinton will forever stain the American political and legal system with a lurid, prurient childishness unthinkable in most grown-up countries.
Of course, President Clinton does deserve a rap on the knuckles for failing to remember that “a lawyer who defends himself in court has a fool for a client.” Everyone enjoys the Fifth Amendment protection against having the government force them to testify against their own interests, and I remember many eminent legal minds at the time advising President Clinton to assert his rights and simply remain silent, letting his accusers bear the burden of proving their accusations — which had something to do with a woman named Paula Jones who alleged in a civil suit that former Arkansas governor Bill Clinton had said something suggestive to her in an Arkansas hotel room eleven years before President Clinton met Monica Lewinsky doing volunteer work at the White House.
What a cosmic joke. And that you would sully your own reputation by agreeing to “testify” at that historic farce, says something about your own values that perhaps you should seriously ponder.
A few months ago Clinton was hawking some book he wrote on creating jobs.I laughed and then I trew up in my mouth a little. As president he (along with a Republican Congress) repealed the Glass–Steagall Act, gave China most favored nation trading status, and past NAFTA. Our voting public is beyond stupid. Democrats cheer him because he won. Period. Republicans like to call the moderates in their party” RINO’s” (Republicans In Name Only). For the very same reason I like to call Clinon an “Ass-Hat”.We had a buget surplus and a good economy under Clinton because of a revolution in the computing and software industry. If he helps get Obama elected that’s great. I hope he will then disappear.
SMom
Im not surprised to see Romney surrounding himself with disgusting people. Birds of a feather…
The Romney surrogates included some disgusting individuals….. Ted Nugent, Donald Trump and John Sununu.
I don’t know why my two previous posts were under different names, but John530 and Chris are the same person.
I agree. If you are the Commander in Chief and the people that are in your command are held to a standard, then you should be held to the same standard, President or not.
Chris, If that’s the case, then Roosevelt, Eisenhower, and Kennedy, just to name a few, should have been forced out.
If a nuclear submarine commander loses his/her job for having an affair, then the Commander in Chief should be held to the same standard.
“This is a country of laws, not men.” -nick spinelli
Not from where I’m sitting. (Appearances are deceiving.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVepvFmwz_Q
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“I did not have sex with THAT woman — now, Gennifer,, Juanita, __et aliae”
“osama” did it, and we’ll prove it” “These _____(9-11) conspiracy theories”.
“The fire commander made that decision to PULL IT” (Larry “Megabillion Silver Dollars” silverstein.