Yesterday, we discussed the horrific allegations against police from Deming, New Mexico and the medial staff of Gila Regional Medical Center in Silver City, N.M. They (and others including the local prosecutor) allegedly conducted repeated digital anal searches of man stopped for a minor traffic violation and then performed multiple enemas and a colonoscopy in search of drugs. David Eckert has sued for both compensatory and punitive damages. However, I learned today that in addition to the alleged physical abuse, he was sent a $6000 bill from the hospital for the involuntary colonoscopy.
His lawyer says that the hospital sent him the bill, which is perfectly bizarre. They must be treating this as if he had come into the hospital unconscious and required the procedure. Yet, he was objecting to the procedures and the other intrusive measures taken against him. Hopefully, the court will rule against the likely motion al limine filed by the hospital to keep the bill out of the trial. I would love to see the jury that is informed at the end of this alleged nightmare, Eckert received a bill for his mistreatment. As opposing counsel, it is sometimes better to be the one to mention such damaging facts in your opening argument to avoid Plaintiff’s counsel dropping it with greater effect at trial.
What is clear is that, regardless of the outcome at trial, someone needs to be fired for such absurd acts. My assumption is that the police declined the bill for the procedure but it is not clear who made this decision.
Source: US News
davidm wrote:
“For seniors, going to the doctor is the social event of the day. For other people, they don’t need the doctor.”
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Oh, good grief! I’m a senior. I don’t consider going to the doctor the social event of my day. Many older people are vital and keep themselves occupied both physically and mentally. There are also many children and young people who have serious medical issues. I lost a good friend to Ewing’s sarcoma when he was in his mid-thirties. He fought the cancer for six years. The eighteen year old daughter of two other good friends was diagnosed with a cancerous brain tumor when she was two years old. I had students that I taught in elementary school who had juvenile diabetes, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, cystic fibrosis, ulcerative colitis, brittle bone disease, blood disorders, asthma, etc. Need I go on?
“For seniors, going to the doctor is the social event of the day. For other people, they don’t need the doctor.”
DavidM,
The fact that you aren’t kidding puts emphasis on the fact that the sentence above is just plain silly and ludicrous.
dAVIDm:
Lottakatz says: “David: “For seniors, going to the doctor is the social event of the day. For other people, they don’t need the doctor.””
I cannot speak for all seniors but my mother inlaw certainly used the doctor visits as a social event.
In fact I am pretty sure some of her doctors bulked up their medicare billings on her visits.
Bron wrote: “I cannot speak for all seniors but my mother inlaw certainly used the doctor visits as a social event. In fact I am pretty sure some of her doctors bulked up their medicare billings on her visits.”
Bron, do you ever get the feeling that we live on a completely different planet from these people who frequent this blog? Sometimes I wonder if they are just toying with us. A few of them I feel certain are doing that.
My own mother is a very active senior and does not do the social doctor visit thing, but my mother-in-law sure did for many years before she passed away. Medicare made it all possible to have weekly visits to the doctor so the doctor could tell her everything was great, lose a few pounds, yeah, doing good, keep that weight that you have now, by the way, your hair looks nice today. Say hello to everyone for me. She loved to update us about her doctor visits and would be sure to tell us everything the good doctor said. It was very exciting for her, and if we wanted to do something with her on the day she had her doctor, no way, she would decline because she had her doctor’s appointment that day. It would be difficult to say which was more enjoyable for her, the doctor office visit or the hair salon.
Nick: “although I was never a fan of Teddy, we both know he would have abided your plan for his ghoulish vote”
Damn right he would have! 🙂
G’night for some good while, guilty pleasure TV time calls.
lotta, That is commitment. And, although I was never a fan of Teddy, we both know he would have abided your plan for his ghoulish vote, post mortem vote! Hell, it happens every election in Chicago.
“I agree. Some of us may not live to see it (single payer system), but single payer is inevitable, IMO.” (ap)
It might well be in our lifetime. I don’t opine that based on a crystal ball but on the very real fact that long term smart money started getting out of medical health insurance about six months ago. (check your mutuals for some of that) Short term smart money is still in it.
Once the long term smart money leaves it’s guaranteed that changes are in the pipeline. All the political rants aside (which are mainly just cover jobs for Republican state administrations that have left their people stranded … especially rural areas), watch the long term money investments. I think single payer is going to move a lot faster than imagined because the models are well established. There will be a place for medical health insurance companies probably similar to Plan B’s under Medicare but those will be heavily influenced by State agencies … and, of course, … Cadillac policies for the wealthy who need to feel special.
All in all … the heyday is over for medical insurance companies which is why the long term smart money is moving.
(Even Kasich in Ohio saw the light before it was too late and boy are the TPartyers mad at him!)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-07/obama-i-am-sorry-americans-will-lose-their-existing-health-plan-because-obamacare
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-07/guest-post-10-steps-closer-economic-armageddon
@randyjet
about that Ramos/Compean incident, I understand that it I considered part of the job for the American thugs in uniform called “law enforcement officers” to shoot people in the back. And that, unlike in civilized countries, they do not need to fear any repercussions when shooting people in the back. But don’t you think it is a little too much to then complain if in ONE instance the law prevails? Even if it is just to keep up the appearance of the US as a civilized nation of laws (which as we all know it is not)? I don’t think ten years is harsh for shooting someone in the back. If it had been a black guy in the street doing that they would lock him up for the rest of his life.
Svoogle, initially I thought the shooting was wrong, but then I did something stupid and found out the facts. The guy who was shot was a career drug smuggler who fought with the BP agent Compean and got his shotgun away from him. Davila was NOT shot in the back either. He was shot in the rear end after Compean saw him turn towards him with what he thought was a gun. Davila was NOT an illegal just trying to enter the US, but a career criminal who was transporting nearly one million dollars worth of drugs. Even banks which transport legal tender of that amount use armed guards. Thus it is more than reasonable to know that he was most likely armed. After assaulting a BP agent, he becomes an armed felon who is legal to shoot under any law.
I think that Compean made the mistake of not shooting when Davila refused to stop coming at him. Instead, he tried to use the shotgun as a club to defend himself. If he had done that, then there would have been NO case at all, and he would have avoided your accusation of shooting a poor guy in the back. A shotgun blast to the chest would have been more to your liking I suppose. The fact is that both agents thought that they had missed hitting the crook since he got up and kept on running like nothing had happened and ran across the Rio Grande, got into a car on the Mexican side and drove off. The prosecution was absurd and outrageous with the limits placed on the defense at trial. Davila was granted a border pass with unlimited entrance to the US which he promptly used to bring MORE drugs into the US on a US attorney’s pass. He was arrested once again in El Paso, and the fact of his second arrest was barred from being allowed in court.
I loved Sen Feinstein of the Judiciary Committee who blasted the Bush administrations US attorney for his incompetence, and bias in misusing the law to get a conviction. That part of their conviction was overturned by a lower court. Bush did a somewhat decent thing in commuting their sentence, when he should have granted them a full pardon.
It is increasingly apparent that law schools, medical schools and police academies do not teach judgment.
Nick, I know that if I was the majority leader of the Senate I would have wheeled Sen. Ted Kennedy’s dead body onto the floor and had someone raise his putrefying hand to vote until I could no longer get away with it. The country would have been much better off now if there had actually been a Democratic majority in the House and Senate. As it stands we have the most obstructionist House and Senate in US history. Five years of non-action and counting. Except for taking food out of the mouths of hungry children. There is that.
lottakatz wrote: “Nick, I know that if I was the majority leader of the Senate I would have wheeled Sen. Ted Kennedy’s dead body onto the floor and had someone raise his putrefying hand to vote until I could no longer get away with it.”
Yikes, you just confirmed every Republicans worst nightmare about how the Democrats will commit voter fraud if they can get away with it.
David: “For seniors, going to the doctor is the social event of the day. For other people, they don’t need the doctor.”
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I’m a old fart. The better half is an old fart. Going to the doctor is a real pain. I see a lot old old farts at the doctors office, way more than younger people. They are like the better half and I, they spent too many week-ends sitting as close as possible to the stage during music concerts and are hearing impaired so they talk loud. They are ill with age and disease and many are dying by degrees (or have actual shelf-life dates) and from what I hear from them and the doctor (he talks loud to them and if you sit in an exam room you get to hear at least two other patients discussions with the doctor). If their visit to the doctor is the event of the day it’s because they are no longer capable of getting out of the house because one of them requires constant assistance and care.
Going to the doctors office breaks my heart.
Your views and opinions and truths are so diametrically opposed to objective reality it is simply unbelievable to me that you aren’t operating from a script. Unless you are an member of a religion (or cult) that keeps a large family and a small, insular community and need not worry about someone to care for you in your old age or intervening difficulty. You say things that veer into that direction. That’s actually cool. For you. If that’s the way you insulate yourself from the concerns and lives of the persons you so casually dismiss across the social spectrum.
You have no idea what most peoples lives are like.
lottakatz wrote: “You have no idea what most peoples lives are like.”
That’s what most Democrats say about Republicans, and many Republicans says the same thing about Democrats. So here we are, polarized, neither side understanding how the other side can view the world in such a different way.
“Your views and opinions and truths are so diametrically opposed to objective reality it is simply unbelievable to me that you aren’t operating from a script.”
LK,
The more DavidM comments the more I believe it is a script coming from the Tea Party playbook. It is almost like David is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Koch boys. Perhaps a worshipful Courtier as well. Nevertheless, DavidM should be complemented because unlike some others he does try to press his opinions with sources and always maintains a chipper civility, that should count for something.
It is red meat, Julia. But, it’s compounded by the fact that it was done not only in a mean spirit, but also to sell magazines. Magazines are dying and this is how they are choosing out to go out..classless.
lotta, Thanks for the info. As YOU KNOW, the Dems were in control and for a variety of reasons, few if any of them being noble, Obamacare is what they were able to pass. The problems extend way beyond the website. However, the website is a metaphor. We disagree on this subject, but intellectual honesty is always appreciated and it this case shines brightly.
“Americans from voting”
I hate autocorrect.
The Dems had a 60 seat caucus from Sept 10 of 2009 until Feb 25 of 2010.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-the-democrats-ever-really-have-60-votes-in-the-senate-and-for-how-long/
David: “Catastrophic insurance” is worthless. People shouldn’t be able to buy it and then hospitals and taxpayers still get stuck with the bill.
Annie: I think this is the sixth or seventh different career I’ve hear Mr. Spinelli mention. It seems he has trouble fitting in everywhere.
Juliet N wote: ““Catastrophic insurance” is worthless. People shouldn’t be able to buy it and then hospitals and taxpayers still get stuck with the bill.”
You are being a bit selfish with this statement. It might be worthless to you, but not to everybody or it never would have existed. A plan which allows only three hospital visits a year and covers 100% costs with no deductible is a good plan to some people. Obamacare says nope, your plan needs to cover maternity care, blah, blah, blah. I delivered five children, never needed health insurance. Some people run to the doctor every week. For seniors, going to the doctor is the social event of the day. For other people, they don’t need the doctor.
Spinelli just cannot help himself I see.
You said “House Senate and Presidency” and then you responded to my answer. But you couldn’t leave it, you had to try and be the smartest person. I was a high school history teacher. Now, drop the childish horseshit, please.
“But you couldn’t leave it, you had to try and be the smartest person. I was a high school history teacher. Now, drop the childish horseshit, please.”
When it comes to you Nick she is the smarter person and you can’t stand that can you? The only childish thing around here is you and your need to inflate your ego with scatology. Being a high school history teacher wins you no points when all you do is merely bray your opinions and then get angry when people fairly disagree with them.
Remember Nick, Professor Turley asked you to be civil and you promised you would be. The sentence above was not civil and you seem again to be breaking your promise. Tsk. Tsk. The angry man who just can’t stand a female opposing him….I wonder why?
Please!
The three BRANCHES of the government are the Congress, the Executive and the Judicial. Not the House, the Senate and the Presidency.