This week we saw how NSA Director General Keith Alexander called on the government to find a way to stop the free press from being . . . well . . . a free press and publish Snowden documents. This follows statements from Sen. Dianne Feinstein and other denouncing both Snowden and the media despite admissions (as a result of those disclosures) that the government has made a variety of violations of U.S. and international laws. Now, even as his country decries the disclosure of over monitoring of foreign leaders and citizens, British Prime Minister David Cameron has said that he intends to stop English papers like the Guardian of informing of the public of the content of these Snowden documents.
Cameron announced that “If they (newspapers) don’t demonstrate some social responsibility it will be very difficult for government to stand back and not to act.”
The “social responsibility” referenced by Cameron does not appear to include informing the public of the attack on privacy or even the exercise of the rights of a free press. Indeed, informing the public on the effort to make their lives transparent to the government — even foreign governments — is viewed by Cameron as an abuse. It is a fascinating disconnect. Leaders are scrambling to public condemn U.S. programs and demand answers in the wake of the Snowden disclosures while trying to shutdown further disclosures. However, the problem now is not some whistleblower but the free press that is endangering society by informing it of the truth.
Ah. Here is a tune to the tune of Hello Motha Hello fatha, here I am in Camp Granada written by Allan Sherman.
Here comes Feinstein, with her sailor…
She looks grumpy, old and frailer.
Folks from Frisco, come in senile.
Vote them out when m times get venile.
You remember ,, Ernest Fleming
He got toe mine, after dinner!
Hello mudda , hello fadda here I am in Camp Grenada.
Back when I was a kid there was a comedian/musician named Allan Sherman. He had a song out on tv and radio called “Little David Susskind, Shut Up!” For those of you who are old enough to recall it (and not reading this blurb from Heaven and can respond) can anyone send in the lyrics here. We need to sing something to Clapper, Alexander and now this Cameron snake that will put them in their place.
Little David Cameron… Shut Up.
Yeah, I agree with BarkinDog and go one further and say that Cameron is an enema of the people and Snowden is a nurse’s aide who has come to the aide of his country and world.
Metadata, metadata, ain’t nuthin but trash. Or so says the NSA.. And if so then Snowden did not reveal any state secrets to enemas.
Mike Appleton:
“Political forces around the world are frustrated because they are unable to put the internet genie back in the bottle.”
Let’s hope they don’t take the internet from us. That might be next on the chopping block.
BarkinDog:
In complete agreement with you.
Sorry Jill,
I disagree about Hillary… Not about being a woman, but about her connections. What? She didn’t know, as Secratay of State, that the Govt she represented was spying on the very
terroristsDiplomats she was meeting with?I’m going to add a big talking point. We must elect Hillary Clinton in 2016. She is a woman. She has distanced herself from Obama, meaning, the propagandists have told you that she is to be seen as distanced from Obama even though she, like him, is pro-torture, pro-drone, pro-imprisonment without trial, pro-destruction of the Constitution. But hey, we need a woman president. Any woman will do, right?
This is interesting. Here are NSA’s talking points! We have seen these many times.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/30/revealed-nsa-pushed911askeysoundbitetojustifysurveillance.html
When you steal a state secret like the formula for an atomic bomb and give it to the Russians then you are a traitor. When you rat out John Kennedy for porkin Marilyn Monroe then you are revealing a secret but you are hardly a traitor. All this metadata stuff is not the nature of A bomb stuff. Snowden is a hero.
Pete, right. They need to get out their (our) checkbooks now.
http://www.alternet.org/dhs-and-nsa-threaten-sue-man-selling-department-homeland-stupidity-t-shirts-and-coffee-mugs
Lotta,
I’ve been following Fukushima since 3/11/11.
Japan is acting in a criminal nature towards its own people and with much contempt towards the rest of the world.
LOL, now my comment posted twice and I didn’t do it, WP did. It wanted me to resign in and then did a double posting. A GB can remove one of them if they’re so inclined. WP hates me.
Dredd
1, October 30, 2013 at 5:35 pm
Thanks for that historical perspective. The masses can often and surprisingly be manipulated to perform very good and very evil actions. It’s all in the messaging…..
Max-1, Japan secrecy:
I had not read that, thanks for the link. Fukushima is totally FUBAR and the plans and current maneuvers to moderate its damage, stave off future damage and ‘fix-it’ are iffy to FUBAR. TEPCO can’t afford it and the citizens are going to get stuck with the bill.
If the plan to remove the fuel rods from reactor #4 and into casks/cooling tanks don’t go well it could make the situation worse, much worse. There are not all spent, some are new and the rest aren’t ‘cold’. (from WJS) The removal starts in November.
The 100′ sunken damn doesn’t have a chance of keeping the contaminated water out of the sea and getting to the melted piles isn’t even on the horizon -too much debris on them and since they melted determining exactly where they are could be a problem if this was indeed a China Syndrome accident. Everything I’ve read lately indicates that it was in at least 1 and probably 3 reactors.
Japan and the citizens of the world have been lied too about the magnitude of the failure and the continuing problems of the clean up. The possible effects and dangers, long and short term for the Japanese and the world have not been fully disclosed. The government has already raised the acceptable limit for some kinds of radiation exposures and leaks. This law could make that information going forward secret, that kind of information and every other kind of information regarding Fukushima.
While correlation is not causality the timing of this state secrecy act is sure as hell suspicious as they ready to start removing those rods.
http://rt.com/news/fukushima-fuel-cleanup-operation-522/
from WSJ: “Tepco will remove about 1,300 spent fuel rods and 200 new fuel rods stored in a pool in the reactor building,” (check out the first comment discussing rods v assemblies):
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2013/10/30/fukushima-watch-watchdog-approves-tepcos-plan-to-retrieve-fuel-rods/
And regarding your 9/11 joke: 🙂
Max-1, Japan secrecy:
I had not read that, thanks for the link. Fukushima is totally FUBAR and the plans and current maneuvers to moderate its damage, stave off future damage and ‘fix-it’ are iffy to FUBAR. TEPCO can’t afford it and the citizens are going to get stuck with the bill.
If the plan to remove the fuel rods from reactor #4 and into casks/cooling tanks don’t go well it could make the situation worse, much worse. There are not all spent, some are new and the rest aren’t ‘cold’. (from WJS) The removal starts in November.
The 100′ sunken damn doesn’t have a chance of keeping the contaminated water out of the sea and getting to the melted piles isn’t even on the horizon -too much debris on them and since they melted determining exactly where they are could be a problem if this was indeed a China Syndrome accident. Everything I’ve read lately indicates that it was in at least 1 and probably 3 reactors.
Japan and the citizens of the world have been lied too about the magnitude of the failure and the continuing problems of the clean up. The possible effects and dangers, long and short term for the Japanese and the world have not been fully disclosed. The government has already raised the acceptable limit for some kinds of radiation exposures and leaks. This law could make that information going forward secret, that kind of information and every other kind of information regarding Fukushima.
While correlation is not causality the timing of this state secrecy act is sure as hell suspicious as they ready to start removing those rods.
http://rt.com/news/fukushima-fuel-cleanup-operation-522/
from WSJ: “Tepco will remove about 1,300 spent fuel rods and 200 new fuel rods stored in a pool in the reactor building,” (check out the first comment discussing rods v assemblies):
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2013/10/30/fukushima-watch-watchdog-approves-tepcos-plan-to-retrieve-fuel-rods/
And regarding your 9/11 joke: 🙂
Perhaps if Mr. Cameron, Mr. Alexander, Mrs Feinstein (etal) weren’t so busy committing criminal acts and then using the power of the state to shield themselves and their ilk from accountability they wouldn’t need be so concerned about the truth.
Political forces around the world are frustrated because they are unable to put the internet genie back in the bottle. Government leaders have yet to grasp that lies and manipulation can be hidden for a period of time, but not indefinitely. There is simply too much access to too much information by too many people. It should not surprise us that the end of privacy as many of us used to know it has been accompanied by a similar impact on official secrecy. I welcome that part of it because most of what has been exposed over the past few years is stuff that should have been exposed.
<Q U E S T I O N:
What is the difference between a cow and 9/11?
A:
You don’t milk a cow for 12 years…
Jamie Dimon 1, October 30, 2013 at 11:24 am
Cameron is another disciple of the Goebbels method of packaging the message:
It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion..
Joseph Goebbels
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Goebbels learned his best stuff from the American propagandist Edward Bernays:
(Exceptional American Propaganda Inspired NAZI Goebbels). The “Father of Spin” was surprised that “bad guys” could use his techniques.
Bernays was ostensibly surprised because he thought that since he was
exceptionala good guy, any stuff he did was good and only good people would use it.